Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,
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Speaker 2: the King. I told y'all I'm gonna start mixed things up. Okay,
Speaker 2: there's only so.
Speaker 1: Many house spots I can talk about child before that
Speaker 1: shit sounds redundant. Therefore, we're going to talk about all
Speaker 1: things unscripted. We did the Kardashians earlier this week. My
Speaker 1: comments section has been going off hunt me because y'all
Speaker 1: want me to talk about drag Race as well.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll give you Paul on the podcast. How basic
Speaker 3: would that be? Ray Drops?
Speaker 1: But today we are going to talk about a new
Speaker 1: documentary that appeared on two be called Saving Wendy, and
Speaker 1: it is from Harvey Levin, of course, the man and
Speaker 1: legal analysts that created TMZ. So it's called saving Wendy
Speaker 1: and rain Drops. Harvey is interviewing Wendy kind of like
Speaker 1: be a satellite where he has a camera crew outside
Speaker 1: of the building in which she's staying at.
Speaker 3: It's an assistant living building.
Speaker 1: Wendy is wearing a black form fitting Leo.
Speaker 3: Tar giving single ladies teas.
Speaker 1: She has on a beautiful amber colored wig and a
Speaker 1: rit lip. But what's so fascinating is he's talking to
Speaker 1: her on his own set and the camera crew is
Speaker 1: able to film her looking out the window on her
Speaker 1: phone talking to Harvey and on the set. It's genius.
Speaker 1: It's fucking genius. But I could not get this episode alone.
Speaker 1: I am joined by entertainment journalists and reporter Jazzy Bell,
Speaker 1: who also is the creator and host of Women and
Speaker 1: Hip Hop podcast, and she just happens to be my
Speaker 1: baby sister.
Speaker 3: So give it up for the one the only Jazzy Bell.
Speaker 4: Yes, I like that introduction. What's up?
Speaker 1: Loads?
Speaker 4: Can I call you Loads, big bro?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: Some other folks call me rain Drops. A lot of
Speaker 1: the men I did call me other things, but you
Speaker 1: are allowed to call me so I've heard, well, you
Speaker 1: know the single man in d Street study. As long
Speaker 1: as someone calls me, you would be both.
Speaker 3: That's why could you? We're single too big?
Speaker 1: Single is not the business I thought it would be
Speaker 1: worth fun. But I have to say, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like wah. It's like the Charlie Brown voice, gnarvation.
Speaker 3: Wah, wah wah.
Speaker 5: Because we are libras are lovers. We are ruled by Venus,
Speaker 5: the love planet, so we like to be loved. Everything
Speaker 5: about us is all of our love, so that's why
Speaker 5: we don't particularly like being single.
Speaker 4: But we also don't like our time being wasted and
Speaker 4: don't play with us.
Speaker 5: So being single, where's that? I'm okay with that. I'm
Speaker 5: sitting in that space right now.
Speaker 3: You feel me, I do feel you.
Speaker 1: And in the words of Tom Cruise, I'm looking for
Speaker 1: a few good.
Speaker 3: Men, not that he is.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the movie, the movie Guys, A Few
Speaker 1: good Men that Tom Cruise started.
Speaker 3: So please this day what I've been by that?
Speaker 1: Okay, But anyways, we're not going to talk about our
Speaker 1: single life because we can be here all day dissecting
Speaker 1: why two libras who are I think a practive and
Speaker 1: successful are having a hard time finding a good man Savannah.
Speaker 3: But you know, such as life.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I want to get into what's going on
Speaker 1: with Wendy william So explain to us.
Speaker 3: Jazz Bell so funny calling you that I know.
Speaker 4: And I'm kind of low pee cringing.
Speaker 5: You know, you know how I feel about my family
Speaker 5: members calling me by my I don't want to say
Speaker 5: stage name because it's giving a stripper, but it's okay.
Speaker 3: Bets.
Speaker 1: Y'all follow her to on all social media Jazzy Bell TV,
Speaker 1: j A z z I E Bell, B E L
Speaker 1: L E three.
Speaker 4: No, that's my Gmail.
Speaker 1: But yes, see, y'all, I know too much. But you
Speaker 1: are close to this story because not only did you
Speaker 1: interview the the legend, the icon, the mo that is
Speaker 1: Wendy Williams on your successful podcast Women and Hip Hop,
Speaker 1: you are also a guest on her talk show, The
Speaker 1: Wendy Williams Show as what you do entertainment, journalism and reporting.
Speaker 1: So explain to the rain Drops as we dive into
Speaker 1: this unscripted documentary that appeared on two B where we're
Speaker 1: going to dive into what's happening with the misappropriating of
Speaker 1: her funds, her finances. The conservativeship is giving Brittany Spears tease,
Speaker 1: but repre begin to all that. Talk to me about
Speaker 1: what is going on with Wendy Williams.
Speaker 3: You got a chance to meet her, work with her.
