Speaker 1: Are you leaving? I you wanna way back home? Either way,
Speaker 1: we want to be there.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us
Speaker 2: time and a terminol and gay.
Speaker 1: We want to send you off inside.
Speaker 2: We wanna welcome you back home. Tell us all about it.
Speaker 1: We scared her?
Speaker 2: Was it fine?
Speaker 1: Melbourne? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 3: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do your need you ride?
Speaker 4: Ride?
Speaker 2: Do you need.
Speaker 4: With Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need to ride?
Speaker 4: This is Chris Fairbanks and this is Karen Tilgara. If
Speaker 4: you're just tuning in now you missed the last couple episodes.
Speaker 4: We are back in the car. It's very exciting. We're
Speaker 4: leaving Karen's house to pick up Roz Hernandez.
Speaker 2: Today's guest of Ghosted by ros Hernandez podcast Roz Fernandez.
Speaker 4: And I've been on Ghosted. I can't remember my ghost
Speaker 4: much like a ghost. My story just dissipated into the
Speaker 4: air like a spiritual dandelion spot.
Speaker 2: Your story was fuzzy at the bottom and had no
Speaker 2: shoes because it wasn't really there.
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know why, but in preparation, like I'm
Speaker 4: just to bombard her with ghost de talks.
Speaker 3: I've been watching sightings.
Speaker 4: I started with because We're in a car, the ghosts
Speaker 4: in Japan after the tsunami, and eleven who were getting
Speaker 4: into taxis. This journalist talked to like one hundred taxi
Speaker 4: drivers and seven of them all had stories of wet
Speaker 4: young people getting in the car and then they get
Speaker 4: to the destination, no one's there. That's also on an
Speaker 4: episode of which was funny because it's all murders. And
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden there was a very interesting
Speaker 4: what I felt like could have been a longer documentary.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think it should be ghost taxis.
Speaker 3: Well, I went down a wormhole.
Speaker 4: And there's the problem is when there's footage like there
Speaker 4: was so much footage of ghosts.
Speaker 3: What Oh wow.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're just a guy that you know what,
Speaker 4: And if you drive a BMW out there, I'm sure
Speaker 4: you're not because if you listen to this podcast, you're
Speaker 4: like minded and you're not an aggressive traveler. But I'm
Speaker 4: afraid a lot of BMW drivers are Hey entitled, I
Speaker 4: am yeah, me first.
Speaker 2: Well, and also what that guy did is the classic
Speaker 2: and I'd really like to bring this up to our listenership.
Speaker 2: If you're driving a car and you're trying to pull
Speaker 2: out into traffic and you're looking to the right, you
Speaker 2: have to also look to the left.
Speaker 1: It's the rule. And I think the rule is right, left,
Speaker 1: right or left right left.
Speaker 4: Which i've my whole life. I've tripled that. I go
Speaker 4: right left, right, left, right, left, right left. I look
Speaker 4: like a luna, yes.
Speaker 1: But it's only so that you don't.
Speaker 2: Because my big crash in the Honda Fit back in
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. I don't know if you remember that where
Speaker 2: I pulled out in front of someone. I went right, left, right,
Speaker 2: and then there was a lady who was waiting to
Speaker 2: make a left turn around me and I was at
Speaker 2: a stop sign. She was not, and she waved me
Speaker 2: to go, like you're fine, go ahead, And I went
Speaker 2: and pulled out in front of someone and got t boned.
Speaker 4: Oh see, I bet she was a ghost. Oh getting revenge.
Speaker 1: You never considered it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is how I died, And now this is
Speaker 3: how you're going.
Speaker 1: Oh that was Ken Marino. We just drove by Ken Marino.
Speaker 3: Ken Marino from The Catering Show.
Speaker 2: Yes, the Catering show, of which the name I can't
Speaker 2: remember Party Down, Party Down. And he's also on the
Speaker 2: other two as the hilarious manager who I love. And
Speaker 2: he was just driving and I noticed him because he
Speaker 2: was driving in a Tesla and you can really see
Speaker 2: people sitting in their seat, and it was that guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're just like.
Speaker 4: They're just exactly like Karen. You're a celebrity too, Oh
Speaker 4: not like minute, I don't. There's certain in certain rooms,
Speaker 4: I'm a bit of a Ken Marino.
Speaker 1: Hell, yes you are, because I uh.
Speaker 4: Where shorted jeans shorts like he did in wet, hot
Speaker 4: America summer.
Speaker 3: Sometimes in certain way. That's really all I have in
Speaker 3: common with him, just mainly because he's so much taller.
Speaker 3: Was he He's big? Could you tell he was tall
Speaker 3: in the car?
Speaker 1: No, I was just I was just mes Maris by
Speaker 1: his face.
Speaker 4: I in my car, you can crank up the height
Speaker 4: of the seat like there's a little.
Speaker 3: Pomp on the side.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And I have it to the very tallest,
Speaker 4: so I look like I'm tall while driving.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'm hunched over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And people are less likely to do me first,
Speaker 4: slow down in front of me like that guy did.
Speaker 3: And they're like, oh, that guy looks like six ' four.
Speaker 3: But they don't know about my little legs.
Speaker 2: You don't know they're being tricked. You're like a Ventril
Speaker 2: puppet driving a car.
Speaker 3: You're a far away magicon.
Speaker 1: Oh, I have to tell you just a brief story
Speaker 1: about going to dinner last night.
Speaker 2: Keep it, keep it brief, as brief as possible, but
Speaker 2: I love details. Yeah, went to dinner with did Yl Kramer,
Speaker 2: COO of the Exactly Right.
Speaker 1: Network, and I ordered chicken.
Speaker 2: I wasn't that hungry. They gave me literally like eight
Speaker 2: pieces of chicken. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: And so then I was like, can I take this
Speaker 2: to go?
Speaker 3: Were these fingers or thighs or I.
Speaker 1: Believe they were thighs.
Speaker 2: Actually they were really good, but I only ate one,
Speaker 2: and so I took the box to go. And when
Speaker 2: I got home, the dogs were very happy to see me,
Speaker 2: got a lot of attention. I went right to bed
Speaker 2: because it was like ten o'clock and Blossom didn't come
Speaker 2: in the way she always does, and I'm like, what
Speaker 2: are you doing? Get in here? Like what where else
Speaker 2: are you? That's so weird? And when she came in,
Speaker 2: she was a lick in her lips and licking her
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what did you do? So then when
Speaker 2: I got into this card today to get us ready
Speaker 2: for this record, I noticed there was chicken grease.
Speaker 1: All over this console, all over your seat.
Speaker 2: So this the box that I had taken it in.
Speaker 2: They must have been like, well, here's a great part
Speaker 2: of this chicken. Is this super greasy sauce? Oh And
Speaker 2: basically it's spilled out without me knowing, And the car
Speaker 2: had been covered in like chicken.
Speaker 4: Sauce, so no chicken was consumed. They just got the
Speaker 4: greasy juices.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think my purse had a lot of chicken
Speaker 2: grease on the outside of it, and I probably tracked
Speaker 2: some in.
Speaker 3: You know five, This is actually good news. I thought
Speaker 3: I had had an accident squeaking around.
Speaker 1: You're eating those olio chips, yes.
Speaker 4: The constant yen Yeah, the wow ruffles.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: We all thought overweight had been saltd Yes.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 4: It was the well I can't remember the miracle drug
Speaker 4: that everyone's taking. Yeah, this was like a delicious ozempic,
Speaker 4: except it caused and I'm not here to be graphic,
Speaker 4: but that in a medical way, it caused foamy, oh
Speaker 4: leaky kage.
Speaker 1: I never heard phony.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's from uh not first person experience.
Speaker 3: It was my last stepmother.
Speaker 1: Second person, your last stepmother, your most recent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, the one before the most recent. I've
Speaker 4: made an effort to have the most stepmothers.
Speaker 1: How many do you have so far?
Speaker 3: Oh there's only been two?
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I like.
Speaker 1: I like the counting though.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I am keeping it. I have hash marks
Speaker 4: above my prison bed. One time, my my cousin and
Speaker 4: best friend from best friend, first cousin. We found out
Speaker 4: later when I found him at a family reunion.
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 1: From childhood?
Speaker 3: You heard it?
Speaker 1: I can't believe when I'm hearing.
Speaker 4: Sixth grade he was one of my best I know,
Speaker 4: it sounds like there should be banjo's playing in the background.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 4: He was a cool kid skateboarder, and he became a
Speaker 4: professional snowboarder.
Speaker 3: But he's my good friend.
Speaker 4: And in sixth grade we met, and then later that
Speaker 4: year I went to a family reunion at Flathead Lake
Speaker 4: and he was there and we found out that his
Speaker 4: uncle was my mother's cousin.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh wait, and he's starting to sound yes,
Speaker 2: you've told me this before.
Speaker 3: I yes, and I wouldn't have.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't I only it was new to us because
Speaker 4: of our memory problems.
Speaker 2: Everything's kind of new, okay, talk about a left right
Speaker 2: left situation.
Speaker 1: I just put myself into fear.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping you extend your right arm like I'm a.
Speaker 3: Fragile bag of breakable books.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm never going to get across in this way.
Speaker 2: There's just too much.
Speaker 3: But it was, Oh, you're doing good, you're doing good.
Speaker 3: Oh man, this car is some silent get up and go.
Speaker 4: His dog on Christmas ate an entire honeybag, tam an
Speaker 4: entire was a little cocker spaniel.
Speaker 3: Ate an entire your.
Speaker 2: Cousin friend the dog is doog No, No, I know, yes.
Speaker 4: No, my cousin friend didn't get my cousin's slash friend
Speaker 4: didn't get a bite of hamm and neither did any
Speaker 4: humans because of the dog, and was on his back,
Speaker 4: barely breathing, almost.
Speaker 3: Ate to death.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's had to be rushed to ask, like, imagine
Speaker 4: being to where it's like, now's my chance?
Speaker 3: I used to eat like that when I was younger.
Speaker 4: H Yeah, I don't know when I'm gonna have a
Speaker 4: giant plate of spaghetti in the next forty eight hours.
