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Speaker 2: By the way, Stanford has a new football coach. Stanford
Speaker 2: is hiring Frank Reich the interim football coach. According to ESPN,
Speaker 2: it's a one year deal. They had some issues with
Speaker 2: Troy Taylor. He was there for a couple of years
Speaker 2: and had been accused of bullying and belittling female athletic staffers,
Speaker 2: and that was one of the first things that Andrew
Speaker 2: Luck did as their general manager as he fires him
Speaker 2: and brings in Frank Reich as the interim head football coach. Right,
Speaker 2: right thing to do. Let's think, was it worth to
Speaker 2: interrupting me?
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: We'll get to more of your phone calls coming up.
Speaker 2: It was a busy weekend in basketball, obviously, with Florida
Speaker 2: surviving Texas Tech Duke Rolls, Houston Rolls in Auburn over
Speaker 2: Michigan State as well Villanova. No surprise, they got Kevin
Speaker 2: Willard from Maryland. The NFL Competition Committee voting on Tuesday,
Speaker 2: and one of the items is going to be the
Speaker 2: Tush push. And it feels like there's a ground swell here,
Speaker 2: there's momentum of getting rid of them. Tonight it's Connecticut
Speaker 2: and USC what could have been with Juju Watkins against
Speaker 2: Page Becker's Yukon is the favorite to win the national
Speaker 2: title according to DraftKings TCU in Texas. In the other game,
Speaker 2: Mike and Wisconsin, Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5: Mary Dan?
Speaker 6: With Duke.
Speaker 5: They hit a couple losses in the regular season, but
Speaker 5: they also had ten thirty point you know, thirty point
Speaker 5: plus wins, and then they just beat Alabama by twenty
Speaker 5: Are they in the conversation with one of the best
Speaker 5: teams ever if they go on to win the championship
Speaker 5: by twenty thirty? Or is it competition as a lesser?
Speaker 2: No, you're going against number one seeds. Now if they
Speaker 2: knock out the number one seed and another number one seed,
Speaker 2: what Connecticut did the previous two years pretty impressive. I
Speaker 2: saw where the running Rebels of UNLV are going to
Speaker 2: put out their own documentary with Larry Johnson and Stacy Augman.
Speaker 2: So I think Anderson Hunt and Greg Anthony. So I
Speaker 2: think they're going to put out their own documentary. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7: If that documentary really dives deep and is honest, people
Speaker 7: will love it what they were doing back there in
Speaker 7: the day.
Speaker 2: They're not. I don't think they're going to spill. I
Speaker 2: don't think they'll spill. And it's not a documentary, right
Speaker 2: and then well, it's like a reality show. Isn't reality.
Speaker 2: It's scripted to make it look like it's reality. You know,
Speaker 2: if you get stories great, you know Tark's no longer
Speaker 2: with us, unlike Nolan Richardson. Tark is no longer with us.
Speaker 2: When I was listening to Stephen A telling you know,
Speaker 2: God rest his soul, the late Great, and then you
Speaker 2: can't tell me you knew he was alive. When you
Speaker 2: say the late Great, you know, God rest his soul.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just take the l you just go, oh,
Speaker 2: my bad, sorry about that, Nolan. It's okay. It's worse
Speaker 2: when you go, no, odd and didn't make a mistake.
Speaker 2: I know he's alive, the late Great. Nolan Richardson. I
Speaker 2: have to be honest. I didn't know he was still alive.
Speaker 2: But I didn't know he was daddy.
Speaker 7: Either, you'd rather lean towards alive on air and then
Speaker 7: you can that's easier to clean up. Nolan Richardson eighty
Speaker 7: three years old and counting.
Speaker 2: Oh good good, I hope he's still counting. Yes, yes, Todd.
Speaker 8: Maybe he was often not punctual, so he was the
Speaker 8: late great Nolan Richardson.
Speaker 2: There's never on time.
Speaker 4: They're not even dying.
Speaker 2: Well, but I think he also said, God rest his soul.
Speaker 2: I knew he was still alive. You did not made
Speaker 2: a mistake, big deal. You can't know everything. You can't. Uh,
Speaker 2: John in Minnesota, Hi, John, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 9: So the Cooper flags. It just drives me nuts so
Speaker 9: early because there's so many can't miss prospects and you
Speaker 9: just don't know until they actually play. And I remember,
Speaker 9: so I'm the same exact age in Minnesota. Right here
Speaker 9: in Minnesota, I played against Joe Mauer and Larryzgerald in
Speaker 9: high school sports. And I remember playing summer basketball and
Speaker 9: by the way, I was the word player in this room.
Speaker 9: But Joe Mauer was two time All States, Larry Fitzgerald
Speaker 9: with All Conference. There was a guy that used to
Speaker 9: come back and play with US Nick Horvat who played
Speaker 9: at Duke, but in Minnesota he was legendary. My point
Speaker 9: is they would come back to the summer camps. All
Speaker 9: anyone talked about was a guy named Darius Miles. That's
Speaker 9: all anyone talked about. He's the next Jordan. He's amazing,
Speaker 9: He's going to the league, He's going to dominate. And
Speaker 9: then he averaged like, I think nine points a game,
Speaker 9: and that had a pretty lackluster career over there in LA.