Speaker 3: How sad is this for you?
Speaker 1: Because I know you personally and I know that you're
Speaker 1: very saddened by this.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean, like you said, she's the legends, She's
Speaker 5: the moment. She is the moment, as she says, And
Speaker 5: it is sad because anybody in this media space, you
Speaker 5: know Williams, We've looked up to her, whether you agree
Speaker 5: with her style of reporting, hosting journalism, but that woman
Speaker 5: is a legend. So to see where her life and
Speaker 5: her career is today, and it's definitely disappointing. But working
Speaker 5: with Wendy has thus far been the highlight of my career.
Speaker 5: When they approached me to do the SI Scoop segment
Speaker 5: on the Wendy Williams Show, I was excited. I met
Speaker 5: with her and her family at one point, her and
Speaker 5: her then husband. Yet, because she's divorced, even talked about
Speaker 5: managing me at one point. So this is someone that
Speaker 5: I definitely work closely with and definitely still have love
Speaker 5: in my heart for and respect for. So again to
Speaker 5: see her and where she's at today is heartbreaking.
Speaker 3: No, it's super heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: So you and I would watch Wendy Wilms together, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it was at our home together or we would
Speaker 1: text each other, FaceTime each other on a daily basis.
Speaker 1: She was a force to be reckoned with on television
Speaker 1: on radio. Now we get to see, unfortunately, the demise
Speaker 1: of her career. The talk Chalk got canceled. Explained to
Speaker 1: us what was going on to where Wendy Williams is
Speaker 1: no longer on television.
Speaker 5: Well, Wendy was open about her struggle with alcoholism, and
Speaker 5: you know, like you said, we watched her every day
Speaker 5: right low. So we saw after a while her kind
Speaker 5: of deteriorating. We saw her slurring with her words. We
Speaker 5: saw her being forgiveful with guests, kind of not picking
Speaker 5: up you know, when it comes to interviewing. She would,
Speaker 5: you know, get lost in her words. So we saw
Speaker 5: the downfall happen in front of us. It's funny because
Speaker 5: I did the last time I was on her show,
Speaker 5: because I did it a few times. But the last
Speaker 5: time I was on there was in October of twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say it was.
Speaker 5: Exactly October sixteenth or seventeen, and she passed out two
Speaker 5: weeks later on that infamous episode, remember that of the
Speaker 5: Halloween episode, but she wore.
Speaker 4: The saf Liberty costume.
Speaker 5: So after that it seemed like Wendy was never the same,
Speaker 5: and soon after that before the year was our believe
Speaker 5: it is when she opened up to the world on
Speaker 5: her show, letting people know that she like self checked
Speaker 5: herself into a rehab facility dealing with alcoholism. And from
Speaker 5: there it's when Wendy again has never been the same.
Speaker 5: And you know, she was diagnosed in twenty twenty three
Speaker 5: with alcohol induced dementia and that's when the guardianship and
Speaker 5: conservativeship all came into play because of her struggle with alcoholism.
Speaker 5: Although Wendy today is saying that she is being misdiagnosed
Speaker 5: too through her guardian all this is being alleged, but
Speaker 5: as of right now, she was diagnosed with having alcohol
Speaker 5: induced dementia and a phasian deals with the language disordered
Speaker 5: that effects a person's ability to communicate, which again we
Speaker 5: did see happen.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, no, we did see it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we saw the sort of deterioration of.
Speaker 1: Wendy as we know in love, like you said, she wasn't.
Speaker 3: As sharp as she used to be.
Speaker 1: She was definitely forgetful. I remember episodes where she just
Speaker 1: appeared lost, you know, being on that stage and Norman
Speaker 1: her her Sidekickslash co host, trying to like help her along,
Speaker 1: and we're talking about live television, which is so hard
Speaker 1: to do. Which is hard to do number one and
Speaker 1: number two, you have to be sharp. So we did
Speaker 1: see that her then husband had a mistress for many, many,
Speaker 1: many many years. The Daily Mail exposed this relationship, and
Speaker 1: I think for all of us as fans, we kind
Speaker 1: of saw that's when things started to turn down a
Speaker 1: very dark road. As of today, she is now living
Speaker 1: in New York City in an assisted living facility, where
Speaker 1: she told Harvey Levin that in the past thirty days
Speaker 1: she was only allowed to go outside twice. Oh no,
Speaker 1: And Harvey said to her even murderers in prison are
Speaker 1: allowed to go outside every day. So she is arguing
Speaker 1: this case in terms of like, I'm not what they're
Speaker 1: claiming I am. She's alleging she doesn't have dementia. She's
Speaker 1: alleging that she can get back on Teva tomorrow. We
Speaker 1: saw the lifetime documentary where it was very hard to
Speaker 1: watch you and I spoke about that too as well.
Speaker 1: Do you think when it comes to Wendy that two
Speaker 1: things can be true at the same time.
Speaker 3: Could she have this diagnosis.
