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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz.

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Speaker 3: Jeff, how are you today?

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Speaker 4: Good? I am in a football moone if I went

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Speaker 4: to a Panther's training camp practice this morning, first time,

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Speaker 4: and I believe thirty years now that they're not away

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Speaker 4: for camp and not in Spiderborg, South Carolina at Watford College,

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Speaker 4: so they're back here in Charlotte's a much easier to

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Speaker 4: get to see them. Took my sun today and good

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Speaker 4: time seeing some former teammates that were there, and you know,

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Speaker 4: getting that little the football fever, even though not to

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Speaker 4: be the old guy in the room here, but training

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Speaker 4: camp practice is not what it used to be, buddy.

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Speaker 3: It's not well.

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Speaker 2: By the way, can I preface by saying that we

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Speaker 2: are two big ten guys.

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Speaker 3: Now, we are two big ten legends.

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Speaker 4: That is certainly true.

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Speaker 3: I mean my Ucla roots.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Jeff raised by UCLA parents, became an Oregon duck.

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Speaker 3: But we're big ten guys, now, how's that feel?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: What is so weird about all that is that I

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Speaker 4: was just a Big ten media day and I was

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Speaker 4: there because I cover the Big ten for another another

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Speaker 4: one of my jobs. And I had been at Pacto

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Speaker 4: Media Day the previous four years, I guess now, and

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Speaker 4: the Pacto Media Day has always been smaller, but you know,

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Speaker 4: good vibe, and the vibe is good, even though last

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Speaker 4: knew the conflict was maybe heading a direction that I

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Speaker 4: would wanted it to go, but high energy, like you know,

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Speaker 4: small ballroom maybe somewhere, and you get to the Big

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Speaker 4: tim Media Day. And PACT twelve was one day. All

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Speaker 4: twelve teams get to the Big twelve. Steve. It's three days,

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Speaker 4: six teams a day. It's in Lucas Oil Stateium, Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: The whole entire football field is full. There's there's a

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Speaker 4: a lot of if you ever watch the Monday night

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Speaker 4: reminds me of that, just like an entire media setup.

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Speaker 4: And it just felt really really big, you know. And

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't think that we've I felt that

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Speaker 4: way about where the PAC twelve was at until, you know,

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Speaker 4: really really never. But it felt big, Steve, like we

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Speaker 4: had sort of arrived at, you know, some big boy

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a different level. I mean, look at what

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Speaker 2: and we're got. Obviously we have NonStop NFL football. Adam

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Speaker 2: kaplan our NFL inside is going to be joining us

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Speaker 2: come up here in about fifteen minutes. But the Big

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Speaker 2: ten and the SEC when it comes to college football,

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Speaker 2: they're just next level, you know. And as we've talked

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Speaker 2: about this, Jeff, you and I have talked about in

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Speaker 2: the past, it's this continuing evolution of where college football

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Speaker 2: Where we've had this realignment of these conferences, the essential

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Speaker 2: dissolve of the Pac twelve. We're going to have a

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Speaker 2: twelve school playoff coming up this year. It's just a

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Speaker 2: whole different world. And we said this throughout the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three season. Take a snapshot of what's happening this

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Speaker 2: year because it's over. The twenty twenty three will be

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Speaker 2: the last last year of college football as we essentially

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Speaker 2: focus on the NFL. So look, with all due respect

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Speaker 2: to the Olympics, and I know Olympics is going on

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Speaker 2: It exactly, it's background noise. You're watching sports you would

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Speaker 2: Know, And when the US does well, boom, Hello USA,

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Speaker 2: that's all good. But this morning I was riveted to

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Speaker 2: with a team that you're near and dear two and

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Speaker 2: that is the Kansas City Chiefs. They became the ninth

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Speaker 2: team to win back to back Super Bowls. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: starting with the Packers winning Super Bowls one and two,

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Speaker 2: Actually the closest was the forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 3: They won back to back.

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Speaker 2: In eighty eight and eighty nine, and then in nineteen

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Speaker 2: Montana at the top of his game. But outside of that,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's been a rough ride to try to

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Speaker 3: So let's start with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: I boldly stated a couple of years ago that when

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Speaker 2: with that prediction. So you've got and I've said this

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Speaker 2: over the last year or so, when we define franchise

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Speaker 2: in the league right now, and his name is Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Because if the idea of every franchise is to win

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Speaker 3: This guy's got three. The question is will he get four?

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Speaker 2: So I want you to break this down because you

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Speaker 1: Of us do.

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Speaker 3: By this point.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy to me because I've had so many friends, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: much like the Patriots were before Tom Brady, they were

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Speaker 2: just a non story there's nothing to the Chiefs history.

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Speaker 2: They did win a super Bowl, you know, won super

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Speaker 2: Bowl four, but there was nothing there, no great legacy

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Speaker 2: or anything else. And then all of a sudden, right quarterback,

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Speaker 2: right coach, boom, They're winning, just like the Patriots did

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Speaker 2: with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. Should the Chiefs be

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Speaker 2: a third consecutive Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: They should be the favorites, But it doesn't mean I'm

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Speaker 4: favoring them to do this, right, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: I mean they after what they did last year going

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Speaker 4: go to Baltimore and win that game. They had one

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Speaker 4: Their road to winning last season was extraordinary for the

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Speaker 4: obviously they have Mahomes and good offensive line and so

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Speaker 4: like you know they're over to overcome some of that

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Speaker 4: so it makes sense because of the road they were

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Speaker 4: likely if they were going back this season, it's not

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Speaker 4: rightfully the favorite. And to me, what it comes down

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Speaker 4: to Steve for them this year is health. We know health, right,

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Speaker 4: That always matters. Right, they lose a Jerry Scene on defense,

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Speaker 4: I think to find another corner to sort of sort

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Speaker 4: the thing though, as well, is that you don't need

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Speaker 4: certain points, you just needm to be like tenth best,

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Speaker 4: Steve right, because your offense should be better this year

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Speaker 4: You have Kelsey. You drafted this tight end of TC

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Speaker 4: it's about just getting the offense they're healthy, and the

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Speaker 4: the playoff at some point with probably one home game

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Speaker 4: the AFC steve very very hard.

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Speaker 2: Well, it is very hard, but I mean, to me,

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Speaker 2: there's a big bud on just how difficult the AFC

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Speaker 2: is to navigate. All right, we're gonna pick this conversation

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Speaker 2: up on the other side along with Dean, joined by

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Speaker 2: a man that is there in the camps right now.

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Speaker 2: He's beginning his odyssey around the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: Where he is.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna find out when we come back. That is

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Speaker 2: our NFL insider, Adam Kaplan. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: and we're talking NFL.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we're talking some NFL right now.

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Speaker 2: And joining us as he begins his odyssey around training

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Speaker 2: camps around the National Football League is our Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan. Well, Adam, we've been doing

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Speaker 3: Give us a little because everyone's just envious.

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Speaker 2: Like, if you're an NFL fan, the idea of traveling

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Speaker 2: around the country to different training camps sounds insane and

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Speaker 2: you get to live it. So what's your how are

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Speaker 2: you going to begin your training camp odyssey?

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Speaker 6: You know, it's funny because I'm working, I'm I'm finishing

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Speaker 1: Now, if Lamar Jackson does not.

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Speaker 1: Let me see.

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Speaker 4: You're a busy man. I am almost less interested in

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Speaker 4: it's going to be more expensive. Now, how do these

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not good. Look, they as they've done for decades.

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Speaker 6: By the way, agents love the Cowboys because they know,

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Speaker 6: So Dak Steel, if it got done now, would be

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Speaker 6: between fifty seven and sixty million.

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Speaker 6: That see if it gets done because they want Ceede

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys know this.

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Speaker 6: They also know that Michael Parsons wants to be the

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Speaker 1: By the way, he deserves it.

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Speaker 6: If it's getting done, he's getting that that's not going

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Speaker 6: So Jeff to move this forward.

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Speaker 1: They've they got a problem here. They got a problem here,

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Speaker 6: By the way Trent Williams's they did a deal was

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Speaker 6: They typically don't guarantee future money and they had to

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Speaker 6: grocery who told.

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Speaker 1: Me this week. So he told me this three days ago.

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Speaker 6: There is no way that Jordan Love was going to

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Speaker 6: you can't justify paying him last Stuart Love and then

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Speaker 2: Well, let's carry on with this Jordan Love deal though,

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Speaker 2: very close in covering the Eagles. And we saw Jalen

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Speaker 2: he had this breakout year and he got this huge

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Speaker 3: So how do you feel?

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Speaker 2: Because I've always been a Jalen Hurts fan the way

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Speaker 3: So how do you think this is? Because Jordan Love's

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Speaker 3: already talking about it.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's talking about pressure comes with these big contracts.

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Speaker 6: He's now with Washington. It's bizarre situation. So now you

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Speaker 1: He runs a spread. I was there to day. All

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Speaker 6: I mean almost every play was eleven personnel, which is

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Speaker 6: hard man. I look, you're right, Steve, he took a

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Speaker 4: The AFC East, to me, is a really fascinating division

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Speaker 6: Well Knowingland's not making it, but you didn't mention them.

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Speaker 6: But of course that was obvious, right. You know what's funny?

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Speaker 1: You know that.

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Speaker 6: We look at numbers and data and gaming numbers. And

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Speaker 6: I'm just telling you. Their roster, their defensive rosters phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sold on them. And I want to know who's.

