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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by Draft Kings. We are

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Speaker 1: going to take a hard look at the Ravens thirty

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Speaker 1: three to thirty one loss to the Cleveland Browns, but

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Speaker 1: on the writer side, we're also going to look ahead

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Speaker 1: to the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll spend a little bit of time breaking

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Speaker 1: down the film on this one, and then we'll turn

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Speaker 1: the page quickly after a pretty frustrating loss.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sometimes after a loss, like you hear the

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Speaker 3: old all the old stereotypes or adages get tossed out there.

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Speaker 3: It's like burn the tape. You know, this isn't really

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Speaker 3: one of those games in the sense that, like the

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Speaker 3: Ravens led for ninety nine point nine percent of the game,

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Speaker 3: so there was a lot of things that.

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Speaker 1: That did go right. Is that a lot nine percent?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Were there were a lot of it ninety.

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Speaker 1: Seven percent chance of winning. So it's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a weird one in that way. You're like, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: how could you have played that bad when you had

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Speaker 1: a ninety seven percent chance of winning the game? Yeah? Right,

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Speaker 1: it's a weird one.

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Speaker 3: It is a weird one. And so we'll break down

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Speaker 3: kind of what went there was some good stuff. There

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Speaker 3: was obviously areas of the Ravens need to improve. So

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Speaker 3: will hit all that and then all look ahead to

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Speaker 3: this matchup against the Bengals because look, as disappointing as

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Speaker 3: it was, the Ravens truly had to turn the page

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Speaker 3: and get right back to work because the season, you know,

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Speaker 3: they have this opportunity here in a lot of way,

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Speaker 3: like both these teams feel like this game, they're in

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Speaker 3: different situations, but the Bengals are in a spot where

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Speaker 3: there's seasons a little bit on the line, and the

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Speaker 3: Ravens have their spot in first place on the line here.

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Speaker 3: So this is a huge game. So we're going to

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Speaker 3: get into all that over the course of this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's start with the Browns game. And obviously

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Speaker 1: a big talking point coming out of this game is

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Speaker 1: another fourth quarter lead blown for the Ravens. In all

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Speaker 1: three games, all three losses this season, the Ravens have

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Speaker 1: blown fourth quarter leads. What's going on? Right, And sure

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Speaker 1: you can talk about kind of the macro view of

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Speaker 1: it goes beyond just this season. This has kind of

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Speaker 1: been a bugaboo for the Ravens even in previous years, Right,

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Speaker 1: and what's behind that is there some kind of deeper

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Speaker 1: root cause, So that is there's something psychological. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm not a therapist. I'm not a psychologist. I

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Speaker 1: was a psychology minor. But I don't know that I'm

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Speaker 1: qualified give you some expertise if it was a major.

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Speaker 3: Oh sure, minor. Eh, you still got the textbooks in

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Speaker 3: a box in the basement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to sell them if you're interested there,

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Speaker 1: you know, but I don't know that we're really qualified

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Speaker 1: to dive into that. But we can look at the tape,

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Speaker 1: right because in each instance, when you separate it, and

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Speaker 1: this is what the Ravens do is they look at

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Speaker 1: the tape and they say, what do we need to

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Speaker 1: fix from this game? What was wrong football wise? From

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Speaker 1: this game? We can we can, you know, deal with

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Speaker 1: all that stuff in the offseason, in training camp and

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Speaker 1: all that other stuff. What's it say on tape? What

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Speaker 1: mistakes did we make? And when I look at it,

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Speaker 1: what it essentially boiled down to was I don't think

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Speaker 1: the Ravens tackled very well in this game at all.

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Speaker 1: I think down the stretch they had too soft to coverage. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And it was just too easy a throws for Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: I thought Deshaun Watson had probably his best game as

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Speaker 1: a Cleveland Brown. And while the majority of his throws

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Speaker 1: down the stretch in particular were pretty easy, he did

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Speaker 1: make some big time throws. Yeah, gotta tip your cap

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Speaker 1: once in a while. And then I think the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: you know, they just kind of kind of to the

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Speaker 1: tackling point. They got bully down the stretch a little bit.