Speaker 1: And could her guardianship be doing the most in terms
Speaker 1: of overprotecting her, her assets and keeping her at bad Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: And that's a great question because I was asked this
Speaker 5: when I was on pixelveon News in New York. I said,
Speaker 5: you know what, I may have an unpopular opinion you guys,
Speaker 5: because I know we are her screaming free Wendy very
Speaker 5: similar reminiscent to what happened with Britney Spears. But I
Speaker 5: must say again, we saw what happened on live television
Speaker 5: when Wendy was not herself, and we also witnessed the
Speaker 5: Lifetime documentary when Wendy was erratic.
Speaker 4: I mean, she just wasn't her. It was a hot mess.
Speaker 5: It was a train wreck to watch and to see
Speaker 5: where she is today when we hear her talking to
Speaker 5: Harvey Livin, when we see her as well on that documentary,
Speaker 5: when we hear her talking on the Breakfast Club with Charlemagne,
Speaker 5: she sounds much better. She doesn't sound like she's has dementia.
Speaker 5: She doesn't sound like she's not in her right mind.
Speaker 5: She sounds like our girl, right, She's not like her
Speaker 5: normal self. And I have to say maybe that is
Speaker 5: because she is where the hell she is right now.
Speaker 5: Obviously something that is working, don't you agree? I mean again,
Speaker 5: that documentary, we saw that she had yes men around her,
Speaker 5: we saw the enablers, we saw I mean, Wendy again
Speaker 5: was open about her alcoholism, and here you got the
Speaker 5: publicist at the bar having a shot a tequila with.
Speaker 4: Her, like, are you serious?
Speaker 5: This is what we call you looking out for our
Speaker 5: queen Wendy.
Speaker 4: No, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So, I honestly it was very upsetting, and I was
Speaker 5: very angry at watching that documentary because again, this is
Speaker 5: someone that's revered, this is someone that we hold at
Speaker 5: high standards.
Speaker 4: This is a boss and the queen of all media.
Speaker 5: So to see her be shot in that light on
Speaker 5: this documentary for the world to see, and to see
Speaker 5: that she's not being protected and loved, it was heartbreaking
Speaker 5: and again I was disappointed. So now to hear where
Speaker 5: she's at today again unpopular opinion, Carlos.
Speaker 4: Something is working. Something's working. I never ahead ry no, no,
Speaker 4: please like I just and listen.
Speaker 5: I know people, whether the loved ones or friends, who
Speaker 5: struggle with alcoholism. Hell, I've been having too many at
Speaker 5: one time, my dam self. And the thing about it
Speaker 5: is family of friends can only do so much. So
Speaker 5: I understand and I want her to see her family.
Speaker 5: But and we'll get it to this later. I'm sure
Speaker 5: you're gonna ask about this, what she said about her
Speaker 5: son on the documentary.
Speaker 4: But it's only so.
Speaker 5: Much family can do, you know, It's only so much.
Speaker 5: It's times where I wish I could allot someone in
Speaker 5: the room and keep them from getting a drink. Alcoholism
Speaker 5: is the worst type of drug, if you ask me,
Speaker 5: because you have to sneak and creep and go see
Speaker 5: like drug dealers to get the crack and get all that.
Speaker 5: It's so easily accessible to go to a liquor store
Speaker 5: and just get alcohol.
Speaker 4: All you got to do is just prove you twenty.
Speaker 5: One and know that man over the other end of
Speaker 5: the counter is not telling you no.
Speaker 4: So alcoholism is a different kind of beast.
Speaker 5: And again we saw that all unfold on that documentary,
Speaker 5: how people was not protecting her and had her best
Speaker 5: interest in her, and I know that the family wants
Speaker 5: to protect her. I believe they don't want her to
Speaker 5: drink obviously, but again, there's only so much you can
Speaker 5: do when it comes to a human being that is
Speaker 5: going to do what they want to do. Again, you
Speaker 5: have to want to get help for yourself first before
Speaker 5: anybody else can try to attempt to help you, because you.
Speaker 4: Can't control what another human being does.
Speaker 5: So I understand the free Wendy, but okay, let's say
Speaker 5: she's quote unquote freed and she's allowed to live in
Speaker 5: Miami with her family. Y'all know that woman is hard hitted, suffering,
Speaker 5: boy hitted. Wendy is a boss. We saw this all
Speaker 5: unfold on documentary. If she wants to go and get
Speaker 5: a drink because unfortunately, you know, we all are attempted
Speaker 5: and backsliding, and you know, I feel like Wendy wants
Speaker 5: to be healthy. But alcoholism is a drug. It's a disease.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, so we have to treat that as such.
Speaker 5: So to your point and to ask you a question, yeah,
Speaker 5: two things could be true at the same time, neither
Speaker 5: one is mutually exclusive. Yes, I feel like I do
Speaker 5: feel like she's getting the help that she needs when
Speaker 5: it comes to her not being easily accessible to getting
Speaker 5: the liquor. But I also feel she needs to be
Speaker 5: around her family. She needs to be around her loved one.