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Speaker 6: Going to make a play for the Bills in their

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Speaker 6: Jeff on your point. Now you want to talk about pressure,

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Speaker 6: No one has more pressure in that division than Robert Sala.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely not not even close. Mike McDonald. Mike McDaniel's going

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Speaker 3: What is his ceiling?

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he has defied all logic from being

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Speaker 2: But you've had enough time to evaluate his game, obviously

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Speaker 6: And party's Party's at this West Coast system, like no

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Speaker 6: deal with Simon's on tractor free agent. Then he's open season.

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Speaker 6: So to answer your question right now, I put him

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Speaker 6: in the top ten to top twelve. Could he be

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Speaker 6: top five?

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 6: But the other part about this is if they trade

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Speaker 6: Brandon Ayuck, I know they don't want to have talked

446
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Speaker 6: to the Niners people there a lot.

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Speaker 1: They clearly don't want to trade him.

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Speaker 6: But if you know, if Ayuk walks out of training

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Speaker 6: camp in late August for the season, I'm not thinking

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Speaker 6: he's going to do that, but if they don't step

451
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Speaker 6: things up here and they're not close, I mean, you

452
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Speaker 6: never know what happens, so you never know what happens here.

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Speaker 6: But I give Ayo credit for doing what he's done

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Speaker 6: so far here. He could, you know, he can make

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Speaker 6: it ugly, but he hasn't. Although I know they asked

456
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Speaker 6: for a trade, but it's not been It has not

457
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Speaker 6: been ugly. Internally, they understand this. But man, if they

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Speaker 6: traded Ayok, that would be a game chage. I put

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Speaker 6: the odds against it. But I know what happens when

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Speaker 6: things you know, when we get closer to the season,

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Speaker 6: if he decides to make things a little different.

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Speaker 4: Rookie quarterbacks Kayleid Williams, Jackson Daniels, bow Nicks. I believe

463
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Speaker 4: is getting a lot of reps with the ones which

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks so far has sort of had a good camp.

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Speaker 6: Daniels, everything I've heard has been really good. You know,

466
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Speaker 6: Drake May is long ways away and it's kind of

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Speaker 6: what I thought McCarthy because he's got to learn the

468
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Speaker 6: West Coast scheme. Sam Darnald, we know who he is.

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Speaker 6: Everyone's going crazy over Darnald, folks. There's a reason why

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Speaker 6: he keeps going from team to team teams. He's a

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Speaker 6: Coaches love him because he's tough. He's been through a lot.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't process real well. He overthinks he's Eventually it's

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Speaker 6: just not going to work. And look, they drafted McCarthy

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Speaker 6: to start. Caleb Williams has been fun. It's been up

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Speaker 6: and down for what I understand for him so far.

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Speaker 6: They've got a lot of talent around the folks. This

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Speaker 6: is the best in my career here covering the NFL

478
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Speaker 6: twenty five years. This is probably the most offensive talent

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Speaker 6: the Bears put together. It's I'm not used to talking

480
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Speaker 6: about the Bears and offensive talent. He should have not

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Speaker 6: had it. This is an amazing deep group that they

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Speaker 6: have here at running back today and wide receiver. I now,

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Speaker 6: this is by the way West Coast offense that Walterin's running,

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Speaker 6: Shane Water and their offensive coordinator. So it's going to

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Speaker 6: take cablem Caleb Williams some time to get it down right.

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Speaker 6: But if he could just throw with better timing this thing.

487
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Speaker 6: And by the way, their eight and a half win

488
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Speaker 6: total I thought was too high. If Caleb Williams is

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Speaker 6: better than I thought, they're probably going to go over

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Speaker 6: that total.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that seemed to be a high number considering where

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Speaker 2: they've been over the last couple of years. But again

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Speaker 2: I'm a believer Caleb Williams are gonna get much more

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Speaker 2: into that. By the way, every single Saturday here throughout

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Speaker 2: Great stuff is always Adam will check in with you

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Speaker 1: It'll be from LA. Yeah, I've looked forward to talking

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Speaker 1: to you guys.

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Speaker 2: is trending right now. And Jeff, how long have you

521
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Speaker 2: been married now?

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Speaker 4: I have been married ten years?

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Speaker 3: Ten years, and you have two beautiful children.

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Speaker 2: I do, yeah, and I've been I was married twenty

525
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Speaker 2: years in divorce ten and I have three adult children

526
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Speaker 2: right now. So we're at different levels, different stages. But

527
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Speaker 2: here's the next stage. Brian Famileybefen has return from his

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Speaker 2: wedding and he is newly married. He's sporting his wedding ring.

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Speaker 2: It just keeps falling off my ring finger, by the way,

530
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Speaker 2: and that's not a great time. Well, it's you keep

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Speaker 2: taking it on and off. Well, yeah, you start playing

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Speaker 2: with it. First of all, you're not used to wearing

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Speaker 2: a ring, no, obviously, so the fact that it's there,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Jeff, were you playing around with your

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Speaker 2: wedding ring in the beginning.

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Speaker 4: Sort of like, yeah, so I haven't won my ring

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Speaker 4: in nine and a half years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there you go. Yeah, yeah, it's it on

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Speaker 3: full display probably somewhere.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 4: Part of it is that when I would come home,

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Speaker 4: my wife would say, why do you still have your

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Speaker 4: ring on at night? Because she takes hers all her

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Speaker 4: Julier off and puts it like in a bowl besides

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Speaker 4: the bed. And so I'm a Julian person, but I

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Speaker 4: got nothing.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't wearing a jeweler. I don't like it. It

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Speaker 4: feels weird on me. And so she said, just take

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Speaker 4: it off at night like I do, And I just

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Speaker 4: never put it back off. So I know where they are.

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Speaker 4: I just don't.

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Speaker 3: My dad never took off that ring sixty years. I

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Speaker 3: mean never my parents.

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Speaker 4: My parents don't take it forty yeah, seven years they're.

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Speaker 7: Taking Well, the only time your dad, Steve would take

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Speaker 7: it off is when he was at the bar. Right,

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Speaker 7: That's what sixty years of marriage will do you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But anyway, congratulations, and he says he feels completely

560
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Speaker 2: the same.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you're not. So there you go. How

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Speaker 3: can you tell? I just know I can see that.

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Speaker 3: I can see that as a man of experience. Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: And I did tell you about something. I'm not going

565
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Speaker 3: to share it on the air, but I did tell

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Speaker 3: you there's a certain magic about that ring. Unbelievable about

567
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Speaker 3: that ring, unbelievable.

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Speaker 7: Yes, and there's certain certainly a certain magic about having

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Speaker 7: the Olympics going on right now. You guys can feel

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Speaker 7: the energy. We're looking at the medal count here. Five

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Speaker 7: medals for Australia, five for tem Usa. That is the

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Speaker 7: most out of enemy country. Although the Stars and Stripes

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Speaker 7: have only one gold and that was today. They got

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Speaker 7: that in the for about one hundred freestyle relay that

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Speaker 7: is men swimming, women swimming for tm Usa. Katie Ledeci

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Speaker 7: nabbing bronze a bit of an understatement for him or

577
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Speaker 7: for her, excuse me, underperforming four hundred meter freestyle was

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Speaker 7: the event. Australia does have three goals, one in cycling

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Speaker 7: row the other in swimming women's field hockey. Argentina had

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Speaker 7: a four to one win against Team USA. I no, Steve,

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Speaker 7: you are watching the women's field hockey every moment of

582
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Speaker 7: that action with jaw Gabe. And then we had the

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Speaker 7: men's volleyball going on with Team USA winning against Argentina

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Speaker 7: in a sweep. Men's soccer for the Americans winning four

585
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Speaker 7: to one against New Zealand, and while we're not going

586
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Speaker 7: to get Team USA men's basketball until tomorrow when they

587
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Speaker 7: take on Argentina, there were other games involving other basketball teams.

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Speaker 7: Canada winning today eighty six to seventy nine against Greece,

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Speaker 7: Shai Gilgis Alexander scoring in double figures. Arja Barrett had

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Speaker 7: twenty three points. Giannis Dentacumpo thirty four points in disappointment,

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Speaker 7: but he did put up his numbers. France winning seventy

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Speaker 7: eight to sixty six against Brazil. Victor wembin Yama had

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Speaker 7: nineteen points, fourteen of those coming in the first half.

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Speaker 7: Wins for Germany over Japan ninety seven to seventy seven

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Speaker 7: and Australia ninety two to eighty And finally guys in

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Speaker 7: women's fencing at Bay bronze medal match. Yeah, I think

597
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Speaker 7: this is the first time we've ever mentioned fencing on FSR.

598
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Speaker 7: It was Esther Muhari from Hungary winning against Estonia's Nelly Divert,

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Speaker 7: and that was a fifteen to fourteen final. So I'm

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Speaker 7: sure we'll be breaking down that an hour number three

601
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Speaker 7: of the show and Jeff and Steve as I get

602
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Speaker 7: it back to you. The other good news is, of

603
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Speaker 7: course Ravens quarterback in Lamar Jackson, he is back at

604
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Speaker 7: the practice field after four mispractices because of a sickness.

