WEBVTT - Hour 3 – Gilbert Arenas, Torpedo Bats

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>It's the final hour on this Monday. More of your

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<v Speaker 2>phone calls, best and worst of the weekend. One of

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<v Speaker 2>our favorites, great storyteller, Gilbert Arenas, will stop buying a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit eight seven to seven three DP show. Good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>question for the final hour. The odds for the final

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<v Speaker 2>four has Florida favored by two and a half against

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<v Speaker 2>Auburn and Duke favored by four and a half against Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>for the.

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<v Speaker 3>Poll question for the final hour, Yeah, we just put

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<v Speaker 3>one up there for Paulie. Torpedo bats look illegal? Should

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<v Speaker 3>be illegal? Or anyone can use them, So no big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to guess where that one's.

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<v Speaker 2>Falling. I'm gonna think that the audience is going to

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<v Speaker 2>side where anybody can use it.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody can use them, So it's a big deal. That's

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<v Speaker 3>fifty six percent of the audience right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Stanford has a new football coach. Stanford

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<v Speaker 2>is hiring Frank Reich the interim football coach. According to ESPN,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a one year deal. They had some issues with

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<v Speaker 2>Troy Taylor. He was there for a couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>and had been accused of bullying and belittling female athletic staffers,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was one of the first things that Andrew

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<v Speaker 2>Luck did as their general manager as he fires him

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<v Speaker 2>and brings in Frank Reich as the interim head football coach. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>right thing to do. Let's think, was it worth to

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<v Speaker 2>interrupting me?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to more of your phone calls coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a busy weekend in basketball, obviously, with Florida

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<v Speaker 2>surviving Texas Tech Duke Rolls, Houston Rolls in Auburn over

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan State as well Villanova. No surprise, they got Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>Willard from Maryland. The NFL Competition Committee voting on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the items is going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>Tush push. And it feels like there's a ground swell here,

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<v Speaker 2>there's momentum of getting rid of them. Tonight it's Connecticut

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<v Speaker 2>and USC what could have been with Juju Watkins against

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<v Speaker 2>Page Becker's Yukon is the favorite to win the national

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<v Speaker 2>title according to DraftKings TCU in Texas. In the other game,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike and Wisconsin, Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 5>Mary Dan?

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<v Speaker 6>With Duke.

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<v Speaker 5>They hit a couple losses in the regular season, but

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<v Speaker 5>they also had ten thirty point you know, thirty point

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<v Speaker 5>plus wins, and then they just beat Alabama by twenty

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<v Speaker 5>Are they in the conversation with one of the best

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<v Speaker 5>teams ever if they go on to win the championship

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<v Speaker 5>by twenty thirty? Or is it competition as a lesser?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're going against number one seeds. Now if they

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<v Speaker 2>knock out the number one seed and another number one seed,

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<v Speaker 2>what Connecticut did the previous two years pretty impressive. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw where the running Rebels of UNLV are going to

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<v Speaker 2>put out their own documentary with Larry Johnson and Stacy Augman.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think Anderson Hunt and Greg Anthony. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're going to put out their own documentary. Yes, Paul.

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<v Speaker 7>If that documentary really dives deep and is honest, people

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<v Speaker 7>will love it what they were doing back there in

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<v Speaker 7>the day.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not. I don't think they're going to spill. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they'll spill. And it's not a documentary, right

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<v Speaker 2>and then well, it's like a reality show. Isn't reality.

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<v Speaker 2>It's scripted to make it look like it's reality. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you get stories great, you know Tark's no longer

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<v Speaker 2>with us, unlike Nolan Richardson. Tark is no longer with us.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was listening to Stephen A telling you know,

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<v Speaker 2>God rest his soul, the late Great, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>can't tell me you knew he was alive. When you

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<v Speaker 2>say the late Great, you know, God rest his soul.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you just take the l you just go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my bad, sorry about that, Nolan. It's okay. It's worse

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<v Speaker 2>when you go, no, odd and didn't make a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's alive, the late Great. Nolan Richardson. I

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<v Speaker 2>have to be honest. I didn't know he was still alive.

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<v Speaker 2>But I didn't know he was daddy.

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<v Speaker 7>Either, you'd rather lean towards alive on air and then

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<v Speaker 7>you can that's easier to clean up. Nolan Richardson eighty

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<v Speaker 7>three years old and counting.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good good, I hope he's still counting. Yes, yes, Todd.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe he was often not punctual, so he was the

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<v Speaker 8>late great Nolan Richardson.

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<v Speaker 2>There's never on time.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not even dying.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but I think he also said, God rest his soul.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew he was still alive. You did not made

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake, big deal. You can't know everything. You can't. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>John in Minnesota, Hi, John, what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey?

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<v Speaker 9>So the Cooper flags. It just drives me nuts so

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<v Speaker 9>early because there's so many can't miss prospects and you

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<v Speaker 9>just don't know until they actually play. And I remember,

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<v Speaker 9>so I'm the same exact age in Minnesota. Right here

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<v Speaker 9>in Minnesota, I played against Joe Mauer and Larryzgerald in

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<v Speaker 9>high school sports. And I remember playing summer basketball and

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<v Speaker 9>by the way, I was the word player in this room.

