1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Daily Variety, your daily dose of news and 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: analysis for entertainment industry insiders. It's Wednesday, October eighth, twenty 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: twenty five. I'm your host, Cynthia Lyttleton. I am co 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: editor in chief of Variety alongside Ramin Setuda. I'm in 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: LA He's in New York, and Variety has reporters around 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: the world covering the business of entertainment. In today's episode, 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: in our cover story segment, we'll talk with Variety Senior 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: entertainment writer Matt Donnelly about his profile of Jason Blum, 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: the leader of Blumhouse, is the recipient of Variety's first 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: ever Master of Horror Award. And we'll hear from William Earle, 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Variety's executive digital director, who knows the horror genre better 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: than anyone else on the planet. He'll talk about the 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: Horror Impact List that he assembled. He found thirty world 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: beaters in the world of frights and shivers. But before 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: we get to that, here are a few headlines just 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: in this morning that you need to know. Chris Aronson 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: is exiting Paramount Pictures as President of Domestic Theatrical Distribution. 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: He'd been with the studio since twenty nineteen, after working 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: for Fox and MGM. Aaronson's goodbye memo to staff ended 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: with a quote from the band leader of The Titanic. 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: He wrote, to paraphrase Wallace Hartley, it has been a 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: privileged playing with you. There still hope for Heat two. 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: The movie project had been simmering at Warner Brothers. Now 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: it's moving over to Amazon. MGM Studios. Director Michael Mann 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: talked about doing a follow up to the intense nineteen 26 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: ninety five crime thriller in the Variety cover story that 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: ran in August twenty twenty three. Cable operator Charter Communications 28 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: has cut a deal with Comcasts to make the Charter 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: Spectrum News local channels available on Comcast systems in Connecticut, 30 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: New Jersey, Orlando, and Tampa, Florida. This is not a 31 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: big deal on its face, but it's another sign of 32 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: coordination among large cable operators that could help the PayTV 33 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: ecosystem in the long run. Game shows are having a renaissance. 34 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: Netflix has ordered a competition series based on the board 35 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: game Clue. Miss Scarlett, Colonel Mustard, Professor Plum. They're all back. 36 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: I heard they held out for big deals. No word 37 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: yet on a Premiere Day. All of these stories and 38 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: so much more can be found on Variety dot com. 39 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: Right now. Now we turn to conversations with Friday journalists 40 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: about news and trends in show business. In our cover 41 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: story segment, we'll hear from Matt Donnelly about his profile 42 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: of Jason Blum. Matt sat down with the purveyor of 43 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: Blumhouse after the company has logged a harder year than 44 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: usual at the box office. Blum was candid about where 45 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: the company stands, but his enthusiasm is absolutely undimmed. Matt Donnelly, 46 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Senior Entertainment Writer, thank you so much for joining me today. 47 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 48 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk to you about the quality time 49 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: that you spent with Jason Blum, the producer who graces 50 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: our cover and is getting our first ever Horror Impact Award. 51 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: It's impossible not to notice the impact that horror films 52 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: and content in that genre is having across the media spectrum. 53 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: And when we stepped back and think, okay, who has 54 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: done more to move the horror genre forward, to keep 55 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 1: it relevant and keep us always gasping and looking over 56 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: our shoulders, it is Jason Blum and Blumhouse set the 57 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: scene for us as you sat down. 58 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: Jason has a multi floor office complex in Koreatown, which 59 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: is a very bustling neighborhood in central Los Angeles. It's 60 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: not the typical place where Hollywood lays their hat. It's 61 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: not Beverly Hills or Century City with its skyscrapers, or 62 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: on a studio lot. And actually, as I was leaving 63 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: for the day, CIA's managing partner, Richard Lovett, was coming 64 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: in for lunch, and I was very impressed if you 65 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: could command someone as big as Richard to come all 66 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: the way to Koreatown for lunch in the middle of 67 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: the day. But I will say it's an incredible food 68 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: spot as well. Amazing amazing food seym where Jason is. 69 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: Just to buttress the point here, for Richard Lovett driving 70 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: from Century City the cadown, that's an hour commitment, especially 71 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: if you drove them. 72 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: So the Blumhouse office is not as much as a 73 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: shrine as you might think to their legacy. It's very modern, 74 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: but you do see little tokens here and there. There's 75 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: actually a full bust that was made by special effects 76 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: and hair and makeup crew of Jason where I think 77 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: it was used in one of his movies as sort 78 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: of like a random kill. They made a replica body 79 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: of Jason and they sort of slaughtered him along the way, 80 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: as often happens in Blumhouse movies. But it stares out 81 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: from behind the reception desks, so you definitely know it's 82 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: his office. 83 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: As you get right into in the Q and A. 84 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: It's been a leaner twenty twenty five for them. They 85 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: usually have a number of at bats at Fox Office, 86 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: and this year their batting average is a grave. Jason 87 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: is enough of a pro to know that you're going 88 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: to talk about that. How did you find him when 89 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: you went into the tougher stuff that you were talking about. 