605
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Speaker 7: And we do know that according to NFL Network, Cowboys

606
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Speaker 7: executive vice president Stephen Jones delivered wide receiver Ceedlamb, who

607
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Speaker 7: was holding out a higher paying contract, yesterday. Nothing has

608
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Speaker 7: been official as far as him saying yes to the contract,

609
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Speaker 7: but Lamb and his camp are maintaining what we're calling

610
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Speaker 7: healthy communication as they're talking it through amongst one another

611
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Speaker 7: and the team hoping that they come to some sort

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Speaker 7: of consensus on a new deal.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they will, by the way, a little bit early.

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Speaker 2: You know Chris Propett, who is our resident fanatic when

615
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Speaker 2: it comes to the Olympics. I walked into the studio,

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Speaker 2: I said, Wow, who's winning this ping pong match? He

617
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Speaker 2: went Bizerko on me table tennis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ping pong.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: And during one of the hours that he was working

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Speaker 7: with us, we also got into some equestrian I had

622
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Speaker 7: to get the updates on that.

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Speaker 3: In the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not surprised the Hungarian won. Fancy my mother

625
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Speaker 2: being Hungarian. She was a fencer back in her high

626
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Speaker 2: school days.

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, a little bit. You've told me more about

629
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Speaker 2: your mother than I really care to know. Well, it's

630
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Speaker 2: it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's interesting because Jeff I was telling Steve this,

632
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Speaker 7: So my mom she in the eighty four Olympics in

633
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Speaker 7: Los Angeles. She was carrying the placard for Morocco. Now

634
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Speaker 7: she's not from Morocco, but as they're walking through the

635
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Speaker 7: coliseum opening ceremony, she is wearing all, you know, representing

636
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Speaker 7: Morocco with the sign.

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Speaker 3: And that was six years after she made her Playboy debut.

638
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Speaker 2: She was in Playboy from UCLA. Yes, so they had

639
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Speaker 2: like students. Was a nude, Jeff, but it was she

640
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Speaker 2: was a student at UCLA at the same time I

641
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Speaker 2: was at UCLA. Yeah, and she was, and then she

642
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Speaker 2: was chosen as one of those beautiful co eds. UCLA

643
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Speaker 2: certainly has had their fair share over the years.

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Speaker 7: So all that from your mom, Yeah, Girls of the

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Speaker 7: Pac ten is what it was called, the catalog.

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Speaker 2: That was well, it became the Pac ten in nineteen

647
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Speaker 2: seventy eight, so that was right when she had in

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Speaker 2: seventy eight, seventy eight.

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Speaker 3: That was the Yeah, the Arizona and Arizona State jiant.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to do like Girls of

651
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Speaker 4: a Big Town with the new conference, are they?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: They no knock on the big tam. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of beautiful women in the Big ten, but you know,

655
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Speaker 2: to celebrate the new Big Ten.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they also invited my mom to come along and

657
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Speaker 7: do some some more photo shoots that you know, showed

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Speaker 7: more and she said no, thanks, no.

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Speaker 2: No, no, she made a smart decision there. Well, Befen,

660
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Speaker 2: enjoy a married life. You'll see where it turns out.

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Speaker 7: Again.

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Speaker 2: You'll get to the Jeff level and then eventually my

663
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Speaker 2: level and I hope your level. You don't what the

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Speaker 2: ten years divorce tagged on at the end, but yeah, anyway,

665
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Speaker 2: good luck to you on that one, Beefinn.

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Speaker 3: Once again, this is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Steve Harbin, Jeff Schwartz, we are here live from the

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Speaker 2: tai Iraq dot Com studios. I'm right pickup where we

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Speaker 2: left off before Adam Kaplan joined us, and we were

670
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Speaker 2: talking about the Chiefs, Jeff, and then you just sort

671
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Speaker 2: of threw in, But the AFC is going to be tough,

672
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Speaker 2: and I'm really torn in which team is next in line.

673
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Speaker 2: I mean, we had the rape a year ago, fell

674
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Speaker 2: on their face with the worst game plan ever in

675
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Speaker 2: that matchup against the Chiefs, where I guess the game

676
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Speaker 2: plan will let's have Lamar Jackson throw the ball forty times.

677
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Speaker 3: I was absurd.

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Speaker 2: The Bills, who are perceived as a team that may

679
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: have already seen their window come and go. The Bengals,

680
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Speaker 2: if Joe Burrow can stay on the field, which he

681
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: hasn't in two of.

682
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Speaker 3: His four seasons.

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Speaker 2: Right now, who do you have as the main challenger

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Speaker 2: the team most likely to thrown the Chiefs in the AFC.

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Speaker 4: Well, the team that's played them the best is the Bengals, Steve, Like,

686
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Speaker 4: the Bengals are the team who has played them the

687
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Speaker 4: best right and right now? Is like, as a Chiefs fan,

688
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Speaker 4: that's the team I would not want to see. I

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Speaker 4: mean again, we've seen that, We've seen these teams match

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Speaker 4: up before in the playoffs. It has given the Chiefs

691
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Speaker 4: the most trouble. We saw them the record seasons, give

692
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Speaker 4: them chefs like they're the team that has routinely given

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Speaker 4: them the most trouble each and every year. And you know,

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Speaker 4: for whatever it is, and Burrow's just ability to just

695
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Speaker 4: be Joe Burrow in those moments and he's never phased

696
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Speaker 4: by the Chiefs and never faced by Arrowhead. So it

697
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Speaker 4: feels like that to me is the team I would

698
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Speaker 4: worry about the most. I will say, though, I don't

699
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Speaker 4: know what to make of the Jets. I really don't, Steve,

700
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Speaker 4: I have no idea, but they are a very talented

701
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Speaker 4: team with a quarterback that has played a lot of football.

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Speaker 4: If they get to a situation where they're playing in

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Speaker 4: the final weekend before the Super Bowl, that would it

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Speaker 4: would worry me a little bit as a Chiefs fan.

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Speaker 4: I mean that means that Jets are playing good football

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Speaker 4: with a good quarterback and a good defense. But otherwise

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I fear anyone else because of

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Speaker 4: what the Chiefs have done to everyone else over the

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Speaker 4: the last three years. The Bengals are the team, Steve

710
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Speaker 4: the Bangles are team that played them the toughest in

711
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Speaker 4: this Patrick Mahomes sort of Joe Burrow era.

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Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned the Jets. I saw in Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: interview today. Brian Baldinger did this interview with him on

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Speaker 2: the NFL Network, and it was interesting how Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: concluded the conversation by saying, there are going to be

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Speaker 2: a lot of ups and downs this season. We expect

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Speaker 2: to have more ups than downs, but stay tuned. That

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Speaker 2: was basically his message.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I do know in terms.

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Speaker 2: Of production from their quarterback. Few teams in the league

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Speaker 2: had a bigger upgrade from twenty twenty two to twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three than the Packers had last year. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you look at Jordan Love's numbers in twenty twenty

724
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Speaker 2: three as compared to what Aaron Rodgers did in twenty

725
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Speaker 2: twenty two, that was as big a leap in production

726
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Speaker 2: as any team in the league had at the quarterback position.

727
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Speaker 2: So after winning back to back MVP awards, twenty twenty

728
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: two was a down year Aaron Rodgers, and now he's

729
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: had a lost season and he's coming back at age

730
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Speaker 2: forty just sort of reading into the demeanor of Aaron Rodgers.

731
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Speaker 2: Although he was very positive and obviously excited to get

732
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Speaker 2: back on the football field, and he certainly doesn't lack confidence.

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Speaker 2: I think he's realistic to know there's a lot of

734
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Speaker 2: unknown right now, just a lot of unknown. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he can talk about how talented the skill guys are

736
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: around him, which seems to be accurate. Obviously, the Jets

737
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: have one of the better defenses in the league. If

738
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Speaker 2: he can just stay healthy, you feel like the Jets

739
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Speaker 2: will be in playoff contention. Yeah, but that's still a

740
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Speaker 2: lot of ifs. And there's just, to me, the big

741
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Speaker 2: question about Aaron Rodgers. I mean, what player are we

742
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Speaker 2: going to see? A guy that is now three years

743
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Speaker 2: removed from being one of the elite quarterbacks in this league.

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Speaker 4: The problem with a lot of the ifs is that

745
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 4: their IF's in one season, Like this is not a

746
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: a situation where you have if we don't get this year, guys,

747
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 4: we'll get him next year. There might not be a

748
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 4: next year, right because of Rogers age, the contract is

749
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 4: solid going to come back if they don't sort of

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00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: do well this season and kind of do what they

751
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 4: want you have a brand, you have a new coach.

752
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,959
Speaker 4: You know. Defense, we see each and every year Steve

753
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 4: has a little more volatility than offense. Offense tends to

754
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 4: remain sort of even. Defense tends to go up and down.

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00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 4: So to guarantee the Jets have a good defense two

756
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: years from now, it's probably tough to imagine that happening.

