1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkshin. I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshin, And Dad, 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: I know you're a highly anticipating big meeting today at 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: your house with the plumber. 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Right yeah, and minute, the bathroom next door to where 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: I am sitting right now is broken. The toilet is broken. 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: And since I'm a baseball writer and we have no 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 2: chance of doing anything with our hands, no baseball writer 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: knows how to fix a toilet, I had to call 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 2: a plumber. And uh, Fortunately, we're going to get this 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: done today and I'm going to feel really good about that. 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: But I'm not feeling really good about something else. Jeff, 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: we made it. We made it. We had a terrible 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: mistake the other day. So, Jeff, the All Actor Baseball team. 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: First off, who did we leave off the All Actor 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: Baseball team. 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: I'm talking about Jason Alexander. 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: Yes, the suburb of George is ruined. Jeff. We built 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: an entire Seinfeld around baseball players' names, and then when 20 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: it came actors who share baseball player names, we forgot 21 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 2: Jason Alexander. How do we do that? 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: You know, Dad, I came to your defense and since 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: we did, in fact, no, no do a Seinfeld team, 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: I think using him twice. I tried to come to 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: your defense with one of our family members. 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 2: I saw that you did, and I appreciated it, Jeff, 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: but we still should have had Jason Alexander on there. 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: But that's not the worst part. Okay, So Jeremy sapp, 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: who's like the best investigative reporter we have, the best 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: journalist we have at ESPN. One of my dear friends, 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: he wrote to me last night. Loved the All Actor team, 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: he said, but you left off George Burns. George Burns, Jeff, YEA. 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: The problem there is I know there were two George Burns's. 34 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: One was the first baseman in the early nineteen hundreds 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: and his career average was three oh seven. 36 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: I know who he is. 37 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: And then there was another George Burns nineteen eleven to 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty five, an outfielder who led the league in runs, 39 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: scored like five times. These guys aren't just obscure players, 40 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: they are significant players. And I just rushed through the 41 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: All Actor team and I know George Burns, and I 42 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: forgot to put him on there. And Jeremy reminded me 43 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: Jeremy also told me, and this is how smart he is. 44 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: He is wicked smart. He said, George Burns, the actor, 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: his real name is Nathan Bernbaum, who knew. I didn't 46 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: know that, and he changed his name, his stage name 47 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: to George Burns because of these two baseball players. Now, yes, 48 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: according to Jeremy, I missed that entire story. Not only 49 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: did I not have a George Burns on the All 50 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: Actor team, but Jeremy predictably told me something that I 51 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: didn't know. Because he is so smart about so many 52 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: different things. 53 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: You know, it makes me feel pretty cool that Jeremy 54 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: Shapp is listening to our podcast and he is now 55 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: a member of the family. I didn't realize he was 56 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: a member of the faan. 57 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, well, Jeremy listens because Jeremy is Jeremy is everywhere. 58 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: So as always, we learned something from Jeremy Shapp. And 59 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: I've told you that his dad, Dick shap is maybe 60 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: the greatest interviewer of all time sports at least, and 61 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: one of the great sports writers who became one of 62 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: the great TV personalities. There wasn't anything Dick Shapp couldn't do. 63 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: So he used to say, you know, instead of collecting autographs. 64 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: He says, I collect people. That's what he said. So, 65 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: what he used to do as a sports writer and 66 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: a TV personality in New York, he occasionally would get 67 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: some sports writers together and some famous athletes entertainers together 68 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: and they would all just go out to eat and 69 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: sit around and talk. So one night he's got Muhammad 70 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: Ali with him and a bunch of sports writers and 71 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: Tom Sever And this is in the heart of Tom 72 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: Sever's career. I collect people, he said, So Muhammad Ali, 73 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: who was another really really smart guy but apparently not 74 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: the biggest baseball fan. About three quarters of the way 75 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: through dinner, he leans over to Tom Sever and says, 76 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: which newspaper do you work for? No, he thought he 77 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: was a writer, not the toast of New York, the 78 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: best pitcher the Mets have ever had, the greatest met 79 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 2: of all time? 80 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 3: What three times twelve time All Stars? 81 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,119 Speaker 2: What newspaper do you work for? And we're not making 82 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: fun of Muhammad Ali because he's one of the all 83 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: time great people. Ever, he just didn't know who Tom 84 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: Sever was. And Tom Sever thought that was the funniest 85 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: thing in the whole world. This is what well, this 86 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: is what Dick shapp brings to the table I collect people. 87 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: Well, it must have been actually refreshing for Tom sever 88 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: because he could never go into anywhere in New York 89 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: without being recognized. 90 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: So it might have been nice for him to be 91 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 3: just another guy. 92 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: I think he did. I think you appreciated it. So right, Jeff, 93 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: show me your notebook and let's discuss, because I got 94 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: you a notebook right there. It is the mead three 95 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: subject college ruled right, yep, yep, me three subjects. 96 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: And you know it's a little stressful, Dad, because well 97 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: this was my prior one that I filled up right, okay, 98 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: my wife's former one for those who aren't watching on YouTube. 