Speaker 1: Look how it's only films to be buried with. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director, a music stand and I love films. As
Speaker 1: Oscar Wilde once said, the very essence of romance is uncertainty,
Speaker 1: but you should always go for it, Like you may
Speaker 1: never understand Lost Highway, but you should definitely watch Lost Highway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, Oscar wild It's a fucking great film. I
Speaker 1: have no idea if you could call it romantic, but
Speaker 1: it's definitely worth a watch. Fair Play to your son.
Speaker 1: Every week I invite a special guest over. I tell
Speaker 1: them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their
Speaker 1: life through the films that meant the most of them.
Speaker 1: Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Jamila Jamil and
Speaker 1: even Fed Crampbell's. But this week it's the brilliant comedian
Speaker 1: host and author mister Jimmy Carr. Head over to the
Speaker 1: Patreon at patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldsteam, where
Speaker 1: you get about an extra twenty twenty five minutes with Jimmy,
Speaker 1: where we go deep talking about beginnings and endings. You
Speaker 1: get a truly shocking secret, and you also get the
Speaker 1: whole episode, uncut, ad free and as a video. Check
Speaker 1: it out over at patreon dot com. Forward Slash, Brett
Speaker 1: Goldsteain Ted Lasso season two is now all available on
Speaker 1: Apple tv Plus. You can watch the whole thing in
Speaker 1: one go. Soulmates season one is on Amazon Prime. You
Speaker 1: can watch that in one go. Although you know, take
Speaker 1: your time with both of him. Why rush things? Do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Make it last? So Jimmy
Speaker 1: Carr blasyell Imagine Jimmy Carr on the podcast. Jimmy Carr
Speaker 1: is a comedian, a writer, and a national treasure. He's
Speaker 1: written a new book which is a mixture of autobiography
Speaker 1: and self help. I thoroughly recommend it is out to
Speaker 1: buy now. We recorded this on Zoom a few nights ago.
Speaker 1: He was kind enough to record it. I can't remember
Speaker 1: what time it was, like, I'm in America, he's in
Speaker 1: the UK. It was like one in the morning. We
Speaker 1: started this like, that's very nice of him, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? What a lovely man to do that.
Speaker 1: I was very grateful for his time, and I think
Speaker 1: you will really love this episode. So that is it
Speaker 1: for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two of Films to Be Buried With. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is
Speaker 1: I Brett Goldstein, and I'm joined today by a writer,
Speaker 1: a multi book writer, a TV writer, a TV sketch star,
Speaker 1: a TV presenter, an award winner, a stand up and
Speaker 1: one of the funniest and most lessendry men in all
Speaker 1: of the land. Please welcome to this show. You're hero
Speaker 1: a'm ye, please welcome. It's mister Jimmy Carr. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you're like I presume you're worried we
Speaker 1: won't get on in this podcast and you were padding
Speaker 1: there with every possible sort of job title you could
Speaker 1: give me. Yeah, basically a stand up comedian and a
Speaker 1: chancer is what it is. It's like stand up comedians
Speaker 1: the main job, and everything else is a side hustle.
Speaker 1: That's gone all right now, Jimmy Car, I am in America.
Speaker 1: You are in England. We are recording this and zoom.
Speaker 1: What time of day is it? And why are you
Speaker 1: up so late at twelve thirty at night? I was
Speaker 1: waiting for you to get through the LA traffic is
Speaker 1: the reason I'm not so late now. I've just done
Speaker 1: a show in I was in Sunderland, which is just
Speaker 1: near Newcastle. I'm now in Newcastle in a hotel. It's
Speaker 1: all very nice. It's nice to be back on tour.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, it's quite nice to be working.
Speaker 1: How long have you been back gigging in real life
Speaker 1: in person? Well, they opened, they said theaters could reopen
Speaker 1: on June twenty first, so I've been. I've had maybe
Speaker 1: four nights off since then. It's now November. I've been
Speaker 1: pretty much on it straight away. I really enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've also written the book. Well,
Speaker 1: it was Lockdown, and what happened in Lockdown is I
Speaker 1: think most comedians were faced with a sort of ultimatum
Speaker 1: by their management. You can either do a podcast or
Speaker 1: write a book, and I took what I considered to
Speaker 1: be a dignified choice. I wrote a book. And I mean,
Speaker 1: it's great to be on your podcast, but really camera
Speaker 1: it's efforts. Yeah. I yesterday received your book and I've
Speaker 1: read one hundred pages of it that it's not to
Speaker 1: say that I don't want to read the rest, but
Speaker 1: I have read the first third of it. That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: In the day, I think that's that's getting through it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's really excellent. And if I may say, it's
Speaker 1: kind of well, I'll let you you pitch it, but
Speaker 1: then let me tell you what happened when I read it. Well,
Speaker 1: it's kind of it's a it's an autobiography, but it's
Speaker 1: also my sort of love letter to to stand up comedy,
Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of about what I think about life.
Speaker 1: So I wanted it to sort of feel like meeting me,
Speaker 1: like being a friend of mine, and that's it kind
Speaker 1: of to give an impression of what I'm like as
Speaker 1: a friend. So it's it's kind of it's a bit
Speaker 1: self healthy as well as being an autobography, so it's
Speaker 1: it's meant to be like half about you and half
Speaker 1: about me. That was it. That's the pity. And what
Speaker 1: I thought is there's a lot of like it seems
Speaker 1: like your philosophy of life is you should all have
Speaker 1: a good life. That sort of seems to be what
Speaker 1: you're saying is like there's no reason you can't be
Speaker 1: having a good life, and it's all quite practical, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff. I really like the stuff
Speaker 1: you were saying about, you know, therapy and your parents
Speaker 1: and at some point you have to forgive reality and
Speaker 1: your life is your own and all that stuff. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of that going on. And then there's a
Speaker 1: very short it's like half a page on the if
Speaker 1: I may talk about this very briefly, I there's a
Speaker 1: very short half page on the death of your mother
Speaker 1: that's so fucking beautiful that it made me cry. And
Speaker 1: it's like it's such a it's such a like I guess, realistic,
Speaker 1: but also very emotional and very it's a really beautiful
Speaker 1: piece in the middle of books that that's kind of
Speaker 1: where the book came from, because the book came out
Speaker 1: of there was a an NHS kind of book which
Speaker 1: we did in the lockdown, which was to raise money
Speaker 1: for the National Health Service, some sort of charitable thing.
Speaker 1: We all sort wrote essays about our experiences with the NHS,
Speaker 1: and as a result of kind of writing that essay,
Speaker 1: I got the book offer. So it sort of started
Speaker 1: with that thing of like remembering that and talking about it,
Speaker 1: and then you know kind of actually, you know, thinking
Speaker 1: back on you know, it's an interesting thing. People don't
Speaker 1: talk about grief an awful lot, and they don't write
Speaker 1: about it a lot. So I think when you do
Speaker 1: talk about it, it it kind of I've had a lot
Speaker 1: of nice comments, but I think if you write about
Speaker 1: it in any way, it's it's naturally very emotive because
Speaker 1: of course you you project yourself onto it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's interesting and it's you know, we've met a few times,
Speaker 1: and for the record, I would say this publicly. I
Speaker 1: did a audition for a ten cats a long time ago,
Speaker 1: years ago, and I did a round with you with
Speaker 1: you in it, and you were so lovely and so
Speaker 1: like helpful to the people that weren't like shouting stuff out.
Speaker 1: You were like, hey, I remember you going like, Brett,
Speaker 1: what about you? What do you think? Said the thing
Speaker 1: for about five minutes, and I'm everything, that's very nice
Speaker 1: that you were keeping in our own things. I'm a
Speaker 1: consummate host me. Yeah, very very good. But one of
Speaker 1: the times we met you, you said to me you
Speaker 1: were suggesting things I should be doing podcasts and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, as in to be a guest done. And
Speaker 1: you were like, because you talk about confessional stuff you
Speaker 1: talk about your life, and you said, I don't really
Speaker 1: do that. I don't like doing any sort of emotional stuff,
Speaker 1: and I thought it's very interesting because it feels like
Speaker 1: now that's not true. I think, yeah, I think there's
Speaker 1: been a bit of a shift. I think I sort
Speaker 1: of feel like i've I've done maybe twenty years in
Speaker 1: comedy and not really given much away, and I kind
Speaker 1: of feel like it's appropriate now. I became a father
Speaker 1: about two years ago, and exactly two years ago, thank
Speaker 1: you very much. And then I feel like I've I've
Speaker 1: kind of unlike in my late forties. Now I feel
Speaker 1: like I can share. I've got like a little bit
Speaker 1: of wisdom to share and it doesn't seem inappropriate. I
Speaker 1: think sometimes I was a bit weird for a comic.
Speaker 1: I think I was a bit it's away thing. People
Speaker 1: are very nuanced. I'm incredibly confident in lots of ways.
