Speaker 1: This is Suckers.
Speaker 2: I'm Kilin Bell, I'm Dean Bell, and I'm Jared han
Speaker 2: An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3: Hello everybody, and welcome to an all new episode of Suckers. Jared,
Speaker 3: how's it going over there? Actually, let me say this
Speaker 3: real quick. So our lovely Easton, who we all love
Speaker 3: so much, he posted something yesterday about this mishap that
Speaker 3: I had when we were recording back in the day,
Speaker 3: I was golfing and I wasn't able to make it
Speaker 3: on time. Shocker. I've gotten better at being on time,
Speaker 3: but it used to be a big issue of mine.
Speaker 3: And there's a few things I noticed in that clip.
Speaker 3: That clip is probably about four years old at this point,
Speaker 3: maybe even older, maybe five four and a half. We'll
Speaker 3: just say four just for the record, And there was
Speaker 3: a couple things that I just immediately noticed about it.
Speaker 3: First and foremost, Jared, your hair was amazing. Your mustache
Speaker 3: was awesome. I don't know if you and Easton got
Speaker 3: together and decided to do with this thing together, but
Speaker 3: you both had this long see hair with these beautiful
Speaker 3: thick mustaches, and oh my god.
Speaker 1: Dude, we were young and wild and free. Those were
Speaker 1: the days long hair and mustaches. It's crazy how different
Speaker 1: you looked in that video. Did you watch the video.
Speaker 1: I just watched the video. It's crazy how your hair
Speaker 1: was so long and you just had the mustache. I
Speaker 1: think that's probably the only phase of life that I've
Speaker 1: seen you in. I'm just having a mustache. And your
Speaker 1: audio setup was so good. Why don't we have that
Speaker 1: fancy microphone anymore? Bro? I got a microphone right air,
Speaker 1: and it sounds great, just you know.
Speaker 3: Out of frames. So maybe I can't see it, but
Speaker 3: you had that weird thing in front of the microphone
Speaker 3: that like, I don't know what it does, that like
Speaker 3: a little circular thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that did it, Yeah, some sort of.
Speaker 1: I think that was for the wind, which there was
Speaker 1: no wind in that hotel room. But yeah, I was
Speaker 1: on voice metal the past couple weeks. Listen, Bro, I'm
Speaker 1: just slinging out egg sandwiches and coffee over here, just
Speaker 1: trying to grind, grind in.
Speaker 3: Guys. What's this bandage you've got on your arm? So
Speaker 3: there's I think it's a spider bite or something. I
Speaker 3: woke up this morning and it was like a little
Speaker 3: inflamed and there's little bite. So some something bit me
Speaker 3: and then Ashley put this cream on it. Oh nice,
Speaker 3: it looked like a bandage from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I didn't even notice that was at work
Speaker 1: this morning and I was like, damn, my arms itchy.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, good God, what the hell is that?
Speaker 3: Kaylen loves spiders. She's obsessed with spiders. What. Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 3: I don't know what her fascination with them is, but
Speaker 3: every time she sees a spider, she gets all excited,
Speaker 3: runs around the house with a smile on her face.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's exactly how I react.
Speaker 3: Caylen, how are you. I'm going to talk to you
Speaker 3: in forever?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I haven't talked to you in so long.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty good, that's it.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm good. Back in our old stomping grounds,
Speaker 2: the place we call home. We're back for a week
Speaker 2: and a half and then we go to Alaska.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's crazy. You're the one that's traveled so much lately,
Speaker 3: and I just feel like I'm the stay at home husband.
Speaker 4: Yeah, until Alaska, that's your time to shine.
Speaker 3: But then we're going together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Oh, and I was supposed to go to Ashville last
Speaker 3: weekend for a bachelor party, but I did not go. Jared,
Speaker 3: you remember when you were asking me about that and
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I'm not really excited to go,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna go. Yeah, you're going golfing, Yeah, we're
Speaker 3: going golf in I woke up. I had a nine
Speaker 3: am flight out of Denver. It's three and a half
Speaker 3: hours from our house to drive to Denver. So I
Speaker 3: woke up at four. It no, and I like could
Speaker 3: have made it, but I might have missed it, and
Speaker 3: I just like was in this. I just realized. I
Speaker 3: was like, I just don't want to. I just don't
Speaker 3: want to drive that far. It's a three and a
Speaker 3: half hour drive and to a three and a half
Speaker 3: hour flight, and I just decided. I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: not going. So I still need to call my friend.
Speaker 1: Did you come up with an excuse or did you
Speaker 1: just tell them I don't want to go?
Speaker 3: Guys, I'm sorry. I told him I overslept, which is
Speaker 3: which is true. And then I was like it was
Speaker 3: just too much traveling for me. I'm so sorry I
Speaker 3: can't make it. So I ended up not going. I
Speaker 3: feel guilty about it, but it's just so it's it's
Speaker 3: such I hate driving to Denver. I really just hate
Speaker 3: it so much. Three and a half hours. It feels
Speaker 3: like it's it might as well be ten at that
Speaker 3: point because it just feels like it takes so.
Speaker 4: Long, so long.
Speaker 2: And I got from New York, had to drive back,
Speaker 2: and then we went back to Denver two days later.