99 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: It's basically like a water collective cover. 100 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: And then she bought me another one. She said, I'll 101 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: handle it. I'll get you one. 102 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: She's a former teacher. She bought me a five subject notebook. 103 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: Now this thing is bigger than a laptop. R I mean, 104 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: it is huge, and I can't go anywhere with it. 105 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: And so you I kind of complained about it to 106 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: you and you said, I got I got a guy. 107 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,119 Speaker 1: Let me get you the mead so I don't write 108 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: on the backs because you told Todd Frazier that that 109 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: was the rule, even though I'm a front and back guy. 110 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: But I Jeff, those are my notebooks. You go by 111 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: my rules. You never write on the back unless you're 112 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: interviewing somebody and you have to go on the back 113 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: because you have to scribble the interview or whatever. But 114 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: I never write on the back because I need that fresh, white, 115 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: clear paper when I turned the page. I think better 116 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: when there's not scribbling all over the place. That makes sense, 117 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 2: absolutely get it. 118 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: And I take notes during our podcast in order. I 119 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: always write down just for a little inside baseball, no 120 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: pun intended clips, so things I want to put on 121 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: our social media because if you don't follow us already 122 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: at Great Game or what I mean, obviously you're listening 123 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: every week, multiple times a week, and we appreciate that. 124 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: But you can also see great video highlights and clips 125 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: that I put together after the show at Great Game 126 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: or what on Instagram, TikTok and Facebook. But I also 127 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: put edits right this is I have a line for edits, 128 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: so I don't have to listen back like super intensely. 129 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: I can just speed ahead to the edits. 130 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: I know I need to make Like Dad asked Jeff again, 131 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: Who are the only players to never edit out the 132 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: long pauses that I take to try to figure it out? 133 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: Right? All right, just get it. 134 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: I never edit those out. No more quizzes Today, I 135 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: can't do it. I've been up since four o'clock this morning. 136 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: My daughter came into our bedroom at one o'clock this morning. Dad, 137 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: I got this picture from my wife while I was 138 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: at work, from my wife, Emily. She sent me this photo. 139 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 1: This is McKinley and our dog Ranger. 140 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: There you go in our bed. 141 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: They look like an though. They look like a fat 142 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: old married couples. 143 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so bad on the pillows, on 144 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: our pillows. 145 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: Right. Well, yeah, I'm glad you got the notebook. I've 146 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: been using the same notebook for well over twenty years. 147 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: It just feels right in my hand, and I'll never forget. 148 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: I told you what Earl Weaver said to me the 149 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: first time I ever met him in nineteen eighty. He 150 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: f bomb me right in front of Dan Shaughnessy, which 151 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: is not the point of this story. But I'm carrying 152 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: around a giant legal pad to write down my notes with, 153 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: and Earle looks at me, very very early on and says, 154 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: what are you doing. Why don't you get one of 155 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 2: those little reporters notebooks that you can put in your pocket. 156 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: You got to learn how to do this job. So 157 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm getting lectured from Earl Weaver on the proper notebook 158 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: that I should use, And he was right. And I 159 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: used to keep a small notebook in my back pocket 160 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: because it was easier to work that way, but now 161 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: I'm so used to having one that is a bigger 162 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: notebook where I can write down more things, don't have 163 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: to write on the back. So it's really important to 164 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: me that I do it this way. 165 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: And you gifted one to Todd Frasier and he was 166 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: genuinely emotional, I mean, well really emotional. 167 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: Well it was really fun on the air last year 168 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: when Todd asked me, like, what do you do with 169 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: that notebook because he was intrigued by how I did 170 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: my job at the Little Leak World Series, so on 171 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: the air, instead of him showing everyone how to keep 172 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: your hands inside the ball or cut second base on 173 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: going from first to third, he was he wanted to 174 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: know how I use my notebook, and I explained, you know, 175 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: you just take it one page at a time, stay 176 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: within yourself, maybe one word at a time, and never 177 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: write on the back and that type of thing. So 178 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: he got a big kick that. The next day, there 179 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: he is walking around interviewing coaches with his notebook in 180 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: his hand. It was so funny and it was so 181 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: and it was flattering that he actually cared about being 182 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: really good at this, which he is, of course, but 183 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: carrying a notebook notebook was important to him. 184 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: All right, Dad, let's jump into the takeaway. 185 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: So let's open up your notebook, so to speak, yes, 186 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: and see what's been going on in Major League baseball. 187 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: Jeff, when I used to host the Seamhead Show for 188 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: three years on ESPN, I had my own show with 189 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 2: just sports writers on at the Seamhead edition, we had 190 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: something called empty the Notebook, where Jason Stark, Buster Olney, 191 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: whoever else was on with this would just empty the notebook. 