Speaker 1: And also I was a little bit shy and embarrassed
Speaker 1: about talking about myself. I didn't want to talk about
Speaker 1: always from my life because I thought they'd be boring.
Speaker 1: So there's something about my style of comedy that if
Speaker 1: you're kind of paging doctor Freud, it's like, yeah, tell
Speaker 1: a joke three times a minute to avoid having to
Speaker 1: talk about anything serious. Yeah, all your comedy is saying,
Speaker 1: don't look at me, don't look at me, don't look
Speaker 1: at me while you're look at me. Yeah, so there
Speaker 1: is something now I'm writing new stuff. I'm just kind
Speaker 1: of writing a new show at the moment, just to
Speaker 1: switch up the tour with slightly longer kind of set
Speaker 1: pieces in it, like more routines rather than one liners,
Speaker 1: which I'm really enjoying, I must say, as someone who
Speaker 1: does routines in that one liners, isn't it great? So
Speaker 1: much less work? Yeah, it does seem it does seem
Speaker 1: to be. I mean I thought I was robbing a
Speaker 1: living before, but this is this is great now. I
Speaker 1: mean it's still my kind of my love language is
Speaker 1: one liners, so it's always going to be peppered with
Speaker 1: one liners. But to make kind of you know, to
Speaker 1: talk about being a father or to talk about something
Speaker 1: that's going to be you're going to do a sustained
Speaker 1: chat for sort of twelve minutes on stage with a
Speaker 1: lot of one liners in it. I think changing style
Speaker 1: so comedically as well, is a really interesting thing to
Speaker 1: do to kind of make it feel fresh. I think
Speaker 1: I'm confident I've got the best job in the world,
Speaker 1: you know, for me. But it's that thing where you go,
Speaker 1: how do you keep it fresh every year? How do
Speaker 1: you make it sort of new? And part of that
Speaker 1: was going outward and touring the world and doing forty
Speaker 1: different countries, and part of it's kind of going well,
Speaker 1: actually the mechanics of what you do, changing that up,
Speaker 1: but making sure that you're always kind of growing every
Speaker 1: days a school day. I love it, absolutely love it.
Speaker 1: When you think back when when you were saying I'm
Speaker 1: worried about talking about myself because I'm boring, Like, did
Speaker 1: you feel like you were hiding something or it was
Speaker 1: just like I'm not interesting so I have to do Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was kind of I'm not interesting. I
Speaker 1: think it was that partly, that thing of like going
Speaker 1: I'm you know, a middle class white boy from the suburbs.
Speaker 1: It's like, really have a lot to add. It feels
Speaker 1: like people that look like me have been in charge
Speaker 1: for ten thousand years. Did they really need to hear
Speaker 1: more of it? It's a bit of that. It's obviously
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly who you think I am either, and
Speaker 1: it transpires in the book. You know, it's kind of
Speaker 1: an Irish immigrant family, and it's it's always more interesting
Speaker 1: than you think. You know. I think probably people sort
Speaker 1: of assume I went to a private school and was
Speaker 1: you know, we got that kind of you know, I
Speaker 1: think people make assumptions and you're kind of at your
Speaker 1: peril to correct them because it's just more it's more
Speaker 1: of a hassle. Just just go with it interesting. It's
Speaker 1: two things. You've got to be aware of who you are,
Speaker 1: and you have to be aware of how you're perceived.
Speaker 1: They rarely match up exactly. But you also were, like
Speaker 1: judging by your book, although it's very clear at twenty five,
Speaker 1: at twenty five you quit your your good job to
Speaker 1: go and have this adventurous life, But it sounds like
Speaker 1: you were having an adventurous life before it. You was
Speaker 1: traveling to places and doing it seems like you were
Speaker 1: constantly going. No, I think it was it was a
Speaker 1: pretty boring life before pretty boring. I think I was
Speaker 1: like middle management and an oil company, which has only
Speaker 1: changed maybe the last maybe three four years. It's become
Speaker 1: the terrible thing to have done, like working for an
Speaker 1: oil companies, like in retrospect. I worked for the Nazis.
Speaker 1: It's like it was literally I mean, my job was
Speaker 1: just a strangle seabirds. That's what I did, right, That
Speaker 1: was my specialist. It needed being done. And we appreciate you.
Speaker 1: We appreciate yourself. Thank you, Jimmy Carter. I've forgotten to
Speaker 1: tell you something. Fuck, we're taking this. I've gotten to
Speaker 1: tell you, and I should have told you. I should
Speaker 1: have at least had your team tell you before this gone. Fuck.
Speaker 1: I just just say it. I feel like a dickhead
Speaker 1: not saying this up front. You've died, You're dead. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's tough. I'll be honest with you. I often get
Speaker 1: this feeling on planes. You know, I'm not a nervous flyer,
Speaker 1: but I often feel like on a plane you're kind
Speaker 1: of out of control, and if you stop from it,
Speaker 1: I think we are flying through the sky at six
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour. This is madness. And I often
Speaker 1: think it's a very good measure of your life to
Speaker 1: go all ended. Right now, I've had a hell of
Speaker 1: a ride. I'd feel pretty I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't feel it wouldn't be a terrible Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I missed that thing. It would be you know what,
Speaker 1: this is the chances of being alive infinitesimally small. So
Speaker 1: it's been great, Thanks very much. I've had a lovely time. Hey,
Speaker 1: you're welcome. You're absolutely welcome. I really like that. I
Speaker 1: think that's a huge sign of your of your life.
Speaker 1: If you think i'd die tomorrow, i'd be I had
Speaker 1: a good run. Yeah, it's lovely. Do you how did
Speaker 1: you die? By the way I would want to die.
Speaker 1: I mean I've planned my I've planned my suicide in
Speaker 1: some detail as as anyone. I mean, come on, of course.
Speaker 1: So my plan for suicide and hit me out on
Speaker 1: this is I fly to South Africa. It's quite a
Speaker 1: long flight. There's no jet lad because you're in the
Speaker 1: same time zone. It's great ten hours, it's enough time
Speaker 1: to really give life some thought. Are you sure you
Speaker 1: want to do this? If you decide on landing in
Speaker 1: Cape Town, you want to do this? Are you dry
Speaker 1: to Camps Bay? You get on one of the shark
Speaker 1: boats where they go out and they look at the
Speaker 1: great whites, lots of great whites there. You get on
Speaker 1: the back of the boat. You cover yourself in chum
Speaker 1: in the in the meat and the blood, and you
Speaker 1: you jump in the sea with the great whites and
Speaker 1: you get ripped apart. That's the way to go because
Speaker 1: if if you if you're going to kill yourself, you've
Speaker 1: got to be sure. You've got to be sure, you've
Speaker 1: got to go. Okay, So there's something so bad that
Speaker 1: this is a better option. Great, Yeah, and you've got
Speaker 1: the journey to really question it perfectly. It's a perfect
Speaker 1: suicide problem. My problem is suicide too easy, too easy
Speaker 1: for people. It should be a really painful, terrible thing.
Speaker 1: Famously too easy. Well, it's it's the Yeah. I talk
Speaker 1: about it a lot in the book. It's the It's
Speaker 1: a permanent solution to a temporary problem. It's a lack
Speaker 1: of perspective. And I think one of the great things
Speaker 1: that comedy gives people, one of the great powers of
Speaker 1: comedy is a bit of perspective. Yeah. Yeah, So a
Speaker 1: Shark Bay suicide is how I die. Also, what's good
Speaker 1: about that death is it's it's memorable. It sort of
Speaker 1: means it washes everything clean, literally literally. If Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: had died in that way, no one would mention those
Speaker 1: kids again. It would be forgot. Well, what you mean,
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson that died of the shark thing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just worry you'll be annoyed how little people are
Speaker 1: talking about your career and all your success if you
Speaker 1: die that way, that it will be in like years
Speaker 1: to come Shark Man, the dead shark guy. Yeah, sure, no,
Speaker 1: I'd be all right with it. I mean, legacy is
Speaker 1: not really for comedians. I don't think, well, that's interesting,
Speaker 1: good one, is it? Because comedy always dates and we're
Speaker 1: all fucked every five years. Yeah, comedy, comedy slightly rots,
Speaker 1: I think as opposed. But it's it's it's a moment thing.
Speaker 1: I think life is a moment thing. I think leaving
Speaker 1: a leaving a legacy I think is a vestige of
Speaker 1: our religious belief. It's wanting to live forever in the
Speaker 1: same way that sort of fame has replaced heaven in
Speaker 1: a secular world. It's like sort of, you know, we've
Speaker 1: still got those those sort of religious things, we still
Speaker 1: have those desires, they've just sort of supplanted onto different things.
Speaker 1: So the idea that we want legacy and we want
Speaker 1: to be remembered forever is we want to live forever.