757
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: And they haven't done it yet. The Rodgers played with

758
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 4: four snaps last year. They haven't even done this together

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Speaker 4: as a team with Rogers, So I think that he

760
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 4: is right that it might take some time to figure

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Speaker 4: out who they are as a team, and they have

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Speaker 4: time to do that. I mean, they have. It's a

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Speaker 4: seventeen week season, right as long as you get in

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Speaker 4: the postseason. We've seen more teams win on the road

765
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Speaker 4: recently in the postseason, which we used to, which used

766
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Speaker 4: to be sort of few and far between. And so

767
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: they can get in the dance and they feel good

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Speaker 4: about their team as they get in the dance, then yeah,

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Speaker 4: I buy what he's saying. But if you're a Jets

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Speaker 4: fan who just watched your quarterback get hurt last season

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Speaker 4: very early in the season, I'm not Sally, you don't

772
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 4: want to hear, yeah, I might take some time. You

773
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: want to win. Now, you wanted to start fast. They

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00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 4: have a tough schedule, and maybe Rogers is kind of

775
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 4: sort of alluding to the tough schedule, will start and

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Speaker 4: you wanted to hit to hit the ground running. But

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00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 4: Rogers see is he's spent a lot of football. He

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00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 4: knows what this is about. And I understand him being like, hey, guys,

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00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 4: you know it might take a little bit of time,

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Speaker 4: and that's okay.

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Speaker 2: All right, brief segment coming up. I'm gonna share with

782
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 2: you the shocker of the season already, and you're gonna

783
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: blow your lid when you hear me talk. You'll tell

784
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Speaker 2: me to get off the year, most likely immediately after

785
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Speaker 2: I make the comment I'm gonna make.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup nation.

788
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 5: Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com

789
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 5: and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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Speaker 2: Steve Harvin, Jeff Schwartz, Fox Sports Saturday. We are live

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Speaker 2: from the ti iraq dot com studios. All right, we

792
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Speaker 2: only have a couple of minutes before the top of

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Speaker 2: the hour, son, know what's your appetite Jeff with this thought.

794
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 2: A year ago, nobody, nobody could have predicted that the

795
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: Houston Texans would make the playoffs.

796
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 3: Correct, nobody would have made that prediction.

797
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: So I'm about to make a prediction that nobody is

798
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Speaker 2: sharing right now. I've shared it with others and absolutely

799
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 2: everyone's like laughing at me. But I see the possibility

800
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: of a team. I think they're over under his five

801
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: and a half wins, which is similar to what Houston

802
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: was a year ago making the playoffs this year. And

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00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: the reason I say that is they have a new

804
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: quarterback that is very unique. He's a rookie quarterback. He

805
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: did something that's never been done in the history of

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00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: college football, sixty one career starts, no at the Division

807
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: one level. Bo Nicks is going to lead the Denver

808
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: Broncos to the playoffs this year because Sean Payton has

809
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: got the quarterback he wants. You can say, well, who

810
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: are the skill guys. That's what everyone's saying about the

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Speaker 2: Texans a year ago. I believe the bow Knicks, under

812
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Speaker 2: the tutelage of Sean Payton, Raiders are down.

813
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Speaker 3: Jim Arbo will eventually get a job done with the Chargers,

814
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 3: but not this year.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying to catch the Chiefs, but I think

816
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: they can crawl into a wild card spot mark my words.

817
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos, led by their rookie quarterback, your Oregon

818
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: Duck bow.

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Speaker 3: Knicks like the playoffs in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: I have thirty seconds to respond to this.

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Speaker 3: Well, you can respond on the other side if you

822
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: want to really go on.

823
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 4: You purposely set me up for this one.

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00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: Why don't you Why don't you set up a response

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00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: in the next ten seconds or so.

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Speaker 4: The answer is no, A simple answer, No, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I just don't. I don't think. Jeez, what beginning.

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Speaker 2: I just gave you sixty one career starts, the most

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Speaker 2: Division one history.

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Speaker 4: The answer is no, and I'll explain that.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, I went because I believe we

833
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: know that every year of one or two teams come

834
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Speaker 2: out of absolutely nowhere.

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Speaker 3: I'm smelling it for the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 2: We'll continue on with this absurdity known as Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Rolling along here on another fully loaded sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: far as the Olympics are concerned, for the next couple

845
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Speaker 2: of weeks, it'll be in the background. Yes, in fact,

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Speaker 2: in our studios here, Jeff, three TVs showing three entirely

847
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: different sports. So it's going to be constant, and every

848
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: once in a while something that's going to catch your eye.

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Speaker 2: And you know, every Olympic Games produces people that suddenly

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Speaker 2: become household names that were not before the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: So looking forward to all that.

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Speaker 2: But this show today is in honor of the launching

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00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: of training camps around the National Football League, and right

854
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: before the top of the hour, I knew I blow

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Speaker 2: Jeff away with his prediction. We'll get more on that

856
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 2: in a second, but I know this about the NFL,

857
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: and it happens perhaps more in the NFL than any

858
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 2: other sport, and it happens on a consistent basis.

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00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 3: Year after year after year.

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00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: What do we always say, six or seven coaches are

861
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: fired every year, So we know that there's going to

862
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: be a team or two that is completely off the

863
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: radar going into the season. This is the beauty of

864
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Speaker 2: training camps, right, everyone's optimistics, the new season, everything else.

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Speaker 2: But from the ashes of a year ago, somebody's going

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Speaker 2: to emerge one or two teams that you never think about.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's look at the Rams going into last season,

868
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: question marks everywhere. Basically they were in cap hell. They

869
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: had bought out to win a Super Bowl and at

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00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: work they won the Super Bowl. Now they were going

871
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: to have to pay the price. Who could have predicted

872
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: before the season that Pukinakua would have a historic season

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00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: as a rookie as wide receiver. Who could have predicted

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00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: that Kyron Williams would end up leading the NFL in

875
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: rushing yards per game.

876
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 3: Both making the Pro Bowl.

877
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: It changed the whole dynamic of the offense, and Matthew

878
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: Stafford for the first time in his career was named

879
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: to the Pro Bowl as a non alternate. He was

880
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 2: actually named to the Pro Bowl for the first time

881
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: in his career, and the Rams made the playoffs. So

882
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: I look back about addition through subtraction to just sort

883
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: of take my Bronco pick to the next level by

884
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: getting rid of Russell Wilson, because the last team that

885
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: did that was the Seattle Seahawks. They traded away Russell

886
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: Wilson and got Drew Locke in in return. And we

887
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: were talking about it, Jeff at that time, talking about, well,

888
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: it looks like Seattle is probably thinking, all right, a

889
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: year from now, we're going to be in.

890
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: A position to have the number one pick in the draft.

891
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: And along comes Geno Smith, who I didn't even know

892
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: was still in the league, and all of a sudden,

893
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: Geno Smith becomes the starting quarterback, makes.

894
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 3: The Pro Bowl, and they make the playoffs.

895
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: Now I know that Bo Nicks is not Geno Smith

896
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: in terms of NFL experience, but I also know this

897
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: Sean Payton is a guy that knows quarterbacks. He was

898
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: never happy with Russell Wilson, despite the fact that Russell

899
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: Wilson put up respectable numbers in twenty twenty three, and

900
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: now he gets to take a kid from day one

901
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: and make him into the quarterback he wants. The Broncos

902
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: had a rough start to the season, to say the least.

903
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: Their defense wasn't just bad, it was historically bad, but

904
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: by season's end, their defense was more than respectable Jerry

905
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: Judy was another.

906
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: Guy they needed to get rid of.

907
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 2: It was obvious that Sean Payton, who has more power

908
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: than just about any coach in this league, he was

909
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 2: given one hundred percent stamp to do what you want

910
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: to do. He has rid this team of the players

911
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: he doesn't want, and now he's bringing in players he

912
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: does want. And I think that he is very happy

913
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 2: to have Bo Knicks as his quarterback and all the experience.

914
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 2: This is not a typical rookie quarterback, not with five

915
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: years as a starter in the SEC in the PAC

916
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: twelve sixty one career starts count fabulous season at Oregon

917
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: a year ago. I'm not saying this team is going

918
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: to be any kind of juggernaut, but I think there's

919
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: going to be a lot of teams swimming in that

920
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: ten and seven, nine and eight area, and one of

921
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: them is going to sneak in the playoffs that no

922
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: one sees. And I think with Sean Payton plus Bo Knicks,

923
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: who apparently I think more of than you do, being

924
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: the Oregon guy, I think that they have an opportunity

925
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: to actually shock people and get in to the playoffs.

926
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 4: Well, you said be the Texans which is the division winner.

927
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 4: So you're just saying.

928
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: A playoff team, a playoff team, they're not going to

929
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: beat the Chiefs. I'm saying they're gonna sneak in as

930
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: a wildcard.

931
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 4: Well, that's less offensive than what you originally said.

932
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: Now, I never said they were going to win the division.

933
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 4: Okay, Well you said the Texans, and the Texans won

934
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: the division last.

935
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: Well, I know they won the division last year, but

936
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: I did not say that of the Broncos. They're not

937
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: going to beat the Chiefs.

938
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 3: But I did say the Raiders are a down team

939
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 3: right now.

940
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 2: I don't know quarterback situation, and I'm a big Jim

941
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: Harbaugh guy, but that team is a mess and they've

942
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: got a couple of years to get back on track.

943
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 4: I'm fully on board, by the way, with you and

944
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 4: the Chargers. I think people looked at Harrbaugh and what

945
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 4: he's done in other places. I think a media fixed.

946
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 4: I don't think they're there right now.

947
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: They didn't do a media fix in Michigan.

948
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: He lost six straight years to Ohio State before beating

949
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: him in the seventh year.

950
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 4: I agree, all right, So the Broncos, let's start with this.

951
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: C J.

952
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 4: Stroud was a better prospect coming out to the draft.

953
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 4: Then Bonnicks was right.