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Speaker 1: They got bully down the stretch for extra yards after

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Speaker 1: catch and after run, and that was the problem down

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Speaker 1: the stretch for them. And they sprinkling a little bad

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Speaker 1: luck there too. I'll add that one in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just to the note of like why

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Speaker 3: does this keep happening? The big picture question? John Harbaugh

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Speaker 3: was asked about that on Monday, and basically the more

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Speaker 3: of the notion, like the psychological aspect of it, like

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Speaker 3: why have you guys not been able to hold these

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter leads this season? Yep, in past, in last

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Speaker 3: year as well, And he said what you basically just said,

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Speaker 3: which is, you know, we're focused on the x's and

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Speaker 3: o's of it, the football of it, and improving that way.

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Speaker 3: I also will say though that like players have talked

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Speaker 3: this year and beyond about the importance of finishing games,

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Speaker 3: and like how that it has been a point of emphasis. Now,

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Speaker 3: finish isn't a football thing. That's not necessarily like everybody

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Speaker 3: says that, right, Yeah, it's like all thirty two teams

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Speaker 3: when they get to the fourth quarter, a bunch of

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Speaker 3: them hold up the four fingers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for fourth quarter. We gotta finish.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta finish.

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Speaker 1: That's that's you know, what does it mean exactly? There's

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Speaker 1: a lot that goes into that.

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Speaker 3: And so there's a lot of that doesn't really tell

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Speaker 3: you anything about the football aspect of it, But I

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Speaker 3: do think that that is a it is a real

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Speaker 3: point of emphasis. So it is surprising when it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the funny thing. I'll just stop you right there.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens came within a whisker of finishing this game,

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Speaker 1: right when adafe Oway pounced on Deshaun Watson's back and

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Speaker 1: the fumble came rolling out. H that was a game

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Speaker 1: finishing play potentially, Yeah, totally right. Wyatt Teller, the Browns

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Speaker 1: right guard just happened to be peel peeling black back

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Speaker 1: to pick up an extra block and the whoop ball

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Speaker 1: rolls out right in front of him. He falls on it.

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Speaker 1: Brown's recovered go down the field for the game winning

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: But like you talk about plays that finished games, it

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Speaker 1: can be sacks, it can be sack strips. The Ravens

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Speaker 1: had a sack strip. They just kind of got unlucky.

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Speaker 1: And that's where I talk about that bad luck, a

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Speaker 1: little sprinkling of that. Like you know, you can sit

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Speaker 1: here and say, yeah, they didn't finish, and that's true,

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Speaker 1: but they had a play that certainly could have done

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Speaker 1: the job. It just bounced the wrong way totally.

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Speaker 3: It certainly could have. And then, like you know, I

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Speaker 3: thought it was interesting. You know, after the game, Kyle

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Speaker 3: Hamilton did make the point. He's like, I felt like

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Speaker 3: we let our foot off the gas a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And I saw some of that. I think it's in

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Speaker 1: some of the coverage you know, the Ravens had earlier.

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Speaker 1: There was a sack by Justin Mattabique on an earlier

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Speaker 1: and fifteen, and all of a sudden, really loose coverage

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Speaker 1: a twenty five yard game, just really loose coverage. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, Marcus Williams and John Harwall talked about this.

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Speaker 1: of motion that he has in there. Hardball talked about

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Speaker 1: it. It's not all the way back. It's getting better, but

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Speaker 1: I think you saw some of that on tape. You know,

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Speaker 1: he had some tackling issues and that reared their heads

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Speaker 1: somewhat on the Browns late touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: That was that was the touchdown drive before the game

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Speaker 3: when you feel goes. That was the six play seventy

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Speaker 3: five yard drive. And when you talk about things being

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Speaker 3: too easy, that drive was just was just too easy.

