WEBVTT - Needy Moments 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.160 This is Suckers. 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.600 I'm Kilin Bell, I'm Dean Bell, and I'm Jared han 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:07.280 An iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:14.680 Hello everybody, and welcome to an all new episode of Suckers. Jared, 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:18.759 how's it going over there? Actually, let me say this 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.120 real quick. So our lovely Easton, who we all love 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:26.759 so much, he posted something yesterday about this mishap that 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:28.680 I had when we were recording back in the day, 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:31.120 I was golfing and I wasn't able to make it 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:34.360 on time. Shocker. I've gotten better at being on time, 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.159 but it used to be a big issue of mine. 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:38.800 And there's a few things I noticed in that clip. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.680 That clip is probably about four years old at this point, 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.599 maybe even older, maybe five four and a half. We'll 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:48.159 just say four just for the record, And there was 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.640 a couple things that I just immediately noticed about it. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.240 First and foremost, Jared, your hair was amazing. Your mustache 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:55.880 was awesome. I don't know if you and Easton got 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.160 together and decided to do with this thing together, but 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.400 you both had this long see hair with these beautiful 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.200 thick mustaches, and oh my god. 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:07.360 Dude, we were young and wild and free. Those were 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.560 the days long hair and mustaches. It's crazy how different 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.280 you looked in that video. Did you watch the video. 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.399 I just watched the video. It's crazy how your hair 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.880 was so long and you just had the mustache. I 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:20.640 think that's probably the only phase of life that I've 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.680 seen you in. I'm just having a mustache. And your 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:25.760 audio setup was so good. Why don't we have that 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.440 fancy microphone anymore? Bro? I got a microphone right air, 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:31.520 and it sounds great, just you know. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.080 Out of frames. So maybe I can't see it, but 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:34.839 you had that weird thing in front of the microphone 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.320 that like, I don't know what it does, that like 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:37.280 a little circular thing. 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:39.399 I don't know if that did it, Yeah, some sort of. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.360 I think that was for the wind, which there was 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.959 no wind in that hotel room. But yeah, I was 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.640 on voice metal the past couple weeks. Listen, Bro, I'm 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.280 just slinging out egg sandwiches and coffee over here, just 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.760 trying to grind, grind in. 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.760 Guys. What's this bandage you've got on your arm? So 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.480 there's I think it's a spider bite or something. I 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.120 woke up this morning and it was like a little 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.760 inflamed and there's little bite. So some something bit me 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.680 and then Ashley put this cream on it. Oh nice, 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:06.840 it looked like a bandage from it. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.440 Yeah, that's I didn't even notice that was at work 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.720 this morning and I was like, damn, my arms itchy. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.040 And I'm like, oh, good God, what the hell is that? 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:19.560 Kaylen loves spiders. She's obsessed with spiders. What. Yeah, it's weird. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.520 I don't know what her fascination with them is, but 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.800 every time she sees a spider, she gets all excited, 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.120 runs around the house with a smile on her face. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:28.440 Yeah, it's exactly how I react. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:32.480 Caylen, how are you. I'm going to talk to you 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:32.919 in forever? 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:34.880 Oh my gosh, I haven't talked to you in so long. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:36.760 I'm pretty good, that's it. 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:42.160 Well, yeah, I'm good. Back in our old stomping grounds, 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.880 the place we call home. We're back for a week 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:47.519 and a half and then we go to Alaska. 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.519 Yeah. It's crazy. You're the one that's traveled so much lately, 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.120 and I just feel like I'm the stay at home husband. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.840 Yeah, until Alaska, that's your time to shine. 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:56.720 But then we're going together. 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:57.840 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.799 Oh, and I was supposed to go to Ashville last 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.239 weekend for a bachelor party, but I did not go. Jared, 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.000 you remember when you were asking me about that and 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.119 I was like, yeah, I'm not really excited to go, 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.280 but I'm gonna go. Yeah, you're going golfing, Yeah, we're 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:11.960 going golf in I woke up. I had a nine 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.720 am flight out of Denver. It's three and a half 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:16.359 hours from our house to drive to Denver. So I 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.760 woke up at four. It no, and I like could 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.320 have made it, but I might have missed it, and 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.000 I just like was in this. I just realized. I 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:25.560 was like, I just don't want to. I just don't 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:26.799 want to drive that far. It's a three and a 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:28.320 half hour drive and to a three and a half 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.359 hour flight, and I just decided. I was like, I'm 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.280 not going. So I still need to call my friend. 