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Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio. Ahoy, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: And uh, that's all there is to it, although I

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Speaker 1: the earthquake that triggered the landslide, the landslide, the damn,

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00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: the lake filling up in six months, the lake breaking

428
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: and flooding, that all this happened within a single year.

429
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 1: That is definitely the kind of thing that your culture

430
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: is going to make note of and pass down over

431
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: the years, that this kind of thing can happen. And

432
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: then not only that this great person came along and

433
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: freed us from the burden of these floodwaters that apparently

434
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: stuck around for twenty years. That's right, It's pretty cool.

435
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: There's another one that is just beyond thrilling. If you

436
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: ask me that a lot of people say this is probably,

437
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 1: this is possibly and I think that's a that's a

438
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 1: big reasons A lot of like mainstream geologists have problems

439
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: with geo mythology as we we can't really see a

440
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: course to getting to the point we were saying, this

441
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: is the one. This is this flood that we have

442
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: evidence of is what gave rise to the epic of

443
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: Gilgamesh and Noah's story. But you can say there's a

444
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: really good chance that this this is the one, this

445
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: fits the bill, and this one does kind of stick

446
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: out like that, that's right, this one. Uh. In the

447
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: nineties that became fairly popular that basically said there was

448
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: oceanographer named William Ryan and another guy named Walter Pittman. Uh.

449
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: They were I think in the early two thousand's, and

450
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: they said that rising sea levels at one point caused

451
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: a Mediterranean to burst through the Bosporus straight about seven

452
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: thousand years ago. And this was a like a legit

453
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: serious flood that I'm sure seemed like a flood, like

454
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: a global type of thing. Uh. It created a waterfall

455
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: a volume two hundred times that of Niagara Falls, and

456
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: I think enough water in one day they could have

457
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: flooded Manhattan by three thousand feet. Yeah, that's that's a flood.

458
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: It's quite a bit. They also determined that the um

459
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: the Mediterranean Sea moved inland. The coast moved inland by

460
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: about a mile a day. Can you imagine seeing that

461
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: happened before your eyes, like you're just you almost lose

462
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: your mind again. That would make a really great story

463
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: that you would pass along and explain it in whatever

464
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: terms you could. But there would have been coastal settlements

465
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: along the bospor Us uh straight on either side, on

466
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: the Mediterranean side and also on the Black seaside, all

467
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: this water poured into and it would have just completely

468
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: wiped those settlements out. So the people who did survive

469
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: would have been like, something really bad happened here, and

470
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: this is how we're going to make sense of it.

471
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: And the timing of it was just right. Um, it

472
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: happened probably about seven thousand years ago. And as we'll see,

473
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that happened around seven thousand,

474
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: seventy undred years ago around the world because the end

475
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: of that last glacial period started in the sea levels,

476
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: rows and and all sorts of crazy stuff happened as

477
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: a result. But that's a that's one that people point to,

478
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: is like that maybe the flood that gave rise to

479
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: the Gilgamesh and Noah stories, no pun intended gave rise.

480
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: It really was unintended. Yeah. Another one about years ago

481
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: was the creation of the Persian Gulf. Kind of a

482
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: similar kind of thing during the last Ice Age, it

483
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: what is now the Persian Gulf used to not be.

484
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: It used to be a very nice river valley, uh,

485
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: near the Fertile Crescent where people lived. And the thing

486
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: here though, that I don't quite get is that they

487
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: haven't they haven't found any evidence of of things underwater there, right, No,

488
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: they haven't. They they The reason why they think this happened, Chuck,

489
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: is because all of a sudden, on the shores of

490
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: the Gulf as we know it today, some like really

491
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: well established settlements with decorative pottery and well built stone

492
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: houses and all sorts of other things. Domesticated animals just

493
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: sprang up basically overnight. So they were relocated essentially. Yeah,

494
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: that's really the only explanation. I went from hunting settlements,

495
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: hunting camps to all of a sudden, these people are

496
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: like an advanced society, so that the best explanation is

497
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: that their original settlement is down there beneath the Persian Gulf,

498
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: we just haven't found it yet. What about dogger Land,

499
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: So dogger Land is another similar story. They both share

500
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: what's called aqua terra um, by the way, which is

501
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: a coin or a term that was coined in the

502
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: nineties to describe these lands that were exposed for a

503
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand years that humans were kind of

504
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: developing and forming societies. And then we're lost just seven thousand,

505
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: seventy five years ago when the sea levels rose again.