Speaker 2: I think he was at a basketball camp. Didn't he
Speaker 2: block Jordan's shot when they were playing one on one?
Speaker 2: If I have the right player, I think there's video
Speaker 2: of that where Mike was going one on one with
Speaker 2: a camper and Darius Miles might have blocked his shot
Speaker 2: going to the hoop. But yeah, things change, and that's
Speaker 2: why when the expectation level for Cooper Flag is going
Speaker 2: to be at an all time hunt. But look at
Speaker 2: the number one picks that we've had in the last
Speaker 2: fifteen years. I mean, some have lived up to the expectations,
Speaker 2: some exceeded, and some didn't even come close to that.
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag is really good, really talented player. I want
Speaker 2: to see where he goes the coach that develops him.
Speaker 2: This is a whole process here. You just don't show
Speaker 2: up and then all of a sudden you're great. I mean,
Speaker 2: Shack took time to develop. If you look at him
Speaker 2: at LSU, he was raw. If he came out after
Speaker 2: his freshman year and the expectation, he wouldn't have lived
Speaker 2: up to the expectations immediately, but he got time to develop.
Speaker 2: Latner dominated him in college, and Shaq realized that he
Speaker 2: had to get better and understand the game, and then
Speaker 2: of course became one of the all time greats. Yes, Mark, The.
Speaker 8: Crazy thing is when I was a kid leaving early,
Speaker 8: was leaving after your junior year? Now he used to
Speaker 8: be maybe like Stephan Marbury and Tim Thomas were the
Speaker 8: only guys I could remember when I was a kid
Speaker 8: that left after even after one year, they must be
Speaker 8: crazy nice. But now it's you're staying two years.
Speaker 4: What's wrong with you?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yes, but you know there's certain players that need to
Speaker 2: get that extra year. They want to Steph Curry did.
Speaker 2: Steph realized he wasn't ready yet. He needed to develop
Speaker 2: his handle, which sounds crazy, but yes, he needed to
Speaker 2: develop his handle. By the way, I was watching videos.
Speaker 2: Over the weekend, I was watching Jamal Crawford videos when
Speaker 2: he's playing pickup games. I have to apologize to him.
Speaker 2: His handle was spectacular. Now I didn't see that in
Speaker 2: the pros, and maybe not at Michigan. But and I'm
Speaker 2: watching a Peyton Pritchard compilation video, and Marvin and I
Speaker 2: talk about this all the time. You know, we look
Speaker 2: at Peyton Pritchard of the Celtics, he played it Oregon.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, nice little guy there. Yeah, it's a nice
Speaker 2: little career there. And watch watches like G League or
Speaker 2: high school, you know, compilation highlight. Holy smokes, there is
Speaker 2: so much of a like the level of that guy
Speaker 2: is really good. That guy's great to where it is
Speaker 2: with the regular guy who may have been a good
Speaker 2: basketball player in high school or even college. And you
Speaker 2: start to look at these videos and it's just you
Speaker 2: don't look at Peyton. You won't look at Peyton Pritchard
Speaker 2: the same way. If you look at this, he is
Speaker 2: just dominating. He's just taking people off the dribble, deep three, everything,
Speaker 2: coast to coast. All of this Jamal Crawford dribbling guy's
Speaker 2: falling down. It's it's almost like white chocolate. Jason Williams
Speaker 2: when he was doing those pickup games when he's like
Speaker 2: forty years of age. He's just dominating guy, dominating and
Speaker 2: having fun. But yeah, you can tell what kind of
Speaker 2: weekend I had. I'm watching Peyton Pritchard and Jamal Crawford videos.
Speaker 8: Yes, Marvin, yeah, you sent those to me, and I'm
Speaker 8: sitting there going, first of all, you live a full life.
Speaker 8: I Second of all, I've been telling people. I was like, guys,
Speaker 8: you're right. Somebody told me this once. You know how
Speaker 8: good you have to be to be a scrub in
Speaker 8: the NBA. And obviously Payting Pitcher and Jamal they're not scrubs.
Speaker 8: But that last guy on the bench, he's killing everybody
Speaker 8: at your local YMCA, your local PRORAM because he was
Speaker 8: a legend wherever he's from.
Speaker 2: Well, you look at these videos and I was just like,
Speaker 2: first of all, I saw the video and I go,
Speaker 2: who is this guy? And then I realized it Peyton
Speaker 2: Pritchard of the Boston Celtics. Now I loved him at Oregon,
Speaker 2: but I didn't know if that translates to the NBA.
Speaker 2: You just watch a guy and he is all over
Speaker 2: the place, energetic, deep shooter. Took a little while, but
Speaker 2: he's had a couple of moments here, what do you have?
Speaker 2: Thirty nine? The other night, a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 2: A couple more phone calls in here, Uh Nick in Irvine? Hi, Nick,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4: Hey? Damn?