954
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: Well, I thought so, but then everyone was downgrading him

955
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: before the draft. I said, I know what I should

956
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: against Georgia. I mean, you look like correct.

957
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: So that was the question right for Stroud was do

958
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: we get the Georgia TJ. Stroud or do we get

959
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 4: the other twenty one games he started? And we got

960
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 4: the Georgia CJ. Stroud. There's no Bonix's organ guy, I

961
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 4: like bo Nicks. There's no Georgia game for Bonnicks. You know,

962
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: there's not that game where it's like, okay, that is

963
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 4: high level, incredible quarterback. But he's played played well throughout

964
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 4: the season. Don't get me wrong, But the talent of

965
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 4: these two players, as far as quarterbacks, in my book,

966
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 4: is different. They're they're not the same type of player.

967
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 4: So if you want to argue that the team of

968
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: the Broncos can sort of carry him along, which is

969
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 4: what you mentioned with the defense improving late last season

970
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 4: with some of the weapons that they have, the offensive

971
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 4: line's okay, not great certainly, Paul, But I don't see

972
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 4: bo Nicks having the type of season that strouded.

973
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 3: What about the Peyton factor again a year ago, it

974
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: wasn't just CJ. Stratt.

975
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: He had a rookie coach who wasn't an offensive coach.

976
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: So I mean, you're like, all right, where's where is

977
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: this guy going to be able to take his game?

978
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 2: I mean, look at we all saw the Georgia game.

979
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: At least I thought. I saw the Georgia game, and

980
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, I mean, this guy is next level.

981
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: But still he was going on to a team with

982
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: a defensive coach as his head coach, a rookie head coach.

983
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: This is a different situation with both Nicks.

984
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 2: He's going with Sean Payton, who obviously never was comfortable

985
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: with Russell Wilson, and now he selected this kid in

986
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: the first round. There's something that he likes about his game.

987
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: There's a lot I like about bo Nix's game. The

988
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: guy completed almost eighty percent of his passes last season.

989
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 4: There's a lot to like about his game. And his

990
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 4: game does match what Sean Payton wants at a quarterback,

991
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 4: which is ball out on time, efficient thrower of the football.

992
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 4: Don't take me risks. It's not as a young player,

993
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 4: but you but you need a little bit more risk

994
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 4: in my opinion, to get to where you want to

995
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 4: be a playoff quarterback, you like Nix is like the

996
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 4: next step for Nicks is taking that sort of like, okay,

997
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 4: let's say the next step and be a little more

998
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 4: aggressive and a little bit more decisive on some of

999
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 4: those passes. I think he fits well what Sean Payne

1000
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 4: wants to do. I might disagree with you there, but

1001
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 4: I don't think that in year one he's ready. Bo

1002
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 4: Nicks is for the CJ. Stroud ascension. The thing that

1003
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 4: Stroud did it was historical. As we know is he's Steve.

1004
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 4: He's an outlier, right, So if you want to say

1005
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 4: that that Dixon come in and play well and get

1006
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 4: him to a playoff, he's not going to do it

1007
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 4: the way Stroud did it. It's impossible to do that,

1008
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 4: I think with this because they're different prospects, different players

1009
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 4: on their team, different type of player themselves. I mean,

1010
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 4: we go to eight Broncos eight and nine, we think

1011
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: nine and eight.

1012
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: So last year the Broncos were eight and nine after

1013
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 2: that horrific start, so again can they improve?

1014
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: But the over runners five and a half, so they've

1015
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 3: really downgraded this team.

1016
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: You lose a veteran quarterback like Russell Wilson most likely

1017
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: starting a rookie, and bow Nicks they really downgraded him,

1018
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't believe that.

1019
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 4: So the last thing I'll say here is the reports

1020
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 4: from training camps so far. I actually asked someone today

1021
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 4: in Denver who covers the team, because I was, you know,

1022
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 4: I wanted to know about about Nicks. He made the

1023
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 4: comment that so far Stidham has been better, which is fine.

1024
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 4: It's a couple of days in the camp. I don't

1025
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 4: take much into that, Steve, but he's been better. And

1026
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 4: the things that sort of were worried about Nicks as

1027
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 4: a young player are still sort of there, right, which

1028
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 4: is the anticipation getting the ball out, you know, sort

1029
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 4: of you know, aggressively, but but don't clam up. You know,

1030
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: there's a fine line between being too aggressive. Right, But

1031
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 4: supposed today he had three reds one touchdowns, like he

1032
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 4: looked much better today in practice. So if Stidham is

1033
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 4: starting right now, of course Nisen start at some point,

1034
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 4: but the other places William is already starting, no surprise. Obviously,

1035
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 4: Daniels is already starting, no surprise. But Nix right now,

1036
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 4: it doesn't even have the one rep so it just

1037
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 4: feels like there's a long way to go.

1038
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 3: On the other side, I want to get as much

1039
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: time as it can.

1040
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 4: See.

1041
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 3: This is the thing, Jeff, we have a very limited time.

1042
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1043
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about a couple of teams,

1044
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: and I'll give you a little preview. One of them

1045
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: is a team that was two and fifteen a year

1046
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: ago in your neighborhood. That would be the Carolina Panthers.

1047
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

1048
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: And then I also want to talk about another team

1049
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: that I'll just say for you. Won't tell you exactly

1050
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 2: who it is, but I'm sure you'll have plenty to say.

1051
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: We continue on as we are off and running with

1052
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: this NFL season right here on Fox Sports Saturday Steve

1053
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: Arbin and Jeff Schwartz. Here Fox Sports Saturday. We're coming

1054
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: alive from the tyrag dot Com studios. Don't forget after

1055
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: the short podcast is going up, So if you miss

1056
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 2: any of today's show, check out the podcast. Just search

1057
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,680
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1059
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcasts. You'll see the show

1060
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: posted right after we get off the air. Well, it's

1061
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: party todd now that we are officially starting a new

1062
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: NFL season and we are just getting started here Jeff

1063
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: Schwartz and I talking about the upcoming season with training

1064
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: camps just underway. All right, I want to steer to

1065
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 2: the worst team in the NFL over the last couple

1066
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: of years.

1067
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 3: That would be the Carolina Panthers.

1068
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 2: Bryce Young had a rough rookie season, to say the least,

1069
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: onlike CJ. Stroud, who had a historic rookie season two

1070
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: and fifteen a year ago.

1071
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,479
Speaker 3: Dave Canalis, of course a protege of Pete Carroll.

1072
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll Well originally hired him to be an existent

1073
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: strength coach at USC in two thousand and nine and

1074
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: then start somewhere man to start somewhere, and then when

1075
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: he went to Seattle the next year, he brought him

1076
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 2: in as his receivers coach. And now he gets an

1077
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: obvious opportunity here. It can't get much worse, or can it.

1078
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: I guess we're gonna have to find that out.

1079
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: But give us the.

1080
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: Early buzz on Canals. What is the reception to him

1081
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: and what kind of expectations should we have for the

1082
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers in twenty twenty four.

1083
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: I know that they think Bryce Stung will be better

1084
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: this year right now, I know that it's Steve it's

1085
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 4: hard to be may be worse than last season. But

1086
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 4: last season was a dumpster fire for many reasons. Right

1087
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 4: one is that maybe Bryce Young it wasn't ready to

1088
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 4: succeed the level that Stroud was, right, I mean, that's

1089
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 4: certainly fair. It does take guys sometimes a little bit longer.

1090
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 4: At Josh Allen right as an example, where it took

1091
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 4: him a couple of years to sort of become what

1092
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 4: he is now. So it's certainly possible that it might

1093
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 4: take it might take him time. But also he's working

1094
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 4: with an offensive scheme and coaching staff that really didn't

1095
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 4: put him in the best position to win. We saw

1096
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 4: Canallis last year with Baker Mayfield put him in a

1097
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 4: great position to win, which which I mean, I think

1098
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 4: none of us thought that would be the case. With

1099
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay last season, Baker Mayfield was coming off of

1100
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 4: some some down years. He had some moments. Remember that

1101
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 4: he showed up on a Tuesday Steven played on a

1102
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 4: and played on a Thursday night maybe it was, and

1103
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 4: ended up winning that game, And I mean there were

1104
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 4: moments that that that that he showed that he could

1105
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 4: be that guy, but he wasn't what we thought he

1106
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 4: was going to be last season. So Canallas gets points

1107
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 4: for that, So I think I think, look, the goal

1108
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 4: is just to get is to get young for their

1109
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 4: first year together. Is to get him back to average average,

1110
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 4: right like if you go from if you expect him

1111
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: to be from where it was last year Steve to

1112
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 4: like great not gonna happen. Is to get him back

1113
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 4: to sort of just a baseline where you feel comfortable

1114
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 4: hanging the year three that you've done the right things

1115
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 4: in the year two to win at a higher rate

1116
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 4: in year three. That's what the goal is. This year,

1117
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 4: they have got a bigger offensive line. So when you

1118
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 4: have shorter quarterbacks. You mentioned Sean Payton. This is what

1119
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 4: the Saints did for so many years with Breeze. Is

1120
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 4: that to get the throwing lanes where you want them,

1121
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 4: you need to have big offensive linemen in the middle,

1122
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: center and two guards. And the reason why is to

1123
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 4: create those throwing lanes. If the linemen are very firm

1124
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 4: in the middle, they're big, physical guys, keep everyone the

1125
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. The lanes are easier to see the

1126
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 4: linemen sort of backing up in the quarterback slap right.