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Speaker 3: I mean that was boom, boom, boom, just marching down

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Speaker 3: the field when they when you you need to make

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Speaker 3: him work for it. Obviously you don't want to get

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Speaker 3: there you want to run some clock off and just

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Speaker 3: make it difficult. You know it really almost live with

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Speaker 3: the with the twelve play, eight minute touchdown drive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So backing up to that drive again, some really

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Speaker 1: fluky plays that kind of helped the Browns one their

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Speaker 1: their tight end just gets shoved to the ground, rolls

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Speaker 1: for a nine yard game. It looked like me out there,

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Speaker 1: like if they call me from the press box and

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Speaker 1: they said, Mink, we need you for one play, We

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Speaker 1: need you to catch a ball right here, That's what

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Speaker 1: it would look like. I get shoved to the ground

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Speaker 1: off the line, I'd roll around, I'd get back up,

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Speaker 1: and nobody's guarding me anymore because they thought I was done,

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Speaker 1: and I'd catch a ball. It was possome. He played possom. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and so there's like, what how how does that happen?

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Speaker 1: Another one David Najoko off the line, he gets blocked

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Speaker 1: totally blown up off the line, and then Watson flips

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Speaker 1: Like you're just pulling your hair out at that point.

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Speaker 1: How does this stuff happen? Is so frustrating? And Kyle

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Speaker 1: Hamilton did talk about that after the game too, saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, when they keep picking up first downs on

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Speaker 1: third down and extending these drives, it is that's difficult

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Speaker 1: for a defense. And then there was just stuff that

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Speaker 1: was too easy, Like you said, the next touchdown drive,

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Speaker 1: it was a six play drive and it started with

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Speaker 1: that that pass I said with Marcus Williams too loose

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Speaker 1: yard pass and he picks up eleven. Right, It's just

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Speaker 1: he was dragging too many tacklers. It was not It

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Speaker 1: was not a strong tackling day for the Ravens. And

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Speaker 1: then the latt they score on a Deshaun Watson slips out,

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Speaker 1: which he did too many times. Yeah, just the front

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Speaker 3: You let's go to the final drive of the game.

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Speaker 3: Browns get the ball and we already kind of covered

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Speaker 3: the sack. So at that point you're thinking, first, you're thinking.

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Speaker 1: Jump on the ball.

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Speaker 3: Game's over. It exactly happen, the Browns recover it, but

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Speaker 3: you're like, all right, still in good position here, Still

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Speaker 3: in good position here. Second and second in a mile

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Speaker 3: and they're deep in their own face and second and

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Speaker 3: So you're like, all right, feeling pretty good here. This

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Speaker 3: is where we get the great Ravens defensive series exactly.

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Speaker 3: And then that's not what happened.

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Speaker 1: Next throw, Deshaun Watson makes one of his best throws

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Speaker 1: of the game. Tight coverage by Rock you scene on

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, but Watson just drills a seventeen yard pass

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Speaker 1: over the middle, so tough to fault to anybody on that.

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Speaker 1: It was a good coverage, good throw. Again, Watson, I

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Speaker 1: think had one of his best games. But next play,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Annoy misses a tackle and Deshaun Watson leaks out

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Speaker 1: the front door sixteen yard game. Following play, Drone Ford

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Speaker 1: off right guard twelve yard game, pushed the pile for

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Speaker 1: an additional five. Yeah, and now they're in field goal range.

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Speaker 1: Really three plays right there, and that's the game.

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Speaker 3: And you like, again you're thinking that that was the

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Speaker 3: thing that was crazy about this game. There was like

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Speaker 3: multiple things that would happen, and at that point you

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Speaker 3: just kind of felt like, all right, where they're going

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Speaker 3: to win this game? Like on it happened early. I

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Speaker 3: was feeling pretty good after the Kyle Hamilton pick six

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Speaker 3: after the Keaton Mitchell touchdown, feeling we were sizing them

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Speaker 3: you know we're not We're not asking this question about

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Speaker 1: That was way too short that they just seemed Lamar also,

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Speaker 3: your top two tackles like that is a difficult assignment

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Speaker 3: for any offense.

