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Speaker 1: Something strange is going on. Who is killing Russian billionaires?

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Speaker 1: Another Russian oligarch has been found dead. Reports suggests that

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Speaker 1: he hanged himself, fell out of a window, slashed his wrists,

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Speaker 1: was poisoned, murdered his whole family. Last year, more than

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Speaker 1: a dozen Russian oligarchs died in the space of nine months.

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Speaker 1: Many of the deaths are suspicious with links to the Kremlin.

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Speaker 1: This is sad Oligach, an investigation into these recently dead

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Speaker 1: Russian billionaires. It's created by me jake Hanrahan and my

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Speaker 1: colleague Sergey Slipchenko. Sad Oligarch is a h eleven production

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Speaker 1: for Kulso Media and iHeartRadio. In this episode, we're going

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Speaker 1: to be looking into someone with quite a different profile.

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Speaker 1: This case is not about a rich Russian businessman, but

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Speaker 1: a rich Russian scientist. He was a friend of the

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Speaker 1: Kremlin and he died in mysterious circumstances. The Russian police

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Speaker 1: quickly swept the case under the rug, categorizing it as

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Speaker 1: an accident, but we think there's more to it. On

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Speaker 1: September twenty one, twenty twenty two, anatotally Garishchenko seventy three,

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Speaker 1: was visiting the Moscow Aviation Institute the Mai. He had

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Speaker 1: a new role at the institute as an advisor to

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Speaker 1: the current director, after some serious drama had unfolded previously.

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Speaker 1: Until twenty fifteen, Garishchenko was the head of the institute,

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Speaker 1: making him an official point of contact for the Kremlin.

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Speaker 1: By all accounts, he was even an ally of Putin.

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Speaker 1: As Garishchenko made his way down some steps at the institute,

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Speaker 1: he apparently tripped and fell. He tumbled hard down several

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Speaker 1: flights of stairs. By the time he got to the bottom,

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Speaker 1: he was dead. According to an unnamed source in the

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Speaker 1: Kremlin linked newspaper Zvestia, Garishchenko died there and then on

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Speaker 1: the grounds of the institute. There are quote Erishchenko fell

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Speaker 1: from a great height, flying down several flights of stairs.

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Speaker 1: Medicks arrived at the scene of the incident and pronounced

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Speaker 1: him dead ends quote. It must have been a heavy fall.

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Speaker 1: Garishchenko was fairly old, sure, but he was neither unfit

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Speaker 1: nor unwell. In fact, in photos he looks really good

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Speaker 1: for his age. Presumably he'd bashed his head in on

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Speaker 1: the steps on the way down, or perhaps broken his neck.

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Speaker 1: We don't know for sure, as no official autopsy was

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Speaker 1: ever released to the public. Moscow Aviation Institute released a

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Speaker 1: statement at the time of Garishchenko's death, saying, quote the

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Speaker 1: death was the result of an accident. His untimely demise

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Speaker 1: was a colossal loss for the m AI and the

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Speaker 1: scientific and pedagogical community end quote. Garishchenko had worked in

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Speaker 1: aviation since nineteen seventy seven. ATMAI, he was a lead engineer,

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Speaker 1: chief mechanic and vice director for the development of the

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Speaker 1: institute's complex and social issues. From two thousand and seven

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Speaker 1: to twenty fifteen, he was the head director of the MAAI.

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Speaker 1: He published more than one hundred scientific papers and articles.

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Speaker 1: So what does the death of a scientist have to

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Speaker 1: do with sad oligach and a totally Garishchenko wasn't just

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Speaker 1: any scientist, and the Moscow Aviation Institute isn't just any

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Speaker 2: Moscow Aviation Institute was established in nineteen thirty so it

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Speaker 2: goes back to Soviet days.

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Speaker 1: That's Arab Shabanian, a researcher with a special focus on aviation,

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Speaker 1: specifically in the context of global unrest and authoritarian countries.