192 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna empty mind. Turk Schooble seventh start 193 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 2: this year, no walks and at least ten strikeouts. That 194 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: ties the major league record held by Garrett Cole for 195 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: most starts in a season with no walks and at 196 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: least ten strikeouts. That's how good Schooble has been, and 197 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: again it shows over powering stuff and incredible command to 198 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: not log anyone and strike out ten in one game. 199 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: Number fifty of course for cal Raley, so he's you know, now, 200 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: the only switch hitters who have ever hit fifty homers 201 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 2: in a season are Mickey Mantle fifty four, Mickey Mantle 202 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: fifty two, and now cal Raley fifty. And let's keep 203 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 2: in mind, Jeff Hank Airon never hit fifty, not a criticism. 204 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: Frank Robinson never hit fifty. Albert pool Holes never hit fifty. 205 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: It's hard to hit fifty home runs. And Pools and 206 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: Hank Aaron both of course hit over seven hundred homers 207 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: without fifty in any season. 208 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: Dad seven hundred and three homers for Albert pooh Hooles 209 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: and never hit fifty homers in a year. 210 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: That's shocking to me. 211 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: Right, And well, Hank Aaron hit seven to fifty five 212 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: and never hit fifty. But it just shows you how 213 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: great these guys were that every year if they didn't 214 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: hit fifty, they had forty eight, forty two, forty four. 215 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: They were great. And let's see how good your memory is, Jeff. 216 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: You'll never get these But so, Hank Aaron, most home 217 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: runs of anyone, never to hit fifty? Who hit the 218 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: most career homers of anyone, never to hit forty? Answer? 219 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:29,119 Speaker 2: Eddie Murray five hundred homers, never hit forty. Al Kayline 220 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: hit the most homers three ninety nine without ever hitting thirty. 221 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 2: And if you get this one, Jeff, and I told 222 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: it you, I'll give you a thousand bucks. I will 223 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: give my own son a thousand bucks. You can't look 224 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: it up. Most homers without ever hitting twenty in a season, 225 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: Sky hit. 226 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: I believe you remember this. You're gonna remember this because 227 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 3: we did talk about it. 228 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: Yes, two hundred and fifteen homers and never hit I 229 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: think it's two fifteen, and never hit twenty in a season, 230 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: which means a lot of fifteen's. Eighteen nineteen Ron Fairley 231 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: hit two hundred. 232 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: Clearly even with that clue didn't remember that, would have 233 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: never gotten that. 234 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: Wow. 235 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm gonna write it down. 236 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ron fairly, Okay, Clayton Kershaw just quick note five 237 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: and oh one point eight eight e ra in August, Jeff, 238 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: all right, we weren't even sure if he was gonna 239 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: pitch this year. We said, oh, this is his last 240 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: All Star Game for sure, really maybe not five and 241 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 2: oh one point eight eight. And the Dodgers are starting 242 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: to gain some steam now and one of their best 243 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: pitchers is Clayton Kershaw, the best pitcher of this generation. 244 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: Better than Max Suers are better than Justin Burlander, and 245 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: those guys are great their first ballot Hall of Famers, 246 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: but they're not as good as Clayton Kershaw. A couple others, 247 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: Jeff Bryce Terrang, I've told you about him. Of the Brewers, 248 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: Brewers are really good. Bryce Terrang is an elite defensive 249 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: second baseman, the best defensive second basement in the game. 250 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: I love had a long chat with him about his preparation, 251 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: what he does before every game, ground balls left right, 252 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 2: coming into his backhand, all that stuff. But the point 253 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: is he hit nine homers, and he's hit nine homers 254 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: in August. He had six this season before he got 255 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: to August. So now he's an elite defender who seems 256 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 2: to now hit for power, so that is pretty good. 257 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: And last one, Jeff Ron Washington, the manager of the 258 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Angels, who is no longer managing Ray Montgomery, 259 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: is because Ron Washington underwent quadruple bypass surgery. But he 260 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: showed up at the ballpark the other day. He actually 261 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: put a uniform on, and it was so good to 262 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: see Wash back in it. He wasn't working, he wasn't 263 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: hitting fungos. He was taking it easy because he knows 264 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: this is a serious issue. He's going to have to 265 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: rehab until December. He wants to manage again. Let's hope 266 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: for his sake that he can. But Wash is one 267 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: of my favorite people that I've ever met in the game. 268 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: And if you'll never remember this, what does he have 269 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: in common with cal Ripkin? And not that they just 270 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: played shortstop, the same position and they were on the 271 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: same team. Do you remember because I told this story 272 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: once before. Nineteen eighty seven, cal Ripkin's consecutive inning streak 273 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: eighty two hundred and sixty four came to an end 274 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: one night in Toronto when the Orioles lost eighteen to 275 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: three September fourteenth, nineteen eighty seven. And that was the 276 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: night that the Blue Jays hit ten homers, still a 277 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: major league record. So they finally took cal Ripkin out 278 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: of a game. His dad took him out of the game, grudgingly, hesitantly, 279 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: didn't want to do it, but was told by the 280 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: general manager, take your son out. We got to get 281 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: this over with. This isn't solved, this isn't serving any purpose. 282 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: But the guy who replaced cal Ripkin at shortstop that 283 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: night in Toronto I was there, was Ron Washington. 284 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: Wow, that's crazy. 285 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: It's pretty cool, huh. 286 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: And well, I mean the other fun fact is Ryan 287 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: Minor was the manager of the Frederick Keyes when I 288 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: was an intern there, and he was the one who 289 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: replaced Cal Ripken Junior at third base, ending the consecutive 290 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: games street right, So at. 291 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: Two thousand, six hundred and thirty two, Jeff, And remember 292 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: cal Ripkin wasn't injured, he wasn't ill. He just decided 293 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: to change the subject and he didn't tell anybody that 294 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: he wasn't going to play. And on Sunday Night Baseball, 295 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes before the game started, a new lineup 296 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: came out and Ryan Minor was in there, not cal Ripkin. 