Speaker 10: And you know those movies where some like an asteroid
Speaker 10: comes and hits the water and a giant wave comes
Speaker 10: and you see all the people in New York City
Speaker 10: looking up and it's like taller than all the buildings.
Speaker 10: That's what it's like to be a Dodger fan right now.
Speaker 10: And the Dodgers are that wave. And every game we
Speaker 10: just sit there and watch and we we were that wave.
Speaker 10: And it's I've been a fan for so long of
Speaker 10: the LA teams, and it happened in the eighties with
Speaker 10: the Lakers, but that's been it. But it's happening again.
Speaker 10: And the Mookie walk off in the extra innings and
Speaker 10: then the Dodgers sweep of the Tigers. That's my best
Speaker 10: of the weekend. And it's fun to be on top
Speaker 10: of that wave. The Lakers who are also like that wave,
Speaker 10: but just not as big. Their waves a little smaller.
Speaker 10: Right now, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know if I would say that they're on a wave
Speaker 2: right now, Nick, No.
Speaker 10: No, no, they're getting healthy. And they had this dagger
Speaker 10: game at the end of a four game trip. They
Speaker 10: were just they suffered in that game where they lost
Speaker 10: in the half court shot, and then they had a
Speaker 10: tough game last of a four game trip. Everyone's dying
Speaker 10: to get home, and oh it was just Lebron twenty eight,
Speaker 10: eight and six, Luca twenty nine to nine and eight,
Speaker 10: and my favorite Laker, Austin Reeves thirty one, eight and seven.
Speaker 10: If that happens, if that happens consistently, which it has
Speaker 10: barely consistently since the Luca trade. But there was a
Speaker 10: health thing. But if that happens, they're not No one's
Speaker 10: going to beat them.
Speaker 2: Yeah they will if they don't play defense. And they
Speaker 2: barely beat Indiana, so you got to factor that in
Speaker 2: as well. But thank you for the phone call, and
Speaker 2: enjoy the Dodgers' success. As I've said, I'll take the
Speaker 2: field only because I know how this works. You can
Speaker 2: be unbelievable and poster child the Seattle Mariners when they
Speaker 2: won two one and sixteen games. You better be ready
Speaker 2: and have everything ready for the postseason, because you're gonna
Speaker 2: run into somebody who matches your strengths in some areas,
Speaker 2: and then it's going to come down to can you
Speaker 2: get consistent pitching, timely hitting. It's a full proof format
Speaker 2: of what I'm blueprint. I've seen it too many times.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that team got bounced.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 2: No, it's not one and done like it is in
Speaker 2: most sports or some sports, but four of seven, yes,
Speaker 2: would that be difficult. Absolutely, But you're going to run
Speaker 2: into somebody or some team and they're gonna be on
Speaker 2: a burner and you might be coasting to the end
Speaker 2: of the regular season. You might be, hey, do we
Speaker 2: get another win or not. Let's rest some people here,
Speaker 2: Hey we clinched a long time ago. Then you get
Speaker 2: into competition and you got to try to ratchet that
Speaker 2: back up. Enjoy it while you can, and Laker fans,
Speaker 2: your team has to play, defense, has to play and
Speaker 2: if they do, then, as I said, they can go
Speaker 2: to the Western Conference finals. I really believe that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Point The Dodgers have made the playoffs thirteen seasons in
Speaker 7: a row. They're a powerhouse. They've only didn't finish first
Speaker 7: one time. It is by one game. Of those thirteen
Speaker 7: playoff appearances, they won two. You know, they were two
Speaker 7: for thirteen, which any team, any franchise, would kill for
Speaker 7: two for thirteen.
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Speaker 2: poll results final hour on this program. Yeah, we got
Speaker 2: a couple of them going right now.
Speaker 3: NFL wants to change the tush push because of jealousy.
Speaker 3: The final four right now said tenty six percent have
Speaker 3: the best teams are there rather than it be disappointing.
Speaker 3: And we got one more up there about the Yankees bets.
Speaker 3: They look illegal, should be illegal or anyone can use them.
Speaker 3: So it's so a big deal right now, anyone can
Speaker 3: use them. Running away with that one.
Speaker 2: He's the host of Gills Arena podcast, three time All
Speaker 2: Star with the Wizards and his show, his underdog hit
Speaker 2: show just or passed one million subscribers. Look at you.
Speaker 2: You're making moves, man, your make up moves this time
Speaker 2: of the year. I think back to March Madness when
Speaker 2: you guys played for the National Championship and you played
Speaker 2: against Duke. What do you remember about that moment?
Speaker 4: That's funny because of Richard Jefferson.
Speaker 13: I remember the Final four against Michigan State where I
Speaker 13: was doing a lot of gambling for steals and try
Speaker 13: to get through a pinned down screen and Troy it
Speaker 13: was Hudson and Zach Randolph closed that uh door on
Speaker 13: me and I tore a soft tissue muscle in my chest.
Speaker 13: I finished the game, but you know I was hurt
Speaker 13: going into the championship game.