Speaker 1: So what do you think happens when you die. I
Speaker 1: don't really believe in an afterlife. I believe in a
Speaker 1: next life, but I don't believe in an afterlife like
Speaker 1: a Buddhist thing that you just come back. No, like
Speaker 1: a like a like a literal. Like ten years ago,
Speaker 1: I was a different guy than the guy I am now.
Speaker 1: I'm now a father, I live here, I do this,
Speaker 1: I've written a book, you know, and then in another
Speaker 1: twenty years time, I'll be someone else. It'll change. I
Speaker 1: was someone different before I was twenty five working in
Speaker 1: a boring office job. I was an academic when I
Speaker 1: was in my early twenties. I was a comedian in
Speaker 1: my thirties. It's like it changes a little bit, and
Speaker 1: you at some stage I'll be God Willing, an elder
Speaker 1: statesman of comedy. It's like it changes. There are next lives.
Speaker 1: You know, you meet new people, you have new friends.
Speaker 1: You you know that you're like you're constantly meeting new people.
Speaker 1: You're in a new and vironment. It's like nurturing never ends.
Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a perception in our society
Speaker 1: that you're done when you're eighteen or twenty one or
Speaker 1: whatever it is, that you go right, and that's me,
Speaker 1: and I'm a solid state nown and I sort of think, well,
Speaker 1: we're verbs were you know, we're doing things and we
Speaker 1: can do better, and we change, and there's good phases
Speaker 1: of bad stages. There's there's hell and heaven right here.
Speaker 1: So at the end, it's the end. There's your next life,
Speaker 1: your next life, your next life, and then yeah, when
Speaker 1: you die, that's it. You're done. And I'm perfectly fine
Speaker 1: with that. I can I cannot imagine a world without me.
Speaker 1: None of us can. No one can. It's a terrible thought.
Speaker 1: But like no one ever gives any thought to what
Speaker 1: it was like the moment before their conception. All the
Speaker 1: thought is what happens afterwards. No one ever thinks, well,
Speaker 1: I don't remember what happened before, but somehow the universe
Speaker 1: was fine. I mean people often talk about the Big Bang,
Speaker 1: but I'm super interested in what happened thirty seconds before
Speaker 1: the Big Bang. Yes, that's more interesting to me. That
Speaker 1: end of things interesting. And ask you something else, Yeah,
Speaker 1: however you want to put I don't know how you
Speaker 1: think of it, but you're a you're an institution, You're
Speaker 1: you're very much someone who is on our TVs. And
Speaker 1: has been for many, many years and continues to be.
Speaker 1: You're kind of always there and this is a good thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is it's not for me to
Speaker 1: use the term legend, but I mean, I guess that's
Speaker 1: what we're getting to, right. Yeah, No, I've had I've
Speaker 1: had a good career. It's quite a rare space to
Speaker 1: to get and I think there's any few there's only
Speaker 1: a few people probably in in ten years that that
Speaker 1: occupy that space where like you're you're constantly in our
Speaker 1: living rooms and it's a good thing. And it isn't
Speaker 1: like like there's a weird bit before that I think
Speaker 1: with some people where people can become like overexposed, and
Speaker 1: I think I think you have to get over getting
Speaker 1: overexposed is like that weird phase where you get famous.
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember the Christmas that happened to me.
Speaker 1: I remember like doing loads of like clip shows and
Speaker 1: things and we'd recorded a bunch of them and then
Speaker 1: and then it transpired they'd all we're going to be
Speaker 1: on over one Christmas and it was just that was
Speaker 1: all over Channel four. You kind of went from being
Speaker 1: that guy from that thing to being oh, you're Jimmy
Speaker 1: Carr and you seem to me, but I really don't
Speaker 1: know you, so you tell me if this is true.
Speaker 1: You seem to be someone who enjoys being famous, who
Speaker 1: is comfortable, you know, who likes I think it's the
Speaker 1: natural state. I genuinely think that we're know I mean
Speaker 1: that seriously. I think we're tribal. We're tribal creatures. We're
Speaker 1: built to live in groups of sixty to eighty. That's
Speaker 1: what we're built for for the longest time. And the
Speaker 1: existence that we currently have, which is very much focused
Speaker 1: on the individual, not the tribe, is a much more
Speaker 1: recent kind of invention, and it's a it's it's it's happenstances.
Speaker 1: Because of our technology and our cultures and how cities
Speaker 1: have grown that we live with strangers. We're meant to
Speaker 1: live with people that we know. So being famous is
Speaker 1: like it's sort of half of living in a village
Speaker 1: because everyone knows you. It's like living in a lovely,
Speaker 1: friendly village, but you've got Alzheimer's because everyone knows you
Speaker 1: and you don't know them. That's great, What a great
Speaker 1: way of looking at it. Yeah, I do like being famous, though,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a job. I mean, people that moan
Speaker 1: about it can just I mean, how far can they
Speaker 1: fuck off? So, Jimmy Carr, you're wrong, my friend, you're wrong.
Speaker 1: There's a heaven. Oh well, that's tremendous. Yeah, and you've
Speaker 1: got in, believe or not, despite your disgusting attitude towards heaven,
Speaker 1: you did get in because that's what heaven's like. It's
Speaker 1: filled with your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing? Comedy? Right,
Speaker 1: it's wall to wall comedy. Great, there's a fuck. There's
Speaker 1: gigs going on everywhere. There's legendary performances being done by
Speaker 1: the real person redoing them. The seats are made of
Speaker 1: one liners. You love it there. But in this heaven,
Speaker 1: they won't talk about your life. They won't talk about
Speaker 1: your life through the medium of film, because that's what
Speaker 1: it's like there. That's the bit they miss out in
Speaker 1: the Bible. And the first thing they ask you is
Speaker 1: what's the first film you remember seeing? Jimmy Carr, you know, listen, long,
Speaker 1: long time listener, first time caller to the podcast. I
Speaker 1: have to say the first film I saw was Bamby.
Speaker 1: And I know that's annoying because we've been there before.
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess You've interviewed people around my age
Speaker 1: and they watch Bamby. But I've got a couple of
Speaker 1: early movie stories because Bamby was the first one, and
Speaker 1: that became my fear in childhood, became losing my mother.
Speaker 1: I think it had such a profound effect on me.
Speaker 1: And then actually the loss of my mother was a
Speaker 1: massive catalyst in my life, so it did become thematically.
Speaker 1: I feel like Bamby is a character I can absolutely
Speaker 1: relate to. Wow, that's fucking cute. But it was, you know,
Speaker 1: that's it's It's not for a lot of people. I
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a Disney movie. It's going
Speaker 1: to be something. And the size of the screen. I
Speaker 1: remember going there and it becoming kind of an apocryphal
Speaker 1: tale in the family. But I got to the cinema
Speaker 1: on when where are the buttons? Because TVs used to
Speaker 1: have buttons on the side for turning it on and
Speaker 1: off and stuff, and I was going, this is immense,
Speaker 1: but where are the buttons for this thing? Who's got
Speaker 1: the remote? Set it down? This was the days before
Speaker 1: remote actually remotes were on strings back then. I'm quite
Speaker 1: an old man. Oh wow, and you saw it with
Speaker 1: your mum, I think, yeah, with my mum, which was
Speaker 1: which yeah, I would say, not great, just kind of
Speaker 1: like checking she's there every two minutes. But then I
Speaker 1: went to see I was like, I think we used
Speaker 1: to go to a place in Ireland every summer for
Speaker 1: like six weeks every time. I went to a little
Speaker 1: town called killed Key, and I remember being taken to
Speaker 1: see Jaws when I was maybe four or five. I
Speaker 1: mean I was very very young and seeing Jaws and
Speaker 1: just being absolutely terrified, just like going, well, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be near any like we're going swimming every
Speaker 1: day up until that point, and then afterwards like an
Speaker 1: absolute line in the sand, going well, that's not happening.
Speaker 1: So fascinating that Bamby started you off, and that became
Speaker 1: a defining feature of your life. Fear of you, then
Speaker 1: your lead, your moment that starts you up on your journey,
Speaker 1: and then Jaws is how you end your life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's perfect, right, perfect, And then I remember being you
Speaker 1: get storytelling. Being being scared in the cinema is a
Speaker 1: huge kind of thing for me. I always liked horror
Speaker 1: movies and I remember sort of seeing things earlier. It's
Speaker 1: amazing the stuff that scares you when you're a kid.
Speaker 1: I remember then, like being quite young, getting taken to
Speaker 1: see Airplane when it came out, and they used to
Speaker 1: do and I've kind of forgotten about it till thinking
Speaker 1: about the podcast, and I was thinking, I remember going
Speaker 1: to see Airplane and there was a movie at the start,
Speaker 1: like with the short movie. I mean, kids won't be
Speaker 1: able to remember this, but they used to be a
Speaker 1: short movie before the main feature, and it was like
Speaker 1: a comedy movie about a werewolf. And I remember being
Speaker 1: absolutely fucking terrifying, because somehow you've forgot the jokes. By
Speaker 1: the time you got home, you've forgotten the jokes. You
Speaker 1: just remember the creepy, the creepy well wolf bit. That's great.
