1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: We're making unforced errors and we shouldn't. We'll talk about that. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about what's going on with men globally. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: What's this blue slip stuff Trump is so angry about. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Katie Zacharia joins us. All that and more coming up 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: on them, right, all right, So in a few minutes, 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna interview Katie Zachariah, and I'll tell you right now, 7 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: she's pretty somber on how we're looking for the midterms 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: and potentially. 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty eight. 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: So whether or not that happens, we have to assume 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: we're approaching a time where we might lose power power 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: in Washington, DC. We know how evil the Communists are. 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: We remember it was an ancient history. We remember how 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: they operated under Joe Biden, arresting, murdering their political opponents. 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Everything had to be gay. 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: It was the worst friggin thing world And we know, 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, I know they'll do worse next time. They're 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: not sorry, they're not regretful. They think they didn't bring 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: in enough illegals last time. So that's what we're facing 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:12,919 Speaker 1: if the Communists come back to power. 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: So what I'm about to. 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: Say, I want you to know. That's that's where I'm 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: coming from when I say what I'm about to say. 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: We have to operate with a level of seriousness, am viciousness. 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: We have to be intelligent with how we're fighting right now. 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: We can't afford mistakes. It was a story yesterday. I'm 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: just gonna touch on it just for a minute. Vanity Fair. 28 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Vanity Fair, communist magazine. Vanity Fair puts out a nasty 29 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: hit piece on Susie Wiles' White House chief of staff. 30 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: It's not just a hit piece on Susie Wiles. They 31 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: stooped so low as to find the worst picture of 32 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt ever and published it. I mean, they just 33 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: did everybody dirty in the whole thing. Okay, they're communists, that's. 34 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: What they do. 35 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: Susie Wiles sat down with Vanity Fair for eleven straight days. 36 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: Eleven days. 37 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: We gave eleven days to Vanity Fair, giving them all 38 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: the ammunition they need to create a twenty four hour 39 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: news cycle, of course taking words out of context, and 40 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: of course they did. Of course they would lieing about everything. 41 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: This is unacceptable. We don't have time for this. The 42 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: urgency needs to be there. We don't have time for 43 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: Washington people to fall in love with the thought of 44 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: maybe getting a lovely article in the New York Times 45 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: or Vanity Fair about themselves, and that's exactly what happens. 46 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: They get out on the campaign trio and they talk 47 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: to you, and they talk to me, and they're gonna 48 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: fight the system, and they're gonna drain the swamp. 49 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: And they're gonna do all these things. 50 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: And then they get to Washington, DC and they just 51 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: can't help themselves. The sirens song of maybe getting a 52 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: nice piece and Vanity Fair, you can show your mother. 53 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: It's too much, and soon we're getting blasted for it. 54 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: It's not the end of the world, yesterday's news. It's 55 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: not the end of the world, but it is indicative 56 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: that maybe we're not operating with the level of seriousness 57 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: and urgency we should. When the communists come back to power, 58 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: they're going to do everything they can to make sure 59 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: we never have another shot at it. That's how nasty 60 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: and demonic these people are. You think they arrested a 61 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: lot of Republicans last time. I think they destroyed a 62 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: lot of people in the Trump administration last time, including 63 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: attempts to destroy Trump himself. Last time was the appetizer. 64 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: Last time was the cheddar Bay biscuits before red Lobster 65 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: brings you the main course. We have to be better, 66 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: We have to be sharper. This is not good enough, 67 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: White House. I hope you're listening. That may have made 68 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: you uncomfortable, but I am right. Katie Zachariya has got 69 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: some some sobering analysis about how we're looking in the 70 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: midterms twenty twenty eight. 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Three months away from feeling 85 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: like a new person, We'll be back. 86 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 3: As for the Vanity Fair article, Michael, take your question directly. 87 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: This is, unfortunately another example of disingenuous reporting where you 88 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: have a reporter who took the chief of staff's words 89 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: wildly out of context, did not include the context those 90 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: conversations were had within. And further, I think the most 91 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: egregious part of this article was the bias of omission 92 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: that was clearly present. And we see a lot of 93 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: this when dealing with the media every day. You will 94 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 3: leave out important context, leave out comments in facts. You 95 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: know many people in this building spoke with that reporter 96 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: in those comments were never included in the story, probably 97 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: because it didn't push this false narrative of chaos and 98 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: confusion that the reporter was clearly trying to push. 99 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: Joining me now, Katie Zachariah, legal and political strategist Katie, 100 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: I think very highly of Caroline Levitt. I think she's 101 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: super sharp, thinks she's excellent at her job. She deals 102 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: with the media every day, Susy Wilds deals with the 103 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 1: media every single day. How can you be so dumb 104 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: to sit down with them for eleven days and think 105 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: you're gonna get any other result than the one you got. 106 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: That's my problem with the whole thing. 