Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host
Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,
Speaker 1: and today on the show. Some like it cold, some
Speaker 1: like it hot, but what they all have in common
Speaker 1: is living life as a basic tube. That's right. We're
Speaker 1: talking about worms who live in the most extreme places
Speaker 1: on Earth, able to endure temperatures and chemicals that would
Speaker 1: easily kill a poison. Discover this more as we answer
Speaker 1: the angel question, what sorts of activities are scheduled for
Speaker 1: the ice Worm Festival. Joining me today is friend of
Speaker 1: the show, writer for American Dad and the Soarin part
Speaker 1: of Quick Question with Sorn and Daniel Sore and Booie.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Hello everybody, Thank you for the introduction. I'm realizing
Speaker 2: after hearing it, I know I brought this on myself
Speaker 2: because I suggested a worm, but I don't I'm worried
Speaker 2: I'm going to be the worm guy and I don't
Speaker 2: want that title.
Speaker 1: Uh oh, now that you just said warm guy, it's stuck.
Speaker 1: Now that's all I can think of. Sore and Bowie
Speaker 1: worm guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you find another worm that you really like
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, I should have on worm guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, now see you made you You had that
Speaker 1: in your head and you could have kept it just
Speaker 1: to yourself in your brain, but now it's out there
Speaker 1: in the universe and you've made it happen.
Speaker 2: I'm an overshaar. Hi everybody, I'm sore in bowe. I'm
Speaker 2: happy to be here. I'm excited about to talk about
Speaker 2: my favorite animal of all worms.
Speaker 1: Yes, you suggested ice worms, which I gotta admit I
Speaker 1: had actually never heard of. I figured it was a
Speaker 1: worm that lived in ice and go, yeah, gosh, darted.
Speaker 1: I was right about that. Yeah, but these are really
Speaker 1: interesting sorn. Why why did you suggest this? What? What
Speaker 1: do you find interesting about the ice worm?
Speaker 2: I always get excited when we think that there's places
Speaker 2: on Earth that animals can't live and yeah, they're like, nah,
Speaker 2: it's just like carbon based. Ice worms have like a
Speaker 2: very specific temperature in which they can live. And then
Speaker 2: we'll find like something living inside the lava of a
Speaker 2: volcano and we're like, yeah, okay, things can live anywhere,
Speaker 2: and so the ice worms were one of them. Ice
Speaker 2: worms were very exciting to me also because they're kind
Speaker 2: of maybe I'm wrong about this they remember them being
Speaker 2: kind of like snowflakes, and that if you take them
Speaker 2: out of the snow for too long, they just sort
Speaker 2: of melt in your hand.
Speaker 1: Yeap, yep, that you are correct about that. Yes, they
Speaker 1: are really weird and interesting, and indeed they live somewhere
Speaker 1: that it doesn't seem like they should be able to live.
Speaker 1: But also they need a very specific set of parameters
Speaker 1: to be alive. Like they are very much like the
Speaker 1: Frosty the snowman thing where it's like, ah, it gets
Speaker 1: too warm, he dies, which is a horrible thing to
Speaker 1: teach children, but like it also like if they get
Speaker 1: too cold, they also die. They just have this very
Speaker 1: It's like I like it these five degrees of temperature,
Speaker 1: no more, no less, and if it is I will
Speaker 1: just melt or freeze and it it's I feel that though,
Speaker 1: I like I have a very limited temperature range that
Speaker 1: I can tolerate before I feel like passing out because
Speaker 1: it's too warm, or just kind of like stop moving
Speaker 1: because it's too cold.
Speaker 2: No, that makes sense to me too. I do I
Speaker 2: feel that as well. I can definitely tell my house
Speaker 2: I'll be like, I guess I'm also pretty dramatic but
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh my god, I'm freezing. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the problem. It's sixty eight in here or not?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I actually so I'm more sensitive to heat
Speaker 1: that I am too cold. So like if I accidentally
Speaker 1: wear an extra layer that I'm not supposed to be
Speaker 1: wearing outside, I A I actually feel like I'm might
Speaker 1: pass out. I'm like, oh, wow, well I overdid it.
Speaker 1: I wore a sweater I shouldn't have, and now I
Speaker 1: need to sit down and drink some water.
Speaker 2: I'm the same way. I just got back from Tucson,
Speaker 2: where it's just where my wife is from, and anytime
Speaker 2: I go there, that's not the dead of winter. I'm like,
Speaker 2: people should not live here now, it's too hot. This
Speaker 2: is the landscape of hell. Yeah, look at it. It's
Speaker 2: all brown and crusted and all the animals are rust
Speaker 2: colored and starving. Like, this is not where things should live.
Speaker 2: Too hot.
Speaker 1: My mom grew up in Bakersfield, so we would visit
Speaker 1: there every so often, and it's like it reaches over
Speaker 1: one hundred degrees fahrenheit, which for Celsius is over for
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just sit here and see if you can do.
Speaker 1: It forty forty celsiuses.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's good in celsius, Like, what are
Speaker 2: the good celsius?
Speaker 1: H No, thirty is still a little bit warm. I
Speaker 1: think the good celsiuses are in the mid meloat to
Speaker 1: mid twenties.
Speaker 2: That's complicated. Yeah, my system, which isn't by the way, fahrenheit.
Speaker 2: I have my own.
Speaker 1: Yeah bouize and they and they have various precise decimals.
Speaker 1: It's a yeah, it's kind of a math mathematically, but yeah,
Speaker 1: So these worms like to live in the ice. Thus
Speaker 1: that is why they are called ice worms. They are
Speaker 1: a genus of segmented worms. There are actually seventy seven
Speaker 1: species of ice worm found in various habitats of ice
Speaker 1: and snow. And they can complete their whole life cycle
Speaker 1: around zero degrees celsius. And they can even be found
Speaker 1: in glacial ice. So if temperatures get a few degrees
Speaker 1: below zero degrees celsius, they can die. If it goes
Speaker 1: to around forty degrees fahrenheit or four degree celsius, they
Speaker 1: can die. So yeah, they are very very picky, just
Speaker 1: like sorein and I are when it comes to temperatures.