90 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: Jason is pretty good at owning everything, and that includes 91 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: his successes. You know, Jason has a very elastic face, 92 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: so his smiles are very wide when those corners draw, 93 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: and you can tell when he's not happy about something. 94 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: But I think he's a very energetic guy. Like he 95 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: was wearing yoga pants and a beach T shirt when 96 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: I came in. He was very sort of realistic and 97 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: very awake to the fact that twenty twenty five has 98 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: not been the best. I think the Blumhouse particularly has 99 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: had four back to back missus at the box office. 100 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: Probably the most heartbreaking for him was a sequel to Megan. 101 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: His Ai Killer Doll movie in twenty twenty three, just 102 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: blew the doors off over two hundred million dollar worldwide 103 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: gross on a thirteen million dollar budget. This time around 104 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: this summer, she just didn't rise to the occasion. And 105 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: one of the most candid in parts of the interview too, 106 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: is that, you know, Jason has been around for a while. 107 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: Blumhouse turns fifteen this year, and I think he realizes 108 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: that the landscape is full of well, what do they say, 109 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: Cynthia's inspiration, imitation saturation. So it was a very crowded 110 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: year this year with horror films, most of them Jason's, 111 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: and only two seem to have really worked, which was 112 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: Ryan Kugler Sinners at Warner Brothers and also Zach Creger's 113 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: Weapons at Warner Brothers, which just really captured the zeitgeist. 114 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: Both of the in the awards conversation. But sadly, you know, 115 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: when the market is so oversaturated, I think audience attention 116 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: gets divided and some people get left behind. But he's 117 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: as tenacious as ever he's back to the drawing board 118 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: figuring out how they can recover and sustain. 119 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: You can legitimately say he's somewhat of a victim of 120 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: his own success. Going on fifteen years ago. He pioneered 121 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: a low budget, big return model that has been very 122 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: successful for them. And you know, just the tenacity that 123 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: he shows in that Q and a sure Megan to 124 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: point out in work. But if anybody thinks that Megan 125 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: is going to be gone forever, you do not know 126 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: Jason Blum. And of course we're giving him an award, 127 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: and a few weeks after we announced ours, the Producer's 128 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: Guild of America decided that they were also going to 129 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: recognize him. 130 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: The other thing that really struck me is that Jason 131 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: still finds a lot of joy in what he does. 132 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: You know, I think that in our town, success equates 133 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: to more pressure, and it harkens back to Jason's philosophers 134 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: about making movies. He keeps his budgets as small as 135 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: possible to give his creatives as much freedom. A few 136 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: days after we sat for our interview, he flew to 137 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: a place called Estes Park in Colorado to the Stanley Hotel, 138 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: which was actually the inspiration for the Lodge in the 139 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: Shining where he broke round on what will eventually become 140 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: a Blumhouse museum dedicated to artifacts from Harborvies. This is 141 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: a guy who's still having so much unadulterated joy with 142 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: his work. 143 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: What I loved about the Q and A and that 144 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: it just comes so clear that he was gunning for 145 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: He wanted the rights to remake the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, 146 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 1: did not get them, but he says, I'm still going 147 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: after it. I'll see the next movie and I'll still 148 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: go after it again. He has that kind of tenacity. 149 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: There is a big horror property in his sites. 150 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: Blumhouse, in its history, has done one significant business transaction, 151 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: and that was to merge with James Wand's company Atomic Monster. James, 152 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: of course, was the original director of the movie Saw, 153 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: which has spawned ten theatrical movies via Lionsgate. Huge property. 154 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: So now Blumhouse the saut frenchise, They're going to jump 155 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: back into that world and bring us back more horrifying, 156 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: try to stay alive, pot boiling games. He seems really 157 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: really excited by the prospect. 158 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: Well, I'll be honest with you, Matt, that's probably not 159 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: something I'm going to see, but I have not forgotten. 160 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: One of my favorite Blum productions is the twenty fifteen 161 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: documentary How To Dance in Ohio is HBO documentary. It 162 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: is an amazing story of youth on the autism spectrum 163 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: going through that awkward social process, and it's just beautifully rendered. 164 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: Jason Blum contains multi tudes. I really appreciate you, Matt, 165 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: sitting with him and taking the measure of a really 166 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: important and influential person in our business. Now we'll hear 167 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: from William Earl, Variety's executive Digital director. Bill knows more 168 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: about horror in all its permutations, and I mean all 169 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: of them, than anyone I know, so he was the 170 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: perfect person to assemble our first ever Horror Impact List. 171 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: William Earle, thank you for joining me. Thanks for having 172 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: me by day. You are Variety's executive Digital director. In 173 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: the last couple of years you have gainly taken on 174 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: also being our resident horror expert. You know more about 175 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: the pockets of horror in different parts of the world. 176 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, what is it about the horror 177 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: creative community in Hollywood? What characterizes this group of folks? 178 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: I think is so interesting about the horror community is 179 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: unlike other genres that people like to turn on when 180 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 3: they go home, like a rom com or something like that, 181 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: horror can really be a lifestyle for a lot of 182 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: these creators or journalists that are covering the scene. So 183 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: so many horror fans love the fact that it's about storytelling. First. 