107 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 4: I agree with you. I love President Trump. On the 108 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 4: campaign trail, he used this poem called the Snake, and 109 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 4: it was you in the context of immigration and illegal immigration, 110 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 4: where this woman lets in this snake from the cold, 111 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 4: and she warms it up and eventually the snake bites 112 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 4: her and kills her. But why is this the biggest 113 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: analogy in my mind to an interview eleven interviews with 114 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: Vanity Fair. They have basically decided to deny what a 115 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: snake is and invite the snake into their home, the 116 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: White House, and expect the snake to not have snake 117 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 4: like traits, to not turn around and bite them when 118 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: it is beneficial. So I'm completely with you. I think 119 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: they might have set out with the right intent that 120 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 4: they wanted to present a nicer, more beautiful look of 121 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: the White House, but they're dealing with a snake that's 122 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 4: always going to be a snake, and eventually, what does 123 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 4: the snake say at the end of President Trump's poem, 124 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,559 Speaker 4: Oh shut up, silly woman, said the reptile with a grin. 125 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 4: You knew, damn well, I was a snake before you 126 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: took me in. And in my mind, this is the 127 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 4: exact equivalent of Vanity Fair. Vanity Fair for the last 128 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 4: ten or eleven or twelve years has done nothing but 129 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 4: hit pieces and been vile to President Trump. Why in 130 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five are we thinking that this is any different, Jesse. 131 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, By the way, my wife would one 132 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: hundred percent take a snake in. 133 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: I know she would. 134 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: She'd be like, it's sick because something I know she 135 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: would do that, all right. It's part of the problem, Katie, 136 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: that even if you have the right intention you get 137 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: to DC, whether you're a senator in the White House, 138 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: you still want that puff piece in the New York Times. 139 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: You can't help yourself. You want CBS to give you 140 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: a glowing profile. You want Vanity Fair to make your 141 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: eyes look pretty. It's just it's like they can't It's 142 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: like the sirens. They can't stay away from them. 143 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 4: Right, I think it's exactly what you're saying. People are 144 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: drawn to this, except when you're outside of DC. It's 145 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 4: so easy to look at Vanity Fair, Vogue, all these 146 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 4: different journals and different newspapers and see for what it is. 147 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 4: But then you get there and they lure this bright, 148 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: shiny object in front of you. We want to do 149 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 4: a nice puff piece, we want to look make you 150 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 4: look good. But they're never going to change. They're never 151 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 4: going to change. And this is part of the problem. 152 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 4: It's is it the chicken or the egg? Are they 153 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 4: feeding off of people's egos to continue making them look 154 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: good and bolster them in the media. What if all 155 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 4: this went away, What if we just focused on it 156 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 4: doesn't even have to be all right wing media, but 157 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: fair and balanced media that's somewhat center taking, taking kind 158 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 4: of this middle of the road. No, they still go 159 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 4: to the far left, the Washington Post, the New York Times, 160 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: Vanity Fair, and they want this nice article. It's never 161 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: gonna happen. It's never gonna happen until you get rid 162 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 4: of the leadership at these different journals Washington Post for instance. 163 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 4: These types of these types of hit pieces are forever 164 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: more going to occur until they decide to get rid 165 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: of all of the people running it. 166 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: Jesse, The stakes are obviously, Hi. 167 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: Everyone remembers how the Communists operated under Joe Biden for 168 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: four years, and for them, that was just wetting their whistle. 169 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: That was just an appetizer. 170 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: What's going to happen if we lose the House of 171 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: Representatives at the midterms. 172 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 4: I've been so so clear on this, Jesse. We will lose. First, 173 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 4: I'll go on the long game. We will lose the 174 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 4: twenty eight presidential the Republicans. It is my opinion that 175 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 4: if we do not keep the House, President Trump will 176 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 4: be suffering under all of the hikeeen Jeffreys impeachment inquiries, 177 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 4: and we will be on the complete defense for the 178 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 4: final two years of President Trump's term. We won't get 179 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: nothing done, nothing accomplished. We're already not getting anything accomplished. 180 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 4: In my mind, there is so much the House and 181 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 4: Senate could be doing. There's so much that they could 182 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 4: be implementing, and they are just slow rolling every single thing. 183 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,119 Speaker 4: So what happens when the Democrats regained majority. Nancy Pelosi 184 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: was just on an interview with USA today and she 185 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 4: was asked, are you confident that we're that the Democrats 186 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 4: will be able to take the majority, And she said, 187 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 4: I'm not confident. I am sure of it. I am 188 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: sure we're going to take it. It's only three seats 189 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 4: that's necessary. And while she's a little bit senile in 190 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 4: these days, I actually agree unless the Republicans really change 191 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: the trajectory and what they're doing. The Miami mayoral race 192 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: was the bell weather for me that the Republican we 193 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 4: lost a stronghold, a Republican strongholder, a Republican was mayor 194 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: for thirty years while it's a nonpartisan office we all 195 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 4: know it is, and we lost to a Democrat. And 196 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: I think this is a key indication that this was 197 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 4: the one that the Republican that lost was Trump backed 198 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 4: and we still lost it in Florida of all places. 199 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 4: And so if the Republicans don't get serious and I 200 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 4: mean extremely serious about healthcare overhaul, Speaker Johnson just said 201 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: he was going to implement all of the presidents or 202 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 4: many of the President's executive orders. Why are we waiting 203 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 4: so long to do all of this? Jesse? We have 204 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: a very short amount of time to start accomplishing all this, 205 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 4: and it just seems like they're dragging their feet and 206 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 4: resisting the President at every step of the way. So 207 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 4: what happens in twenty six. I don't think it's looking 208 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 4: good for the Republicans right now. I really don't. And 209 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 4: then long long game, it doesn't look good for twenty 210 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: eight presidential. 211 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: Katie. 