Speaker 5: She needs to be able to breathe, to get some
Speaker 5: vitamin D.
Speaker 4: Honey, and I'm talking about the sun. She needs to
Speaker 4: be able to feel nature, you know, to be locked
Speaker 4: up in a room that's gonna do more harm than good.
Speaker 5: I feel we all know, outside of just eating healthy
Speaker 5: and doing all those things, you have to experience the world.
Speaker 4: You have to go out in life.
Speaker 5: You have to experience nature, get some of that fresh
Speaker 5: air that's gonna kill you sooner than you have me
Speaker 5: locked up in this room preventing me from doing things
Speaker 5: that you say will harm me. So yeah, like I said,
Speaker 5: the two are neutually exclusive. I just think it needs
Speaker 5: to be a better balance on helping Wendy be the
Speaker 5: best Wendy she can be.
Speaker 1: Child we are just getting started. This is reality with
Speaker 1: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into
Speaker 1: the show. I agree with everything you said, and it
Speaker 1: reminds me of Britney Spears, you know, you know, growing
Speaker 1: up with me, I was a Britney Spears stand fas
Speaker 1: yes watching the ball.
Speaker 5: Her performances on VHS tays yeah, I think we have
Speaker 5: have VHS.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will record Brittany Spears on the VMA singing
Speaker 1: I'm a slave for you and like us, I did
Speaker 1: it again. And you know, all of her interviews with
Speaker 1: Barbara Walters Ian Sawyer, I was a Britney stand.
Speaker 4: Strong Brittany, Strong.
Speaker 3: Strong Brittany.
Speaker 1: It's with Diane Sawyer, who to me is the most
Speaker 1: gangster journalists in the world, was asking her questions about
Speaker 1: like justin Timberlake and everybody you know, blaming Brittany for
Speaker 1: being whatever.
Speaker 3: And she's answering Diane Sawyer.
Speaker 1: And she goes strong Britney and she starts crying and
Speaker 1: the cameras cut child because the publisher said, die, you
Speaker 1: tried the girl. But I said that to say, I too,
Speaker 1: am a big, big Britney Spears fan. When Brittany was
Speaker 1: going through her conservativeship, I kept thinking to myself, Okay,
Speaker 1: this sounds excessive.
Speaker 3: If it's true.
Speaker 1: Nobody's in these rooms, right, but if this sounds true,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. If this appears to be true, it's excessive.
Speaker 3: I never thought it was bad. I thought it was excessive, like.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe there's allegedly an abusive power were here, right?
Speaker 1: And then they played in the audio tape of Britney
Speaker 1: Spears and she sounded their articulate and and and just
Speaker 1: like a woman who kind of understood what she was
Speaker 1: going through. Long story show, her fan base and the
Speaker 1: court system and everybody rallied around her.
Speaker 3: And now it's free Britney, and she's freed.
Speaker 1: Let's have her overall conversation because you brought up something
Speaker 1: I don't think I even thought about Britney Spears as
Speaker 1: of today.
Speaker 3: When you look at.
Speaker 1: The behavior in which she promotes on her social media,
Speaker 1: it is drastically different.
Speaker 3: Her behavior today is.
Speaker 1: Drastically different than her behavior when she was under the
Speaker 1: Conservative ship in the hands of her father. Right, she
Speaker 1: was able to perform on stage, memorize the words to sing,
Speaker 1: and and and and all those things. Now, I do
Speaker 1: think a lot of excess of things happened where people
Speaker 1: did abuse their power in many ways. But to your point,
Speaker 1: I think foundationally, a lot of things did work. A
Speaker 1: lot of things may not have worked. A lot of
Speaker 1: things did work. We now see based on our opinion
Speaker 1: about Brittany. As of today, it does appear that nothing
Speaker 1: is working right. So when you talk about Wendy Williams,
Speaker 1: I never thought about this until now. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, she does sound much better than what
Speaker 1: we saw on the on the the documentary on Lifetime,
Speaker 1: plus what she was going through once her show got
Speaker 1: canceled and during that time before the Conservatives Ship guardianship
Speaker 1: even happened. So to your point, two things could be true.
Speaker 1: There could be a lot of help there in terms
Speaker 1: of taking your medication, making sure that we do this
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 3: But there also could be where excessive with this.
Speaker 1: So I want to get into the reason why she
Speaker 1: even has this guardianship. So on Saving Wendy on to
Speaker 1: b they spoke about how everything occurred with this guardianship
Speaker 1: because Wells Fargo contacted the courts froze her Will's Fargo
Speaker 1: account because they felt that a lot of transactions wasn't
Speaker 1: making sense. Additionally, Wendy said this on the documentary again
Speaker 1: Saving Wendy On to Be She said that her son's friend,
Speaker 1: who was a female around her age.
