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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is percent vegetarian, but one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent me. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and

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Speaker 1: I am joined by a room failed with heroes overflowing

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Speaker 1: with heroes, heroes here and heroes on the way, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Greg Rosithal and Lindsay Rhodes. What. I'm just

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Speaker 1: glad Sessler's here and not driving to Costa Rica because

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Speaker 1: I third of was under the impression yesterday was that

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Speaker 1: yesterday speak for yourself that you were what happened? I

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Speaker 1: know that, I know that Dan no longer follows me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Tweet the decisionally gotta make U the tweet

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Speaker 1: you're referring to a tweet Lindsay yes made yesterday. He

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Speaker 1: tweeted something like seventy hours and he'd like routed the

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Speaker 1: drive from here to Costa Rica, which can use. Some

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Speaker 1: people that I was with who thought Costa Rica was

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Speaker 1: an island by the way, received that information. They were adults.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna out them, but um, yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: thought you were literally making the seventy hour track to

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Speaker 1: was wondering why you got so much vacation time. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: don't have the vacation time, would not have been able

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Speaker 1: to take the family, would not have gotten clearance to

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Speaker 1: go with the by myself on any level and the

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Speaker 1: employer or the home front. I read this tweet differently.

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Speaker 1: It says roughly seventy hours to drive to Costa Rica

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Speaker 1: and vanish in this scenario, I don't think the families involved.

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Speaker 1: At no point that I think the family was involved.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he wouldn't vanish without his family. I would

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Speaker 1: tell them. I would tell them he loves them. You

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Speaker 1: would tell them, you tell them where you were. I

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Speaker 1: would tell them vanished from his family. That's amazing. At

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Speaker 1: least it's not just a picture of blue. Lindsay, You're

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Speaker 1: a while, Lindsay. Of course, I like to call her

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Speaker 1: the co face of the NFL network. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: You could disagree or agree whatever. It doesn't matter to

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Speaker 1: me because Lindsay, along with Dan Helly, another friend of

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Speaker 1: the show, co host the flagship program of NFL network,

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Speaker 1: Total Access Monday through Saturday, like five o'clock Eastern like

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Speaker 1: We're flying. Uh So Lindsay, uh happy to have her

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Speaker 1: with us today, Big Show, Big what's the last time

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Speaker 1: you were here, Lindsey, It's very long time. It was

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Speaker 1: deep in the off season last it was right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the whole season we went. There's a whole hierarchy. Did

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Speaker 1: I stay away within NFL media, lack of need to

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Speaker 1: be on the show on your part, start a real job.

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Speaker 1: There's a hierarchy, and Lindsay is above us. Lindsay, that

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Speaker 1: is not true. She's true talent. She is on the

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Speaker 1: on the Big Show, as as I alluded to. And

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Speaker 1: during the season it's like we were smart, we did.

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Speaker 1: where we fit in. We're like in the middle. Were

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Speaker 1: the tube these days. Well, we just were listening to

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Speaker 1: for us, and we were referred to as the podcast bozos.

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Speaker 1: There was also a shadowy league figure. I think we

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Speaker 1: because Lindsay hazard ta show. She'll tape live later today

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Speaker 1: this last year to uh free agency kind of in

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Speaker 1: This is now where we look into the darkest timeline

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Speaker 1: maybe more than four, you don't know, but at least

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Speaker 1: go terribly, every worst case scenario. But you know, within limits.

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Speaker 1: It's not like the team is gonna do you know,

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Speaker 1: just stay realistic, like you can go on like Pitch

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Speaker 1: Black midnight. That sounds scary, You can't. The team can't move,

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Speaker 1: let's get to it, Las sid How are you, by

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Speaker 1: to the Minute Live on Wednesday will be too late

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Speaker 1: on every day. Uh this week Up to the Minute,

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Speaker 1: people should watch two pm. We'll be back on Friday,

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Speaker 1: basically the Pacific time specific times. Yeah, none of this

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Speaker 1: that day is seemingly just touring the country. Difference on money.

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Speaker 1: I think he had half a Pro Bowl season and

427
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Speaker 1: then kind of disappeared in the last two months elsewhere

428
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Speaker 1: now and now is visiting the team that he played

429
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Speaker 1: to Costa Rica, which feels weird to pay if only right?

430
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Speaker 1: How do you have a visit though, with the team

431
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 1: that you played for last season? Kristen visited the Packers

432
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: at one point too. I agree, it seems weird. What's changed?