Speaker 4: I better eat it all now, even all signs, even
Speaker 4: though all signs are showing, don't showing me to stop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the hardest when you either are hungry and
Speaker 2: worried about the next time you're gonna eat, or you're
Speaker 2: just kind of scarred from like that experience. That was
Speaker 2: my childhood experience where it's like I'm gonna leave school.
Speaker 2: I ate it like a bolognan cheese sandwich at what
Speaker 2: twelve thirty. I'm gonna leave school at three point thirty.
Speaker 2: Anything can happen, And the next time somebody's gonna provide
Speaker 2: anything for me is seven pm at the earth Right.
Speaker 1: That's not great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you were like that too.
Speaker 5: It's like I would cord food but with my.
Speaker 2: Mouth yes, Or I would just always be on the
Speaker 2: kind of like the lookout of like do I have
Speaker 2: a quarter?
Speaker 1: Can I buy a snicker?
Speaker 5: Would?
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have overeaten if someone would finally invent a
Speaker 4: refrigerated fanny.
Speaker 5: Pack or just shark go over.
Speaker 2: The plan, like, yeah, how much have you planned for
Speaker 2: your children today? It's nineteen eighty one, Yeah, how much
Speaker 2: of you planned?
Speaker 1: Can you add anything in?
Speaker 4: Here's my mother's plan, open refrigerator, wet, half chopped in
Speaker 4: half tofu block o what a plan?
Speaker 3: No, se well it's okay. I'm not a passionate cook either.
Speaker 1: Well you can't be now.
Speaker 3: No, But it's so funny when I think about that
Speaker 3: dog packed entirely with him.
Speaker 4: I always think of that dog when someone mentions a
Speaker 4: kur ducan or kur ducan, Oh yeah, which is an
Speaker 4: animal shoved? And I'm just thinking of dog meat on
Speaker 4: the outside of pig meat. Yes, yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 4: know that dog was uncomfortable, but if an airplane had crashed,
Speaker 4: and I know I bring up cannibalism a.
Speaker 1: Lot, that would have been the perfect dog to eat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Just I'm sorry, your man's best friend and
Speaker 4: I've loved you forever.
Speaker 3: But there's ham inside you.
Speaker 1: Your your croakeness, your dog.
Speaker 3: What is that?
Speaker 1: That's not like French sandwich? Oh yeah, ham and cheese.
Speaker 4: Okay, I knew what that was, and that's why I
Speaker 4: am just laughing at the joke. Now, No, I don't,
Speaker 4: I know, No, everyone knows that my fake laugh sounds
Speaker 4: exactly like myn genuine laugh.
Speaker 1: Also, they know you can't speak French.
Speaker 5: I listen.
Speaker 3: We can't all be like our last guest Reggie Watt.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, multi lingual.
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably throws down a book or two every now
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 3: Sure, there are.
Speaker 4: Certain things that I'm ashamed of, and taking two full
Speaker 4: years of Spanish and letting it all disappear like a
Speaker 4: tsunami ghost is one of them.
Speaker 2: Well, but Reggie Watts was an Air Force brat, so
Speaker 2: he moved to several different countries. Like I think he
Speaker 2: was acclimated to speaking other languages from childhood, whereas you
Speaker 2: were acclimated to half a block of wet tofu.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I had. That was my muscle memory.
Speaker 4: But then later in college and my passion with Spanish
Speaker 4: was fulfilling a structural systems requirement.
Speaker 3: It was either that or statistics.
Speaker 4: I was in a math class taught by an army
Speaker 4: general I'm not kidding. So all this totistics somehow were
Speaker 4: geared towards military things, and we had to make charts
Speaker 4: using a ruler. He didn't like calculators. He was the
Speaker 4: most old school Jesus military math teacher, like the worst
Speaker 4: class ever. Like you know how every Civics course in
Speaker 4: high school was taught by a wrestling coach or I taught.
Speaker 4: I got world history and government classes from wrestling coaches
Speaker 4: and football coaches yep. And I'm not sure why, but
Speaker 4: this was like a military math class. And I didn't
Speaker 4: want to buy the book, that's how little I respected
Speaker 4: the content. So I would get the book from the library,
Speaker 4: but it had been updated, so the page numbers progressively
Speaker 4: were off, Like by the end of the book, I
Speaker 4: was like to see where everyone else was on. Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm twenty pages before you because they learned more about.
Speaker 3: This math whatever.
Speaker 4: Anyway, I knew I wouldn't pass, and so I went
Speaker 4: into Spanish.
Speaker 3: That fulfilled that requirement, which.
Speaker 1: So it was almost it's like a It was.
Speaker 2: A move out of desperation instead of passion for the language.
Speaker 4: Right, but in order to you know, college is it's
Speaker 4: not easy. It wasn't for me. And to pass Spanish
Speaker 4: I did have to learn and write it and understand
Speaker 4: it when spoken. And the fact that I went to
Speaker 4: Costa Rica and I didn't understand anything. Although after ten
Speaker 4: days there, and this was a decade ago or more, it.
Speaker 3: Was starting to come back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just conversationally they should have asked you where the
Speaker 2: library was.
Speaker 1: Then you would have been, oh, I.
Speaker 3: Hope that's not a dance club to car log guitara.
Speaker 4: Ouns of pazzos, this my bonitas, my fail. I So
Speaker 4: what I said is play guitar, your cat's ugly, my
Speaker 4: shoes are beautiful.
Speaker 3: That's all I got.
Speaker 4: What you retained, Yeah, yeah, that's all I retained.
Speaker 2: I mean when I was in Italy and I'd literally
Speaker 2: taken like three rounds of Babel and then would ignore
Speaker 2: every prompt when the Babbel's like learn a new word today,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, fuck yourself, which why? And so
Speaker 2: when we were there, I had that like I wanted
Speaker 2: to be able to communicate so badly it was embarrassing
Speaker 2: to me. And then I'm like, well that's a really
Speaker 2: good like impetus to learn being kind of humiliated and
Speaker 2: needing to cover right, you know. I started picking up
Speaker 2: on context clues very quickly and like absorbing it because oh,
Speaker 2: oh it's and I ran a yellow around the block.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll go around the block. That it was your idea.
Speaker 4: I'm repeating it.
Speaker 2: As if to them you're confirming, like the co pilot
Speaker 2: on a plane yes, and I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: But it's one that doesn't I'm just that inflatable one
Speaker 4: because I'm not doing much.
Speaker 1: The dirty one from airplane.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's not where an air nozzle goes.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a snob.
Speaker 2: But when we recorded, we just recorded with Reggie Wats
Speaker 2: yesterday listener, So this is why we're kind of talking
Speaker 2: about it a lot. But to be driving around Burbank
Speaker 2: instead of Central Los Angeles.
Speaker 5: It's so nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just love this town.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: At the end of the podcast, when we saw the
Speaker 4: man was six tears on his face, it isn't because
Speaker 4: he's a professional clown for children. No, And there's not
Speaker 4: a lot of tears on faces over here, tattoos of them.
Speaker 2: There's more of like this is where all the guys
Speaker 2: who do the lights for Two and a half Men live.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of crew people, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: union members and.
Speaker 2: People who have made a good living with a great trade.
Speaker 3: That kind of shit doing props for Hugh Laurie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how Cane doesn't show up on set by itself?
Speaker 3: I always confused. I'm thinking of Chuck Lory.
Speaker 4: Oh, he's the two and a half man guy right, yep, okay,
Speaker 4: But Hugh Laurie's great.
Speaker 2: But Hugh Lori is nothing to shake a cane out
Speaker 2: when now have to make a left turn on this weird.
Speaker 4: It's okay, it's okay. It's a red arrow. That's that's reassuring.
Speaker 4: That means it's about to be a green arrow.
Speaker 1: That's true. It's controlled.
Speaker 3: See, I am doing some co piloting. You are for real,
Speaker 3: Hugh Laurie.
Speaker 4: When I got my tonsils, I think I mentioned this
Speaker 4: the anesthesiologist who said, oh, stand up comedies, what what's
Speaker 4: that like? And he was looking into my eyes as
Speaker 4: he put the needle in my arm and hit a nerve.
Speaker 4: He pulled a real house. You're a loose cannon? Are
Speaker 4: you a real doctor? And he looked like howse? But
Speaker 4: I didn't have the chance to tell him because it
Speaker 4: was so much pain, and then I was out, so
Speaker 4: the needle was in that nerve the whole surgery.
Speaker 3: Anyway, he is great, and if you if you.
Speaker 4: Ever do some youtubing, look up Hugh Laurie and his
Speaker 4: his you know, British sketch comedy, because he was like
Speaker 4: a bit of Fry.
Speaker 5: And Laurie a bit of Fry and Laurie.
Speaker 3: Mm hm, that is what it is.
Speaker 1: I know called Yes, I.
Speaker 4: Thought you were saying when people go to YouTube, they
Speaker 4: should check out a bit of Fry and Laurie like
Speaker 4: you're saying, No, the portion they should take in.
Speaker 2: It's just a bit anything that might be on the Acorn,
Speaker 2: BBC or BritBox channel. I'm going to know it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's why I spend all my time. That's like my skateboarding.
Speaker 4: Yeah, skateboarding is my skateboarding, but so is comedy and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, fast and furious drifting.
Speaker 3: Footage.
Speaker 1: Oh, not doing it?
Speaker 3: No, No, I stay clear. I stay clear.
Speaker 4: You know when they block off an intersection and then people.
Speaker 4: I do not know what I looked up. Maybe I
Speaker 4: was looking for a steering wheel cover. I don't know
Speaker 4: what it is that made my phone think that I
Speaker 4: am interested in that, But my algorithm shows me street
Speaker 4: drifting every other video. I don't know how to undo
Speaker 4: it or tell my phone this actually is an interest
Speaker 4: in mine. Do you know what I should do?
Speaker 1: Maybe say it out loud?
Speaker 3: Okay, Siri, Tom Cruise's daughter, are you lessening?
