1
00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,800
Speaker 1: Welcome back to a very special episode of Playing Buck.

2
00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,280
Speaker 1: We are playing the new mayor of New York City's

3
00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:14,280
Speaker 1: theme music Zorn Mamdani, the Kami, worthy of the Soviet anthem.

4
00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,759
Speaker 1: To be sure, that's the way it is, folks, I'm

5
00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,120
Speaker 1: wearing red today solidarity with the Kami. Our friend Ry

6
00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,960
Speaker 1: Gerdusky joins us. Now, Ryan, we are pouring out some

7
00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:32,960
Speaker 1: vodka shots over here for comrade Mom Donnie Mamdanni and

8
00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:38,080
Speaker 1: his victory. I guess no surprises. What are your biggest

9
00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,440
Speaker 1: takeaways from how all this went down in New York, Well,

10
00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,560
Speaker 1: in New York specifically.

11
00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,559
Speaker 2: The one thing I really was surprised about was how

12
00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,640
Speaker 2: much the coalitions changed between the primary and the general.

13
00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,040
Speaker 2: So in the primary, Cuomo won Hispanic voters and Black

14
00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,240
Speaker 2: voters by large margins. And it was and there was

15
00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,560
Speaker 2: white voters and Asian voters that really turn on him.

16
00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,640
Speaker 2: In this election, Cuomo won white voters and Asian voters,

17
00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,680
Speaker 2: and he'll blacks and Hispanics. Had he performed as well

18
00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,520
Speaker 2: with blacks and Hispanics in the Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens,

19
00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,240
Speaker 2: he would have won. So I was pretty surprising. I

20
00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,399
Speaker 2: actually thought he was going to keep the coalition of

21
00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,440
Speaker 2: this primary much much closer than he actually did. That

22
00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,040
Speaker 2: was my biggest takeaway. But she was just the mere

23
00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,520
Speaker 2: magnitude and size of how many people showed up. It

24
00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,839
Speaker 2: was just massive to vote both for and against him.

25
00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,760
Speaker 2: And then lastly, I guess how much Courtisy was in

26
00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,240
Speaker 2: the end, couldn't keep even a flagming of what Republicans

27
00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,240
Speaker 2: are in the city together.

28
00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,679
Speaker 3: So how much concern should we have going forward based

29
00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,400
Speaker 3: on these results? And let me give you my thesis

30
00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,720
Speaker 3: and you tell me if I'm a moron in your

31
00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:40,240
Speaker 3: mind or.

32
00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,160
Speaker 2: Not looking at ever?

33
00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, looking at the rough margins here, and I know

34
00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,720
Speaker 3: one is the general election the presidency, which drives out

35
00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:55,640
Speaker 3: higher turnout. But six hundred thousand fewer Trump voters voted

36
00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,920
Speaker 3: in New Jersey this year compared to last year, and

37
00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,280
Speaker 3: about the same number or fewer in Virginia, six hundred

38
00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,240
Speaker 3: thousand less. In fact, Trump twenty twenty four got more

39
00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:11,440
Speaker 3: votes than Spanberger did yesterday, and more votes substantially than

40
00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,720
Speaker 3: Cheryl did, both of which got them elected governors. Again,

41
00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,600
Speaker 3: I know, twenty five versus twenty four, But when I

42
00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,600
Speaker 3: look at this, Ryan, my concern is will Trump's base

43
00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,320
Speaker 3: that elected him in twenty twenty four. Will those people

44
00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,720
Speaker 3: show up in twenty six and then you can project

45
00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,680
Speaker 3: it beyond when Trump's not on the ballot in twenty eight.

46
00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,800
Speaker 3: How durable is this coalition?

47
00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,680
Speaker 2: Well, I mean at any coalition it does matter a lot,

48
00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,760
Speaker 2: but who runs it right? And you can look at

49
00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,600
Speaker 2: the Obama coalition see how long they lasts or aout Obama.

50
00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,400
Speaker 2: I think the big thing is is that if you

51
00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,440
Speaker 2: look at the way that this turn happened, right, Jack

52
00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,200
Speaker 2: Chitarelli was a good candidate, run a solid campaign, and

53
00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,720
Speaker 2: he built a model of how to win based upon

54
00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,400
Speaker 2: a twenty twenty one style election results. He got one

55
00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,680
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty two thousand more votes and he got

56
00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,920
Speaker 2: four years prior that would have won an election. He's

57
00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,720
Speaker 2: got more votes than den Murphy did, and he got

58
00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,639
Speaker 2: more votes I think the most Republicans I think ever did.

59
00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,080
Speaker 2: I think he won more votes than even Chris Christy

60
00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,119
Speaker 2: did when he got sixty percent. He built a platform

61
00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,760
Speaker 2: in a campaign that would that would win you a

62
00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,040
Speaker 2: normal style you know, off off your election. The thing

63
00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,000
Speaker 2: is we didn't have that normal style off off your election.

64
00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,320
Speaker 2: Four hundred thousand more people showed up is that there

65
00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,960
Speaker 2: vote f form. Mikey Sherrol, Mikey Cherrow got eight close

66
00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,120
Speaker 2: to eighty percent of the Kamala Harris old in Jersey

67
00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,400
Speaker 2: or eighty one percent in Kamala Harris rode in Jersey,

68
00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,680
Speaker 2: and Jack Jack Cirelli got seventy percent of the Trump coalition.

69
00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,120
Speaker 2: That's just not enough. Part of that is to voter enthusiasms,

70
00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,640
Speaker 2: voter enthusiasm. Part of it is the fact that the

71
00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,320
Speaker 2: economy it's not a wonderful shape for young people, right,

72
00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,640
Speaker 2: young people, Hispanic people, people who wanted to elect Trump.