Speaker 1: And they can actually move between ice crystals through the
Speaker 1: ice using tiny hairs on their bodies. Now, I think
Speaker 1: this brings up something where you asked me before we
Speaker 1: started recording if I'd ever seen a close up picture
Speaker 1: of an ice worm, and I was shocked to find
Speaker 1: that no, I hadn't, And I did look at one,
Speaker 1: and it is wonderful. It. I love microscopic photography of
Speaker 1: little creatures because it's always like there's a certain range
Speaker 1: that's sometimes a little cute, like with tartar grades, but
Speaker 1: then you get close enough, it's always horrifying every time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this one it's it's it's like unfair to
Speaker 2: call it a worm when you get up close, because
Speaker 2: it's got tons of little pom poms coming off of it,
Speaker 2: like little arms with fur.
Speaker 1: At the end. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of looks like it's it kind of
Speaker 2: looks like the arms make it look kind of like
Speaker 2: it's got a rib. It's just a rib cage. It
Speaker 2: looks like a skeleton wearing a fur coat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I mean that's fun. Though, it's like, you
Speaker 1: gotta be cold when you're a skeleton, wind goes right
Speaker 1: through you. It kind of makes sense to wear fur coat.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean this actually, you know, have you
Speaker 1: ever seen a Bobbit worm. Yes, it looks kind of
Speaker 1: like a Bobbit worm and uh, which I I mean
Speaker 1: this is hard though, if you haven't seen a Bobbitt warm,
Speaker 1: it's like this is very bobbitwarm mask. Uh. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's like got a bunch of bristles coming
Speaker 1: out of it. It looks like it stuck like hundreds
Speaker 1: of brooms on its sides and they've got just like
Speaker 1: a little like a puff of bristles coming out and
Speaker 1: it uses those to like navigate amongst ice crystals. So
Speaker 1: getting purchased. I mean, if you've been on ice, h's slippery, right,
Speaker 1: am I right? I'm bad. I'm bad at ice. Do
Speaker 1: you know how to ice skate? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well I was born in Colorado, so you're born you're
Speaker 2: handed a bunch of winter skills.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I grew up in southern California. So the
Speaker 1: first time I saw ice, I I cried and uh
Speaker 1: and ran away because it's like it's too smooth and
Speaker 1: it's too cold. But yeah, no I can't. I cannot
Speaker 1: ice skate. I'm bad at it. So it is, it's slippery,
Speaker 1: and so you need some kind of purchase. And these
Speaker 1: little guys have traction such that they can move between
Speaker 1: these ice crystals, and there's that in that way they
Speaker 1: can actually live like inside glaciers, in glacial ice, which
Speaker 1: is kind of a place I would not have thought
Speaker 1: something as delicate as a little warmy could manage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I Here's what I don't understand about them
Speaker 2: is that after doing zero research bomb my own, they
Speaker 2: have exclusively an ice. Nothing grows in ice. It feels like,
Speaker 2: so what are they eating?
Speaker 1: That's a great question. It's because the premise of your
Speaker 1: question is wrong. There is stuff that grows in ice,
Speaker 1: like algae, which basically is the thing that can grow anywhere. Yes,
Speaker 1: so they will eat algae that can grow in the
Speaker 1: ice or on the ice. And yeah, like basically, if
Speaker 1: you've got this is what's so fascinating about extreme environments.
Speaker 1: As long as you got one thing that is hardy
Speaker 1: enough to grow there, then you can have a whole
Speaker 1: food chain, right because like, now things can eat the
Speaker 1: ice worms and get a source of nutrition in these areas.
Speaker 1: So now you've got this whole food chain of supporting life.
Speaker 1: Once you get like just something like algae that manages
Speaker 1: to be like, eh, I can do I could do
Speaker 1: a glacier.
Speaker 2: I could I could set up shop here, I can
Speaker 2: work with that pretty nice spot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And these are like, these are little itty bitty worms.
Speaker 1: They range from being teeny tiny, like a couple of
Speaker 1: centimeters long and as thin as a hair to like
Speaker 1: a couple inches or sixty millimeters long and about like
Speaker 1: zero point one inch or two point five millimeters thick.
Speaker 1: So they're like they're visible to the naked eye obviously,
Speaker 1: and you can pick them up and watch them melt
Speaker 1: in your hand and laugh and laugh. Oh man, but
Speaker 1: yeah they are. But they're small. They're small. They just
Speaker 1: look very delicate, and it's it's hard to believe that
Speaker 1: they can survive such rugged temperatures.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, it's crazy that there's their structural stability
Speaker 2: is dependent on being almost frozen, nearly frozen. Like it's
Speaker 2: like that you pick it up and your body temperature
Speaker 2: is such that this animal turns into liquid form.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a living popsicle.
Speaker 2: That's so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, you know, if there were things
Speaker 1: that lived in the sun, they'd probably view us with
Speaker 1: the same amazement of like, wow, can't even get close
Speaker 1: to the sun without turning into vapor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the other end of the element spectrum. Uh man,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of, like, yeah, what the equivalent
Speaker 2: would be on the other end, Like if there's something
Speaker 2: that just turns to powdery dust as soon as it
Speaker 2: gets in the sup But.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think that it is. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's it is one of those things where it's so
Speaker 1: highly specialized. There are a few species of animals that
Speaker 1: are like this. They're often called like indicator species because
Speaker 1: they can indicate that, say, the environment is changing or
Speaker 1: the temperature is changing, because their population levels will rapidly
Speaker 1: fluctuate if there is something going on with the temperature.
Speaker 1: I think another one is it might be the pika.