Speaker 2: Or you would have beaten Duke. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4: Of course I was a man on fireback.
Speaker 2: Was that Mike Dunlevy's Duke team.
Speaker 13: Yes, that was Mike dun Leaby's breakout game, you know.
Speaker 13: But they had a loaded roster. Also that uh Jason
Speaker 13: will or Jay Will Boozer. You had Duhan Young Duhan
Speaker 13: Shane Battier was the best player on the team, so
Speaker 13: they were there.
Speaker 4: They were also loaded.
Speaker 2: Did you hate Duke?
Speaker 14: I did?
Speaker 13: I did because I thought, you know, even though I
Speaker 13: was hurt, we still had a chance to win that game.
Speaker 13: And I think there was like twenty two missed calls
Speaker 13: in that game, which we felt we was reffed unfairly.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, who decided there were twenty two miss calls?
Speaker 4: You know, you know esping.
Speaker 13: After, you know, when you watch after, you know there
Speaker 13: was a pivotal play where Jason Gardner was dribbling and
Speaker 13: he stopped and Jay Will fell on him, which would
Speaker 13: have been his third foul in the first and they
Speaker 13: didn't even call him.
Speaker 4: He's just sitting there. Jay Will's fell all on him.
Speaker 13: He's just sitting there, just bouncing the ball, and they
Speaker 13: never actually called that foul.
Speaker 2: So you think Duke getting preferential treatment.
Speaker 13: It felt that way, It felt that it did feel
Speaker 13: that way, But you know, it's the championship game.
Speaker 4: You know, they can't call it everything.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm curious with Nil, with your son and your daughter.
Speaker 2: You do have the financial means that you know, but
Speaker 2: do you still how are they taking advantage Will they
Speaker 2: take advantage of nam him likeness? Your son and daughter
Speaker 2: very very highly rated recruits.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, I told them, you know, there's n
Speaker 4: I L and then there's collective.
Speaker 13: Right most you know parents are mixing the two and
Speaker 13: they don't understand the difference. N I L is your
Speaker 13: name and likeness, so you have to be a popular
Speaker 13: player and personality. The collective is what everyone's getting from
Speaker 13: the school themselves, right, So you know the school money
Speaker 13: is very different from the n IL NIL. You have
Speaker 13: to earn through your performance, your social media presence. So
Speaker 13: you know they're understanding. You know that that uh, that.
Speaker 2: Situation okay, but are you their agent? Are you negotiating?
Speaker 4: No, No, I'll talk to agents right now.
Speaker 13: You know, my son is thinking about going with Clutch Sports,
Speaker 13: you know, and you know, working on the NIL side
Speaker 13: of it. You know, my daughter's still trying to figure out,
Speaker 13: you know, what she wants to go with. I think
Speaker 13: she might go with Aaron Goodwin for her NIL and
Speaker 13: collective deals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then your son reclassified.
Speaker 13: Yes, he went from being a junior to a senior,
Speaker 13: so he can, you know, get into college early because
Speaker 13: the collective money will be cut off April eighth and
Speaker 13: then there will be a cap in college.
Speaker 2: But do you look at Cooper Flag at eighteen being
Speaker 2: successful as any kind of blueprint or hey, my son
Speaker 2: can do the same thing at the same age.
Speaker 4: You know, you can't, you can't.
Speaker 13: You can't compare, you know, your kids to these unicorn
Speaker 13: type of kids. Well that's where a lot of parents
Speaker 13: mess up, you know. Cooper Flag is one of those rare,
Speaker 13: you know kids where you know you can't build the
Speaker 13: blue and off of you know, those type of kids,
Speaker 13: the Lebron James Cooper Flags, the Paulo ben Cheryls, the
Speaker 13: Zion William though those are one offs. Right, Cooper Flag
Speaker 13: will be successful. He's I mean, what can you say
Speaker 13: about him? Right, he's the number one pick. He will
Speaker 13: be the number one pick. And people say if AJ
Speaker 13: was in this draft, he will be the number one pick. Yeah, right,
Speaker 13: I'm sorry this Cooper Flag has it engine. You can't teach, right,
Speaker 13: you can teach him skill, you can teach him the game.
Speaker 4: You can't teach how hard he plays this game.
Speaker 13: And seventeen you know, now eighteen, I'm drafting him number
Speaker 13: one every single time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tricky. Now, who's the best player who couldn't
Speaker 2: miss that you played against or with? Like everybody thought
Speaker 2: that guy is going to be a star. And just
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, wasn't that I.
Speaker 13: Played with or seen coming into the league. We'll probably
Speaker 13: been in my draft where we had all the high
Speaker 13: school kids.
Speaker 4: You know, Eddie Curry's.
Speaker 13: The Tyson Chaman.
Speaker 4: We knew he was just a defensive player.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: The Kwame Browns.
Speaker 2: How does Mike Michael Jordan take Kwame Brown?
Speaker 4: How does he upside? What?
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, so you're upside.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 13: So what you're looking at is you're looking at the age,
Speaker 13: You're looking at the body style, and you're looking at
Speaker 13: the raw potend you of the player. Where what's his ceiling?