Speaker 3: Pretended to be Wendy to Wells Fargo to get money.
Speaker 1: Allegedly, Wendy said out of her own mouth. Yes, gag
Speaker 1: watched the documentary, so too be. Wendy said that her
Speaker 1: son had a female friend. Wendy said this female friend
Speaker 1: wasn't around her age, and that this female friend pretended
Speaker 1: to be Wendy Williams, and that she pretended to be
Speaker 1: Wendy to will Spargo. So again we have to talk
Speaker 1: about the facts in the situation. This is the fact
Speaker 1: that Wendy Wilmson, stating Wills Fargo, did say in court
Speaker 1: in court documents that they felt it was I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 1: of course, but they're saying that they felt some some
Speaker 1: shady activities were going on. Wendy also said in this
Speaker 1: documentary that her son is not She's my son is
Speaker 1: a good person, but he was a horrible person to me.
Speaker 1: That he took a van of having access to her money.
Speaker 1: It was also revealed in the court documents per her
Speaker 1: son that.
Speaker 3: Allegedly he wanted to rent a boat for a birthday party.
Speaker 1: He said the vote that he was approved to have
Speaker 1: cost like fifteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: I think that's the amount.
Speaker 4: However, I think it was ten thousand.
Speaker 3: Was it ten thousand? Okay?
Speaker 4: Because I fought a clip you sent me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, it was ten thousand. However, the price that
Speaker 1: he paid to rent this vote for this activity, this
Speaker 1: celebration was over one hundred thousand dollars exactly, and allegedly, allegedly,
Speaker 1: her son said that he was told to get that
Speaker 1: a vote by the bank, which sounds weird up in here.
Speaker 1: Again all the leged So that's the reason why we're
Speaker 1: even in this situation, because this is a thing.
Speaker 3: Let's have a real conversation. If there wasn't.
Speaker 1: Any foreign activity happening in this woman's account, Wendy would
Speaker 1: be quote unquote free.
Speaker 4: See what you see what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying when he said out of her own mouth because
Speaker 1: of my son dot dot dot. My son is a
Speaker 1: good person, but he was horrible to me. What do
Speaker 1: you have to say about that?
Speaker 5: I mean again, and this doesn't take away for the
Speaker 5: fact I'm sure he loves his mom. But when you
Speaker 5: bring family involved in money, child, that's like oil and water.
Speaker 5: It just don't mix sometimes, and it's shouldn't. And again,
Speaker 5: he's young, right, so we don't expect him because I
Speaker 5: think initially he was the guardian. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 5: that's why he was able to kind of like do
Speaker 5: what he did. And I also allegedly saw, not allegedly
Speaker 5: saw by I saw allegedly that he took out I
Speaker 5: want to say, over one hundred thousand dollars in uber eats,
Speaker 5: fees or orders.
Speaker 4: Do you remember that too?
Speaker 5: So when we talk about excessive, he's huma excessive when
Speaker 5: it came to her spending. So again, that rained the
Speaker 5: alarm for the bank. And to your point, if it
Speaker 5: wasn't for those type of activities on his part, maybe
Speaker 5: his mother wouldn't be in this.
Speaker 4: Situation today, sadly.
Speaker 5: But I will say this, I believe that it's not
Speaker 5: just his activities by himself because Wendy wasn't in her
Speaker 5: right mind at the time.
Speaker 4: I'm sure she was doing some excessive spending on herself.
Speaker 4: You know. Wendy was out there in the streets free dating.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm sure, and I want to respect the
Speaker 5: family as much as I can, honestly, but this is
Speaker 5: coming out of her own moth. Like you said, he
Speaker 5: wasn't respectful to her and her money. I'm sure it
Speaker 5: wasn't just him. It's what I'm thinking, right, So I
Speaker 5: don't want to put all the weight and the pressure and.
Speaker 4: The blame on that young man.
Speaker 5: I do feel like Wendy needs the wholesome responsibility as
Speaker 5: well in all of this. And I'm sure herself included
Speaker 5: and her son aren't to blame in this alone, you know.
Speaker 5: And I know everyone hates good old Kelvin Williams.
Speaker 1: I saw hims. Calvin Williams is Wendy's ex husband and
Speaker 1: the father of her son, Calvin Jr.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, yeah, Kelvin with the l which we all
Speaker 5: learned that was his lame after the divorce and all that,
Speaker 5: which I thought was interesting. But her ex husband did
Speaker 5: make a post on social media during the release of
Speaker 5: the documentary.
Speaker 4: After the release of.
Speaker 5: The documentary is saying, it's so many hands in this
Speaker 5: pot when it comes to the blame game. You know,
Speaker 5: all of us had a hand in this in the
Speaker 5: demise of Wendy pretty much. And so I took you
Speaker 5: to that, and I really feel like there's some truth
Speaker 5: to that. So I just say that to say I
Speaker 5: don't want to put all the blame on that young man.