Speaker 2: Oh, we talked about the pika.
Speaker 1: We did talk about the pika.
Speaker 2: You and I went down memory row. Oh, that's right
Speaker 2: about my upbringing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember. Yeah, we did talk about pikas.
Speaker 2: Before, around this time during Easter, that's.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, because we talked about alternative bunnies. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: pikas are much cuter, arguably, I mean, these worms are
Speaker 1: pretty cute though, look at their little cavernous faces and bristles.
Speaker 1: But like the Pika is another indicator species who uh
Speaker 1: dies from heat exhaustion if their temperature is increased just
Speaker 1: a little bit. So, yeah, there are species like this
Speaker 1: that are very sensitive have a very specialized range because
Speaker 1: for so long, like the temperatures were relatively stable, and
Speaker 1: so these animals will evolve to kind of fit this
Speaker 1: very specific niche and they just don't expect to have
Speaker 1: someone show up with like a hair dryer and blow
Speaker 1: it on them, or you know, pollute the planet until
Speaker 1: we get greenhouse gasses.
Speaker 2: Why does it have such a gaping mouth? Is that
Speaker 2: the only way to eat algae?
Speaker 1: You just gotta I mean, you know, I I the
Speaker 1: short answers, I'm not sure, but the long answer is
Speaker 1: I think it is to be able to scoop up algae. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's like as a tube. Everything on Earth, though,
Speaker 1: is essentially a tube. We're tubes, just with extra details.
Speaker 2: I guess that's why I appreciate worm so much. That
Speaker 2: I remember in high school learning the tube within a
Speaker 2: tube system and being like, ah, that makes sense to me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we should all just beIN that. Why did we advance
Speaker 2: beyond that? That was that was a.
Speaker 1: Great We are still essentially tubes, right, like there's a
Speaker 1: direct line from your mouth to your butthole. It is.
Speaker 1: We are essentially tubes, and we kind of start out
Speaker 1: as tubes, and that's you know, we just we are
Speaker 1: just highly detailed tubes. To think about that way.
Speaker 2: It certainly keeps you humble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get too hoty, Just remember you're your tube
Speaker 1: with accessories.
Speaker 2: I guess I'd prefer it that way. I would prefer
Speaker 2: that that waste comes out a different place than than
Speaker 2: all the meals go in. Yeah, of course, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: stick with it.
Speaker 1: Tubes are a great design. That's why we see so
Speaker 1: many of them in nature. But ice worms love glaciers
Speaker 1: so much that you can find around five billion ice
Speaker 1: worms on just one glacier, which is a lot.
Speaker 2: Wait a second, So if I'm hiking around let's say Antarctica,
Speaker 2: is that is that what place with them?
Speaker 1: Well, you could even be closer. You could be in
Speaker 1: Mount Rainier, Washington.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's say I tripped them mount Rainier and I'm
Speaker 2: hiking and I don't know about these yet, and I'm
Speaker 2: hiking and hiking, and all of a sudden I get
Speaker 2: to the snowfield and he's just littered with like the worms. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that I would be terrified.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I shared a picture with it. You
Speaker 1: can see like you can sometimes it just looks like
Speaker 1: the snow is sort of speckled with little worms. It
Speaker 1: kind of looks like, I don't know, like tiny twigs
Speaker 1: or something or or something growing there. But no, it's
Speaker 1: little worms.
Speaker 2: See it all moving. I would be I'd leave, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't get to the top.
Speaker 1: I mean, ice worm researchers are very excited about it,
Speaker 1: and they there's an ice worm researcher named Scott Hoddling
Speaker 1: who told NPR, quote, if you were going to put
Speaker 1: a biological mascot on the glaciers of the Northwest, it's
Speaker 1: an ice worm. And he complains that the visitors Center
Speaker 1: near Paradise Glacier in Mount Rainier, Washington has all sorts
Speaker 1: of stuff on like other wildlife, but quote, there is
Speaker 1: somehow nothing about ice worms, and it is a source
Speaker 1: of fri stration for me. So there are ice worm
Speaker 1: fans who are upset that ice worms are not getting
Speaker 1: the attention they deserve.
Speaker 2: This poor guy, I mean, he's not championing a winning cause.
Speaker 2: Never gonna be happy because no one's gonna get excited
Speaker 2: about ice worms except us. You're wrong, other people who
Speaker 2: are super excited.
Speaker 1: There's an ice worm festival.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh oh, what a sad little town. Who's doing that?
Speaker 1: This is the Cordova ice Worm Festival, held every year
Speaker 1: in Alaska, Alaska, where you can enjoy ice worm themed
Speaker 1: challenges an ice the ice worm thing, haystack trail thing,
Speaker 1: ice worm basketball, and ice worm volleyball.
Speaker 2: Those things?
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 2: Just snow snow volleyball and snow basketball.
Speaker 1: I mean I think like the volleyball is man out
Speaker 1: of a ball ice worms. No it's not. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's probably a normal volleyball. I wouldn't want a volleyball
Speaker 1: made out of ice worms because that's mean to the
Speaker 1: ice worms.
Speaker 2: What Alaska?
Speaker 1: So they just what do they?
Speaker 2: I mean? Nothing up there.
Speaker 1: They've got polar bears and cold and so I'd like
Speaker 1: to see you come up with a way to spend
Speaker 1: your time. But yeah. The ice Worm Festival started in
Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties and featured a giant ice worm mascot.
Speaker 1: It's like a row of people, basically like a long
Speaker 1: line of people, and the person in front has like
Speaker 1: a little ice worm head that's just like a little
Speaker 1: smiley face and then a bunch of people behind them
Speaker 1: in a long line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you picture like a Chinese dragon, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just like that, except it's a it's a very cartoonish
Speaker 2: looking worm. They didn't bother to go for any of
Speaker 2: the specificity that makes the worm interesting to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't do like the microscopic photography version of
Speaker 1: it with terrifying bristles and just this gaping mall.