433
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Speaker 1: You know what's here? You know the coaching staff. Hey,

434
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Speaker 1: here's the weight room. Just give three breakfast at the

435
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Speaker 1: sixty nine hours to Costa Rica. Mark. If you're trying

436
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Speaker 1: to think of a memoirs title, if you actually go

437
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: through it, not bad. I will go through if you're

438
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Speaker 1: gronk nice. There's a little pop to uh. In other

439
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: middling linebacker news Man te Teo has found a new

440
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: home with the Saints. After spending the last four years

441
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: and chargers with the Chargers, The former second round pick

442
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 1: agreed to a two year deal with the Saints. Mike

443
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: Garafolo reported uh Teo thirty eight games with the Chargers, tackles,

444
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: a sack and a half, two picks, has dealt with

445
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: some injuries and West again. Uh Teo, He's not gonna

446
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: get anybody excited, and he hasn't really lived up to

447
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: the hype. But the hype was mostly about one of

448
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: the greatest sports scandals of all time. It's never about

449
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: what he could do in this league. It's a perfect

450
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: fit for him to land with the Saints, a coverage

451
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: deficient linebacker who's always burnt right, they always sound. They

452
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: always signed these other linebackers that struggled on other teams,

453
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: like and it never it never works. Teo to me

454
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: is just a good reminder of someone someone said this

455
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 1: recently and it struck me, like, these players that are

456
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Speaker 1: in the draft that are the focus of this draft,

457
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: they will ever been for most of them, they'll never

458
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: be more famous than they are than they are in

459
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: the pre draft process. Even if that tay Out crazy

460
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: story never happened, he never would have been more famous.

461
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: Just coming out of Notre Dame. He was a big name,

462
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, and then most you know, they have careers,

463
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: like Manta Terror, He's just kind of forgotten about after

464
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: a few years. He'll kick around for seven years, make

465
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: a good living and who knows. Um let's move on.

466
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Speaker 1: On Monday show, we had a I would call it

467
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Speaker 1: a spirited discussion about Colin Kaepernick and and why he's

468
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Speaker 1: unemployed and the reasons. Uh that is going on. That's

469
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Speaker 1: a big story around the league right now. And in

470
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Speaker 1: the Mike Freeman Bleacher Report column that we we cited

471
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Speaker 1: during that conversation, UH, one anonymous a f c GM

472
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Speaker 1: had said that some teams are spooked by the idea

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Speaker 1: of Donald Trump tweeting something negative about the team. And UH,

474
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm I'm gonna say maybe not.

475
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: Just a coincidence that now, after that report gained some traction,

476
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Speaker 1: the President opened his mouth during a speech of some kind.

477
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Speaker 1: Your San Francisco quarterback. I'm sure nobody ever heard of that.

478
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: There was an article today that NFL owners don't want

479
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Speaker 1: to pick him up because they don't want to get

480
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: a nasty tweet from Donald Trump. Do you believe that?

481
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Speaker 1: I said, if I remember that one, I'm going to

482
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Speaker 1: report it to the people of Kentucky because they like

483
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 1: it when people actually stand for the American flag, right

484
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Speaker 1: the um Greg First of all, I liked you. You

485
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: you captured it well in your description of when Trump

486
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: first delivered the comment, the way he stood back and

487
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: then just soaked inongratulation of that. He's just like a

488
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,959
Speaker 1: stand up comedian at this point who's only happy when

489
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: he's getting the adulation and cheers in these rallies before

490
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: he has to go home and read you know, everyone

491
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: hammering him in terms of the articles and everything like that.

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Speaker 1: Who is still rallying? Read that? Peter Peter King's gotta

493
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Speaker 1: feel good? Though? Wasn't that from his I think Mike

494
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:17,239
Speaker 1: Freeman anonymous quote to Mike Freeman, and maybe but one

495
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 1: anonymous general manager now being quoted by the president exactly exactly,

496
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Speaker 1: and and you know all that nonsense aside wes you

497
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Speaker 1: actually because it is something people are talking about. You

498
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: went and you watched every snap from Colin Kaepernick uh

499
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Speaker 1: in the season, and what was your takeaway? Well, first

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Speaker 1: of all, I'm fascinated by Colin Kaepernick because I don't

501
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: think anybody truly knows who he is or what he

502
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: is at this point, but he has become like a

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Speaker 1: roor check prism where you see in him what you

504
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 1: want to see and let it reflect reflect your own

505
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: personal agenda, like, I don't know who he is, but

506
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: everybody's got an agenda with Colin Kaepernick right now. On

507
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: the hierarchy of reasons why he does not have an

508
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: NFL team right now, number one is he's not a

509
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Speaker 1: good passer. He lacks anticipate, patient, he lacks touch. If

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00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: you watch their offense last year, in the first couple

511
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: of starts, he tries a few sideline passes down the

512
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 1: field in deep they completely disappear from the Office offense

513
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: for the final two months of the season because Chip

514
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: Kelly knows he can't make those throws. He's never asked

515
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: for the final two months of the season to make

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Speaker 1: a throw outside the numbers to a wide receiver or

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Speaker 1: down the field. So when you see a sixteen to

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Speaker 1: four t D interception ratio, that's what it's reflecting. The

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00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: second reason Colin Kaepernick does not have interest is because

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00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: he's never run an offense outside of the read option

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Speaker 1: successfully in the NFL or in college. And how many

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Speaker 1: NFL offenses run a read option. Now that Chip Kelly's

523
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: at a league somewhat in Carolina, somewhat in Seattle, but

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Speaker 1: nobody's running a base offense. That's a read option. Those

525
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: are the top two reasons. After that you get into

526
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: issues like two thousand fourteen dividing the forty Niners locker room.