Speaker 1: Have you ever found that short again? I don't. I know,
Speaker 1: I never never said it again. I mean, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it has not stood up. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: it wouldn't terrify me now, But it's kind of It's
Speaker 1: weird those things that kind of stay with you and
Speaker 1: your kid, like a little bit of imagery from a
Speaker 1: film or you know, something kind of special. It's I mean,
Speaker 1: they've always been my sort of happy place films. I
Speaker 1: really associated with going everything being okay at the cinema,
Speaker 1: and I associated it when I started doing comedy, I
Speaker 1: associated with freedom. I used to do a thing when
Speaker 1: I was working for Shell Oil where I would put
Speaker 1: in a meeting on a Friday. I'd put in a
Speaker 1: meeting at eleven AM, maybe eleven thirty, and then I
Speaker 1: put in a meeting at too so in my diary
Speaker 1: that everyone could see. And then I would go to
Speaker 1: Leicester Square. I walked to Lester Square from the Strand,
Speaker 1: and then I would go and see a movie where
Speaker 1: like whatever was coming out that week, I go and
Speaker 1: see a movie and be covered for that time, and
Speaker 1: it was I had a meeting there and a meeting there. Great,
Speaker 1: it's perfect. And then and then when I started doing comedy,
Speaker 1: I remember like, obviously I would I'd like had a
Speaker 1: reputation for being a hard working comedian, but it's like
Speaker 1: being the best looking guy in the burns board. No
Speaker 1: one's doing anything. So I would go to a movie
Speaker 1: every every Friday. I remember going sort of in the
Speaker 1: afternoon on a Friday, and just that thing of the
Speaker 1: movies in the afternoon. It's like heaven for me. Walking
Speaker 1: out the sun hitting your eyes and just you've seen
Speaker 1: something and it's your kind of I love it and
Speaker 1: I like going on my own me too. It's the
Speaker 1: best way tell me you're also you also write things.
Speaker 1: Have you written films? You wanted to make films? I've
Speaker 1: written a couple of things, but I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: it really reminds me of that. There's a famous Peter
Speaker 1: Cook line. So Peter Cook's had a cocktail party in
Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties and easy drinking, and you know, goes
Speaker 1: up to someone says what you're up to and they say,
Speaker 1: I'm writing a novel and he says, neither am I?
Speaker 1: I feel movie scripts or a bit neither am I.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, sure, I'm writing a film. Great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I've been to Hollywood and you could die of encouragement.
Speaker 1: You're really good. What's about so you like it being scared?
Speaker 1: What's the film that scared you the most? What depends
Speaker 1: which there's there's different levels of fear, aren't there. I
Speaker 1: think The Exorcist three is as scary as a horror
Speaker 1: movie as you're ever going to get. The Exorcist obviously
Speaker 1: a classic. The Exorcist too is some dogshit terrible. The
Speaker 1: Exorcist three is a brilliant movie. It's got a couple
Speaker 1: of brilliant sequences in it. I love horror movies generally,
Speaker 1: and it's it's great. I absolutely loved it. What do
Speaker 1: you make of the comedy horror thing parallel? Is it
Speaker 1: the same thing in terms of the reaction you're trying
Speaker 1: to get timing and everything from an audience. I think it.
Speaker 1: I think it probably has and there's certainly a lot
Speaker 1: of parallels. I think anything where you're you're getting strong
Speaker 1: emotion out of someone where they don't really have a choice,
Speaker 1: do you know, comedy comedy? For me, I always thought
Speaker 1: like your sense of human is a bit like your
Speaker 1: sexuality or your choice in food, how spicy you like it,
Speaker 1: It is not really up to you. It's kind of
Speaker 1: it's like that, come, that's your settings, so you go.
Speaker 1: I like spicy food and kinky sex and edgy comedy
Speaker 1: is like, okay, that's and some people like the mild stuff.
Speaker 1: Some people like just just some pasta with butter for me,
Speaker 1: and and the you know, in some observational comedy. Thanks
Speaker 1: very much. That's really interesting. Yeah, well no, that thing
Speaker 1: of like what frightens you as well, what gets you
Speaker 1: like it changes different stages of my life. I've been
Speaker 1: scared by different things. Probably I think probably in my
Speaker 1: teenage years, probably I don't know, eighteen nineteen or ever.
Speaker 1: I remember watching Shower and being sort of terrified because
Speaker 1: you sort of go like the first time you get
Speaker 1: exposed to that and go like it's it's suddenly not statistic.
Speaker 1: You go, oh, this can fucking happen. That's terrifying because
Speaker 1: that's the world that we live in. I remember my
Speaker 1: own particular thing when I was growing up being the
Speaker 1: threat of kind of the four minute warning or three
Speaker 1: minute warning, the four minute warning of like, oh they're
Speaker 1: going to drop the bomb. That was for my generation.
Speaker 1: That was our kind of all right, that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: So something like when the wind blows was really kind
Speaker 1: of really frighten up. There was another one that was
Speaker 1: there was more TV shows than films that kind of
Speaker 1: captured that, and we're just like straight up horrorfying threads.
Speaker 1: Did you ever see three? Yeah? Yeah, I mean what
Speaker 1: Matt Morgan made me, made me get it again recently
Speaker 1: got it on DVD. It's like it's yeah, it's fantastically scary.
Speaker 1: You know, the man who made Threads made one of
Speaker 1: my favorite films, La Story. Really imagine imagine that as
Speaker 1: a double bit. Wow, that's that's good. I like it
Speaker 1: when people are very eclectic in their movies. I like
Speaker 1: the guy my favorite is the guy that made Mad
Speaker 1: Max also made Happy Feet, and you go, I mean
Speaker 1: that's a fuck it. That's a CV and a heart,
Speaker 1: isn't it? Yeah? And babe and then Happy Feet too.
Speaker 1: He came back for more. I haven't finished that story.
Speaker 1: And now is the thing I think is interesting about
Speaker 1: horror and comedy. And weirdly, when you mentioned sexuality, I
Speaker 1: think it's true of sexy. I think sexy films, horror
Speaker 1: films and comedy films are generally underrated. They don't get
Speaker 1: like critical acclaims. I think it's because your dramas you
Speaker 1: don't require a critick. For comedy, I mean you never have,
Speaker 1: or a horror movie, it's a visceral response. It's binary.
Speaker 1: You either laugh or you don't. You're either scared or
Speaker 1: you're not. So it's it's it doesn't require you know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you go and see you know, a musical,
Speaker 1: let's say a critic can really add value. You know,
Speaker 1: it's really like, oh do I enjoy that? And then
Speaker 1: they say something and you go, oh, yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I had it recently on My missus is obsessed by musicals,
Speaker 1: so I go and see a lot of musicals, and
Speaker 1: I saw Bat out of Hell, the musical challenging for
Speaker 1: me because not anyway saw this thing. And then I
Speaker 1: read a review and it went, oh, well, basically, this
Speaker 1: is the this is the Peter Pan story. It's about
Speaker 1: children that won't grow up. But they said it in
Speaker 1: a teenage world, not a children's world. And immediately you go, oh, yes,
Speaker 1: this critic has added such value. I now understand what Okay,
Speaker 1: that makes more sense. Great, what a good story. But
Speaker 1: most of the time, like for comics, you don't need
Speaker 1: a fucking you know, someone that tells me I don't
Speaker 1: think that comics funny. You go, yeah, it's very opinion,
Speaker 1: I mean really opinion. Based on this. You either I
Speaker 1: hate critics for comedy like coming to the show, because
Speaker 1: you go, everyone else bought a fucking ticket. You've just
Speaker 1: rocked up and gone, this guy's a bit crude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're not laughing, what I do is hate speech.
Speaker 1: What's the film that made you cry the most? And
Speaker 1: are you at all a crier? You may be a
Speaker 1: big cryer for all later though, but yeah, I'll cry
Speaker 1: at a movie. I think the one that sprang to
Speaker 1: mind that I would recommend to everyone is Nobody's Full
Speaker 1: Paul Newman. Yeah, it's phenomenal. I love that film. It's
Speaker 1: gorgeous and it makes it made me sort of weep,
Speaker 1: And it's about I don't have a relationship with my father,
Speaker 1: but it's about fathers and sons, and it's about friendships
Speaker 1: and it's about a father figure, I think, and it's
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It's about kind of what it is to be.
Speaker 1: It's a great film about masculinity, and there's very few
Speaker 1: of those, I think knocking around the place. So that's
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. I'm something like Gallipoli will put me
Speaker 1: in a puddle, obviously, but I think that's who's not
Speaker 1: how fast you're going to run as fast as a rabbit.
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's just too much. Magnolia made me crying.
Speaker 1: Oh mate, Magnolia is like it's just it's so perfect.