Speaker 1: Alexa? Stop it Alexa, Siri, knock it off.
Speaker 4: You're not getting dinner unless you have some in your
Speaker 4: refrigerated fanny pack. I've just blurted that out, and I
Speaker 4: think it's actually a good invention.
Speaker 2: Uh, how would you refrigerate it?
Speaker 4: It has coils, it has a small it's really essentially
Speaker 4: a small refrigerator, but rather than in a box of metal,
Speaker 4: it's cloth and it's a strap and you wear it
Speaker 4: around your waist.
Speaker 5: Okay, it's batteries.
Speaker 3: How are we okay?
Speaker 4: Battery sharks eight?
Speaker 3: Who's seventy percent? Usual? Yell percentages at them? Right? I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: I've only watched that like part of that show, and
Speaker 2: it was two women who were designing jewelry and they
Speaker 2: were sisters and they'd both been in the army, and
Speaker 2: somehow they thought both of them being in the army
Speaker 2: made that jewelry more appealing. Oh, and I was like,
Speaker 2: this hurts my feelings because I don't this is like
Speaker 2: one of those things where we were like they nobody.
Speaker 1: Believed in it. Yeah, it's just like that's and this
Speaker 1: is being televised.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I hate it when when someone actually has a very
Speaker 4: bad idea, it hurts my feelings, Like when you.
Speaker 3: Drive by a.
Speaker 4: Bad business idea. That's closing pants for cats. Oh there
Speaker 4: she is waiting, looking super cool. Those are cool glasses.
Speaker 4: They look like they're made of marshmallows.
Speaker 5: Hi ros. I didn't know if it was you.
Speaker 3: Hi.
Speaker 1: Oh ship up?
Speaker 3: You look cool?
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, yeah you.
Speaker 4: I thought at first your sunglasses were made entirely of
Speaker 4: mushrooms or marshmallows.
Speaker 3: Mushrooms?
Speaker 5: Have you? Did you eat a mushroom?
Speaker 3: That? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that sweet and delicious mushroom like on us some more. O.
Speaker 5: This car smells so new, does it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: It's nice because we did have a chicken grease spill
Speaker 2: last night, and so I was afraid it was.
Speaker 1: Gonna smell like that.
Speaker 3: Don't worry. It was in my seat.
Speaker 5: Oh where where'd you get chicken grease from?
Speaker 1: It was chicken too, or I got the chicken. I
Speaker 1: got the grease.
Speaker 2: It was in a to go box that was I
Speaker 2: mishandled basically and then just.
Speaker 1: Covered a little congealed pile.
Speaker 6: Of chick and Greece and Chris's seat This morning, Yeah,
Speaker 6: I had a friend, do you kind of uh make
Speaker 6: breakfast of some sort of crease stain on my seat
Speaker 6: that was there for like a couple of weeks and
Speaker 6: I forgot about it and we.
Speaker 5: Just got it scrubbed out. So everything's going right over here.
Speaker 1: I love to hear a victory story right off the bat.
Speaker 3: How is everyone Good's terrific? Good?
Speaker 1: How are you.
Speaker 5: Well? I'm pretty great. I was just listening to some
Speaker 5: Cheryl Crow and all I want to do is I
Speaker 5: have some fun?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 7: Have you just rediscovered Cheryl Crow or it's like for
Speaker 7: some reason, I just haven't listened to Cheryl Crow in
Speaker 7: a minute, and then went to you.
Speaker 5: Know, Cheryl Crow and some of the music apps, and
Speaker 5: then before I know it, I'm you know, I have
Speaker 5: a feeling I'm not the only one wants to have
Speaker 5: some fun.
Speaker 4: But if you go on random, eventually her country duet
Speaker 4: with Kid Rock's gonna come on.
Speaker 5: That is one that I skipped.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well we all make weird decisions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Cheryl and it's rude to ask
Speaker 2: you so.
Speaker 1: And I was going to but I won't.
Speaker 2: How old you were when the og Cheryl Crow album
Speaker 2: came out, because it was when I first moved to
Speaker 2: LA And truly it was like every billboard, it was
Speaker 2: on every radio station because it was like the early nineties.
Speaker 2: It was so pervasive and kind of like, you know,
Speaker 2: as a young rebel, I had to I.
Speaker 5: Wonder how Angeline felt about that.
Speaker 1: She was getting serious serious.
Speaker 5: I'm sure any time you bring up Cheryl Crow to
Speaker 5: her it's a sore spot.
Speaker 4: Yes, well, I've always been confronted by the fact that
Speaker 4: the sun does not come up.
Speaker 3: Over Santa Monica ble of her.
Speaker 4: I guess so, I mean it would have to be
Speaker 4: running east west right.
Speaker 5: Do you guys ever listen to Cheryl? Do you ever
Speaker 5: ever put on a little Cheryl? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good stuff.
Speaker 5: She's a really good songwriter.
Speaker 1: She's truly unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And if you've ever seen her live, she is album
Speaker 2: perfect sounding and playing when she re live, you can't.
Speaker 3: I always appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: I can't remember where I saw her, but I kept going,
Speaker 2: is she lip syncing?
Speaker 1: This is so?
Speaker 2: She's not Queen with a weird perm wig on?
Speaker 3: That place looks fun. There's a saloon with Oh.
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you that place is not fun. No,
Speaker 5: it is not.
Speaker 3: You've been there.
Speaker 5: No, but I've read the papers and the place that
Speaker 5: had gun tights. No, no vaccine fights.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Wow, they refused to shut down during COVID, and so
Speaker 5: the city shut them down.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then it turned into protests and a yeah rallies
Speaker 5: up and down the street.
Speaker 4: Everyone protesting dressed like a cowboy because it's it's I
Speaker 4: think it's hilarious that that's a business in Burbank made
Speaker 4: to look like an old like they do reenactments.
Speaker 3: I always want to be a cowboy.
Speaker 4: Gunfight reenactor, and it's my job every Wednesday to pretend
Speaker 4: to get shot and fall into a horse trough.
Speaker 5: Don't you have a story about getting bit by a
Speaker 5: scorpion or something? Thank you? No, I know I've been
Speaker 5: listening to the show for years and you just proved
Speaker 5: it and I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Anyway, the year was two thousand. Uh, I will not
Speaker 3: talk about that. I brought my cat.
Speaker 4: The cat had feelie what if I just did the
Speaker 4: greatest chance of everything on sentenach for it? But you're right,
Speaker 4: that did still my childhood desire to be in a
Speaker 4: Western reenactment.
Speaker 5: Yes, this Burbank, particularly this street is the I think
Speaker 5: the most interesting street in Los Angeles. Yes, this, We're
Speaker 5: driving to Magnolia Boulevard right now. And this is where
Speaker 5: you will find weird like the weirdest weirdos in the
Speaker 5: best way yep. And you'll find the gun people. For
Speaker 5: some reason, there's like three or four guns.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of gun stores.
Speaker 2: Wait a second, I'm so sorry, but is that Jojo
Speaker 2: Seawas studio?
Speaker 5: That is indeed, Jojo was studio one time as a
Speaker 5: car parked out front that had pictures of her like
Speaker 5: as part of the paint job. It was just like
Speaker 5: pictures everywhere of her.
Speaker 2: And so is it like her dance or her like
Speaker 2: what kind of studio you know?
Speaker 5: I can't I can't answer that question for you, but
Speaker 5: I have a question. There's Hollywolf dog groom.
Speaker 4: I love any all excuse it with any grooming, not.
Speaker 5: To be confused with the one that I take my
Speaker 5: dog too, which is also on the street. It's called
Speaker 5: Pimp My Pooch.
Speaker 3: Oh I like it.
Speaker 4: The one in my hometown is called Cats over Broadway,
Speaker 4: and there's like a film reel and cat silhouettes of
Speaker 4: cats with little top hats and it's everything everything.
Speaker 2: So it's basically saying like, if you bring your cat here,
Speaker 2: your cat will look like a Broadway stay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, your cat's ready for stage, not film, though
Speaker 4: they put little tap shoes on their paws.
Speaker 2: I just the only reason I had that Joe Jesse
Speaker 2: was studio gave me such pauses.
Speaker 3: Because I thank you.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to explain myself.
Speaker 2: One time, when we were on vacation in Hawaii, we
Speaker 2: went to a bar and I drank my ties and
Speaker 2: I basically never drank, but I did it on vacation.
Speaker 2: And when I came home, I went to bed, and
Speaker 2: then when I woke up in the morning, I realized
Speaker 2: I had tweeted something, and when I looked at it,
Speaker 2: it was I retweeted a video of Jojo Seewa dancing
Speaker 2: with like this really amazing. I think he was a
Speaker 2: choreographer and they were doing all this crazy, really hard fast,
Speaker 2: you know, like high level dancing, and I retweeted it
Speaker 2: and wrote something along the lines of like in your face,
Speaker 2: and I don't I didn't know who she was. It's
Speaker 2: not like I was a fan or even like, oh
Speaker 2: I get it or anything. It was like I had
Speaker 2: accidentally just done this weird thing, like drunkenly and went
Speaker 2: to sleep.
Speaker 3: And whose face whose face was it? In?
Speaker 1: I'm not I think I was just like writing something dumb.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I for our listeners, and
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm one of them.
Speaker 3: Who's Jojo Siwa?
Speaker 1: Oh Jojo? See? What is a Well? Actually I don't
Speaker 1: really know, but.
Speaker 5: You know, I just know context clues that I've gathered, Right,
Speaker 5: what are your context clues? Okay, she was on the
Speaker 5: show Dance Moms. Pretty sure she's an out lesbian. She
Speaker 5: loves a tight ponytail, and I believe since she was
Speaker 5: on Dance Moms, she's not one of the moms, which
Speaker 5: makes me think she's one of the dance girls.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing I knew about her
Speaker 2: was because I also think she became like a YouTube
Speaker 2: like influencer, Okay, because I basically saw her like my
Speaker 2: niece Nora referenced her when she was like seven years
Speaker 2: old one time. But I didn't have any kind of
Speaker 2: idea of what the conversation was. I was just like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is this is entertainment for children that I have
Speaker 2: absolutely no idea about it.