527
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Speaker 1: These are things that GM's carey about, and I think

528
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: about fourth or fifth on the list. It's like, I

529
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with the distraction because he's not

530
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Speaker 1: that good of a quarterback. If you want to have

531
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: a fun drinking game, turn on NFL game pass. Take

532
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: a shot every sounds like a Take a shot every

533
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: time Colin Kaepernick opens the game with a third down sack.

534
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: You'll have a nice buzz. If you want to get hammered,

535
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: take a shot every time he takes a third down sack.

536
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: And if you want a useless game, take a shot

537
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: every time he hits a wide receiver for a pass.

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Speaker 1: M I totally agree with your assessment, and I think

539
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: that the thing that's getting lost in this is people

540
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: are looking at it like, oh, they're sixty four quarterbacks,

541
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, in the National Football League, between the starters backups,

542
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: um obviously leaving out the number three is there, But

543
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: and you mean to tell me that there are sixty

544
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: four guys that are better than him. But that's beside

545
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: the point, it's not not trying to bring him into

546
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: your starter right now. What we've seen on the field

547
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years isn't somebody who's proven

548
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: that he can be an NFL starter. Right He's experienced

549
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: success in the past, but these last two years we've

550
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 1: seen a lot of football reasons to not want him

551
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Speaker 1: to start for your team. He was a star of

552
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners. They're one of the worst

553
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: teams in football last year. He couldn't succeed there. So

554
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: if I'm another team, why am I begging him to

555
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: come be my starting quarterback? And if you're looking at

556
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: him as a backup, which you could make the argument

557
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: that he's more physically talented than a lot of these

558
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: other backup options that are getting signed, you're looking at

559
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: a backup that isn't the style of backup that reflects

560
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: the style of the starter. So you've got the Giants

561
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: who are bringing in Gino Smith. You could maybe effectively

562
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: argue that Colin Kaepernick has more upside than Gino Smith

563
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: to me, but Gino Smith is more easily plugged into

564
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: what Eli Manning does you mention offense for that, No,

565
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: there's no way Colin Kaepernis accepting one hundred thousand guaranteed

566
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: like Gino to sit behind the quarterback who never gets injured.

567
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: Kaepernick wouldn't even take the Giants backup job. I mean,

568
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: and this thing does not exist. It's never existed where

569
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: just because another quarterback gets signed before you, that means

570
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: that everybody thinks he's better than you. This is a

571
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: totally new thing. That's not It's Benny Cunningham isn't better

572
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: than Adrian Peterson because he got signed before him. But

573
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 1: there are to rule out that the social issues are

574
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: a factor. I just that is not what I'm saying. No.

575
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: I know you can hold the idea in your head

576
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: that Colin Kaepernick is an uninspiring quarterback, and I still

577
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: appreciate what he's done for activism to shed light on

578
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: this issue. Totally agree. And my my main point is

579
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: just it's it's premature to have the conversation because I

580
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: think he will be a backup in Week one. That's

581
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: the thing is, like, there's all this conversation. I don't

582
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: think this would necessarily be the time period where he

583
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Speaker 1: would have been signed in any offseason. And I think

584
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: when all the chips when the draft happens. I don't

585
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: know when it's going to happen. I think Colin Kaepernick

586
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: will be number two on someone's depth chart in week one.

587
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: So dude's say a lot of talk about nothing. If

588
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: he's not in the league, then then then maybe it's

589
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: a blacklist. Two more points. What do you remember the

590
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: great Ryan Fitzpatrick blackballing of two thousand sixteen. Is Jake

591
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: Cutler getting black balled at? Like what? It's people use

592
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: him for their agenda. And also somebody needs to make

593
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: the point that Colin Kaepernick opted out of his contract,

594
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 1: he would still be with the forty niners right now.

595
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: He would have gotten cut. They would have got him. Well,

596
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: he's the one who did that, but he knew that too.

597
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, this this presumes too that like everybody in

598
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: the league is on board with what Trump is saying

599
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 1: and that they want everybody standing up for the national anthems.

600
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: They don't want to deal with any controversy. There are

601
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people in this league that are in

602
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: positions of power that are incredibly liberal. Our argument was

603
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: that their politics that is true, But the if you

604
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: look at the thirty two owners, that is not the case. Well,

605
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't think the NFL is a monolitht with all

606
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: thirty two teams holding the same view. I think agree

607
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: with us. But you're and everything what you said about

608
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 1: on field true, you just you're you broke it down

609
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: very well. But it's all a bad super Colin Kaepernick,

610
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we can actually say it's five. It's right,

611
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news, all right, A lot

612
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: a lot more to get to today, and uh it

613
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: is now time, and it's you don't like to go

614
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: down this road, but sometimes you just gotta go down

615
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: and check out. What could go wrong with these teams?