212 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: I know it seems nonsensical, but do Republicans want to 213 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: be in the minority, then you don't have to actually 214 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: do anything. 215 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 2: You don't have to have any courage at all. 216 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: You can just sit there and whine and complain and 217 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: send out fundraising texts to you and me send me 218 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: twenty dollars. But I feel like they want to be 219 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: in the minority. 220 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 4: It feels that way. It feels they we have this 221 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 4: golden opportunity, right we work so hard, I work so hard, 222 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 4: and they work so hard, allegedly to get President Trump 223 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 4: back in office after four years of the disaster of 224 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, and we beat Kamala and 225 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 4: we beat her really well. However, we're not taking advantage 226 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 4: of this time that we have in office. So do 227 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: Republicans want to be in the minority? You make a 228 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 4: great point. They're not fighting like they want to be 229 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 4: in the majority. What does that look like? I know 230 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 4: that nuking the filibuster can be controversial. It has its downsides, 231 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 4: it has its upsides. If the Democrats were in power 232 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 4: and they knew that twenty six midterms were looming and 233 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 4: they were going to likely lose, and then that then 234 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 4: had an indication that they would likely lose the presidency, 235 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 4: they would be doing everything in their power to be 236 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: ramming through their agenda. And yet Republicans want to talk 237 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 4: about blue slip courtesy and not nuking the filibuster because 238 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 4: it could come back and honesus Jesse. If they don't 239 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: pass voter ID proof of citizenship under the Save Act, 240 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 4: Republicans will likely not win for a very long time 241 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: if we don't have a regulation on our election. So 242 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: I don't know why they want to be so weak 243 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 4: in the need. I honestly don't handy. 244 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: What is this blues the blue slip stuff? Can you 245 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: explain it to stupid people like me? Because Trump is 246 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: super hot on it and he's angry with Republicans about it. 247 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: What does this mean? 248 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 5: So? 249 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 4: The Senate Judiciary Committee, which is led by Chuck Grassley 250 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: right now, is the blue slip existed about since nineteen seventeen, 251 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 4: and what it is is it gives the home state senator. 252 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: So let's use Let's use Alena Habba's case for example. 253 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: So President Trump nominated his former attorney, Alena Habba to 254 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 4: be the US Attorney in New Jersey. And what is 255 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 4: the blue slip? So the blue slip gives Andy Kim 256 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 4: and Corey Booker, the two home senators from New Jersey, 257 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 4: the ability to basically say, eh, we don't want Alena 258 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 4: to be in office and submit that to Chuck Grassley. 259 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: And then Alena Habba does not get an opportunity to 260 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 4: even go through a full Senate hearing, a full Senate 261 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 4: committee hearing and nomination process. She just gets overridden by 262 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: the two homes signe home state senators. And again this 263 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: is not codified in any senatorial rules. There is no 264 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 4: there is no framework for this except tradition and policy. 265 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 4: And it existed at a time when you could where 266 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: or partisan politics. Even twenty years ago, we're not so 267 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: so hell bent on blocking anything against President Trump did, 268 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 4: or a Republican or Democrat did. They could actually maybe 269 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: get through some Republicans in a blue state or Democrats 270 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: and a red state. But we don't live in that 271 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: time anymore. Jesse, where where in California you're going to 272 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: have these Adam Schiff override a US attorney appointment by 273 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 4: President Trump or or Corey Booker for Elena Habba. And 274 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 4: so it's outdated in my mind. It really look you 275 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 4: look at two different processes. You look at US attorneys 276 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: which kind of fall under the DOJ and the president's 277 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 4: executive authority and his Article two powers, and then you 278 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 4: look at the judges the deed that right now it's 279 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 4: just specifically district court judges actually grassly kind of moved 280 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: it over to circuit court judges where you could go 281 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 4: through a full confirmation process and not the blue slips, 282 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 4: but district court judges still go under the blue slip process. 283 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 4: And I look at the infringement on his ability to 284 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 4: actually execute criminal justice proceedings, which is under his Article 285 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: two powers and under the DOJ. And we have two 286 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 4: active grand jury indictments for Comy and Letitia James sitting 287 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: in Virginia, and a US attorney that they will not 288 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: approve that the two Home senators in Virginia have said 289 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 4: we're not going to approve Lindsay Halligan, and so we 290 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 4: can't actually execute on these two standing grand jury indictments 291 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: because we don't have a prosecutor. So they're using this 292 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 4: tradition to block the president's ability to execute on criminal 293 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 4: justice reform, criminal justice and prosecutorial duties, which is an 294 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 4: extension of his executive power. So whether it can build 295 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: to this, does he have a viable case or a 296 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: viable lawsuit? All I will say is it infringes on 297 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 4: his article IWO powers for appointments and then execution powers 298 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 4: on prosecutions. And that is a dangerous place when we 299 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 4: have people like Comy and James that need to be 300 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 4: held accountable. 301 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 2: Jesse, gosh, we are so freaking screwed. Katie. You have 302 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 2: a merry Christmas, all right, Jez, all right, pick your 303 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: chin up. 304 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: We'll keep on marching here. Look at least my gut 305 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: feels good. I have colostrum in it. It's actually in 306 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: there right now. 307 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: Did you know that? 308 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: You know why I have colostrum in there because I 309 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: use cowboy colostrum. I put it in my coffee every 310 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: single morning every morning. Mind's chocolate, So I have a 311 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: chocolate cup of coffee every morning. But we're not talking 312 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: about bad for your chocolate. We're talking about the kind 313 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: of chocolate that makes your digestive system work the way 314 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: it's supposed to work. Are there things that kind of 315 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: upset your tummy? Worry about that when you wake up 316 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: in the morning, going to bed at night. Why don't 317 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: you try some Cowboy colostrum in your life. You might 318 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: just get the relief you're looking for. It's recommended to 319 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: me by my sister, and man it works Cowboycolostrum dot 320 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: com use the code Jesse TV. 321 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: We'll be back. All right. 