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Speaker 1: That you lose Ronnie Stanley in the in the second

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Speaker 1: against Miles Garrett. Not ideal.

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Speaker 3: Difficult situation, very difficult situation. One thing that I want

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Speaker 3: to talk about, and this has been a big talking

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Speaker 3: point this week, is Keiton Mitchell. So he has the

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Speaker 3: big long touchdown run early in the game, thirty nine yards,

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Speaker 3: and then he has a screen pass. Then he had

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Speaker 3: another play that he could have made. It would have

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Speaker 3: been a tough play, but could have made it for

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Speaker 3: a touchdown on that wheel route in the end zone.

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Speaker 3: Didn't make the catch, but had an opportunity there. It

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Speaker 3: just seemed like man the Keaton Mitchell. The show is

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Speaker 3: often is open here and then in the second half

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Speaker 3: they went away the show. Everyone was my tickets sold out,

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Speaker 3: Yeah and so. And then in the second half the

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Speaker 3: show was closed.

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Speaker 1: I'll meet the Laft. That was pretty good. Yeah, Kurt

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Speaker 1: came down. Now, the Ravens said that they in hindsight,

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Speaker 1: they wish that Keaton had gotten more action in the

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Speaker 1: second half. Yeah, you know, he had two offensive plays

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Speaker 1: in the second half. So and so.

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Speaker 3: But John Harball was asked specifically about that, and it

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Speaker 3: was the way he explained, it does make a little

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Speaker 3: bit more sense, Like he keep in mind, Keaton Mitchell

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Speaker 3: is an undrafted rookie who is playing in what his

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Speaker 3: third game.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So they are not put They were not necessarily throwing

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Speaker 3: the entire playbook at him. They had a package of

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Speaker 3: plays that were available to him.

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Speaker 1: And those just didn't get called.

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Speaker 3: Those didn't get called. Now you can make the case

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Speaker 3: so you should have called him. Okay, fair, And I

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Speaker 3: think that was John Harball's fine. It's like, okay fair.

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Speaker 3: You know, the guy has shown explosive ability. We want

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Speaker 3: to get him the ball and keep him involved.

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Speaker 1: So get and by the way, John said, more touches

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Speaker 1: for Keaton Mitchell coming up in the next game plan.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so so yeah, that's it's kind of twofold.

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Speaker 3: It's calling those plays within the game and then also

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Speaker 3: giving him a heavier workload during the we so that

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Speaker 3: he has.

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Speaker 1: More places with Mitchell exactly now to play Devil's advocate here.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, there was a real fade touchdown targeted

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Speaker 1: specifically for him that he dropped, and that's just on Keaton, right.

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Speaker 1: I thought there were also some other opportunities for him

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Speaker 1: to get the ball and it looked like potentially schemed

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Speaker 1: up for him where Lamar Jackson didn't throw it to him,

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Speaker 1: one of which a defender was right and Lamar's face

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Speaker 1: Keaton Mitchell in the flat. If he gets that ball

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Speaker 1: to him, Keaton Mitchell might house it just defender right

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Speaker 1: in his face. It was almost like the pick six.

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Speaker 1: He could have tried to get that ball over the

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Speaker 1: defender's head, but he opted not to pulled it and ran, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't fault that. You don't want to throw another

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Speaker 1: one off the guy's face mask. There was another kind

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Speaker 1: of out and in out of the backfield on the Ravens'

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Speaker 1: final possession. It was Lamar's final throw that it looked

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Speaker 1: like if he got that ball to Keaton, he could

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Speaker 1: have also been off into the races. Did not end

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Speaker 1: up getting him, and again pressure was the problem. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I think that Keithon Mitchell is going to continue

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Speaker 3: to get more and more of a workload. He has

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Speaker 3: shown that he has a home run threat, so the

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Speaker 3: Ravens are gonna find ways to get him the football. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I think that Thursday night will be another opportunity

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Speaker 3: for him to show what he's.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals obviously were playing really good football. They were

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Speaker 1: like the Ravens lost in the final seconds.