Speaker 4: It's such a weird time where there's famous people and
Speaker 4: when you know their names and none of us can
Speaker 4: pinpoint why we know them, and.
Speaker 1: They don't start.
Speaker 2: It's not like oh Jojo Siwa was the little sister
Speaker 2: on Happy Days, so that we all know what we're
Speaker 2: talking about. It truly is like they're from a reality show,
Speaker 2: but they're the ones the fans liked and then they
Speaker 2: did this thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, she was a good dancer.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I like last night there was a
Speaker 4: line at the Echo that was so I've never seen
Speaker 4: a longer line and it said it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: I had to google who it was.
Speaker 4: It was someone's name that I didn't retain, but it
Speaker 4: was I had to read page and after page, and
Speaker 4: it was just a kid that got wildly popular after
Speaker 4: a viral TikTok oh.
Speaker 5: It's such an era where there's just like so many
Speaker 5: people that are technically considered famous. Like it's not the
Speaker 5: old days of three channels. I always think about like
Speaker 5: how people seventies and before how famous they were, like
Speaker 5: they were so famous. Yeah, and now, I mean it's
Speaker 5: good in a lot of ways that there's like more
Speaker 5: spread out for everyone to enjoy, but it's not as
Speaker 5: much of a communal collective thing where we all know
Speaker 5: the same references. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's almost like that's how the like the
Speaker 2: super fan stand culture, it's almost like you have to
Speaker 2: go represent the person, like this is who I believe
Speaker 2: in and you should too. It almost feels like the
Speaker 2: vibe because it's like, right, I need that energy because
Speaker 2: other than that, I don't know who any of these
Speaker 2: people are. And I wouldn't like the idea that my
Speaker 2: niece watched YouTube like it was TV, like prefer that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's so different than anything I'm used to where it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's she doesn't want to come and sit. I mean
Speaker 2: she would eventually like watch sitcoms with my sister or whatever,
Speaker 2: but ultimately she's in her room watching YouTube like it
Speaker 2: is TV.
Speaker 5: I know, I was talking to someone today. I always
Speaker 5: think the past few years that like, is stand up
Speaker 5: gonna go away? Like as you know, TikTok and stuff
Speaker 5: takes over? And because I wonder, because I don't see
Speaker 5: as many comedians when I do shows that are like,
Speaker 5: oh this nineteen year old just moved to town, Like
Speaker 5: I'm not seeing as many like super young.
Speaker 3: It's just the old old people like me sticking it out.
Speaker 5: Well me so yea, But I think like maybe it will.
Speaker 5: I mean I don't know, the audiences, all kinds of
Speaker 5: people come, but I'm like, maybe it will be something
Speaker 5: where like the audiences get older and you know, it's
Speaker 5: like I always say, like, what's wrong with being the Eagles?
Speaker 5: You know, like they can play for people your age
Speaker 5: and if younger people are into it, they can show up.
Speaker 5: But like, like, I don't want to be sitting here
Speaker 5: being like, so, kids, what are we talking about? Like
Speaker 5: I don't care. I'd rather just talk to my people
Speaker 5: my age.
Speaker 1: I are real.
Speaker 3: I like to think that I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm only saying it get the audiences get better, and
Speaker 4: I love people getting interested in stand up and it's
Speaker 4: the one thing that's impossible to replace because I one
Speaker 4: time I went in I don't know whose idea it was,
Speaker 4: but we put on ball a ball suit and they
Speaker 4: were making holograms of us so they could have us
Speaker 4: do stand up project it anywhere, and I'm like, this
Speaker 4: is a terrible idea, but I'll take your money. Weird
Speaker 4: guy with a yellow Lamborghini and I knew it wouldn't work.
Speaker 4: That's as close as they've gotten. Like it was after
Speaker 4: the everyone was freaking out because Tupac was in hologram
Speaker 4: form was at Coachella or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was back then.
Speaker 4: And that was such a bad idea that I decided
Speaker 4: that day that.
Speaker 3: Nothing could ever replace live stand up.
Speaker 4: But you're thinking more, will it just not be interesting
Speaker 4: to people anymore?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: But getting proven wrong is the good thing by like
Speaker 5: seeing well at least the audiences are definitely like, there's
Speaker 5: so many audiences and so many shows that I have
Speaker 5: done that I'm like really excited, But I just don't
Speaker 5: see as many like twenty one year old comedians or
Speaker 5: like I think they just go to TikTok now, Right.
Speaker 4: The weird thing that I'm seeing from short attention span,
Speaker 4: TikTok and everything is this trend of crowd work because
Speaker 4: people don't want to burn their material. Yeah, audiences now
Speaker 4: expect they're back to being scared to sit in the
Speaker 4: front row or they heckle, and that's like a new
Speaker 4: thing that I've seen that.
Speaker 5: And I'm just not good enough at improv. I believe
Speaker 5: I talked about this last time I was here. I
Speaker 5: did take an improv class over the pandemic and.
Speaker 1: Oh right, your zoom improv.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I sometimes will be up on stage and
Speaker 5: I'm like, I can do this, like somebody says something
Speaker 5: in the audience, I'm like, yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, what what would you like?
Speaker 3: Yeah that I don't mind.
Speaker 4: It's asking for it, which inevitably means, hey, what do
Speaker 4: you do for a living? Or how long have you
Speaker 4: two been together? I will never ask that ever.
Speaker 3: I refuse to.
Speaker 5: Well, isn't that the worst?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 5: Are you guys on a date and they are.
Speaker 4: We I don't know, Yeah, potentially ruining what they had
Speaker 4: blossoming because you confronted them about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, where are we going?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: I thought we'd go to the Starbucks drive through?
Speaker 5: Okay, right.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 4: It's it's kind of a tradition that we haven't been
Speaker 4: able to engage in.
Speaker 1: Cars.
Speaker 3: I feel like, no, it's been a while.
Speaker 5: The gift cards, Yeah we did.
Speaker 1: We did have a bunch of gift cards for a while.
Speaker 5: Well, now that we're back in the car, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I actually brought my own jug here, so I'm good.
Speaker 1: Do you need anything from the bakery?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Perhaps a birthday cake pop? No, I'm okay, I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna make people listen to me chomp on a cake pop.
Speaker 4: Can we confirm that a cheese Danish isn't actually cheese.
Speaker 4: Ask it's some cream cheese, okay, but sweetened.
Speaker 3: Look at that funny bird, a funny bird? Are you injured?
Speaker 3: Are you just chilling?
Speaker 2: He looks like he's chilling and watching people go through
Speaker 2: the dry Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't see it.
Speaker 3: It's a little bird on the menu, just like.
Speaker 5: Look at a funny bird.
Speaker 3: Look at you.
Speaker 4: I really like his belly's hanging over the edge like
Speaker 4: you just had a big yeah.
Speaker 2: I wonder if he gets if he's like the Starbucks
Speaker 2: bird that like picks up the danishes people throw out
Speaker 2: of their car way.
Speaker 4: I wonder if we rolled down the window, he'd go like,
Speaker 4: don't forget the kick.
Speaker 5: He's the one that know he doesn't want to tell
Speaker 5: all his bird friends that this is where you hang out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Scraps pretends he's at work, but he's here.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's why that bird's so interesting to me, because
Speaker 4: it's just a lone bird chilling and staring.
Speaker 2: He was staring at it. That's what caught my attention.
Speaker 2: I was like, is this where I'm supposed to order?
Speaker 2: And then I looked up as if he was going
Speaker 2: to tell me yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's why I freaked out years ago and
Speaker 4: talked about turtle eye contact.
Speaker 3: Birds will do that too.
Speaker 4: They'll give you a side eye and it's aimed right
Speaker 4: at you and I I don't know why.
Speaker 5: Wait, what's turtle eye contact?
Speaker 3: Turtles?
Speaker 1: You said you listened to the show right.
Speaker 4: Now When I first moved to my neighborhood in Echo Park.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of turtles in that lake. And uh
Speaker 4: oh yeah, and they might be tortoises. I love them
Speaker 4: both equally.
Speaker 5: Well, if they're in the water, they're probably turtles.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think you're right, because I follow more tortoises than
Speaker 5: humans on Instagram.
Speaker 3: Oh so you're into them ULTI I'm very into tortoises. Hi.
Speaker 1: Can I get a tall one pump hot mocha?
Speaker 3: All have a Grandis ice coffee with some almond milk.
Speaker 1: Lease? Oh that's going to be it.
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 5: Yes, sorry, I was just talking about how much I
Speaker 5: love tortoises. My dream is to have a backyard filled
Speaker 5: with tortoises.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 5: I want that more than anything in the world.
Speaker 1: I think you say, filled with how many.
Speaker 5: Do you mean to the brim capacity? Well, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I imagine that they'll get freaky deeky and multiply. But
Speaker 5: I just want lots of them. I just find them
Speaker 5: so majestic. They're not bothered by anything. They're so peaceful. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I just loved it so much.
Speaker 4: It's the demeanor more than the eyes. Hey, it's all
Speaker 4: about me. They're looking at me. I like the way
Speaker 4: they carry them.
Speaker 5: The weird thing is turtles don't do it for me.
Speaker 5: It's tortoises.
Speaker 1: It's the big ones.
Speaker 5: No like the water. I don't like water. I'm not
Speaker 5: like the ones that swim around with the web feet.
Speaker 5: It's not that sea turtles. Yeah, well I do like
Speaker 5: the sea turtle.
Speaker 3: But you know, it feels like you don't.
Speaker 5: I know, I follow so many tortoise accounts it's not
Speaker 5: even funny. Yeah yeah, my whole feed is just tortoises
Speaker 5: eating cucumbers and.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yes, heads, I get it. I get you
Speaker 4: wanting them to be dry. Do you have any childhood
Speaker 4: experiences where you got to ride on a giant tortoise
Speaker 4: like a horse turtle rather, No.
Speaker 5: I can't say I ever did that.