322 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: Well, I keep saying this because it seems like we're 323 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: almost ready to go to war with Venezuela. 324 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 2: But we're almost ready to go to war with Venezuela. 325 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 2: I think I don't know. 326 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: Trump puts out a statement says the Maduro regime needs 327 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: to return. 328 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: I want to make sure I read this right, oil 329 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: land or any other assets. 330 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: And he's designated the regime as a foreign terrorist organization. 331 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: What does all this mean? Where are we going? 332 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: Let's talk to Joshua Philip about this host of crossroads 333 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: with Joshua Philip. All right, Joshua, well, what's happening? What 334 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: other assets? What's he talking about? 335 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: So? 336 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 5: I saw Trump's tweet? So a few areas to this. 337 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 5: Everybody thought it was just about the drug boats. 338 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 2: Right. 339 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 5: Trump's down there blowing up the drug boats, saying it's 340 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 5: trend A Arragua and the cartail the Suns, which is 341 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 5: the Venezuelan government in Maduro being involved in the drug trade. 342 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 5: And now he's talking about oil and land, and everyone's saying, hey, 343 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 5: here we go another oil war. 344 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 2: You know. 345 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 5: But what I assume this is about is Guyana, just 346 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 5: north of Venezuela. And it's actually something I've been talking 347 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 5: about kind of from the get go, because to me, 348 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 5: this has never been really just about drugs. This has 349 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 5: been about restoring the Packs Americana, restoring the Monroe doctrine, 350 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 5: and also about preventing a war which Venezuela and Brazil 351 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 5: were just about to start literally a few months before 352 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 5: they started blowing up the drug boats. So again, the 353 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 5: main point here is Guyana, little tiny country just north 354 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 5: of Venezuela, where they discovered several years back one of 355 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 5: the world's largest oil reserves, and where you have eggs 356 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 5: on and the United States having a heavy presence doing 357 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 5: an oil exploration, an oil drilling, and notably when Venezuela 358 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 5: cleared in its law to actually seize part of that 359 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 5: country because they claim they have partial ownership of it. 360 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 5: They moved their military to the border, they were doing 361 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 5: military drills. They moved their navy right there, right next 362 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 5: to the eggs on mobile oil platforms. And that's when 363 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 5: Trump started this whole thing. So I assume that's what 364 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 5: he's referring to. 365 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: Okay, they never moved on Guyana. Let's talk about this blockade. 366 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: We have going down there. 367 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: Those things are only as successful as you know, as 368 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: you can trade with other countries in your area. If 369 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: you can't put anything on a ship, how many allies 370 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: did they have around them? 371 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 5: Well, so, Venezuela is close allies with Cuba. In fact, 372 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 5: under Chavez, Javez and Fidel Castor were big buddies and 373 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 5: basically they were kind of They were one of the 374 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 5: main areas that brought back the Cuban economy for a bit. 375 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: They do they do trade. 376 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 5: He had pretty heavily with Brazil, pretty heavily with Columbia, 377 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 5: but not enough to really support their economy. The sanctions 378 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 5: have hit the main area of the Venezuelan economy, which 379 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 5: is oil. It's basically oil and drugs, and that's almost 380 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 5: about it. The sanctions cut off the oil. They still 381 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 5: trade with Iran still trade with China really heavily and effectively. 382 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 5: They've been using what are called black ships. Ships go 383 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 5: in the area, turn off their beacons, go dark, get 384 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 5: the oil traded. And that's how they've been avoiding sanctions. 385 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: Okay, So if we start to strangle that, and apparently 386 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: we are going to start to strangle that, is this 387 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: a country that's going to collapse? I mean, from what 388 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: I understand, the people are already starving. What's it like there? 389 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 5: So this is the important context. A lot of this, 390 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 5: I would say, goes back to twenty eighteen Venezuelan elections 391 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 5: took place. Maduro right he was accused of rigging the elections. 392 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 5: Trump's first term in office, mass protests in Venezuela. People 393 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 5: were rioting on the streets saying Maduro stole the election. 394 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 5: And actually the even Biden, even the bidministration also upheld 395 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 5: that Maduro stole the election. That's how bipartisan this was. 396 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 5: Trump was talking about sending US military assets to Venezuela 397 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 5: to effectively help with regime change, to put down the 398 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 5: Maduro regime because they were persecuting their own citizens. What 399 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 5: happened was that Maduro actually called out to China and 400 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 5: Russia and Iran for help. Russia sent two nuclear bombers 401 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 5: to Venezuela and then sent a message to the United 402 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 5: States saying if America intervenes, it'll be catastrophic, effectively giving 403 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 5: veiled nuclear threats and also said of America intervenes, is 404 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 5: going to be bloodshed. And then China, the Chinese regime, 405 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 5: they went to the United Nations and framed the United 406 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 5: States as being a colonial power and pushing this colonial idea, 407 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 5: which again they're talk about the Monroe doctrine, trying to 408 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 5: control of the States, and Trump actually backed off, but 409 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 5: the country has never been stable after Russia and China 410 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 5: stepped in to keep Maduro in power. Maduro was actually 411 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 5: using various cartels as the kind of foot soldiers to 412 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: stay in power. They were kicking indoors, shooting people point blank, 413 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 5: arresting people, I mean the whole nine yards, and life 414 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 5: for the average Venezuelan has gone down since then, so 415 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 5: it's gotten worse, not better, And effectively, the only reason 416 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 5: the regime is still there is because basically support from 417 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 5: Russia and China. When Trump said he's going to make 418 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 5: regime change. This time, Maduro did the same thing. Russia, China, Iran. 419 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 5: He sent out calls, there were open reports on it, 420 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 5: and they're not coming to help him. 421 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: Trump. 