Speaker 4: You know, him being.
Speaker 5: Young black, it has access to that amount of money,
Speaker 5: that much money, you know, he's definitely irresponsible. But I
Speaker 5: don't think he was in it alone, is what I'll say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I agree with you. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 3: When you are the child a rich parent, okay, probably.
Speaker 4: Felt entired OneD to it.
Speaker 1: Okay, well let's have a conversation because we're not going
Speaker 1: to also not state the facts of the situation.
Speaker 3: You and our siblings.
Speaker 1: My brain drops know that I have nine siblings, so
Speaker 1: it's ten total. We didn't have a rich parent, but
Speaker 1: we were rich in love, rich rich honey, love, rich girl.
Speaker 1: We grew up rich in love and rich and fund
Speaker 1: like you could not listen. I don't care what anyone says,
Speaker 1: and I do mean this, and I think you can
Speaker 1: agree with me. No amount of money can't replace the
Speaker 1: amount of love and fun we had as children, right, yes,
Speaker 1: like that, super see any sort of shoes that we
Speaker 1: wanted that our father said, you get one pair of
Speaker 1: shoes the whole school year.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Dad, my shoes have holes in it. But
Speaker 3: thank you daddy, I understand. But hey, he loves us.
Speaker 5: Now we grew up with We grew up with a
Speaker 5: lot of love. Absolutely, and that's why these men can't.
Speaker 4: Play with me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I know that's why I might be. You
Speaker 5: know how some people just grew up lack of love.
Speaker 5: Always tell people who grew up with too much love.
Speaker 4: So you know, we didn't. We didn't lack in that department,
Speaker 4: and so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I spart, we grow with too much love. And
Speaker 5: that's why you can't buy me, honey. It has to
Speaker 5: be genuine and you have to really really be a
Speaker 5: sincere person if you want to be in our lives,
Speaker 5: the Kings, the Kangs, honey.
Speaker 1: So all the single listeners who are male, that are
Speaker 1: straight or gay, listen up. Okay, Okay, we got distracted
Speaker 1: for a second.
Speaker 3: Okay, back to Windy Okay, Yes, this is fun. Okay.
Speaker 1: So one thing that we all have to admit is, look,
Speaker 1: if we have rich parents and we have access to millions,
Speaker 1: you would listen. It's nice to say that. And I
Speaker 1: want to be very clear. Her son is young. Her
Speaker 1: son when all of this was happening, her son was
Speaker 1: in college in Miami, so he was around the age
Speaker 1: of nineteen twenty, you know, twenty one. I would love
Speaker 1: to say in nineteen twenty twenty one that I would
Speaker 1: have the best financial habits, you know, if I have
Speaker 1: access to my mother's millions. And that's the reason why
Speaker 1: I don't want the world to just look at Calvin Jr.
Speaker 3: As somebody who was just being shaped to his mom.
Speaker 1: I think, unfortunately, when you look at these child the
Speaker 1: offspring of rich parents, right, I'm not gonna name names,
Speaker 1: but let's go down the list in our heads. You
Speaker 1: look at these rich adults and you see they spoiled ass.
Speaker 3: Kids who don't have a job or a pothopissen, right.
Speaker 1: They spend their daddy's money, flying private, hanging out with
Speaker 1: the socialites.
Speaker 3: And that's that.
Speaker 1: So again, it's it's it's just the nature of.
Speaker 3: Having a rich parent.
Speaker 1: I think unfortunately, in this case, the parent just so
Speaker 1: happened to not be in the best sunse out of mind, right,
Speaker 1: and that's where things sort of fell into the prey
Speaker 1: of people at Wells Fargo thinking something's happening.
Speaker 3: And I want to have a larger conversation to about banks.
Speaker 1: Now, look, I hope all of my listeners know this,
Speaker 1: and some of y'all got money, and y'all do.
Speaker 4: Not.
Speaker 1: All your money needs to go to a bank, baby, Listen.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you should go under your mattress either child.
Speaker 1: But you must understand that banks are government owned essentially,
Speaker 1: and the government is only going to pay you back
Speaker 1: up to the insurance of the money that they'll ensure
Speaker 1: is two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: If you have ten million.
Speaker 1: Dollars in the bank and somebody stole nine million, they're
Speaker 1: not going to pay that back to you. You can
Speaker 1: only get two fifty. Yeah, so banks are only allowed
Speaker 1: legally to ensure upwards of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Wendy's wills Fargo count appears to have had a large
Speaker 1: amount of millions in there, and what's unfortunate. And this
Speaker 1: is the part that did make me cry. And Wendy
Speaker 1: spoke about this in the documentary.
Speaker 3: She said, but it's my money. I worked hard for it.