73
00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,640
Speaker 2: Have him wave a magic wand have prices go back

74
00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,120
Speaker 2: to the way that we're in twenty nineteen. Have the economy

75
00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,760
Speaker 2: Electory at twenty eighteen are deeply frustrated now, you know?

76
00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,920
Speaker 2: Are they are? They? Should they be frustrated? Should they

77
00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,760
Speaker 2: be surprised if they can't go back in ten months? No,

78
00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,760
Speaker 2: they shouldn't. But that's not America, and America wants to

79
00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,520
Speaker 2: everything instantaneously. In Virginia, Winston's He's ran a bad campaign.

80
00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,560
Speaker 2: That's why she was down by fifteen points and worse

81
00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,839
Speaker 2: than every other Republican on the ballot, and that definitely

82
00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,840
Speaker 2: dragged Republicans down. Furthermore, you also the government shut down,

83
00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,840
Speaker 2: which deeply affects Virginia, and so you have all those

84
00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,840
Speaker 2: things mixtured. No one should lose their light, their hair

85
00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,000
Speaker 2: on fire over this. You know, it's terrible, it's awful.

86
00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,960
Speaker 2: But if you look at the overall election from Georgia

87
00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,880
Speaker 2: to racist in Connecticut, the races in Kansas, Republicans are

88
00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,520
Speaker 2: being trounced up and down the ballot. Democrats are very enthusiastic.

89
00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,360
Speaker 2: Democrats really want to show that Trump is that Trump

90
00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,880
Speaker 2: needs to be stopped, and Republicans are complacent. This is

91
00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,120
Speaker 2: what happens when you hold the White House, is that

92
00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,600
Speaker 2: the immediate aftermath, the party in power gets complacent. Until

93
00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,080
Speaker 2: we got Glenn Youngkin in twenty twenty one. You can

94
00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,120
Speaker 2: look at how we got Bob McDonald's in two thousand

95
00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,359
Speaker 2: and nine. This is just a very frequent thing that happens,

96
00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,200
Speaker 2: and no one should be like this shows, you know,

97
00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,520
Speaker 2: the whole Maga agenda is over. That does not show

98
00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,240
Speaker 2: this whatsoever.

99
00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Gerdoski with us It's a numbers game. Is this

100
00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,240
Speaker 1: podcast on the Klayanbuck network, which you should all check

101
00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,640
Speaker 1: out on a plan Buck podcast network which I just said, Ryan,

102
00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,520
Speaker 1: if you're looking at this, and I'm either I agree

103
00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,440
Speaker 1: with you. I don't think that there's a roadmap to

104
00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,640
Speaker 1: all things political that you can draw from what just

105
00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,560
Speaker 1: happened here, But putting it aside for a second, based

106
00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,839
Speaker 1: on the data, the demographics, and what we are seeing

107
00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,360
Speaker 1: not just in these races, but just more broadly, what

108
00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,880
Speaker 1: does for the midterms specifically? Right, this is not about

109
00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,040
Speaker 1: a Trump reelection campaign per se, What does a winning

110
00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,960
Speaker 1: Republican strategy look like going into this midterm next year?

111
00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,520
Speaker 1: So that they can like, what are the issues, what's

112
00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,240
Speaker 1: the messaging? What do you take away from that?

113
00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,760
Speaker 2: Well, I mean prices are a big part of it,

114
00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,240
Speaker 2: definitely the economy. And I was on your show yesterday,

115
00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,440
Speaker 2: so the electric prices are a big deal. What I

116
00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,279
Speaker 2: think I think the missed opportunity for the Trump White

117
00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,239
Speaker 2: House and the Trump political shop was they really should

118
00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,760
Speaker 2: have been working to have their own campaign to really

119
00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,800
Speaker 2: see they could drive out local pensaity voters in these

120
00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,919
Speaker 2: off off your cycles and claim those wins. Even focus

121
00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,640
Speaker 2: on New Jersey and Virginia. They could have done the

122
00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,800
Speaker 2: races in Pennsylvania or races somewhere else in the country,

123
00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,479
Speaker 2: but they chose not to. What I think that I

124
00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,680
Speaker 2: think going forward into this into this next year is

125
00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,599
Speaker 2: some kind of levity on youth unemployment, which is very high,

126
00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,520
Speaker 2: especially among recent college graduates. It's very very high. You

127
00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,360
Speaker 2: know a lot of colleges who cannot find jobs. That's

128
00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,440
Speaker 2: a big deal to work somewhere out on just on

129
00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,839
Speaker 2: trying to reduce the ramifications of inflation that happened over

130
00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,960
Speaker 2: the last five years. I know that's very hard to do.

131
00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,840
Speaker 2: I know that food prices are remarkably high and are

132
00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,800
Speaker 2: staying that way. I guess do whatever you can in

133
00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:04,320
Speaker 2: that in that, in that in that in the eighteen

134
00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,320
Speaker 2: months or a year to figure out how you can

135
00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,120
Speaker 2: reduce those prices to that working class people feel a

136
00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,600
Speaker 2: little less of a pinch. And you have Trump beust

137
00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:12,960
Speaker 2: to get it back on the road again. It has

138
00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,840
Speaker 2: to sit they're in start campaigning again to get his

139
00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,280
Speaker 2: base to show up in big numbers because Democrats, as

140
00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,760
Speaker 2: I said, Estory, are showing up like it's the presidential elections.

141
00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,600
Speaker 3: Ryan, is there a line that Democrats just won't cross?