422 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 5: Trump has China, you know, held pretty heavy economically right now. 423 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 5: They're not going to risk ruining their economy. Russia is 424 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 5: not going to come to the rescue. They can barely 425 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 5: they can barely survive in the war they're in right now, 426 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 5: let alone support a second war. So Russia actually called 427 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 5: on Russian citizens to leave. And Iran is not in 428 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 5: a powerful position either, especially not after you know the 429 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 5: bombings of their nuclear facilities and you know the back 430 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 5: and forth they've had with Israel. None of the countries 431 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 5: that would rescue them are capable of it right now. 432 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: So he's fresh out of friends. All right, Let's let's 433 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: talk a little cartel stuff, because the government essentially is 434 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: a cartel there, and we have Mexican cartels and the 435 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: Trump administration is very loud about the fact they've declared 436 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: war on these cartels. 437 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: What effect has it had on them? 438 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 5: So this is this is something important. So when Trump 439 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 5: is running for office, and you know, he's done it 440 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 5: since then, one of his campaign talking points was He's 441 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 5: going to use the full military, military intelligence, special forces, raids, 442 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 5: naval blockades, the whole nine yards to fight and destroy 443 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 5: the cartels. He also said something very interesting though. Trump 444 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 5: said that if any country or any leader tries to 445 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 5: stop him from doing that, he will expose the ties 446 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 5: or connections of that leader to the cartels. And he's 447 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 5: done that, right. They've declared that Maduro is the leader 448 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 5: of the cartel of the suns as are the heads 449 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 5: of many of the people in his regime. They've declared that. 450 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 5: You know, the president in Colombia has also tied him 451 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 5: with the cartels because he tried defending tried defending Maduro 452 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 5: and try to stop Trump from acting there. He's even 453 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 5: levying similar kind of veiled threats to Mexico right now. 454 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 5: So this ties into something bigger and how we understand drugs. 455 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 5: Drugs are not just about money. Drugs are a tool 456 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 5: to kind of create puppet states. So the drug trade, 457 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 5: a lot of it in Latin America, was actually started 458 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 5: up through a program between the Chinese Communist Party in Cuba. 459 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 5: This goes back to when Fidel Castro was still in 460 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 5: power and back when maozedon was still head of the CCP, 461 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 5: Maozedon came up with a drug warfare plan which is 462 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 5: actually publicly listed in their unrestricted Warfare doctrine, using effectively 463 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 5: Cuban intelligence networks to establish drug trade networks, training narco 464 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 5: terrorist organizations in China, though they're basically Maoist communist groups, 465 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 5: and then using those to spread corruption using drugs, then 466 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 5: using the money from drugs to push political campaigns, and 467 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 5: then using criminality to effectively kill the opposition of the 468 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 5: political campaigns, planting various leaders in power throughout the entire region, 469 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 5: and then using those leaders to clear the way even 470 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 5: more so for the drug trade. More money, more political money, 471 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 5: more campaign money, and of course more influence to buy 472 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 5: people off, corrupt people, compromise people, kill off opponents, and 473 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 5: effectively seize control of the region. This was the method 474 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 5: use of using criminality to effectively take over most of 475 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 5: Latin America. The Chinese Communist Party in Cuba were deeply 476 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 5: involved with it, as was Hugo Chaves, and so as 477 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 5: it relates now to Maduro being the leader of the 478 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 5: cartel the Suns. That's why effectively drugs have been a 479 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 5: tool to manufacture puppet States and get leaders in place 480 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 5: tight in with it. 481 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: Joshua, Well, what exactly were we doing when Mao z 482 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: Dun was taking over the continent that's just south of us. 483 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 5: Well, you know, we had the war on drugs, and 484 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 5: America is of course fighting you know, contra battles. I 485 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 5: don't think America properly fought it though, really to an extent, 486 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 5: we did maintain the Monroe doctrine, you know, mid early 487 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 5: eighteen hundreds policy, no European colonies in Latin America. All 488 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 5: of the Americas is our backyard, nobody outside of it. 489 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 5: And so that kept out, of course, European colonies. In 490 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 5: the eighteen hundreds, moving into the Cold War, work kept 491 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 5: out the Soviets, kept out the Chinese. But we actually 492 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 5: began losing that battle around the time of Hugo Javas, 493 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 5: so Hugo Chaves working together openly with Fidel Castro. Again 494 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 5: back to this entire network they did. They made various 495 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 5: interregional unions, so unions of Latin American powers where the 496 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 5: countries themselves worked together, did not include the United States 497 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 5: or Canada, but brought in Russia and China and Iran, right, 498 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 5: a lot of money from China. Belton wrote, Initiative Infrastructure 499 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 5: Projects debt traps. They basically enslaved the countries of the 500 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 5: debt that all came in and a lot of the 501 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: pilot programs were actually done in Venezuela. But what the 502 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 5: reason behind this, as publicly stated by Castro and publicly 503 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 5: stated by Javas, and remember Maduro was handpicked by Javas, 