616
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: The darkest timeline? Baby? What's wrong with you? People? Does

617
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: like going down this road? Yeah? I mean, Lindsay is gleeful.

618
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: You know you got all this on. You know you're

619
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: used to in total excellent. Every team is great, every

620
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: signing is great. We're friends with all the players, Chase

621
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: time and everybody's having a great time. Friends. It's dark.

622
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: We got to go. We've got those girls. Someone someone's

623
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: got to fill in this dark space. Take me there,

624
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: depress me. How about this? You are an optimistic person, obviously, Uh,

625
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: you can jump in at any point and just be like, hey, listen,

626
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: uh you know, jug heads, here's the reason why that's

627
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: never never gonna have anything you want. I might stick

628
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: with bozos. That seems to be this. You got dweeves,

629
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: dork These guys are dorktions. We've been down this road before. Alright,

630
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: it does seem like this comes up a lot when

631
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: you visit us. Um, all right, here we go. So

632
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick four teams, and Mark, why don't you

633
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: get us going the darkest timeline for the Cincinnati Bengals.

634
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: I think we're talking about what your entire offseason is,

635
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: and it couldn't have started off a whole lot worse

636
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: for the Bengals. You really kind of sit with your

637
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: hands folded. Is Kevin Zeitler, You're Starwright guard disappears to

638
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: the Browns, Andrew Whitworth vanishes to the Rams, and your

639
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: backup plan is Cedrico Bouller and Jake Fisher at tackle,

640
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: and potentially you've got and Andre Smith the ex Bengal

641
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: to resign to come in and try to play a

642
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: guard spot. I think that this is a team that

643
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: last year only six other teams allowed six more sacks

644
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: then the Bengals, they already had issues on the line,

645
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: and you're asking Cedric was bench last year from his

646
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: right tackle spot and now they're moving him over to

647
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: left tackle with very little experience there. And it is

648
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: I cannot think of a more concerning scenario in the

649
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: a f C North than putting Andy Dalton that in

650
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: that situation, Jeremy Hill, I think the stock is down

651
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: on Jeremy hillyre already talking about looking at running backs

652
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: in the draft. Let's say you go do that. Let's

653
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: say Jeremy Hill doesn't rebound, and then on top of it,

654
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: you draft the wrong guy. Let's say you take some

655
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: guy like I don't know, uh, Francisco Waxy from Toledo State.

656
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: Not you don't take the right running back, you take

657
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: the wrong one. He's don't start for you. And now

658
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: I just made him up a J. Green. We all

659
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: like a J. Green. But there's not a lot else

660
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: happening wide receiver. They've settled that position after massive losses

661
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: last offseason free agency, and I look at the Bengals

662
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: that are a consistent team. They were a couple of

663
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: years incredibly talented, but a lot has been chipped away

664
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: you've lost number one. You have three other head coaches

665
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: around the NFL that were once on your staff, and

666
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: it's Marvin Lewis now and a bunch of guys that

667
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: are kind filling in for all the people that are gone.

668
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: And I think this has the makings of a six

669
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: and ten finish if they don't go out and nail

670
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: the draft, they are absolutely dependent on the draft. That

671
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: Mark Well, Marvin Lewis is an idiot, all right, I

672
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: don't know when I said that. I don't think he's

673
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: an idiot. I think though he could be. This could

674
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: be the end for him if they go six into

675
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: Oh now you're getting really because I think I think

676
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: he could make that decision. How many years? How many

677
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: more years do you go through with this? I don't

678
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: think that they would do it to him. He may

679
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: decide to do it and get that extension this year,

680
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: at least not so far, and he was asking for it,

681
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: that's not it seems like that's a dark timeline and

682
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: none of that is like unrealistic. Obviously, six games last year,

683
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: I thought I thought in this basically in December, I

684
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: remember talking about at Cincinnati and I remember thinking like

685
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: it was a bad year. But if they just they

686
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: needed to add some weapons alongside green and effort, and

687
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: they still could we'll see in the draft. But if

688
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: they don't hit on those, if they do, if they

689
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: decide that they can get by with what they have

690
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: in house, I'm excited about that offense, or should you be.

691
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't give up on them yet, though

692
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: I have you won't give up on them, though, Lens,

693
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: will you? Well, you know, I work on a show

694
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: that's very optimistic for an hour a day Friday, seven

695
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: p m. Eastern Sessler in a pretty strong argument there, though,

696
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: if you want to make you know it's bad. When

697
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: Jooe Bernard is posting during the middle of free agency

698
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: to Twitter, just that emoji with the zipped mouth, someone

699
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: else something about um questioning done that? Yeah, he did

700
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: something about what's the plan? Yeah? The plan. They were

701
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: a team that was a little unlucky last year. They

702
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: outscored their opponents, so they're kind of the opposite of

703
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: the Texans and maybe the Lions, who were extremely lucky.