184 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: You can sell a horror movie without a big star 185 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: as long as you have a creative concept. Sometimes you 186 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: don't even need a lot of money. I've covered movies 187 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: for Variety that have been big hits that have cost 188 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: literally eight hundred dollars two thousand dollars, and they're just 189 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: made by scrappy people who really love to get scared 190 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 3: and scare people. So I think the creativity mixed with 191 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: the let's make something cool spirit of the creators. 192 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: Are there in your experience? Are there particular skills that 193 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: a person, whether you're a director or a writer, or 194 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: an actor or a cinematographer, any common threads that you 195 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: find in folks that work in horror. 196 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: I find that so many really fantastic indie directors and 197 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: people who are putting great stuff up on the screen. 198 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: They're not forgetting character. They're putting characters on the screen 199 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 3: that you may have met, or if you're watching great 200 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: movies coming out of other countries, people that you haven't 201 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: met in other cultures, but the things that scare them 202 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 3: are similar to you and I, and I think that, 203 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 3: along with so many storytellers want to share a message. 204 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: Art is a process of helping us interpret our lives, 205 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: no question, and horror is definitely part of this. So 206 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: you did the heavy lifting with a number of other 207 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: editors and assembled one of our impact lists, where we 208 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: look at a particular sector and look at who's really 209 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: doing groundbreaking moving the ball forward work in this space. 210 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: You came up with thirty people, and it's a great 211 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: list because you have folks that you would expect, filmmakers 212 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: like Nia da Costa, Zach Kreger who had such an 213 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: impact with weapons, Ryan Kugler who really blazed a fresh 214 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: trail with sinners this year. But you also have people 215 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: like other journalists. You also have a couple that call 216 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: themselves dead Meat that they are the host of a 217 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: YouTube channel and a podcast. You also have film festival 218 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: directors here. You really went deep. Where did you start 219 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: to figure out okay, of all the potential people that 220 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: could be on this list. Where do I start just 221 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: to narrow to the thirty people that you really feel matter. 222 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: That process was very exciting, and I spoke with a 223 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: lot of people in the industry who were adjacent to 224 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: this list, publicists who really work on horror movies expressly 225 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 3: to different directors, different creators, different journalists to get ideas. 226 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 3: One thing I love about this scene is everyone seems 227 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: very committed to lifting up the great stuff. And sure 228 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 3: we all whisper once in a while if there's a stinker, 229 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 3: but it really is about lifting creators up and getting 230 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: excited for finding those treasures, finding those creatives and elevating them. 231 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: Be it on. You know, Dead Meat has a massive 232 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 3: audience on YouTube and through their podcasts today are no 233 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 3: brainers for front facing horror fans that see their stuff often. 234 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: And then, of course, beyond the directors, you have the 235 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: producers like Roy Lee is such a great example of 236 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: while horror fans might not know his name, he has 237 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: been involved with just about every horror movie that's major 238 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: since The Ring came out. 239 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: I just love that variety is a collection of people 240 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: that have such passionate fandom. When you get us all together. Ooh, 241 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: it's intense, but again, no better guide, no better expert, 242 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: So listeners. If you need some chills and frights, head 243 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: right to our issue, which is in print today. It's 244 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: also online. William, thank you for doing all the heavy lifting. 245 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: As we close out today's episode, here's a few things 246 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: we're watching for I Love La, the new comedy series 247 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: from Rachel Sennett. Looks fun. The trailer is out today. 248 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: The show Premierre's November two Variety is producing a digital 249 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: daily today at the View Conference in Torino, Italy. The 250 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: event focuses on the state of the art in visual 251 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: effects and we're getting ready for our ten artisans to 252 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: watch lists that will be released in connection with the 253 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: Savannah Film Festival later this month. Before we go, congrats 254 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: to Sally Habershaw. She's been tapped to head the distribution 255 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: division of Media One. The division has moved from France 256 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: to London. Habershaw previously headed sales for all three Media International. 257 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. This episode was written and reported by 258 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: me Cynthia Littleton, with contributions from Matt Donnelly and William Earle. 259 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: Stick Snick's hick Picks. Please leave us a review at 260 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: the podcast platform of your choice, and please tune in 261 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: tomorrow for another episode of Daily Variety. 262 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: Cynthia, what's your favorite scary movie? 263 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: I saw both The Shining and A Clockwork Orange way 264 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: too young, and I saw them both in South Pasadena 265 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: the Dearly Departed Reality Theater. I had no idea what 266 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: was coming. 267 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: The first movie I ever snuck into was Scream when 268 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: I was about eleven years old, and I got what 269 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: I deserve because I didn't sleep for about a week.