297 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: And you know what he did for that game, Jeff, 298 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: He just kind of went all over the stadium, spent 299 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: some time in the bullpen just to see what it's 300 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: like to not play in a game. And you know, 301 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: sitting on the bench, and he did enjoy it because, 302 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: as he said, I'm not a spectator, I'm here to play. 303 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 2: But yes, so that's the cal Ripkens story in several 304 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: different forms. 305 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 3: Let's jump into the quirk Jins. 306 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: What do you have, Jeff? You know how much I've 307 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: loved this. Five RBIs out of the number nine spot. Okay, well, 308 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: Luis Trenzo the Mets did it the other day. So 309 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: that's the twelfth time this year. Now you know the 310 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: status stilted, Jeff, because for years pitchers batted ninth in 311 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: the National League. So really, so it is a major 312 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: league record. We had eight of them last year, eight 313 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: the year before, but this year we have twelve different 314 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: number nine hitters have driven in five or more runs 315 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: of the game. And the kicker there, Jeff, this is 316 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: the interesting part. The number five hitters in the game 317 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 2: this year have a total of ten five RBI games. 318 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 2: So the nine spot has produced more five RBI games 319 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 2: than the number five spot, which is a position of power. 320 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: Do you find that surprising interesting? 321 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean you're right to say that, you know, looking 322 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: back on history, the number nine spot we can't compare, 323 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: but number five absolutely should be a better, stronger, hitter 324 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: in general. 325 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: Right, So that is fascinating, right, but it just proves. 326 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: Again, Jeff, how there is thunder in so many of 327 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: these lineups. Of course, that thunder doesn't matter. If a 328 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 2: great pitcher locates, he's going to strike you out. He's 329 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: going to get you out, and he's gonna shut you out. 330 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: That's just the way it works. However, you miss location 331 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: with today's hitters, and one through nine in the order 332 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 2: can take you deep, which this statistic proves twelve different 333 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: guys or twelve not number nine hitters have had a 334 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: five RBI game this year. Speaking to which Alex Jackson 335 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: of this is an old story, but we're just going 336 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: to follow up on it. Alex Jackson, catcher for the Orioles, 337 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: came to the Orioles, and the first ten hits he 338 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 2: got from July tenth to August the tenth, we're all 339 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: extra base hits, all extra base hins, so no one's 340 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: ever joined a new team. The first ten hits he 341 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: got were all extra base hits, nobody. And now the 342 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 2: point is he then he followed that up with two hits, 343 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: both singles, and then Tuesday night he got two hits, 344 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: both singles. So now he can't hit an extra base hit, 345 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: but he had ten straight extra base hits and now 346 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: he's got four straight singles. All right, Jeff, I found 347 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: this interesting. The Pirates scored five runs in the top 348 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: of the first inning on Tuesday, the second time this 349 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: month that they've scored five runs in the top of 350 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: the first I didn't think there that was that big 351 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: of an accomplishment. But they did it once nine from 352 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty to twenty twenty four total total one time 353 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: and twice they did it in August. Is that is 354 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: five nothing in the top of the first That hard 355 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: to achieve. 356 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: Clearly for the Pirates. It was about four years. 357 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was weird. I was surprised to 358 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 2: see that. And last thing, Jeff, Tyler Kinley of the 359 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 2: Braves and Tyler Zuber of the Marlins were pictures of 360 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: record on Tuesday night. Now, Tyler is a very common name. 361 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: I looked up. We got close to fifty pitchers in 362 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: Major League history named Tyler. But just to show you 363 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: how names change, and you know, the way people what 364 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: people name their children, Tyler Green was the first pitcher 365 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: in the major leagues to go with the first name 366 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 2: Tyler and he came along in nineteen ninety three. So 367 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: there's never been a pitcher with a first name Tyler 368 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: in the big leagues until Tyler Green came along in 369 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three. And now we have almost fifty different 370 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: pictures with the name Tyler Well. 371 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: And Tyler Kinley. Kinley is what my daughter McKinley calls herself, right, 372 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 3: So I didn't know if you were going. 373 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: To go down a granddaughter route or if it was 374 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: a Tyler versus Tyler, But yes, if you ask her, 375 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: she'll say Kinlee. 376 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 3: Kirkchin love time. Every time. 377 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 2: I love it. That's great, all. 378 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: Right, dad, Well, coming up next, we're gonna do on 379 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: this state in Baseball history. We're also going to find 380 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: out who the best players to wear forty and forty one. 381 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: We've got a team Tim and a best of all Tim. 382 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: It's all coming up next on is this a great 383 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: game or what? Welcome back to Is this a great 384 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: game or what? And Dad, before we jump into on 385 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: this state in Baseball history, yesterday we had ad Nan 386 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: Verk on the podcast right and he just texted me 387 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: right now. 388 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: He didn't send any texts. You just sent a. 389 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: Photo and it's just a photo of his Google search 390 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: Lilya Forever. Oh my god, what is the movie he 391 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: referenced in our podcast that nobody has seen. 392 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: He just texted me out of nowhere. 