704
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bengals were. They were they only

705
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: won six games. They were not a terrible team. That's

706
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: not helping my argument though, No, I'm just saying they're

707
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: they're off their team and they're worse now. They might

708
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: be a little worse now, but their offensive line is

709
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: much worse now. To me, they have like eight and

710
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: eight talent. They're not terrible talent. Team West, you will

711
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: be talking about the Carolina Panthers, a team that I

712
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: assumed was headed right for the top of the NFC

713
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 1: South again. But there's a lot that could go wrong here,

714
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: starting with Cam Newton, who, as Lindsey pointed out, waited

715
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: too long to have the surgery because he had other

716
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: priorities commitments. What if it's training camp and he's yet

717
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: to take an offseason snap. He's not ready for training

718
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: camp and they're implementing this new offense where he's not

719
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: going to be as much of a run first quarterback.

720
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: They talked about it for January and February, we're gonna

721
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: change the way camp plays. He hasn't been able to

722
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: incorporate that. Then into the offense, they find out they

723
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: missed tech gains speed. When they see that Kelvin Benjamin

724
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: and Delvin Funchis aren't getting open in the draft. They

725
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: know that Jonathan Stewart's on his last legs. The Jets

726
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: take Leonard four Nette before they get a chance to

727
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: and then they're left you know, mcmccaffrey and come off

728
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: the board, and they're left with Francisco Waxy from Toledo

729
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: State at running back. I mean, Francisco is getting a

730
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: lot of plays, get a lot of pop most we've

731
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: ever talked about a college prospect of this podcast, not

732
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: a real person. It's sort of a problem a little

733
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: a little problematic. They find out that Matt Khalil really

734
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: did turn into a pumpkin, and they gave him thirty

735
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: or forty million at left tackle. All this goes wrong

736
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: and then here's the darkest of the darkest timelines. Oh,

737
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: it's getting spooky. Poor Luke Keickley suffers a concussion. Could happen.

738
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: It's football, you could get act that could happen. You've

739
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: asked him to be a horror writer. That told me

740
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: to find the darkest timeline. It wasn't that dark until

741
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: that happened. That was that was That was Mark Sessler dark.

742
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: I don't want it to happen. I like Luke Keickley.

743
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: He's from Cincinnati. You know, he's a good Catholic boy

744
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: from the west side of Cincinnati. You just gave him

745
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: another concussion on Thomas Davis's birthday. Wow, feels wrong, double

746
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: shocked power. Well, that's a certain that's a very dark time,

747
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: and I don't think there's any way Lindsay could U

748
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: fight out of that hole? Let's if she can know?

749
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: It's dark, that's just dark. It's all downhill from here, Carolina.

750
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: I thought that was the purpose of the game. No,

751
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: you nailed it. You know that. You know that we

752
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: don't want let me just me with Mark. You want

753
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: why don't you just why don't you just burn the

754
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: other half of Ron Rivera's house while you're at it? Gosh,

755
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: But we don't want this to happen. We're just simply

756
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 1: pointing out I'd like to see the Panthers win the division.

757
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: What could happen? Because every year everyone thinks they're going

758
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Then every year a good portion in

759
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: the league stuff goes hey, and and every year, and

760
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: every year we have literally six months of shows to

761
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: fill between actual football acts important as well to point

762
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: that out. That's our decision. I'm going to talk about

763
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: a team that, oh man, they really, really bone the

764
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: playoffs when Derek Carr got hurt. What did they do them? Okay,

765
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: the real boning of the playoffs when Derek Carr, like

766
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: a homely metaphor to me because he's very homely, went

767
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: out for the year, the broken leg, you know, and

768
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: I was bummed out about it, But it did serve

769
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: as a reminder of the importance and why Jimmy Garoppolo,

770
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: for instance, might still be on the Patriots, the importance

771
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: of having a quarterback you can depend on if things

772
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: go fu bar and Derek Carr went out for the year,

773
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: Matt mcgloyd and Connor Cook uh were left behind. Connor

774
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: Cook I believe he played in that playoff game. It

775
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: was pretty forgettable. And yes he didn't retrospect. Uh didn't

776
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: obviously didn't do much. Did and we we It's my

777
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: theory that our criticism of him in that playoff game

778
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: might have got us blocked on Twitter from Derek Carr.

779
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: Did wait, you're blocked on Twitter from Derek Carr. All right, Lindsay,

780
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: we gotta talk about this. Let's hands brought it up

781
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: many times on the podcast to my discomfort. So you're

782
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: blocked on Twitter from Derek Carr. This is amazing. Okay,

783
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: so he's like the nicest human being on earth. Count

784
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: down that um I I yeah, I got blocked by

785
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: Derek carrdon We were never given any explanation why. Greg

786
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: sheepishly admitted later that he was also blocked by Derek Carr.

