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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all? Welcome to No Fouls Given, presented by

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Speaker 1: Prize Picks of course on Big Wise, joined as always

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Speaker 1: by the two NBA legends, Paul Pierce Danny Green.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, y'all?

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Speaker 1: Nothing much man. Coming off a solid week in the

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Speaker 1: NBA Action, definitely wanted to get right back into what's

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Speaker 1: been probably the biggest story of the season is the

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Speaker 1: emergence of victim women Yama. Two huge victories over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: They beat the Rockets in the NBA Cup game. That

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Speaker 1: one went down to the why I watched that from

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Speaker 1: start to finish, incredible game, and then they beat the Pelicans,

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Speaker 1: obviously not as good as Houston, but more importantly, d

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Speaker 1: Aaron Fox came back. Yeah, and we'll get into darreon Fox.

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Speaker 1: But I think a lot of the shadow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy, crazy.

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Speaker 1: Excuse my part of my friends.

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Speaker 2: Yah, Jesus.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of the chatter around the league.

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Speaker 1: And you know something I've been reading, like different outlets,

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Speaker 1: like writers that I messed with, media people, some of

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Speaker 1: the player podcasts is like when he came out the

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Speaker 1: box dropping thirty, dropping twenty eight, you know, seemingly unstoppable,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of come back down to earth, and people

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Speaker 1: are saying, as the league figured would be out.

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Speaker 4: Have they figured him out? He's You're not gonna be

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Speaker 4: able to figure him out because he's always going to

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Speaker 4: have an effect on the game, whether he's scoring or not. Yes,

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Speaker 4: because like if he's in the paint, you're not going

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Speaker 4: into the paint. And defensively, the way he can just

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Speaker 4: change it. Again, he's probably gonna win the next five

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Speaker 4: defensive Players of the Year if he's healthier, Like you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, So like if you you can't

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Speaker 4: figure that out, and then if his offense is rolling,

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Speaker 4: and you gotta also say, listen, he's had different start

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Speaker 4: guys in and out of the lineups too, so you

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Speaker 4: know they had their chemistry at the beginning, but then

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Speaker 4: now when you start shuffling the guards in and out

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Speaker 4: of the lineup, it's hard for him to be consistent

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Speaker 4: because he has to get the ball in the spots.

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Speaker 2: So tough to figure out.

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Speaker 3: I agree, but I think they found something to slow

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Speaker 3: him down. Yeah, I want to say they figure out,

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Speaker 3: but only a matter of time before he he figures

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Speaker 3: out how to master this. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: like he's a guy, he's a kid that cares about

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Speaker 3: to get the ball where he needs it, like in

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Speaker 3: the spots that he wants. And he's seven four. You

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Speaker 3: can't block and shot, you know, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So like figure, like Paul said, figuring him out and

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Speaker 3: you have block and shot.

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Speaker 5: Hope he misses. You can make a tough tough for him.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, he's starting to come down to earth a

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Speaker 5: Mostly.

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Speaker 3: Like him coming out scoring and averaging thirty was like,

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Speaker 3: you know, he could probably be win the best players

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Speaker 3: of all time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, continue that. Oh everything we he made us believe

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Speaker 5: that he was a scorer. He can score.

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Speaker 3: They'll have knights where he will score, but he's not

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Speaker 3: there yet to be like consistent score. If he becomes that,

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Speaker 3: he will be one of the best players of all time.

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Speaker 3: But mostly he's a defensive player. He's skilled offensively and

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Speaker 3: he can score, but realistically he's a guy to change

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Speaker 3: the game defensively and offensively. Just said, rebound put backs,

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Speaker 3: but knock down a three here and there, But it'll

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Speaker 3: open up the floor from more now that darreon Fox

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Speaker 3: is back, when they get Dylan Harper back and they

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Speaker 3: up the floor from But he has to figure out,

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Speaker 3: like how to attack these defense that throw on him

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Speaker 3: now differently, So he'll figure that out in it's only

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Speaker 3: amount of time. But this is him. I'm cool with

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Speaker 3: eighteen and eighteene. I mean, just a slow night for

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Speaker 1: You know, the idea that Wenby's been figured out and

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Speaker 1: the answer to the test is to put six foot

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Speaker 1: not long term, like the idea that he's not going

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Speaker 1: shifty these guys are. He's gonna eventually figure out how

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Speaker 1: to beat that. And I think what they've been doing

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Speaker 3: The bast how to get his spot. Yeah, it's a rap.

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Speaker 3: And then once he also figured out how to manipulate

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Speaker 3: the game. But certain guys know how to get to

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Speaker 4: I said this, and I said again, in case the

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Speaker 4: people didn't listen, I said it a year ago. Wemby

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Speaker 4: is the most talented player in the NBA right now,

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Speaker 4: the most top to bottom most talented player. There's no

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Speaker 4: figuring that out. You can'd the most talented, don't.

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Speaker 1: He does random ship like what the Lakers did, and

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Speaker 1: even with some of the rock what some of the

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Speaker 1: Rockets were doing too, again was it was it's like

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Speaker 1: just basically giving them different looks, different in waves at

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Speaker 1: him to let him be not comfortable. And again it's

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Speaker 1: only his third year. He hasn't mastered every.

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Speaker 5: Single half the year last year, so it's like it's

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Speaker 1: So I think I think he'll be fine. I think

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Speaker 1: it was big as Darren Fox coming back, because you know,

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Speaker 1: were doing. And crunch time. Again, it's the Pelicans, I

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Speaker 1: the aon Fox kind of settled it.

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Speaker 3: That matters, it's you matter who are you playing against them?

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Speaker 5: Crunch time?

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Speaker 3: You need somebody? Okay, see they were, you know, but

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Speaker 3: a lot of those games were crunch time. Yes, even

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Speaker 3: though they weren't teams that were great, considering they were

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Speaker 3: and that prepares you for the lung and they need that.

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Speaker 3: You could tell even against the Lakers, they just didn't

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Speaker 3: look yeah, composed, They didn't look like they were confident

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Speaker 4: And watched them though seriously, because before I was on

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Speaker 4: the like, all right, maybe you could use the Fox

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Speaker 2: I'm not on that no more.

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Speaker 4: I like his stability, brands and he could take some

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Speaker 4: looked at that stat line with all the players, how

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Speaker 4: had like seven eight guys double. So I was looking like, damn,

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Speaker 4: is san Antonio contender?

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Speaker 3: Like only with him with you have to have Fox though,

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Speaker 3: like with another year or two before Dylan Harper. Yes's castle,

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, but you need him for the next you looking.

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Speaker 4: Like they got talent, they got probably an MVP candidate.

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Speaker 4: They got athleticism, they got guard play, they got depth,

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Speaker 4: and and I'm gonna get that young kid.

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Speaker 2: He got coaching. When you come from the Pop tree,

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Speaker 2: you coaching?

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Speaker 5: You you? You? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: He do?

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Speaker 5: You know what he's doing?

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Speaker 1: What is the what is the Midge scouting report? If

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Speaker 1: you have one?

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Speaker 5: Like with how he coaches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just assuming he's very similar. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: doing it his own way. Got you, but it ain't different, bro,

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Speaker 3: pop and ours is still there. Yeah, it's just like

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Speaker 3: still in Miami. But you know, got you he learned

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Speaker 5: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just to bring it back to the

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Speaker 1: weinby thing full circle. I just I have a hard

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Speaker 1: time believing that he's not gonna find ways to find

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Speaker 1: stuff in film, and you know, the coaching staff aren't

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Speaker 1: even in the Laker game that he filed out, when

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Speaker 1: He's going downhill and he's getting fouled and he's scoring.

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Speaker 2: He's dunking on people's head.

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Speaker 5: It's wonderable from the bas so.

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Speaker 1: It's just making a more concerted effort to not be

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Speaker 1: so you know, three point again dominant.