1127
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 4: They go back and look at the Saints offensive linemen

1128
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 4: in the middle. They have been huge. They've been big

1129
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 4: boys with Drew Brees for all those years. It makes

1130
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 4: a ton of sense. And that's what the Panthers did

1131
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 4: this aw season. They when it got big guards to

1132
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 4: help right down. So like they've done the right things

1133
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 4: that they They got Dante Johnson, they got their running

1134
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 4: back in the first round. They've tried their best to

1135
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 4: surround him with the necessary pieces to succeed. Now it's

1136
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 4: up to him and the coach. You have to make

1137
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 4: it happen. The defense was good last year, not great,

1138
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 4: but they have pieces there to be much better this season.

1139
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 4: They have a good a good coordinator and good defensive

1140
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 4: staff Steve, So I think they have a chance to

1141
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 4: be better than people think in a division that's not great.

1142
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 4: You know, everyone sort of knows the Falcons might be good,

1143
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 4: but that doesn't want to like pick them to be

1144
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 4: good because it's the Falcons. So I think he's got

1145
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 4: a chance win the division maybe wow wow wow wow.

1146
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 4: I think a wildcard team is certainly doable, but again,

1147
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 4: the goal is to end this season feeling like Bryce

1148
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 4: Young improved to where you can build around him in

1149
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 4: year three. Right, that's the goal of this season.

1150
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: All right.

1151
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: So you mentioned the Falcons, and obviously fortunes are expected

1152
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: to change with the Falcons with the addition of Kirk

1153
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: Cousins as their quarterback, who, by the way, is still

1154
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 2: coming off in Achilles, so we still have to see

1155
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: what kind of shape he is in. What we do

1156
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: know is a year ago before he got hurt, statistically elast,

1157
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: he was having his best season ever. Well, this coming

1158
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: off a year that can only be turned a miracle

1159
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 2: season for the Vikings, arguably the worst thirteen win team

1160
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: in the history of the NFL, eleven to zero in

1161
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 2: one score games until they ironically lose a one score

1162
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: game at home in the.

1163
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 3: Playoffs to the Giants of all teams.

1164
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: So Kevin O'Connell is back, and they go into the

1165
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: season with a guy that's still, for some reason intrigues me,

1166
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 2: and that is Sam Darnold.

1167
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but he still intrigues me.

1168
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 2: And of course JJ McCarthy's drafted out of Michigan coming

1169
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: off their national championship season. Let's talk about this Vikings team,

1170
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: because we know they were not as good as that

1171
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 2: thirteen and four record indicated. When you win eleven straight

1172
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 2: one scoring games, you know you're getting every bounce your way.

1173
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: They also engineered the greatest single game comeback in the

1174
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: history of the NFL. So a lot of things were

1175
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: working well for the Vikings. Yeah, that miracle comeback. Jeff

1176
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 2: Saturday doing a great coaching job that day.

1177
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 3: Anyway, So.

1178
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: What should we expect from the Vikings? And let's start

1179
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 2: with that quarterback position. Sam Darnold. I mean again, any

1180
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: guy that starts his career with the Jets is going

1181
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 2: to have a rough time of it. He went down

1182
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: to Carolina, but then he got to sort of a

1183
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: season and clear his head to be on a winning

1184
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: team of the forty nine ers.

1185
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 3: Do you see him hanging on to that job.

1186
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: Or are they going to try to fast pace JJ

1187
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 2: McCarthy into that starting role.

1188
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 4: Man, This was always difficult because I think McCarthy needs

1189
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 4: time to get seasoned right. But you have to know

1190
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 4: fairly early if for quarterback is good or not, because

1191
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 4: an you get a situation where you know you kind

1192
00:57:55,720 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 4: of can't plan for the future. The Packers are the

1193
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 4: best example that they got lucky. I mean, I don't

1194
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 4: know they've done this twice now, the last two quarterbacks

1195
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 4: they haven't played them, and being good a lot of times,

1196
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 4: you have to know what that guy is so you

1197
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 4: can build around them, right, And so having McCarthy sit

1198
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 4: for a year and having Donald play it, it doesn't

1199
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 4: advance your franchise at all, you know, But then again,

1200
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 4: you don't want to put McCarthy out there to get

1201
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 4: in a situation where you know he's overwhelmed and it

1202
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 4: ends up costing him sort of mental development in year one.

1203
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 4: But I have to imagine the first chance they get

1204
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 4: to play him, Steve, they're gonna do it. You just

1205
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 4: sort of sort of have to. So I would imagine

1206
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 4: he plays sooner or later. And the Vikings are interesting. Look,

1207
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 4: if you have a good left tackle, which they do,

1208
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 4: and the offensive line otherwise is not bad, you have

1209
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 4: the best wide receiver in the game, Yes, you got

1210
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 4: a chance, got a chance, right.

1211
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 2: I can ask my question about Sam Donald's this, can

1212
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: he pull a Gino Smith?

1213
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: I mean, is there any because no one?

1214
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you hadn't completely written off Geno Smith when

1215
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he emerges as a star with Seattle.

1216
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the whole world did. I mean,

1217
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 3: you just mentioned it right there.

1218
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: Sam Donald will be throwing to the best wide receiver

1219
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: talent in the league, right he will.

1220
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 4: But here's the thing about Sam Donald is the Seattle

1221
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 4: did not have a quarterback in waiting when Gino was there.

1222
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 4: I don't think so nothing to on my head is

1223
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 4: the Vikings have their quarterback in waiting, right, he's he's ready,

1224
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 4: he's McCarthy. He's there right right. And so the problem

1225
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 4: to me here, Steve, is that Donald being good doesn't

1226
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 4: advance your team anywhere because McCarthy's playing next season. So

1227
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 4: it doesn't do it doesn't do you any good for

1228
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 4: Donald unless you want to try Donald in Week eight

1229
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 4: or nine right to someone who might need him. But

1230
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 4: the future of your team is not Sam Darnold, so

1231
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 4: it does no good for him to be good. I mean,

1232
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's will do you say that?

1233
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: But I always remember the Arizona Cardinals when they said, well,

1234
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 2: the future team is not Kurt Warner, it's Matt Liner.

1235
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 3: Matt Liner is the top ten pick in the draft.

1236
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 2: He's a placeholder until we put Matt liner it in

1237
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: and the next thing you know, he's laid him to

1238
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 2: a well he was, but after his one year with

1239
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: the Giants, everyone thought whatever magic he had with the

1240
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: Rams was long gone, and then all of a sudden

1241
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: he regained it in a Cardinal uniform.

1242
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 4: No, I'm with I'm with you in the general idea

1243
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 4: of that. But Warner was the Again I hate comparing

1244
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 4: people to outliers, but he was the outliner all this, right,

1245
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 4: It's that's not normal for the for that to happen.

1246
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 4: It's But also I think the Vikings, I'll do what

1247
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 4: the similarities are sort of there with personnel, right, Larry Fitzgerald, right,

1248
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 4: and just like they're there, Bruce arians great offensive play.

1249
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 4: I think we think Kevin O'Connell can can call offense,

1250
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 4: you know, can call offense. We played that team in

1251
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 4: O eight with the Panthers here in Carolina and the

1252
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 4: playoffs that did not go well for us as a Panthers.

1253
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 4: But I I just don't see the the Vikings again,

1254
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 4: don't need Darnold to be their guy the future, and

1255
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 4: I just think they need to get McCarthy in the

1256
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 4: field as soon as possible. Hopefully obviously hopeful that it doesn't,

1257
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 4: you know, kind of stunt his development.

1258
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 3: I you know a lot of people were down on McCarthy.

1259
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 3: I don't know why. When they needed him to come

1260
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 3: up big, he came up big.

1261
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 2: I mean that was my observation. I mean, it was

1262
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: not an offense. It was going to throw the ball

1263
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 2: forty times a game. That's not Jim Harbour's Michigan offense.

1264
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: But when he needed to make plays, yeah he made

1265
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: place Oh yeah no.

1266
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 4: And so you know, he he absolutely made enough plays

1267
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 4: when it mattered the most. The thing about it is

1268
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 4: you sort.

1269
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: Of need.

1270
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 4: You just need a little bit. You need a little

1271
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 4: bit more in the NFL, more more of the offense

1272
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 4: will be required to be good.

1273
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 2: Well, there's two things again that a quarterback has to

1274
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: have in the NFL to be successful.

1275
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 3: One is accuracy. You got to be an accurate thrower

1276
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 3: or else you can't be.

1277
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: And the second thing is your brain has to work

1278
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 2: at warp speed. You have to be able to in

1279
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: a split second manufacture what it is you're going to

1280
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 2: do with the football.

1281
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 3: The quicker you can decide.

1282
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: The greatest quarterbacks are running at warp speed in their

1283
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 2: brain and a split second, they have to decide where

1284
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: to throw the ball, you know, eat it, do whatever

1285
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 2: you're going to do with the football. You have to

1286
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: be able to do that in a split second. You

1287
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 2: have to have that instinct. If you do those two things,

1288
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 2: then you can be a successive quarterback in the NFL.

1289
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,439
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Speaker 2: the newly married Brian Finley is joining us.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know you and your beautiful bride had been together

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Speaker 2: for a while, but have you noticed any difference in

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Speaker 2: her now that she is miss this is Brian fin Like.