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Speaker 3: So Bill teams are coming in here salting.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they both badly need a win.

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Speaker 3: Right, and like, I never know, you know, it's like

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Speaker 3: the psychology, the psychology of it. It's like, oh, man,

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Speaker 3: like now they're really going to want to win this game.

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Speaker 1: Now. I like that they lost.

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Speaker 3: I know, it's good. It's I mean realistic.

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Speaker 1: They were feeling pretty darn good realistically.

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Speaker 3: It's it's good when other teams in the division lose.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, note side note, I give John Harboss some credit

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Speaker 3: early in the season when he pointed out that the

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Speaker 3: Texas were going to be a pretty good team this year.

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Speaker 3: He was right on that prediction.

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Speaker 1: He was absolutely CJ. Stroud is balling out that might

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Speaker 1: be a playoff team. Really, if you're looking at it,

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Speaker 1: I think that three teams from the AFC North are

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Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs. And I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: crazy to say that four could. I think the Steelers

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Speaker 1: keep pulling rabbits out of their hats. It's crazy. They've

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Speaker 1: been out gained in yardage in every single game.

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Speaker 3: This season, and they're six and three.

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Speaker 1: And they're six and three, I think that eventually catches

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Speaker 1: up with them. But you look at their schedule remaining,

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of winnable games on there for them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one of which will not be in Baltimore. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you that right now.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 1: But if if some team is going to the Bills

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Speaker 1: are looking vulnerable, I think the Texans might be the

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Speaker 1: team most likely to keep an AFC North team out

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Speaker 1: of that final.

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Speaker 3: While yeah, I think they definitely could. I mean they

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Speaker 3: c J. Stroud is a dynamic player. He's probably gonna

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Speaker 3: win Rookie of the Year, and I mean his name

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Speaker 3: has even been floated. I don't think this is gonna happen,

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Speaker 3: but he's even getting tossed around to the MVP conversation.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I think that's probably a bit premature.

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Speaker 1: But he has been one of the best quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the league.

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Speaker 3: One of the best quarterbacks in the league, and is

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Speaker 3: having historic rookie season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's good.

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Speaker 3: John Harvests prediction has proven correct from week one. So

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Speaker 3: in terms of in terms of this game, I mean,

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Speaker 3: the Bengals are coming in here. I think in a

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Speaker 3: lot of ways, feeling like their season is on the line,

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Speaker 3: Like they're in fourth place in the division. They've gone

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Speaker 3: to two straight AFC championships, and this is their opportunity

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Speaker 3: to deliver a massive blow to the Ravens who are

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Speaker 3: atop the division right now. And with as close as

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Speaker 3: this division is, the Bengals can completely turn their fortunes

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Speaker 3: with the win this week, or the Ravens get the

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Speaker 3: win and all of a sudden, the Bengals have a steep, steep,

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Speaker 3: steep hill. Hada climbed down the stretch yep.

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Speaker 1: With a tough remaining schedule with They've got to play

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Speaker 1: a first play schedule yep, and it's going to be

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Speaker 1: difficult for them. Yeah, totally agree. When you look at

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Speaker 1: this on paper, the Ravens are really seem to be

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Speaker 1: the much better team. I mean, I'm just you look

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Speaker 1: down the rankings here. The Ravens are second in total defense,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals are thirtieth. The Ravens are first in rushing offense.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals are dead last, right, I mean, the Bengals

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Speaker 1: rank thirtieth in defense and twenty fourth on offense. It's

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Speaker 1: a runaway on paper.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now, I think that this is a different Bengals

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Speaker 3: team than we saw the first month of the season.