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Speaker 5: That's gonna take him.

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Speaker 3: He can do a little bit a little throughout the season,

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Speaker 3: but there's not enough time from the work on that

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Speaker 3: got you. He's gonna go with this this past summer.

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Speaker 3: He was gonna get better throughout the season. But you

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Speaker 3: with the monks and everything, he's gonna do some of

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Speaker 3: that too. But he's gonna be like, all right, how

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Speaker 3: do I get to my spots? How do I get

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Speaker 3: to the free throw line? How do I make sure,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, I don't get pushed away

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Speaker 3: from the basket. How do I operate against smaller guys.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna play more against smaller guys.

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Speaker 2: It's just gonna be age.

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Speaker 4: As his body gets stronger, like we saw with Jannis,

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Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, As he got stronger,

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Speaker 4: he got better. That's what's gonna happen with this kid.

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Speaker 4: Because he looks a little stronger this year. It looks

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Speaker 4: a little better. The talent, Like I said, the talent

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Speaker 4: hes gonna be good when it gets stronger. All you

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Speaker 4: gotta do is get strong. And I'm seeing that in

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Speaker 2: And that's it. Like we ain't saying he gotta what

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Speaker 2: do we say he gotta work on? Yeah, you know

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Speaker 2: to come back and get this.

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Speaker 4: He needs to jump shide superstars like if he could

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Speaker 4: come back, and you just gotta get strong.

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Speaker 2: That's really that simple, and it's crazy close.

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Speaker 1: Ad KD has come up so many times in the

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Speaker 1: Wenby conversations. Obviously they're different players, but very early on

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Speaker 1: in Kd's career was easy to deny him the ball

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the smaller guys. That was a smaller guy to

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Speaker 1: Denying make it hard for him to catch, like crowd

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Speaker 2: And then he got better at it.

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Speaker 1: Of course, MVPs and you know, all scoring titles and

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Speaker 1: all that stuff came after. So obviously I think that's

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Speaker 1: Let's walk them down, guys and talk about Man, the

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Speaker 5: Bro, they ball bro. I mean again, it's early for everybody.

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Speaker 1: Seven and two as of this recording.

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Speaker 3: People could say, you know, it's still very good. They

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Speaker 3: who's in there in Indiana. It's a solid team, but

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Speaker 1: Golden State didn't have Steph the other night. They blew

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Speaker 3: So the two losses that have Golden State went fully

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Speaker 2: Oh was it?

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Speaker 3: Think it was like an unacceptable loss. I feel like

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Speaker 1: Yeah with somebody, let's pull that up. Who did they

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Speaker 5: Either way?

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Speaker 3: They yeah, they lost to Portly boom on.

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Speaker 1: The Portly got some big home wins. This yeh beat

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Speaker 1: Denver is second in defensive efficiency and they've got the

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Speaker 3: And they haven't I feel like they still haven't reached

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Speaker 1: They're gonna They're gonna be smarter and better.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like certain guys haven't even found the

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 2: I like the way Jamal is looking.

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Speaker 3: But yes, they're they're to answer the question. They're the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that can see that can do damage to okay See.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like just the fact that that that's

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Speaker 4: I mean you gotta look at like even they bench.

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Speaker 4: So that's not surprised. Cam Johnson gives you versatility defense.

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Speaker 4: They have defensive guys, so it's not really surprising that.

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Speaker 4: And I think they can keep this up all season.

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Speaker 4: Remember they're the only team that pushed Okay, see the seven.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't think they could be number two oh season,

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Speaker 1: And that's what bro, And that's just crazy to think about.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that came up right now, teams

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Speaker 3: A big part of their defense as we're missing as

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Speaker 3: the rebounding. Yeah, and the pickup of Jonas Valanciunas I think.

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Speaker 5: Helped you a lot.

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Speaker 3: So now that you could play it, you know, Aaron Gordon,

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Speaker 5: I barely seen him play.

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Speaker 1: It was tough. Those were tough minutes. Hell, DJ got

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Speaker 5: But then they like an extension.

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Speaker 3: If it's not them, who else do you think could

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Speaker 2: Houston.

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Speaker 4: Please don't sleep on Houston. Houston is gonna be there.

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Speaker 4: They get listen, they ain't even even scratch who they're

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, yeah, they.

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Speaker 3: Gonna Even though they lost to Antonio is still young.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you say San Antonio gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be good, but I feel like they don't

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Speaker 4: You gotta start somewhere. What I like about that, you know,

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Speaker 4: like that breakthrough. I mean, you know, you just never

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Speaker 4: watching an all time player, like really like but like

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Speaker 5: Derek ros Rondo that like years how they was going off.

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Speaker 3: And if he goes off as different than Rondo and Derek,

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Speaker 3: like de Rose when y'all have them battles between Chicago.

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Speaker 3: For he's seven four, so he can control.

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Speaker 5: A whole game.

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Speaker 3: You can series goes on offensively and he's blocking shots defensively,

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Speaker 3: he could win you a whole series.

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Speaker 4: They got the number one. This is the thing in

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Speaker 4: the West. The number one ingredient that I've seen in

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Speaker 4: my history of playing in the league, watching the league, though,

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Speaker 4: number one ingredient to win a championship is you.

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Speaker 2: Got to have an MVP candidate.

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Speaker 4: Like every champion has a m VP caliber player and

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Speaker 4: weinby is that who in the Rockets?

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Speaker 3: I mean you can say have a collective.

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Speaker 5: To be MV.

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Speaker 4: Obviously Joker obviously, Luca Yeah, obviously a Greek freak. And

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Speaker 4: then there's one more, Anthony Edwards. There's a number of

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Speaker 5: So nobody else you got just Yanna.

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Speaker 4: So the East, I don't think nobody in the East

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Speaker 1: Say that, and I think Brunton will be closed depending

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Speaker 1: on how the next to But your point is taking

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Speaker 1: you need elite players and they.

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Speaker 2: At least agree that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in order to compete at the very time. So

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Speaker 1: the West, the West is a bear. But producer Chris

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Speaker 1: Man wanted to ask you all about this just to

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Speaker 1: continue on here. Because the Lakers shot out of a

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Speaker 2: They go on the road to a depleted Hawks team.

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Speaker 1: Granted, the Lakers are dealing with injuries to two of

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Speaker 1: They go out and get smoked by the shorthanded Hawks

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Speaker 1: on the road. First day at a road trip, JJ

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Speaker 1: Reddy could barely finish a press conference by the way, JJ, bro, like,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get him some value of something.

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Speaker 3: Bro, his hair is gonna go great, is gonna lose

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Speaker 3: the fact he's stressed out.

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Speaker 5: He's so takes it. He takes a job, seriously hired

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Speaker 1: I get it, but like as two games.

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Speaker 5: It's only game seven eight.

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Speaker 1: Like everything like life and death. But JJ basically can't

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Speaker 1: even finish a press conference. But I wanted to ask

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Speaker 1: just lay an egg in at l Is it? Is

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Speaker 1: it the atl flu where guys enjoying the festivities.

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Speaker 4: That listen, Listen, this is their first game on the

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Speaker 4: road trip, right they go to Atlanta? How many times

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Speaker 4: once a year Magic City is in Atlanta? I think

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Speaker 5: Sometimes showing up.

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Speaker 2: Might not be You might not be coming back.

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Speaker 4: You ain't coming back to going back to it, you

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Speaker 4: ain't coming back to Atlanta, So you know they might

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Speaker 4: have slide out. I mean I only think I could think, yeah,

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Speaker 5: And just a fool, it's a full move.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just them laying like I don't believe

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Speaker 3: teams what I'm saying, so what is I just think

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Speaker 3: they just sunshines and the dogs ass every once in

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Speaker 3: a while.