504 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 5: was to push out the United States to eliminate the 505 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 5: Monroe doctrine. And so actually, I think it's very telling 506 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 5: right now that what did Trump just come out and say, 507 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 5: what did Petexa? You say, they're going to start restoring 508 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 5: them in Row doctrine, They're going to begin enforcing it. 509 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 5: We're going to start creating friendly nations, and we're going 510 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 5: to start overthrowing unfriendly nations. And I think Maduro, you know, 511 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 5: in Venezuela. I think I think he is going to 512 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 5: be the first to go as part of this. 513 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: That's wonderful. Tell me about this documentary you have coming out, 514 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: Truth under Fire. 515 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, So I just finished a documentary. It's out 516 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 5: now on Epic tv dot com epoch tv dot com. 517 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 5: So I did a documentary about Charlie Kirk it's called 518 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 5: truth under fire, the framing of Charlie Kirk, and it 519 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 5: goes into the hit piece machine. It goes into how 520 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 5: the media falsely labeled him as you know, a bigot 521 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 5: and a racist and an anti semi and whatever other 522 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 5: label they want to come up with, How the media 523 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 5: used underhanded tricks frame those narratives, and the infrastructure tied 524 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 5: in with it, the advocacy organizations groups like the ACLU 525 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 5: for example, that label people, define people, and then train 526 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 5: government agencies even on how to target groups that have 527 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 5: that type of label, and how through the propaganda networks 528 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 5: that have labeled Charlie Kirk like that, it probably led 529 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 5: to him being killed. And I think this is a 530 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 5: bigger picture than this Charlie Kirk. It's something a lot 531 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 5: of conservatives have faced death threats, you know, dosing the 532 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 5: whole nine yards, and there's a machine behind it. So 533 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 5: this documentary exposes that machine. 534 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: About that. I would encourage everyone go watch this. We 535 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: need to remember our martyr and remember how evil the 536 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: media is. Joshua, I appreciate your brother, Thank you. I 537 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: appreciate it. That's fascinating stuff. I'm so much smarter now. 538 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to go tell that to everybody and act 539 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: like I came up with all of it. I'm going 540 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: to tell people I came up with dream powder from 541 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: Beam too. It's not true, obviously, it's their product, but 542 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: I love it so much that I'll just take credit 543 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: for it. You know, you can have a cup of 544 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: hot chocolate before bed that'll have you sleep like a 545 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: baby every night. 546 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: You know that it's delicious. 547 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: If I didn't tell you there were natural things in it, 548 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: like magnesium and this stuff, you would have no idea. 549 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: It's just a cup. 550 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: Of hot chocolate, cinnamon chocolate actually, and you'll sleep like 551 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: a baby, and you'll wake up in the morning feeling good, 552 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: ready to go, not with that groggy, drugged out ready 553 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: to go shockbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly. 554 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: We'll be back. 555 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: There is some good news out there, you Everything doesn't 556 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: have to be. 557 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: Dark and black pilled. 558 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: Trump just expanded the travel band to countries, lovely countries, 559 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, like Syria. We already have ones on places 560 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: like Afghanistan, Haiti, Iran, Yemen. But that does raise a 561 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: very interesting question. I'll ask Charles Cornishdale that Ashton he 562 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: wrote that book, wonderful book by the way the last men. 563 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: I would highly encourage you to read that book, Charles. 564 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: How is the West going to survive without wonderful people 565 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: coming in from Syria and Afghanistan? I mean, what what 566 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: won't the food get planned? 567 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 6: Well, look we we do have the recipes now, Jesse, 568 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 6: so we. 569 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: So. 570 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean it's I mean, it's a it's 571 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 6: a it's a it's a good thing. I mean, it's 572 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 6: a it's a good thing, isn't it. I mean it 573 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 6: it satisfies common sense that actually, look, you know these countries, 574 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 6: you know, you import people from these countries, and and 575 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 6: you know the people you import end up committing heinous 576 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 6: acts of terrorism. And I mean, why wouldn't you have 577 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 6: a travel ban? I mean it's obviously controversial, you know, 578 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 6: it upsets liberals, but it satisfies the basic tenets of 579 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 6: common sense. 580 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: Charal, just from a thirty thousand foot view, watching Western 581 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: civilization massively import foreign barbarians over the decades and watching 582 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: the results of that, Why did it happen? Why is 583 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: it happening? Why are these people honestly all over Europe, 584 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: all over America? Why are they so committed to this 585 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: obvious destruction? When it violates common sense. 586 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's a good question, and you know, I 587 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 6: think about it a lot, and I still am not 588 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 6: entirely sure that I've come up with a satisfactory answer. 589 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 6: I mean, it's certainly yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't satisfy 590 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 6: the basic tenets of common sense. It doesn't seem to 591 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 6: you know, if you want to maintain a high functioning, safe, peaceful, 592 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 6: prosperous society. It's the opposite of what you would do. 593 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 6: And yet mass immigration has reached record levels across the 594 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 6: Western world, you know, I mean, just okay, So here's 595 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 6: an example. Look at what happened in the Great Britain 596 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 6: under Boris Johnson. So Boris Johnson, conservative prime minister elected 597 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 6: just before the pandemic, massive majority mandate for immigration restriction. 