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Speaker 7: I know what I know, and that is that she

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Speaker 7: knows that she's always right about everything. And that's sort

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Speaker 7: of the mindset you have to have.

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Speaker 2: See the reason that I'm divorced, and like Jeff's still

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Speaker 2: married and hopefully you'll be married. When people say happy wife,

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Speaker 2: happy life, my feeling was always happy me, happy life,

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Speaker 2: and so that's that's a bad thing if.

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Speaker 3: You want to be married.

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Speaker 2: Long.

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Speaker 3: Oh we could see that, Steve.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know everybody who has had a conversation with

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Speaker 2: you exactly what happy me, happy happy world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that's what you're gunning for, right yea, Oh

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Speaker 3: my good. I actually have a T shirt that says that,

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Speaker 3: by the way, happy me happy.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised because it has a cat on it because

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Speaker 2: cats are of that mentality.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, were well, And Jeff.

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Speaker 7: You should see Steve because he wears the same two

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Speaker 7: shirts every weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I swear you have like five articles of clothing

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Speaker 3: in your word.

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Speaker 2: There is no access in my in terms of underwear, socks, pants, shirts, anything.

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Speaker 7: There's no access in my life. And you can use

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Speaker 7: one pair of all of those words that you just said.

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Speaker 7: As far as clothing, one for the whole week.

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Speaker 4: That's what I do.

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Speaker 3: I actually only have six shirts.

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Speaker 2: And like you only have like two pairs of underwear,

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Speaker 2: I have two pairs of jeans, one the lesser. I

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Speaker 2: wear on the weekends if I go out of like

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Speaker 2: a you know, date night or something, So that's when

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Speaker 2: you wear your rip jeans, right, yes, So anyway, I

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Speaker 2: like to simplify. I don't know, Jeff, is your parents

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Speaker 2: have got Is your dad like to simplify things? As

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Speaker 2: he's gotten older, I don't still is he's still in

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Speaker 2: search of the answers?

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Speaker 4: No, I think I mean he he wears clothes. I

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Speaker 4: don't think he has he's clothes had I only has

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Speaker 4: six six T shirts. I think more than that.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, I don't know. As you get older,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you seem to whittle it down. That's

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Speaker 3: the way it works, at least in your world, Steve

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Speaker 3: is unlike anybody else's.

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Speaker 1: That is that is the case.

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Speaker 7: Speaking of the world, the world is watching what's going

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Speaker 7: on in the Olympics in Paris and team USA getting

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Speaker 7: that first gold, and it came to the men's for

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Speaker 7: by one hundred meter freestyle relay. So men's swimming is

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Speaker 7: where that came Katie Ledeki and women swimming for these

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Speaker 7: Stars and Stripes picking up a bronze in the four

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Speaker 7: hundred meter freestyle. So the Americans have a total of

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Speaker 7: five medals one gold. Five medals is the most out

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Speaker 7: of any country. That's tied for the most with Australia

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Speaker 7: now they have five, but they also have three golds,

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Speaker 7: two coming from swimming one in cycling team Canada, the

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Speaker 7: women said soccer coach Bev Priestman is suspended for a

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Speaker 7: year and the team is going to be docked six

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Speaker 7: points for these Olympics. After Canada decided it would be

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Speaker 7: a great idea to fly a drone over an opponent's

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Speaker 7: practice to try and get a competitive advantage. They quickly

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Speaker 7: were reprimanded because of that. Elsewhere in the Olympics, the

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Speaker 7: men's basketball team is going to start up play on

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Speaker 7: Sunday against Serbia against Nicole Jokic, and according to Steve Kerr,

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Speaker 7: who was running things for that American program, Joel Embiid

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Speaker 7: along with Anthony Davis, might miss tomorrow's game because of

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Speaker 7: illnesses that kept them out of practice today. In other

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Speaker 7: men's basketball games in the Olympics, Canada winning eighty six

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Speaker 7: to seventy nine against Greece. France got nineteen points from

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Speaker 7: Victor Runbinyama on the way to a seventy eight to

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Speaker 7: sixty six triumph over Brazil, Germany over Japan, and also

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Speaker 7: Australia winning against a lowly Spaniard team ninety two to eighty.

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Speaker 7: Men's soccer for the Americans winning four to one against

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Speaker 7: New Zealand. We also saw some interesting developments in men's

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Speaker 7: tennis when it comes to doubles, and you've got Carlos

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Speaker 7: Alcaraz and Ralfo Nadal winning their first round for Spain

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Speaker 7: in straight set seven of six to six y four

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Speaker 7: against a pair from Argentina. And on the American side

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Speaker 7: of things, in the women's doubles, Coco Goff and Jessica Pagoula.

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Speaker 7: They are into the second round after beating a pair

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Speaker 7: from Australia six ' three six ' one. In Major

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Speaker 7: League Baseball, we're seeing a few trades populate our news

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Speaker 7: channels and social media and our timelines. One would includezz

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Speaker 7: Or Jazz Chisholm going to the Marlins or from the

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Speaker 7: Marlin excuse me, to the Yankees. So yeah, Jazz Chisholm

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Speaker 7: Junior from the Marlins to the Yankees, and in exchange,

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Speaker 7: the Marlins are going to receive.

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Speaker 3: Three prospects in the deal.

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Speaker 7: And just a couple of quick notes from some of

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Speaker 7: the notable games that are going on in Major League

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Speaker 7: Baseball as of right now. We got the Twins up

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01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 7: two to one against the Tigers. That's in the sixth inning.

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Speaker 7: Some of the finals to mention, Blue Jays over the Rays, arranger,

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Speaker 7: excuse me, seven to three. The Padres had a nine

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Speaker 7: to four triumph in Baltimore against the Orioles where Manhamachado

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01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 7: went yard on a three run home run. Braves over

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01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 7: the Mets ford to nothing, and the Reds get beat

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01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 7: down by the Rays four to nothing. Two guys that

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Speaker 7: if you put them in the ring, nobody's going to

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01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 7: beat them down. Jeff Schwartz, Steve Hartman.

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Speaker 2: We are a dynamic doo, no question about that. We

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Speaker 2: have history is always important, had a lot of history.

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Speaker 2: Once again, we're coming to life from the tire rack

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Speaker 2: dot Com Studios in a very short amount of time.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to cover as much ground as I can

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Speaker 2: with Jeff. I want to get back to the forty

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Speaker 2: nine Ers for a moment here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: Courting and Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 2: No word yet on either Trent Williams or Brandon Nyuk

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Speaker 2: in terms of their contracts. What's interesting here is, I

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01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: mean Ayuk obviously has become a very favorite target of

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01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 2: Brock party, no question about his value to this team.

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Speaker 3: And then you have Trent Williams.

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Speaker 2: Trent Williams has had one of the most interesting, what

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Speaker 2: will be Hall of Fame careers ever. He played nine

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01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 2: seasons in Washington never once was named First team All Pro,

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Speaker 2: although he was like a Pro Bowl player, but not

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Speaker 2: first team All Pro. Correct, and he has made First

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01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 2: team AP All Pro each of the last three years.

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Speaker 2: He just turned thirty six, and there's no question, especially

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Speaker 2: in game the few games that he missed. The drop

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Speaker 2: off in the forty nine ers offense was dramatic. So

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Speaker 2: how much do you commit to a Trent Williams at

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Speaker 2: this point of his career and do you do so

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Speaker 2: in a manner that may cost you Ayuk?

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Speaker 4: So here is the overriding issue. Niners have all these contracts,

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01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 4: Steve is if they're gonna have to pay Brock pretty

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01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 4: sixty million dollars a year to play quarterback for them

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Speaker 4: either after this season, well, excuse me, it has to

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01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 4: be after this season at some point before next season.

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Speaker 4: That's the going rate for quarterback in the National Football

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01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 4: League after Dak gets his deal done. But also the

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01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 4: success that brock Party has had outweighs other quarterbacks that

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01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 4: are getting contracts right now from their team. So his

1441
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 4: agent will be like, guess what, we need more money.

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01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 4: We're playing well, So you cannot pay big top dollar

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01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 4: two a quarterback, a running back, a left tackle, a

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01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 4: tight end, two wide receivers. The third wide receiver. By

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01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 4: the way, Steven has a pretty good deal for a

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01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 4: third option. They'd spend a first round pick on a

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01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 4: wide receiver, a defensive end, a middle linebacker, secondary pieces.

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Speaker 4: You can't pay everyone right now. Kansas City has paid

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Speaker 4: their quarterback, has paid their tight end, has paid a

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01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 4: defensive lineman, a right tackle, and a left guard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're paying a quarterback under market value.

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Speaker 4: Sure, but even though they but the point is they

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01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 4: have only they only have five guys on these monster

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01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 4: contracts that everyone else is young. Now, they're gonna have

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01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 4: to pay the center pretty soon, but they might get ready.

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Speaker 4: The left grafter it doesn't matter the problem is that

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Speaker 4: for the Niners is you just can't pay everyone. It's

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01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 4: impossible to pay everyone that you want to pay. And

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01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 4: they're figuring out right now, who are we gonna pay now?