393 00:21:59,160 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: Dad. 394 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: That's so classic ad Man, just popping up from nowhere 395 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: with some ridiculous observation. So it's just that's why he 396 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: is just so funny. We had so much fun with 397 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: him on the area yesterday. We laugh and we learned, Jeff, 398 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: and we learned all about movies and directors and actors 399 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: and baseball from ad nan Burg. It was just great. 400 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: He was so great. 401 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: So make sure and again another note, his new book, Cinephile, 402 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: his first book newly published, is out right now get 403 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: it wherever books are sold. So fantastic, his stories, his 404 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: storytelling is incredible. So thanks again to add Nan Urk 405 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: for joining us. All right, Dad on the state and 406 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: baseball history. 407 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: What do you have right? 408 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: So we have just have a couple birthdays. Born in 409 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: nineteen forty three on this date, Lou Panelo Lou Panello 410 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: was a lifetime two ninety one hitter Rookie of the 411 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: Year seventeen hundred and five hits and won eighteen hundred 412 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: and thirty five games as a manager, including a World 413 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: Series for the nineteen ninety Since that he reads, I 414 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: think he's a Hall of Famer. He's missed a couple 415 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: times really close. The Hall of Fame will be a 416 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: better place when Lou Panella gets in. I'll never forget 417 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: you have years ago. Steve Buckley, my dear friend, and 418 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 2: Jim Caple, the late Jim Caple, were among those that 419 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: used to organize baseball games played at major league stadiums, 420 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: and the Yankees always had a game that they would 421 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: play among the media on the day of a game. 422 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 2: So Lou Panella and they're playing at like noon for 423 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: a seven o'clock game, so they're going to be done 424 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: by the time the big league show up. Lou Panella 425 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: shows up early and he walks out of the field 426 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 2: because he doesn't know they're playing. And one of the pitchers, 427 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: you know, one of the writer pitchers, was pretty darn good. 428 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: So Panella just kind of looks at and says, what 429 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: are you guys doing, And they said, well, we're playing 430 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: the media games. So Panella gets in the box in 431 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: his street clothes, and you know, he hasn't played in 432 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: ten I don't know. I want to say, twenty years, ten, 433 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 2: twenty years, whatever was, he was not in baseball shape. 434 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: The first pitch comes in and hits him in the shoulder, 435 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: and he doesn't even flinch. And then the next pitch 436 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: comes in and he bounces it into the left field 437 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 2: seats on one hot. So here lou Panella, who probably 438 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: hadn't swung a bat in I'm guessing fifteen years. Let's 439 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: say gets hit by a pitch and then swings and 440 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: bounces one into the left field seats at Yankee Stadium 441 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: for an automatic double in street clothes. That's who lou 442 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: Panella is. The lesson there, Jeff, is stay in your lane. Okay, 443 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: don't think that just because you're a writer who covers 444 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 2: the game and you're playing a Yankee stadium that you 445 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: have anything to do anything in common with lou Panella. Agreed, 446 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: very much. 447 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: Agreed. 448 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: Reminds me of the days of you in the celebrity 449 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: softball game Dad at Washington at National's Park, right, good 450 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: times you had had you had a knock there, didn't 451 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: you look? 452 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 2: I was playing. I told you that story, Jeff. The 453 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: highlight of that for me was I was on second 454 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: base and Hall of Famer Andre Dawson did a line 455 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: drive single to left field. I scored from second. I 456 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: was driven in in the celebrity softball game by Andre Dawson. 457 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 2: How cool is that? 458 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't see that on your resume, but now it's 459 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: going on your gravestone. 460 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: Let me let write. 461 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: Right now, Jamie Fox that day and who did I 462 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 2: tell you got the biggest ovation of anyone on both teams? 463 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 3: Do you remember Nay the science guy? 464 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 2: Science guy. I always always loved him. Okay, Jeff, And 465 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: one more birthday we have Carlos Quinton. Carlos Quinton was 466 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 2: a good Major league player, really tough guy. I remember 467 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: doing a story on him once and Paul Konerko said 468 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: that there's all this perfume that Carlos Quinton used to 469 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: have in his locker and put on because he had 470 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: this spe a. He called it an aura. He needed 471 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: that in order to be a good player. But his 472 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: last name, Jeff, is q U E N T I N. 473 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: So what this is going to be the team Tim 474 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: for today? But instead of having a position player, a 475 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: player at each of the nine positions, which is the 476 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: team Tim? Which I screwed up this week because I 477 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: forgot George Burns and Jason Alexander. So it's going to 478 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: be a slightly different list. So what is so significant 479 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: about Carlos Quinton's name and what lists. 480 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: All of the vowels in his name? 481 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: Uh? 482 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: Boy, yes, that is correct, Jeff. And that's not the 483 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: answer to the question. 484 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: E I owe you, And you just said it's it's 485 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: with an I N. So I thought that was making 486 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: the connection. 