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<v Speaker 9>But Joe Mauer was two time All States, Larry Fitzgerald

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<v Speaker 9>with All Conference. There was a guy that used to

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<v Speaker 9>come back and play with US Nick Horvat who played

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<v Speaker 9>at Duke, but in Minnesota he was legendary. My point

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<v Speaker 9>is they would come back to the summer camps. All

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<v Speaker 9>anyone talked about was a guy named Darius Miles. That's

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<v Speaker 9>all anyone talked about. He's the next Jordan. He's amazing,

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<v Speaker 9>He's going to the league, He's going to dominate. And

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<v Speaker 9>then he averaged like, I think nine points a game,

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<v Speaker 9>and that had a pretty lackluster career over there in LA.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was at a basketball camp. Didn't he

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<v Speaker 2>block Jordan's shot when they were playing one on one?

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<v Speaker 2>If I have the right player, I think there's video

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<v Speaker 2>of that where Mike was going one on one with

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<v Speaker 2>a camper and Darius Miles might have blocked his shot

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<v Speaker 2>going to the hoop. But yeah, things change, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>why when the expectation level for Cooper Flag is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be at an all time hunt. But look at

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<v Speaker 2>the number one picks that we've had in the last

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years. I mean, some have lived up to the expectations,

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<v Speaker 2>some exceeded, and some didn't even come close to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper Flag is really good, really talented player. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see where he goes the coach that develops him.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a whole process here. You just don't show

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<v Speaker 2>up and then all of a sudden you're great. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Shack took time to develop. If you look at him

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<v Speaker 2>at LSU, he was raw. If he came out after

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<v Speaker 2>his freshman year and the expectation, he wouldn't have lived

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<v Speaker 2>up to the expectations immediately, but he got time to develop.

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<v Speaker 2>Latner dominated him in college, and Shaq realized that he

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<v Speaker 2>had to get better and understand the game, and then

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<v Speaker 2>of course became one of the all time greats. Yes, Mark, The.

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<v Speaker 8>Crazy thing is when I was a kid leaving early,

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<v Speaker 8>was leaving after your junior year? Now he used to

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<v Speaker 8>be maybe like Stephan Marbury and Tim Thomas were the

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<v Speaker 8>only guys I could remember when I was a kid

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<v Speaker 8>that left after even after one year, they must be

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<v Speaker 8>crazy nice. But now it's you're staying two years.

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<v Speaker 4>What's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but you know there's certain players that need to

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<v Speaker 2>get that extra year. They want to Steph Curry did.

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<v Speaker 2>Steph realized he wasn't ready yet. He needed to develop

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<v Speaker 2>his handle, which sounds crazy, but yes, he needed to

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<v Speaker 2>develop his handle. By the way, I was watching videos.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the weekend, I was watching Jamal Crawford videos when

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<v Speaker 2>he's playing pickup games. I have to apologize to him.

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<v Speaker 2>His handle was spectacular. Now I didn't see that in

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<v Speaker 2>the pros, and maybe not at Michigan. But and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>watching a Peyton Pritchard compilation video, and Marvin and I

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this all the time. You know, we look

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<v Speaker 2>at Peyton Pritchard of the Celtics, he played it Oregon.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, nice little guy there. Yeah, it's a nice

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<v Speaker 2>little career there. And watch watches like G League or

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<v Speaker 2>high school, you know, compilation highlight. Holy smokes, there is

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<v Speaker 2>so much of a like the level of that guy

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<v Speaker 2>is really good. That guy's great to where it is

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<v Speaker 2>with the regular guy who may have been a good

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<v Speaker 2>basketball player in high school or even college. And you

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<v Speaker 2>start to look at these videos and it's just you

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<v Speaker 2>don't look at Peyton. You won't look at Peyton Pritchard

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<v Speaker 2>the same way. If you look at this, he is

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<v Speaker 2>just dominating. He's just taking people off the dribble, deep three, everything,

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<v Speaker 2>coast to coast. All of this Jamal Crawford dribbling guy's

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<v Speaker 2>falling down. It's it's almost like white chocolate. Jason Williams

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<v Speaker 2>when he was doing those pickup games when he's like

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<v Speaker 2>forty years of age. He's just dominating guy, dominating and

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<v Speaker 2>having fun. But yeah, you can tell what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>weekend I had. I'm watching Peyton Pritchard and Jamal Crawford videos.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, Marvin, yeah, you sent those to me, and I'm

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<v Speaker 8>sitting there going, first of all, you live a full life.

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<v Speaker 8>I Second of all, I've been telling people. I was like, guys,

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<v Speaker 8>you're right. Somebody told me this once. You know how

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<v Speaker 8>good you have to be to be a scrub in

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<v Speaker 8>the NBA. And obviously Payting Pitcher and Jamal they're not scrubs.