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Speaker 3: I agree, A healthy Joe Burrow makes a big difference

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Speaker 3: for them. Yeah, I mean, Joe Burr is one of

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Speaker 3: the best players in the league. Yeah, and he was

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Speaker 3: not at full strength when the Ravens played them earlier

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Speaker 3: this season. It was Week two. He was still dealing

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Speaker 3: with that cavengry. In that game he aggravated the injury.

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Speaker 3: There was talk of him missing time after that. He

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Speaker 3: ended up not but he was hobbled at the end

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Speaker 3: of that game. He was not as healthy as he

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Speaker 3: is right now. It is a different Bengals team now.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna have some differences this game too. Te Higgans

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Speaker 3: probably isn't gonna play. I know we're gonna talk injuries

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Speaker 3: here in a minute, but Teagan's probably isn't gonna play.

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Speaker 3: That's a big blow for them. So the roster composition

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Speaker 3: is drastically changing. But I do think that having your

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Speaker 1: Help touches the ball every single time.

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Speaker 3: That changes everything else completely.

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Speaker 1: It absolutely does. But what doesn't change I think facing

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Speaker 1: the Bengals is you can't give up the big play's

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Speaker 1: that's when they crawled back into that game against the Texans,

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Speaker 1: which the Texans were they ended up tying it. Texans

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Speaker 1: were leading almost the whole time big plays of Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 1: and that's what the Ravens have done such a good

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Speaker 1: job at the past two years under Mike McDonald. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens have really limited Joe Burrow to a lot of short,

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Speaker 1: checkdown passes. And the Ravens need to tackle a whole

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Speaker 1: lot better than they did against the Browns in that

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Speaker 1: situation because Jamar Chase, we've seen it, he can break

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Speaker 1: one and go right. But if the Ravens do a

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Speaker 1: good job of limiting the big player over the top,

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Speaker 1: which they've done all year long, which they also did

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Speaker 1: well against the Browns, if they can do that against

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, especially with t Higgins out, I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be tough sledding again for the Bengals offense,

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Speaker 1: even with a healthy Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I still think that, like the rivalry aspect

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Speaker 3: of this game is real. I think und percent that

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Speaker 3: is not going away. I only think that's intensifying, and

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Speaker 3: I think there was more talk of that earlier in

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Speaker 3: the season because it was a little bit more fresh

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Speaker 3: off the playoff loss and the way the last season ended.

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Speaker 3: But these two teams don't like each other very much,

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Speaker 3: and you don't have as much time to dive into

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Speaker 3: that in a short week when both teams feel like

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Speaker 3: this is a massive AFC North game in the middle

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Speaker 3: of the season, there's not as much of that dialogue

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Speaker 3: going on. But I do think that like these teams

651
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Speaker 3: do not like each other, they both want to they

652
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: both want to beat the other team like badly. They

653
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Speaker 3: want to. They want they want it's a real rivalry.

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Speaker 3: I think that this, Yeah, but I think the necessity

655
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Speaker 3: of this rivalry is at the top right now in

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Speaker 3: the division for me, even more so than the Steelers. I

657
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: think that these two teams, with the players that they have,

658
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Speaker 3: this rivalry is number one for me right now.

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Speaker 1: I would agree with that. I think X's no is

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Speaker 1: just talking about what the Ravens need to do in

661
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Speaker 1: this game. I think they need to run the ball

662
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Speaker 1: a whole lot better than they did against the Browns,

663
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Speaker 1: and they have the thirtieth ranked rush defense to do

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Speaker 1: it against. That's without by the way, Trey Hendrickson also,

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Speaker 1: So let's just get into the injuries while we're mentioning

666
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Speaker 1: it here. For the Bengals, like we said, t Higgins

667
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Speaker 1: probably not gonna play, suffered a midweek injury last week

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Speaker 1: that it sounds like is still going to hold him

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Speaker 1: out for this week. H Trey Hendrickson hyper extended his

670
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Speaker 1: knee on the final play for the Bengals against the