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.600 Did you come up with an excuse or did you 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.000 just tell them I don't want to go? 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.160 Guys, I'm sorry. I told him I overslept, which is 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:41.760 which is true. And then I was like it was 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.280 just too much traveling for me. I'm so sorry I 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.080 can't make it. So I ended up not going. I 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:50.119 feel guilty about it, but it's just so it's it's 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.160 such I hate driving to Denver. I really just hate 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.640 it so much. Three and a half hours. It feels 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.160 like it's it might as well be ten at that 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:58.920 point because it just feels like it takes so. 0:03:58.880 --> 0:03:59.440 Long, so long. 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.280 And I got from New York, had to drive back, 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.280 and then we went back to Denver two days later. 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.320 So it's been a lot of travel. 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:09.120 Yeah, and if my friends are listening to this, that 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.920 we're at the bachelor party. Klein was gone and so 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.680 I had to take care of Alistair and the dog 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.240 boarding place doesn't open until like seven am, so I 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.599 couldn't bring him to the boarding place. And yes, I 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:21.840 had a friend that was going to come pick him 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:23.640 up and take him, but I just felt so bad 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.080 leaving our dog alone. 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.320 Especially we're going to be gone for like two weeks. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.800 I feel like a bad friend. But I think I'd 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:32.840 rather be a bad friend than a bad dog owner. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.000 Interesting, I stand by that. 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.239 Maybe I think I think that's how I feel. Of course, 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:40.000 super sure about that. 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.800 Yeah, yeah, the dog is more of a responsibility than 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:43.200 the friend. 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:45.720 Yeah yeah, yeah. The friend isn't going to die if 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:47.320 I don't show up. The dog would die if I 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:48.240 left him, And. 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.279 We're going to the wedding and that's what's most important. 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.440 Hopefully we're still invited. Oh true, But he didn't come 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.960 to my bachelor party too, so I felt a little vindicated, like, hey, 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.560 you didn't come to me to invite him. Oh of course, Yeah, 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.400 of course. It was kind of the same thing as you. Like, 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:03.760 you live on the East Coast, he lives on the 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.159 East Coast. Invited both of you guys, and I totally 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:07.640 get it, Like, you don't want to come all the 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.240 way to we were doing it in Nevada. You don't 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.040 want to come all the way to Nevada for a 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.640 two or three day drunk fest with a bunch of 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.760 people that you kind of know but not really. So 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:18.760 I think we're out of the woods on that one. 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:19.880 But I still need to call him and talk to 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:20.440 him about it. 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:21.679 Yeah, you should do that today. 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.520 Yeah, I was gonna do it yesterday but I forgot. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.440 But yeah, that's basically that's catching you guys up to 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:27.320 speed on our lives. 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:28.560 Well, we also went to a concert. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:30.920 Oh yeah, do you know who Ryan Bingham is? 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.919 Jared? Now, I'm sure I know a song or two. 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:35.960 I guess you don't wantch Yellowstone, you don't watch TV. 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:39.960 So he's an actor in Yellowstone and he's also a singer, 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:41.080 very popular singer. 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:42.760 So we went to his concert. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.320 I was so excited, but we were just going to 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.560 pop in for a quick hour drive to Denver see 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:51.600 my grandparents. It's like the midway point between where we 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.400 live and Denver. So we were like, let's go get dinner, 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.240 let's miss the first act because we don't care whoever's 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.839 opening for him. And then we get there as soon 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.560 as he goes on and I can't access my tickets. 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.000 And I try to access them on my desktop two 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:08.800 days before and they were like, you have to download 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.040 them day of like right before you go in. So 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.520 I'm like trying to do that and I'm getting I 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.560 got two emails. It's like there's a new way to 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.200 get your tickets now. Now there's a new way to 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.880 get your tickets. And they kept transferring them but not 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.240 telling me how to access them. So we go to 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.480 the box office and he's like, I only deal with Tickster. 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:26.200 It was this whole thing. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:31.200 So I call stub Hub and they were they're like, 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.280 I think they're through Tickster, but at that point the 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.840 box office closed. But they were great. I as annoying 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:38.720 as it was. StubHub was great and we got a refund. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.760 So so you didn't go to the concert. 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:43.680 We didn't, but we got to It was on a 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:45.560 lake and we got to listen to the music. What 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:46.520 are you shaking your head for? 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.880 Well, I'm saying we didn't go to the concert, Jerry asked, 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.400 I'm shaking my head. No, we did not go to the. 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.000 Contryt Yeah, but we got to listen from the lake, 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:54.120 watch the sunset. 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.000 I mean, yeah, it was fine. I like Ryding bring 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:57.440 them a lot. 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.800 Dean was not excited about this concert at all. 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.040 I like Ryan Bingham probably more than you do. Well, 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:03.880 I listened to him more than you do, at least 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.760 on this sal sad of him and. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.800 Come, why are you so not excited to go? 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.400 I'm just getting old and being out in public scares me. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:18.600 Maybe, dude, you're such a homebody now, it's crazy crazy. 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.760 He was so excited. When we were like, we're not going, 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:23.320 he was like. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.320 Yes, well, and also we were driving to Denver from 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:27.920 our house and. 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:29.920 So but we were just popping in for a quick hour. 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:31.880 I know, but you know, how those quick hours turned 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:36.280 into multiple hours and I'm the one driving and I'm tired. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:38.920 He's a grumpy old man these days. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.800 Hey, oh my gosh, I'm not grumpy. I just am 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.760 getting old. Real I'm aging every day that goes by 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.120 age a week, so I'm aging seven times faster than 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:48.560 the normal human being right now. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:49.720 He's so dramatic. 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:52.920 I was thinking about this last week when we were 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.200 talking about why, because Jared was like, I can't believe 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.240 you moved back to your hometown, Like I would never 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.080 would have expected that for you, And I agree. I 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:00.960 think the reason that I don't like traveling so much 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.360 anymore versus when we lived in Vegas was because when 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.680 we were in Vegas, like we didn't really have any 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:07.600 friends to hang out with. Our social circle was a 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.400 lot smaller, and so we would travel to La or 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.920 we would travel internationally because that was the way of 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.320 getting our fill of like hanging out with people or 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.880 ourselves or doing whatever. But here, like, we have a 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.280 lot more friends around us, and so it's, you know, 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.400 it's more fun to be here because there's a lot 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.080 more going on socially that we can do with our people, a. 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.320 Lot more friends and there's always something going on, always 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:29.360 something to do. 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:31.280 They really Packedice Town full of events. 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.800 Yeah, it's great, Rowing Pork Valley, check it out. 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:35.520 Check it out. It's fun. Come say hi. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.600 My question for you guys is because you brought up 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:42.120 an interesting thought in my head earlier. Who do you 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.960 think is needier between the two of you. The reason 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.719 I bring that up is because last night, well, let 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.640 me explain the context of neediness and then you can 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:57.000 answer whether who's more needy in this perspective. So last 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:02.040 night just actually, it's so she wants to watch TV. 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:03.640 She's like, why can't you watch a show with me? 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.760 And I was like, I don't want to, And then 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:07.560 I was like, unless you want to watch Seinfeld, especially 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.520 before I go to bed. Oh sorry, especially before we 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.120 go to bed, Like I want to watch comfort show. 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.200 I want to fall asleep feeling good. She wants to 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.920 watch this new Jake Gillenhall show. I don't know it's about. 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:22.640 He's a lawyer. And then there's no spoilers. Someone dies 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.720 and he's being accused of killing this person, and so 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:27.800 I forget the name of it. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:28.080 Oh. 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.760 Presumed innocence, presumed innocent, or presumed Innocence. I can't remember 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.280 one of those two, but anyway, so she's watching it 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.600 and it's like the most anxiety inducing show. So I'm like, 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:39.960 I don't feel like watch this before I go to bed. 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.920 So I'm on my computer again, emails done, just doing 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.560 odd and end things, and then we're laying in bed 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:48.679 together like it's very nice. She's watching her show. I'm 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.640 on my computer like I think it's fine, and then 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.640 she just like I'm like, I'm gonna, you know, fall asleep. 