487 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: You got it right. I didn't even notice that. 488 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 3: But what are you gonna do that with a team? Tim? 489 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: Yet? Yeah? 490 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 3: I thought that's what we were getting into. 491 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: No, I haven't approached that one yet. I'm gonna have 492 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: to call Jeremy Shaff for help on that. No, it's not. 493 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: I mean you got him in the outfield. You could 494 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: get Omarvis Scallot short, right, There's plenty of players us 495 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: that could do it, right. 496 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to work on that. So all right, 497 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: So you still haven't gotten the answer, right, Jeff. What 498 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: does Carlos Quinton have to do as far as a 499 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: list go, in this case, a list of twenty six 500 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: Big clue Jeff, twenty six names six q oh, last 501 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: name q yes, most home runs for anyone in the 502 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: last name name Q. Okay, So I'm going to rifle 503 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: through these because this is the team tim for this week. 504 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: A of course, Hank, Aaron B, Barry Bonds three, Miguel Cabrera, D, 505 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: Carlos Delgado, E. Edwin and Carnacion F Jimmy Fox, G Ken, 506 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: Griffy Junior H. I love this. There's a tie for 507 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: h and both guys have the same last name, and 508 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: they both hit three, three hundred and eighty two homers. 509 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 2: I'll give you one thousand dollars if you can name 510 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: both guys. I'm gonna the last name is Howard. 511 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: Two of them cal Frank Howard of course, and and 512 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: oh gosh, Ryan Howard, Ryan Howard, all. 513 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: Right, Jeff. I hate putting people on the spot like 514 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 2: I hate getting put on the spot like that. Howard, Yeah, 515 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: Brian Howard our Age, Raoul labanyas is I Rabaul is, 516 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 2: by the way, more homers after turning forty than he 517 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: did in his twenties. Think about that for a second. 518 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: Reggie Jackson, J K, Carmen, Harmon, Killerbrew L, Carlos, Lee Lee, M, 519 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: Willie Mays, N. Greg Nettles, O, David or Tz P 520 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: Albert Poohols, Q Carlos, Quinton r Babe ruth S, Sammy Sosa, T, 521 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: Jim Tomey You and this one has changed multiple times 522 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: justin Upton most of the letter you V. Joey Vado 523 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: ended his career with one more homer than Greg Vaughan. 524 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: He passed him like late in his final year to 525 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: have the most homers with the letter V T. I 526 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: mean W is Ted Williams. There is no X, No 527 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: one the last name X has ever played in the 528 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: major leagues. Why is Carly Streemsky. And let's see if 529 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: you can remember Zee because we had him on the 530 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: podcast last year Dunkin of Basketball. 531 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: Ryan Zimmerman, Washington National. 532 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: All right, so that's the list, Jeff, of all the 533 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 2: all time home run hitters for each letter of the alphabet. 534 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: Now, remind me, didn't you corner one of the all 535 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: time home run hitters for the alphabet in the bathroom 536 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: at a playoff game. 537 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 2: No, that was Nelson Cruz, who's he was at one point, 538 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: I believe, but then Miguel Cabrera passed. Yes, I saw 539 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: Nelson Cruise in the bathroom in between innings of a 540 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: playoff game at Yankee Stadium. We had just watched Aaron 541 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: Judge hit a home run. They changed pictures and up 542 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: comes to Carlos Stanton. All right, so I get back 543 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: from the bathroom. Commercial breaks over, and I just look 544 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: at Eduardo Perez and Carl Ravags who were doing the 545 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: game with me, and I said, hey, I saw Nelson 546 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: Cruz in the bathroom and that's all I said. And 547 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: Ravi said, well, what does that mean? 548 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: What do you try? 549 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: And I said, look, Aaron Judge just hit a home run. John, 550 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: Carlos Stanton is up at four hundred and fifty homers 551 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: are is standing in the bathroom, And I just thought 552 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: you could connect the Dodge there. And Revey looked at 553 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: me and said, nobody could have connected the Dodgs with 554 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: those three clues. Stop it. 555 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: And I think it's pretty it's pretty crazy that in 556 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: that bathroom there was a combined four hundred and sixty 557 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: four home runs peeing at the same time, Right, you 558 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: and hn combined four sixty four Nelson Cruz four hundred 559 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: and sixty four. 560 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: Tim Kirkson zero of course. 561 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, dad, Well, speaking of great players, this 562 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: has been one of the most fun things we've done 563 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: on the show. From Ozzie to Oral. Okay, so these 564 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: are the best players to wear each number from one 565 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: to fifty five, right from one to fifty five, from 566 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: Ozzie Smith to Oral Herscheiser and we are already on 567 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: forty Dad, So who is the best player to wear 568 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: number four? 569 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: This was hard because Rick Sutcliffe was the leader in 570 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: the clubhouse and I just have to say that Bartolo 571 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: Cologne passed him. Barton Colonne won two hundred and forty 572 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: seven games. He he won a cy young Zieri was 573 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: four point one two a little bit. Elevated one of 574 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: the great control pitchers ever. And you remember how heavy 575 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: set Bartolo Cologne was, Jeff. He was unbelievably strong and 576 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: he could take I don't think I can describe this properly. 