Speaker 13: What's his his floor? And you know it's it's not
Speaker 13: the kids that are the best, it's the organization because
Speaker 13: you're taking this kid with the idea that you're gonna
Speaker 13: build something great.
Speaker 4: So if you don't.
Speaker 13: Build something greater, if you don't have the infrastructure of
Speaker 13: building you know, a player, then it's your it's your
Speaker 13: fault because the eighteen year old doesn't know what to do.
Speaker 13: He's coming in from high school straight into the NBA.
Speaker 13: He doesn't know the landscape. So you have to teach him,
Speaker 13: teach him that.
Speaker 2: But Jordan, you know, takes a chance on Kwame and
Speaker 2: then Adam Morrison was the other end. He had been
Speaker 2: in college, and both of these guys turned out to
Speaker 2: be bussed. So, you know, Mike and a lot of
Speaker 2: great players, former players have a hard time, you know,
Speaker 2: assessing other players because their standards are so high.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's the standard.
Speaker 13: But it's also the delusion of what makes you great. Right,
Speaker 13: So someone like Jordan, he thinks he's great or he
Speaker 13: was great because of his fundamentals of the game.
Speaker 4: Right. He doesn't consider the raw athleticism that he had, the.
Speaker 13: Big hands, the forty seven inch vertical, the fast twitch book.
Speaker 4: He doesn't consider that.
Speaker 13: So he looks at, you know, what made him the
Speaker 13: greatest of all time, not what he came into the environment.
Speaker 4: You already had have a gaudy.
Speaker 13: Engine and then you tweaked it for you know, every train.
Speaker 4: He's by in Honda's and drafted Hondas.
Speaker 13: Thinking he could turn him into bagattis like no, right,
Speaker 13: So it's it's it's a little bit of the delusion
Speaker 13: that he came into the world with the Bagatti.
Speaker 2: Already we're talking to Gilbert Arena's co host of Gill's
Speaker 2: Arena podcast. But you at Jordan Washington Wizard's version.
Speaker 13: No, I played against that. I was the person that
Speaker 13: came in after he left.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, so did you play against him as
Speaker 2: a rookie?
Speaker 13: I played against them those first two years when he
Speaker 13: came Washington.
Speaker 2: Okay. And how was that.
Speaker 4: As a you know, I played.
Speaker 13: Him in I played against him in ninety nine, right
Speaker 13: when he retired at Jordan Camp. When I played against
Speaker 13: him in the NBA, it's Jordan's so you know, for
Speaker 13: the most part, you're admiring as a young fan, but
Speaker 13: you're also trying to show him that you belonged to
Speaker 13: So you know, I dropped forty one on him.
Speaker 2: Do you think he remembers that as well as you?
Speaker 13: Right? Yeah, you know, yeah he remembers it because you know,
Speaker 13: you know, I was a Jordan Camp kid, I was
Speaker 13: a counselor.
Speaker 4: So I was performing very well then too.
Speaker 13: So when I got to the NBA, I used to
Speaker 13: talk a bunch of trash of how I did him.
Speaker 4: He said, this is the big leads. Nothing changed.
Speaker 2: Do you ever have a situation where like Steven A
Speaker 2: did with Lebron James, where a reporter a broadcaster that
Speaker 2: you have an incident on the court.
Speaker 4: No, I understood media early.
Speaker 13: You know, I usually beat them to the punch, right,
Speaker 13: So if I had a bad game, I I I
Speaker 13: bring it up first. You know, I didn't let anyone
Speaker 13: hit me with you know, your four for seventeen performance.
Speaker 13: I was like, I know why you guys are here.
Speaker 13: I was four for seventeen, So let's just get right
Speaker 13: to it. So, you know, already lightened the room. But
Speaker 13: you know, this is uncharted territory. You know, no one
Speaker 13: ever played with their kid, no one ever had you know,
Speaker 13: this type of situation where you can have this blended
Speaker 13: gray area conversations.
Speaker 2: But what if you were in the league and your
Speaker 2: son was able to go into the NBA and you
Speaker 2: had that wealth of power that you said, hey, I'm
Speaker 2: going to navigate this, so we draft my son to
Speaker 2: be able to play with me at the end of
Speaker 2: my career.
Speaker 4: But it did the same thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've been listen, let's just be honest.
Speaker 4: Every parent would have did the same thing. Across the landscape.
Speaker 13: Most of you know, America, kids that go into the
Speaker 13: business is not ready. They're not ready to take over
Speaker 13: the business or get into the situations they get into.
Speaker 13: But you know, as a parent, as a father, as
Speaker 13: a mother, that is your job to prep your kid
Speaker 13: and get them ready for this level.
Speaker 4: So you know what lebron did, every parent would have.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: But if you if you rewind and.
Speaker 13: Go back to you know, the fifty fifth pick, who
Speaker 13: did they who was available? That's showing you right now
Speaker 13: they should have been that pick No.
Speaker 4: One right.
Speaker 13: So being nineteen years old, athletic for a point guard
Speaker 13: six too fast, right, strong, can shoot, can dribble.