Speaker 2: No, they gave this one earmuffs and blush too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's not faithful to the actual worm.
Speaker 2: Well good for them, I'm glad they have their own
Speaker 2: little thing. I grew up in a town that had
Speaker 2: potato days, so like, I know what it's like to
Speaker 2: have a bolder festival in Colorado. Yeah. So Colorado where
Speaker 2: I grew up, in the Mountains of Colorado, is really
Speaker 2: great for growing potatoes. And for a long time that
Speaker 2: area was producing more potatoes than all of Idaho across
Speaker 2: the US. And so it's just like train cars coming
Speaker 2: out of this area called the Rolling Fork Valley filled
Speaker 2: with minerals are like so silver and gold and coal
Speaker 2: and stuff, and then also potatoes just train cars filled
Speaker 2: with potatoes going all over the world. And they even
Speaker 2: had like their own type of potato there called the
Speaker 2: McClure that was one of the most famous potatoes in
Speaker 2: their early nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And I know all this because I had potato days
Speaker 2: growing up and it was a and I remember as
Speaker 2: a kid being like, uh, what are we doing. Let's
Speaker 2: just there's so many other cool things around us, Like
Speaker 2: let's just celebrate something else.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's tough on a kid. You see,
Speaker 1: like other places, you know, with like hey, our state
Speaker 1: is known for our cool snakes, or we've got oranges,
Speaker 1: and it's like we got potatoes.
Speaker 2: California put a bear on their flag. You can just
Speaker 2: do these things.
Speaker 1: We did have a in San Diego. We had a
Speaker 1: Grunion Run, which is like there are these little fish
Speaker 1: things that breed on the beach, but they come up
Speaker 1: near the surface of the beach to breathe and you're
Speaker 1: like on the shoreline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: And then you can like go along and like collect
Speaker 1: them because like once they breed, they kind of just die.
Speaker 1: So you are allowed to go along the shoreline and
Speaker 1: just dig up and pick up these like dying sexed
Speaker 1: out fish, and that was I never did it because
Speaker 1: I thought of the smell and then decided, no, oh, they're.
Speaker 2: Not a fun looking fish either.
Speaker 1: They're sort of they're a phallic fish for sure. They're
Speaker 1: a they're they're a tube black fish. We've we come
Speaker 1: back to tubes, and we're back. We always returned to tubes.
Speaker 2: Watching people walk through it is really unnerving as well.
Speaker 2: I'm done at the Grunian Festival.
Speaker 1: Imagine the foot feel if you like accidentally step on one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not no like that is a like if you
Speaker 1: if you have walked on the beach barefoot and then
Speaker 1: you've ever stepped on something squidgy. It's not like you're
Speaker 1: not like, oh great, I like this feeling. I'm excited
Speaker 1: to find out what it was.
Speaker 2: Right, let me let me dig in a little deeper
Speaker 2: on that. That was delicious. That felt great on my
Speaker 2: bald toe.
Speaker 1: So we talked about a worm who likes it cold.
Speaker 1: In fact, likes it cold so much it will melt
Speaker 1: in your mouth, not in your hand. Actually it melts
Speaker 1: both in your hand and your mouth. Anyways, now we're
Speaker 1: talking about a worm who likes it a bit toastier.
Speaker 1: Likes it a bit warmer. It's called the Pompeii worm.
Speaker 2: I bet I could guess where this worm lives.
Speaker 1: It's I think it's actually kind of a misnomer. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think it really like lives in Pompeii. I
Speaker 1: think it's just because well, I'm gonna apologize for the
Speaker 1: biologist who named this.
Speaker 2: On his behalf.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder why why is it? I mean it's
Speaker 1: just like, uh, it's just so it lives in the
Speaker 1: Pacific Ocean.
Speaker 2: What, Yeah, this thing should live in a volcano.
Speaker 1: Yeah you would think so, right, but it kind of
Speaker 1: does in a way. So basically what these guys look like.
Speaker 1: They look like these colorful pink or green hairy worms
Speaker 1: with horrible face tentacles. They are not microscopic. You could
Speaker 1: comfortably hold one in your hand.
Speaker 2: They grow well, well I don't know why he was
Speaker 2: doing it comfortably.
Speaker 1: Soothingly, like calmly, uh and meditatively. You could hold one
Speaker 1: of these. They grow up to around five inches or
Speaker 1: thirteen centimeters. So yeah, you know, it's like it's like
Speaker 1: a solid guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a pet.
Speaker 1: This is like.
Speaker 2: I thought it's so hideous.
Speaker 1: It's well, it's fluffy. You could say it's fluffy.
Speaker 2: You know what, it looks like, it's got this is
Speaker 2: I feel like stranger things when they made the mouth
Speaker 2: that the mouths of oh yeah whatever that gorgon or whatever.
Speaker 1: The find Yeah, the dodecahedron I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I feel like they stole from this thing it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: If you were to start at the tail and work up,
Speaker 2: you'd be like, okay, okay, what sort of fluffy animal
Speaker 2: is this? And then the tail just doesn't end and
Speaker 2: you get to head and it's hideous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so their bodies are covered in what looks
Speaker 1: like sort of a fine hair, and then their heads
Speaker 1: are like, it looks like a flower, but it's tentacles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got an anemone vibe to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does a little bit, doesn't it. So these
Speaker 1: guys are actually a polykeet worm found where else but
Speaker 1: the hot hydrothermal vents at the bottom of the ocean.
Speaker 1: So they live in these sort of naturally forming tubes
Speaker 1: near the hydrothermal vents where they're what's.
Speaker 2: Up, tubes within tubes within tubes, tubes.