Speaker 1: And you mean to tell me that this bank has
Speaker 1: the power to not give me my money and has
Speaker 1: the power to assign a guardianship for me to spend
Speaker 1: my own money as a grown woman. The thing with Britney,
Speaker 1: Brittany was still an adult. She was over twenty one,
Speaker 1: but Brittany was still in her twenty So again, Wendy
Speaker 1: is in her fifties right, and has worked her entire
Speaker 1: life to amass these millions, and to know that you
Speaker 1: can't have access to it, I too would be upset.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, yoh, that's a really good point. I honestly
Speaker 5: didn't know that.
Speaker 4: Thanks for breaking that down and dropping gems. Come on, range.
Speaker 3: Drops, Yes, rain drops.
Speaker 1: We are legal analysts over here too.
Speaker 4: No, but yeah, to your point, you're right.
Speaker 5: I mean, if she wants to be frivolous with her funds,
Speaker 5: I guess she's Windy, is right.
Speaker 4: That's her damn right, and that's her damn business. Right.
Speaker 4: It was sad to hear what you just told me,
Speaker 4: which I did not know.
Speaker 5: That her son allegedly brought a woman in, whether it
Speaker 5: was in person, which I think would be weird because
Speaker 5: y'all should know what Wendy looks like, probably over the
Speaker 5: phone for train or pretending to be Wendy in order
Speaker 5: to get some money. Now, I will say this between
Speaker 5: me and you, but you got listeners, not.
Speaker 4: A streets dude, the streets dude talk. Here's the thing too,
Speaker 4: that I feel.
Speaker 5: Bad for Kevin Juniors, because you know, I heard that
Speaker 5: he was struggling financially.
Speaker 4: We have neutral friends, and he was looking for our
Speaker 4: jobs here and there.
Speaker 5: And her and he was selling like sea moss on
Speaker 5: the side to try to make ends meet.
Speaker 4: And to me, that's sad as well.
Speaker 5: When Wendy Wims is your mother, but when her funds
Speaker 5: isn't uh, you know, a way for her to get
Speaker 5: to her funds, then it's like he has to fend
Speaker 5: for self. And I'm sure Wendy didn't want that, that
Speaker 5: still doesn't want that for her son.
Speaker 4: She wants to be able to help him.
Speaker 5: Although he'll grown man and he could get a job, sure,
Speaker 5: but again.
Speaker 4: We didn't grow up with rich prayers.
Speaker 5: His mother is the Wendy Whims And as far as
Speaker 5: what I've heard, he's always been able to get help
Speaker 5: from his mother or his father, whether it's whatever kind
Speaker 5: of help. But right now we talk about financial help, right,
Speaker 5: and supposed to be able to struggle and just to
Speaker 5: you know, live his day to day life and allegedly
Speaker 5: selling sea mass on the side, I mean maybe he
Speaker 5: felt like he had to go through those drastic measures
Speaker 5: just to get some money to put in his pocket.
Speaker 5: But this system, when people say the system is broken,
Speaker 5: I'm in agreeance with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because here's the thing.
Speaker 5: If we're going to talk about this guardianship. Okay, y'all
Speaker 5: saw that it was some shady business going on with
Speaker 5: her funds, with the transactions was a bit drastic. Okay,
Speaker 5: we get that, But this particular guardian, Sabrina Morrissey, needs
Speaker 5: to be investigated because how we spoke about it earlier.
Speaker 5: Can't two things be true? Yeah, so we saw that
Speaker 5: she's doing better, but when it comes to I don't
Speaker 5: know if all guardianships.
Speaker 4: Are created equals the point I'm trying to make.
Speaker 3: Oooh cook, Okay, you know what I'm.
Speaker 4: Trying to say.
Speaker 5: All Right, See all we know which us in the
Speaker 5: public are not privy to everything that's happening with Wendy.
Speaker 5: We don't see the real medical records. We don't see
Speaker 5: her true diagnosis. We don't see her progress and everything
Speaker 5: that she got going on at this living facility. But
Speaker 5: although she looks fabulous on the documentary, you know, I
Speaker 5: saw this and pieces of it, and she sounded amazing
Speaker 5: on the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4: So again we see her doing better.
Speaker 5: But come on now, when it comes to the guardianship,
Speaker 5: I don't know about this woman, Sabrina Morrissey. I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm sure you know loads because you are journey this
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you know loads. Sabrina her guardian.
Speaker 5: You know she's being sued currently from a previous client
Speaker 5: for thirty million dollar for allegedly stealing from him and
Speaker 5: a lot.
Speaker 4: You know a lot of people know this already. So
Speaker 4: this is allegedly happen right now.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys remember that Netflix series
Speaker 5: I Care a Lot. You remember that where there's this
Speaker 5: woman that goes into these homes of the elderly, or
Speaker 5: to these nursing homes or rather as their house and
Speaker 5: befriend them, have these people trust her, and next thing
Speaker 5: you know, she's parting up living.
Speaker 4: Traveling all over the world on their dying.
Speaker 5: Sabrina Morrisey is giving I Care a Lot series on Netflix.
Speaker 4: That's what is giving to me. Now.