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<v Speaker 8>But that last guy on the bench, he's killing everybody

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<v Speaker 8>at your local YMCA, your local PRORAM because he was

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<v Speaker 8>a legend wherever he's from.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you look at these videos and I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, I saw the video and I go,

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<v Speaker 2>who is this guy? And then I realized it Peyton

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<v Speaker 2>Pritchard of the Boston Celtics. Now I loved him at Oregon,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't know if that translates to the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>You just watch a guy and he is all over

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<v Speaker 2>the place, energetic, deep shooter. Took a little while, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's had a couple of moments here, what do you have?

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty nine? The other night, a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>A couple more phone calls in here, Uh Nick in Irvine? Hi, Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey? Damn?

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<v Speaker 10>And you know those movies where some like an asteroid

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<v Speaker 10>comes and hits the water and a giant wave comes

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<v Speaker 10>and you see all the people in New York City

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<v Speaker 10>looking up and it's like taller than all the buildings.

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<v Speaker 10>That's what it's like to be a Dodger fan right now.

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<v Speaker 10>And the Dodgers are that wave. And every game we

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<v Speaker 10>just sit there and watch and we we were that wave.

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<v Speaker 10>And it's I've been a fan for so long of

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<v Speaker 10>the LA teams, and it happened in the eighties with

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<v Speaker 10>the Lakers, but that's been it. But it's happening again.

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<v Speaker 10>And the Mookie walk off in the extra innings and

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<v Speaker 10>then the Dodgers sweep of the Tigers. That's my best

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<v Speaker 10>of the weekend. And it's fun to be on top

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<v Speaker 10>of that wave. The Lakers who are also like that wave,

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<v Speaker 10>but just not as big. Their waves a little smaller.

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<v Speaker 10>Right now, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know if I would say that they're on a wave

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<v Speaker 2>right now, Nick, No.

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<v Speaker 10>No, no, they're getting healthy. And they had this dagger

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<v Speaker 10>game at the end of a four game trip. They

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<v Speaker 10>were just they suffered in that game where they lost

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<v Speaker 10>in the half court shot, and then they had a

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<v Speaker 10>tough game last of a four game trip. Everyone's dying

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<v Speaker 10>to get home, and oh it was just Lebron twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 10>eight and six, Luca twenty nine to nine and eight,

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<v Speaker 10>and my favorite Laker, Austin Reeves thirty one, eight and seven.

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<v Speaker 10>If that happens, if that happens consistently, which it has

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<v Speaker 10>barely consistently since the Luca trade. But there was a

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<v Speaker 10>health thing. But if that happens, they're not No one's

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<v Speaker 10>going to beat them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah they will if they don't play defense. And they

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<v Speaker 2>barely beat Indiana, so you got to factor that in

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<v Speaker 2>as well. But thank you for the phone call, and

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the Dodgers' success. As I've said, I'll take the

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<v Speaker 2>field only because I know how this works. You can

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<v Speaker 2>be unbelievable and poster child the Seattle Mariners when they

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<v Speaker 2>won two one and sixteen games. You better be ready

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<v Speaker 2>and have everything ready for the postseason, because you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>run into somebody who matches your strengths in some areas,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's going to come down to can you

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<v Speaker 2>get consistent pitching, timely hitting. It's a full proof format

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<v Speaker 2>of what I'm blueprint. I've seen it too many times.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that team got bounced.

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<v Speaker 10>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not one and done like it is in

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<v Speaker 2>most sports or some sports, but four of seven, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>would that be difficult. Absolutely, But you're going to run

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<v Speaker 2>into somebody or some team and they're gonna be on

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<v Speaker 2>a burner and you might be coasting to the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the regular season. You might be, hey, do we

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<v Speaker 2>get another win or not. Let's rest some people here,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey we clinched a long time ago. Then you get

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<v Speaker 2>into competition and you got to try to ratchet that

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<v Speaker 2>back up. Enjoy it while you can, and Laker fans,

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<v Speaker 2>your team has to play, defense, has to play and

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<v Speaker 2>if they do, then, as I said, they can go

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<v Speaker 2>to the Western Conference finals. I really believe that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Point The Dodgers have made the playoffs thirteen seasons in

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<v Speaker 7>a row. They're a powerhouse. They've only didn't finish first

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<v Speaker 7>one time. It is by one game. Of those thirteen

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<v Speaker 7>playoff appearances, they won two. You know, they were two

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<v Speaker 7>for thirteen, which any team, any franchise, would kill for

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<v Speaker 7>two for thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take a break. Gilbert Arenas will tell us some

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<v Speaker 2>More phone calls coming up. See what you update the

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<v Speaker 2>poll results final hour on this program. Yeah, we got

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of them going right now.

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<v Speaker 3>NFL wants to change the tush push because of jealousy.

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<v Speaker 3>The final four right now said tenty six percent have

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<v Speaker 3>the best teams are there rather than it be disappointing.

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<v Speaker 3>And we got one more up there about the Yankees bets.

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<v Speaker 3>They look illegal, should be illegal or anyone can use them.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's so a big deal right now, anyone can

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<v Speaker 3>use them. Running away with that one.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the host of Gills Arena podcast, three time All

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<v Speaker 2>Star with the Wizards and his show, his underdog hit

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<v Speaker 2>show just or passed one million subscribers. Look at you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're making moves, man, your make up moves this time

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<v Speaker 2>of the year. I think back to March Madness when

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<v Speaker 2>you guys played for the National Championship and you played

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<v Speaker 2>against Duke. What do you remember about that moment?