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Speaker 1: I spoke to him to get an idea of the

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Speaker 1: cooperation between the MAI and the Russian government.

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Speaker 2: The name makes it sound like it's an independent university

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Speaker 2: of some kind, but it's really not. It's they work

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Speaker 2: for the Russian government and they have since the days

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Speaker 2: of the Soviet Union. When the Soviet Union broke up,

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Speaker 2: the Russian government became almost the sole contractor with this,

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Speaker 2: with this university, and so a lot of the greats

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Speaker 2: in Russian and Soviet history went through this this institute.

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Speaker 2: Your Sukhoy's, your mccoyen's, your Illusians, Tupelevs, you know, all

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Speaker 2: these famous aircraft names are folks who went through this institute,

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Speaker 2: mister Koalashtikov, he is also an alumni of the institute.

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Speaker 2: So that's the background there is that it's been very

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Speaker 1: So when it says aviation, it's a lot more than that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's aviation based, but it's more electrotechnical. They

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Speaker 2: have several different schools. They have like aeronautical engineering, but

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Speaker 2: they also have remote controls for flying vehicles, so you

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Speaker 2: can imagine how that would be useful for more than

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Speaker 2: business engineering, things like that, social engineering, anything that can

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Speaker 2: be related to aeronautics in some way happens at this institute.

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Speaker 1: It's more than just learning how to fly right. And

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Speaker 1: what kind of connection would this aviation institute have with

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Speaker 1: let's say the military in Russia.

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Speaker 2: Think of it like any of the defense contractors in

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Speaker 2: least in the US, your lockheeds and your raytheons are

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Speaker 2: to time. Whereas the design bureaus that are supported by

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Speaker 2: who then it sells to outside customers. So their sole customer,

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Speaker 2: their prime customer and prime interest is the Russian government.

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Speaker 1: So this guy, Gusha Chenklo, he was the head for

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Speaker 1: many many years of the institute. Then there was some

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Speaker 1: But anyway, this guy was elected twice in a row.

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Speaker 1: He made a lot of money through that. What kind

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it would be very direct. I

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Speaker 2: mean the same in Russia happens in other countries right

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Speaker 2: where this guy's name may be on the designs, but

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Speaker 2: we both know one dude didn't design a fighter jet.

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Speaker 2: There was a whole team behind him. But he's the

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Speaker 2: guy who's gotten favor with the government. He's the government's

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Speaker 2: favorite guy in this case. So to see him from

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Speaker 2: at least friendly with the Kremlin. They wouldn't promote somebody

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Speaker 2: or was an unknown entity. They wouldn't want that. And

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Speaker 2: I think that seeing the previous leader fall kind of

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Speaker 2: proves that if you're not entirely subservient to what the

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Speaker 1: So, as you can see, this aviation scientist suddenly becomes

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Speaker 1: a lot more relevant to this series. So who actually

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Speaker 1: was anatotally Garishchenko? Anatotally Garishchenko born in nineteen forty nine,

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Speaker 1: worked at the Moscow Aviation Institute for most of his career.

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Speaker 1: He first got a job there in nineteen ninety seven,

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Speaker 1: at the MAI. By all accounts, Garishchenko was very popular

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Speaker 1: elected a second time as the rector in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 1: As Aramunmi discussed, the MAI works hand in hand with

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Speaker 1: prestigious awards by the Russian government. Notably, he was awarded

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Speaker 1: the Medal of the Order for Merit to the Fatherland.

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Speaker 1: This medal is a big deal for Russian citizens in

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Speaker 1: favor of Putin's government. The medal is split into different

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Speaker 1: categories for civilians and military, from first class to fourth class.

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Speaker 1: It's awarded to Russians for quote outstanding contributions to the

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Speaker 1: seen as Garishchenko worked in aviation, he was awarded this medal.