Speaker 1: And the one latterly I had a thing, you know,
Speaker 1: like on a plane sometimes on a plane. I'll take
Speaker 1: a chance on something. I'll go, well, I'll watch Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll give that a go. And I watched a movie,
Speaker 1: a German film called Into the Fade. Did you see
Speaker 1: Into the Fade? It's Diane Krueger is in it. It's
Speaker 1: it's okay, it's I mean, if you haven't seen it
Speaker 1: and you want to take a punt, I would go.
Speaker 1: And it's phenomenal. But that just had me. Do you
Speaker 1: cry alone or are you? Are you okay crying in
Speaker 1: front of other people. I'm a pretty ugly crier, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm fine crying in front of other people. I would think,
Speaker 1: like if you if you feel it, feeling it tends
Speaker 1: to be very fleeting with me, like it's just like
Speaker 1: very sort of you know, a couple of snot bubbles,
Speaker 1: and you're gone and then I'm find out the other end.
Speaker 1: I do remember as a kid as well, like the
Speaker 1: first time you see a movie that's like properly heartbreaking
Speaker 1: and it being like you don't sort of know where
Speaker 1: to put that emotion, but it's a great way to
Speaker 1: sort of connect. I do it a lot through music now.
Speaker 1: I remember when I watched The Elephant Man for the
Speaker 1: first time, just kind of the end of that film
Speaker 1: where you just go, oh, it's just life is brutal.
Speaker 1: I mean, quite something, quite something, that is quite something,
Speaker 1: And you remember, I remember where I was when I
Speaker 1: saw it. I remember the top loading VCR, I remember
Speaker 1: the whole sort of experience of seeing it and just
Speaker 1: thinking this is just kind of otherworldly. I'd never really
Speaker 1: felt that emotion before. Yeah, what do you make of
Speaker 1: because you seem to be into all this stuff. I
Speaker 1: was talking to someone the other day about the thing
Speaker 1: of like, I love horror films, and I love films,
Speaker 1: but occasionally there are images in a film, like particularly
Speaker 1: a horror film or something that have been so horrific,
Speaker 1: you know, specifically to me, and maybe you wouldn't have
Speaker 1: thought the same, But like where it feels almost like PTSD,
Speaker 1: like I run it in a loop that image, and
Speaker 1: part of me guess I don't think I should have
Speaker 1: seen that, because my brain seems to react as if
Speaker 1: it happened rather than I'm just wetting a fit, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I always wonder if if
Speaker 1: they're your caveman brain or some part of you that's
Speaker 1: like being It's the same thing as it happening because
Speaker 1: you've seen it, Like, if it happened in front of
Speaker 1: me in real life, it would be horrific, But then
Speaker 1: I saw it in a film, and I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's ultimately what you know, I think, especially when you're
Speaker 1: a child, sort of with cinema, it mean you've got
Speaker 1: to be very careful because that's sort of where phobias
Speaker 1: are from phobias, you know, it's basically you've you've kind
Speaker 1: of recoded a memory as if it's your life is
Speaker 1: in danger. So a lot of people are scared of spiders,
Speaker 1: let's say, because they were small and they saw a
Speaker 1: spider on the floor and it moved weirdly, and they
Speaker 1: felt threatened by it, like, oh my god, that's gonna
Speaker 1: something bad's going to happen, because that's an important thing
Speaker 1: to out from a Darwinian evolutionary point of view, and
Speaker 1: then they've kind of recoded that. So often you see
Speaker 1: something when you're a kid, or see something sort of
Speaker 1: in a in a movie and you kind of, ah,
Speaker 1: that's a that terrible things going to hurt me, and
Speaker 1: you're kind of you know, you're you're protecting yourself. It's
Speaker 1: I mean, I think The thing about horror movies as
Speaker 1: well as those kind of the archetypes, the storytelling there,
Speaker 1: it's it's always similar themes. I think they're really good
Speaker 1: sort of thematically horror movies sometimes because they've got that
Speaker 1: that kind of the youngie and archetypes are there, so
Speaker 1: it's of course you get. I mean, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite movies is Cabin in the Woods. It's such a clever, clever,
Speaker 1: brilliant sort of summation of all those kind of slasher
Speaker 1: horror movies and why I love them so much. I
Speaker 1: thought it's a brilliantly written it's one of I think
Speaker 1: it's a I think it's a really seriously underrated movie.
Speaker 1: It's brilliant. Yeah, it's fucking great, it really is. Jimmy Carr,
Speaker 1: what is the film that you love that most people
Speaker 1: do not like? It is not critically acclaimed, but you
Speaker 1: love it. You don't care what any of these fools
Speaker 1: say to you. I would go. Rom Coms are the
Speaker 1: critical a sort of the area that I go. They
Speaker 1: don't get any critical love. They are the greatest films.
Speaker 1: They're enjoyable time and time again. It's like Four Weddings
Speaker 1: is perfect. I won't have a word said against it.
Speaker 1: It's just a perfect movie. It's funny, it's light, you
Speaker 1: could watch as many times as you want. It's kind
Speaker 1: of two hours in good company. It's just lovely and
Speaker 1: everything's sort of all right in that world other than
Speaker 1: the funeral. But they did warn you about that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they did warn you a yet, in fairness, they did
Speaker 1: tell us. That's a really good answer. Hasn't come up,
Speaker 1: really four weddings for a very very long time. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe people do. Maybe it is critically. I mean,
Speaker 1: the other one that I really like is things like
Speaker 1: Mean Machine. I like movies like I like. But Reynolds
Speaker 1: in a Prison. I watched it again recently and thought,
Speaker 1: oh god, this has stood up so fantastically. I loved it.
Speaker 1: I trying to copy his haircut. He was great, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got it, Reynolds. It's really stood up. What is
Speaker 1: the film that you used to love? You loved it.
Speaker 1: This is kind of the opposite. But you've watched it
Speaker 1: again recently and you've thought, oh, no, I don't like
Speaker 1: this anymore. But that can be for whatever reason that
Speaker 1: might be to you. A birth of a nation or
Speaker 1: triumph of the will. Those are my answers. Let's just
Speaker 1: move on really saying them more understood, and let me
Speaker 1: just hope that the way your opinion has changed in
Speaker 1: the right direction. Imagine though, imagine if someone did just go, yeah,
Speaker 1: Birth of a Nation. Yeah, I don't know. The last
Speaker 1: couple of years, I really feel like it's lost something,
Speaker 1: um don't. I think I think probably the special effects movies,
Speaker 1: the amazing special effects movies that were basically it was
Speaker 1: all on the special effects, and then you watch it
Speaker 1: again and you go, oh my god, I can't. I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, Jurassic Park, Oh my god, they've invented dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: This is incredible. And then you watch again and go, ah,
Speaker 1: is it kids TV? What's this? And it's kind of
Speaker 1: like that thing of I remember as a child seeing
Speaker 1: Clash of the Titans and looking at those kind of
Speaker 1: effects and going, well, they're kind of dog shit but interesting,
Speaker 1: you know, the Clash of the Titans thing, like the
Speaker 1: stop motion animation. It's like that. I love Clash at
Speaker 1: the time. I loved those movies when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: Flash of the Titans I thought was brilliant, And it's
Speaker 1: kind of a forgotten It's not really like when I
Speaker 1: was a kid that was as big as Star Wars
Speaker 1: in my world, in my kind of mind, it was huge.
Speaker 1: And then they just disappeared entirely, and the Medusa with
Speaker 1: the snakes for their head. It's great imagery. I loved
Speaker 1: it and kind of really brought that Greek mythology to life.
Speaker 1: But that, yeah, effects movies ten years later never stand up. Well,
Speaker 1: that's fair, that's fair. Jimmy car what's the film that
Speaker 1: means the most to you? Not necessarily the film itself
Speaker 1: is any good, but because the experience you had around
Speaker 1: seeing the film, that will always make it special to you. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: we're going to come right back to Bambi in this
Speaker 1: on the I think the day after my mother died,
Speaker 1: we just didn't know what to do. We just like this,
Speaker 1: I got two brothers, and we just kind of were
Speaker 1: sort of a bit broken. There's a real physical aspect
Speaker 1: of grief that people don't really talk about. But when
Speaker 1: when you when you're breathed, it sort of hits you
Speaker 1: and you're just a bit like, I don't know, you
Speaker 1: kind of exhausted. And so of the next day we
Speaker 1: we sort of should we just go and see a film,
Speaker 1: and we went to see Moulin Rouge and it was
Speaker 1: I cried, I think from start to finish the whole
Speaker 1: thing with my My brother was fourteen, and you know,
Speaker 1: he was like he came, you know, he sort of
Speaker 1: sat there and we loved that kind of music. And
Speaker 1: I love that. I haven't been able to watch it
Speaker 1: since I've it just like I was properly in a
Speaker 1: puddle in the darkness of the cinema and just able
Speaker 1: to grieve. And I always amazing, how how old were you?