142
00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,560
Speaker 3: Because when I see J. Jones win by six and

143
00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:37,200
Speaker 3: a half points, widely covered the amount of media that's

144
00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,720
Speaker 3: covered the Jay Jones. Now, maybe he doesn't get criticized

145
00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,920
Speaker 3: the same way that a Republican would, but for him

146
00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,960
Speaker 3: to win by six and a half points was really

147
00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,120
Speaker 3: the only result I saw last night where I thought

148
00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,480
Speaker 3: to myself, my goodness, this is this is not a

149
00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,920
Speaker 3: sign of sanity.

150
00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, they voted, they've they hate Trump

151
00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,200
Speaker 2: means more to them than any level of decency, and

152
00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,280
Speaker 2: that is a guiding light for them. I mean, and

153
00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,000
Speaker 2: you saw for particularly women, college educated women, hating Trump

154
00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,480
Speaker 2: is everything to them, right. And I know it's very

155
00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,960
Speaker 2: uncomfortable for some people to realize, having Cynthia Nixon's of

156
00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,280
Speaker 2: the world, there are living in this country, but there

157
00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,559
Speaker 2: are a lot, and they are unlike you know, a

158
00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,720
Speaker 2: good political friend of mine told me this, Unlike conservatives

159
00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,040
Speaker 2: who have Church, QBC and the Republican Party, Democrats only

160
00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,120
Speaker 2: have The Liberals only have the Democratic Party to fuel

161
00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,240
Speaker 2: all their frustrations and all their anger in. And I

162
00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,480
Speaker 2: think that and all their money into and I think

163
00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,160
Speaker 2: that that is where we're spending a lot of Oh,

164
00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,839
Speaker 2: they're spending all the time and energy. And I don't

165
00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,959
Speaker 2: think that J Jones could have J Jones could have

166
00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,199
Speaker 2: kicked the dog while saying some exploitive about people, saying

167
00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,199
Speaker 2: that I hope you know all people do this or that,

168
00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,640
Speaker 2: and he still would have won because in part because

169
00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,720
Speaker 2: when Smithsthears's numbers were so high highly ken and I

170
00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,600
Speaker 2: said this on the podcast on Numbers Team, if she

171
00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,120
Speaker 2: wins by double digits, there's no way which is just

172
00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,360
Speaker 2: loses by double jigits, there's diener way to carry to

173
00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,840
Speaker 2: stop j Jones from winning the election.

174
00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,880
Speaker 1: Ryan, how big a deal is Proposition fifties passage out

175
00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,240
Speaker 1: in californiaf we've mentioned this, We hadn't really because it's

176
00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,079
Speaker 1: a proposition, right, and it's about redistricting, but it really

177
00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,240
Speaker 1: does matter. How much does it matter for the mid terms?

178
00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot. I mean, you're looking at probably four

179
00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,320
Speaker 2: to five seat game for Democrats over there. That really

180
00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,520
Speaker 2: wipes out what Republicans are doing in Texas, and Democrats

181
00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,200
Speaker 2: are going to step up in Virginia as well and

182
00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,960
Speaker 2: probably draw out two or three Republicans out of Virginia.

183
00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,719
Speaker 2: And in the end, from the redistricting thing, I mean,

184
00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,160
Speaker 2: you may be in a position where, even without New

185
00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,400
Speaker 2: York or New Jersey changing the map, you may be

186
00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,720
Speaker 2: in a position where Democrats and Republicans are basically running

187
00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,520
Speaker 2: even as they were beforehand.

188
00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,720
Speaker 3: Okay, so mid the terms are one year from today.

189
00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,040
Speaker 3: Last year, one year anniversary of Trump's big win. We asked,

190
00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,559
Speaker 3: you know, how much disposition should there be on expectations

191
00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,640
Speaker 3: going forward? If you were asked right now, hey, President Trump,

192
00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,400
Speaker 3: what President Trump said, what should we focus on Ryan

193
00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,560
Speaker 3: based on the numbers that you have seen to ensure

194
00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,200
Speaker 3: that Republicans, say, in control of the House and the Senate,

195
00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,160
Speaker 3: that would be what I would immediately.

196
00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,640
Speaker 2: I mean, if we're especially we're looking at the Senate

197
00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,920
Speaker 2: seats right now and then in critical spring seats, I

198
00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,560
Speaker 2: would look at any suite at any district where Trump

199
00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,560
Speaker 2: received under five won by less than five points. Right,

200
00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,320
Speaker 2: Because even in Virginia, even in the state House, Republicans

201
00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,960
Speaker 2: stopped the bleeding at about three points. Right, That's all

202
00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,280
Speaker 2: they got the districts that voted for Trump by three

203
00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,640
Speaker 2: points and the last or maybe four points the less

204
00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,600
Speaker 2: they they flipped Democrat, but all the rest of them

205
00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,720
Speaker 2: stayed Republican. Right, So there wasn't this bleeding where like

206
00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,560
Speaker 2: Trump plus ten districts loss. So that's important thing to

207
00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,320
Speaker 2: remember a cavea to remember One. I would sit there

208
00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,240
Speaker 2: and start really trying to mobilize your your old base

209
00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,360
Speaker 2: again by trying to make sure that they're engagingly know

210
00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,720
Speaker 2: when the election is and that takes a year of

211
00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,520
Speaker 2: political work and it takes you know, hundreds of millions off,

212
00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,640
Speaker 2: not a billion dollars. Secondly, I would sit there and

213
00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:21,840
Speaker 2: really start trying to focus on easy, deliverable, positive pr

214
00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,760
Speaker 2: wins that are you know, that are that are there

215
00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,880
Speaker 2: that they could easily do, and what I would what

216
00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,240
Speaker 2: I would try, I mean, this is not anything that