598 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 6: This is a man who famously quotes from quotes Homer 599 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 6: in ancient Greek. You know, he's a classical scholar, he's 600 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 6: a conservative, supposedly, and what does he do. He ends 601 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 6: up importing a record million plus people a year. In fact, 602 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 6: I think during Boris Johnson's tenure, something like four million 603 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 6: people came to Great Britain. Yeah, it's called it's called 604 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 6: the Boris wave. They actually call it the Boris Wave 605 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 6: because it's you know, so you get a conservative you 606 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 6: elect a conservative government that's promising immigration restriction, and you 607 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 6: get four million immigrants, and not only that, immigrants, not 608 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 6: immigrants from Europe as when you know, Britain was part 609 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 6: of the EU and that was problem enough. People were 610 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 6: upset enough about hundreds of thousands of Polish people coming 611 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 6: to Britain. But then we leave the EU and what 612 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 6: do you get. You get four million people from India, Pakistan, 613 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 6: Africa instead from the Third World. So it gets even worse. 614 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 6: I mean, I think you have to conclude basically that 615 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 6: the people in charge simply hate their own citizens. I mean, 616 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 6: that's the conclusion I come back to time and time again. 617 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 6: These people actively hate the countries and the people they 618 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 6: govern and want to destroy them. 619 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got those on our side of the pond too. 620 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: They tell us all the time that America was built 621 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 1: by immigrants. What a thing to say to a country 622 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: of citizens. Charles, by the way, speaking of your side 623 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: of the pond, did someone go to prison for text messages? 624 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 2: What's happening over there? 625 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 6: Yeah it's not the first either. So yeah, so Joey 626 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 6: Barton has been sentenced to prison for sending supposedly offensive 627 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 6: messages to a TV personality, to a black TV personality. 628 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 6: But this kind of thing happens all the time. I mean, 629 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 6: social media is heavily heavily surveiled now, but not only 630 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 6: social media, people's private communications. So there was the really 631 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 6: crazy case recently of a woman who was convicted of 632 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 6: a hate crime and I don't think she's been sentenced yet, 633 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 6: but she's facing something like ten years in prison because 634 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 6: she referred to a man who sexually assaulted her in 635 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 6: a private text message. She referred to the man as 636 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 6: a faggot. And she has been convicted of a hate 637 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 6: crime and could go to prison for ten years. So 638 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 6: I mean it, yeah, I mean it's as bad as 639 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 6: people say it really is. You know, Elon Musk on 640 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 6: Twitter is hammering Britain and has been hammering Britain for 641 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 6: months and months and months for you know, this appalling 642 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 6: deterioration in terms of civil liberties and freedom. But he's right, 643 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 6: and actually I think a lot of people in Britain 644 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 6: are quite grateful to Elon Musk actually for really shining 645 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 6: a light into all of this murk because it's only 646 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 6: getting worse. I mean, Britain is becoming a very very sinister, 647 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 6: very very scary place. 648 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: Charles, I admit that I don't. I haven't had a 649 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: ton of life experience with Brits. Most of mine came 650 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 1: with British Royal Marines when I was in the Marines, 651 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: and so obviously I have that window. But they were 652 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: so patriotic, they loved their country. They also drank like fish, 653 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: but that's another story. They love their country. Is there 654 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: a breaking point where people like that rise up and 655 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: say no more? 656 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, you'd think we'd have reached it many 657 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 6: many times. Over look at the Grooming Gang scandal for example. 658 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 6: The scale I mean, the Grooming gang scandal actually is 659 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 6: an atrocity basically on a scale that's comparable to a 660 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 6: war zone. You know, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of 661 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 6: thousands of white British girls raped, groomed, some even murdered, 662 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 6: deliberately targeted by South Asian muslim Men mainly from Pakistan 663 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 6: because they were white, non Muslims. And you know, it's 664 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 6: the kind of atrocity that you'd actually expect to see 665 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 6: somewhere like the Balkans in the nineteen nineties. I mean, 666 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 6: it's basically ethnic cleansing, is what it is. And actually, 667 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 6: as you know, as the full scale of that atrocity 668 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 6: has been revealed, there has been huge public anger, without 669 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 6: a doubt. I mean, it really is a very live issue, 670 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 6: and if you travel around the country, if you go 671 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 6: to small towns and cities, you do get the sense 672 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 6: that people are very, very There's a febrile atmosphere. People 673 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 6: definitely are worked up. They are really starting to think about, 674 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 6: you know, about what's going on and what can be done. 675 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 6: But yes, we absolutely haven't reached our breaking point yet, 676 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 6: but I mean it could happen. I won't say it won't, 677 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 6: but I'm nevertheless surprised. You know, it's been a catalog 678 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 6: of atrocities, and you know, immigration has got so bad, 679 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 6: and the economy is bad, and civil liberties are being 680 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 6: eroded at such a rate that actually, yes, it does 681 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 6: make you wonder what more could happen before people do 682 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 6: actually take matters into their own hands. 683 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 2: We've got an issue here in America. 684 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: I don't know how big it is over there, but 685 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: we have violent trainees all over this country, people who've 686 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: been had things injected inside of them had their body 687 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: parts chopped off, and now they regularly shoot up schools 688 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: and try to execute people. We just had a TRANDIFA 689 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: group of commies planning on some New Year's terrorism, included 690 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: a marine vet. I'm ashamed to say, Charles, you saw 691 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: this coming a long time ago. 692 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 6: Why, yeah, I did so. I've been writing about this 693 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 6: kind of stuff for quite some time. I mean, I think, basically, 694 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 6: in basic terms, you have to look at transgender people 695 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 6: as kind of prime candidates for radicalization. I mean, they 696 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 6: are already the most radicalized left wing people basically in 697 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 6: the US. For the most part, most people who are 698 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 6: transgender will be of an extremely radical leftists type. But 699 