Speaker 2: So it's been a lot of travel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if my friends are listening to this, that
Speaker 3: we're at the bachelor party. Klein was gone and so
Speaker 3: I had to take care of Alistair and the dog
Speaker 3: boarding place doesn't open until like seven am, so I
Speaker 3: couldn't bring him to the boarding place. And yes, I
Speaker 3: had a friend that was going to come pick him
Speaker 3: up and take him, but I just felt so bad
Speaker 3: leaving our dog alone.
Speaker 4: Especially we're going to be gone for like two weeks.
Speaker 3: I feel like a bad friend. But I think I'd
Speaker 3: rather be a bad friend than a bad dog owner.
Speaker 4: Interesting, I stand by that.
Speaker 3: Maybe I think I think that's how I feel. Of course,
Speaker 3: super sure about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the dog is more of a responsibility than
Speaker 1: the friend.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. The friend isn't going to die if
Speaker 3: I don't show up. The dog would die if I
Speaker 3: left him, And.
Speaker 4: We're going to the wedding and that's what's most important.
Speaker 3: Hopefully we're still invited. Oh true, But he didn't come
Speaker 3: to my bachelor party too, so I felt a little vindicated, like, hey,
Speaker 3: you didn't come to me to invite him. Oh of course, Yeah,
Speaker 3: of course. It was kind of the same thing as you. Like,
Speaker 3: you live on the East Coast, he lives on the
Speaker 3: East Coast. Invited both of you guys, and I totally
Speaker 3: get it, Like, you don't want to come all the
Speaker 3: way to we were doing it in Nevada. You don't
Speaker 3: want to come all the way to Nevada for a
Speaker 3: two or three day drunk fest with a bunch of
Speaker 3: people that you kind of know but not really. So
Speaker 3: I think we're out of the woods on that one.
Speaker 3: But I still need to call him and talk to
Speaker 3: him about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you should do that today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna do it yesterday but I forgot.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's basically that's catching you guys up to
Speaker 3: speed on our lives.
Speaker 4: Well, we also went to a concert.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, do you know who Ryan Bingham is?
Speaker 1: Jared? Now, I'm sure I know a song or two.
Speaker 2: I guess you don't wantch Yellowstone, you don't watch TV.
Speaker 2: So he's an actor in Yellowstone and he's also a singer,
Speaker 2: very popular singer.
Speaker 4: So we went to his concert.
Speaker 2: I was so excited, but we were just going to
Speaker 2: pop in for a quick hour drive to Denver see
Speaker 2: my grandparents. It's like the midway point between where we
Speaker 2: live and Denver. So we were like, let's go get dinner,
Speaker 2: let's miss the first act because we don't care whoever's
Speaker 2: opening for him. And then we get there as soon
Speaker 2: as he goes on and I can't access my tickets.
Speaker 2: And I try to access them on my desktop two
Speaker 2: days before and they were like, you have to download
Speaker 2: them day of like right before you go in. So
Speaker 2: I'm like trying to do that and I'm getting I
Speaker 2: got two emails. It's like there's a new way to
Speaker 2: get your tickets now. Now there's a new way to
Speaker 2: get your tickets. And they kept transferring them but not
Speaker 2: telling me how to access them. So we go to
Speaker 2: the box office and he's like, I only deal with Tickster.
Speaker 4: It was this whole thing.
Speaker 2: So I call stub Hub and they were they're like,
Speaker 2: I think they're through Tickster, but at that point the
Speaker 2: box office closed. But they were great. I as annoying
Speaker 2: as it was. StubHub was great and we got a refund.
Speaker 1: So so you didn't go to the concert.
Speaker 4: We didn't, but we got to It was on a
Speaker 4: lake and we got to listen to the music. What
Speaker 4: are you shaking your head for?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm saying we didn't go to the concert, Jerry asked,
Speaker 3: I'm shaking my head. No, we did not go to the.
Speaker 4: Contryt Yeah, but we got to listen from the lake,
Speaker 4: watch the sunset.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it was fine. I like Ryding bring
Speaker 3: them a lot.
Speaker 4: Dean was not excited about this concert at all.
Speaker 3: I like Ryan Bingham probably more than you do. Well,
Speaker 3: I listened to him more than you do, at least
Speaker 3: on this sal sad of him and.
Speaker 4: Come, why are you so not excited to go?
Speaker 3: I'm just getting old and being out in public scares me.
Speaker 1: Maybe, dude, you're such a homebody now, it's crazy crazy.
Speaker 4: He was so excited. When we were like, we're not going,
Speaker 4: he was like.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, and also we were driving to Denver from
Speaker 3: our house and.
Speaker 4: So but we were just popping in for a quick hour.
Speaker 3: I know, but you know, how those quick hours turned
Speaker 3: into multiple hours and I'm the one driving and I'm tired.
Speaker 4: He's a grumpy old man these days.
Speaker 3: Hey, oh my gosh, I'm not grumpy. I just am
Speaker 3: getting old. Real I'm aging every day that goes by
Speaker 3: age a week, so I'm aging seven times faster than
Speaker 3: the normal human being right now.