217
00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,760
Speaker 2: they can't do. Try to get ballid measurements on the

218
00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,480
Speaker 2: ballot in these critical states ahead of the twenty twenty

219
00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,240
Speaker 2: six midterms where you could do like English as the

220
00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,720
Speaker 2: official language ballat mid term to drive up Republican conservative

221
00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,679
Speaker 2: independent turning a turnout, because that was a big part

222
00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,240
Speaker 2: of New Jersey where I was looking at the results

223
00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,160
Speaker 2: yesterday in Jersey and we're on the phone. When I

224
00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,960
Speaker 2: was on the phone with you guys, was that the

225
00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,720
Speaker 2: independent turnout was way down in place like Morris County,

226
00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,840
Speaker 2: and I was like, these are conservatives that are not

227
00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,160
Speaker 2: reistered Republican. This is not a good sign So give

228
00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,560
Speaker 2: the drive, give an give another initiative, another reason to

229
00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,280
Speaker 2: show up. Try to get ballid measurements on these critical

230
00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,480
Speaker 2: Spring states and all these states with the critical spring

231
00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,040
Speaker 2: seats ahead of the twenty twenty six men terms.

232
00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,960
Speaker 1: Ryan or Duski, everybody appreciate you, my friend, and hopefully

233
00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,439
Speaker 1: the next time we have you on to talk election

234
00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,360
Speaker 1: results will be a little more to celebrate, a little

235
00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,120
Speaker 1: more for the GOP to get excited about.

236
00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, thank you.

237
00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,840
Speaker 3: Hate crimes are on the rise, particularly anti Semitic ones.

238
00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,360
Speaker 3: We see them here in the country, around the world too.

239
00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,800
Speaker 3: When Jewish communities are threatened as they have been, we

240
00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,400
Speaker 3: must take a stand. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews,

241
00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,319
Speaker 3: that's the IFCJ, is on the front lines providing real

242
00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,000
Speaker 3: help where it's needed most. The coalition of Christian minded

243
00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,720
Speaker 3: individuals have come together to make a difference in the nation.

244
00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,480
Speaker 3: They're giving food and shelter to Jewish families that feel

245
00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,920
Speaker 3: under threat. They're helping survivors of hate rebuild their lives.

246
00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,839
Speaker 3: And they don't just respond to crisis, they work every

247
00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,600
Speaker 3: day to prevent it. Your gift of forty five dollars

248
00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,360
Speaker 3: will help support their life saving work by helping to

249
00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,120
Speaker 3: provide food, shelter, and much more. Supporting the IFCJ as

250
00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,560
Speaker 3: a spiritual stand too. So please call eight eight eight

251
00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,360
Speaker 3: four eight eight IFCJ. That's eight eight eight four eight

252
00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,239
Speaker 3: eight four three two five. You can also go online

253
00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,320
Speaker 3: to IFCJ dot org. Every dollar Helps, Don't wait be

254
00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,960
Speaker 3: the difference. Visit IFCJ dot org or call eight eight

255
00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,200
Speaker 3: eight four eight eight IFCJ. Now you know them as

256
00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,760
Speaker 3: conservative radio hosts, Now just get to know them as

257
00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,920
Speaker 3: guys on this Sunday hang podcast with Clay and Buck.

258
00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,240
Speaker 3: Find it in their podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app

259
00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,359
Speaker 3: or wherever you get your podcasts.

260
00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,040
Speaker 1: Oh, welcome back in here to Clay in Buck. Oh,

261
00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,000
Speaker 1: my friends, a lot of you on a weigh in

262
00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,679
Speaker 1: on a lot of things. But one thing that we

263
00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:56,160
Speaker 1: mentioned that this unfortunately could be a bit of a problem.

264
00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:01,080
Speaker 1: Supreme Court looking at Trump's tariffs, which remember a little

265
00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:06,760
Speaker 1: bit of review here, we were told they would be

266
00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,360
Speaker 1: so bad for the economy. Meanwhile they've been it seems,

267
00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:16,599
Speaker 1: hundreds of billions of dollars in the American coffer and

268
00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,640
Speaker 1: the economy's doing just great, at least when it comes

269
00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,360
Speaker 1: to trade, the stock market, investment, things like that. Yes,

270
00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,800
Speaker 1: prices are high, but and some people said, well, prices

271
00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,240
Speaker 1: are going to rise a lot because of terriffs. We

272
00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,680
Speaker 1: actually haven't seen that. If they've risen, they've risen a

273
00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,280
Speaker 1: little bit. But that's something that's certainly on everyone's mind,

274
00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,520
Speaker 1: because if the Supreme Court were to say Trump's tariffs

275
00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,640
Speaker 1: are unconstitutional, we have a problem. This is cut thirty

276
00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,800
Speaker 1: three Trump just in Miami, my city. Here, here's what

277
00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:49,520
Speaker 1: he's saying. Play it.

278
00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,760
Speaker 4: One hundred of the jobs have come from the private sector.

279
00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,200
Speaker 1: Otherwise you don't have a country.

280
00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I love government workers, but if you have

281
00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,040
Speaker 4: all government workers, you don't have a country, do you.

282
00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,880
Speaker 4: At the same time, my tariffs are bringing in hundreds

283
00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,680
Speaker 4: of billions of dollars in a helping slash the deficit

284
00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,960
Speaker 4: this year by more than fifty percent. Did you see

285
00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,600
Speaker 4: those numbers? We're going to be down fifty percent anywhere

286
00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,400
Speaker 4: from twenty five to fifty, but closer to fifty percent.

287
00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,960
Speaker 4: To them who would think that one those are big numbers.