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 6: what you have to what you have to think, I think, 700 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 6: is that you know, the Trump administration is clamping down 701 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 6: on transgenderism in certain respects, clamping down on the gender 702 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 6: reassignment surgeries, clamping down on hormonal surgery as well. And 703 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 6: that is the way that transgender people reproduce, if you will, 704 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 6: in inverted commas, you know, every single group, every single 705 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 6: society cares about reproducing itself, and that is how transgender 706 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 6: people reproduce, is they get other people to think that 707 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 6: they're transgender, they have surgery, they have hormonal therapy, and 708 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 6: then they become transgender, and the transgender movement grows. So 709 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 6: what Trump is really doing by clamping down on that 710 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 6: is he's actually, he really is posing an existential threat 711 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 6: to the re production of transgenderism as an ideology and 712 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 6: more broadly a social movement or grouping. So they do feel, 713 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 6: these already radicalized people really do feel that they are 714 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 6: under existential assault. And that's why I think these people 715 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 6: are increasingly turning violent. And you know, we've seen a 716 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 6: lot of we've seen a lot of violence already in 717 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 6: the first ten months of the Trump presidency. People forget 718 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 6: that in February, a transgender man, Ryan Michael English I 719 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 6: seem to remember his name, being tried to assassinate Treasury 720 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 6: Secretary Scott Bess and burn down the Heritage Foundation. So 721 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 6: that was just a month into the Trump presidency. Then 722 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 6: you've got things like the Zizians, this radical transgender vegan cult. 723 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 6: They'd be murdering people across the US. You know, the 724 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 6: man who probably killed Charlie Kirk, he had a transgender 725 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 6: boyfriend and a furry obsession. And then it turns out 726 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 6: that actually the weirdo who tried to assassinate Donald Trump 727 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 6: and very nearly did. In Butler last year, he had 728 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 6: a furry obsession and also seems to have thought that 729 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 6: he was non binary, that he was transgender as well. 730 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 6: So there's a very clear pattern. I think that's emerging here, 731 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 6: and I think it behooves the authorities to take it 732 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 6: as seriously as possible. I don't think that this is random. 733 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 6: I think that this is very definitely a pattern, and 734 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 6: they need to pay attention to it because that they're 735 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 6: going to try and kill more people they really are. 736 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 2: Furries. 737 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: It just makes me feel so old that this stuff 738 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: even exists. All right, Charles, tell me about The Last Men, because. 739 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 2: It really is an important read. Certainly form men, tell 740 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 2: me about this. 741 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 6: Yeah. So this is my new book. It's just come out. 742 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 6: It came out yesterday via sky As. You can get 743 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 6: it in hardback, kindle and audiobook formats from Amazon in 744 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 6: the US. This is my this is my intervention really 745 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 6: in the ongoing debate about the crisis of masculinity. You know, 746 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 6: what is happening to men in the world. Why are 747 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 6: men basically you know, unable to be men anymore? And 748 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 6: there's a lot of writing about this, as people like 749 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,479 Speaker 6: Jordan Peterson. Senator Josh Harley has a book, but none 750 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 6: of them have really focused on the biological roots, the 751 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 6: biological changes that are taking place that are actually making 752 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 6: it much harder for men to be men. And in particular, 753 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 6: what's happening is we've got this civilizational decline in testosterone levels. 754 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 6: Testosterone is the master male hormone. It's responsible for muscle mass, energy, motivation, libido, aggression, 755 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 6: other things as well, but it really testosterone is what 756 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 6: makes men men. And we're seeing something like a one 757 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 6: percent year on year decline in testosterone levels across the 758 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 6: Western world and maybe actually even in the non Western 759 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 6: world as well. And so I'm looking at this problem 760 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 6: of masculinity from the perspective of hormones. What is happening 761 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 6: to our hormones and why is it happening? And I 762 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 6: talk about things like exposure to harmful chemicals, processed foods, 763 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 6: sedentary lifestyles, etc. I mean, in many ways, actually the 764 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 6: book is a follow on from the Tucker Carson documentary 765 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 6: that I was in in twenty twenty two, which was 766 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 6: called The End of Men. And I was in that 767 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 6: documentary with RFK Junior, and it was about the crisis 768 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 6: of masculinity, biological roots of it and what people can 769 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 6: do about it as well what men can do to 770 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 6: reclaim their masculinity. So this book is a description, it's 771 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 6: a diagnosis of the problem, I think, a much deeper 772 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 6: diagnosis of the problem of masculinity today. But it also 773 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 6: contains useful advice that men can f in order actually 774 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,879 Speaker 6: to improve their testosterone levels, to improve their health, and 775 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 6: to be more masculine. 776 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,240 Speaker 2: The book is the last men go by it. Charles, 777 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 2: thank you, my brother. I appreciate it. Merry Christmas to you. 778 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 2: Like the move next. 779 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: All right, it is time to lighten the mood in 780 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: It's Christmas time. It's a wonderful, wonderful time of year. 781 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you something that I at least attempt 782 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 1: to teach my sons that remember, Christmas is about giving things, 783 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: not getting things. My son said the other day, it 784 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: was last week something like that. It's a dad, I 785 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 1: pay I think I figure out what I want for Christmas? 786 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: And I said, have you figured out what you want 787 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: to give for Christmas? Christmas is about giving things, give 788 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: wonderful things to people. And you're sitting here watching them. Right, 789 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 1: you have an options I feel obligated to give, to 790 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: give you a wonderful Christmas present. So from us here 791 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: and I'm right in the first, We're Christmas. 792 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 2: That's wonderful. Let's see them all. 793 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 4: M hmmmmm