787
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: And I think this is where and we don't know

788
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: why we love him. We think he's a great guy. Yeah,

789
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: he's save somebody from a car wreck every other day,

790
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: perfect for the podcast. Right, he's a hero. He's a hero.

791
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: I have, um, I declare vengeance on people when they

792
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: crossed me. I that's vengeance. I have not declared vengeance

793
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: yet because he keeps on doing things to save people

794
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: and it's me. It's postponing my vengeance. You did declare it,

795
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: but then you wull it back because he saved somebody's

796
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: life or something with vengeance, And then what did you

797
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: do to get blocked? All right? Do you want to

798
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: know the truth? I don't know. We've actually shared this

799
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: on the podcast, but after he broke his leg, this

800
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: is just my theory. I wrote a column in which

801
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: I cursed the football gods for hurting Derek Carr, messing

802
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: up the a f C playoffs Derek Carr very religious man.

803
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: I think I think this is my theory because I didn't.

804
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: Because this is when Dan notice was right after the

805
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: playoff game, and I was at that playoff game tweeting

806
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: a lot about it. I think he was at home.

807
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: He is on record that he didn't go to that

808
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: playoff game. He's watching at home. He's got Twitter open

809
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: while he's watching the playoff game, and Dan and I

810
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: are mate taking pot shots at Connor Cooker, how lousy

811
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: the Raiders are or whatever during what was an incredibly

812
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: depressing playoff game. I'd have to go back and through,

813
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm pretty sure I took some pot shots

814
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: at Connor Cooking whatnot. And He's like, forget these clowns

815
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: going after my boys, black black, You're going to get

816
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: to the bottom of this journalism. You have the power to.

817
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: I know someone who knows him. Part two of this

818
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: is Lindsey works closely with David Carr, older brother of

819
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Is there a way, yes, that you can

820
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: open up this versation with big bro and maybe we

821
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: could broke her a piece here? I think we should

822
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: well broke her a peace treaty. There's one scenario you're

823
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: not remembering here, not considered. Derek Carr might have He

824
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: might have blocked thousands of people that night and have

825
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: no idea who you who you clowns are. Well, I'm

826
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: sure of that, certainly possible. He doesn't follow me, right,

827
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure of that, But that doesn't explain like what

828
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: what we did. Also, this is your theory that I

829
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: was destroying Connor Cook that day. I don't remember doing that.

830
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: You're just working under Jane. You were with us later

831
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: in the day, but that that that afternoon. But the

832
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: greatest thing was some sort of anti radar thing. West

833
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: and I were watching this game at a place called

834
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: Rick's Tavern by the sea, and we made a pack

835
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: to stop tweeting the minute the game started because we

836
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: had bruising us and we were off the radar. Derek

837
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: Carr still loves us, still wants to hear what we

838
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: have to say. We want to hear what he has

839
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: to say. I'm sure you guys have an open dialogue

840
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: with him anyway. So lenz Uh, we gotta get we

841
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 1: gotta get wrong with the show here, but please please

842
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: work with us on this. Broker apiece. Well, okay, are

843
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: you going to abort your darkest timeline for the Raiders

844
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: because that might not help your cause. Maybe that's the

845
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: darkest part of the timeline. That's what's happen. I can't

846
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: you know what, I can't sell this podcast down the river?

847
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 1: Uh to, So I'll good about for Greg, it's fine,

848
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Speaker 1: it's anyway, here we go, here we go. That I

849
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Speaker 1: put the podcast first over my non existent relationship. That

850
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Speaker 1: you have integrity like that, Thank you very much, Lindsay. Alright,

851
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders darkest timeline, they went out and they

852
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: got e J. Manuel And if Connor Cook I mean

853
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: if Derek Carr, if Derek Carr is unable to stay

854
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: healthy because again West, like you pointed out, it's football.

855
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: What are the physical sport? They hit each other and

856
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: after they did they learn now you're injuring him again?

857
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: Did they learn their lesson? You know what? Greg, I

858
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: see what you're trying to do. It's not flattering for you.

859
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: Uh did did did they improve the backup position? Necessarily?

860
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 1: Is Connor Cooking a developed into a real quarterback? Maybe?

861
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: But EJ Manuel are going to be the direct backup

862
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: that's a possibility. Now, I don't think that's a good backups.

863
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: The choice still a problem there, Aim Higher, Raiders West,

864
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: you made the point in our last show, Aim Higher.

865
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: How about this. Everybody's all excited about Marshawn Lynch. We

866
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: saw it on t A yesterday. I've face time with

867
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Speaker 1: Real Rob Lindsey just gritting her teeth, being like, Mike Robinson,

868
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: give me respect, put down your phone. I'm sorry, I'm

869
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: getting yelled at by my bosses. I'm supposed to be working. Sorry.