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Speaker 2: Got the limit.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be crazy over one game, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna be victim of a moment, Like

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Speaker 3: how the back game, Atlanta probably close, It should have

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Speaker 5: Sometimes he brought.

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Speaker 1: Back, made a run.

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Speaker 5: Your leaders didn't have a Luca having twenty two eleven.

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Speaker 7: trying to j J wasn't happy. He wasn't trying to

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Speaker 7: hear the excuses. But yeah, that means that it's just

443
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Speaker 7: one night. We'll see how they bounced back. How many

444
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Speaker 7: games on this road tip three or four. See, it's

445
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 7: a wake up call. They probably needed it so they

446
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,439
Speaker 7: can Yeah, they probably came in.

447
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Speaker 1: It was just it was just energy. They didn't have

448
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Speaker 1: just a low energy, no sense of urgency.

449
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Speaker 3: They on bullshit, Atlanta, we should be all beat now

450
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 3: now it's like all right, wake up call.

451
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Speaker 4: So but then also another thing, when you start these

452
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Speaker 4: road trips to the first game going from west to east.

453
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Speaker 4: The time difference, Yeah, you know that can affect like

454
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Speaker 4: your body because like your hours. Yeah, you lose three hours.

455
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Speaker 4: So you like used to like playing yes early, like

456
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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. We when we played when

457
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Speaker 4: I was in the league, like it was drastic. How

458
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Speaker 4: like when we played one o'clock games, because we always

459
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Speaker 4: played seven seven thirty games, so that one o'clock game

460
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Speaker 4: we always was sluggish.

461
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Speaker 3: Yeahs when we came to anytime we come to Boss

462
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Speaker 3: on a Sunday, it's like one o'clock twelve.

463
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Speaker 2: It does, it does.

464
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Speaker 4: Body is so used to all right, I play, I

465
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 4: practiced that team, and then your body get used to that.

466
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Speaker 4: Then you like playing at one or you're playing three

467
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Speaker 4: hours before you normally play, your body just don't wake

468
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Speaker 4: up or something.

469
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Speaker 2: Your muscle memory.

470
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Speaker 4: It's just it's it's weird, it's it's it sounds like

471
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Speaker 4: an excuse, but it's really something to.

472
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Speaker 1: It got you. Uh, just moving on to the heat.

473
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Speaker 1: They had another nice to win against the Pacers. It

474
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Speaker 1: just feels like they're just overachieving it for four and

475
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Speaker 1: no at home.

476
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Speaker 2: Hasn't happened since they made the finals.

477
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Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy, Chris, but like as it happen

478
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Speaker 1: since they made nineteen in nineteen twenty.

479
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Speaker 3: You gotta get credit credits, dude. You know it's falling home.

480
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 3: Ain't no, ain't no sloud.

481
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Speaker 1: Norman Powell, which I think was just not a hugely

482
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Speaker 1: discussed move in the off season.

483
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Speaker 2: He's missed a few games, but he's.

484
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Speaker 1: Averaging a career high twenty three after having a career

485
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Speaker 1: high season last year, which.

486
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Speaker 3: Is kind of crazy having his best year. He should

487
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Speaker 3: have been All Star last year.

488
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Speaker 5: All Star he was even he was.

489
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Speaker 1: He was a boardline by the time because he was

490
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Speaker 1: All Star game he was.

491
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Speaker 5: He was, he was a leading team scoring, he was.

492
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Speaker 1: Bro came they was leaning on him, Bro.

493
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Speaker 5: And they gave it to James. James got the All

494
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Speaker 5: Star last year.

495
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Speaker 1: He was a borderline All Star, Paul, I know you

496
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Speaker 1: don't think that way.

497
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Speaker 2: And he looking at.

498
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Speaker 4: Him as like a really good role player, really good

499
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Speaker 4: off the bench.

500
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Speaker 5: Yeah, score All Star.

501
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 2: He was doing.

502
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: His numbers were good enough and they were winning that

503
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 3: like they were Clippers were in a good conversation, like

504
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 3: winning to.

505
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Speaker 5: Me, and he was a guy on the team.

506
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Speaker 1: What's crazy is he's doing this at thirty. He's having

507
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Speaker 1: his best years of his career.

508
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 3: But they traded Hi because they couldn't pay him. That's

509
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So, and he's needed right

510
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: now because talent heroes out. Yeah, but Miami's been playing

511
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 3: good even without him and talent because the system.

512
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Speaker 5: But he's playing well.

513
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 2: Heat we talked about it.

514
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Speaker 1: They're leading the league in pace there I believe either

515
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Speaker 1: first to second in offensive efficiency, which again, like if

516
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: you look at this lineup, So before Sebruary, best offense

517
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Speaker 1: in the NBA.

518
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 3: Before February, before Kawhi came back, he was leading the

519
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Speaker 3: leading scorer on the team.

520
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Speaker 5: He was averaging more.

521
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Speaker 3: His numbers dropped at the end where he's ended up

522
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Speaker 3: averaging maybe twenty twenty one, but he was averaging like

523
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Speaker 3: twenty four. Yeah, he was up to averaging and he

524
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Speaker 3: was the leading scorer. He was shooting forty plus from three,

525
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Speaker 3: and he was averaging twenty plus points and they would

526
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Speaker 3: win a game because.

527
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Speaker 1: Of norm the one game that I went to into

528
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Speaker 1: it last year.

529
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Speaker 3: Again, not saying like there's certain guys that aren't All Stars,

530
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Speaker 3: but that they still make the All Star team.

531
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Speaker 5: I've seen, I've seen some guys sneaking.

532
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Speaker 2: Look, this isn't hard to sneak in the West, though.

533
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Speaker 1: This is for the All Star team. Atlanta have four

534
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Speaker 1: he was, by the way, that's always the example people use.

535
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Speaker 2: How did that Williams in the All Star locker?

536
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Atlanta had four guys go the jeft

537
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Speaker 3: Kyle Korver.

538
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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

539
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he would have been one of those stranger.

540
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Speaker 2: Like top three in the West for him to get in.

541
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Speaker 5: Man, what do you want injury?

542
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Speaker 2: Like?

543
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Speaker 5: He would have been everybody else that got injured.

544
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Speaker 1: What do you guys think is the heat ceiling in

545
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: the East? We're ten games in again, Paul said it

546
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: like we don't ship, not setting stone until twenty tod days.

547
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 4: You can see you can start seeing who who what

548
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: what you can kind of see after twenty five that comes.

549
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Speaker 2: Out ten games we're still right now.

550
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Speaker 3: Steel for me, I still even then unless they make

551
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: a move that roster, they can be top six and

552
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: being a playoffs like not plan.

553
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Speaker 5: But I don't see them making it out the first round.

554
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not a unless really out coaching somebody

555
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: like Milwaukee.

556
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Speaker 2: It's just not a second round talent in terms.

557
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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's say, let's say, out coach somebody. They get

558
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Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

559
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Speaker 2: Hell man, they might be.

560
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Speaker 1: They might be playing better than Orlando, I'll tell you

561
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Speaker 1: that freaking yea.

562
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Speaker 3: So if they match up with Orlando or something like

563
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Speaker 3: that and it's out coaches them or something, you know.

564
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: So yeah, we still were still luke warm on the

565
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Speaker 1: heat pun intended.

566
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Speaker 2: But but uh, let's.

567
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Speaker 1: Get right into our favorite part of the show every

568
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Speaker 1: single night. That's the picks of the night, presented by

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Speaker 1: Prize Picks.

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Speaker 3: And which our picked last time. Then age, Well, I

571
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 3: don't think if I can remember correctly.

572
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Speaker 1: Some decent ones. I know we had the winby under

573
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Speaker 1: at least I did. Evan Mobley is playing Miami less

574
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Speaker 1: and lesson more more or less than nine and a

575
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Speaker 1: half rebounds.

576
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Speaker 5: They're playing against. They're playing against Miami right.

577
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Speaker 1: Of possessions.