Speaker 1: We always get back to tubes. Uh, it's tubes tubes
Speaker 1: in tubes forever. I think that's in physics as well. Essentially,
Speaker 1: we're probably in a tube in the universe right now,
Speaker 1: just like these worms are in tubes near hydrothermal vents,
Speaker 1: which are themselves also tubes. Anyways, they're butts indoor temperatures
Speaker 1: of one hundred and seventy six degrees fahrenheit or eighty
Speaker 1: degrees celsius, which is now I like a toasty butt,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's nice when you, like, say you
Speaker 1: sit in a chair where someone's recently sat in, You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is nice, this was warmed up for me. But
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy six degrees fahrenheit is a little
Speaker 1: bit a lot of heat for the butt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just doing the quick calculation to booiz. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it is too hot.
Speaker 1: It is one in one fourth point three booies. So
Speaker 1: their heads actually face outwards and are at a much
Speaker 1: nicer area of water that's only around seventy two degrees
Speaker 1: fahrenheit or twenty two degrees celsius, and that is like,
Speaker 1: that's a friendly temperature for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds nice. That's how's it get there?
Speaker 1: That quick? Yeah, it's like that well, because so in
Speaker 1: these the near these vents, right, you're at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the ocean, and the water is very cold because
Speaker 1: it gets no sunlight, and so right next to these
Speaker 1: vents that it's extremely extremely hot. And then as it
Speaker 1: rapidly cools down as you get further away from the vent,
Speaker 1: I see, okay, which is actually key to things being
Speaker 1: able to survive near these vents because you have like
Speaker 1: this zone near the vents that goes from being basically
Speaker 1: inhospitable to being like, eh, it' sor right, that's deefit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but their butts are in an area that
Speaker 1: is just ridiculously hot, and then researchers wanted to test
Speaker 1: their limits. They can survive temperatures up to two hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty one degrees fahrenheit or one hundred and five
Speaker 1: degrees celsius, which makes them the second toughest animal when
Speaker 1: it comes to heat resistance. Can you guess the toughest
Speaker 1: animal when it comes to heat resistance.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: It is the.
Speaker 2: Kangaroo rat.
Speaker 1: No, it is the tartar grade. So tartar grade.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, those indestructible little things.
Speaker 1: They are, yes, there they are. They look like a microbe,
Speaker 1: but they are actually microscopic animal and they are virtually indestructible.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so the fact that these Pompeii worms are
Speaker 1: almost as indestructible as these tartar grades, and yet they
Speaker 1: are large and squishy, it's it's interesting. So how do
Speaker 1: they have such tough butts? Well, researchers think that they
Speaker 1: may use bacteria as a heat resistant coat. Remember earlier
Speaker 1: where you were like, it's like as if a skeleton
Speaker 1: was wearing a fur coat. Of that picture of the
Speaker 1: ice worm. This is like if you're wearing a coat
Speaker 1: made out of bacteria. Uh, and that is helping you
Speaker 1: survive extreme heat. So all that fur or hair that's
Speaker 1: on their bodies, that's just strands of bacteria. Oh good, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're stinky little guys bacteria shield Oh yeah yeah. It
Speaker 1: doesn't like like make you want to pet them. Just
Speaker 1: get right in there, scratch all that nice fur, all
Speaker 1: that bacteria. Fir.
Speaker 2: I want to take a cleraton and just put my
Speaker 2: face right in there fur.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give a little kiss. So the worm secretes a
Speaker 1: mucus that attracts and feeds the bacteria. Oh god, the
Speaker 1: world is either tubes or mucus. I'm sorry, and usually
Speaker 1: tubes filled with mucus.
Speaker 2: It's such a mistake. Like I just think about the
Speaker 2: world differently after every time I learned them enough about nature,
Speaker 2: No wonder, we all tried to escape it.
Speaker 1: No wonder.
Speaker 2: We went to homes and we went the direction we did,
Speaker 2: put soles on our shoes, like we have to get
Speaker 2: away from this.
Speaker 1: This is. We encountered just yet another mucus filled tube,
Speaker 1: and we're like, that's it, that's it, We're shutting it
Speaker 1: all down. I hate this.
Speaker 2: I hate that it has to that this worm attracts
Speaker 2: a bacteria to keep it safe from extreme temperatures.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The bacteria like grows in these strands that look
Speaker 1: like fur. Yeah, oh my god. So the bacteria is
Speaker 1: thought to both shield the worm from intense heat and
Speaker 1: maybe help the worm feed. Now, I don't think it
Speaker 1: directly eats the bacteria that is on its own body,
Speaker 1: because it needs that for the heat protection. But like
Speaker 1: when I was reading about it, there's just this vague
Speaker 1: sort of reference of like it may help it feed,
Speaker 1: and it's like how why, And then it's just like, huh,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it does.
Speaker 3: SOMETHINGED guess, but they do all also eat bacteria using
Speaker 3: feeding tentacles that come out of their face, so like
Speaker 3: these long, sticky strands that they shoot out and just
Speaker 3: kind of like, you know, suck up.
Speaker 1: Bacteria on these filaments. So that's nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's somewhat sympathetic, only because have you ever tried
Speaker 2: to be in a natural hot springs in a river before? No? I?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I get like I get hives if I
Speaker 1: sit in the wrong hot tub. So I have allergic
Speaker 1: reactions to fung guy that most people don't even notice,
Speaker 1: and for me, somehow it gets on my body and
Speaker 1: then I just kind of grow spots.
Speaker 2: You're like our canary species or that.
Speaker 1: A pico or an indicator speci for fungus. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so no, no, I have never nat you.