Speaker 4: He's so dramatic.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about this last week when we were
Speaker 3: talking about why, because Jared was like, I can't believe
Speaker 3: you moved back to your hometown, Like I would never
Speaker 3: would have expected that for you, And I agree. I
Speaker 3: think the reason that I don't like traveling so much
Speaker 3: anymore versus when we lived in Vegas was because when
Speaker 3: we were in Vegas, like we didn't really have any
Speaker 3: friends to hang out with. Our social circle was a
Speaker 3: lot smaller, and so we would travel to La or
Speaker 3: we would travel internationally because that was the way of
Speaker 3: getting our fill of like hanging out with people or
Speaker 3: ourselves or doing whatever. But here, like, we have a
Speaker 3: lot more friends around us, and so it's, you know,
Speaker 3: it's more fun to be here because there's a lot
Speaker 3: more going on socially that we can do with our people, a.
Speaker 2: Lot more friends and there's always something going on, always
Speaker 2: something to do.
Speaker 4: They really Packedice Town full of events.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great, Rowing Pork Valley, check it out.
Speaker 4: Check it out. It's fun. Come say hi.
Speaker 1: My question for you guys is because you brought up
Speaker 1: an interesting thought in my head earlier. Who do you
Speaker 1: think is needier between the two of you. The reason
Speaker 1: I bring that up is because last night, well, let
Speaker 1: me explain the context of neediness and then you can
Speaker 1: answer whether who's more needy in this perspective. So last
Speaker 1: night just actually, it's so she wants to watch TV.
Speaker 1: She's like, why can't you watch a show with me?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't want to, And then
Speaker 1: I was like, unless you want to watch Seinfeld, especially
Speaker 1: before I go to bed. Oh sorry, especially before we
Speaker 1: go to bed, Like I want to watch comfort show.
Speaker 1: I want to fall asleep feeling good. She wants to
Speaker 1: watch this new Jake Gillenhall show. I don't know it's about.
Speaker 1: He's a lawyer. And then there's no spoilers. Someone dies
Speaker 1: and he's being accused of killing this person, and so
Speaker 1: I forget the name of it.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: Presumed innocence, presumed innocent, or presumed Innocence. I can't remember
Speaker 1: one of those two, but anyway, so she's watching it
Speaker 1: and it's like the most anxiety inducing show. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like watch this before I go to bed.
Speaker 1: So I'm on my computer again, emails done, just doing
Speaker 1: odd and end things, and then we're laying in bed
Speaker 1: together like it's very nice. She's watching her show. I'm
Speaker 1: on my computer like I think it's fine, and then
Speaker 1: she just like I'm like, I'm gonna, you know, fall asleep.
Speaker 1: And then she gets like all pissy because she's just like,
Speaker 1: we never spend time together, and I'm like, well, this
Speaker 1: is time together. Like I understand what you're saying. She's like,
Speaker 1: why can't you just hold me? And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: know we can hold each other at times, but like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to watch this show. And then I'm
Speaker 1: just getting working mils done and we're lying in bed
Speaker 1: together and I think it's cute. This is what married
Speaker 1: couples do. And she's like, well, I just feel like
Speaker 1: we don't spend time together anymore. I'm like, yo, we
Speaker 1: went to dinner together with me. It's just like we
Speaker 1: have a kid. The three of us went to dinner.
Speaker 1: Of course, our entire focus is on Dawson because he's
Speaker 1: running around, he's being cute twenty four to seven, So
Speaker 1: we're just focusing on him. And so we went to
Speaker 1: dinner as a family, came home, gave Dawson bath, put
Speaker 1: into bed. We're both super tired. He doesn't go to
Speaker 1: bed till ten. She wants to watch the show, so
Speaker 1: I'm like, you watch the show. I'm fine, I'll be
Speaker 1: on the computer. And then she just gets upset at
Speaker 1: me because she's just like I need more. I need
Speaker 1: you to hold me, and I'm like, yeah, but I'm not,
Speaker 1: like I don't know. Also, you know, you got a
Speaker 1: big ass belly right now. It's kind of uncomfortable for
Speaker 1: everybody involved. So it's just like, you know, so I
Speaker 1: was tickling her arm. I don't know. So my question
Speaker 1: for you is is that in your relationship as well,
Speaker 1: where like you guys one person, you guys could be
Speaker 1: lying next together or sitting next to each other, or
Speaker 1: even like you know, we were interacting throughout the show
Speaker 1: at times. But it's just like, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm the type of person where I'm if I'm there,
Speaker 1: like in the room with you. I feel like we're
Speaker 1: spending time together.
Speaker 2: I think that's a scene out of Sex and the
Speaker 2: City one or two the movie, but with Bak and Carrie. Anyways,
Speaker 2: that's all I was thinking about the whole time. I
Speaker 2: think we go in waves where I'm needier and then
Speaker 2: sometimes you're needier. You might disagree with that, but sometimes
Speaker 2: you're like, you never cuddle me anymore. So we both
Speaker 2: kind of feel that sometimes I.
Speaker 3: Need validation sometimes, but you also need validate. I guess
Speaker 3: we're kind of equal planes on that. I will say
Speaker 3: to this specific scenario. We don't do it often, but
Speaker 3: sometimes I really like when Killen's like, I like watching
Speaker 3: her show, and then I come into the room, and
Speaker 3: then she knows I don't like the shows that she watches,
Speaker 3: so she'll either mute it and we'll talk, or she'll
Speaker 3: change it to something else. But there are times where
Speaker 3: I'll walk in I'll be like, keep watching your crappy show,
Speaker 3: because it's kind of nice for me to just like
Speaker 3: sit here on my phone and do a crossword puzzle
Speaker 3: and not have to worry about, like focusing on the show,
Speaker 3: because I don't really want to watch a TV show
Speaker 3: right now. So you watch your TV show and I'll
Speaker 3: just play on my phone kind of thing. So we'll
Speaker 3: do that occasionally, and I don't think you've ever well
Speaker 3: maybe you have done that where you're like I need
Speaker 3: you to cut on me right now or something like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but we like the same crappy TV show
Speaker 2: sometimes I just really quickly want to talk on The
Speaker 2: Perfect Match, which is such a good show. Has Ashley
Speaker 2: watched that? Actually such a bad good show? Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a it's a really bad show, but it's entertaining.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's an okay show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Bachelor in Paradise, but we'ren cheer.