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Speaker 1: For the latter half of that statement, generally, if you're

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Speaker 2: It's not like the Medal of Honor in the US,

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Speaker 2: which is awarded for military prowess and has to be

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Speaker 2: passed by Congress. This is something that can be given

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Speaker 2: to people by the Kremlin who the Kremlin likes. It's

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Speaker 2: like how Trump gave what's his name that radio show

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Speaker 2: hosts the Presidential Medal of Freedom, right where it's like

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Speaker 2: it kind of loses meaning after a while because it's

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Speaker 2: just like, oh, look, all your friends happen to have

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. But I would then say, then that probably

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Speaker 1: shows that he was quite in favor in Putin's favorite.

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Speaker 1: It's not just reports, oh he was an ally. That

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Speaker 1: suggests to me like, yeah, that's the real deal. Definitely

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Speaker 1: where he's used for them kind of friends, right.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, they were friends. Emphasis on were But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean it's kind of like, you know, if I've got

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Speaker 2: going to be decked out in metals. That's the way

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Speaker 1: So it's clear Garishchenko was in good standing with the Kremlin.

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Speaker 1: He got middles Awards and was the head of the

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Speaker 1: Moscow Aviation Institute, which helped advance technology that assists the

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Speaker 1: Kremlin's war efforts all across the world. Garrischenko was Putin's

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Speaker 1: guy until he wasn't. Twenty fifteen, storm broke out at

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Speaker 1: the m AI serious upheaval assist the universe and research institute.

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Speaker 1: The similarly named Moscow Institute of Technological Aviation was shut

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Speaker 1: to the MAI to replace Garrishchenko with no election. No

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Speaker 1: No one even knew this guy was coming to take over.

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Speaker 1: This caused a lot of trouble at the MAI. Surgery

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Speaker 3: Moscow Aviation Institute to the one that remained while the

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Speaker 3: other one got shut down. Is actually apparently like a

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Speaker 3: really really big deal. It's kind of like the only

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Speaker 3: and they basically train everybody in the They call it

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Speaker 3: So Anatoly Greshenko, you know, the one that passed away.

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Speaker 3: He got elected as a director in twentousand and seven,

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Speaker 3: reelected twenty twelve, and his contract was actually expiring in

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Speaker 3: going to get reelected again, but before that happened, a

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Speaker 3: sister institute was kind of being run into the ground

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Speaker 3: by Rojasinsky. So the guy that eventually replaced him, he's

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Speaker 3: definitely he definitely like gets the blame for it.

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Speaker 1: I found like a video on some kind.

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Speaker 3: Of Russian talk show where he's being questioned like why

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Speaker 3: is the university failing to produce graduates? Why is the

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Speaker 3: university like ranking poorly things like that, and they're kind

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Speaker 3: of they're basically pushing the blame onto him as like

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Speaker 3: the director for failing to have results. And that's in

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Speaker 3: twenty fourteen. So the Russian Department of Education decided that

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Speaker 3: it's losing money, it's not producing results.

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Speaker 1: They shut it down.

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Speaker 3: But obviously, you know, all these the buildings, intact, a

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Speaker 3: lot of professors are still there. They essentially merged it

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Speaker 3: and over like oversaw all the projects, all the studies

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Speaker 3: that were going at the other institute. And for whatever reason,

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Speaker 3: the Education department decided to install Razjatsinski without being elected,

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Speaker 3: without really consulting with anyone. For whatever reason, they decided that, like,

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Speaker 3: this guy's going to be in charge.

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Speaker 1: So then they bring in a new guy without any election.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they just basically said this guy is going to

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: This is the guy that ran the sister university into

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Speaker 1: the ground, but for some reason, the Russian government decided

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Speaker 1: Of the one year, Rogertzinsky quietly left his position as

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Speaker 1: Right, That's not the institute's fault, right. The institute is

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Speaker 1: So maybe Putin or someone else high up in the

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Speaker 1: Money Now, Whilst the average Russian academic is unlikely to

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Speaker 3: I listened to the salaries for these directors. It starts

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Speaker 3: Actually, I was trying to find anything on him and Rojasinski,

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Speaker 3: and I found some documents. It's titled like anti corruption

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Speaker 3: documents or something. Essentially when you work for a government institute.