506
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: So dogger Land and the idea of the Gulf being

507
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: um an underwater now submerged settlement dogger Lands like that,

508
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: but instead of in the Persian Gulf, it's been in

509
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: the North Sea. It was a patch of land that

510
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: connected the British Isles to Scandinavia before until about eighty

511
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: five hundred years ago. Right. And here they have actually

512
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: found submerged traces of settlements under the sea, unlike the

513
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: one in the Persian Gulf, right um. And they actually

514
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: think that it's possible. Some some people are saying no,

515
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: it's probably just you know, slow steady sea level rise

516
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: that that flooded dogger Land. Um. But they there was

517
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: a massive landslide in I think Norway called the Storaga

518
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: event UM. That happened eighty five hundred years ago, and

519
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: it probably generated a massive tsunami UM and it could

520
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: have been big enough to have submerged dogger Land permanently

521
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: after that. Apparently that's how big that underwater landslide was.

522
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: I was about to say underwater. You gotta point that

523
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: out out. But there's a flood story UM from Brittany

524
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: around that area that says that a king's daughter um

525
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: was possessed by a demon and opened like the their

526
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: their country's floodgates and that that was flooded, you know, catastrophically.

527
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, are they talking about this

528
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: event that happened eighty five hundred years ago that this

529
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: is survived as this legend until today. And yet another

530
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: right here in the well and now the U s

531
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: of A. But in the nineteen eighties and nineties they

532
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: investigated flood miss of the indigenous people's in the Pacific

533
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: Northwest and they found out that their flood miss uh

534
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: this was a little more recent, this was around sev D.

535
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: But the idea is that there was a like magnitude

536
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: nine earthquake that caused the tsunami, unleashing these big waves

537
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: from basically sort of Vancouver Island all the way down

538
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: to northern California. Yeah, it was the hoe and the

539
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: quill you people, um who had this legend of thunderbird

540
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: and whale getting in a fight. And UM. What's what's

541
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 1: interesting is, I mean, there's all sorts of geological evidence.

542
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: Apparently there's still trees that are just not where they're

543
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: they're just not growing back. They were wiped clean from

544
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: the tsunami. UM. But the they there's a Japanese temple

545
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: of Buddhist temple that mark the date January six hundred

546
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: because the tsunami wave made it all the way to

547
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: Japan and they noted it. So by basically cross correlating

548
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: that Japanese um noting of the date with the hoe

549
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: and the quill yus um story about thunder ward thunderbird

550
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: and whale, they've said, this is this story is about

551
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: this particular event, which is pretty awesome. And then sometimes

552
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: it's just uh a culture like pre science again making

553
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: sense out of finding weird things like the Zuni people

554
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: in the southwest of the United States obviously not back

555
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: then they saw these you know, ancient marine animals and

556
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: seashells and the fossils that they were finding, and they said, well,

557
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: this is part of our creation story. There there was

558
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: a great flood, and that's how this stuff got here, Yeah,

559
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: here in the desert, which is I mean, that's how

560
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: a pre scientific commuce culture would make sense of that

561
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Pretty cool. So, UM, I say we

562
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: take one more break and we're gonna talk about the

563
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: other aspect of these myths, the mythology part of it,

564
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: right right after this. Okay. So if you take um

565
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: a myth and you strip the mythology off and you

566
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: just look at the kernel of historicity and try to

567
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: figure out, you know, what event it's actually describing. UM,

568
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: you don't want to just forget the myth part. You

569
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: want to go back and also look at the myth

570
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: part too, because that reveals a lot about humans, uh

571
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 1: and who we are and how how we think spread

572
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: out even across cultures throughout the world. UM. And there's

573
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: a lot of similarities that pop up from UM from

574
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: examining geo mythology, especially with flood myths. Even when you

575
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: set aside the idea or I should say, even when

576
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: you um account for the idea of missionaries spreading the

577
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: Noah flood too. So yeah, you know, one of the

578
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: things that's interesting to look at is how these things are,

579
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: how these myths are similar. And one way that a

580
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: lot of these flood myths are similar is that uh.

581
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: And we've already seen a little bit and what we've

582
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: talked about is oftentimes it's a man and a woman. Uh,

583
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: usually a man and a wife who are charged with um,

584
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: gathering up the animals, with repopulating the earth afterward, uh,

585
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: saving the species essentially. Um. There's usually a warning, um,

586
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 1: whether it's Noah's flood myth or all the others where

587
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, someone comes along and says, you know, you

588
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: better get your act together earth, or tell everybody on

589
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: Earth you know you were the messenger to get their

590
00:34:51,880 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: act together, or else I will rain down rain upon you. Right. Yeah, Um,

591
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: there's also sometimes a warning. I guess one of the warnings, Chuck,

592
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: that came through. I think we said earlier that the

593
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: Chinese have like at least four flood myths, um. And

594
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: one of the warnings that that came through was to

595
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: this brother and sister who freed a thunder god, um

596
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: from their father's I guess Chicken Cooper or whatever. Their

597
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: their father had captured him, and so the the thunder

598
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: god said, hey, thanks a lot of kids. By the way,

599
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: the things are about to get serious around here. You

600
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: might want to build a boat. Actually, yeah, I think

601
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: that's a bill of boat. Um. But they're one of

602
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: those interesting stories where you said, usually it's a man

603
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: and wife who end up having to repopulate the earth.