Speaker 1: It's on Netflix, people, And then they have for more
Speaker 1: reality TV personalities, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, any Netflix reality person, anyone from ah and there's
Speaker 2: so many.
Speaker 3: Let me let's back it up for a second, because
Speaker 3: we were talking about it on the last episode on
Speaker 3: the finale, when there's like two people that we maybe
Speaker 3: we didn't like watching them, but when they were on
Speaker 3: the screen, that's when you were paying attention, and yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: and whenever they weren't on the screen, you just kind
Speaker 3: of felt like you were watching a bunch of nothingness.
Speaker 3: And I think we pointed that out to each other
Speaker 3: last time we were watching it. Yeah, so it's like
Speaker 3: a good show, but there is a lot it drags.
Speaker 2: A lot it does, and Harry Cholsey is just he's
Speaker 2: just not a good guy.
Speaker 4: I've come to the conclusion.
Speaker 3: He's definitely a piece of crat. But he's fun to watch.
Speaker 4: He's so fun to watch.
Speaker 2: But also I think he should do a masterclass in
Speaker 2: gas lighting because I've never seen someone do it execute
Speaker 2: it so well. It's insane. He's like crying and he's like,
Speaker 2: don't call me an f boy, but then he does,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so infuriating.
Speaker 3: It was infuriating too.
Speaker 1: He doesn't admit to being a nen f boy.
Speaker 2: No, He's like, that's my past, that's my dating for marriage.
Speaker 2: I'm dating for marriage. And I'm like, that's how you
Speaker 2: sleep with women. You tell every woman that, and that's how.
Speaker 3: You sleep with that kind of asked him his like
Speaker 3: his moves a little bit. Yeah, but he's a hilarious
Speaker 3: to watch in interviews because like when you watch Bachelor
Speaker 3: in Paradise, people are always kind of like tight lipped
Speaker 3: about their true intentions, and then you're watching Harry and
Speaker 3: he's talking about like hooking up with as many people
Speaker 3: as possible and like all this stuff, and you're like,
Speaker 3: this is what most guys are thinking. And yes, he's
Speaker 3: probably more extreme than than anyone that we know, but
Speaker 3: he's like he's just saying it, and you don't often
Speaker 3: get reality people that are just like that, that candid
Speaker 3: about that kind of stuff. Yeah, and so it's refreshing
Speaker 3: to hear him like talk about it, and he'll like
Speaker 3: laugh at himself and all that stuff. So he's just
Speaker 3: like so unseerious. And then when he tries to get serious,
Speaker 3: you're like, no, we know you're not that serious. So
Speaker 3: like you're gaslighting this girl or manipulating her to think
Speaker 3: that you're serious when we all are seeing these interviews
Speaker 3: and we know that you're not serious. Yeah, so from
Speaker 3: our perspective, it's clear gaslighting and the whole Like, no,
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I will spoil a little bit
Speaker 3: real quick, but like, you know, he kissed someone else,
Speaker 3: but then he was.
Speaker 2: Telling the girl he's dating that he didn't and he's like,
Speaker 2: I would never do that to your daughter, like I
Speaker 2: love Autumn, I love your daughter, And he did it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did it, and the whole time he was
Speaker 3: saying it too. They edited it really well because they
Speaker 3: didn't show that until the very end of the series, yeah,
Speaker 3: or the season, And so the whole time you're like it,
Speaker 3: do I believe him? Do I believe her? And the
Speaker 3: whole time. I mean, at least I can only speak
Speaker 3: for us too, but I imagine the audience has to be
Speaker 3: thinking what we were thinking too. The whole time. We're like,
Speaker 3: you definitely made out with there, Like this girl's not
Speaker 3: going to just make up some story to get into
Speaker 3: this thing, so.
Speaker 2: Much worse than even the girl was saying it was. Also,
Speaker 2: Holly from the show said that he told producers he
Speaker 2: was going to leave the show if they aired it,
Speaker 2: so he was like trying to manipulate them too in
Speaker 2: this situation. Anyways, you and Ashley should watch it because
Speaker 2: it's a pretty entertaining shown.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't watch Yeah, this is actually quite ironic.
Speaker 1: I don't watch reality TV.
Speaker 4: Just a Bachelor or do you even watch The Bachelor?
Speaker 1: I watch the I mean I definitely keep up with
Speaker 1: The Bachelor. I don't watch every episode, and I support
Speaker 1: the show so much and I think it's a wonderful show,
Speaker 1: and I root for everybody to watch it, and we
Speaker 1: do watch parties at Audrey's. But yeah, I'd be lying.
Speaker 3: If I said, like I watch every episode.