288
00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,280
Speaker 1: Clay whateveryone thinks of the tariffs if they were to

289
00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:27,040
Speaker 1: get undermined by the Supreme or effectively done away with

290
00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,520
Speaker 1: by the Supreme Court. That's gonna get messy. What do

291
00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,040
Speaker 1: you even do?

292
00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,520
Speaker 3: It's it's not dissimilar in my mind back to how

293
00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:40,280
Speaker 3: you in birthright citizenship. Sometimes the law has just been

294
00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,280
Speaker 3: applied for so long and so significantly you would have

295
00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,560
Speaker 3: to give refunds. It would turn into a real mess.

296
00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,480
Speaker 3: So a part of me wonders if they could say, hey,

297
00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,520
Speaker 3: we don't think this is constitutional. But it's also also

298
00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,840
Speaker 3: incredibly difficult for the court to argue to order a

299
00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,560
Speaker 3: remediation in some way in this perspective, So they could

300
00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,720
Speaker 3: try to instruct Congress to see if Congress would vote

301
00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,280
Speaker 3: to give the president the authority right, because this is

302
00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,720
Speaker 3: really a separation of powers argument. It's does the president

303
00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,760
Speaker 3: have the power under emergency declarations to put in place tariffs?

304
00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,680
Speaker 3: This is a big picture analysis, or should with the

305
00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,880
Speaker 3: power of the purse, Congress have to make a decision

306
00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:32,200
Speaker 3: of this magnitude. And so you have all three powers

307
00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,680
Speaker 3: of separation of power elements here the Court trying to

308
00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,640
Speaker 3: tell Congress what they should have done and what the

309
00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,520
Speaker 3: president can't do and deligate those differences. It is somewhat complicated.

310
00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,040
Speaker 3: To go back we were talking about this off air

311
00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,280
Speaker 3: and say, oh, by the way, that four hundred billion

312
00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,920
Speaker 3: dollars that the president has already collected in tariffs roughly

313
00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,880
Speaker 3: maybe it's three hundred billion now certainly projected towards four

314
00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,160
Speaker 3: hundred it has to somehow be refunded. That's first of

315
00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,840
Speaker 3: all going to increase the deficit obviously, but also complicated

316
00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,920
Speaker 3: to figure out how to reassess and reallocate those dollars.

317
00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:13,840
Speaker 3: So this is actually an incredibly significant but also incredibly

318
00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,879
Speaker 3: complicated Supreme Court case that was taking place this morning.

319
00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,200
Speaker 1: How do you think it shakes out, mister lawyer hat Clay.

320
00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,800
Speaker 3: A part of me thinks that they will say that

321
00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,960
Speaker 3: the president doesn't have the authority to do it and

322
00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,399
Speaker 3: try to put a end of year timeline. This is

323
00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,919
Speaker 3: just totally making it up, right, because I think going

324
00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,960
Speaker 3: back and taking away the dollars that have already come

325
00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,199
Speaker 3: into the government and making the government give refunds is complicated.

326
00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,760
Speaker 3: The easy out, I would think would be trying to

327
00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,520
Speaker 3: figure out if there's a congressional bill that could be

328
00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,520
Speaker 3: passed to rubber stamp what Trump's already done.

329
00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,240
Speaker 1: One of the smarter investment moves I've made over the

330
00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,960
Speaker 1: years is the purchase of gold, not just because I

331
00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,960
Speaker 1: saw a way of as a way of balancing the

332
00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,200
Speaker 1: value of a declining dollar, but because I thought it

333
00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,879
Speaker 1: would increase in value. And this year alone, the price

334
00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,359
Speaker 1: of gold is up by more than fifty percent. With

335
00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,040
Speaker 1: lagging inflation still an issue, government debt insurmountable, owning gold

336
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,919
Speaker 1: just makes sense. The long term thesis is strong central

337
00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,399
Speaker 1: banks the world over have been buying gold all year long.

338
00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,240
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons gold's value has gone up.

339
00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,120
Speaker 1: Experts following the price of gold see continue to appreciate

340
00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,560
Speaker 1: well into the future. For all these reasons and more.

341
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,800
Speaker 1: It's not too late for you to enjoy a great

342
00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,480
Speaker 1: return yourself. I recently bought more gold from Birch Gold Group.

343
00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,560
Speaker 1: Birch Gold Group can also help you convert existing IRA

344
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,359
Speaker 1: or four to one k into a tax sheltered IRA

345
00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,240
Speaker 1: in gold. You don't pay a dime out of pocket.

346
00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,719
Speaker 1: Just text my name Buck to ninety eight ninety eight

347
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,000
Speaker 1: ninety eight and claim your free info kit from Birch

348
00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,960
Speaker 1: Gold no obligation. Text my name Buck to ninety eight

349
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,800
Speaker 1: ninety eight ninety eight for Birch Gold Group Today. Welcome

350
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,040
Speaker 1: back into Clay and Buck, Oh my, so much coming

351
00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,520
Speaker 1: in here on the stockbacks and on the just everything

352
00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,719
Speaker 1: from the results from this election last twenty four hours

353
00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 1: and we have this is gonna be very interesting, Randy.

354
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,800
Speaker 1: Do we still have? Randy and Jupiter, Florida. He wants

355
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,120
Speaker 1: to wait on the constitutionality of the tariffs, actually, which

356
00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 1: I find interesting, Randy in the lovely Jupiter, Florida, which,

357
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:22,120
Speaker 1: by the way, I hear great homes for sale New Yorkers. Yes,

358
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's true. What's up, Randy.

359
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 5: I live on the intercoastal, so please go Inland and Jupiter.

360
00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 2: But yes, it's fair dice every day.

361
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 1: What you got for us.