Speaker 4: Right, that was the right pick.
Speaker 13: And you know people have to remember that Clutch said,
Speaker 13: if you pick him earlier, then we're trying.
Speaker 4: To we're going to go overseas.
Speaker 13: So there was teams interested before fifty fifth.
Speaker 2: How have you assessed Bronnie? Have you been critical?
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm I'm I live in reality right wait? Yeah, true?
Speaker 4: But from the forty from the fortieth pick to the
Speaker 4: sixtieth pick, what am I expecting from these guys? Right?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 13: A bench filler, someone who's gonna go to the G League.
Speaker 13: They'll probably be be out of the league by two years. Right,
Speaker 13: Maybe they might get to the third year, but most
Speaker 13: of these guys are not getting to a second contract.
Speaker 4: So where Brownie is?
Speaker 13: I figured Okay, by the time his third year comes around,
Speaker 13: he would be usable in NBA, you know, come in,
Speaker 13: you know, last two minutes of the game, last three minutes.
Speaker 4: You know, he'd be one of those type of players.
Speaker 13: I did not expect him to be dominated in the
Speaker 13: G League right now.
Speaker 4: I thought he had to learn how to be aggressive.
Speaker 4: The bones of his game was already there, right, fast
Speaker 4: and jump.
Speaker 13: You can't teach that being aggressive in the shell shock
Speaker 13: of Curry Jamaran, Yeah, that was gonna get that gets
Speaker 13: to everyone, number one pick to the sixtieth pick, right.
Speaker 4: So I'm impressed with.
Speaker 13: How fast he actually turned his game around, and you
Speaker 13: can see the confidence in him.
Speaker 2: Who are the best offensive players in your career that
Speaker 2: you faced that.
Speaker 13: I faced, Uh, Cody Bryant, Tracy McGrady, Alan Iverson.
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good list.
Speaker 13: Yeah, uh, Kevin Durant, Lebron James, I can, I can
Speaker 13: even I can put Tim Duncan up there, Vince Carter, Right.
Speaker 13: So I came in Dwayne Wade like Carmelo Anthony right.
Speaker 13: So the the era I came in is basically, if
Speaker 13: you look at the top five shooting guards of all time,
Speaker 13: I actually played against all of.
Speaker 2: Them, Who's the best shooter of all time? Best shooter
Speaker 2: Steph Curry? Okay, not even close, not even close. How
Speaker 2: would you do in a shooting contest.
Speaker 13: If we if we had to shoot a hundred times,
Speaker 13: I'll probably win ten, ten to fifteen of those games.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's.
Speaker 13: When you when you're talking about that elite, the Reggie Miller's,
Speaker 13: the Birds, the Craig Hodges, the Clay's even you know
Speaker 13: Kevin Durant Kawhi is a great shooter. It's about who
Speaker 13: can empty their brain the longest. Meaning there's no thought, right,
Speaker 13: There's not oh did I leave the stove on? Is
Speaker 13: anybody watching?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 13: It's just it's just Homer Simpson. It's Homer Simpsons moment.
Speaker 13: Who can be Homer Simpson the longest?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 13: And I think that you know, Curry and Clay seems
Speaker 13: like they can sustain it longer than you know, everybody
Speaker 13: else I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: But it feels like there's a really wide margin, Gilbert
Speaker 2: between the greatest shooter of all time and then whoever
Speaker 2: is the second greatest shooter of all time?
Speaker 4: It's the longevity, and.
Speaker 2: But it's Ray Allen, like, Who's the second greatest shooter
Speaker 2: of all time, probably Clay.
Speaker 13: I'm sorry to say, I really believe it's Klay Thompson
Speaker 13: because the shots he's had to take, the valume, the
Speaker 13: microscope of it, the sixty points with you know, less
Speaker 13: than eleven dribbles. Right, those guys didn't do that. I mean,
Speaker 13: the shot ability wasn't in uh the era then. But
Speaker 13: just to see he's doing that with two Hall of
Speaker 13: Famers first ballot on his roster. If you remove those guys,
Speaker 13: I mean, Jesus Christ, Clay would have been first ballot.
Speaker 13: He still might be a first ballot, but you would
Speaker 13: be saying he is the greatest shooter of all time.
Speaker 4: It's just the ways he did it.
Speaker 13: Now, if I'm going to take clutch, I'm going with
Speaker 13: Reggie Miller, right, Reggie Miller's clutch shooting is above.
Speaker 4: You know those guys.
Speaker 13: Ray Allen is in between of a guy who was
Speaker 13: a I call it like a perfect perfect player shooter,
Speaker 13: where he was very athletic, he can shoot, he can
Speaker 13: playmake right, so he was he was like above Reggie
Speaker 13: and just the player themselves. And then Steph actually combined
Speaker 13: everyone into one. Someone who can shoot off the dribble,
Speaker 13: fast break, shooting, off the screen, shooting, his ability to
Speaker 13: just put them all in one.
Speaker 4: That's what Steph Curry is.