578
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 3: Khalil were over there, they running up and down against pace.

579
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Speaker 5: That's a tough one. I'm gonna I'm gonna go. I'm

580
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Speaker 5: gonna go less than.

581
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Speaker 2: I'm more than.

582
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Speaker 1: I'm more than the heat of the fastest paced team,

583
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Speaker 1: and that is out fastest paced team in the n

584
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Speaker 1: b A a lot of opportunities for rebounds.

585
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Speaker 5: Bam out I'll go. I'll go with more than bam,

586
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 5: I'll go more.

587
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Speaker 2: Than in Miami.

588
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: In Miami, they used to do that.

589
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be here in.

590
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Speaker 6: The South, I have no might not have a young

591
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 6: young guy.

592
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna stick with my Lester.

593
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to Lester less Lester and not to

594
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: not to be that guy.

595
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Speaker 1: But I've seen them mostly.

596
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Speaker 5: On streets different Yeah.

597
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: Outside.

598
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Speaker 4: I will say this, it's early in the season, so

599
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: like you're more likely to go out earlier and then later.

600
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Speaker 2: I have a question for you guys.

601
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Speaker 1: Did you guys go out based on the quality of

602
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: the opponent?

603
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 4: Absolutely no, So no question. We're playing the boy, We're

604
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 4: playing the hornets.

605
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

606
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to like six in.

607
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Speaker 5: The morning for sure. For sure.

608
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Speaker 3: I mean I never I never went crazy now I

609
00:27:52,600 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: would depending on them. It also depends on the city

610
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 3: and how often you can again, so you gotta take

611
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 3: advantage so even if certain cities, like if you go

612
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 3: in to Phoenix or Atlanta, if they're even if they're good,

613
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: you still might go out, but you probably.

614
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 5: Go home early. Got you, you know what I'm saying.

615
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 5: But yeah, the teams that weren't you, it would take

616
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Speaker 5: it time. You take your time outside.

617
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Speaker 2: I have another question.

618
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Speaker 3: I ain't in no rush to get to the house.

619
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Speaker 3: I'm saying, I gotta worry about it. We'll be all right.

620
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Speaker 1: I have a question about the NBA cities thing too,

621
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Speaker 1: Like when you're in Milwaukee, right, and let's just say,

622
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Milwaukee's a bad example. Let's say you're

623
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Speaker 1: in Charlotte and Atlanta's the next night. Are you guys

624
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: rushing to get out of Charlotte to get to Atlanta.

625
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Speaker 4: Well, it depends because if we're we can coach can

626
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 4: be like, we're going to stay the night in Atlanta.

627
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 4: So we would just wait after the game, since we

628
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: might if it's a back to back, because we might

629
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Speaker 4: be off the next day. Because if it was back

630
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 4: to back and we off the next day, we're gonna

631
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Speaker 4: stay to night and just fly the next that God. Yeah,

632
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 4: so New York would be a city though we're trying

633
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 4: to get to New York.

634
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: Got let's get on.

635
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 5: Her on the plane.

636
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: Feel like any major city you try to get to.

637
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: But again, it depends on how the games was spaced out.

638
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: So you have a three game road trip before game

639
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: road trip and there's a day in between, and it's like,

640
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: all right, d C, and we're going to going to Atlanta,

641
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: Atlanta or Miami or Chicago's like, let's not stay, we'll stay.

642
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: We'll get to Chicago early. Then I have the day

643
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: off of Chicago. And then if we say if we

644
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: can stay in the city longer, Usually the head the

645
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: top three guys would be like they're going to scheduling.

646
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: All right, we're going to stay on talk unless the

647
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: coach felt some way, like if Doc was like not,

648
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: Doc was like are we staying here?

649
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 5: Why the hell were staying in More or you know

650
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Or Detroit.

651
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: Doc said, so you guys never wanted to spend extra

652
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: time in Memphis or anything like that.

653
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: Like the Western Conference is terrible.

654
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Likeland, you never wanted to stay extra time. Sacramento

655
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: never wanted to stay.

656
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 5: The bad cities on both sides.

657
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 4: Listen, listen, there's how many cities. Is in the Eastern

658
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: Conference Toronto, d C, New York, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta. Like

659
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: when I went to the end of my career the

660
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 4: Western Conference, I was like, this is weak.

661
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Speaker 2: And then all the flight all the flights is two hours.

662
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, depending on but there's some city.

663
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: Oh, Texas City, Houston, Dallas, Houston. You got two l

664
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Speaker 3: A teams. You got the Bay.

665
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying, you got to the Bay.

666
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Speaker 5: You got Phoenix base hit a miss, but Phoenix is.

667
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Speaker 1: You got Phoenix Scotts Like, it's not it's.

668
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 5: Not what, it's not what.

669
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: And then like everything on the in the West coast

670
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 4: close at too, Yeah, the East coast.

671
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: Is at l in New York and Miami don't close.

672
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: But if you have to say so, Like the guys,

673
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: let's coach said, no, we want them to focus. We're

674
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: not going to stay to night over. We're not gonna

675
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: get to Miami earlier and stay the night over. The

676
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: guys would say, yo, let's get there early.

677
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: Because I've heard of certain teams with certain guys, was

678
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: like we in LA were staying.

679
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 5: The coach trust you to do. So, I'm saying, if

680
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 5: we're not leaving.

681
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: In last we have to veteran te veterantane got you.

682
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 5: The coach trust you.

683
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: But if you're a young team, now y'all in and

684
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: out of that city on the road, coach like not.

685
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 5: We need to focus. Y'all get to Miami. Get one

686
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 5: night in Miami.

687
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: Out Jared Allen, We're going more, very more for him.

688
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, more than seven and a half collel where nine

689
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: and a half rebounds?

690
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 5: Well, no, Bam, I think he has to Yeah, I'm

691
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 5: gonna go.

692
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go more for him, So less for Evan mobilely,

693
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: more for Jared Allen, more for Clil.

694
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: Where howmy hotkast who's having a bounce back year. So

695
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: happy for him.

696
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 5: Man had a great rookie year.

697
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: Last year was horrible looking back, and now he's back

698
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: to like looking like him, you know, a great role player.

699
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go more more for Homi as well.

700
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna go more for.

701
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 5: Rebound scoring well, but I don't know if he's rebounding well.

702
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: More for collel where as well.

703
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: We're going more or less than twenty five and a

704
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: half for Donovan Mitchell.

705
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm going more for Donovan Mitchell.

706
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: I think he I think he's it's certain cities you

707
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 4: like to play in. Miami is one of those cities where, like,

708
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 4: I love to play in Miami, and I know he's

709
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 4: one of those guys that loves to play there.

710
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go less for Harmony, Hawkins rebounds, I'll go

711
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: more for Don got you.

712
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go more for Don.

713
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: For Norm Powell twenty two and a half points, he's

714
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: averaging twenty three.

715
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul, it's borderline All.

716
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: Star from last year, believe it or not.

717
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go less for Powell verse Cleveland because he's

718
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 4: gonna have his hands full with Garden, Donovan, Mitchell Fair

719
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 4: and the guard play. It's gonna you know, that can

720
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 4: wear on you as far as trying to do both.

721
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna take I'm gonna say less.

722
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 5: I'll go more for Norm. I think he's gonna get

723
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 5: he's gonna get to his buckets.

724
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going more as well.

725
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 5: With the other two. Definitely, I'm going.

726
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: Less a Wiggins less.

727
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: Half points eighteen and that is his first game back. No, no, no,

728
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: this is like it's Darius.

729
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: This is his second or third game there's yeah, he's

730
00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: been out there.

731
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't see him at the last game he took.

732
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, this will be his second game back, so less

733
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: than for both actually likes those lessons.

734
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the lesson for Whigs and less than

735
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 5: for dj.