Speaker 2: In Colorado. They occur in rivers, and in those rivers
Speaker 2: does all runoff. So it's snow melt that has just
Speaker 2: recently melted, so the water is barely below freezing as
Speaker 2: it's coming down the river. And then there's a hot
Speaker 2: spring somewhere there, and that water coming out of the
Speaker 2: hot springs is blisteringly hot, and so you have to
Speaker 2: figure out if you want to go try to enjoy
Speaker 2: one of these. You've got to figure out how to
Speaker 2: get the right rocks in the right area to just
Speaker 2: filter in enough of the river water that it immediately
Speaker 2: cools the blisteringly hot hot spring and then you can
Speaker 2: kind of get like a nice temperature going in this
Speaker 2: one section of the river, and it's very pleasant, but
Speaker 2: it still smells deeply like sulfur. So I don't know
Speaker 2: why we used to do this now that I'm describing it,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is that we have showers at home.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we try to do this all the time,
Speaker 2: and it gets to the point where, like you, you
Speaker 2: can't tell anymore whether what you're feeling is intense cold
Speaker 2: or intense heat.
Speaker 1: Oh that I know, moment, Yeah, that's that feeling.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds horrible. It's interesting you mentioned sulfur. Hold
Speaker 1: on to that thought. Well, we take a quick break,
Speaker 1: so we are back, and have you been thinking about
Speaker 1: sulfur for the like thirty seconds that we've been gone when.
Speaker 2: We sat here in silence for the full ads? Yeah,
Speaker 2: all I did was think of us.
Speaker 1: I said a timer. I was like, this is where
Speaker 1: the ads go. We've got a method, We've got it.
Speaker 2: And then Katie just she says, we'll be right back,
Speaker 2: and then she looks off into the distance and does
Speaker 2: not speak to me. No, we're on video.
Speaker 1: She doesn't speak to me. I'm on standby mode.
Speaker 2: Wait, and then she comes back.
Speaker 1: This is how this is how I get the realistic experience.
Speaker 1: Like if the audience feels like they're the only ones
Speaker 1: who have to listen to ads and like wait patiently
Speaker 1: during that time, that's unfair. There's gotta be some fairness.
Speaker 1: So yeah, sulfur it's not it's not great, right, Like
Speaker 1: the smell isn't good.
Speaker 2: It's rough.
Speaker 1: We there there.
Speaker 2: We have the largest natural hot springs, actual pool in Colorado.
Speaker 2: It's in this place called Glownin Springs. And I used
Speaker 2: to do my I was on swim team and we
Speaker 2: would go there in the morning and do swim team
Speaker 2: in this pool. Oh and throughout the summer, my skin
Speaker 2: just smelled like sulfur.
Speaker 1: Huh. That's interesting. Yeah, like that you would do that
Speaker 1: because it's general Like if it's too sulfuric, Uh, it
Speaker 1: can be you know, not good for the body.
Speaker 2: No, my hair would turn green too.
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's a good sign. That's always healthy. That's
Speaker 1: that's what doctors say. Hair turns green a day keeps
Speaker 1: the doctor away, mostly because we don't want to touch you.
Speaker 2: I was building up bacteria as a protecting you're just.
Speaker 1: Like covered in fur. But yeah, so it's interesting that
Speaker 1: you mention Colorado because there is a famous sulfur cave
Speaker 1: in Steamboat Springs, Colorado that contains a very amazing animal.
Speaker 1: It's another tube. It's a sulfur worm. So a sulfur
Speaker 1: cave is not a good place for a human. It's
Speaker 1: not like a great place for the casual splunker because
Speaker 1: they contain lethal levels of hydrogen sulfide and carbon dioxide.
Speaker 1: So the air is I mean, first of all, the
Speaker 1: smell is bad, like a fart, but then it's a
Speaker 1: fart that kills you.
Speaker 2: This is horrendous. I'm just like looking up other pictures
Speaker 2: of these worms and I and the NPR story says,
Speaker 2: sulfur cave in Colorado home to blood red worm blobs.
Speaker 1: Yep, they look like I don't know, because they're all
Speaker 1: bundled together right in a blob, so they look a
Speaker 1: little bit like a plate of spaghetti. But it's worms.
Speaker 2: And they're red, yeah, deep deep red, almost a brown yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you want to go into one of
Speaker 1: these sulfur caves that these sulfur worm balls live in,
Speaker 1: you have to wear breathing apparatus, and because there are
Speaker 1: also pools of sulfuric acid that can burn your flesh
Speaker 1: off if you stay in it too long, you have
Speaker 1: to wear protective equipment all over your body. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: so there is there are actually only a few sulfur
Speaker 1: caves in the world, and one of them is in
Speaker 1: Steamboat Springs, Colorado. I assume you've never been in this cave,
Speaker 1: despite growing up in Colorado.
Speaker 2: I regretfully haven't. Yeah, I haven't been in this terrible
Speaker 2: cave with these terrible animals.
Speaker 1: You just turned your hair green with sulfur. It's like
Speaker 1: this baby stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm realizing now that, yeah, that's the case. But I
Speaker 2: am I'm thankful that these worms they knew what they
Speaker 2: knew this situation. They knew that they were disgusting and gross,
Speaker 2: and they were like, let's just live somewhere where we're
Speaker 2: out of sight. Yeah, humans don't go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like they didn't expect researchers to try
Speaker 1: to find them, and now we're like ew, gross, and
Speaker 1: they're like, we know, that's why we're in here. Get out.
Speaker 2: We came in here on purpose for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like when I'm sick and snotty and gross
Speaker 1: and then someone comes to my door, maybe there's a delivery,
Speaker 1: maybe there's marketer or something, and it's like, look, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm horror fine to look at, but this is you
Speaker 1: brought this on yourself by coming to my sulfur cave
Speaker 1: and like poking at my writhing mass, which is myself
Speaker 1: of of worms.
Speaker 2: Quite an image you've painted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the cave is full of crystal structures, a huge,
Speaker 1: huge amount of bacteria, and yeah, these balls of brownish pink,
Speaker 1: slimy worms. So uh, researchers, I mean, so researchers are
Speaker 1: interesting because they'll do things that you normally wouldn't do
Speaker 1: because they have some kind of like thirst for knowledge
Speaker 1: or whatever. And so yeah, they go into these highly
Speaker 1: toxic environments and check out the worms. Researchers like David
Speaker 1: Steinmann of the Denver Museum of Nature and Sciences. Uh,
Speaker 1: and they're interested in how the worms live in such
Speaker 1: a toxic environment. Uh. And apparently the worm's blood is
Speaker 1: able to bind to oxygen much better than most animals.