Speaker 1: It's just reality TV. I can't really get into it,
Speaker 1: which is obviously very funny because it's given me so
Speaker 1: much of my life. But do you think that there's
Speaker 1: an argument to me made that the women who are
Speaker 1: dating Harry, like don't they know who he is? Shouldn't
Speaker 1: they kind of be aware that he's gonna lie to them.
Speaker 3: That's the whole thing, And this is another conversation piece.
Speaker 3: To the girl he was dating at first, was like,
Speaker 3: I'm just a little cautious going into this relationship because
Speaker 3: of your reputation, and he's.
Speaker 4: Then he'd start crying.
Speaker 3: He breaks down, starts crying, and he's like, I just
Speaker 3: wish someone would treat me for me and not however
Speaker 3: anyone else sees me. And it's like, okay, well you
Speaker 3: have a reputation for a reason.
Speaker 2: He would cry anytime someone called him an F boy
Speaker 2: or whatever it was. It was so manipulative.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is a massive manipulator. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: He's given us F boys a bad name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, not every FBO is that bad?
Speaker 3: He's given us f boys a bad name out there,
Speaker 3: but he is entertaining. He's good television.
Speaker 1: It's a very different scenario, but it kind of reminds me,
Speaker 1: if you take a step back of the changing topics
Speaker 1: a little bit, Bill Belichick and his girlfriend. Have you
Speaker 1: heard about this? Where Bill Belichick's seventy four and he's
Speaker 1: dating a twenty four year old?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: How old is he?
Speaker 3: He's like seventy?
Speaker 4: Who is Bill Belichick? Why is it sound familiar?
Speaker 3: Coach of the Newland Patriots. He was Tom Brady's coach
Speaker 3: when they won all these Super Bowls? What a creep Well? No,
Speaker 3: is it creepy? Okay?
Speaker 4: Twenty four and seventy Yes, what are you talking?
Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Here's the thing? Maybe, yes,
Speaker 3: I'm not disagreeing with you that it's not creepy. They
Speaker 3: both know what they're doing. He is getting a beautiful
Speaker 3: young girl to hang out with. She's getting a rich
Speaker 3: old nan to hang out with. Do you think she's
Speaker 3: in it for the will I would only imagine. I
Speaker 3: can't imagine her being in it for the looks or
Speaker 3: the conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not a very handsome.
Speaker 3: Conclusions there, but what are you what are your opinions
Speaker 3: of it?
Speaker 1: Jared, Well, my question because I remember talking to someone
Speaker 1: and they said, that's so disturbing, and they meant it
Speaker 1: was disturbing on the part of Bill Belichick, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: who's it. If we're gonna put just like percentages on,
Speaker 1: is it more disturbing on his perspective or hers? Like
Speaker 1: if you want to call it creepy, which I'm not
Speaker 1: denying it's freaking weird. Of course, it is, like, why
Speaker 1: would this twenty four year old want a dat a
Speaker 1: seventy year old? And then conversely, because she does look
Speaker 1: pretty young, Like I get, I get why he would, like,
Speaker 1: of course he's seventy years old. If he has the
Speaker 1: opportunity to be intimate with a twenty four year old,
Speaker 1: like he's probably going to expec he's single, so whatever,
Speaker 1: But to like date her is a whole different scenario.
Speaker 1: My question for you, though, is like who if you
Speaker 1: were doing, because you know, everybody's like, oh, it's so creepy,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's weird. Who's more creepy? Because I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: the idea that this twenty four year old like just
Speaker 1: being wooed or like being manipulated or seduced by this
Speaker 1: seventy year old is crazy to me. She knows what
Speaker 1: she's doing, She's voluntarily being in this consensual relationship with
Speaker 1: a seventy year old, And like we're putting all the
Speaker 1: blame on Bill Belichick's it, I still.
Speaker 2: Am putting a lot of the blame on him because
Speaker 2: I don't think he's necessarily grooming her by any means.
Speaker 2: But he's got money, he's got power, he's got fame, notoriety,
Speaker 2: he says all of these things. This is an impressionable
Speaker 2: young girl, where like, yes, she put herself in that
Speaker 2: situation and knows what she's doing, But I think still
Speaker 2: most of the blame goes to him.
Speaker 3: So I think you could see it from either perspective.
Speaker 3: I would say it's fifty five.
Speaker 4: Of course you men want to put it on the women.
Speaker 1: Sure, maybe it's not that, it's just more so like
Speaker 1: if it was, let's flip gender roles, if it was
Speaker 1: a seventy year old woman and a twenty four year
Speaker 1: old man, would it be.
Speaker 3: As bad, Yeah, I think it would be. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's as bad as Kaylin said, because like think
Speaker 3: about it. It's not if she was like eighteen, right,
Speaker 3: like fresh, no longer a minor. Yes, but at twenty
Speaker 3: three year pre frontal cortex, especially as a girl, is
Speaker 3: more formed than it would be five years prior. So,
Speaker 3: like I said, they both are getting something out of it.
Speaker 3: He's getting to date a hot, younger girls. She's getting
Speaker 3: to date a rich older man. And I definitely see
Speaker 3: why it's creepy. It's creepy for both of them, but
Speaker 3: they're both consenting adults, like Jared said, so it's not
Speaker 3: like it's that bad. I think if she was eighteen, yeah,
Speaker 3: very very creepy. Twenty three, twenty four is you know
Speaker 3: when I was twenty three, Yes, I was kind of
Speaker 3: a dips but at least I like was kind of
Speaker 3: more aware of my actions and I was more formed
Speaker 3: as a human being. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: she's getting flown around on private jets, getting it to
Speaker 3: go out to all these fancy events, getting treated probably
Speaker 3: like a queen.