736
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go more so for Wiggs and I'm gonna

737
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: go more. I'm gonna go more and more for Daris Garland.

738
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: There you go.

739
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: Now, let's continue to walk them down. Guys. The Detroit Pistons,

740
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: they just had a great win on the road against Philadelphia.

741
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 5: These numbers are crazy for tires.

742
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, are we talking about Sorry I thought we

743
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: were talking about the Pistons here in my back.

744
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: Let me bring that back.

745
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: The Pistons played the Sixers on Sunday, Battle of the

746
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: Top of the East.

747
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: I don't know who could have saw this.

748
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: Even again, we're early days, but even ten days, ten

749
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: games in, I don't know that we could have predicted

750
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: these two specific teams to be the tannam at the

751
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: Top second night of it, back to back. So Joelle

752
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: did not play Love the Sixers throwbacks spot away, I'm

753
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: very reminiscent of.

754
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 5: It.

755
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: Was dope, Yeah, it was dope, very very nostalgic vibes

756
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: and beat is averaging eighteen points in twenty two minutes.

757
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: I feel like they should do that for the Cup games. Oh,

758
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: the throwback of the wild ass court. Just have the

759
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: throwback court for the Cup games with the throwback so

760
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: we know.

761
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a fan of the court.

762
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 5: The court's not as bad as they were last year,

763
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 5: but last year the courts were.

764
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not aficulous courts. Adam said, like people know.

765
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: It helps in the sense that people know that it's

766
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: Cup games. Yeah, but at the same time, it's just

767
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: an eye sore. I guess in person they look way better. Yeah,

768
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 1: but it's just the eye sore TV. It's a lot

769
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: so so Joe was averaging, Bro, that's wild. That Minnesota

770
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: court is crazyright. It's so gross. I hate the great

771
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: joint Brooklyn.

772
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: You can do the throwback and add a little different,

773
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 3: you know, more color to what I'm saying.

774
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: Well, it's just gotta be a better way.

775
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 5: It has. The face when you see that court, just

776
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 5: gotta that's a great.

777
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 3: I'm Sacramento is not that bad, but yeah, so Philly

778
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 3: Detroit hooping.

779
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: Hooping, hooping, But just to get to Philly first, let's

780
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: get them out the way, Because we talked about Joell

781
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: with the spot minutes and not playing back to backs.

782
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: How sustainable is it to play this well while still

783
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: integrating a guy who's so important to what you do.

784
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: Do you think they could just learn how to play

785
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: two ways?

786
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially in the East, I think it's very sustainable

787
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: when you got Tyre's Maxley playing the way Tyre's Maxie's playing,

788
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: and then you know, you got guys pitching and Quinton

789
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: Grimes doing really well. Kelly right here and there, they

790
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: got Jared McCain back, even though he's still slow and

791
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: building up his minutes, you know, Drummond give him some

792
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: good you know, spot minutes. They got it said it's

793
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: the East, so it's pretty open. But uh yeah Joel

794
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: at some point. And they got Paul get Pg back

795
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: right yeah, to integrate him. People got that what I'm saying.

796
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: He was there, but yeah, you can, Well.

797
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: What's our biggest concern about Philly health?

798
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 5: Right?

799
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: Yea yeah, because now that we've seen an early, got

800
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 4: a small simple size of what they look like as

801
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 4: a team early and you're like, whoa hold on? They

802
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: still can add veterans Embiid and Paul George because these

803
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 4: young guys is balling out of their mind. So if

804
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 4: they can continue that production and these Vets and and

805
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: OG's could come in and kind of like be the

806
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 4: glue and be like, all right, you know, we just

807
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 4: got to play a role man. I'm telling Philly is

808
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 4: gonna be scary.

809
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: I think Joelle has done a great job of taking

810
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: a back seat, picking his spots. Like he's so dialed

811
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: in offensively, he's like you like you said, like he's

812
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: just roll out of betting get twenty points because he's

813
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: just so damn good.

814
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 5: On seven feet, dominant, three hundred pounds.

815
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, like knows how to draw fouls, know how to

816
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: do that. I wonder when Paul comes back, though, is

817
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: he gonna be fine with just being a role player.

818
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 5: I think he knows what he's signed up for.

819
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: I think it also, how does it work when the

820
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 3: guy's making fifty million dollars and he comes in and

821
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: it's just like, yo, be another.

822
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 5: Guy paying him for his resume.

823
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: Bro be another guy.

824
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 3: I hope it doesn't take away from edge Comb sure

825
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: as And I think that's another thing that I want

826
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 3: to say. They can stay afloat if he stays confident

827
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: and aggressive. I've seen last couple. He seems a little

828
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: bit more passive tonight. You know, he didn't seem like

829
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: his aggressive self. He still takes some shots, but if

830
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: he can, they would have won tonight if he would

831
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: have balled that, like if he balled like he know me,

832
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: he had eleven tonight. He's starting to slow down a

833
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: little bit. Yeah, but if he can still play like

834
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: we know he's capable playing and Tyres, they can easily

835
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 3: stay afloat and hopefully when PG comes back it doesn't

836
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: take away from his growth. Yeah, but yes, it's sustainable.

837
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: If though, if Tyree's and Edgecomb and you got Quin Grimes,

838
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: you know we're gonna get from him. But if Edgecomb

839
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: as a rookie continues to grow and play well, they

840
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 3: can be you know, they sustaining.

841
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 4: Pg's value is gonna be kind of like what he

842
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 4: does in the playoffs.

843
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, like, all right, let these guys

844
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: deveil up. PG.

845
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: We need you to be there when they get money time,

846
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 4: when it's money time, because you know, DJ, he was

847
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 4: a rookie, still talented, but they're gonna need Paul George

848
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 4: if they're ever gonna make a deep playoff run and

849
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 4: they need his experience.

850
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

851
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: It's crazy, but like, go back to those numbers one time,

852
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: Chris Tyre's MAXI through nine games them three hundred points

853
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 3: almost nine seventy five sists, thirty seven threes, ten blocks.

854
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: Jones James Harden is the only NBA player to reach

855
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 3: those marks over any nine games.

856
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Fishing and better than AI MVP season. That's kind of crazy.

857
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's forty eight from forty eight from three,

858
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: forty eight from the field.

859
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 5: He's not crazy.

860
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: That's wherever you got on the court.

861
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: He making shots, yeah, and five rebounds the game, he's

862
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: rebounding and eight assist the game, just a double as assist.

863
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: Well over the course of the season, the numbers will

864
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: come back, don't.

865
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 5: Come there like Joe comes back, comes back.

866
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of the best shooters in the NBA.

867
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy to be what he is on

868
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: the ball and still be that silky smooth with the

869
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: jump shot. It's just crazy. And Detroit the other side

870
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: of this man, Like I honestly came into the season

871
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: thinking they had an outside shot of crashing the Eastern

872
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: Conference finals. Even potentially like, you know, having an upset

873
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: kind of Cinderella run to the NBA Finals. But I

874
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: think they've even surpassed my expectations.

875
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: It started off slow, but they've got they starting to

876
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: build momentum rhythm. Yeah, and that was a big winter

877
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 3: night in Philly. You know, without some guys, you know

878
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: they have a couple of guys out. Uh, but yeah,

879
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 3: kid two points in the first half, finished with twenty six,

880
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: twenty eight, whatever. It was big win, close in clutch time.

881
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: That's where I think down to stretch him.

882
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: He's so trustworthy with the.

883
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: Ball because that I think that Knick series helped him

884
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: to develop that, like be more poors. Just like being

885
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: in the playoffs first time there. He's showing his double team.

886
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 3: Come now, I'm cool, Like I ain't tripping, i ain't passing.

887
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna figure it out. Yeah, not only making players,

888
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 3: but getting big time baskets down to stretch for them

889
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 3: against Philly.

890
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: Jalen Duran, who we were talking about before the show,

891
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: he's having just an incredible start to the season.