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Speaker 1: the Texans. There's no way he's coming back. They can

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Speaker 1: say he's got a chance all they want, but there's

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Speaker 1: no way he's coming back for this game. And then

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Speaker 1: it's it's also a question mark for Sam Hubbard, another

675
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Speaker 1: defensive end who's dealing with an ankle injury. That's another

676
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Speaker 1: question mark for them. So those are three key players,

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Speaker 1: two of which are your top defensive ends. I think

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Speaker 1: this is a game where the Ravens can run the

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Speaker 1: ball and Gus Edwards, Keaton Mitchell some more Keaton Mitchell

680
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Speaker 1: get the ground game going. The Ravens are still first

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Speaker 1: in the league one hundred and nearly one hundred and

682
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Speaker 1: fifty five yarsing guards per game, and I think that

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Speaker 1: this is a game where they can continue that and

684
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Speaker 1: really kind of keep the ball out of Joe Burr's

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Speaker 1: hands by virtue of running the ball. Well, yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean that's the best defense, is a good offense, especially

687
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Speaker 3: if you can sustain drives, and the Ravens have the

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Speaker 3: running game to do that. The injuries for the Ravens,

689
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Speaker 3: they're dealing with their own significant injuries. Marlon Humphrey reported

690
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: calf strain. That's not John Harbo said, is not. Seriously,

691
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Speaker 3: there's a chance for Thursday. These Thursday games, like the

692
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Speaker 3: injury report, you can only take so much from it

693
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Speaker 3: because it's like an x intimation and it's not they're

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Speaker 3: not fully practicing and all that. But for both Marlon

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Speaker 3: Humphrey and Ronnie Stanley, John Harwall said that there's a

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Speaker 3: chance that they could play on Thursday. They both left

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Speaker 3: the game on Sunday did not return. I mean, it

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Speaker 3: would be surprising if they're able to make that quick

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Speaker 3: turn and be out there again on Thursday. But John

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Speaker 3: Harwall said that there's a chance for basically day to day.

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Speaker 3: So the good news there not long term injuries. When

702
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Speaker 3: you see Ronnie pounding the turf and you see people

703
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Speaker 3: speculating about Marlon like.

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Speaker 1: Non contacted none.

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Speaker 3: The Twitter doctors saying this could be an achilles, it's

706
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Speaker 3: like This's a lesson, by the way, about listening to

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Speaker 3: the Twitter doctors. You know what, Sometimes they're right, but

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Speaker 3: sometimes they ain't. Yeah, and when you haven't seen the patient,

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Speaker 3: like this is just a word of caution, a word

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Speaker 3: of caution exactly. Just don't don't buy into all that

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Speaker 3: stuff right away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, but but it would be it would be a

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Speaker 3: lot for them to be able to play, you would

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Speaker 3: think on a short week like this, but who knows,

716
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Speaker 3: maybe they can get out there and go. Now.

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Speaker 1: The good news for the Ravens at offensive tackle is

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Speaker 1: Morgan Moses was a full practice participant all last week.

719
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Speaker 1: The Ravens held him out. I think in part because

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Speaker 1: they had the short week. They wanted to give him

721
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Speaker 1: a little longer time to get that shoulder right and

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Speaker 1: not have him on a short week coming off a game.

723
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Speaker 1: So if he returns, he was an estimated full practice

724
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Speaker 1: participant on Monday. If he returns, then Patrick McCay can

725
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Speaker 1: kick over to left tackle, Morgan back at right tackle.