Speaker 4: I did, and they could they can actually move. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it was in San Diego in the backyard. Had
Speaker 4: a cave system for this giant, one hundred year old
Speaker 4: huge turtle.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's the thing. If you do get a
Speaker 2: backyard full of them, you'll have them for so long.
Speaker 5: Oh they live, they'll be and my will. Yeah, there'll
Speaker 5: be someone else problem.
Speaker 4: Every year, so many tortoises and parrots are being bequeathed
Speaker 4: exactly to some college student. It's like my grandma gave
Speaker 4: me an old bird. What cut to a script that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be a good movie written by me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so, I mean, kids, I feel like I won't,
Speaker 5: you know, end up looking too hard for a tortoise.
Speaker 5: I just you know, ask around. Anyone's grandma got a tortoise?
Speaker 2: Yeah, get a rescue foundations situation.
Speaker 5: I want and I want like little like Pomeranians that
Speaker 5: like ride on the back like this. That's what I want.
Speaker 5: I want to wake up in the morning with my
Speaker 5: coffee and look out my backyard and see tortoises with
Speaker 5: little Pomeranians sitting on top of Yeah.
Speaker 4: I do like the idea of some mutual symbiotic ride
Speaker 4: me backyard relationship. All right, two animals. Yeah, no, I
Speaker 4: just stand in the corner and watch. I'll be over
Speaker 4: here behind this, but.
Speaker 5: I want to go back to stand up for a time.
Speaker 5: Let's do it, because I've been doing a lot of
Speaker 5: it lately and I've just been really into it lately.
Speaker 1: Has it been going good?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I've just been having fun. Yeah, Like
Speaker 5: I don't know, I've just been excited about a lot
Speaker 5: of things that I've been talking about. Well, it's also
Speaker 5: because I wasn't I haven't been talking about ghosts much
Speaker 5: and I kind of keep the ghosts and the stand
Speaker 5: up like separate, and so then I can't. It gave
Speaker 5: me a second to like work on some stand ups,
Speaker 5: and then I got really excited about stand up material.
Speaker 5: And I think it was because I have like a
Speaker 5: couple of months off from the ghosts And well, how
Speaker 5: long have you guys? When did you guys start doing stand.
Speaker 3: Up in the in the very beginning?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So long? Twenty three years.
Speaker 1: Ago, nineteen ninety thirty three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 5: I started when I was twenty what wait, okay, so Chris,
Speaker 5: you started in what the year two thousand?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 5: Was this in Austin? It was for Missoula.
Speaker 4: I mean, I yeah, that's so yeah, And I knew
Speaker 4: when I was I was doing I was in an
Speaker 4: improv group and I was enjoying that. But I moved
Speaker 4: there knowing that was that there was a scene there,
Speaker 4: and I checked out no other scene.
Speaker 3: I just knew that there was one there. That's for
Speaker 3: my coffee.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, some five dollars.
Speaker 3: It's wrankling, ripped. Isn't that why you don't like?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 3: Looks counterfeit. It's stuff like a tissue.
Speaker 4: Do you think you'll bring back? Could you go to
Speaker 4: the improv lab and bring back your show?
Speaker 5: I don't like being responsible, Yeah for people, Oh this
Speaker 5: person's running late and you got to find someone to Yeah.
Speaker 5: I have canceled also, and I feel like I deserve
Speaker 5: people to cancel on me when I'm in charge right right,
Speaker 5: And I just don't. I just don't want to deal
Speaker 5: with that. It's so stressful.
Speaker 4: I have never done it. I've never been responsible for
Speaker 4: a show. It's too much for me.
Speaker 5: I feel like when I'm hosting and producing or whatever,
Speaker 5: the last thing I'm thinking about is the performing. Yes,
Speaker 5: and that's like, that's not fun for me.
Speaker 2: So it becomes yeah, becomes when April and I had
Speaker 2: that show at the improv lab. It was so fun
Speaker 2: to have something that like we rely on, that we
Speaker 2: knew we were going to do. We would see all
Speaker 2: the people we liked, we would have a fun night,
Speaker 2: all those things.
Speaker 3: That was good times.
Speaker 2: But but I never wrote anything. I thought it would
Speaker 2: make me write new material. And it was like the
Speaker 2: opposite where I started treating it like a history assignment
Speaker 2: that I didn't want to get done.
Speaker 1: It was like, what am I doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I'm just producing. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Are you doing it anywhere regularly? No?
Speaker 4: I mean it's kind of dumb the question, because I
Speaker 4: don't go anywhere regularly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not regular I don't know why I never crossed
Speaker 5: paths with you. Are you like on the road a lot?
Speaker 4: Or I've started doing like a like kind of the
Speaker 4: Austin Just kidding.
Speaker 3: No, I.
Speaker 4: Am getting better about performing in town, but for a
Speaker 4: while I was lazily waiting until I was out of town.
Speaker 5: I get it. I just think it's like a fun
Speaker 5: time right now, Like I just think there's a lot show.
Speaker 2: Well and fun and I feel like I was just
Speaker 2: listening to this thing because about the rise of the
Speaker 2: fascist Christian nationalists in this country.
Speaker 3: And I jokingly just brought that up. Did you hear
Speaker 3: me say I didn't know I backed out of my
Speaker 3: own show the all right, yes jokes.
Speaker 2: But they were talking about the reason, like they're trying
Speaker 2: to figure out like what's going on aside from the
Speaker 2: political action, Like what's going on why people?
Speaker 1: And it's this idea.
Speaker 2: It's called something like group effervescence, where when you're in
Speaker 2: a crowd and like a singular thing happens and everyone
Speaker 2: experiences it together. There's it's why people love concerts, and
Speaker 2: it's why like it's why Trump people started going to
Speaker 2: all those rallies. It's this unification that we as humans
Speaker 2: need because it's like this bonding and this social thing.
Speaker 2: And I think comedy is crucial to that for for
Speaker 2: like certain people in for sorry, but smart people, because
Speaker 2: it's like going and having smart people go, here's some
Speaker 2: new thoughts, not the same old shit you're hearing over
Speaker 2: and over again in like commercials or conversations about the
Speaker 2: water cooler. Here's this crazy thing you've never put together before,
Speaker 2: and the crowd is like, fuck yeah, this is I
Speaker 2: love this and everyone's having this like unified experience. So
Speaker 2: that's my theory of why, even though it's going to
Speaker 2: change because everything always does comedy and that live performing will.
Speaker 1: Always be a thing.
Speaker 3: I think you're right. We can rest asired, and don't worry.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to ask you when we're going to
Speaker 5: see you perform.
Speaker 3: Oh, there has been talks.
Speaker 5: I only know every single word, even the banter to
Speaker 5: your liirl. Yeah, you guys know, I'm like, this is
Speaker 5: my fan fan club thing. I want to be here.
Speaker 5: I'm like the biggest fan of both of you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Wait, So nineteen ninety very big year for me. I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna say why, but it was least.
Speaker 1: Do not tell me you were born in nineteen.
Speaker 5: Ninety what that was in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I started in Sacramento, but moved to San Francisco
Speaker 2: almost immediately after.
Speaker 5: Okay, and who was doing a stand up in San
Speaker 5: Francisco in nineteen ninety ish.
Speaker 2: The headliners were like Greg Proops, Mark Marin.
Speaker 3: The Bulldog comedy, Bobby Slaty Slate.
Speaker 2: Was the punchline that, yeah, she knows comedy.
Speaker 1: The pit Bull was there.
Speaker 3: I believe were Pitbull there.
Speaker 2: I know she was in Florida and of course worldwide.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a ton of asing people and then
Speaker 1: there was like.
Speaker 5: Was Joey Gladstone there?
Speaker 1: No, I mean not that I knew. Wait, not that
Speaker 1: I would acknowledge you.
Speaker 5: Do you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Of the ice Cream glad show.
Speaker 5: No, but I'm telling you there's like a millennial or
Speaker 5: two that thinks I just said the funniest thing in
Speaker 5: the world. Oh No, Joey Gladstone was Dave Coolier's character.
Speaker 5: I'm full and he was a San Francisco stand up comedy.
Speaker 3: That's so funny.
Speaker 4: Please explain it to anyone with a false hip in
Speaker 4: the car that I didn't know it was a comic
Speaker 4: on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, was cut it out, but there was the kids catchphrase.
Speaker 3: She was just making her dad he was the uncle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Uncle Joey is responsible for that one, which my
Speaker 5: mind was blown when I moved here and realized, like,
Speaker 5: oh wait, they didn't shoot that in San Francisco, Like
Speaker 5: they didn't even like ever, Probably go to San like
Speaker 5: they did the opening credits there. Yeah, and then everything
Speaker 5: else is probably at like Warner Brothers or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they were here in Burbank probably probably.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's just one establishing shot of a house near
Speaker 4: Dolores Park.
Speaker 5: Or because I was in San Francisco like a couple
Speaker 5: of years back, and I went to some like live
Speaker 5: music thing, and I'm like, I wonder if this is
Speaker 5: where Uncle Jesse would perform, because on the show he
Speaker 5: was a local musician.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, wait, now, whatever, it's not real real life,
Speaker 4: he was drumming for the Beach Boy.
Speaker 5: Wait did everyone on Full House?
Speaker 3: Did their characters have their real life interests?
Speaker 5: Probably, you know, I think so, except Bob Seger's character. Well,
Speaker 5: then there's also Aunt Becky, which is a turned into
Speaker 5: a different storyline in real life. But she was a
Speaker 5: newscaster with Bob Bob Sagan. Yeah, and that is what
Speaker 5: Karen watched every morning to hear the next.
Speaker 2: When I would get up and smoke a clove and
Speaker 2: stare out the window and then watch the local news
Speaker 2: that was.
Speaker 5: Called Wake Up San Francisco.
Speaker 1: But I'd be like, I don't want to.
Speaker 5: Also, Uncle Joey at one point was a Ventrillo quizt,
Speaker 5: which is another thing. Uncle Joey was Dave Coolier, Okay.
Speaker 2: Joey Gladstone, the comedian, the stand up that we were
Speaker 2: out there doing sets with.