Speaker 1: And I think David Steinman has his quote where he's
Speaker 1: like saying something to the effect of like, yeah, athletes
Speaker 1: would love to have warm blood, which you know is
Speaker 1: one way to say things.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why people go to Colorado to train, right,
Speaker 2: because your blood has to oxygen ate better up there,
Speaker 2: so they even better in these caves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta. I mean it's just like,
Speaker 1: imagine a scandal at the Olympics where you find out
Speaker 1: someone's been juicing with warm blood.
Speaker 2: I think you'd be like, well, good, good work. That's
Speaker 2: a hard thing. You had to go collect those, that's
Speaker 2: not easy. You got to get a whole suit for that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean really, how to extract the blood?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you know, like people carbo load before a
Speaker 1: race by eating a big plate of spaghetti, maybe they
Speaker 1: like blood load by eating a big plate of these
Speaker 1: sulfur worms. You'd probably die, but you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: do it for the gains.
Speaker 2: You gotta do it for the Tour de front. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I've told you, Katie, I don't do
Speaker 2: great with blood. Oh, it's like a phobia of mine.
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's very common, which is comforting. To me,
Speaker 2: it means that maybe we're right, but I get this,
Speaker 2: just like the idea of these little tubes of blood
Speaker 2: is making me ride like maybe in a little bit,
Speaker 2: I'll light down on my floor.
Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry, yeah, no, I mean, well, you know.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I mean this is a little
Speaker 1: bit of a tangent, but it's sort of related to
Speaker 1: human evolution. One of the I will not mention blood
Speaker 1: in detail.
Speaker 2: He it's okay, it's fine.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll mention blood in detail, get to get
Speaker 1: to the viscosity of the blood. No, but yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like the phobia of blood is. One of the theories
Speaker 1: is that if you see blood and you like the
Speaker 1: vasovagel response to blood where you faint, it may be
Speaker 1: a defensive tactic to basically be like, oh, I'm bleeding
Speaker 1: while I'm dead, so you can not bother me anymore.
Speaker 2: Oh it's like to deal with bears.
Speaker 1: Right exactly. And just for some people, like I get
Speaker 1: a I will sometimes have a vasal veagel response not
Speaker 1: to not to blood, but to like being like punctured,
Speaker 1: like with a with a needle, so like not It's
Speaker 1: interesting because it depends on like, uh, if I'm just
Speaker 1: getting like a flu shot, it doesn't matter. But if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna getting like a vena puncture, I can get
Speaker 1: the vasovagel response for some reason. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you just sort of it is a a sort of
Speaker 1: automatic response your body has and you don't have any
Speaker 1: control over it. So it's nothing to be ashamed of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a It's like in clinical settings, it's worse
Speaker 2: for me in the same way like drawing blood, seeing
Speaker 2: a scalpel go into skin and then the blood that
Speaker 2: erupts from that. Yeah, that kind of stuff is uh,
Speaker 2: that's what really does it for me. Emergency situations feels late,
Speaker 2: and I mean emergency outside will hospitle Like out in
Speaker 2: the world, if I saw blood, I think it it
Speaker 2: wouldn't It wouldn't bother me as much as intentional blood. Interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I think that we have we
Speaker 1: have discovered today that these little warmies, these little tubes,
Speaker 1: they are quite a bit more hearty than they seem,
Speaker 1: and they will live anywhere they can possibly find a
Speaker 1: niche or a crevice. Uh, and just like do their thing,
Speaker 1: do their little to be warmy thing. Good.
Speaker 2: Just stay out of my eyesight is all I'm asking
Speaker 2: of these worms, just like be be in these plates,
Speaker 2: stay in these like remote spots where humans aren't supposed
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 1: I'll be even more generous and say, just like stay
Speaker 1: out of my eyeballs, like don't go into my eyes.
Speaker 1: And then you're fine, Like I'll look at you. But
Speaker 1: if you try to get into my vitreous fluid, that's
Speaker 1: where I draw the line. That's my boundary.
Speaker 2: It happens sometimes right with like parasitic worms, like people
Speaker 2: will see it streaming across the eyeball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I watched that documentary too, Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I In general, again, it's interesting. I have a very
Speaker 1: high tolerance for parasites. It's the ones that you can see,
Speaker 1: like the ones where you like see them under people's
Speaker 1: skin that I call it quits. At that point, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: A lot probably where that needle fear calms from. You've
Speaker 2: got this invasive species. That's this invasive thing that's just
Speaker 2: like under your skin and right there, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so before we go, we gotta play a little game.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I remember.
Speaker 1: This is the guests who's squawking mystery animal sound game.
Speaker 1: Every week I play mister Animal sound and you the listener,
Speaker 1: and you the guests, trying to guess who's squawking.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Last week's mister Animal sound HIMT was this this foxy
Speaker 1: little feller loves a banane. That's it's a banana. I
Speaker 1: want it to be clear, I'm saying banana. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying banana in a fun way. Clear.
Speaker 2: It's from the songes.
Speaker 1: All right, look here it is. I'm I I just
Speaker 1: I want to watch this whole video. So again, the
Speaker 1: hint is this foxy little feller loves a banana?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that animal sounds like it's in pure joy.
Speaker 1: What it is?
Speaker 2: It's really enjoying itself. Can I guess what that animal is?
Speaker 1: You can guess what that animal is.
Speaker 2: Fennec fox?