726
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Speaker 1: So I think that the Ravens with Patrick McCarey are

727
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Speaker 1: in a good spot. Patrick has to play a better

728
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Speaker 1: game than he did against the Browns, but I have

729
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Speaker 1: faith that he can do that, absolutely, especially when you

730
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Speaker 1: aren't going against Miles Garrett and Sadarius Smith and their

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Speaker 1: top pass rusher Tray Henderson. Hendrickson is probably not playing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and in the AFC North like dealing with those

733
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Speaker 3: it's honestly really difficult to play two AFC North teams

734
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Speaker 3: back to back like that Browns game was a physical game.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I was happy to see more I was happy

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Speaker 1: not to see more guys on the Ravens cindery report

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Speaker 1: who had left the game and then come back in

738
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Speaker 1: like Jadeveon Clowney for instance. Yeah, totally not on the

739
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Speaker 1: injury report. I thought that was a good thing.

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Speaker 3: That's encouraging.

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Speaker 1: And cornerback wise, the Ravens also have a lot of

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Speaker 1: depth at corner You know, if Marlin cannot play Rock,

743
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Speaker 1: you see, I would assume would probably.

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Speaker 3: Step in question, is it Rock, is it Derby? It

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Speaker 3: was Rock it recently, and but it was Derby earlier

746
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Speaker 3: in the season. It could be a mix and match

747
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Speaker 3: that they've used both of them in games before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. I would probably lean toward Rock, but

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Speaker 1: we'll see. So the Ravens have options at cornerback as well.

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Speaker 1: This is where your depth comes to fruition.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well you need you need depth that the corner

752
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Speaker 3: spied Ravens know that as well as anybody, especially in

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Speaker 3: these games against the Bengals. So the other thing I

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Speaker 3: want to mention for this game, it's gonna be an

755
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Speaker 3: awesome atmosphere. Wear black. We're telling everybody to wear black.

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Speaker 1: Do you have all black suit?

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Speaker 3: All black suit? I you know what, you haven't got

758
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Speaker 3: one of these yet? Maybe I'll wear this. We just

759
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Speaker 3: got these sick ouddies.

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Speaker 1: You hear the press box and mine's waiting for me

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Speaker 1: in the mailbox and I'm gonna check it right after this.

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Speaker 3: You don't have a hoodie yet, and you're looking for it,

763
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 3: and I know that you eyeing up my hoodie.

764
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Speaker 1: So I know you're the one that stole my T

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Speaker 1: shirt out of my mailbox. I know it was you,

766
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Speaker 1: not guilty.

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Speaker 3: So everybody wear black. The theme is darkness there and

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Speaker 3: nothing more. So we've got for the introductions, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: go lights out. It's gonna be a light show. It's

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Speaker 3: gonna be awesome pre game like those intros for night games.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing like that. And with with the black out

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Speaker 3: there at the stadium, like it's just gonna be such

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Speaker 3: a cool atmosphere. And then at halftime, big boy from

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Speaker 3: Al Cash is performing, so that's gonna be great.

775
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Speaker 1: So they're gonna bring my Johnny Cash look okay man

776
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Speaker 1: in black.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 1: It'll be cool. It's gonna be it's gonna be lit.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a special night. I think back

780
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Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty one game Ravens versus Chiefs prime time.

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00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: That game was a special moment at M and T

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Speaker 1: Banks Stadium. The Lamar flip into the ends and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna have those kind of vibes. I think there's God.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree with that. I like the twenty

785
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: nineteen game against the Patriots that was Lamar vus Brady.

786
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: That was an iconic game. I believe the Patriots had

787
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: just won the Super Bowl the previous year, so that

788
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 3: was a big time matchup in the Ravens won. So

789
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 3: like there's these these primetime games. The Ravens are nineteen

790
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: and three in home prime time games under John Harwall.

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Speaker 3: That's the best record in the NFL since he's been

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00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: here in two thousand and eight. It's been next to

793
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: impossible to win at MT bak Stdium in prime time

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00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: for opposing teams, and so certainly hope that's the case,

795
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Speaker 3: and the home field advantage is a big reason for that.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely well, get ready Ravens fans, because it's gonna be.

797
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Speaker 2: A win against the Vegles. That was the biggest one.

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Speaker 2: I got who that's a big one. Get Ready Ravens fans.

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Speaker 1: Let's go