870
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: I tuned out so that and I could with my

871
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: own credibility, like you were a big fan and there's

872
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: no reason and I haven't heard anything negative come out

873
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: of your mouth. And that's true because I stopped listening

874
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: to you. I was saying that you were angry with

875
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: Real Rob for not paying attention to you on the

876
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: show yesterday, and now I just looked to you and

877
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: you were on the phone not paying anything. Iologize within

878
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: a tious circle. And I wasn't even face timing with

879
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch. He had a much better excuse than I do. Anyway,

880
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: they Raiders get too excited about this Marshawn Lynch thing,

881
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: they go, they go head over heels and they go

882
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: and they get Marshall Lynch. Only Marshall Lynch isn't Marshawn

883
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: Lynch anymore. He doesn't play like he used to play.

884
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: He's in Oakland and he's a little bit distracted, and

885
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: you know, he's you know, he's a little bit old.

886
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: And it just doesn't work. And then it's like, oh,

887
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: that didn't work out. What are we gonna do? We

888
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: didn't bring in anybody else in, so we got Taiwan Jones,

889
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: DeAndre Washington and Jalen Richard? Is that pronounce that chard?

890
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: Let's let's calm down with that depth chart. And then finally,

891
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: this is pretty dark down this Vegas, this Vegas thing.

892
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: It's a distraction. It's a legitimate distraction. We don't know

893
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with the next vote and and if

894
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: this is actually gonna become an issue, but there there

895
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: is this. The Raiders seem really focused on getting out

896
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: of town, and that probably doesn't sit well with one

897
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: of the most boisterous, loud, loyal fan bases in all

898
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: the NFL. At the black Holes could be weird, darkest

899
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: timeline stuff like that did the whole Raiders potentially agreeing

900
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: to move. And we'll hear more about this in the

901
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: coming week in terms of the owner's voting on it,

902
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,959
Speaker 1: and then theoretically plain in Oakland for two more years

903
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: is unprecedented as far as I know, for that long.

904
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: And it's just I think it's gonna be hard on fans,

905
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard on the player, like it's just

906
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: an unstrange situation. Uh, finally, Greg, who were uh we

907
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: got a few minutes left, hit us with a little

908
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: Broncos talk. This needs to be like a very quick

909
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: apocalyptic type scenario. You have five minutes, a meteor is

910
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: headed towards good Show. Now, yikes, Tony Romo is not

911
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: going to the Broncos. I'm convinced of this. Now it's

912
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: Texans or Bust. I think it's gonna be Texans. Both

913
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: sides really want each other, and and and in have

914
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: the money to do it now, and so I'd be stunned.

915
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: If Tony Romo is a member of the Broncos. They're

916
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: not willing to bump up their pay for him. So, okay, quarterbacks,

917
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: the same that that they can maybe live with their

918
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 1: offensive line is where the dark timeline stuff starts. Everyone

919
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: loves John Elway. John Elways bugaboo the last few years

920
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: has not been able to solve this offensive line. Donald

921
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: Stevenson at left tackle, signing Menteick Watson from Oakland to

922
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: play right tackle. We'll see what happens in their draft,

923
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: what they've done that's not enough. Suddenly you got Trevor

924
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: Simeon and or Paxson Lynch playing in a new system.

925
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: Is Trevor Simmeon gonna be as good in this system?

926
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: Learning another offense with Mike McCoy. Good coach, but there's

927
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: gonna be some adjustment period here learning another system. Paxson

928
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: Lynch looked far away from playing last year. He's gonna

929
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: be learning his second offensive system in as many years.

930
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: That's a lot of moving parts. And then the biggest

931
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: part of this dark timeline is the fact that Wade

932
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: Phillips is not there. I don't think that's just a

933
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: thing that can be glossed over. Okay, Joe Woods is there,

934
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: Joe Woods, Wade Phillips, the Joe Woods. You're talking about

935
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: one of the greatest coordinators in history, to Joe Woods.

936
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: And if that defense just gets worse, suddenly, I think

937
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: you've got problems. I think you've got an offense that's

938
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 1: trying to figure its way out. You've got a defense

939
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: that's not quite as dominant. They don't make enough moves

940
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: in the draft. They did not have a good draft

941
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: last year. Uh. And this is a team that's used

942
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: to winning twelve thirteen games a year and they're in

943
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: the toughest division in football, and I think the darkest

944
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: timeline is their last place in the toughest division. That

945
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: last part, I think is the strongest argument too, because

946
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: if Dan's terrible scenario nightmare thing doesn't happen for the Raiders,

947
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: how do you your schedule is going to be an

948
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: absolute It's a first year coach with a non that

949
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: defense kind of had issues against the run last year too.

950
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: It's not the same defense coming off from two years ago.

951
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: And part of it is just expectations. It's almost underrated

952
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 1: how good the Broncos have been just because people think, Okay,

953
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: it was all Peyton Manning. But I mean they they won.