Speaker 2: How bothered are you that Richard Jefferson went thirteenth in
Speaker 2: the draft and you went thirty first.
Speaker 13: Oh, not gonna lie, ah every time I see his
Speaker 13: face on my ah because it's the one thing he
Speaker 13: can always bring up that actually gets to me, right,
Speaker 13: you know, me being an All Star All NBA getting
Speaker 13: paid more than him.
Speaker 4: Something about the draft where he was he was the
Speaker 4: fourth best player on our team.
Speaker 15: Like from his freshman year to his junior year, he
Speaker 15: didn't improve in nothing, right, eleven points freshman year, eleven
Speaker 15: points sophomore year, eleven points in junior year. But it
Speaker 15: really did open up my eye to understand what the
Speaker 15: next level is. Right, it's not about your college performance,
Speaker 15: it's about your upside. And then when you step back
Speaker 15: out of our team, he had the best upside.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 13: You know, you're talking about a six seven six eight
Speaker 13: small forward, shooting guard, today's power forward, today's center who
Speaker 13: can run, jump, defend, put the ball in the basket
Speaker 13: if need be. That's that's who you're gonna go with
Speaker 13: every single time he.
Speaker 2: Looks like he was a star player when you see
Speaker 2: him on TV. Yes, yes, Like he was.
Speaker 13: A very very good mixture of if you need me
Speaker 13: to dominate, I can, or I can be your second option,
Speaker 13: your third option.
Speaker 4: I can be your bridge player. Right. So he was
Speaker 4: like the perfect guy that.
Speaker 13: If you do not know what to pick, you're safe
Speaker 13: picking him because he can fill in a lot of void.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying watching him on ESPN, he the older
Speaker 2: he gets, the better he was like, he looks like
Speaker 2: he used to be a first team All NBA guy.
Speaker 2: No right where he.
Speaker 13: And he Yeah, he got the look and he's like,
Speaker 13: you know, if he said, you know, I used to
Speaker 13: have a you know, twenty five, you can believe it
Speaker 13: just by looking at it.
Speaker 2: He's Senator Jefferson is who he looks like. He looks
Speaker 2: like he could, you know, run for political office.
Speaker 13: Listen, we had the best personalities on that team.
Speaker 4: I mean, Luke Walton was with us.
Speaker 13: So we had some some guys that you know that
Speaker 13: really pushed a button and it's it's no there's no
Speaker 13: mistake that we're both in the same field.
Speaker 2: Hey, congrats on the success of the show. Always great
Speaker 2: to catch up with you. Thank you, Gil, thank you.
Speaker 4: Appreciate it. Appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: What we learn? What's in store tomorrow?
Speaker 1: After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
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Speaker 2: Last Call for phone calls, What we learn? What's in
Speaker 2: store tomorrow. Todd mcshae, formerly of The Mothership, NFL Draft Analyst,
Speaker 2: on The Todd McShay Show, talking about what the Titans
Speaker 2: are going to do with the number one overall pick.
Speaker 16: It's not a coincidence that Russell Wilson was signed within hours,
Speaker 16: not days. Hours, that they're all there in South Florida
Speaker 16: for the workout for Kim Warton and for Miami's product.
Speaker 16: It means that they know that the Tennessee Titans aren't
Speaker 16: moving out of that number one spot.
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't think they were. I think they're committed.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: You should be listening anyway to all offers. You're the Titans.
Speaker 2: It feels like the Will Levis era didn't last that long,
Speaker 2: but I guess you'll keep him as a backup quarterback
Speaker 2: to cam Ward. H Baker and Bozeman is back. That's
Speaker 2: Baker and Bozeman is back. Hi Baker, that's right.
Speaker 6: Not good morning, Danny. So best of the weekend is
Speaker 6: the start that my Yankees have gotten off to. I
Speaker 6: recognize it a darn long season, but this is an
Speaker 6: encouraging start. But my worst of the weekend is more important.
Speaker 6: My worst of the weekend is any Astros fan that
Speaker 6: could possibly be crying foul about the fairness of using
Speaker 6: torpedo bats by the Yankees. I don't know who I'm
Speaker 6: talking about, Fritzy, come.
Speaker 2: On, thank you, Baker? Yeah, you of all people shouldn't
Speaker 2: be complaining about what the Yankees are doing time.
Speaker 4: I just don't like the whole back thing for any team.
Speaker 13: This is very weird looking bat, and even with the
Speaker 13: diameter and it's within the specifications to something seems questionable there.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you really railed on the Astros
Speaker 2: when they were using a garbage can, stealing signs.
Speaker 4: There was definitely some stuff there that would make your
Speaker 4: raise an eyebrow.
Speaker 7: It was a proven cheating scandal that won them a
Speaker 7: World Series.
Speaker 8: Yes, still immediately bought a twenty seventeen shows Champions.
Speaker 2: Fresh in Milwaukee, Hi Fresh, Welcome back?
Speaker 14: What's up?
Speaker 10: VP?