Speaker 1: I was maybe twenty five? Okay, oh man, that's a yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a really cley story. What is the film that
Speaker 1: you most relate to, Jimmy car I mean I remember
Speaker 1: sort of thinking something like The Rachel Papers when I
Speaker 1: was a kid. I remember thinking, well, that's my life,
Speaker 1: trying to get into college. And but it kind of
Speaker 1: it moves you know, you kind of you you you
Speaker 1: kind of you outgrow it a little bit. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of late nineties Hero's Journey cinema,
Speaker 1: so things like Fight Club and Train Spotting. Beautiful Girls.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a movie. Did you ever see
Speaker 1: Beautiful Girls? Love Beautiful Girl? I watch Beautiful Girls once,
Speaker 1: a year. I watch every Christmas. I just think it's
Speaker 1: it's incredible soundtrack, and it's about that melancholy of going
Speaker 1: home and your home doesn't exist anymore. And I kind
Speaker 1: of had that experience, and it's it's it's kind of brutal,
Speaker 1: but you can't. I just she kind of yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that that kind of thing of life. It's it's interesting
Speaker 1: the movies when I was thinking about the podcast before,
Speaker 1: the movies that sort of mean most to me are
Speaker 1: the ones just before I found my purpose in life,
Speaker 1: just before I found what I wanted to do. And
Speaker 1: you're kind of looking for signals through these stories. You're
Speaker 1: looking for, to quote another film, you're looking for a
Speaker 1: lifeless ordinary. Wow, you're very good at this, Jimmy, right away,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just naming films. I like, it
Speaker 1: feels very easy to any points say fair, what is here?
Speaker 1: We go? It's the way everyone's been waiting for. What's
Speaker 1: the sexiest film you've ever seen? Jimmy, come guzzling slots four.
Speaker 1: That is a classic. I mean, if you haven't seen
Speaker 1: the first three, though it's meaningless, you won't follow any
Speaker 1: of it. I know, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's genuinely a tough question on like,
Speaker 1: what's the I've got a story about sexy inappropriate sexy
Speaker 1: movies though, if you would like to hear, that's why
Speaker 1: we're here. It is a piece of stand up that
Speaker 1: I'm doing. But it's also a true story. My mother
Speaker 1: sort of sort of brought us up on her own.
Speaker 1: Didn't but sort of did. And she would take us
Speaker 1: out to the cinema quite a lot. And I was
Speaker 1: about thirteen or fourteen, and I saw nine and a
Speaker 1: half weeks with my mum, and obviously she's an intelligent woman.
Speaker 1: She realized the mistake that she had made one week
Speaker 1: in immediately, Yeah, one week into the nine and a
Speaker 1: half she was this is this is not great? No,
Speaker 1: sole realize almost immediately, but kind of went, well, we're
Speaker 1: here now, and what we're going to leave and do what?
Speaker 1: And I guess we'll stay. And you know, kind of
Speaker 1: watching sex on TV with mom and dad is weird.
Speaker 1: Watching in the cinema, it's kind of weirder. Again, it's
Speaker 1: a yeah, so sat through that. I mean the showcase,
Speaker 1: she said to me during during one of the sex scenes,
Speaker 1: quite a visceral sex scene. She went, they'll sleep tonight,
Speaker 1: which is just such a great line. But yeah, I suppose,
Speaker 1: I suppose there was a thing of like the you know,
Speaker 1: for people listening to this in the UK, there was
Speaker 1: a thing in like Channel four would put sort of
Speaker 1: sexy movies on sort of semi pornographic films sort of
Speaker 1: on a on a sort of Thursday night quite late,
Speaker 1: which was quite an exciting thing that had a red triangle.
Speaker 1: It was going to be honest, to be pretty decent.
Speaker 1: There was a whole subset of movies as well that
Speaker 1: have had like a bit of boob in them. That
Speaker 1: was always a thing, a bit of boobs. Things like Porkis,
Speaker 1: which until very recently I think it was the most
Speaker 1: successful Canadian movie of all time because it had like
Speaker 1: a little bit of kind of it was kind of
Speaker 1: that weirdly that sort of grease era Americana sort of
Speaker 1: thing and had a little bit of kind of a
Speaker 1: little bit of sex in it that felt like a
Speaker 1: very sort of that felt like a very sexy movie
Speaker 1: when I was sort of twelve thirteen, when those things
Speaker 1: before really the infact, I mean, you gotta remember, we
Speaker 1: lived in a world pre internet pornography. We were so
Speaker 1: starved of porm or something you had to find in
Speaker 1: the woods. Yeah, yeah, and it was Padstown through generations.
Speaker 1: So is your answer to traveling bonus worrying Whydnes nine
Speaker 1: and a half weeks with your mum? I mean that's
Speaker 1: the that's the that would be the one. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's You're not going to get better than that in
Speaker 1: terms of going this is weird watching something a bit
Speaker 1: sexy with your mom. You know, it's that's pretty impressive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's impressive in the cinema as well. Okay, Jimmy Carr objectively,
Speaker 1: objectively might not be your favorite, but objectively, what is
Speaker 1: the greatest film of all time? I think the greatest
Speaker 1: film of all time has to be your favorite because
Speaker 1: I think we can all quote something very you know,
Speaker 1: French and meaningful, but true Romance for me is the
Speaker 1: greatest film of all time by some margin. I watch
Speaker 1: it all the time. I can't get enough of it.
Speaker 1: I find the music to be that's enough for me.
Speaker 1: If it was just the opening sequence with the bad
Speaker 1: Lands music, it's the music from another great film, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's the same sort of what do you
Speaker 1: call it a xylophone kind of effect as they're use
Speaker 1: in bad Lands, which is the great Terrence Malick movie.
Speaker 1: It's a Quentin Tarantino script, so you know it's going
Speaker 1: to be good. It's Tony Scott directing everyone in. It
Speaker 1: is fucking brilliant. It's got the best scenes. I know
Speaker 1: that sounds sort of redundant, like, of course movies are
Speaker 1: made of scenes, but there's such great set pieces. That
Speaker 1: Christopher Hawkin Dennis Hopper bit is maybe the greatest scene
Speaker 1: in cinema. It's as good as it's ever going to get.
Speaker 1: And then and then the the the James Ganolfini and uh,
Speaker 1: you know is just it's a heartbreaker. I mean, the
Speaker 1: whole thing is just start to finish. Brilliant, great soundtrack,
Speaker 1: brilliant dialogue, incredible story, you know, the the the whole
Speaker 1: thing as well, and it's it's the kind of that
Speaker 1: hero's journey of the whole thing just works for me.
Speaker 1: I love it. You know, you must know if you're
Speaker 1: that obsessive, but I like this about it. That in
Speaker 1: do you notice that in the original script, of course
Speaker 1: Clarence he died, Yeah, and that Tony Scott was like
Speaker 1: I just love them too much. I don't want it
Speaker 1: to happen. And I really like that. I like that.
Speaker 1: He was like, I get it, I get that that's
Speaker 1: your vision, but I really liked it. I don't want
Speaker 1: them to die. And they're like, yeah, it's nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's something that there is something nice about the the ending,
Speaker 1: and I think it's I always think cinemas whatever, however
Speaker 1: you want to interpret it. That's like, that's what you
Speaker 1: got from it, then great. And if you go, well,
Speaker 1: I think that's just a dream sequence and he's not
Speaker 1: really there. I mean, the whole the movie would be
Speaker 1: my favorite movie just for the Elvis only appearing in
Speaker 1: the toilet. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, great answer. Not been
Speaker 1: put in that category before. I'm going to give you
Speaker 1: ten points. Val Kilmer playing Elvis and you don't even
Speaker 1: see his face just phenomenal. Five stars, five stars, ten points.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carr, what's the film that you could have watched
Speaker 1: the most over and over again. It's been a few
Speaker 1: you've said here that you watch every year. There's a
Speaker 1: there's a couple, there's like there's a couple on rotation.
Speaker 1: There's true amounts, there's beautiful girls fight Club. I watch
Speaker 1: an awful lot. I think it's just fantastic. Train Spotting
Speaker 1: I watch maybe once a year. I just I love it.
Speaker 1: I love the performances, I love the language. I love that.
Speaker 1: It's just fantastic. This is a there's actually a question
Speaker 1: that I have in the Resurrection episodes. But I'm worried
Speaker 1: I'll never get to speak to you again, so I
Speaker 1: want to ask you this question. I don't normally do
Speaker 1: this in this one. If you could make one film
Speaker 1: that already exists that you think realistically the saw a
Speaker 1: film that could come out of your brain if you
Speaker 1: had all the skills, all the money, with everything. What's
Speaker 1: the film that you wish you'd made that you feel like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good representation of this sort of thing I'd
Speaker 1: love to do. I mean no, because you just you
Speaker 1: just sort of flattery yourself and go, well, I do
Speaker 1: I do a work of a heartbreaking work of staggering genius.