954
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: They had to buy four streight years. Only four teams

955
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: in NFL history have ever done that, and the Broncos

956
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: of this decade are one of them. And now you've

957
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, if this is not a Francis that's gonna

958
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: handle being six and ten very well. I'll go one

959
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: step darker who they don't even need to hit their

960
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: darkest timeline to finish in fourth place in that division.

961
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: They could have like a mediocre average year where not

962
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: a lot goes wrong and they still finish in a

963
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: place that division is insane. And if the Chargers can

964
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: just keep people healthy and largers have playoff talent, they

965
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: had insane injuries these last few years. The Chargers playing

966
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: a little person stadium, it's gonna be raucous. It's gonna

967
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: be intimate, your favorite stadium. They got a little they've

968
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: got a little around in the league, podcast team potential.

969
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: Here are these Chargers. I know we've gone down the road.

970
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: It didn't go well, But the saying there on the shortlist,

971
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: they're on my short you won't be able to sing

972
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: that song anymore because it won't be saying this is

973
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: after years Greg's sticking up for San Diegos. You know,

974
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: football fandom quickly jumps over to the l A Chargers

975
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: as a lot See how it goes around here, there's

976
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: a lot um all right, Okay, why are you looking

977
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: at my I have a quick softball announcement, Dan, what

978
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: is it? Wes? We better get tryout started soon. We

979
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: got an email from the from the Culture Committee starts

980
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: April four. Okay, well, we gotta get off the air

981
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: right now because preparing I'm staring at I'm staring at

982
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: Lindsay's um Twitter, Hey, get off my wire, grab Jesus

983
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: total Pros. Lindsay Rhodes is the host of NFL Total

984
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: Access Monday and Friday, seven pm Eastern. Uh. And you

985
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: can also follow on Twitter at Lindsay And this is

986
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: the important part. Underscore. Underscore. That's why I was there

987
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: because I knew there's something I was wondering. Why. Yeah,

988
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 1: like Peter has my Twitter page up at Mark Sessler

989
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: and it's always it's always like that. You walked by

990
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: his desk, you guys, She tweeted, Uh, Mark is at

991
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler NFL. Colling Wolf is Colling Wolf NFL. You

992
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: want to take a shot at her too? Well, you know,

993
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: I didn't take a shot, but some people are a

994
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: little bit different than you. Dan, Mr fancy pants every

995
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: day That's how he got the name Mr fancy Pants.

996
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: This has been fun. We will not see you again.

997
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: I gotta go, Lenz. It was great to have you.

998
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: Now you go off to do your other job, not

999
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: to me, not the most important job you'll do. You've

1000
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: already knocked that out over the last hour. Thank you

1001
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: for coming by, and uh, best of luck in all

1002
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: future endeavors. But most importantly, I should say, most importantly,

1003
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: it is time to start plotting it out. The broker

1004
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: apiece between the cars. Okay, I'm working on it and

1005
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: around the NFL podcast off of it. Maybe we we're

1006
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: fine with it. We could have David on first. Maybe

1007
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's happening the other ways. Let's exactly.

1008
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 1: It's like, can you come? You should book David see

1009
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: all Broker David as a guest for your podcast. I

1010
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: don't want to. And then you bring David on, and

1011
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: then David calls up Derek and works things out live

1012
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: on the air. It feels like, really good, We don't

1013
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 1: want to ambush you could unlock you on during the show.

1014
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it would. Oh it's such a good

1015
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: podcast about this. I can't, Lenz, your role in this

1016
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: is greasing the skids, Okay, making it clear the two

1017
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: of us are absolutely in good space. Oh yeah, you're fine.

1018
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: You don't have to be in the studio. We'll be

1019
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: in there. Chief people hasn't said anything negative for like

1020
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, so I should help your cause to

1021
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: keep it clear. Derek, the two guys you don't know

1022
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: weren't involved. But the two guys you don't know, we'd

1023
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: be easy to keep tracking. All right, Lens, you have

1024
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: a very important part in this. Then we're counting one. Yeah,

1025
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: I'll make that conversation happen today. Alright, alright, alright, that's it.

1026
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: Exciting news here at the Run the NFL podcast. We

1027
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: will be back Friday with our third show of the week.

1028
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: So thank you to everyone for falling along. Make sure

1029
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: you check us out on the iTunes and leave some

1030
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: stars and comments and we might even read them on

1031
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: the air. Yeah you never know, maybe not, but maybe.

1032
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: Or tweet them to me and I'll retweet them and

1033
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: then we know that Dan will see it. That's true.

1034
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: Lindsay has not tweeted any more. I need more tweets

1035
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:37,959
Speaker 1: from Lindsay. All right, it's time to go creep. She's

1036
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Speaker 1: got me. This is Dan hands Is signing off for

1037
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Speaker 1: Quiet Star The mail Man Lenz The a new money

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Speaker 1: behind the glass to Friday