Speaker 14: And Dan Nett? First of all, I'd like to give
Speaker 14: a shout out to Gilbert Arenas with one of the
Speaker 14: greatest nicknames ever, Agent zero. But the question is, even
Speaker 14: though we know he brought him small gun with big
Speaker 14: bullets to the locker room, does Gilbert have a chance
Speaker 14: to go to the Hall of Fame. We know he
Speaker 14: was a great scorer.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think he was a three
Speaker 2: time All Star. He could have been. He could have
Speaker 2: been great, all time great because he could score. He's
Speaker 2: score on anybody. Yeah, Mark, I.
Speaker 8: Think for Gilbert, if you and me maybe five or
Speaker 8: six All Star Games, he'd have a much better better chance.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Dereck Rose is different. He's got three All Star Games,
Speaker 8: but he's got an MVP. If you had an MVP,
Speaker 8: it'd be different.
Speaker 2: And he got injured, got injured as well. Dave in Bridgeport,
Speaker 2: Hi Dave, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 17: First time a long time, five six, one sixty and
Speaker 17: things that are being banned by the NFL.
Speaker 4: It's start.
Speaker 17: Some of them started back in the eight two thousands.
Speaker 17: I believe it was Loron lanjury for the Redskins. He
Speaker 17: did the aeropol and shot it in the air, and
Speaker 17: they thought that was defaming and banned them and gave
Speaker 17: him a fifteen yard personal file.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't know about this CD LAMB celebration and that
Speaker 2: it had gang overtones undertones, but they have outlawed that
Speaker 2: this day in sports history, Paul.
Speaker 7: Got a couple for you. Nineteen o six, the International
Speaker 7: Athletic Association became the NCAA.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a run.
Speaker 7: Nineteen thirty one, New Rockney of Notre Dame died in
Speaker 7: a plane crash in Kansas. Nineteen sixty eight. Saddle chose
Speaker 7: the nickname Pilots for the new A baseball franchise. Martina
Speaker 7: Hengis at sixteen, number one player of the world, youngest
Speaker 7: ever in ninety seven and in nineteen ninety eight. The
Speaker 7: Tampa Bay Devil Rays and Arizona Diamondbacks debuted in Major
Speaker 7: League Baseball.
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety eight, Milwaukee became the first team since the
Speaker 2: beginning of the American League in nineteen oh one just
Speaker 2: switch leagues, the Brewers. They went to the National League
Speaker 2: after that. I remember watching this fight Muhammad Ali suffered
Speaker 2: a broken jaw split decision, lost to Ken Norton twelve
Speaker 2: rounds in nineteen seventy three. Final results of the Pole
Speaker 2: Question Seaton O Connor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a few of them. Let's see the
Speaker 3: most recent. The NFL wants to change the tush push
Speaker 3: because of jealousy. That's at sixty percent of the vote.
Speaker 3: Player safety just a paltry six percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, year, there's safety.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if paultry is the right word there,
Speaker 3: but it seemed to.
Speaker 2: Fit right now.
Speaker 3: The final four is it's the best four teams. Not
Speaker 3: as much disappointing. Only twenty three percent of the audience
Speaker 3: find it disappointment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like there's not enough madness or chaos
Speaker 2: there that we've come to expect. And I get it,
Speaker 2: but I do think this is start of the start
Speaker 2: of a pattern where these big time schools are going
Speaker 2: to pick off players to prevent the mid majors from
Speaker 2: having these Cinderella stories. It's really storious.
Speaker 3: And the thing that's got toied up in arms today.
Speaker 3: Torpedo bets they look illegal, should be illegal, or anyone
Speaker 3: can use them?
Speaker 2: No big deal?
Speaker 3: Right now, anyone can use them. No big deal is
Speaker 3: up to seventy percent of the audience.
Speaker 4: That Todd ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Jim pass Jim Jeff Passon of the Mothership, I almost
Speaker 2: said Jim Paxson, who went to the University of Dayton,
Speaker 2: he might even have an opinion on this. Jeff Passing
Speaker 2: from the Mothership will stop by, and the popular host
Speaker 2: with march madness, Adam Lefko will join us as well.
Speaker 2: Let's go around the room, Todd, what did you learn today?
Speaker 13: Gilbertarina says there were twenty two misscalls in the two
Speaker 13: thousand and one national title game, lost to Duke.
Speaker 4: But who's going Seaton?
Speaker 2: What did you learn today?
Speaker 3: Richard Jefferson has something he can get under Gilbert Arenas's skin.
Speaker 2: Yes, Marvin, what did you learn today?
Speaker 8: Gilbert said, Jordan's drafted Honda's but expected bugattis Paul?
Speaker 2: What did you learn? Shire still has his jumper? Had
Speaker 2: What did I learn?
Speaker 13: John Shire believes you have to boost a player's confidence,
Speaker 13: but sometimes you got to hit him with the truth,
Speaker 13: right between the.
Speaker 2: Eyes, hit him with the hind Have a great day, everybody.
Speaker 2: We look forward to doing this tomorrow for Fritzie Seat
Speaker 2: and Marv Paula yours truly. We'll talk to you on Tuesday.