Speaker 5: That's so funny.
Speaker 4: Thank you for explaining that because we just let it
Speaker 4: breeze by.
Speaker 2: I literally was taking I immediately picture in my head
Speaker 2: a blonde guy.
Speaker 1: That's kind of weird.
Speaker 2: Maybe my subconscious had some idea of what you were doing,
Speaker 2: but in my head I was just like younger, probably hipper.
Speaker 2: I wasn't around during the Gladstone era.
Speaker 5: Stone era. Here's the deal. I have a date. Look
Speaker 5: at this. Oh we've I forgot.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was a possibility, and we need to quickly. Okay,
Speaker 4: well let's change the subject to that.
Speaker 5: Okay, yes, let's do it. I need to. It's it
Speaker 5: became a tentative thing not that long ago. I am
Speaker 5: sort of in a Flake era a little bit, and
Speaker 5: I did tell because he was telling me like, oh,
Speaker 5: he's like in Santa Monica and then he has to
Speaker 5: drive to downtown and then has to come back over here.
Speaker 3: So he's busy all the time.
Speaker 1: Is an uber driver?
Speaker 5: No, but he does live downtown, which I'm like, I'm
Speaker 5: not going there. So I was like, do you want
Speaker 5: to do it some other time, because like, I don't
Speaker 5: want to wait for like, because he it sounds like
Speaker 5: he wants to be there later than I want to
Speaker 5: be there. Beware be at a restaurant.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you're going to arrest?
Speaker 2: Is it restaurant over here? Like we can Yeah, we
Speaker 2: can drop either if it.
Speaker 5: Yes, it is pretty close by. This is great.
Speaker 4: We're not only are we back in the car, we're
Speaker 4: actually taking you to a real.
Speaker 5: Not only that, it's my first date being single. I
Speaker 5: haven't been on a date since before the pandemic.
Speaker 3: Oh my lord, I love this flight. Can we change
Speaker 3: the podcast to that? Yes? To do you need a date?
Speaker 1: First date?
Speaker 5: And I thought I would share that with you guys, because.
Speaker 3: How do you feel? Are you nervous?
Speaker 5: Do you well? Okay? To be fair, I do think
Speaker 5: that covid changed the dating world in some ways. And
Speaker 5: one way is like, first of all, I'm not meeting
Speaker 5: anybody until I FaceTime you. Oh and so we already
Speaker 5: did a two hour FaceTime, so I kind of got
Speaker 5: a lot of that out of the way. This is
Speaker 5: when I go it went well well enough to do
Speaker 5: a tentative dinner.
Speaker 2: It was the beginning because I find FaceTime so horrifying.
Speaker 2: Every time it comes on my phone is so close
Speaker 2: to my face and it's awful. But how do you
Speaker 2: deal with Maybe this is the way I should structure
Speaker 2: this question. How do you deal with like the awkwardness
Speaker 2: of a conversation like that?
Speaker 1: Would you have any tips or tricks?
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm very big on this now. I'm just gonna
Speaker 5: be completely honest with you, guys. This is my first date,
Speaker 5: not in my home. I've had a person or two over.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. Okay, we've met, you know, and yeah,
Speaker 5: some arts and crafts or whatever it is that we
Speaker 5: did around sure, yeah, yeah, Deaco par Yes. The guy
Speaker 5: that came over, his name was Michael. He told me
Speaker 5: he had a store and his Africa and they're Christian,
Speaker 5: uncle hobby anyways, So this is how I do it. First,
Speaker 5: I talk to them until I feel like they're not creepy,
Speaker 5: Like I need to make sure you could have a conversation,
Speaker 5: like a little bit of back and forth, yeah whatever.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it takes longer. Actually, I don't allow it to
Speaker 5: take that that long. I need to make sure I like,
Speaker 5: I like going back and forth with you. And then
Speaker 5: I say, we got to hop over to FaceTime, which
Speaker 5: some of these apps just have it built in so
Speaker 5: you don't even have to like exchange your phone number.
Speaker 5: And then I mean I don't want to give it
Speaker 5: way too much because then if anyone one listening is
Speaker 5: going to be like, wait, she does that with other people.
Speaker 5: Usually I'm like, oh my god, you are real.
Speaker 3: Maybe you're fake.
Speaker 7: No, you have to say that, yeah, definitely, because you do.
Speaker 3: There is the chance that it's you're being catfished.
Speaker 5: Totally, or that I could be a catfish too.
Speaker 3: You could be a burglar, you could have a scheme.
Speaker 4: Ask if we can all be anything we want to
Speaker 4: if we put our minds to it, we could be
Speaker 4: any criminal we want.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 5: Absolutely. And I've had all kinds of experiences and I'm
Speaker 5: very picky with any of the stuff, but I've had
Speaker 5: facetimes where I'm like, it's not going past this, like nope,
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm also secretly psychic. I don't really
Speaker 5: like lead with that, but I am pretty psychic about
Speaker 5: like picking up vibes. Also back to comedy, I feel
Speaker 5: like comedians have to be like you have to be
Speaker 5: good at like reading rooms and like picking.
Speaker 3: Up on vibe.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that sort of thing, and I just am
Speaker 5: very in tune I feel with that when it comes
Speaker 5: to people living people, I'm not like a medium. I
Speaker 5: can't predict anything. I'm not gonna like, I can't charge
Speaker 5: anyone for it.
Speaker 3: But that's a shame. I know.
Speaker 5: I am definitely like I can just tell if I'm like, okay,
Speaker 5: you're creepy or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So this guy has passed a two hour FaceTime. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: That's a long FaceTime. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So and after dinner with Bowling, I don't even know.
Speaker 4: That's the heart of my whole life. It's been the
Speaker 4: hardest thing in the world to think of date ideas.
Speaker 5: Oh and there's Euphuria, which is a pet salon ufurry.
Speaker 5: Oh it is, and you leave looking like the girls
Speaker 5: from Euphoria, sparkles underneath your eyes. Your dog will have rhyanstone.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: This is shameless.
Speaker 5: So wait, what was the thing you asked me?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: Dates, I think this one I would just end there
Speaker 5: because I like him. Yeah, I think I think we
Speaker 5: should just take it slow.
Speaker 4: You know, when you call it quits in the FaceTime stage,
Speaker 4: are you open do you just kind of oh, I
Speaker 4: gotta go, that's my internet, just went out and unplug it,
Speaker 4: or do you say I can tell this isn't going anywhere,
Speaker 4: so goodbye? Like I cut and dry, so you don't
Speaker 4: have to worry about it anymore.
Speaker 3: Of course you don't.
Speaker 5: You're nice, No, I'm pretty honest.
Speaker 3: Well, you're still nice.
Speaker 5: I'm just kind of like, I'm not for everyone, that's
Speaker 5: for sure. I'm a specific flavor fame, but there is
Speaker 5: a man. Okay, Well, first of all, let me backtrack.
Speaker 5: Another era I'm in is my cougar era. I'm definitely
Speaker 5: talking to guys that are younger than me, and I
Speaker 5: don't know, I think like being six foot one and
Speaker 5: like a comedian and whatever, like I'm kind of like, uh,
Speaker 5: what's the word, Like, I'm kind of bossy.
Speaker 3: You have the upper hand.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of like I don't like that. And I
Speaker 5: think my comedy persona too, is definitely from a place
Speaker 5: of real life, and it's a side of me that's like, like,
Speaker 5: I've been having so much fun lately yelling at audience
Speaker 5: and just being like, I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, it is pretty cool that you're getting dropped off
Speaker 4: in this way. At least it gives you something to
Speaker 4: talk about. Oh, I got dropped off by a mobile.
Speaker 5: Podcast the sentence, and.
Speaker 1: So show cross should cover that all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I'm bossy god, and you know, sometimes these
Speaker 5: guys don't like that, and I don't blame them, but
Speaker 5: sometimes they're like.
Speaker 1: Yes, they're like hello, Hello, I like that.
Speaker 5: But so to answer your question, if the ViBe's not right,
Speaker 5: I'm just like, you know, I'm not feeling this.
Speaker 4: And so you do say that, I'm such a lamp.
Speaker 4: I'm scared to say I'm not feeling that.
Speaker 1: So what do you do?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 3: I let it go on for three or four years?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I'm definitely dating guys that are
Speaker 5: a few years younger than me, which is it's really
Speaker 5: interesting because I'm, you know, I'm millennial age, and there's
Speaker 5: people that are a few years younger than me that
Speaker 5: just have like a very different outlook, Like the their
Speaker 5: idea of like dating and gender and like all that
Speaker 5: stuff is so different than my age and older. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so in a way that's refreshing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so much better. And like, of course, I've
Speaker 5: had a lot of experiences dating guys are like my age,
Speaker 5: are older that are a little bit more like don't
Speaker 5: tell my wife, Like yeah, just like yeah, no one
Speaker 5: knows I'm here, do they don't tell my wife? A yeah, sir,
Speaker 5: their go home?
Speaker 1: Please your family, please go.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So these younger guys, which I feel, I'm it's weird
Speaker 5: because I'm not old, but they're like, there is a
Speaker 5: big difference between millennial and you know, people in their
Speaker 5: twenties mid twentiesies, Yeah, alphas or whatever. Yeah, there's just
Speaker 5: a lot more that are like, yeah, bye, I'm pan sexual,
Speaker 5: I'm whatever, I'm no big deal. So that's great. Yes,
Speaker 5: And I haven't having some with that.
Speaker 4: And that age group is rarely hiding from wives. I
Speaker 4: just like.
Speaker 3: A train robber.
Speaker 5: They all have eight wives or whatever because they're all polyamorous.
Speaker 5: But everyone's fine with it. Yeah, you know, so it's
Speaker 5: an interesting it's an interesting adjustment to talk to people
Speaker 5: that you're like, oh, wow, you don't have a problem
Speaker 5: with that. I'm like conditioned to believe that, like this
Speaker 5: thing is bad, right whatever, and they're like, well, I
Speaker 5: grew up when it wasn't and then it's it is
Speaker 5: very refreshing. Yeah. Nice, it's such a huge change. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I like them. I like that age group a lot.