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Speaker 3: I know this because this is something they do in Ukraine,

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Speaker 3: but essentially you kind of declare like these are the

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Speaker 3: homes I own, these are the assets, this is the

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Speaker 3: money I have. And I found some on both Rajasinski

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Speaker 3: and get a Shinko from around this. Well, first I

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Speaker 3: looked at it was Jasinski and he only has one salary,

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Speaker 3: the declaration or whatever.

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Speaker 1: The following is a small look into the life of

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Speaker 1: the form ahead of the Mai or Jetzinski. No, the

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Speaker 1: salary he pulled in in one year versus the assets

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Speaker 1: he declared on the phone.

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Speaker 3: Seventy thousand USD, So that would be from the first

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Speaker 3: year he worked there, right, or the only year he

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Speaker 3: worked there. Then he has a porschekm and he has

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Speaker 3: two apartments. Then his wife, her declaration has twelve million rubles,

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Speaker 3: which again is two hundred thousand USD. And I was like, wow, okay,

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Speaker 3: this guy is kind of seeing to be set up,

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Speaker 3: like I don't know, like basically a Hollywood villain, you know,

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Speaker 3: came in removed this passionate professor who's such a good guy.

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Speaker 3: Everybody loves him, everybody's gussing about him. He's driving this

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Speaker 3: Porschekyen and I'm like, I'm starting to feel bad for

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Speaker 3: he had a shinko. And then I look at his assets.

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Speaker 1: Now this the following is a look into anatotly garish Chenko's,

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Speaker 1: or at least what he himself declared on the anti

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Speaker 1: corruption forms that surge you uncovered.

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Speaker 3: This guy has three apartments, a datcha so summer home.

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Speaker 3: He has three garages, which I assume are connected to

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Speaker 3: the apartment slash homes. He has another home, two cars,

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Speaker 3: and this is the stuff that he declared.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: His salary is pretty similar the salary is pretty normal.

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Speaker 1: But then he has all these assets. Well, how did

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Speaker 1: the garish chenco afford all this fancy stuff? Was it

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Speaker 1: gifts or did he have some kind of secondary income.

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Speaker 1: He didn't declare one, but he did declare his garages,

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Speaker 1: his three apartments, his cars, and his holiday homes.

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Speaker 3: When you declare these things, you're kind of saying like,

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Speaker 3: this is what I'm willing to show you. If you

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Speaker 3: want to say I have something else, like go ahead

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Speaker 3: and improve it. You know, this is not like you're

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Speaker 3: obligated to reveal everything. This is the stuff he was

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Speaker 3: comfortable saying.

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Speaker 1: But wait, there's more. The head academic of the MAI

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Speaker 1: not only had all of these garages, the houses, and

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Speaker 1: the kas, he also owned land also. He has two

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Speaker 1: land plots.

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Speaker 3: One is six hundred and sixty five square kilometers, one

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Speaker 3: is three thousand square kilometers.

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Speaker 1: How does the head of a research university on seventy

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Speaker 1: grand a year end up with a load of land,

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Speaker 1: three apartments, a holiday home, their own home, two cars,

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Speaker 1: and two garages. Maybe Garishchenko was getting more than medals

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Speaker 1: from the Kremlin. Perhaps in this opaque world of Russian

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Speaker 1: government funded research facilities that have direct ramifications to the

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Speaker 1: ongoing shambles that is Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Getting assassinated

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Speaker 1: is a possible workplace hazard. It's either that or Garishenko

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Speaker 1: simply just fell down the stairs and it was an accident.

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Speaker 1: Everything else is a coincidence. The chilling thing is I

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Speaker 1: think in this case, both results are possible. Sad Oligarch

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