362
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 5: Wanted to get some help here on the tariff thing.

363
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 5: The other night club forty seven USA posted Eric Trump speaking,

364
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,360
Speaker 5: and we were trying.

365
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 6: To figure this out.

366
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:49,719
Speaker 5: I thought that the Constitution gave the I don't know

367
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:54,360
Speaker 5: in the Constitution. Wasn't terriffs part of our original revenue

368
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 5: source for the federal governments long before the income tax

369
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,119
Speaker 5: men it ever came about. I thought tariffs was a

370
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 5: legitimate revenue source. And uh, we're need some help to understand.

371
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 3: Okay, So that's a great question, and I'm sure that

372
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 3: tariffs were incredibly impactful. I mean, look, the Boston Tea Party, uh,

373
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 3: in many ways was funded by tariffs, right, if I'm

374
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,159
Speaker 3: remembering correctly, the the cost that they were demanding that

375
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 3: the colonies pay in order to import tea and other substances.

376
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 1: Well, the stamp, the stamp the Stamp Act from ap

377
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 1: AP American history, the intolerable acts. Uh, my understanding, and

378
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 1: I will be one hundred percent transparent. I do not

379
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 1: do tariff law and have never done tariff law is

380
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 1: a part of my legal practice.

381
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 3: Uh. I do know a little bit about maritime law,

382
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 3: by the way, which is maybe somewhat closely interlocked at times.

383
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 3: My understanding is that Trump has cited specifically a nineteen

384
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 3: seventies era law which was passed that gives the president

385
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 3: the authority to mandate tariffs in times of emergency. My

386
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 3: understanding of this dispute is Trump has cited, among other things,

387
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,199
Speaker 3: I think two primary things. And guys, I don't have

388
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal with me this morning, but I

389
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 3: was reading in their editorial breaking this down. If I

390
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 3: remember correctly, one of them is the drug crisis fentanyl

391
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 3: and the fact that it's been allowed to be brought

392
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 3: into this country, and he is saying that is a

393
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 3: crisis based on the number of people that are being killed.

394
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 3: And then I think there is an illegal immigration aspect

395
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 3: associated with this as well that he has used as

396
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 3: the and by the way, Congress gave the authority to

397
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 3: the President to enact that those actions. The question, so

398
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 3: far as I understand it to be, and if there

399
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,239
Speaker 3: is a constitutional scholar out there eight hundred and two

400
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 3: A two two eighty two who can pronounce and discuss

401
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 3: this to a better degree, the question that is at

402
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 3: stake that the constitution that they debated this morning was

403
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 3: has Trump exceeded the authority of that nineteen seventies Eras

404
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 3: Statute in taking the power to mandate these emergency tariffs

405
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 3: by basically taking away the power that otherwise would have

406
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 3: resided with Congress. So the argument against the tariffs is

407
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 3: that Congress has the power to levy the tariffs.

408
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: Now, now maybe you're.

409
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 3: Talking about back in the day in the Articles of Confederation, day,

410
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: in the colony days, and maybe even in the early

411
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: days of the country, but the authority to enact tariffs,

412
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: I believe is with Congress. And one reason they wanted

413
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 3: that was obviously separation of powers in general, but I

414
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 3: think rooted historically in the fact that tariffs had been

415
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 3: such a significant issue for the colonies back in the day.

416
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 3: They didn't want one unitary executive necess early with the

417
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 3: store with the ability and all of you who took

418
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 3: government back in the day, remember the power of the

419
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: purse historically and constitutionally has resided with the Congress.

420
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: I think Professor Clay's history class would be a well attended,

421
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: well attended seminar. I really do.

422
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 3: I don't want to swear that every single element of

423
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 3: that is one hundred percent correct, but I think I

424
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 3: got most of it correct. But it's a smart question.

425
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: But Randy is asking a deep historical question. Again, this

426
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 3: is rooted in the authority of a nineteen seventy statute

427
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 3: that the Trump administration has cited as the authority for

428
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 3: the president to unilaterally imposed tariffs across a broad swath

429
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 3: of the global trade in commerce. Indeed, we have more

430
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: coming in here on this one, a lot of folks

431
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 3: with a lot of thoughts.

432
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: Where we hear a second ago VIP email from Lewis

433
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: election summary and one word hate A powerful emotion and

434
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: it has been manipulated against core Americans. This just goes

435
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: to show the Democrat Party has become the party of hate.

436
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: That was the platform in each race, and unfortunately the

437
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: Democrat Party is taught to hate from an early age

438
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: or socially indoctored at embrace hate. Not one Democrat candidate

439
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: had any solution for the people, just the platform to

440
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: tear down and stop Trump. We need to take note

441
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: and fully understand what is coming. History is repeating itself. Lewis,

442
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 1: I think that there are there's certainly a lot of

443
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: anger and rage and hate on the left. I think

444
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: that envy is one of the most unfortunately and one

445
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: of the most powerful political mobilization tools that exist, especially

446
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: for people who are of the leftist, redistributive, collectivist Marxist mindset.

447
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: That you can always find people because the truth is

448
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: that the material conditions of the New Yorkers, even who

449
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: are all pro Mamdani. First of all, McLay read was

450
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: so hilarious. True. There are a lot of heiresses in

451
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: Chappaqua who are like I have men Donnie, Yes, Mannie's

452
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: the best. You know, They're they're all all about it,

453
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: uh and they love pretending to be these radicals that

454
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: care so much about the poor. I mean, they're gonna

455
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: live in the highest income, most non diverse neighborhood they

456
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: possibly can personally, but they want everybody else to, you know,

457
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: have like community housing and no laws and no cops.