892
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

893
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: The fact that they can just get that dunk and

894
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: Andre Drummond was so crazy. The fact that they could

895
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: give it to Duran in the short role and trust

896
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: him to make those right reads going downhill on the

897
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: three against two.

898
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: He's just been an animal on.

899
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 5: The board's score every time. If he wants flash is.

900
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: Some handle too.

901
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: It's crazy how skilled the guy is physicality, he's just

902
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: been incredible. It's just funny. And again, like we bring

903
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: up Orlando every shore, at least I do. This is

904
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: kind of what we expected Orlando to come out and do,

905
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: show like internal improvement, Like they didn't go out and

906
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: make the splashy so they did, they did the one

907
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: splashy trade, but it was like, oh, internally, we're young.

908
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: Our young guys are going to be even better this

909
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: year than they were last year. But that's what Detroit's done.

910
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we added Duncan Robinson to replace Beasley

911
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: as a shooter. Other than that, we rolling the dice

912
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: with the same team and it's just the young guys

913
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: just showing that they're getting better year over.

914
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 3: Year and eleven bro nineteen eleven, he's averaging. Yeah, they

915
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: got seven, eight guys and double figures.

916
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 4: But this is I'm gonna look at the East when

917
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 4: it comes down to it. I like Detroit. I like

918
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: you know, I like Milwaukee, Chicago is showing some promise,

919
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 4: but like when you really look at it top to bottom,

920
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: like who is Detroit's second best player?

921
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 2: Do them right at the moment.

922
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: These guys that can give you, those guys that can

923
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: give you flash at moments Thompson, like Tobias can get

924
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: like I'm saying like this, those guys can give you

925
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 3: a twenty maybe in the playoffs, a twenty thirty point game.

926
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 4: And so this is all that's why I'm favoring I'm

927
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 4: favoring Philly to come out of the East because there's

928
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: only two teams that has an All Star at their

929
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 4: second best player, and that's Cleveland, New York, Well.

930
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: New York.

931
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: So those are my three top three teams. And when

932
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 4: your second best player is also an All Star. Because

933
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 4: in New York you got Towns is probably the second

934
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 4: best player. Yes, In Philly, who's the second best player?

935
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: Now Joel's the second MVP.

936
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

937
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: Facts.

938
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: And then we talk about that third team with they

939
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 4: got Clarence Garland.

940
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got three All Stars.

941
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're not when it when it's when it

942
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 4: all the smoke clear, I think those are gonna be

943
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 4: the three teams that we're gonna be looking.

944
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: At and think about Detroit though, is I think maybe

945
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: Cade will be so dominant in the playoffs that it

946
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: won't matter that he doesn't have a second guy, because

947
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: that's always possible to right, Like you just become you

948
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: just dominate a matchup.

949
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like Milwaukee will be honest, right,

950
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 3: exactly who's the second best player?

951
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't done nothing since he left Middletown.

952
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:46,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just middle left. Yeah, And I was looking

953
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 3: at it's like Ryan Rollins right now is the second.

954
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 3: Like he's the one that's playing most consistent, and there's

955
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: all the All Star there, Miles Turner, who you know,

956
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 3: it was decent, but.

957
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: There's too much and also destroyed with the Knicks matchupsifically

958
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: because they won six games last year. The point differential

959
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: in that series was probably like ten points with Detroit

960
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: next year was clo.

961
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: It was nothing but close games.

962
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: So it's like, you gotta feel like I'm right there

963
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: with these guys if we get into a tight situation

964
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. And so yeah, I've just been blown

965
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: away by Detroit and what they've done so far in

966
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: Kate is he's taking another step. And you know, I

967
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: think we knew he had a great floor game and

968
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: could it was like great with the assist and finding guys,

969
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: but like his one on one scoring is just becoming

970
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: incredible three levels scoring, as they say on the internet.

971
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: I mean that's what the floor games impressed me more

972
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: this year because I knew he could score like scoring

973
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: I thought was like we knew who could do that.

974
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 5: It's like, can you get his other guys better?

975
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

976
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: And seeing Jalen durn like take another step is like

977
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: that's a that's kid. Allowing him to be able to

978
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: trusting his other guys got to be still coming with

979
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: the bench like he played a two many game of

980
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 3: k Like those guys as eating off the fact that

981
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: Kate is able to find them, draw their attention, you

982
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and trust them in the situation,

983
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: allow them to make plays and quarterbacks.

984
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: So speak shots to Detroit City. Man, they spent so

985
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: long being so garbage. I'm so happy. It was a

986
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: long time. Like basically since Sea Web was there, they

987
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs after that.

988
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

989
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: Like two thousand and nine is some crazy shit. Two

990
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: thousand and eight was the last time they made the

991
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: before time.

992
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 5: It's been a long time.

993
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 4: Bro, damn flying bro ever since Chauncey left.

994
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, they had they had Sea Web with a

995
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: messed up now he had came at the end of that.

996
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 5: That's run. I remember that. That's crazy. Damn.

997
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I was a was there.

998
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't think ai ay. I might have got a

999
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: cup of coffee on that last year, that last situation.

1000
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: Remember they traded they from Denver.

1001
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: When was the last playoffs? Was a playoff season.

1002
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 2: Nineteen twenty? Yeah they been there? Come on.

1003
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 5: Eighteen nineteen.

1004
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all playing Detroit? Been there?

1005
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 5: I wonder who was there? Was that drumming in them?

1006
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 2: Man?

1007
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 5: Come on that moos look roster?

1008
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: Wow? How this team? Blake Griffin, that's right, Stanley.

1009
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, Ron?

1010
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 4: How did this team make the playoffs? Jeez, lukenar how

1011
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 4: did this team even make the playoffs? That's crazy? Forty

1012
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 4: one and forty one?

1013
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: Casey swept out of there, Get up out of there.

1014
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 5: My bad.

1015
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: I forgot this Detroit playoff team. Respect on on on

1016
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: Wayne Ellington's name.

1017
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 5: Bro, it was solid, it was solid, bro.

1018
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah college Wayne had a career year that then he

1019
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: played his best basketball in that year lights out.

1020
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 5: Well, yeah they had drum.

1021
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: I mean in the least. Yeah.

1022
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: Again, happy for that fan base. They even do it

1023
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: a lot.

1024
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a while.

1025
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: All right. Let's get into a couple of the fan questions.

1026
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: Simon Theodore wants you guys to compare your three point shooting.

1027
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: I guess your styles for.

1028
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: Long Brunch.

1029
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 5: A jump shooter. I feel like, what do you mean

1030
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 5: by jump shooter?

1031
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: I jumped, but I had to take as I got older,

1032
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 3: the lifting legs I had to take even now when

1033
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 3: I ball, when I play now, I ain't shooting jumpers.

1034
00:47:58,920 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 5: It's more of a set shot.

1035
00:47:59,800 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: Now.

1036
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 5: Wow, it's just yeah, what about.

1037
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 4: You, Paul, I was always a well early in my career,

1038
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 4: I was off the dribble from three, a lot of

1039
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 4: off the dribble, and then as I got older, it

1040
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 4: turned into like a set shot.

1041
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: But what do you mean compared?

1042
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: I think they wanted your three points styles. Yeah, we

1043
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: need a little bit better details of the question.

1044
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: Orthodox said mine was a jump shot and I was

1045
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 3: more off off of just space, not pin downs. Didn't

1046
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: run plays with me.

1047
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 4: So I didn't call I could off the dribble, but

1048
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 4: as I got older, I was spot up more.

1049
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1050
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: A question from Jay Hearns for you both, would y'all

1051
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: have liked to play today's game or contend with the

1052
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 1: er you played? And I feel like you both played

1053
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: like last years in the league was pretty close to

1054
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: what's happening right now.

1055
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 5: I was a.