Speaker 5: They keep me young.
Speaker 1: And they're possible.
Speaker 2: Sorry sir, they couldn't make a decision like that's yeah,
Speaker 2: because they're possible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess I am bossy. Well, also, like I
Speaker 5: feel like it's easy for a lot of guys on
Speaker 5: dating apps to or just anyone in general, just to
Speaker 5: kind of be disrespectful or like, you know, they don't
Speaker 5: talk to you the way that they would in real life.
Speaker 5: It's just like they just instantly are gross, you know,
Speaker 5: Like I'll just I'll encounter guys that are just like,
Speaker 5: what are you wearing right now? Yeah, and it's like
Speaker 5: can you say hi? How are you?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 5: That's how I'm bossy. That's when I'm like no. But
Speaker 5: sometimes it's like, God, you are really cute though, so
Speaker 5: I'm like, don't talk to me normal, And then if
Speaker 5: they don't, then I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, and that's also a good idea. The FaceTime gets
Speaker 4: rid of that. Oh I'm a tough guy when I'm
Speaker 4: texting or you know. That's why I've never liked about email,
Speaker 4: even if someone wants to be confronting and then all
Speaker 4: of a sudden it's like, well, I'm not going to
Speaker 4: go back and forth with email.
Speaker 3: I'm just going to call, and then.
Speaker 4: They will totally change their tune and I, oh, yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean it's like the people that write the mean
Speaker 5: comments and stuff. Yeah, okay, well it's looking like if
Speaker 5: I do hang out with them, it's going to be late.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, but I love it though.
Speaker 2: I mean, the possibility is really fun and the idea that, like,
Speaker 2: you know, there's something really about an official date that's
Speaker 2: very I realize we're all always trying to be like,
Speaker 2: no big deal, everything's low key. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: it's like, you made it past, let's just call it
Speaker 2: phase three or whatever, and now you're in phase four,
Speaker 2: which doesn't happen that often, so it's exciting.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I don't even know how I
Speaker 5: feel about if I want a date, Like that's why
Speaker 5: I'm just kind of like whatever, Like I just kind
Speaker 5: of am on the dating apps and then I don't know,
Speaker 5: sometimes someone nice pops up that I can actually have
Speaker 5: a conversation with, and I'm like, sure, why not? Yeah?
Speaker 5: So yeah, but can we at least drive by the
Speaker 5: restaurant stuck it out practice.
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding.
Speaker 5: It's here in Burbank. It's something Vegan on Riverside Drive Riverside.
Speaker 5: That was my suggestion because it's one of my favorite restaurants.
Speaker 3: Are you Vegan?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I am, but I have a real sweet tooth.
Speaker 5: And so if if you hand me a doughnut and
Speaker 5: you don't tell me what's in it, I'm not gonna ask.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not gonna be.
Speaker 5: But I don't eat meat.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sure, I actually went to.
Speaker 5: Grease, just peanut oil and stuff like that. I actually
Speaker 5: went to something vegan yesterday with Jackie Beat Jackie Bee
Speaker 5: one of the great Marry drag queen.
Speaker 2: You know, my first writing job I ever had was
Speaker 2: Jackie Beat was on the staff too true.
Speaker 5: I'm a historian of you people, I really am. I
Speaker 5: know everything about all of you.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
Speaker 7: I just thought you blurted that out, and I like
Speaker 7: the show was called it was it was a skeed show.
Speaker 3: Right, it was.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean I hang out with Jackie constantly, and
Speaker 5: I've heard so many stories about so many things that
Speaker 5: I'm like a biographer.
Speaker 1: Please say the next time you hang out with Jackie Frock.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because Jackie Beat is truly a genius in
Speaker 2: a way that like I kind of didn't understand. And
Speaker 2: it was like I would see the work they did
Speaker 2: at that show and just be like, holy.
Speaker 1: Shit, how did you think of that? But then like,
Speaker 1: have you ever seen Jackie Bete live, Like, just do
Speaker 1: a show?
Speaker 3: I have not.
Speaker 5: She's incredible. She's also a brilliant singer.
Speaker 2: Like so she plays to be Arthur in the Golden
Speaker 2: Girls show that they used to do at Cassio sell Campo.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and actually, I think it's all right if I
Speaker 5: say it. There will be a run in August at
Speaker 5: the Lyric Hyperion and I'll be playing Rose. Wow. Congratulations,
Speaker 5: I've done it in the past. It's big shoes to
Speaker 5: fill Drew DROGI. But yeah, I'll be doing it and
Speaker 5: I'm very excited.
Speaker 3: That's great, that's yeah. And where's that Larry's going to
Speaker 3: be at the lyrics? Oh, that's great.
Speaker 2: Golden Girls was one of the first things I did
Speaker 2: out of true quarantine, like when people literally weren't going
Speaker 2: anywhere anything, and that show started up again.
Speaker 1: I can't remember how it.
Speaker 2: All kind of played out, but I was like, I
Speaker 2: need to do this and I need to go be
Speaker 2: around actual people and stuff and this of the theme
Speaker 2: song at the beginning of that showing all together.
Speaker 3: It was oh, yeah, that would be great, beautiful.
Speaker 2: It really really helped me a lot out of you know,
Speaker 2: two and a half years of just like watching TV
Speaker 2: with my dog.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's that's a big I mean, that's a
Speaker 5: big part of my like queer upbringing as an adult
Speaker 5: is like working with them and doing because I've done
Speaker 5: like the Guest Star Rules with them since I don't know,
Speaker 5: twenties fourteen or fifteen or something, and I've done a
Speaker 5: bunch of them and then a bunch of other shows
Speaker 5: in that basement with the same people Jackie Bee, Cherry Vine,
Speaker 5: San Pegget or Jogi, and it's just a magical little
Speaker 5: crew of the best of the best. Really, yeah, it
Speaker 5: really is like a special.
Speaker 4: Did you do a pilot with them? That I watched?
Speaker 4: That was funny? And now I'm not remembering the plot,
Speaker 4: but I laughed a lot.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I did do a pilot with them,
Speaker 3: maybe it wasn't. Well how long the thing of the lyric?
Speaker 3: Is it like a run or do you committed to
Speaker 3: its emotion?
Speaker 5: We like about two weeks, like Thursday to Sunday, maybe
Speaker 5: eight shows or so a week gets great, So it
Speaker 5: just gets better and better.
Speaker 2: Does that mean Casito Theater is gone permanently for now? Oh,
Speaker 2: they're gonna They're gonna figure out a way to build
Speaker 2: a fire exit.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know the exact details, but
Speaker 5: I'm hopeful.
Speaker 2: I am too, because God, I love that place so much.
Speaker 2: I mean lyric I Perian is great and like there's
Speaker 2: we've all done shows and whatever, but there's something about
Speaker 2: Casitos because it is downstairs, which is very like that
Speaker 2: rat Scalar comedy room. That's like where I started to
Speaker 2: and it just is I just love it.
Speaker 5: Like the kids are in the basement play the parents. Yes,
Speaker 5: very low ceilings, which I love.
Speaker 3: I require them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Drew and Sam did that show when they were
Speaker 2: the Spiritual Leaders Drews and they were doing riffs, like
Speaker 2: naming different parts of the audience, giving them names, and
Speaker 2: at one point Sam just goes like this to like
Speaker 2: the top row of people and it's like the original
Speaker 2: cast of the sand Loot and the Funniest. It's just
Speaker 2: like that's that's how comedy is not going anywhere. Live
Speaker 2: performance isn't going anywhere. Yeah, people need that ship. It
Speaker 2: is so funny, it's so good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, anyone, I forget that. I forgot people who are
Speaker 5: listening to us. If anyone listening, uh doesn't know what
Speaker 5: we're talking about. This place Casita del Campo, and it's
Speaker 5: the Los Angeles area called Silver Lake, and it's family
Speaker 5: owned Mexican restaurant. The food is great, it is. The
Speaker 5: decor is so fun.
Speaker 3: Now you're talking. It's right down the street from y Yes, right,
Speaker 3: I love it there.
Speaker 5: It's a pink building and the most gorgeous mosaic tables
Speaker 5: and very queer but you know, open for everyone. And
Speaker 5: then in the basement there's a little theater.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's so great. It's the perfect size too, because
Speaker 1: it's what like.
Speaker 5: A hundred even last maybe seventy or something like that.
Speaker 5: I used to do my podcast live down there because
Speaker 5: they say it's haunted. Oh no really, yeah, I would
Speaker 5: have like psychics and we do, like we do boards
Speaker 5: and stuff down there and live on stage.
Speaker 2: Wait, ro Should we spend a little bit of time
Speaker 2: talking about your podcast just for the marketing aspect?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's a cross marketing congratulations, yes, being an
Speaker 4: exactly right family member, family, welcome to this.
Speaker 5: Can we talk about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because this comes out like a week after.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, wow, my tongues. Now you tell me. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it is a true dream. I have to tell you,
Speaker 5: like everybody that you got over at this exactly the
Speaker 5: right thing. They are so they make me feel so special.
Speaker 5: They make me feel so appreciated and just excited. It's
Speaker 5: just really like an exciting place. The morale is high.
Speaker 5: I just I love it. It's been a dream working
Speaker 5: with everybody. I have no notes whatsoever, Like I'm not
Speaker 5: even kidding you, no notes, and you like, there was
Speaker 5: a thing just the other day where they were kind
Speaker 5: of showing me some wording of something that I could say,
Speaker 5: and I was like, I've had so many people be like,
Speaker 5: here's something that you should say or whatever that I'm
Speaker 5: like I would never say. And I was looking at
Speaker 5: this and I'm like, this is the first time ever.
Speaker 5: This is like this sounds like me. You must have
Speaker 5: spent so much time listening to my podcast, and like,
Speaker 5: I just it just really.
Speaker 3: Felt that way.
Speaker 4: When I read the promos we recorded the other day,
Speaker 4: it was in our voices, well, attention is being paid.
Speaker 1: Attention is paid and by people.