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<v Speaker 4>That's funny because of Richard Jefferson.

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<v Speaker 13>I remember the Final four against Michigan State where I

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<v Speaker 13>was doing a lot of gambling for steals and try

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<v Speaker 13>to get through a pinned down screen and Troy it

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<v Speaker 13>was Hudson and Zach Randolph closed that uh door on

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<v Speaker 13>me and I tore a soft tissue muscle in my chest.

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<v Speaker 13>I finished the game, but you know I was hurt

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<v Speaker 13>going into the championship game.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you would have beaten Duke. Is that what you're saying?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course I was a man on fireback.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that Mike Dunlevy's Duke team.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, that was Mike dun Leaby's breakout game, you know.

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<v Speaker 13>But they had a loaded roster. Also that uh Jason

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<v Speaker 13>will or Jay Will Boozer. You had Duhan Young Duhan

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<v Speaker 13>Shane Battier was the best player on the team, so

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<v Speaker 13>they were there.

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<v Speaker 4>They were also loaded.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you hate Duke?

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<v Speaker 14>I did?

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<v Speaker 13>I did because I thought, you know, even though I

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<v Speaker 13>was hurt, we still had a chance to win that game.

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<v Speaker 13>And I think there was like twenty two missed calls

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<v Speaker 13>in that game, which we felt we was reffed unfairly.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait wait, wait, who decided there were twenty two miss calls?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you know esping.

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<v Speaker 13>After, you know, when you watch after, you know there

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<v Speaker 13>was a pivotal play where Jason Gardner was dribbling and

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<v Speaker 13>he stopped and Jay Will fell on him, which would

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<v Speaker 13>have been his third foul in the first and they

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<v Speaker 13>didn't even call him.

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<v Speaker 4>He's just sitting there. Jay Will's fell all on him.

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<v Speaker 13>He's just sitting there, just bouncing the ball, and they

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<v Speaker 13>never actually called that foul.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think Duke getting preferential treatment.

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<v Speaker 13>It felt that way, It felt that it did feel

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<v Speaker 13>that way, But you know, it's the championship game.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they can't call it everything.

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<v Speaker 13>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious with Nil, with your son and your daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>You do have the financial means that you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>do you still how are they taking advantage Will they

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<v Speaker 2>take advantage of nam him likeness? Your son and daughter

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<v Speaker 2>very very highly rated recruits.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you know, I told them, you know, there's n

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<v Speaker 4>I L and then there's collective.

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<v Speaker 13>Right most you know parents are mixing the two and

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<v Speaker 13>they don't understand the difference. N I L is your

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<v Speaker 13>name and likeness, so you have to be a popular

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<v Speaker 13>player and personality. The collective is what everyone's getting from

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<v Speaker 13>the school themselves, right, So you know the school money

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<v Speaker 13>is very different from the n IL NIL. You have

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<v Speaker 13>to earn through your performance, your social media presence. So

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<v Speaker 13>you know they're understanding. You know that that uh, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Situation okay, but are you their agent? Are you negotiating?

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, I'll talk to agents right now.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, my son is thinking about going with Clutch Sports,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, and you know, working on the NIL side

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<v Speaker 13>of it. You know, my daughter's still trying to figure out,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, what she wants to go with. I think

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<v Speaker 13>she might go with Aaron Goodwin for her NIL and

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<v Speaker 13>collective deals.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then your son reclassified.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, he went from being a junior to a senior,

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<v Speaker 13>so he can, you know, get into college early because

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<v Speaker 13>the collective money will be cut off April eighth and

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<v Speaker 13>then there will be a cap in college.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you look at Cooper Flag at eighteen being

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<v Speaker 2>successful as any kind of blueprint or hey, my son

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<v Speaker 2>can do the same thing at the same age.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you can't, you can't.

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<v Speaker 13>You can't compare, you know, your kids to these unicorn

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<v Speaker 13>type of kids. Well that's where a lot of parents

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<v Speaker 13>mess up, you know. Cooper Flag is one of those rare,

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<v Speaker 13>you know kids where you know you can't build the

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<v Speaker 13>blue and off of you know, those type of kids,

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<v Speaker 13>the Lebron James Cooper Flags, the Paulo ben Cheryls, the

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<v Speaker 13>Zion William though those are one offs. Right, Cooper Flag

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<v Speaker 13>will be successful. He's I mean, what can you say

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<v Speaker 13>about him? Right, he's the number one pick. He will

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<v Speaker 13>be the number one pick. And people say if AJ

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<v Speaker 13>was in this draft, he will be the number one pick. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 13>I'm sorry this Cooper Flag has it engine. You can't teach, right,

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<v Speaker 13>you can teach him skill, you can teach him the game.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't teach how hard he plays this game.

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<v Speaker 13>And seventeen you know, now eighteen, I'm drafting him number

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<v Speaker 13>one every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's tricky. Now, who's the best player who couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>miss that you played against or with? Like everybody thought

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<v Speaker 2>that guy is going to be a star. And just

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, wasn't that I.