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Speaker 4: Trent Williams, I'd argue, at his age, there's there's some

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Speaker 4: trepidation about that, but he's playing his butt off like

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01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 4: his age is not shown at all, right, Steve Right,

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Speaker 4: So I think that what they're gonna do is they're

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Speaker 4: gonna pay Trent Williams, give him some more money, because

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01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 4: he certainly deserves to have some more money for the

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Speaker 4: way he's played. And then in the draft, the position

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01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 4: that you can find most readily available outside of the

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01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 4: first round as wide receiver, Like the Niners, I understand

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Speaker 4: them being like, you know what, we're just not gonna

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Speaker 4: pay brand Ayuk, like, like, we can just find someone else.

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Speaker 4: He's not a hundred target guy in our offense because

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Speaker 4: our offense doesn't require that, and we'll let him go

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01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 4: somewhere else and we'll just get another wide receiver in

1474
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Speaker 4: the draft, which they did, by the way, this year, right,

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01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 4: They got to go another one next year. So that's

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Speaker 4: why you're not understand on this. I think though, Patron Williams,

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01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 4: they're not gonna pay you. Maybe they trade him. I

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01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 4: don't think so. And that's the way they hope, because

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01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 4: they got to pay the quarterback all this money after

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01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 4: next season.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, I want to ask you about

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01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 2: one more team, very publicized team that also has got

1484
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 2: to make some decisions on some rather large contracts.

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Speaker 3: I think you know who we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman and Jeff Schwartz,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: We're live from the tai iraq dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank our crew today, the newly red

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Speaker 2: Ryan Family, beefan little skipping his stat no question about that,

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Speaker 2: he's riding high now. Are brilliant producer Patrick who did

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Speaker 2: not have to come up with a question for me today,

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Speaker 2: And who's your daddy?

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Speaker 3: So you can save that up for next.

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Speaker 2: Week, Pat, I'm gonna save you two of them. Steve,

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Speaker 2: I know you got a couple weeks to prepare for that.

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Speaker 2: We've got a double show next week with Monsey returning.

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Speaker 2: And of course Mary Mack, who apparently dug in my

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Speaker 2: brain today to come up with a music bed that

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Speaker 2: I knew every single song throughout the show today.

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Speaker 3: Which was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Normally I don't know any of the songs you play,

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Speaker 2: you and Monsei team up against me, but today I was.

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Speaker 3: With in the mood to be like, you know what,

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01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 3: what what's Steve want to hear today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go old school there, and you did that,

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Speaker 2: Mary Mack, thank you so much, great stuff as always.

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Speaker 2: All right, so Jeff in our final segment together, here

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Speaker 2: see how quick this show is.

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Speaker 3: Very fast, very very fast. Let's talk about the Dallas

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Speaker 3: Cowboys for a second here.

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Speaker 2: The bad news for the Cowboys is that they will

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Speaker 2: not be NFC East Champions this year. We know that

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01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 2: because no team has repeated his NFC East Champs since

1515
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 2: Andy Reid and the Eagles rattled up four straight NFC

1516
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: East titles between.

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01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 3: One and four. Twenty years yeah, twenty years since the

1518
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,759
Speaker 3: team repeated his NFC East champs.

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01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 2: Future Hall of Famers Zach Martin gave the Cowboys some

1520
01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 2: hope when he actually restructured his deal to give him

1521
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 2: cap relief. If one guy really should not have done that,

1522
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 2: it was Zach Martin. I mean, he's at least based

1523
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 2: on his Hall of Fame meter. Number one on that team.

1524
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 2: He's a sure fire Hall of Famer. But what do

1525
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 2: you do with Michael Parson? You know, ce d Lamb situation. Obviously,

1526
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: with Dak Prescott, let's start with Okay, I want to

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01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 2: start with Michah Parsons. And I say that because I

1528
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: heard you early in our conversation with Adam Kaplan talking

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01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 2: about you that he's earned the right to be the

1530
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: highest paid non quarterback in the league, and that seems

1531
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 2: to be not well okay.

1532
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 4: So no, no, no, he said he wants to be

1533
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 4: paid like the highest non quarterback in the in the NFL.

1534
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this about Michael Parsons, because

1535
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 2: I hear a lot of different things about Michael Parsons.

1536
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he does some of the glossy stuff really well,

1537
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 2: but there's other people that say Michael Parsons overall over.

1538
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,919
Speaker 2: So how much commitment are you gonna make to Micaeh Parsons,

1539
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 2: hm is. I'll put it this way, who's more valuable

1540
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 2: Michaeh Parsons to their defense or Dak Prescott to their offense.

1541
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 4: Oh, I'd argue the quarterbacks always more valuable, but that's

1542
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 4: probably not the best way to go about deciding who

1543
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 4: gets paid and who doesn't because you you need a

1544
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 4: pass rusher like him on your team, right, I mean

1545
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 4: it's a value position where you look at him and

1546
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 4: just as a pass rusher in general, and he's very

1547
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 4: talented and very good. I saw some of the off

1548
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 4: the ball linebackers, so I just kind of wish they

1549
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 4: would stop doing that with him and just let him

1550
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 4: be a full time pass rusher because I think what

1551
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 4: his bread and butter is, right, and off the ball

1552
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 4: stuff is kind of quirky and fun sometimes, but like,

1553
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 4: let's just get let's let him play what he's destined

1554
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 4: to be, which is a pass rusher. So I uh,

1555
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 4: I think that it's it'd be hard to pass a

1556
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 4: player like that up. It'd be almost unprecedented, I think,

1557
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 4: to let a player like that walk without trying to

1558
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 4: get him a second contract, right, I mean, I can't

1559
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 4: think of anyone the top of my head right now

1560
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 4: that a pass rusher of that elk that just said

1561
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 4: the team was like, yeah, we're just not we're not paid.

1562
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:20,560
Speaker 3: The Bears got rid of him, but did they They.

1563
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 4: Had they already paid him at least once before.

1564
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 3: I think they had. Yeah, But Obviously he came to

1565
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 3: the charges and showed he had plenty of gats.

1566
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 4: I'm talking about like he hasn't even paid yet, Like

1567
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 4: the second contract. I know teams have in the rebuild

1568
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 4: modes have traded away those type of players I'm just

1569
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 4: talking about from the first team to play on to

1570
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 4: get rid of it before you even get a second contract.

1571
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 4: It's probably unprecedented. So I think they're gonna have to

1572
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 4: do it. Steve, the Cowboys questions come down to this,

1573
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 4: and they have to figure this out. I know there's

1574
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 4: plenty of talk about what this answer is is is

1575
01:17:55,960 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott the guy who's winning you Super Bowl or

1576
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 4: someone else?

1577
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 3: Okay, let's stop right there. Let's answer that question.

1578
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 2: So Dak Prescott last year was runner up in the

1579
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 2: MVP voting to Lamar Jackson, had a fabulous season regular season,

1580
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 2: and then just disastrous playoff game at home against the Packers.

1581
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 2: There's no other way to describe it, a disaster. Well,

1582
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: the numbers looked that was all garbage time, folks. All

1583
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 2: the number any numbers he put up in the game

1584
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 2: were garbage time.

1585
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 3: And so he's won two.

1586
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 2: Playoff games or is he won one? I'm A one

1587
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 2: or two, and so I always said this about quarterbacks.

1588
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 2: I mean, there are exceptions, obviously, but usually if you

1589
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 2: haven't gotten to that level by your third or fourth year,

1590
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 2: it ain't there.

1591
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 3: It ain't there.

1592
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I would say he's not a super winning quarterback.

1593
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 4: That's just my my take on very very kind of

1594
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 4: just a quick pass at that. I just I don't

1595
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 4: see it from him. Here's the thing, what people will

1596
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,719
Speaker 4: say about the playoffs so small sample size, small sample size.

1597
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 4: I mean, guy like Dak Prescott gets judged on quarterback,

1598
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 4: I mean, on on on on playoff games like that's

1599
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 4: he gets paid to win those games. Like that's no

1600
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 4: matter what you're doing the regular season, you are paid

1601
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 4: to win the playoff games. Yeah, right now, You're paid

1602
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 4: to get there obviously, but you gotta win those playoff games.

1603
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 4: Like I don't understand this idea. I do want to

1604
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 4: say the idea behind it, but but the if you

1605
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 4: are getting paid that much money, you have to win

1606
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 4: your playoff games. That's what the NFL is and he

1607
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 4: has not done that yet.

1608
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that he will consistently two and five

1609
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 3: in playoffs starts.

1610
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1611
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, Lamar Jackson's the same guy. We

1612
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 2: haven't even mentioned really the Ravens today.

1613
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, people get really angry when you mentioned Lamar Jackson

1614
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 4: hasn't played well as well in the postseason.

1615
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 3: Well, it's just fact, I mean.

1616
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 2: But again, I still go back to last year's AFC

1617
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 2: Chamonsi game, Like, what the heck were they thinking? Yeah, well,

1618
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 2: he was going to outthrow Patrick Mahomes. That was your

1619
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 2: game plan.

1620
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 4: It was a bad idea.

1621
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes you have to think about that.

1622
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: All right, Any last second, thoughts about a Cinderella team

1623
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: here that no one's talking about.

1624
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 3: Since I gave you the Broncos, I said the Panthers.

1625
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 2: Maybe Panthers to make the playoffs and hey, the worst

1626
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 2: division in the NFL.

1627
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 3: Jeff, it's great to talk to you. As always. We'll

1628
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 3: do it again down the road. Just keep it here, folks.

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Speaker 3: More coming up. This is Fox Sports Radio.