Speaker 4: It's just weird.
Speaker 3: It's weird. Oh, it's weird. Weird and creepy can be
Speaker 3: different things, though, right, it's definitely weird.
Speaker 4: It's creepy too.
Speaker 3: It's weird seeing them together because it's like she's literally
Speaker 3: young enough to be his granddaughter.
Speaker 1: No, it's definitely weird to see them together.
Speaker 4: Does he have kids and grandchildren?
Speaker 1: Jared, Yeah, he has. I don't know if he's grandchild.
Speaker 1: His kids are definitely like in their late thirties early forties,
Speaker 1: they're much older than this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It really messes me up when people date younger
Speaker 2: than their kids, Like, I hate that.
Speaker 4: I think that's so gross.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Steven Belichick is one of his kids. He's thirty seven.
Speaker 2: It just reminds me of that book that I just read,
Speaker 2: The Idea of You, and they just came out with
Speaker 2: the movie. But in the book, I think she's forty
Speaker 2: forty two, the woman, and then she's dating someone who's
Speaker 2: eighteen or nineteen and her daughter is sixteen. It's creepy,
Speaker 2: like the daughter should be dating him, you know, she's
Speaker 2: in that age change to date him, and then the
Speaker 2: mom's dating him.
Speaker 4: I don't know, weird, No.
Speaker 3: I see your point. Like I said, though, I think
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, they're both getting what
Speaker 3: they want, and so it's you can't I'll just.
Speaker 4: Never be pro like a massive age gap.
Speaker 3: What's the biggest age gap you can think is.
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's actually pretty hard. I was gonna
Speaker 4: say ten.
Speaker 3: Is that ten standard?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think. I mean the thing that's it's hard for
Speaker 3: us to pass judgment because totally we heard when we
Speaker 3: first started dating, I felt like I was way too
Speaker 3: old to be dating you. I was twenty seven, you
Speaker 3: were twenty three, yeah, and I was like, wow, this
Speaker 3: girl's way too young for me. So I can't imagine
Speaker 3: being seventy two and you being twenty three, because I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know either.
Speaker 1: I guess when when I look at it, because I know,
Speaker 1: like Belichick, right, he's he's gonna I mean, he's seventy,
Speaker 1: so like hopefully he has at least another ten to
Speaker 1: fifteen years in him, you know, before he kicks the bed.
Speaker 1: So like, I'm sure he's not taking this relationship seriously
Speaker 1: at all, you know, because there's no future unlet sae,
Speaker 1: you're talking about the next ten years. Yeah, but with her.
Speaker 1: See That's why I'm like, I don't there's no blame
Speaker 1: to be they're in a consensual relationship. But if we're
Speaker 1: just talking about it, I'm curuire is like what her
Speaker 1: perspective on the relationship is if she's like, has feelings
Speaker 1: for him and sees the future, or if she's just
Speaker 1: sleeping with him.
Speaker 4: She just looked him up.
Speaker 2: She looks like a baby, like that could be his
Speaker 2: sixteen year old granddaughter.
Speaker 1: She looks young. That's the other part. She looks young.
Speaker 1: She looks like a young twenty four year old. This
Speaker 1: is terrible, a little weird. What do her parents think?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I would feel better about it if they
Speaker 1: both were just like, Oh, we're just hanging out and
Speaker 1: like we have, you know, no plans for the future,
Speaker 1: and we're not we're not dating. So I wonder if they, like,
Speaker 1: does she call him her boyfriend? You know, I'm very
Speaker 1: curious about the interworkings of this relationship.
Speaker 2: Now, wait, she is pageants and she I'm helping this
Speaker 2: girl miss Main USA with miss competing for Miss Usa.
Speaker 4: She was her second runner up.
Speaker 3: Oh look at that.
Speaker 1: Oh what you gotta reach out to this girl?
Speaker 3: Those pageant girls are always a little unpredictable.
Speaker 4: I guess we're crazy.
Speaker 1: I didn't say that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what you were alluding to. No, it's blowing
Speaker 4: my mind. I what is she thinking it.
Speaker 3: Would be weird if your stepmom is ten years younger
Speaker 3: than you, Right, that's weird.
Speaker 1: This is my final thoughts on it. I agree that
Speaker 1: I think that it's too like, it's just too much.
Speaker 1: It's too much. I'm all for a big age gap
Speaker 1: as long as you guys are happy and healthy and
Speaker 1: are both on the same page, I could really care less.
Speaker 1: But at this point, if it's about fifty years, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm curious what her thoughts are in terms
Speaker 1: of the future of the relationship or maybe they're just
Speaker 1: having fun, who knows. And I'm curious what his thoughts
Speaker 1: are in terms of like being able to relate to
Speaker 1: her in any capacity.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm curious how they met.
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't have Instagram, I'm guessing she didn't slide
Speaker 2: into his DMS.