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<v Speaker 13>Played with or seen coming into the league. We'll probably

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<v Speaker 13>been in my draft where we had all the high

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<v Speaker 13>school kids.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Eddie Curry's.

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<v Speaker 13>The Tyson Chaman.

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<v Speaker 4>We knew he was just a defensive player.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>The Kwame Browns.

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<v Speaker 2>How does Mike Michael Jordan take Kwame Brown?

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<v Speaker 4>How does he upside? What?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Okay, so you're upside.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 13>So what you're looking at is you're looking at the age,

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<v Speaker 13>You're looking at the body style, and you're looking at

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<v Speaker 13>the raw potend you of the player. Where what's his ceiling?

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<v Speaker 13>What's his his floor? And you know it's it's not

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<v Speaker 13>the kids that are the best, it's the organization because

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<v Speaker 13>you're taking this kid with the idea that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 13>build something great.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you don't.

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<v Speaker 13>Build something greater, if you don't have the infrastructure of

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<v Speaker 13>building you know, a player, then it's your it's your

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<v Speaker 13>fault because the eighteen year old doesn't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 13>He's coming in from high school straight into the NBA.

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<v Speaker 13>He doesn't know the landscape. So you have to teach him,

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<v Speaker 13>teach him that.

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<v Speaker 2>But Jordan, you know, takes a chance on Kwame and

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<v Speaker 2>then Adam Morrison was the other end. He had been

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<v Speaker 2>in college, and both of these guys turned out to

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<v Speaker 2>be bussed. So, you know, Mike and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>great players, former players have a hard time, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>assessing other players because their standards are so high.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's the standard.

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<v Speaker 13>But it's also the delusion of what makes you great. Right,

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<v Speaker 13>So someone like Jordan, he thinks he's great or he

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<v Speaker 13>was great because of his fundamentals of the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. He doesn't consider the raw athleticism that he had, the.

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<v Speaker 13>Big hands, the forty seven inch vertical, the fast twitch book.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't consider that.

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<v Speaker 13>So he looks at, you know, what made him the

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<v Speaker 13>greatest of all time, not what he came into the environment.

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<v Speaker 4>You already had have a gaudy.

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<v Speaker 13>Engine and then you tweaked it for you know, every train.

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<v Speaker 4>He's by in Honda's and drafted Hondas.

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<v Speaker 13>Thinking he could turn him into bagattis like no, right,

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<v Speaker 13>So it's it's it's a little bit of the delusion

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<v Speaker 13>that he came into the world with the Bagatti.

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<v Speaker 2>Already we're talking to Gilbert Arena's co host of Gill's

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<v Speaker 2>Arena podcast. But you at Jordan Washington Wizard's version.

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<v Speaker 13>No, I played against that. I was the person that

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<v Speaker 13>came in after he left.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, so did you play against him as

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<v Speaker 2>a rookie?

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<v Speaker 13>I played against them those first two years when he

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<v Speaker 13>came Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. And how was that.

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<v Speaker 4>As a you know, I played.

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<v Speaker 13>Him in I played against him in ninety nine, right

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<v Speaker 13>when he retired at Jordan Camp. When I played against

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<v Speaker 13>him in the NBA, it's Jordan's so you know, for

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<v Speaker 13>the most part, you're admiring as a young fan, but

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<v Speaker 13>you're also trying to show him that you belonged to

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<v Speaker 13>So you know, I dropped forty one on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think he remembers that as well as you?

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<v Speaker 13>Right? Yeah, you know, yeah he remembers it because you know,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, I was a Jordan Camp kid, I was

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<v Speaker 13>a counselor.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was performing very well then too.

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<v Speaker 13>So when I got to the NBA, I used to

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<v Speaker 13>talk a bunch of trash of how I did him.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, this is the big leads. Nothing changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever have a situation where like Steven A

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<v Speaker 2>did with Lebron James, where a reporter a broadcaster that

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<v Speaker 2>you have an incident on the court.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I understood media early.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, I usually beat them to the punch, right,

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 13>So if I had a bad game, I I I

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:46.199
<v Speaker 13>bring it up first. You know, I didn't let anyone

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 13>hit me with you know, your four for seventeen performance.

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 13>I was like, I know why you guys are here.

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<v Speaker 13>I was four for seventeen, So let's just get right

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 13>to it. So, you know, already lightened the room. But

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<v Speaker 13>you know, this is uncharted territory. You know, no one

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<v Speaker 13>ever played with their kid, no one ever had you know,

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<v Speaker 13>this type of situation where you can have this blended

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<v Speaker 13>gray area conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>But what if you were in the league and your

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.479
<v Speaker 2>son was able to go into the NBA and you

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<v Speaker 2>had that wealth of power that you said, hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to navigate this, so we draft my son to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to play with me at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>my career.

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<v Speaker 4>But it did the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I've been listen, let's just be honest.

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<v Speaker 4>Every parent would have did the same thing. Across the landscape.

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<v Speaker 13>Most of you know, America, kids that go into the

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.920
<v Speaker 13>business is not ready. They're not ready to take over

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 13>the business or get into the situations they get into.