Speaker 2: You know, we have an amazing Allison and Aaron the
Speaker 2: marketing but Aaron Brown who she writes those scripts, and
Speaker 2: and Alison, you know they zet all that stuff, but
Speaker 2: they dive in like it's The approach is obviously the
Speaker 2: approach of like a fan, like you have to love
Speaker 2: a show to add it to your mix, because it's
Speaker 2: like now we now we're all working together, so like, yeah,
Speaker 2: get into it and know the voice and I know
Speaker 2: that's it's It's so nice.
Speaker 1: I love those guys so much. They do such an
Speaker 1: amazing job.
Speaker 4: When you when you get things up and running. If
Speaker 4: you need a guest, I'd like to. I have a
Speaker 4: new I did stand up at a haunted Renwick mansion
Speaker 4: in Devenport, Iowa.
Speaker 3: Uh so I can talk about that.
Speaker 4: I don't want to give away anything, but let's just
Speaker 4: say some doorknobs jiggled.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, and mostly I scared myself, but the vibes
Speaker 5: were there.
Speaker 3: And I don't want to give away anymore. There was
Speaker 3: an abandoned seboard to give away some visuals.
Speaker 5: Wow, I'm very excited to hear about your scared doorknobs. No,
Speaker 5: that's great. Yeah yeah, but anyway, this whole thing dream
Speaker 5: City ya dot com.
Speaker 1: We've lucky to have you. No, it's just.
Speaker 5: Thank you well, and I'm so passionate about the show
Speaker 5: that like to have other people be really into it too.
Speaker 5: It's like it just feels great. It feels really really nice.
Speaker 2: Art appreciated and supported. It's really quite something. Did it
Speaker 2: for a long time kind of with none of that.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it really makes a huge difference.
Speaker 5: Well, and what I do is so like to me,
Speaker 5: it makes a lot of sense that people would be like, oh,
Speaker 5: what a fun like concept like ghosts and like celebrities
Speaker 5: and laughter and queerness and whatever else. But sometimes like
Speaker 5: people are like, wait, what is this, Like I don't know,
Speaker 5: They just like don't get what it is.
Speaker 1: And you're like, hang up that FaceTime called.
Speaker 5: Good bye bye. Yeah, I bring up my podcast every
Speaker 5: time I FaceTime these guys.
Speaker 4: Well, honestly, it wasn't until I did your podcast that
Speaker 4: I even asked myself if I'd had any experiences.
Speaker 5: Well, that's what's so fun. That's I love to have
Speaker 5: people on that. You know, everyone so used to being
Speaker 5: asked the same kinds of questions all the time or whatever.
Speaker 5: How like like I asked you, guys, when did you
Speaker 5: start doing Yeah? Yeah, But like it's it's it's fun
Speaker 5: to see how excited people are to talk about the
Speaker 5: jigly door knobs. Like I love to hear people telling
Speaker 5: stories that they've never told before and then thinking about it,
Speaker 5: and then you know, I get a lot of people
Speaker 5: that go, oh, yeah, there was this one time I
Speaker 5: completely forgot about this, and I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 5: really into the conversations it's and it opens up a
Speaker 5: lot of deeper conversations about cultural beliefs and religious beliefs
Speaker 5: and our upbringings and science.
Speaker 4: And history, all things that weren't really addressed in my home,
Speaker 4: like the spirituality and all that was just kind of
Speaker 4: which is if I've ignored it for most of my life. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and you've opened me up. And it's the reason I'm
Speaker 4: now a Ladder Day saying, And.
Speaker 5: I think it's it's to me the show is like
Speaker 5: a survey of what different people believe, because I don't
Speaker 5: have any agenda with it, Like I'm not really trying
Speaker 5: to make people believe it. I think it's up for
Speaker 5: the audience to decide. But hearing different people upbringing is
Speaker 5: a huge part of it, I think a lot of times.
Speaker 5: But it's interesting when like you weren't raised to believe
Speaker 5: in it, but then it still happens like I don't know.
Speaker 5: That to me is kind of like validating or whatever
Speaker 5: if that seed isn't planted in your head young or
Speaker 5: there's just so many different types of conversations that we
Speaker 5: can have that all kind of turn into this like
Speaker 5: list of different different things that could be true or
Speaker 5: not true, or.
Speaker 2: Like what you have experienced versus what is believed or understood,
Speaker 2: where it's kind of like I don't think when I
Speaker 2: tell the story that I told on your show when.
Speaker 1: I was on it Iconic, it's.
Speaker 2: Like my and I think I probably said it, but
Speaker 2: it's like I never am wanting people to believe me.
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit if they believe.
Speaker 2: Me or not.
Speaker 1: I know what happened totally.
Speaker 2: And it's that kind of thing where it's like sometimes
Speaker 2: people feel really defensive or really sorry, I'm going down there.
Speaker 1: Sorry sir, that's.
Speaker 4: You're right, You're right.
Speaker 1: To look at me like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's that feeling where it's just like, but
Speaker 2: it is so fun to go. I understand that this
Speaker 2: is hard to believe, but I'm still going to tell
Speaker 2: you what happened to me, because like it only happened
Speaker 2: to me, and so like it's really fun to be
Speaker 2: able to go like, can you believe this happened to
Speaker 2: me to a person that's open to hearing it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you also.
Speaker 5: Had other people that you lived with that experience. Yes,
Speaker 5: I did, which is validating. But that's why, Like sometimes
Speaker 5: people will be like, eh, I don't believe in that stuff,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, well, I still think that the show
Speaker 5: is an interesting thing because you'll probably find somebody that's
Speaker 5: been a guest that you enjoy, uh, or like are
Speaker 5: a fan of or whatever, and just hearing a good
Speaker 5: story from them. First of all, like it's just it's
Speaker 5: just good storytelling, but also it's like nobody has any
Speaker 5: reason to make any of this stuff up. It's just
Speaker 5: their experiences. And I don't know, I think it's good
Speaker 5: to be skeptical of this stuff. Why not We shouldn't
Speaker 5: just like assume everything is true, But.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 5: It's just fun to ponder and like think about the
Speaker 5: different possibilities of a well.
Speaker 2: And also the kind of like, uh, I don't know
Speaker 2: what I would have said before I had that experience,
Speaker 2: but then now when other people try to say it,
Speaker 2: and the people who have to say things like I
Speaker 2: don't believe in any of that stuff.
Speaker 1: It's just like, well, I'll talk to you when it
Speaker 1: happens to.
Speaker 2: You, because it's happened to a ton of people, and like,
Speaker 2: just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it
Speaker 2: isn't a possibility in the world.
Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you it is a possibility in
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: For most of my life I said I don't believe
Speaker 4: in any of that stuff, and then now in retrospect,
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, there was several instances where clearly.
Speaker 1: Something's going down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it happens all over the world all throughout time,
Speaker 5: like it so many people say that they've had these experiences.
Speaker 5: I feel like the last survey that they did, I
Speaker 5: want to say, said like it was over half people
Speaker 5: believe that it's possible, like paranormal experiences. Yeah, and so
Speaker 5: it's like there's gotta be something there. Like I think
Speaker 5: every single person knows somebody if you asked around.
Speaker 2: We get on my favorite order, we get hometowns where
Speaker 2: people are like my grandma told me she would send
Speaker 2: me a sign and then they'd say this very specific
Speaker 2: thing and it's not just like the light blank, it's
Speaker 2: literally like and then this thing happened that she used
Speaker 2: to do and blah blah blah. And it's like, sure
Speaker 2: people could be lying, people could always be lying, but
Speaker 2: what is the.
Speaker 1: Idea of like a story.
Speaker 2: It's such a good story to think this person that
Speaker 2: you loved so much is gone and there's somewhere else going.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm I still think about you. That's beautiful. It's
Speaker 1: the best.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, And that's what I love about It's
Speaker 5: like so much of it can be spooky. Sometimes it
Speaker 5: can be like heartwarming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was for me also, not experiences,
Speaker 4: but so much when someone dies, like when my mom died,
Speaker 4: you are you're like, well, there has to be.
Speaker 3: Some spiritual element to this. I refuse to believe that.
Speaker 4: And then you can feel it and it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: well that wasn't necessarily a haunting, but it's something that
Speaker 4: you can feel yoh totally yeah, and you can't put
Speaker 4: it into words and convince someone else.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And like when I when I ask around to people
Speaker 5: to be guessed on the show, like sometimes they don't
Speaker 5: have a Karen Kilgar level story tale.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 5: It might just be like a short because most of
Speaker 5: the time these things are like little things that happen.
Speaker 5: They're not like big, long stories, but it makes one
Speaker 5: believe like, oh there could be more. Yeah, there could
Speaker 5: be more out there. Maybe one day I live in
Speaker 5: a house like Karen Kilgar.
Speaker 1: Anyone can live in that rental house in Sacramento.
Speaker 5: So that episode when you were at I'm telling you
Speaker 5: that when I was I was recording in my shower
Speaker 5: during the pandemic, and it just the audio is so bad,
Speaker 5: but it's like the best story ever.
Speaker 1: We'll have to revisit.
Speaker 5: That would be a dreamy way. So well, here we
Speaker 5: are at my mansion.
Speaker 3: When it said the Golden Girls show.
Speaker 5: Run August sometime, follow me at Roz Hernandez and I'll
Speaker 5: tell you there is.
Speaker 1: That all your handles on everywhere we can find you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, TikTok is at its ros Hernandas, but I'm mainly
Speaker 5: just Instagram. Yeah, even if I posted TikTok, I'll put
Speaker 5: it on Instagram.
Speaker 6: Love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the best. I love ros I love to.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, why don't you guys marry you're going
Speaker 5: on again? Well you've been listening to Dee Whyan.
Speaker 3: I lave.
Speaker 4: This has been an exactly right production produced by Annalise Nelson,
Speaker 4: mixed by Edson Choi.
Speaker 1: Our talent booker is Patrick Kottner.
Speaker 3: Theme song by Karen Kilgarrett.
Speaker 1: Artwork by Chris Fairbanks.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Oh, You're welcome.