1056
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: Stretch for towards the Yeah. Yeah, in Washington in Brooklyn.

1057
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know a lot of a lot of the

1058
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 4: game was hit in that direction where he was having

1059
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 4: four round one.

1060
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: But I think you would have been a wing today

1061
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: to though.

1062
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, I would have been out of play.

1063
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 4: I know him, like I couldn't play when I came

1064
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 4: into the league.

1065
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: No shot, no shot, a security guard strong dudes.

1066
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 4: It was just not But like you know, I can

1067
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 4: play in it pretty much any era, belie.

1068
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe that too.

1069
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: And the skill set you bring, Danny like it's still

1070
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: going to train.

1071
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: I think it fun to play in today's eraror because

1072
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 3: more fast paced and shooting got threes now that I

1073
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: but I really appreciate the error because I got a

1074
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: chance to play with like I said, the tail end

1075
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: of the old school into the new like so when

1076
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: it was post and then kind of transition I got

1077
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: a chance to experience.

1078
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 4: I wonder where I would have ended up on the

1079
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 4: all time like three points made list, because when I retired,

1080
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 4: I was number four all time And shoot.

1081
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: That's crazy. You the number four made three.

1082
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: Pointed when I retired.

1083
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, now I'm probably like fifteen or something like

1084
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 4: that happened so fast.

1085
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, but for real, yeah, like.

1086
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, way, I slid way down ever since this

1087
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: new Uh.

1088
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 5: But I know the dude Jay security.

1089
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: Dude, let's see uh oh ninth there.

1090
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: You go, wow, ninth all two thousand, one hundred and

1091
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: forty three three pointers made.

1092
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I was around fourteen fifteen.

1093
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 5: Oh there go.

1094
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the more updated. That's fifteen.

1095
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 1: T is still fucking crazy.

1096
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 3: Two thousand threes a lot, bro.

1097
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: I was the fourth I was.

1098
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 4: There was only four guys that made two thousand threes

1099
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 4: when I when I retired.

1100
00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 3: Yeah no those guys now, James three thousand.

1101
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: No one's ever gonna make four thousand. Well maybe so

1102
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 4: like yeah, people taking it's gonna.

1103
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 3: Be Yeah, nobody shoots at that rate. He shoots you

1104
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: average like fifteen atensive game, Like I'm.

1105
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: Saying, yeah, I guess I don't think he.

1106
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 5: Shoots a hot clip. That's one that's nobody's gonna I

1107
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 5: don't think people catching up.

1108
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna try, you know, and some guys are gonna

1109
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: catch up the Clay and Dame and Ray and it

1110
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: probably even James.

1111
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 5: But I don't think people Bro, Deph is done.

1112
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 3: I think Ray and James are pretty They're gonna be

1113
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: staying top. They're gonna stay top five for a while.

1114
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying somebody will get in there, like Pas, people

1115
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: will get to the top. They can catch Dame. No

1116
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 3: Damon still, Damon will come back and still add to that,

1117
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 3: probably get three thousand. Maybe when it's all Sadden done. Yeah, Clay,

1118
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: I think I think Reggie is the one that's that's

1119
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 3: not safe.

1120
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: Damn.

1121
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: Jamal made a lot of threes.

1122
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 5: Bro.

1123
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, scary Terry. He didn't even really fully play in

1124
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: this crazy three point crazy error.

1125
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 5: So that's the Jet scary Tigers.

1126
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Jet, excuse me, Jet party.

1127
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 5: Different type of allegations going on.

1128
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: There, could you? Yeah?

1129
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 5: Uh?

1130
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: As question, was your favorite player to play against since

1131
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: you've been in the n b A.

1132
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I think as a competitor.

1133
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 3: You want to play against the top competition, and that

1134
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: was always like the best, the best team that was

1135
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: there or whether it was the Warriors when they had

1136
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 3: Katie or Miami when they had Bron and d Wade,

1137
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: you know, even okay Se when they had you know,

1138
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: rusting them James when he was in Houston. Yeah, like

1139
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: having those type of matchups. There was Lob City Clippers like.

1140
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: They was got you.

1141
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 5: It was nice.

1142
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 3: Even Boston when they had I was young, but they

1143
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 3: had they squad playing against those top teams.

1144
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 5: Man, those are the games you want to do, you

1145
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.

1146
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you?

1147
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 4: Your favorite player to play against since you've been in

1148
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 4: My favorite player to play against, uh was was Michael

1149
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 4: Jordan's like to just be able to because you understand

1150
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 4: when I got drafted he retired.

1151
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got drafted in ninety eight.

1152
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 4: I was like, two things happened when I retired. Two

1153
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 4: things that was devastating for me. Jordan retired and the

1154
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 4: Lakers moved out of the Forum because Inglewood and I

1155
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 4: was like, my dream was to play in the form. Wow,

1156
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 4: both things happened in the same year. So like when

1157
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 4: Jordan suited up for the Wizards. I was like, damn,

1158
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 4: I get to play against Jordan. That was like my

1159
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 4: favorite moment.

1160
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: Were you did you make the All Star team that year?

1161
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: That he had to fade away in the baseline You

1162
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: was there?

1163
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 2: I was there, yes, and wow yeah?

1164
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 5: Oh was that against against Vince Garden?

1165
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 2: I forget.

1166
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: I think Sean Marion was Guarden.

1167
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 5: He took Vince's sparks to start.

1168
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 4: I thought what we should have did was this game

1169
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 4: should have been over. We lost that game. Mike made

1170
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 4: the game the game, but then after that, I think

1171
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 4: they made a shot. I think Jermaine o Neill foiuled somebody.

1172
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was Kobe or I remember

1173
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 4: watching that, but I thought we should have ended the

1174
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 4: game there, but they played it was on like a

1175
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 4: few seconds left, and we wound up losing it.

1176
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 5: So you played.

1177
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: The Wizards were like average. That's kind of why like

1178
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: Mike had he was like, I'm tired of watching these

1179
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 1: guys mediocre. I gotta like actually helped myself. That's kind

1180
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: of crazy.

1181
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 5: GM come down to help.

1182
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: Making these fries.

1183
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: You know how coaches been like I can't go out

1184
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: and make the jump shots for you. It was like,

1185
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,959
Speaker 1: actually I can't that's crazy. But do you remember those

1186
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: Wizards games playing against Man?

1187
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: Might went at it?

1188
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 5: Really?

1189
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: I could imagine you were talking Greece.

1190
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because, like you understand, the summer before he

1191
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 4: came back, we was playing pick up with him.

1192
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: In Chicago, So you went down to those Yeah, I was.

1193
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: I was flying out to Chicago for those runs and

1194
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 4: we knew he was coming back and he was getting

1195
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 4: already in Chicago talking ship. I was like, damn. So

1196
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 4: he came and made it offish. I couldn't wait. Wait, oh,

1197
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 4: do you want.

1198
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: Us to do the Cup?

1199
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 5: Yeah? Who won a Cup game last year?

1200
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 2: Milwaukee?

1201
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 3: Milwaukee one, Milwaukee and the Milwaukee.

1202
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 5: Ok.

1203
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: I was at that game. I was like, man, okay,

1204
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna have problem with side.

1205
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 5: So this year is who we were choosing? Who the

1206
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 5: Cup game winners?

1207
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 4: Right?

1208
00:55:54,040 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 5: Who's coming out of what's this going on? Oh?

1209
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: We used to go at it? Yeah, total total.

1210
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, we would go at it. I blocked this fade

1211
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 4: or something. Wow, he was still good. He was still good.

1212
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: Right off the tip.

1213
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Eric jump, I'm like that.

1214
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 4: I was guarding a lot looking at the jumps. I

1215
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 4: was playing to guard a lot. I think Jordan was

1216
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 4: that small for time got him.

1217
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 2: Look, Jordan's still out on the break, Christ running, Yeah,

1218
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: that's late y.