458
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 3: Let me step back in, Professor Clay here a minute

459
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: buck trade deficits was what one of and finnyl were

460
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: the two emergencies that Trump cited nineteen seventy nine law

461
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: that was passed. Amy Cony Barrett talked about the challenges

462
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: of returning these tariffs. She said, what what how would

463
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: the government refund billions of dollars in tariffs? And the

464
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 3: lawyer who is suing said representing small businesses, said the

465
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: court could make it's ruling perspective only, meaning no refunds

466
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: would be necessary.

467
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: It would only start. That's kind of what I said.

468
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 3: It would start at a certain date, and I do

469
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: think that that is that is a huge part of

470
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: this as well. But again, the question is what is

471
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 3: an emergency?

472
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: Right?

473
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 3: There are many different levels here and this is kind

474
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 3: of a fun legal question, but what is an emergency?

475
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: And how long would an emergency last? Within the context

476
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: of this law that the Trump administration has cited as

477
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: the legal authority. John in San Diego, this seems like

478
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: it could be a super nerd call, but I'm kind

479
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: of impressed by it. John, you say you remember, well,

480
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 3: tell us your take here.

481
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 6: Okay, it's real simple. If the original Constitution only provides

482
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 6: for imposts and X posts for taxes, and an impost

483
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 6: is a tax on imports, which is a terriff, an

484
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 6: next post is an excise tax on domestic goods.

485
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: So thank you for the call. Sorry to continue.

486
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: You're the Initially the government was designed to be small,

487
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: and we did not get the authority for the income

488
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: tax it started. If I'm remembering correct, because I bet John,

489
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: you're going to be a nerd here and know this.

490
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: If I remember correctly during the Civil War for Abraham

491
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: Lincoln to pay for the Civil War, Am I correct

492
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: in that?

493
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 6: And then it was canceled and yeah, permanent one started

494
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 6: in nineteen thirteen with a sixteenth Amendment.

495
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, thank you for the call.

496
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know that, Buck, there was

497
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: no income tax in the United States until the Civil War.

498
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln has to pay for the Civil War. Once

499
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 3: the war's over, they do away with it, and then

500
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 3: in the early nineteen hundreds they said, hey, we're going

501
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 3: to go back to this and all of you are

502
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: going to pay us, you know, thirty plus percent of

503
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: everything you make.

504
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: This reminds me very much of the discussion here in

505
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: Florida about eliminating property for homesteaded properties. And I keep

506
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: seeing the people say, but but where will the money

507
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: come from. There's plenty of money and the property taxes

508
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: that would you're talking about something like six percent of

509
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: the actual budget the state of Florida. But everyone gets

510
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: used to a tax and then thinks that that tax

511
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: is always going to be there. It's just a question

512
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: of what the number is. But this country operator just

513
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: fine without an income tax for a long time, and

514
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: you start to look at what's going on and where

515
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: the expenditures are going, and increasingly, my friends, we're paying

516
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 1: for a massive welfare state. Massive welfare state in this country.

517
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: We don't necessarily call off that, but that is what

518
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: is going on.

519
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: Oh well, not only that, the challenge is whenever you

520
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: try to restrain the welfare straight state, they're immediately the

521
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: talking point is you're trying to cut trying to cut benefits.

522
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: You can never and this is the truth.

523
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: Psychologically, you can never give somebody something and then try

524
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: to take it back without them willing to basically be

525
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: going go to war on you. I mean this is Look,

526
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: this is the story of social security. The reality is

527
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: social Security relies on there always being way more young

528
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: people than there are old people because it's basically one

529
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: big pyramid scheme. And guess what's gonna happen. We're soon

530
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: going to start having a lot more old people than

531
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: we are young people. So where does the money for

532
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: Social Security come from? And when you tell people that,

533
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: they say, well, no, no, no, no, no, this is like this

534
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: is my money. I've been giving you social Security money

535
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: for everyone. Okay, but at some point in time, if

536
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: the demographics reverse, then you can't take seventy percent at

537
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: least in theory, you can't take seventy percent of what

538
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: somebody earns to pay it back out later. And by

539
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: the way, the fact that the government just takes huge

540
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: amounts of money from us buck. If I die tomorrow,

541
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: and god forbid my wife dies tomorrow, and once my

542
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: kids are eighteen, I get no Social Security benefits, they

543
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: cease to exist. So really you're just rolling the dice

544
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: on how long are you going to live as to

545
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: whether you ever get any of the money that the

546
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: government takes for you from you on soid security and

547
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: at least you have a possibility of getting that money back.

548
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: All the other money they take and you're never getting

549
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: it back.

550
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: It's an awful.

551
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: Against your point, we just get used to the idea

552
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: of getting screwed by the government to such an extent

553
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: that nobody ever.

554
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: Really takes a step back and says, do we have

555
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: to screw everybody like this by the government. To your point,

556
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: property taxes is ridiculous. You buy a home, you work

557
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: your whole life, and you have to give the government

558
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: a huge payment to be able to stay in the

559
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 1: home that you owe, that you own. I mean, it

560
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: really is unbelieve. You're renting your home from the government

561
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: and the government can take the government is your landlord.

562
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: If you don't pay your home fermies, they will take

563
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: your home. That you can never actually just own a

564
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: home that you can live in. You have to always

565
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: do this thing of continuing to be extras did from

566
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: you cannot just exist.

567
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: And older people who retire it becomes brutal on them

568
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: because It's one thing to pay property taxes when you

569
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: and I are working age. I mean, I don't like it,

570
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: but at least I'm working. But if I'm seventy and

571
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: I've lived in the same house for thirty years, those

572
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: numbers guess what, they ain't going down. They're gonna keep

573
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: going up. And it becomes more and more for many

574
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: of you out there listening to us right now that

575
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: are fortunate to own homes.