Speaker 1: Would you um? It's Birth of a Day, said Leslie
Speaker 1: on The Buses, which which outgross James Bond the year
Speaker 1: it came out. It's a classic. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the kind of I don't know
Speaker 1: the kind of cinema that I really like. I mean,
Speaker 1: I really like documentaries. This is the other thing that
Speaker 1: I'm slightly obsessive about. I watched documentaries pretty much all
Speaker 1: the time, and I'm a huge fan of Adam Curtis,
Speaker 1: and I sometimes think they're kind of the polemic documentary
Speaker 1: is a is a wonderful, artful and it's a great
Speaker 1: sort of It's it's I think, where the most sort
Speaker 1: of learning happens. I think I tend to. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've kind of gone away from stories since becoming creative,
Speaker 1: so I think pre the age of twenty five twenty six,
Speaker 1: I read a lot of fiction. I felt like I
Speaker 1: needed stories more before I was doing something creative when
Speaker 1: I when I was, I was working to live, and
Speaker 1: now I live to work. I feel like I don't
Speaker 1: need stories in that sense as much. So. Cinema still
Speaker 1: means a lot to me, but it's not the same obsession.
Speaker 1: Like the idea that I'm talking to you now. The
Speaker 1: new Dune movie is out. It's been out for a
Speaker 1: week and I haven't seen it yet. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: going to see it, but I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1: There's a bit of me that's dying inside even telling
Speaker 1: you that there's a bit of me going you should
Speaker 1: have been there on Friday at the ten am showing
Speaker 1: to see it before anyone else. There's a there's a
Speaker 1: bit of me that it used to it mattered more one.
Speaker 1: That's kind of all I had. That's not really an
Speaker 1: answer to anything. That's just I'm treating this like a
Speaker 1: therapy session now. No, And I really appreciate that you are.
Speaker 1: Do you have a fantasy in your head? I assume
Speaker 1: your baby is too young yet, but in your head,
Speaker 1: is it like a nice fantasy to be taking your
Speaker 1: son to the cinema one day? Is that part of
Speaker 1: your Oh yeah, I hadn't really given that any thought,
Speaker 1: but yes, that will be a lovely thing. I think
Speaker 1: it's that thing though, where you've got to get you
Speaker 1: get over excited. Dads get over excited and go, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you've got to see Star Wars. He's three, and they
Speaker 1: go no, they're not gonna understand any of this or
Speaker 1: get any of it. So it's having to wait like
Speaker 1: another another two years before he can watch that, and
Speaker 1: he can see Bambi as well when he's in his forties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really respect that you'll be like you're watching Taxi
Speaker 1: Driver before you're watching Bambi. All right, yeah you're five,
Speaker 1: that's it out, Yeah, what's we don't like to be negative, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: maybe you do. I don't know, But what's the worst
Speaker 1: film you've ever seen? I've only walked down the cinemat
Speaker 1: like a handful of times, and I think I took
Speaker 1: a chance on I mean, it's actually I think, as
Speaker 1: most stand up comics will know, the cinema is often
Speaker 1: it's a very exciting thing where you go and see
Speaker 1: a fantastic piece of creative work. Sometimes though it's a
Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon and you're in Birmingham and you've got to
Speaker 1: kill it. You've got to kill this afternoon. Somehow you're
Speaker 1: you know, you're on your You're on your third whank.
Speaker 1: By two in the afternoon, you go, I've got I'm
Speaker 1: going to go blind if I don't leave this so
Speaker 1: or there staying in the abyss. I think I saw
Speaker 1: I saw a Transformers movie in the cinema and I
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes and I just want, well, this isn't
Speaker 1: this isn't anything, This isn't anything. So I'm I guess
Speaker 1: I'm anti trans is what I'm saying. This is the
Speaker 1: exclusive and the pool quote, and I appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 1: You're in comedy. I think we can all agree that
Speaker 1: that's a fact. What's the film that made you laugh
Speaker 1: the most? I think it is I don't know whether
Speaker 1: I consider it to be the greatest comedy Team America.
Speaker 1: World Place has made me laugh more than any other film.
Speaker 1: It's so when the guy passes, you may need this.
Speaker 1: You think it's going to be Sinai pills. And it's
Speaker 1: a hammer with blood and and and hair on it.
Speaker 1: And every bit of the movie is funny. The concept
Speaker 1: of the movie is funny. The songs are funny. I
Speaker 1: mean they always do a musical kind of by the
Speaker 1: back door. You know, you're not quite sure it's a musical,
Speaker 1: and then it is. I'm so lonely, so funny. The
Speaker 1: fact that it's done with puppets, Yeah, it's so fucking ludicrous.
Speaker 1: If you pitched it to anyone, they just go, well,
Speaker 1: you're out of your fucking mind. And yet they did
Speaker 1: it and committed to it, and it's just fantastic. We're
Speaker 1: going to need an actor, right, everybody's got aids. I mean,
Speaker 1: everything about it is just it's so funny. I didn't
Speaker 1: even get that that was a rent joke at the time.
Speaker 1: I then had to go and see a saw rent
Speaker 1: a one. It's such a great pastage. Oh I wouldn't
Speaker 1: Actually one other little thing if I may, which is
Speaker 1: in your book. You said something which I really liked,
Speaker 1: which was about being nervous before gigs, and you said,
Speaker 1: comedians pretend they're not, but they are and you are.
Speaker 1: Is that true. I think there's a recoding of nerves
Speaker 1: as excitement. I'm really looking forward to this one. Like
Speaker 1: I convinced myself, I'm not nervous before a gig, but
Speaker 1: I don't eat for two hours before it either, so
Speaker 1: just because you know otherwise you'd be feeling kind of
Speaker 1: a bit queasy. I think it's like that thing where
Speaker 1: everything becomes a bit normalized, you know, if you do
Speaker 1: something enough, you kind of go on there. You're sort
Speaker 1: of used to it now, but they're still especially trying
Speaker 1: new stuff. I get quite nervous. I'm so glad to
Speaker 1: hear it. But don't you think that that adrenaline is
Speaker 1: you need it? Like if you didn't. I'm always shocked
Speaker 1: when I meet people to say, I don't get nervous anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm like, then, how are you doing this job? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because because the super brain or whatever it is, kicks
Speaker 1: in with the slight adrenaline. Yeah. It's it's interesting how
Speaker 1: you're in a heightened state, like a flow state when
Speaker 1: you're on stage. And I think sometimes, like certainly with
Speaker 1: heckles and things, I think sometimes I've often done a
Speaker 1: heckle put down where I've not quite got the joke
Speaker 1: that I've told. Like you occasionally have this thing where
Speaker 1: you come back with something and go, oh that was good,
Speaker 1: and it was like slightly a muscle memory thing, slightly
Speaker 1: a you get caught up in it, but your your
Speaker 1: mind's kind of moving at at a different speed when
Speaker 1: you're in that kind of fight or flight mode. I
Speaker 1: love that. I cannot thank you enough. This has been
Speaker 1: a delight. However, Ah, when you decided you you had
Speaker 1: an inkling that you wanted to kill yourself yet a
Speaker 1: little inkling, but you were like, I need to be sure,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to take a little journey. And so
Speaker 1: you booked a flight to South Africa, and along the plane,
Speaker 1: you considered how great your life had been. You considered
Speaker 1: your family, your your wife, your son, and you still thought,
Speaker 1: now I'm done. And you thought I had one more thing.
Speaker 1: You went to Camp Spray Spay Camp Spay and got
Speaker 1: on the boat. You went out on a boat to
Speaker 1: where the great white sharks were and you thought, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm still committing to this. I'm still committing to this.
Speaker 1: And the guy, the guide said, oh, so you want
Speaker 1: to feed the sharks, and he handed you chump a
Speaker 1: load of meat and stuff and you grabbed it and
Speaker 1: you slabbed it with over you haave. And the guy went,
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you doing? And you said shi
Speaker 1: And he went, no, seriously, I've got like I get
Speaker 1: in trouble if something happens to the guests. And you said,
Speaker 1: I don't care about you and your pathetic little life.
Speaker 1: And you jumped off the boat. And you got eaten
Speaker 1: viciously by all the sharks that you've been scared of.
Speaker 1: When you it's hard for them to eat you any
Speaker 1: other way than viciously. It was really bad. But the
Speaker 1: thing was as well, this guy's life was ruined. I mean,
Speaker 1: you were very you were quite thoughtless in that. This
Speaker 1: guy's in trouble. Now he gets fired, he's getting sued.
Speaker 1: There's this whole fallout from this thing. The person that
Speaker 1: filmed it, that was also on the boat. They make
Speaker 1: a load of money out of it, and they don't
Speaker 1: even use it to help their friend. The guy may
Speaker 1: even go to prison for this, but you don't care.