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:43.439
<v Speaker 13>But you know, as a parent, as a father, as

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<v Speaker 13>a mother, that is your job to prep your kid

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<v Speaker 13>and get them ready for this level.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know what lebron did, every parent would have.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you if you rewind and.

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<v Speaker 13>Go back to you know, the fifty fifth pick, who

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:03.440
<v Speaker 13>did they who was available? That's showing you right now

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<v Speaker 13>they should have been that pick No.

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<v Speaker 4>One right.

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<v Speaker 13>So being nineteen years old, athletic for a point guard

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 13>six too fast, right, strong, can shoot, can dribble.

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 4>Right, that was the right pick.

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<v Speaker 13>And you know people have to remember that Clutch said,

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<v Speaker 13>if you pick him earlier, then we're trying.

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 4>To we're going to go overseas.

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<v Speaker 13>So there was teams interested before fifty fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>How have you assessed Bronnie? Have you been critical?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm I'm I live in reality right wait? Yeah, true?

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<v Speaker 4>But from the forty from the fortieth pick to the

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<v Speaker 4>sixtieth pick, what am I expecting from these guys? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 13>A bench filler, someone who's gonna go to the G League.

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 13>They'll probably be be out of the league by two years. Right,

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 13>Maybe they might get to the third year, but most

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 13>of these guys are not getting to a second contract.

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 4>So where Brownie is?

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<v Speaker 13>I figured Okay, by the time his third year comes around,

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<v Speaker 13>he would be usable in NBA, you know, come in,

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 13>you know, last two minutes of the game, last three minutes.

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 4>You know, he'd be one of those type of players.

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 13>I did not expect him to be dominated in the

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:34.120
<v Speaker 13>G League right now.

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 4>I thought he had to learn how to be aggressive.

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 4>The bones of his game was already there, right, fast

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 4>and jump.

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 13>You can't teach that being aggressive in the shell shock

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 13>of Curry Jamaran, Yeah, that was gonna get that gets

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<v Speaker 13>to everyone, number one pick to the sixtieth pick, right.

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 4>So I'm impressed with.

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 13>How fast he actually turned his game around, and you

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 13>can see the confidence in him.

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Who are the best offensive players in your career that

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 2>you faced that.

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 13>I faced, Uh, Cody Bryant, Tracy McGrady, Alan Iverson.

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 2>That's a pretty good list.

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, uh, Kevin Durant, Lebron James, I can, I can

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 13>even I can put Tim Duncan up there, Vince Carter, Right.

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 13>So I came in Dwayne Wade like Carmelo Anthony right.

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<v Speaker 13>So the the era I came in is basically, if

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<v Speaker 13>you look at the top five shooting guards of all time,

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 13>I actually played against all of.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, Who's the best shooter of all time? Best shooter

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Steph Curry? Okay, not even close, not even close. How

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 2>would you do in a shooting contest.

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 13>If we if we had to shoot a hundred times,

0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 13>I'll probably win ten, ten to fifteen of those games.

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's.

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<v Speaker 13>When you when you're talking about that elite, the Reggie Miller's,

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 13>the Birds, the Craig Hodges, the Clay's even you know

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 13>Kevin Durant Kawhi is a great shooter. It's about who

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 13>can empty their brain the longest. Meaning there's no thought, right,

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 13>There's not oh did I leave the stove on? Is

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 13>anybody watching?

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 10>Right?

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 13>It's just it's just Homer Simpson. It's Homer Simpsons moment.

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 13>Who can be Homer Simpson the longest?

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 10>Right?

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 13>And I think that you know, Curry and Clay seems

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 13>like they can sustain it longer than you know, everybody

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 13>else I've ever seen.

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 2>But it feels like there's a really wide margin, Gilbert

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<v Speaker 2>between the greatest shooter of all time and then whoever

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<v Speaker 2>is the second greatest shooter of all time?

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<v Speaker 4>It's the longevity, and.

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>But it's Ray Allen, like, Who's the second greatest shooter

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<v Speaker 2>of all time, probably Clay.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm sorry to say, I really believe it's Klay Thompson

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<v Speaker 13>because the shots he's had to take, the valume, the

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 13>microscope of it, the sixty points with you know, less

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 13>than eleven dribbles. Right, those guys didn't do that. I mean,

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 13>the shot ability wasn't in uh the era then. But

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 13>just to see he's doing that with two Hall of

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 13>Famers first ballot on his roster. If you remove those guys,

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 13>I mean, Jesus Christ, Clay would have been first ballot.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 13>He still might be a first ballot, but you would

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<v Speaker 13>be saying he is the greatest shooter of all time.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just the ways he did it.

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<v Speaker 13>Now, if I'm going to take clutch, I'm going with

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 13>Reggie Miller, right, Reggie Miller's clutch shooting is above.

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:49.719
<v Speaker 4>You know those guys.

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 13>Ray Allen is in between of a guy who was

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 13>a I call it like a perfect perfect player shooter,

0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 13>where he was very athletic, he can shoot, he can

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 13>playmake right, so he was he was like above Reggie

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 13>and just the player themselves. And then Steph actually combined

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 13>everyone into one. Someone who can shoot off the dribble,

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 13>fast break, shooting, off the screen, shooting, his ability to

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 13>just put them all in one.