577 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: You know how you curl like thirty five pound like this? 578 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: You know when you do a curl. He could do 579 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: it backwards like this, so his hands were facing the 580 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 2: other way. Maybe a lot of people can do that, 581 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: I don't think. So it just shows you how strong 582 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: Bartolo Colonne was is. And I also saw him do 583 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: the splits ones. You know how heavy said he is, 584 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: Bartolo Cologne was so flexible. Yes, I saw him do 585 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: the splits and he hit one of the most famous 586 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: home runs in Major League history. Do you remember it, Jeff, Yeah. 587 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: I see it on highlights on my Instagram all the time. 588 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: Right. He hit a home run at age forty three 589 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: for the Mets off James Shields of the Padres. So 590 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: he became the oldest player forty three to hit his 591 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: first major league home run. So Gary Cohne, the great 592 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 2: broadcaster for the Mets, TV broadcaster for the Mets, goes 593 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: absolutely crazy and says, this is one of the greatest 594 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: home runs in the history of baseball, and who could 595 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: argue with him? So Kevin Ploeki, catcher, was on base 596 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: for the Bartolo Cologne Homers. So Ploeki goes to gets 597 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: the home plate and gives Cologne, who's laughing uproariously, this 598 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: tremendous hug at home plate. Then they go into the 599 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: dugout and there's nobody in the dugout. Nobody, you know, 600 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: the whole style of treatment all that. So Ploeki told me. 601 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: He looks around and he said, what am I supposed 602 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 2: to do? Now it's just me and Bartolo? Am I 603 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: supposed to go hug him again? And then out of 604 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: the Alley out of the you know, the the runway 605 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: came players and they all gave Bartolo Cologne a great hug. 606 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: So Jeff, when we got rid of the pitcher batting 607 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: in the major leagues at these because we have the 608 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: full time DH in both leagues, we'll never have a 609 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 2: Bartolo Cologne story like that again. And I find I 610 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 2: still find that a little bit sad. Am, I am 611 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: I missing the point here. 612 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: Now, And I mean, we talk about some great stats 613 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: that happened, pictures batting and whatnot. It's just sad that 614 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: now those will never happen again. That's a thing of 615 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: the past in our game, at least for now. I'm 616 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: not saying it's gone forever, but at least for now, 617 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: this is the way the game is going. 618 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's number forty That was hard number. That 619 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: was difficult number. Let's see number. 620 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 3: Number forty one. 621 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: This was easy. Tom sever, who we referenced earlier in 622 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 2: the show. What newspaper do you work for? Tom Severs 623 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 2: greatest met ever. I don't believe there's a close second. 624 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 2: He's one of the fifteen greatest pictures of all time. 625 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 2: And you might even go lower with that. Let's see 626 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: how good your memory is, Jeff boy I challenge you 627 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 2: a lot on this podcast all the time. What is 628 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 2: Tom Seavers struck out nineteen batters in one game? What 629 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: made it significant? The nineteen strikeouts? About for Tom sever 630 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: that day? 631 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: Didn't he strike out the side like three times well 632 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: or something like that? 633 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 634 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: Or I got a bunch of them in a row? 635 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: Yeah? But what he struck out ten in a row, 636 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: which set the major league record for most consecutive strikeouts. 637 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 2: But what made them even more significant? They were the 638 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 2: last ten. 639 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 3: Right he ended the game with ten straight. 640 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: Look, I'm not saying I'm not laughing or poop pooing 641 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 2: anyone who strikes out the first ten batters of the game, 642 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: but you are firing because you're not tired yet. The 643 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: last ten batters of the game against Tom sever he 644 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: struck them all out. 645 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: Also not to mention that the first time around the 646 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: batting order, players are trying to clock you, trying to 647 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: size you up, trying to see what kind of stuff 648 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: you got. So by the time they get to see 649 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: you a second or third time, they kind of have 650 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: an idea of what's going on. 651 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 3: So it's even more. 652 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: Impressive from a longevity standpoint and energy standpoint, and then 653 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: of course. 654 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: Of knowledge of your stuff. Right, it's insane. And what 655 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 2: did Tom Sever love to do before every game? When 656 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: he used to do a certain ritual before every game? 657 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: He used to fill out the New York oh Crossword 658 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: Ye Times crossword puzzle. I love that. 659 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: Who was the player who always used to eat a 660 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: peanut butter and jelly sandwich on game days? 661 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: Well, I feel like you've told me this before. 662 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: No, I told you about a picture named Drew Storren 663 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: for the Nationals who I did a story on superstitions 664 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 2: and I said, Drew, do you have any superstitions? Go, no, no, no, 665 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 2: I don't have any superstitions. So I said, I, Drew, 666 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: most people have superstitions. And he said, well, I ate 667 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: a grilled cheese sandwich before every game with a glass 668 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 2: of milk for two years. Does that qualify? I said yes. 669 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 2: He said I've worn the same underwear underneath my uniform 670 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: pants for two years. Does that qualify also? I said yes, 671 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 2: that's a superstition. So it's going to have to qualify there, right, 672 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 2: Tom sever one of the great pictures ever. And remember 673 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: we saw him at the Hall of fame and years 674 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 2: ago with Wally Ramsey and Gus Ramsey, our dear friends 675 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: who were both from Greenwich, Connecticut. And when top Sever 676 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 2: was thinking about making a comeback, he went over to 677 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: Gus Ramsey's house formerly of ESPN and said, Gus, can 678 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 2: you come outside and catch me? I would like to 679 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: get my arm loose here. So Gus Ramsey went out 680 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 2: into the front yard and caught top Sever in his 681 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: front yard, and then Sever said all right, I'm gonna 682 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 2: throw some sliders now. Gus Ramsey goes, Oh my god, 683 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: top Siver's throwing me sliders? How great is that? 684 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 3: It's incredible? 