1219
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: Crazy. Yeah, my god.

1220
00:56:52,880 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 2: Got to play with Jordan's lebron to the line bro

1221
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: to the Live show.

1222
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 5: Eighteen rest of the team at nine.

1223
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: He took the match up personally.

1224
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 2: Don't take that.

1225
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 5: Jordan Stackhouse got the gum to.

1226
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: You can't forgot here young that damn.

1227
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 4: That's the Jordan whistle right this, Oh man, just pull up, pull.

1228
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: Up, jab you pull up, get off.

1229
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 5: Lethal respect respected. The first step was quick.

1230
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 4: It's like, uh, who is that Bobby Simmons.

1231
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 5: Bobby played with Mike. That's hilarious.

1232
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: By the way, Paul Paul's footwork is ready. People always

1233
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: talking about Kobe Kauhi Mike, like Paul Paul and footwork and.

1234
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, talking to that's man. You know, we're.

1235
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 4: Gonna work out with Mike and then we'll go to

1236
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 4: his house, Like we will go to his house, We'll

1237
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 4: go to Towine house and play cards, me and him

1238
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 4: Oakley Jordan's.

1239
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 5: Oh let me get uh yep on the break. I

1240
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 5: feel like I feel like that's Tony Delk.

1241
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 3: I feel like Paul was deceptive, bro Like he didn't

1242
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 3: look athletic, but he na faster than he stronger, more

1243
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 3: more hops.

1244
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody, it was like.

1245
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 3: Damn, we got the first step, the first up he went.

1246
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 3: We played on Santoni went by his call to dunk.

1247
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 3: I was like, oh ship, I think it was went

1248
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 3: by a choir. Was like, what the fun?

1249
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 5: I was like, right, was deceptive, bro.

1250
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: Wan Dixon, that's right, crazy, it's the NBA blasts from

1251
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: the past.

1252
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 5: This is.

1253
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 4: Old school games man man right physical, justny times people

1254
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 4: went to the ground already.

1255
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 5: Playing in the mid range.

1256
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: Give me that Jordan's playing in the playing in the

1257
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: mid range.

1258
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 5: Actually had sets plays people coming to that.

1259
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: It ain't no.

1260
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 5: Doubling, Paul, Now, bro, it ain't just run the floor

1261
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 5: shoot the three is.

1262
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: Yes, we had a defensive secondary offense.

1263
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Go get them. Look at this,

1264
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 3: a couple of screens, picks, swing.

1265
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,959
Speaker 4: Money, no more sets, no more trouble hand off set ball, screen,

1266
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 4: one on one, no defensive system, you switch everything.

1267
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 5: Nasty that fake right, go left, bro.

1268
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 4: I used to hate playing San Antonio because y'all would

1269
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 4: always do that, that fucking that weird ass trap, that

1270
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 4: nobody else did the baseline. I used to hate that

1271
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 4: from the base, was just playing all the way on

1272
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 4: top of you. You turn right into the.

1273
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 5: Double team and be like, what I forget?

1274
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 3: Maybe it's Gary called Peyton. So Gary Payton used to come.

1275
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 3: He used to come to the baseline and still like

1276
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: so anytime we front whoever because the trapping the baseline,

1277
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 3: it's hard to you never the baseline.

1278
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: Guys right there, right there he just made I was

1279
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: just like, damn, look at that. That's crazy. Look at you.

1280
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 3: That's the difference to you got then. That's why Chois

1281
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: was so bro The hand without dribble so much moretro Yeah,

1282
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 3: you have to jump out the dun dunkle ball without

1283
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 3: jumping because of the hands.

1284
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: Over there, he's just placing that thing.

1285
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that's crazy.

1286
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, crunch time.

1287
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 5: Little to no.

1288
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 2: No, I missed this shot too, I think, yeah, God, damn,

1289
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 2: damn got mum.

1290
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 6: Like, yo, god, damn, Jeorge, you see that ship has elbow.

1291
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 5: Hit me stack and my stack and my over here. No,

1292
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 5: you ain't getting the shot off, damn. On the team

1293
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 5: was I don't know.

1294
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: You saw him right there? Uh on the bitch in

1295
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 2: a suit getting shots damn.

1296
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 5: Right in today's game?

1297
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: Oh we have to Yeah, who got Jordan?

1298
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 5: Who is that house? At what point in the career? Stack?

1299
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 5: Stack young at this.

1300
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 4: Point relatively Yeah yeah, yeah, we're around the same age,

1301
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 4: kind of like a couple of years older than me.

1302
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 2: He's still a young guy.

1303
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1304
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 2: Oh give me that. Ah lost this game? Why over shot?

1305
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 5: Stack? Ready to smack the ref? Look at.

1306
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 2: Like Jeorde, get off the rim?

1307
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 5: Don like move on, bro politics, Bro.

1308
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, Jordan. That was fun was getting to

1309
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 2: play against Mike.

1310
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: All right, we're doing the Cup games. He's gonna come

1311
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: out of what's gonna come? Who's gonna He's gonna win

1312
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: the Cup? Who's gonna win the MVP? All right? H

1313
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: Just just to get us out of here, man, we

1314
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: want to do some NBA Cup updates. You know, we

1315
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: had some some great NBA Cup this past weekend. I

1316
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: want to know who you guys think is gonna take

1317
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: the Cup this year? Who you think is going to

1318
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: be the most outstanding player of the NBA Cup.

1319
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 3: I feel like it's to me the years that the

1320
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,959
Speaker 3: Lakers won it and Milwaukee won it, they weren't very good.

1321
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 5: Sure and the like as a group the whole season

1322
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 5: or the playoffs.

1323
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 3: So I feel like it's gonna be one of those

1324
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 3: random teams that play well early in the season but

1325
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 3: then fall like fall off because I feel like after

1326
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 3: the Cup game, Lakers really yeah went down, Milwaukee kind

1327
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 3: of went down for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a little bit different this

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Speaker 1: year because I think they're playing semi finals at home,

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Speaker 1: which I think will make a big difference, especially for

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Speaker 1: those semi finals games, so that you're not playing like

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Speaker 1: I feel like.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be like one of those like those teams

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01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 5: that are like you like.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, man, I like the Pisses because I

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01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: think they're gonna take it serious enough, Like what the enough.

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Speaker 5: Chris who is undefeated the Cup games right now?

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Speaker 2: Nobody?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one to Nuggets, two and one, two and two.

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Speaker 2: Bakers.

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01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Raptors are not winning the NBA Cup. Guys,

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01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: don't worry about that.

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01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 2: I'm thinking like the Houston Rockets, That's what I like that.

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Speaker 5: I like that as like them or like Spurs Bulls. Nah, maybe.

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Speaker 1: Because I can see the Nuggets and yok, just straight

1347
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: up not taking it seriously. Think they're gonna try yeah,

1348
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: and he made such a crazy competitive guy. I feel like,

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01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: you don't play that.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be like one of the teams like not Miami,

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01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 5: but I like Detroit, man, I really do.

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01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: I like a young team.

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01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like you know what I'm saying, like when

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Speaker 3: the random ass teams that come well in the beginning season,

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Speaker 3: like like Chicago, I want to get some money, man.

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01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 2: Boys, I'm telling Houston Young Boys is hungry like that Houston.

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01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 2: I like that they're finally letting my guy read Shepherd

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01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 2: cook too. Bro had a good game.

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Speaker 3: I'm Darius's background Cleveland, but to and one a Cup games.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Cleveland. They need to win something, Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 5: They need to win something and something.

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01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 2: Bro, it's gonna be your m VP.

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01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 5: It's gonna be done.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be done. I'm going, will it be k D?

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01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 2: Will it be Shane Goon? S gooon?

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you have it our Cup predictions. Uh so, yeah, guys,

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Speaker 1: that's our show for today.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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