Speaker 3: My thing is, let's say, let's say Bill does get
Speaker 3: ten more years. I think he'll have more you know,
Speaker 3: eighty two is pretty young considering modern medicine, a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff. So let's say let's say fifteen years, she'll
Speaker 3: be thirty thirty nine in her mid thirties. Your throat,
Speaker 3: you're not throwing away some of the best years of
Speaker 3: your life. But you are drastically changing, you know, these
Speaker 3: super formative mid to late twenty year olds.
Speaker 2: I hope she didn't want to win Miss USA because
Speaker 2: she's not winning Miss Maine USA after this.
Speaker 3: That's too much scandal.
Speaker 4: Yes, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: If you look up her name, this is all that
Speaker 2: it is. Okay, So they meet on a flight. Then
Speaker 2: what they exchange numbers?
Speaker 3: Hey, you're cute. Oh my gosh, she was what she
Speaker 3: would be twenty one at the time.
Speaker 4: That's so much.
Speaker 1: But he'd only be he'd be in his sixties.
Speaker 3: As long as they're both happy and they know what
Speaker 3: they're doing, that's good.
Speaker 1: According to TMZ, they've been living together for months.
Speaker 3: What I mean, if I was seventy two and you
Speaker 3: divorced me in I was super loaded, did go there?
Speaker 3: Would I be? I don't even think. I don't think
Speaker 3: I could pull it off.
Speaker 1: It's not about pulling it well, if if you were
Speaker 1: seventy two, even if you weren't loaded or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But then this young, attractive twenty four year old was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to be with you. I mean, would you
Speaker 1: say no?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe you would, Maybe I would because
Speaker 1: it'd be like, listen, it's too much, it's too weird,
Speaker 1: it's too much.
Speaker 2: Can't be the first time he's been approached by a
Speaker 2: young girl, right, or did he just get divorced.
Speaker 4: Or is he newly single?
Speaker 1: He's him and this woman, Linda Holiday. They were together
Speaker 1: for like sixteen years and they broke up last year,
Speaker 1: so I guess, like, I don't know define your definition
Speaker 1: of like recently single. So I don't know. It's interesting
Speaker 1: stuff though, good topic of conversation for the podcast.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of who the equivalent went be
Speaker 3: for you if you were twenty four, fresh off your
Speaker 3: pageant days and John Stamos was like, Ooh, I think
Speaker 3: you're really cute. You want to be my girlfriend?
Speaker 4: Well, John Stamos is like, we'll always be kind of hot.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 1: So if Belichick was a hot seventy year old, is.
Speaker 4: John Stamos seventy.
Speaker 3: He's sixty and he is hot for He's definitely a hot, you.
Speaker 2: Know, hotter than It's so different because and maybe she's
Speaker 2: like a big Patriots fan, but like growing up watching
Speaker 2: Full House having a crush on Uncle Jesse is different
Speaker 2: than like, unless she had a crush on the coach.
Speaker 3: Let's see. But do you see what you're doing right now?
Speaker 3: You're you're kind of justifying it for a guy that
Speaker 3: you like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no, but you're yeah, I am, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: So it's fine.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you can see how another person could
Speaker 3: do that for someone else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess she could have been a big
Speaker 2: fan and I don't know. But the thing is too
Speaker 2: like Bill Belichick was always still John Stamos, I would
Speaker 2: still say no. I just want to make that clear.
Speaker 2: But you're throwing in a very attractive man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I would. You would not say you. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say no to John.
Speaker 3: I would say no either. With Bill Belichick specifically, because
Speaker 3: you're right, John Stamos, Harold, this is like a really
Speaker 3: attractive man. We grew up with him all that. Bill
Speaker 3: Belichick was always kind of like the butt of the
Speaker 3: joke when I came to like what he wore on
Speaker 3: the sidelines. And you know, I don't think anyone's ever
Speaker 3: really called him hot before, So it is a different
Speaker 3: it is a different situation. But just because we find
Speaker 3: him unattracted doesn't mean everyone finds him unattracted, right, So
Speaker 3: I'm just I want to give her a little bit
Speaker 3: of grace there. Maybe maybe she does think he's super
Speaker 3: hot and fun and quirky and cool to be around.
Speaker 3: But we'll never know. I mean, we might know at
Speaker 3: some point, but we don't know right now.
Speaker 1: So now I'm looking up actresses in their sixties to
Speaker 1: see if there's anybody that I would be like. I
Speaker 1: can't wait.
Speaker 4: Why sixties, It's got to be seventies.
Speaker 1: I know, But I'm just trying to, like play because
Speaker 1: John Stamos was in his he's sixties, so I was
Speaker 1: trying to find in his thirties versus twenties.
Speaker 4: So what about Jane Fonda? Would you guys?
Speaker 3: I don't think i'd find her very attractive.
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton, you know who? I do find it super attractive.
Speaker 1: First of all, Demi Moore, Yeah, I still would. I
Speaker 1: had a huge crush on Kim Basinger growing up.
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say, Julia Lewis, Louis
Speaker 3: drey Fiss, whatever he is, Elaine from Seinfeld, Yeah, she's.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I love she's what That's kind
Speaker 3: of like a John Stamos thing where we grew up
Speaker 3: watching her and she was always well every guy that
Speaker 3: watched Seinfeld thought that Elaine was super hot.
Speaker 1: I think, I mean I did what Oh I didn't
Speaker 1: think Elaine was that hot? Oh yeah, okay, so there
Speaker 1: She's just like that is very interesting?