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 4>That's what Steph Curry is.

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 2>How bothered are you that Richard Jefferson went thirteenth in

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<v Speaker 2>the draft and you went thirty first.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh, not gonna lie, ah every time I see his

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 13>face on my ah because it's the one thing he

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 13>can always bring up that actually gets to me, right,

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 13>you know, me being an All Star All NBA getting

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 13>paid more than him.

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 4>Something about the draft where he was he was the

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 4>fourth best player on our team.

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 15>Like from his freshman year to his junior year, he

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 15>didn't improve in nothing, right, eleven points freshman year, eleven

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 15>points sophomore year, eleven points in junior year. But it

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 15>really did open up my eye to understand what the

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 15>next level is. Right, it's not about your college performance,

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 15>it's about your upside. And then when you step back

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 15>out of our team, he had the best upside.

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 13>You know, you're talking about a six seven six eight

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 13>small forward, shooting guard, today's power forward, today's center who

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 13>can run, jump, defend, put the ball in the basket

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 13>if need be. That's that's who you're gonna go with

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 13>every single time he.

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Looks like he was a star player when you see

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 2>him on TV. Yes, yes, Like he was.

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 13>A very very good mixture of if you need me

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 13>to dominate, I can, or I can be your second option,

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 13>your third option.

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 4>I can be your bridge player. Right. So he was

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 4>like the perfect guy that.

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 13>If you do not know what to pick, you're safe

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 13>picking him because he can fill in a lot of void.

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying watching him on ESPN, he the older

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 2>he gets, the better he was like, he looks like

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 2>he used to be a first team All NBA guy.

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 2>No right where he.

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 13>And he Yeah, he got the look and he's like,

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 13>you know, if he said, you know, I used to

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 13>have a you know, twenty five, you can believe it

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 13>just by looking at it.

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 2>He's Senator Jefferson is who he looks like. He looks

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 2>like he could, you know, run for political office.

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.799
<v Speaker 13>Listen, we had the best personalities on that team.

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Luke Walton was with us.

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 13>So we had some some guys that you know that

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 13>really pushed a button and it's it's no there's no

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:43.800
<v Speaker 13>mistake that we're both in the same field.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, congrats on the success of the show. Always great

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>to catch up with you. Thank you, Gil, thank you.

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 4>Appreciate it. Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a Gill's Arena podcast, and uh it's an underdog's

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:59.200
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<v Speaker 2>love them. Take a break, Last call for phone calls?

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<v Speaker 2>What we learn? What's in store tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 1>After this, be sure to catch the live edition of

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<v Speaker 2>Last Call for phone calls, What we learn? What's in

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<v Speaker 2>store tomorrow. Todd mcshae, formerly of The Mothership, NFL Draft Analyst,

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<v Speaker 2>on The Todd McShay Show, talking about what the Titans

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 2>are going to do with the number one overall pick.

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<v Speaker 16>It's not a coincidence that Russell Wilson was signed within hours,

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 16>not days. Hours, that they're all there in South Florida

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 16>for the workout for Kim Warton and for Miami's product.

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:52.479
<v Speaker 16>It means that they know that the Tennessee Titans aren't

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 16>moving out of that number one spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I didn't think they were. I think they're committed.

0:35:58.960 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 4>Now.

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 2>You should be listening anyway to all offers. You're the Titans.

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 2>It feels like the Will Levis era didn't last that long,

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.240
<v Speaker 2>but I guess you'll keep him as a backup quarterback

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:13.439
<v Speaker 2>to cam Ward. H Baker and Bozeman is back. That's

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Baker and Bozeman is back. Hi Baker, that's right.

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<v Speaker 6>Not good morning, Danny. So best of the weekend is

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 6>the start that my Yankees have gotten off to. I

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 6>recognize it a darn long season, but this is an

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 6>encouraging start. But my worst of the weekend is more important.

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<v Speaker 6>My worst of the weekend is any Astros fan that

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 6>could possibly be crying foul about the fairness of using

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 6>torpedo bats by the Yankees. I don't know who I'm

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 6>talking about, Fritzy, come.

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<v Speaker 2>On, thank you, Baker? Yeah, you of all people shouldn't

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 2>be complaining about what the Yankees are doing time.

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 4>I just don't like the whole back thing for any team.

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<v Speaker 13>This is very weird looking bat, and even with the

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 13>diameter and it's within the specifications to something seems questionable there.

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you really railed on the Astros

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 2>when they were using a garbage can, stealing signs.

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 4>There was definitely some stuff there that would make your

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 4>raise an eyebrow.

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 7>It was a proven cheating scandal that won them a

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:09.399
<v Speaker 7>World Series.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, still immediately bought a twenty seventeen shows Champions.

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<v Speaker 2>Fresh in Milwaukee, Hi Fresh, Welcome back?

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<v Speaker 14>What's up?

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<v Speaker 10>VP?