576
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: You're nodding along, You're saying this is crazy, but yes,

577
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: we've just accepted that this should happen. And again, the

578
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: fact that we didn't even have an income tax that

579
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: was in existence until the early nineteen hundred. It stuns

580
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people because they just presume that we've

581
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: always been doing this. Indeed, indeed, Professor Clay, yes, anyway,

582
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: I can nerd out on this stuff, and I just

583
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: like asking, why are we doing this?

584
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm a little bit weird. Sometimes I take a

585
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: step back and I'm like, yes, this exists, but why.

586
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: And kids are really great at this. Any of you

587
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: out there, Buck, You're gonna get into this soon. You're

588
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: six month old is just going to ask the amount

589
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: of questions that kids can ask. They are just question

590
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: factories because they're experiencing everything anew and they actually see

591
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: the world through fresh eyes, and they ask lots of questions,

592
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: and a lot of times you'll sit back and you'll say,

593
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: you know what, that's a really good question. I never

594
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: thought about it because you're old and you got used

595
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: to it. It's been go, go go in New York.

596
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: I've been NonStop, running everywhere. And if you're running NonStop everywhere,

597
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: you might be in favor of some chalk. It's a

598
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: Texas based family business, natural ingredients that helps you put

599
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: more energy in your life. C Hoq is the website,

600
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: Chalk dot com, mail Vitality stacks the most popular product

601
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: they have. What is that you might be asking, Well,

602
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: it's a way to increase the unfortunately horribly diminished levels

603
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: of testosterone and many different men. It's your body's natural

604
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: source of energy, that is testosterone when your levels are low.

605
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: Every guy experiences this. As you age your testope levels decline.

606
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: You can get just a twenty percent increase, a significant

607
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: twenty percent increase just by having this all natural treatment

608
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: twenty percent in three months time. My name Clay is

609
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: the promo code go online to chalk dot com. That's

610
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: choq dot com. My name Clay. Massive discount on any

611
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: subscription for life. You can cancel at any time with

612
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: no penalties, no worries. That's chalk dot Com. My name

613
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: c Lay.

614
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: Keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history

615
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: on the Team forty seven podcast Playin Book Highlight Trump

616
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: Free plays from the.

617
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: Week Sundays at noon Eastern.

618
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get

619
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: your podcasts.

620
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: Welcome back in Thanks to all of you been buying Balls.

621
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: It is selling like hotcakes. If you need Balls in

622
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: your life, you can go to Amazon, you can go anywhere.

623
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 3: If you bought it, I'd like to hear your review.

624
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: You can let me know what you think. It was

625
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: out yesterday. It is uh I think book that a

626
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: lot of you will enjoy, and I appreciate Buck posted

627
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: a photo. It's good to see that he has some balls.

628
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: And if you've got a photo and you like it,

629
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: tag me. Tag There was never any there was never

630
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: any doubt. We all knew that Balls was going to

631
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: be a part of my repertoire. You can tag Clay

632
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: and Buck, you can tag me, you can tag Buck,

633
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: if you got a funny picture or something of that

634
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: nature clean U involving the book, then we would love

635
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: to check it out, like to see where you're reading it.

636
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: All those things.

637
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: Okay, let's hit some of these calls. Shane and Buffalo.

638
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 3: You don't want to hear about New Yorkers leaving?

639
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: Why not? Oh, they're a joke. If a pandemic didn't

640
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: get these guys to leave, they'll never leave. They'll never leave.

641
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 6: They're gonna stay there. They're gonna root for the Jets

642
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 6: and be miserable for the rest of their lives.

643
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: I bet you a dozen wings they never leave. Can

644
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: I just say I love the Buffalo guy, not just

645
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: throwing New York City, but Jets fans under the bus

646
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: all at once. Clay, It's very It's it's a nice

647
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: move for Bills fan. I gotta say, oh, man, you

648
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 1: want to get people fight. That is a very good

649
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: line from the Bills. By the way, Josh Allen big

650
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: win over the Kansas City Chiefs. Over the weekend, thirty

651
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: million people watched it fifty one million. Major League Baseball

652
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: just said Buck most watched major League Baseball game in

653
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: Game seven in US, Canada and Japan in over thirty years.

654
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: This is going to get people fired up. Allison in

655
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: La k eib dd. Allison had this to say.

656
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 7: Hey, this is Alison from LA. I want to second

657
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 7: that lady's notion about apologizing for women. I'm conservative, always

658
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 7: voted Republican twenty four to seven Rush listener, but I

659
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 7: have to say they never should have given women the

660
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 7: right to vote. It's just most of them are just

661
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 7: too emotional.

662
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, I figure we could end in the show

663
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: with everybody losing their minds. That was what was their

664
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: name in LA.

665
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: Imagine what percentage of LA residents agree with Allison?

666
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: You think you Alison showing up for the end of

667
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: the show and just throwing a Molotov cocktail right in

668
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: the middle of things, just to see what happens if

669
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: you think you live behind the enemy lines.

670
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: Alison lives in LA and she just sent us a

671
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: message saying women shouldn't have the right to vote. By

672
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: the way she was reacting to Bonnie, I bet a

673
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: grandma from Charleston, South Carolina who called in an hour

674
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: one and wanted to apologize to the nation for women

675
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: leading us all astray.

676
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: Let me hit you with this buck as I flagged

677
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: this

678
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: Born seconds Born in New York City fifty percent Cuomo

679
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: thirty eight percent, Mom Donnie, less than five years here

680
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 3: eighty five percent, Mom Donnie, that's your election, buck,