604
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: That put these two kids in the position of having

605
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: to repopulate and um, that was a taboo incest is

606
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: a basically the universal taboo one of them. Um. And

607
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: that was the same in ancient China as well. So

608
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: in different versions of the story, either the brother and

609
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: sister basically got a pass this time. Another version is that, um,

610
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: the brother had to go through a huge series of

611
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: physical challenges and couldn't and that somehow the earth became

612
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: populated anyway. And the third version is that they just

613
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: made everybody out of clay, that they made themselves, right, okay, Um.

614
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: But the the if you start really kind of looking

615
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: at floods, there's like especially the purpose of the flood.

616
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: That's the thing, Like it's very rare that the flood

617
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: happens in a flood myth just for fun. Like there's

618
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: almost always a reason, like humans want there to be

619
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: a reason. So we've come up with different reasons over

620
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: them over the years, and one of them is basically

621
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: the apocalypse, that that humanity is being wiped out, usually

622
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: as as punishment, uh, and that we deserve to survive,

623
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: and we would have to survive or else we wouldn't

624
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: be around to be passing the story along. So somebody

625
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: had to survive, so that's where those people who repopulate

626
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: the earth come from. But the rest of us, we

627
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: got wiped out because we displease the gods, that's right.

628
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: Another one is that we started out as an ocean, uh,

629
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: and nothing but ocean. So this is just a reset

630
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: to that, return to our original state here on planet Earth.

631
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: And there are a lot of cultures around the world

632
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: that basically thought that we started out as an ocean

633
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: from ancient Egypt north I think in Japan as well,

634
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: and basically you know, it's either returns us to a

635
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: state of water or an island above an ocean. Yeah,

636
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: and that's I mean, that's so closely related to the

637
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: apocalyptic one. Too. It's just that's we just happened to

638
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: be returning to how things were before, which is also

639
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: related to another kind of theme as a reason for

640
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Speaker 1: the flood, which is purification. Like, yes you're being punished

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Speaker 1: and yes you're returning to this primordial state, but the

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Speaker 1: ultimate reason that say, like God or the gods have

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Speaker 1: is to purify things, to get to rid the world

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Speaker 1: of evil and just keep the good and start over

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Speaker 1: with just the good. Basically, that's another big one too,

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Speaker 1: and they're all kind of, you know, pretty tightly wound

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Speaker 1: up together. Yeah, then there's just angry gods, and it

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Speaker 1: might have anything to do with you, um doing any

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Speaker 1: wrong is a culture or getting your act together. It's

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Speaker 1: just that the gods were angry, so they they kicked

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Speaker 1: open the top of that mountain and it became a volcano.

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Speaker 1: And sorry t s for you guys. It just happens.

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Speaker 1: But that's still interesting that people the rationalization even in itself, though,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. It's just kind of like sometimes that happens

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Speaker 1: even if you didn't do anything wrong. I think so.

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Speaker 1: So the there's another one to um that Emperor you

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00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: myth is a good example of um industriousness, people working together,

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Speaker 1: people controlling things. UM, where the earth has done something crazy,

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00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: maybe the gods were responsible, but humans managed to overcome it,

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Speaker 1: either in the the the form of like a savior,

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Speaker 1: like emperor you. Um. There's one in Bhutan. I believe

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Speaker 1: there's a legend about Guru reproach Um and the Zangpo Valley. Um.

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Speaker 1: He shows up and basically drains a lake, exposing all

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Speaker 1: this fertile farm land where a village was then settled

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Speaker 1: or the um. And I apologize for this. I genuinely

666
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Speaker 1: could not find a pronunciation for it, Chuck, I really tried.

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Speaker 1: But the goon ganny g Aboriginal people g U and

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Speaker 1: g g a n y j I Um, they have

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Speaker 1: one where Um, the tsunami keeps coming and coming and

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Speaker 1: the sea levels are rising and rising. So the people

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Speaker 1: are organized and get together and start rolling boulders down

672
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Speaker 1: into the sea and it actually prevents the sea levels

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Speaker 1: from rising any further. So I think that's probably my

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Speaker 1: favorite one. The industriousness and control ones. It's good stuff.

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Speaker 1: And then people have gotten a little weird over the

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Speaker 1: years with trying to explain these away. Uh. There was

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Speaker 1: a Hungarian psychoanalyst named Giza Roe I'm uh in the

678
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Speaker 1: nineteen thirties that said, no, the reason why we have

679
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Speaker 1: all these flood myths is because they're just from people's dreams.