Speaker 4: Was the appeal?
Speaker 3: It's a really good question. I have no idea. She's
Speaker 3: just kind of a bit. She was one of the
Speaker 3: maybe she was one of the few leading women on
Speaker 3: TV at the time. Maybe that's not true, but like
Speaker 3: she was at least for the shows that I watched.
Speaker 1: You know who's absolutely stunning, and I'm curious what she
Speaker 1: looks like now as well. She's sixty what is she
Speaker 1: sixty four? Sixty six? Michelle Pfeiffer.
Speaker 3: I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1: I mean there's some I yeah, I mean if she
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: How old is that guy who's always an Aspen Yellowstone
Speaker 2: actor Kurt.
Speaker 3: Russell, No, not on Yellowstone.
Speaker 1: Kevin Costner.
Speaker 4: Kevin Costner?
Speaker 3: How is he he's got to be up there? You
Speaker 3: think he's fair?
Speaker 1: He's in his seventies to be fair, yes, you would.
Speaker 2: That would make more sense to me, like if the
Speaker 2: if this girl is dating Kevin Costner, yes.
Speaker 1: This was him last week. He looks great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's hot seven five.
Speaker 1: I love Kevin Costner.
Speaker 3: Not my type, but I don't really know him well
Speaker 3: enough to have an opinion of it.
Speaker 2: Well, actually he was just dating like a twenty one
Speaker 2: year old, so he's a little creepy.
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick's just in his Leonardo DiCaprio fase.
Speaker 4: Al Old's Leo like fifty.
Speaker 3: It's also just so different when you think about actors
Speaker 3: versus head football coaches. Like actors you grew up watching
Speaker 3: on television, you can I can see why someone would
Speaker 3: be like invested in them personally because you got to
Speaker 3: watch them on television all the time or movies or whatever.
Speaker 3: But a football coach, like he doesn't really have a
Speaker 3: persona outside of coaching, so there's nothing really to be
Speaker 3: attracted to other than his money in his fame, I guess.
Speaker 3: But like you know, you watch someone on television, you
Speaker 3: can get attracted to the character of the play or
Speaker 3: the interviews that they're doing, and so you get to
Speaker 3: know more about them. But Belichick has always kind of
Speaker 3: been like a stone wall, so he never really liked
Speaker 3: gave great interviews. He's always just kind of like direct
Speaker 3: and blunt and not really charismatic, but he was a
Speaker 3: great coach, so everyone gave him the pass for that.
Speaker 4: I'm just still not over how they met.
Speaker 2: And in this interaction they're chatting whatever movie, she's like
Speaker 2: a big Patriots fan, My dad's a big Patriots fan.
Speaker 4: And then at the end of.
Speaker 2: The flight, she's like, can I get your number? What
Speaker 2: a mesh of the two sports and pageants.
Speaker 3: Who would have thought everyone would have thought, you mean sarcastic.
Speaker 2: I guess it's happened before Tim Tebow, You and me,
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 3: Me and you?
Speaker 2: You and me?
Speaker 4: Are you sports?
Speaker 3: I play sports golf, I played a sport before.
Speaker 4: Man hannahs Less.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right there.
Speaker 4: That's it happens quite frequently.
Speaker 3: And you were always telling saying that pageant girls want
Speaker 3: to make the transition into sports broadcasting, so maybe this
Speaker 3: is her way to get a leg up on the competition.
Speaker 4: Could be I think she ruined her chances with that.
Speaker 3: For just for pageant winning though, and.
Speaker 4: Sports broadcasting you think, I mean maybe?
Speaker 3: I mean nepotism is still running rampant in today's day
Speaker 3: and age, So it's not impossible, is that nepotism? Yeah, Like,
Speaker 3: if you if you want.
Speaker 4: It's like your dad.
Speaker 3: I think nepotism applies to relationships as well, like if
Speaker 3: your if your boyfriend is high up in a company,
Speaker 3: he can get you a job opportunity easier just because
Speaker 3: they're connected somehow. I could be wrong, but that's just
Speaker 3: my interpretation of it.
Speaker 4: Okay, what an intriguing conversation.
Speaker 3: Wow, Bill, much like that? Who are we happier for?
Speaker 3: Bill or the girl? What's her name? Jordan?
Speaker 4: Jordan?
Speaker 3: Neither Bill.
Speaker 4: I saw it on the table of your He was
Speaker 4: gonna say.
Speaker 1: Bill, because I was like why, Yeah, because Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I don't know what she's getting
Speaker 1: out of it. I don't know what she's getting out
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 3: I mean maybe, but she's flying coach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but is that gonna last?
Speaker 4: Do you think she's flown coach?
Speaker 3: Since that's a really good point. It's a really good point.
Speaker 3: She's like, I'm sick of sitting back here in these
Speaker 3: cramp seats. I gotta find MEO. Well, I think that's
Speaker 3: gonna do it for this week's episode of Suckers, Is
Speaker 3: there anything else you guys want to touch on before we
Speaker 3: say goodbye? Today?
Speaker 4: He hit it all.
Speaker 3: We did hit it all. I'm so proud of us.
Speaker 3: Just like Bill, we're flying coach to next week's episode.
Speaker 3: You never know who you're gonna meet. Maybe we'll suck
Speaker 3: just a little bit less.
Speaker 4: That was cute.
Speaker 3: Thanks,