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<v Speaker 14>And Dan Nett? First of all, I'd like to give

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<v Speaker 14>a shout out to Gilbert Arenas with one of the

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<v Speaker 14>greatest nicknames ever, Agent zero. But the question is, even

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<v Speaker 14>though we know he brought him small gun with big

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<v Speaker 14>bullets to the locker room, does Gilbert have a chance

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<v Speaker 14>to go to the Hall of Fame. We know he

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<v Speaker 14>was a great scorer.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I think he was a three

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<v Speaker 2>time All Star. He could have been. He could have

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<v Speaker 2>been great, all time great because he could score. He's

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<v Speaker 2>score on anybody. Yeah, Mark, I.

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<v Speaker 8>Think for Gilbert, if you and me maybe five or

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<v Speaker 8>six All Star Games, he'd have a much better better chance.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Dereck Rose is different. He's got three All Star Games,

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<v Speaker 8>but he's got an MVP. If you had an MVP,

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<v Speaker 8>it'd be different.

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<v Speaker 2>And he got injured, got injured as well. Dave in Bridgeport,

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Dave, what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 17>First time a long time, five six, one sixty and

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<v Speaker 17>things that are being banned by the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>It's start.

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<v Speaker 17>Some of them started back in the eight two thousands.

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<v Speaker 17>I believe it was Loron lanjury for the Redskins. He

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<v Speaker 17>did the aeropol and shot it in the air, and

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<v Speaker 17>they thought that was defaming and banned them and gave

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<v Speaker 17>him a fifteen yard personal file.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know about this CD LAMB celebration and that

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<v Speaker 2>it had gang overtones undertones, but they have outlawed that

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<v Speaker 2>this day in sports history, Paul.

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<v Speaker 7>Got a couple for you. Nineteen o six, the International

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<v Speaker 7>Athletic Association became the NCAA.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what a run.

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<v Speaker 7>Nineteen thirty one, New Rockney of Notre Dame died in

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<v Speaker 7>a plane crash in Kansas. Nineteen sixty eight. Saddle chose

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<v Speaker 7>the nickname Pilots for the new A baseball franchise. Martina

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<v Speaker 7>Hengis at sixteen, number one player of the world, youngest

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<v Speaker 7>ever in ninety seven and in nineteen ninety eight. The

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<v Speaker 7>Tampa Bay Devil Rays and Arizona Diamondbacks debuted in Major

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<v Speaker 7>League Baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen ninety eight, Milwaukee became the first team since the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the American League in nineteen oh one just

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<v Speaker 2>switch leagues, the Brewers. They went to the National League

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<v Speaker 2>after that. I remember watching this fight Muhammad Ali suffered

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<v Speaker 2>a broken jaw split decision, lost to Ken Norton twelve

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<v Speaker 2>rounds in nineteen seventy three. Final results of the Pole

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<v Speaker 2>Question Seaton O Connor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we got a few of them. Let's see the

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<v Speaker 3>most recent. The NFL wants to change the tush push

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<v Speaker 3>because of jealousy. That's at sixty percent of the vote.

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<v Speaker 3>Player safety just a paltry six percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, year, there's safety.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know if paultry is the right word there,

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<v Speaker 3>but it seemed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Fit right now.

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<v Speaker 3>The final four is it's the best four teams. Not

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<v Speaker 3>as much disappointing. Only twenty three percent of the audience

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<v Speaker 3>find it disappointment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it feels like there's not enough madness or chaos

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<v Speaker 2>there that we've come to expect. And I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do think this is start of the start

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<v Speaker 2>of a pattern where these big time schools are going

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<v Speaker 2>to pick off players to prevent the mid majors from

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<v Speaker 2>having these Cinderella stories. It's really storious.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing that's got toied up in arms today.

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<v Speaker 3>Torpedo bets they look illegal, should be illegal, or anyone

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<v Speaker 3>can use them?

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<v Speaker 2>No big deal?

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, anyone can use them. No big deal is

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<v Speaker 3>up to seventy percent of the audience.

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<v Speaker 4>That Todd ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim pass Jim Jeff Passon of the Mothership, I almost

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<v Speaker 2>said Jim Paxson, who went to the University of Dayton,

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<v Speaker 2>he might even have an opinion on this. Jeff Passing

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<v Speaker 2>from the Mothership will stop by, and the popular host

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<v Speaker 2>with march madness, Adam Lefko will join us as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go around the room, Todd, what did you learn today?

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<v Speaker 13>Gilbertarina says there were twenty two misscalls in the two

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<v Speaker 13>thousand and one national title game, lost to Duke.

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<v Speaker 4>But who's going Seaton?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you learn today?

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<v Speaker 3>Richard Jefferson has something he can get under Gilbert Arenas's skin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Marvin, what did you learn today?

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<v Speaker 8>Gilbert said, Jordan's drafted Honda's but expected bugattis Paul?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you learn? Shire still has his jumper? Had

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<v Speaker 2>What did I learn?

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<v Speaker 13>John Shire believes you have to boost a player's confidence,

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<v Speaker 13>but sometimes you got to hit him with the truth,

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<v Speaker 13>right between the.

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<v Speaker 2>Eyes, hit him with the hind Have a great day, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>We look forward to doing this tomorrow for Fritzie Seat

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<v Speaker 2>and Marv Paula yours truly. We'll talk to you on Tuesday.