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Speaker 1: And people in ancient times drank a lot of water

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Speaker 1: and peede a lot at night, and so they dreamt

682
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Speaker 1: about floods and told stories about floods. Or maybe it

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Speaker 1: is um the God's urinate on urinating on people like literally,

684
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Speaker 1: which and there are myths that literally talk about that

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Speaker 1: that floods the result of God's being on earth. Um,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know about expanding that to like all

687
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Speaker 1: the cultural flood miss all over the world for all time, right,

688
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: And there's others that explain it is like men's jealousy

689
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Speaker 1: of not being able to give birth and then it's

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Speaker 1: a reference to the bursting of the amniotic sack or

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Speaker 1: something like that. Um. I feel like when when psychoanalysis

692
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Speaker 1: gets involved, especially in this day and age, kind of

693
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Speaker 1: like that was a nice try, everybody. Let's just move

694
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Speaker 1: on to geo mythology instead, you know what I think?

695
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: So That's where I'm putting my money, Chuck, Geo mythology.

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic stuff. Uh, and also I should say I

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Speaker 1: want to give a shout out to one of our

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Speaker 1: past episodes. Was there real Atlantis? We were doing geo

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Speaker 1: mythology without even realizing it, that's right. Uh. If you

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Speaker 1: want to know more about geo mythology and flood myths,

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Speaker 1: then just start searching the internet because there's a lot

702
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Speaker 1: of interesting stuff out there about it. And since I

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Speaker 1: said that it's time for a listener mail, this is

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Speaker 1: a shout out to the one of the winners of

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Speaker 1: the Stuff you Should Know five K. This is something

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Speaker 1: that the Stuff you Should Know Army puts together every

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Speaker 1: year now in a in a virtual way right now.

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Speaker 1: But our buddy Aaron Mozelle is one of the people

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Speaker 1: who works on this um. They're looking to do this

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Speaker 1: again next year. Because here's the deal. As they sent

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Speaker 1: me this stuff afterward, and I was like, well, we

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Speaker 1: need to get this before, so I'm gonna go ahead

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Speaker 1: and say it now and then we'll see if you

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Speaker 1: can remind people. But people voted to have this happen

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Speaker 1: in late September early October. Uh, so is when it's

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Speaker 1: hopefully going to happen again. No official registration, no entry fee.

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Speaker 1: There's an event page. I guess that the Stuff you

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Speaker 1: Should Know Army Facebook site and um, I think people

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Speaker 1: had two weekends to participate this year and they had

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Speaker 1: bike riders this year. So regarding you know, regardless of

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Speaker 1: what your status is an athlete does, they're finding wlace

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Speaker 1: for you to get involved, which is really cool. So

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Speaker 1: this is from Amanda though, riding in to say that

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Speaker 1: I'm a winner. Baby. Uh, you guys have the best

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Speaker 1: been listening for years and I was happy to participate

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Speaker 1: in the virtual Stuff you Should Know five K this year.

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Speaker 1: It's a cool event that brought some really nice people

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Speaker 1: together at our little corner of the internet. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a particularly good or fast runner, but I get out

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Speaker 1: there and I did the dang thing, and that's what counts.

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Speaker 1: The other participants in the five k radiate that spirit

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Speaker 1: and are so encouraging of each other. Don't ask me how,

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Speaker 1: but somehow I achieve fastest five k for a woman

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Speaker 1: in this event. What a cool feeling. So today I

735
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Speaker 1: listened to Venus fly Traps on the way home and

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Speaker 1: came across the package addressed Stuff you Should Know five

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Speaker 1: K champ Amanda Thompson and just about cried and got

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Speaker 1: a hand crafted by Stuff you Should Know Army member

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Speaker 1: metal racked uh for her efforts and it's really great.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty great. She has to buy her her own

741
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Speaker 1: metal though, I don't think so. That's fantastic Van. Congratulations Amanda,

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Speaker 1: that's wonderful news. And congratulations to everybody who participated and

743
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Speaker 1: finished or even just started or even thought about doing it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you'll do it next year, who knows, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to everyone. Yeah. Uh, and again that is a

746
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Speaker 1: very cool thing. That Stuff you should Know fans too,

747
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Speaker 1: and it makes us love you guys even more. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You got anything else, No, just be on the lookout

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Speaker 1: next late summer fall for news on the Army facebook page. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Somebody please remind us ahead of time so we can

751
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: tell everybody else. Uh. And if you want to remind

752
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 1: us of something, we would love to be reminded because

753
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: that probably means we forgot. And you can put that

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Speaker 1: reminder in the form of an email, which you can

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Speaker 1: send to Stuff podcast at iHeart radio dot com. Stuff

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