Speaker 5: Now again this is alleged. She's being accused of doing
Speaker 5: this before. So why do we think Wendy Williams is
Speaker 5: exempt when she is the Winny Williams and she ain't
Speaker 5: been sued just by this particular that client again allegedly,
Speaker 5: but we know she's being called to sue by A
Speaker 5: and E in Lifetime for this documentary because she felt
Speaker 5: that Winnie was seen in a wrong light and they
Speaker 5: did it without her consent, which doesn't make an your
Speaker 5: sense because you're a guardian, right, so you had to
Speaker 5: sign off on this. So that's why A and E
Speaker 5: is counter suing, saying, no, honey, you're mad at the backlash.
Speaker 5: You don't like the light that you're being seen in,
Speaker 5: and you're mad because people are seeing that this guardianship
Speaker 5: is full of crap and now we see you. And
Speaker 5: so this whole Connor suit with Lifetime and A and
Speaker 5: E against Sabrina Morrissey, I think it's really going to
Speaker 5: be telling as to just giving us more information on
Speaker 5: her in particular as a guardian for Wendy Wims, and
Speaker 5: how the system could be broken because y'all don't have
Speaker 5: the right people looking over the people that really need help.
Speaker 4: And I believe Sabrina Morrissey is one.
Speaker 5: Of those people that are a bad apple in this
Speaker 5: thing we call the justice system.
Speaker 3: The system.
Speaker 4: It's like she's she's someone that really.
Speaker 5: Needs to be investigated, and I think once you start
Speaker 5: plucking away at who she is and what she's done
Speaker 5: in the past and what she's doing with Wendy. Then
Speaker 5: there's going to be more telling not just about her,
Speaker 5: but other people when it comes to these guardianshes and
Speaker 5: these conservative ships, and hopefully eventually something better will be
Speaker 5: done when it comes to these people being in the
Speaker 5: proper hands of people that really have their best interests
Speaker 5: at her. And right now, I don't feel like Wendy
Speaker 5: is in good hands like all State.
Speaker 1: Well, honey, you just set a mouthful and we are
Speaker 1: going to continue to follow this story because listen, a
Speaker 1: lot is happening. Wendy has done more interviews these past
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and she has when she had a
Speaker 1: talk show like when's the press Tour? She did Charlottemain's
Speaker 1: That's Charla Main's a breakfast Club child.
Speaker 4: You gotta give it to it, We gotta give it
Speaker 4: to That's the only reason why peoples that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout to Charlae Bay dj NB just hilarious. And
Speaker 1: Laura she did the Breakfast Club TMZ, Jason Lee's podcast,
Speaker 1: she did Don Lemon's podcast.
Speaker 3: She needs to do reality with the Kings. That mean
Speaker 3: you can talk to her again.
Speaker 4: So this is the thing she need to come back
Speaker 4: on over the hip hop podcast What I Love for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that opportunity, honey, Yes, yes, yes, because
Speaker 1: this is our audience who wants to know more. But
Speaker 1: Jazzy Bell, you have to come back as more developments
Speaker 1: occur in this case because you have the ear to
Speaker 1: the streets when it comes to all things Wendy Williams.
Speaker 1: So let my rain jobs and know where they can
Speaker 1: find you, follow you and support all things Jazzy Bell.
Speaker 4: Yes. Well, first of all, I want to say thanks
Speaker 4: Carlos for having me.
Speaker 5: This was very fun to not just kicky with you,
Speaker 5: but also you know, to break down what is going
Speaker 5: on on with our girl Wendy Williams. And I really
Speaker 5: appreciate that this was fun. And as far as where
Speaker 5: you guys can find me, y'all can find me on
Speaker 5: all social media platforms. It's at jesz Bell TV. That's
Speaker 5: j A z z I E B E l E TV.
Speaker 5: And you can also go to my website jazbeltv dot com.
Speaker 3: Yes, follow her, support her.
Speaker 1: She has an amazing podcast and you can catch her
Speaker 1: on a bunch of entertainment websites as well. And she's
Speaker 1: a Bunify actress, honey, so catch her on a few
Speaker 1: shows coming out this year, so rain drops. Leave me
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Speaker 3: With the King.
Speaker 1: Let me know if y'all want us to continue talking
Speaker 1: about all things Wendy Williams.
Speaker 3: You know I want to switch things up this year.
Speaker 1: I gave Our Kardashian's recap, I'm gonna do Drag Race,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I want to bring back my
Speaker 1: sister Jazzy Bell so that she and I can constantly
Speaker 1: update you guys on all things Wendy.
Speaker 3: Everybody loved her, We all loved her.
Speaker 1: She's beloved by the world, and I want to see
Speaker 1: my girl do well. And I know Jase Bell does
Speaker 1: as well. But let me know what you guys are
Speaker 1: thinking about that too, and I will catch.
Speaker 3: You on the next one.
Speaker 4: Bye.
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