685 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: All right? 686 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: Dad wrapping up today's episode with the best of all 687 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: tim This is where we take a different franchise. We 688 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: allowed Dad to maybe upset some people from time to time, 689 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: but give his opinion. 690 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 3: That's his opinion, his last. 691 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: Of who is the best player to play for that organization? 692 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: So Dad, I give you now the Giants. 693 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 2: Well, this is as easy as it gets. Willie Mays, 694 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 2: of course, is the greatest Giant ever. When he came 695 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: in in nineteen fifty one, Jeff, he was the greatest 696 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: combination of power, speed and defense that the game has 697 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 2: ever seen. And I believe you know what is it? 698 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 2: Seventy four years later, he is still the greatest combination 699 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,919 Speaker 2: of power, speed, and defense the game has ever seen. 700 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 2: He remains the greatest player that I have ever seen, 701 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 2: given defense, speed, power, everything. As Johnny Bench once told me, 702 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: he was magical. He was perfect. That's how great Willie 703 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 2: Mays does. And Johnny Bench told the story once that 704 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 2: Willie Mays was such a smart hitter that he used 705 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 2: to look back at Johnny Bench, who's back there putting 706 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: down the signs trying to get him out, and Willie 707 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 2: would look at Johnny and goes, I know what you're 708 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: doing back there. I know what you're doing, like I'm 709 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 2: way ahead of what you're doing pitches trying to get 710 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 2: me out. So Johnny told me, he said, I figured 711 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: I will try to distract Willie. So during the bat, 712 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to start talking to him. And he said, 713 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 2: I think I asked him a question about some restaurant 714 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 2: like during the at bat, and he goes, while Willie 715 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 2: Mays was answering the question, he hit a ball out 716 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: of the ballpark for a home run, and as he's 717 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 2: running to first, he just looks back at Johnny Bench 718 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: and goes, I'll finish the story next time up. That's 719 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 2: what he said to Johnny Bench. That's how great Willy 720 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 2: Mays was. So Bobby Valentine told me two thousand, they're 721 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 2: in the playoffs and he's got his Mets team in 722 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 2: the playoffs. They would go to the World Series that 723 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 2: year and some of his and they were in San 724 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 2: Francisco in the playoffs and he had Willy come over 725 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 2: to talk to some of the Mets players, and believe 726 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 2: it or not, Jet, some of them did not know 727 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: who Willy Mays was. Oh no, how about that? So 728 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 2: I told that story to Pete Rose and he went, no, no, no, 729 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 2: that's impossible. They didn't know who Willy Mays is. You 730 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 2: don't know who Willy mayses. And then he said, do 731 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 2: you know who God is? 732 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 3: That was his answer to that. 733 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 2: That's how great and revered Willy Mays was, the greatest 734 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 2: giant of all time. 735 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: Well, Dad, wrapping up today, Thank you so so much 736 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: for another great episode. Thank you to members of our 737 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 1: family for messaging us and being a part of the show. 738 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 3: That means so so much. 739 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: Dad now has access to our website so you can 740 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: message us Great Game or what. 741 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 3: Dot com if you want to get involved. 742 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: Dad, I got my fantasy football draft this weekend, so 743 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: I got to go hit some mock drafts so I 744 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: can be the repeat winner of my league and keep 745 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: my ring. 746 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 3: For next season. 747 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 2: All right, Jeff, Oh, so you have your fantasy draft 748 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 2: this weekend on Labor Day Saturday? 749 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, Saturday? 750 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 2: Have you do you know who's got the number one pick? No? 751 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 2: Not yet. 752 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: We're actually gonna time my daughter McKinley, two years old, 753 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: doing a forty yard dash, and everybody is going to 754 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: take a guess at a time, and whoever gets the 755 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: closest gets the first pick. 756 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 2: Can McKinley run forty yards? 757 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 3: We're gonna find out. So I go practice. 758 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 2: So your your brother in law, Mark Keenahan, just had 759 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 2: his fantasy draft and they put the picks on. You 760 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 2: have one minute to make a choice. Yep. They cut 761 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 2: it down from like three hour draft to a one 762 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: hour draft. Is that what you're gonna do? 763 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: Or Well, a lot of us are gonna be together, 764 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: so I think we're gonna end up doing it that 765 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: way because it's just so much quicker. It takes way 766 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: too long, and after after like round seven. It really 767 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 1: doesn't matter who you pick at that point because everyone's 768 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: hitting the waiver. 769 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 3: Wire and none of us know enough about it anyway. 770 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: So all right, well, I have McKinley up in her cribs, 771 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 1: so I need to go manage that. This is the 772 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: life of a five Other Sun podcast right here. 773 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 3: All right, Dad, Well, thank you so much. 774 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 2: You're gonna go take care of your daughter and I'm 775 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 2: gonna go take care of the toilet. 776 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 3: This is what you're doing here, the plumber. 777 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I don't know what's a crap of your job. 778 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 3: All right, here we go, Dad, Thank 779 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: You, thank you so much for listening, and as always, 780 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: thank you for being a part of our family.