Speaker 1: I've just been eating. I've just been eating by sharp.
Speaker 1: I have a boat story in South Africa. If you
Speaker 1: want to hear it, I'm more than willing to tell you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course we do. Then we'll get back to you
Speaker 1: or for this. Okay. So I'm in Cape Town. This
Speaker 1: has got to be eight years ago now whatever. I'm
Speaker 1: on tour down there, doing a couple of shows. Cape
Speaker 1: down and Joe Burg. I'm there with my other half's there,
Speaker 1: Caroline is there, and we're staying in the night the
Speaker 1: one and only hotel on the Bay in Cape Town.
Speaker 1: And Caroline goes, well, we've got to go and see
Speaker 1: Robin Island, where you know the great man Mandela was interned.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, of course we've got to go. So
Speaker 1: she goes down to the bay thing and they go, oh,
Speaker 1: the ferry like that takes you over there, it's all
Speaker 1: sold out. And I went, we'll surely the hotel can
Speaker 1: sort us out, and they went, no, no, we're not
Speaker 1: connected to the ferry. We can't. But we could book
Speaker 1: you a private boat. And I went, okay, that sounds
Speaker 1: that sounds pretty good. And I went how much is that?
Speaker 1: And the guy sort of like a little bit flustered.
Speaker 1: Wherever it works out it's like four hundred pounds and
Speaker 1: you get picked up at ten in the morning and
Speaker 1: they take you out there and then bring you back
Speaker 1: at two o'clock. And I went, oh, that's okay, great,
Speaker 1: we'll do that tomorrow. So we come down in the
Speaker 1: morning in the hotel, we have our breakfast and there's
Speaker 1: a line of like six people dressed in sailing outfits
Speaker 1: in front of us, like little sailor boy. It's like
Speaker 1: they're in a little yakub with our hands behind their backs,
Speaker 1: like lined up. You go, that's good, right, I must
Speaker 1: be doing a thing. And then get the concierge desk
Speaker 1: and say, we booked a boat. Where do we meet them?
Speaker 1: And they went, oh, they're here, and they were oh right,
Speaker 1: and they went, where's the rest of your party? And
Speaker 1: we went, n it's just us, and they went, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: it's oh okay, yeah, I guess so, and then they
Speaker 1: walk us round to this thing and there is a
Speaker 1: there's a super yacht outside the hotel, like literally, I
Speaker 1: mean a super yacht and with a full catering on
Speaker 1: the back of it, and they and the captain is
Speaker 1: a guy that had won the America's Cup, and I went, listener,
Speaker 1: I don't know much about the exchange rate, but nothing
Speaker 1: about this says four hundred pounds. And the guy and
Speaker 1: the guy we kind of I got on and went,
Speaker 1: this doesn't seem to make any sense at all. We
Speaker 1: booked a boat to take us over there, and the
Speaker 1: guy said it was four hundred pounds, but this doesn't
Speaker 1: seem and we worked out what happened and he got
Speaker 1: the decimal point in the wrong place and it was
Speaker 1: four thousand pounds. And I was like, oh, mate, the
Speaker 1: thing is. It's just me and the missus and we
Speaker 1: just wanted to go over there for like and what
Speaker 1: is it like a ten minute drive? Like it's one
Speaker 1: of forty minutes or whatever. It's not far. And the
Speaker 1: guy like big gruff sailor from South Africa goes, oh,
Speaker 1: my friend, my friend, like super aggressive voice. He goes,
Speaker 1: my friend, these things happen. It's a misunderstanding. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. You have to enjoy your holiday. And I
Speaker 1: went right, and he went, don't worry, don't worry about anything.
Speaker 1: I kind of left. I kind of walked like ten
Speaker 1: steps with Caroline when he was really fucking nice about that,
Speaker 1: and went, I'll fuck it, let's do it. So me
Speaker 1: and Carolina got back on the boat and went, no, no,
Speaker 1: fuck it, will do it. I don't mind, fine, take it,
Speaker 1: don't matter whatever. In the most ludicrously opulent way you
Speaker 1: could ever go and see a prison where a man
Speaker 1: suffered for twenty five years, we went Caroline Caroline was
Speaker 1: like I was being teetotal at the time. Caroline down
Speaker 1: like two bottles of champagne on the way over there.
Speaker 1: And then when you get to Robin Island, like you're
Speaker 1: met by someone who used to be in turn there
Speaker 1: and they show you round. She was half cut. It
Speaker 1: was like, I guess we figured, well we might as
Speaker 1: well go, so Fairny, we'll be getting jet skis back.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, babe, did it was like yeah, it was?
Speaker 1: It was. It was. It was like getting a white
Speaker 1: limousine to Auschwitz. It was in very poor taste, but
Speaker 1: so fairny just walking around drunk and yeah, it looks awful,
Speaker 1: looks awful. We need to get back for the lobster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carr, is there anything you would like to tell
Speaker 1: people to look out for, to listen to or to
Speaker 1: watch of yours coming up? I've got a book out
Speaker 1: which I spent like a year writing, which is Yeah.
Speaker 1: As we said at the top of the show, it's
Speaker 1: kind of a love letter to comedy. It's kind of
Speaker 1: an autobography, but it's also about you, and it's a
Speaker 1: way of doing self help that isn't I kind of
Speaker 1: felt like self helps a bit low hanging fruit because
Speaker 1: although it's not a pastiche of self help, self help
Speaker 1: tends to be. It's quite po faced. It's quite serious,
Speaker 1: and I like things to be quite light and funny,
Speaker 1: So it strikes me that it's it's a it's good
Speaker 1: if you, if you, if you need a bit of
Speaker 1: self help, but you can't be Yeah, Eckart's toe can't
Speaker 1: write fucking dick jokes, Kenny. Yeah, it's really good. Whatever
Speaker 1: read of it the first third and they will continue
Speaker 1: reading it. It is excellent and I thoroughly recommend it
Speaker 1: and you're on tour. I guess you're sold out, are you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm on tour around the UK. I probably won't be
Speaker 1: doing international until next year, year after something like that,
Speaker 1: until the coronas all done. Jimmy Carr, thank you for
Speaker 1: your time, especially so late at night, and it's my
Speaker 1: actually pleasure. That's a really fun podcast to do. It's great, man,
Speaker 1: I'm delighted to have had you on. Oh we didn't
Speaker 1: fucking finish you monster? What I told you? Not story?
Speaker 1: What do you got to tell me? You get you
Speaker 1: were eating buy sharks right and you ruined this guys
Speaker 1: out and I come over. Yeah, I'm like hearing the
Speaker 1: screaming of the guy and I was like, what's happening.
Speaker 1: You're going, Oh, Jimmy Carr fucking killed himself and now
Speaker 1: my life's for it. And then I was like, oh shit, man,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Anyway, I gathered the bits of you
Speaker 1: that are left and there isn't much. I put it
Speaker 1: in the coffin, but there's also like we had to
Speaker 1: kill a couple of these sharks to get out your
Speaker 1: bones and ship as well, so it's a real murder
Speaker 1: suicide in the end. Stuffing bits of blubber and fucking
Speaker 1: all the stuff of you in this coffin. It's now
Speaker 1: absolutely jammed full in there. Right, there's only enough room
Speaker 1: in this coffin for me to slip a DVD, just
Speaker 1: a little TV in the side for you to take
Speaker 1: across to the other side. And on the other side,
Speaker 1: it's movie night every night. What film are you taking
Speaker 1: to show the people in heaven when it's your movie night?
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carr go, what I mean, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: say a romance? And I mean it would be crazy,
Speaker 1: not because you know what, because sometimes that's the way
Speaker 1: it goes, but you have to remember sometimes it goes
Speaker 1: the other way too. It's just it's just ended the
Speaker 1: podcast by blowing all our moves. Jimmy Carr, thank you,
Speaker 1: have a wonderful life. Good day. So that was episode
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy two. Head over to patreon dot
Speaker 1: com forward slash Brett Goldstein for the extra twenty minutes
Speaker 1: of extra chat, secrets and video with Jimmy. Go to
Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts give us a five star rating. Right about
Speaker 1: the film that means the most to you and why
Speaker 1: it's lovely to read helps numbers, blah blah blah, lah
Speaker 1: lah lah blah blah blah. Thank you so much to
Speaker 1: Jimmy for doing this show so late at night as well.
Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening to it. Thank you to
Speaker 1: Scrubius Pip and Distraction Pieces Network. Thanks to Buddy Peace
Speaker 1: for producing it. Thanks to ACAS for hosting it. Thanks
Speaker 1: to adding Riches him for the graphics at least a
Speaker 1: lad him for the photography. Come and join me next week. Oh,
Speaker 1: I got such a great guest next week. I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna tell you who it is. You will very
Speaker 1: much like it, so I hope everyone as well. That
Speaker 1: is it for now, but in the meantime, do have
Speaker 1: a lovely week and please be excellent to each other.