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.560 And then she gets like all pissy because she's just like, 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.280 we never spend time together, and I'm like, well, this 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.840 is time together. Like I understand what you're saying. She's like, 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.520 why can't you just hold me? And I'm like, I 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.880 know we can hold each other at times, but like, 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.400 I'm not going to watch this show. And then I'm 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.240 just getting working mils done and we're lying in bed 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.079 together and I think it's cute. This is what married 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.480 couples do. And she's like, well, I just feel like 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.720 we don't spend time together anymore. I'm like, yo, we 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.840 went to dinner together with me. It's just like we 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:24.680 have a kid. The three of us went to dinner. 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:26.800 Of course, our entire focus is on Dawson because he's 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:28.680 running around, he's being cute twenty four to seven, So 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:30.800 we're just focusing on him. And so we went to 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.719 dinner as a family, came home, gave Dawson bath, put 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.679 into bed. We're both super tired. He doesn't go to 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.680 bed till ten. She wants to watch the show, so 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.400 I'm like, you watch the show. I'm fine, I'll be 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.520 on the computer. And then she just gets upset at 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.920 me because she's just like I need more. I need 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.280 you to hold me, and I'm like, yeah, but I'm not, 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.719 like I don't know. Also, you know, you got a 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.880 big ass belly right now. It's kind of uncomfortable for 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:57.840 everybody involved. So it's just like, you know, so I 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.400 was tickling her arm. I don't know. So my question 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.480 for you is is that in your relationship as well, 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.720 where like you guys one person, you guys could be 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.440 lying next together or sitting next to each other, or 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.760 even like you know, we were interacting throughout the show 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.480 at times. But it's just like, I don't know. I 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.400 guess I'm the type of person where I'm if I'm there, 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.679 like in the room with you. I feel like we're 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:18.680 spending time together. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:20.960 I think that's a scene out of Sex and the 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:25.720 City one or two the movie, but with Bak and Carrie. Anyways, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.080 that's all I was thinking about the whole time. I 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.760 think we go in waves where I'm needier and then 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.360 sometimes you're needier. You might disagree with that, but sometimes 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.679 you're like, you never cuddle me anymore. So we both 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:38.839 kind of feel that sometimes I. 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.719 Need validation sometimes, but you also need validate. I guess 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.320 we're kind of equal planes on that. I will say 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.760 to this specific scenario. We don't do it often, but 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.880 sometimes I really like when Killen's like, I like watching 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:52.720 her show, and then I come into the room, and 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.680 then she knows I don't like the shows that she watches, 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.200 so she'll either mute it and we'll talk, or she'll 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:58.800 change it to something else. But there are times where 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:00.960 I'll walk in I'll be like, keep watching your crappy show, 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:02.920 because it's kind of nice for me to just like 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:04.720 sit here on my phone and do a crossword puzzle 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.320 and not have to worry about, like focusing on the show, 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.040 because I don't really want to watch a TV show 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:10.439 right now. So you watch your TV show and I'll 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.520 just play on my phone kind of thing. So we'll 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.880 do that occasionally, and I don't think you've ever well 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.240 maybe you have done that where you're like I need 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:18.679 you to cut on me right now or something like that. 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.320 But yeah, but we like the same crappy TV show 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.880 sometimes I just really quickly want to talk on The 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.480 Perfect Match, which is such a good show. Has Ashley 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:31.319 watched that? Actually such a bad good show? Yeah, it's 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.200 a it's a really bad show, but it's entertaining. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.480 It's it's it's an okay show. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:40.520 Yeah, it's like Bachelor in Paradise, but we'ren cheer. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.760 It's on Netflix, people, And then they have for more 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:45.600 reality TV personalities, right. 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:50.480 Yeah, any Netflix reality person, anyone from ah and there's 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:51.960 so many. 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:54.680 Let me let's back it up for a second, because 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:56.600 we were talking about it on the last episode on 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:02.240 the finale, when there's like two people that we maybe 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:03.800 we didn't like watching them, but when they were on 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.320 the screen, that's when you were paying attention, and yes, yeah, 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.880 and whenever they weren't on the screen, you just kind 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:10.680 of felt like you were watching a bunch of nothingness. 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.199 And I think we pointed that out to each other 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.080 last time we were watching it. Yeah, so it's like 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.120 a good show, but there is a lot it drags. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:21.960 A lot it does, and Harry Cholsey is just he's 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:23.040 just not a good guy. 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:24.880 I've come to the conclusion. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.720 He's definitely a piece of crat. But he's fun to watch. 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:27.640 He's so fun to watch. 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.920 But also I think he should do a masterclass in 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:35.200 gas lighting because I've never seen someone do it execute 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.720 it so well. It's insane. He's like crying and he's like, 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.160 don't call me an f boy, but then he does, 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:42.920 Oh my god, it's so infuriating. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:44.160 It was infuriating too. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.360 He doesn't admit to being a nen f boy. 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.680 No, He's like, that's my past, that's my dating for marriage. 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.280 I'm dating for marriage. And I'm like, that's how you 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.880 sleep with women. You tell every woman that, and that's how. 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.640 You sleep with that kind of asked him his like 0:13:56.679 --> 0:14:00.000 his moves a little bit. Yeah, but he's a hilarious 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.480 to watch in interviews because like when you watch Bachelor 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.079 in Paradise, people are always kind of like tight lipped 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.480 about their true intentions, and then you're watching Harry and 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.720 he's talking about like hooking up with as many people 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.679 as possible and like all this stuff, and you're like, 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.600 this is what most guys are thinking. And yes, he's 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.960 probably more extreme than than anyone that we know, but 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.400 he's like he's just saying it, and you don't often 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.560 get reality people that are just like that, that candid 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.640 about that kind of stuff. Yeah, and so it's refreshing 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.320 to hear him like talk about it, and he'll like 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.480 laugh at himself and all that stuff. So he's just 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.480 like so unseerious. And then when he tries to get serious, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.360 you're like, no, we know you're not that serious. So 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:40.160 like you're gaslighting this girl or manipulating her to think 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.600 that you're serious when we all are seeing these interviews 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.080 and we know that you're not serious. Yeah, so from 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:48.400 our perspective, it's clear gaslighting and the whole Like, no, 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:50.800 I mean, I guess I will spoil a little bit 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.480 real quick, but like, you know, he kissed someone else, 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:55.160 but then he was. 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.160 Telling the girl he's dating that he didn't and he's like, 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.360 I would never do that to your daughter, like I 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.400 love Autumn, I love your daughter, And he did it. 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.840 Yeah, he did it, and the whole time he was 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.560 saying it too. They edited it really well because they 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.680 didn't show that until the very end of the series, yeah, 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.240 or the season, And so the whole time you're like it, 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.040 do I believe him? Do I believe her? And the 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:15.800 whole time. I mean, at least I can only speak 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.840 for us too, but I imagine the audience has to be 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:19.800 thinking what we were thinking too. The whole time. We're like, 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.280 you definitely made out with there, Like this girl's not 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.240 going to just make up some story to get into 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:26.080 this thing, so. 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.720 Much worse than even the girl was saying it was. Also, 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.640 Holly from the show said that he told producers he 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:35.960 was going to leave the show if they aired it, 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:37.680 so he was like trying to manipulate them too in 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.520 this situation. Anyways, you and Ashley should watch it because 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.440 it's a pretty entertaining shown. 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:47.080 Yeah. I don't watch Yeah, this is actually quite ironic. 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:48.360 I don't watch reality TV. 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.000 Just a Bachelor or do you even watch The Bachelor? 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.000 I watch the I mean I definitely keep up with 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.280 The Bachelor. I don't watch every episode, and I support 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.440 the show so much and I think it's a wonderful show, 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.480 and I root for everybody to watch it, and we 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.400 do watch parties at Audrey's. But yeah, I'd be lying. 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:05.720 If I said, like I watch every episode. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:07.600 It's just reality TV. I can't really get into it, 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.360 which is obviously very funny because it's given me so 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:12.600 much of my life. But do you think that there's 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.360 an argument to me made that the women who are 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:19.680 dating Harry, like don't they know who he is? Shouldn't 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.400 they kind of be aware that he's gonna lie to them. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.560 That's the whole thing, And this is another conversation piece. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.160 To the girl he was dating at first, was like, 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.560 I'm just a little cautious going into this relationship because 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:30.920 of your reputation, and he's. 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:31.720 Then he'd start crying. 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.920 He breaks down, starts crying, and he's like, I just 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:36.720