Speaker 1: No, damn it. Congratulations to Grant W, Aaron K and
Speaker 1: joe In who all gets correctly the flying fox. So
Speaker 1: this is a megabat. You were right, Soren that it
Speaker 1: isn't pure bliss though, So you got that right. You
Speaker 1: read the room correctly. It is being petted h and
Speaker 1: it's enjoying. Little head scratches. I'm actually I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you the video because yeah, I it makes me so happy.
Speaker 1: I just want to give you that for an hour
Speaker 1: later whenever you want it, because it is the best video. So,
Speaker 1: the gray headed flying fox is the largest bat in Australia,
Speaker 1: with a wingspan of up to three feet or about
Speaker 1: a meter. They eat pollen, nectar, and fruit, and while
Speaker 1: the banana is not indigenous to Australia and bat rescues,
Speaker 1: they are a popular treat for the bats in their care.
Speaker 1: So baby flying foxes must cling to their mothers, who
Speaker 1: will even fly with a baby attached to them, but
Speaker 1: sometimes the babies will fall off the mother, typically because
Speaker 1: of disease or ticks that we can either the baby
Speaker 1: bat or the mother. And because the gray headed flying
Speaker 1: fox is a vulnerable species in Australia, bat rescuers will
Speaker 1: gather the abandoned baby bats, wrap them in little blankies
Speaker 1: and feed the milk, and when they're older, they'll hand
Speaker 1: feed them fruit just like precious little packages. Have you
Speaker 1: ever seen like a baby bat wrapped in a little
Speaker 1: baby blanket getting feda grape?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's universal. As soon as you
Speaker 2: said that, I was like, oh, yeah, I've seen a
Speaker 2: swaddled bat. Yeah, getting getting fed fruit. That's yeah, exactly
Speaker 2: like something i'd see.
Speaker 1: It's probably a flying fox. So this particular flying fox
Speaker 1: is in the care of a professional Sydney Wildlife bat
Speaker 1: rescuer named Mandy Griffith and was rescued with the intent
Speaker 1: to release, but was too injured and so is now
Speaker 1: a pampered educational bat. So just as a reminder, like,
Speaker 1: don't pet wild bats even I know that sound is
Speaker 1: like the most heavenly cute sound you've ever heard, and
Speaker 1: this is like mean of me to play it and
Speaker 1: then say like, sorry, don't pet them, but it is
Speaker 1: true because they do like you don't want to mess
Speaker 1: with bats in terms of transmitting diseases too and from them,
Speaker 1: and bat rescuers are professional bat handlers who have been
Speaker 1: fully vaccinated to prevent the spread of diseases.
Speaker 2: That freaked me up a little. It feels like an
Speaker 2: inner specie ba interspecies. Viruses are like not a thing
Speaker 2: that's even on my radar. It's like, I think I
Speaker 2: can think of the getting colds from people, but getting
Speaker 2: something from my cat, or like getting something from an
Speaker 2: animal like a frog or something like that, I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh no, wait, they can do that viruses jump from
Speaker 2: one to another.
Speaker 1: I mean there were I don't know if you heard
Speaker 1: about this, but we had a little, a little incident
Speaker 1: a few years ago.
Speaker 2: No, that was creating the lab that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean it's I mean, there's multiple reasons, right, Like,
Speaker 1: because you know it's a wild animal. You don't want
Speaker 1: to like mess with wild animals. They generally don't appreciate
Speaker 1: being pet It's just in this very specific and charming situation,
Speaker 1: this bat was abandoned due to unfortunate circumstances, and it's
Speaker 1: two hundred to be released. So in this very special
Speaker 1: set of circum stances, it's okay for this person to
Speaker 1: pet this bat, and now we all get to enjoy
Speaker 1: it through listening to the bat's delightful little squeaks as
Speaker 1: it's getting scritcheed and scratchyed.
Speaker 2: That's really kind, it's really nice.
Speaker 1: It's I don't know what it is, but baby bat
Speaker 1: videos Like I it's pure serotonin. It's just it's like
Speaker 1: the opposite of getting getting a vena puncture. It's like
Speaker 1: the opposite feeling of the vasovagel response. It's like my
Speaker 1: brain just goes into hyperdrive. Of like being happy with us.
Speaker 2: This is a nice palate cleanser from blood worms in
Speaker 2: a sulfur cave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from being from horrible tubes to cute little bats
Speaker 1: making squeaky noises. Yeah, cu tubes, very very cute, flying,
Speaker 1: cute fluffy tubes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Onto this week's mystery animals sound. The hint if you've
Speaker 1: got happy feet, This is not a sound you want
Speaker 1: to hear?
Speaker 2: Are you allowed to give me? If I asked a question?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is that happening underwater?
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 1: Indeed, there's a free hint for y'alls, thanks to Soren.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do stingrays make a noise? Is that a stingray?
Speaker 1: No? A? Well, you will find out on next episode
Speaker 1: of Creature Feature. If you out there think you know
Speaker 1: who is making this sound, you can write to me
Speaker 1: at Creature Feature Pod at gmail dot com. Soorn, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining me today and talking about
Speaker 1: the wonderful, wild and sometimes just horrible and devastating world
Speaker 1: of worms. Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2: And I've enjoyed this time and I will think about
Speaker 2: how everything is too from now on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you look a little bit a little stricken from
Speaker 1: that realization and to be honest. Uh, where can people
Speaker 1: find you?
Speaker 2: You can find me on Twitter at Soorren Underscore Ltd.
Speaker 2: You can find me on my podcast, which is a
Speaker 2: Quick Question with Sorn and Daniel, which is a podcast
Speaker 2: that I do with Daniel O'Brien who was also from
Speaker 2: Crack where we all grew up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we grew up together in school which was cracked.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Remember remember missus cracked cracked, Missus cracked.
Speaker 2: Look, I like how you gave up on that, and
Speaker 2: you're like, I'll give her a name. No, let's just
Speaker 2: do crack missus craps. No.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to say that. Even that was not
Speaker 1: even intitional. Uh.
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