WEBVTT - THROWBACK INTERVIEW: Voletta Wallace The Notorious B.I.G.'s Mother

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<v Speaker 1>Wake that ass up in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Breakfast Club Morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne the Guy. We

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<v Speaker 3>are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining

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<v Speaker 3>us this morning. We have Miss Valletta Wallace welcome, good morning.

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning.

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<v Speaker 3>And we also have our good friend Wayne sitting in

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<v Speaker 3>the background gray and said he was about to leave,

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<v Speaker 3>but he ain't going nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Way about ow he ain't going nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, brother, I'm blessed, I'm blessed and be a blessed. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, it's a very special thing happening this weekend, the

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductions and

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<v Speaker 5>the late Great Christopher Wallace, the Notorious b I G.

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<v Speaker 5>Will be inducted into the twenty twenty Rock and Roll

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<v Speaker 5>Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, an, So what does that mean to you?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, for me, the mother, of course, I'm very very

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<v Speaker 4>happy about it. I'm related about it. I'm thrilled. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>only sorry it's not here. Yeah, to be a part

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<v Speaker 4>of it. That you know, most of these honorary honor

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<v Speaker 4>honors are going to people who are not here, right,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, but I'm sure he would be thrilled for

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<v Speaker 4>that reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I am thrilled to myself, Wayne, what does it mean

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<v Speaker 2>to you?

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<v Speaker 5>I got to ask you the same question, what does

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<v Speaker 5>it mean to you?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it's it's it's kind of one of

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<v Speaker 1>those bittersweet things. I'm on it. It's he's never been

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<v Speaker 1>able to experience what we've experienced from his fans. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>the accolades came after his passing, right, he was on

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<v Speaker 1>the custom of doing so much. So it's bittersweet for

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<v Speaker 1>me from that standpoint, but I think it's extremely well deserved.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm thankful to the Rock and Roll Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame for, you know, saying acknowledging him for his music

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<v Speaker 1>and his art. And you know, it's been a hard

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<v Speaker 1>more fight over these last you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four years, So yeah, this is it means a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm blessed and I'm thankful and grateful that we

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<v Speaker 1>were able to experience this, and more specifically that Miss

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<v Speaker 1>Wallace was able to be here to witness them.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 6>Miss Wallace, how does it feel that Biggie is celebrated

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<v Speaker 6>so much? Like even to this Day and Brookland. There's

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<v Speaker 6>murals of Biggie everywhere. Every single restaurant you go into,

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<v Speaker 6>there's a painting hanging hanging up of Christopher Wallace on

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<v Speaker 6>the wall. He has his own street and everything. How

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<v Speaker 6>does that feel for you?

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<v Speaker 4>A very proud mother, very proud mother. Sad sometimes when

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<v Speaker 4>I see things that brought tears to my eyes. Once again,

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<v Speaker 4>as I said, He's not here to see these things.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm going to be honest with you, my son

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<v Speaker 4>is being acknowledged in so many entities, so many avenues,

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<v Speaker 4>so many programs. Everywhere you turn, there's a Biggie, there's

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<v Speaker 4>a notorious. There's this I never knew, and I can

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<v Speaker 4>honestly say I never knew that my son was that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to use the word famous. I never knew

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm not a rap model. You know, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know anything about rap music. I've learned over the years,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what it is and how to appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I appreciate it, I really really do. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 4>the young men who are trying, you know, who've done it.

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<v Speaker 4>But that wasn't me because even today I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 4>listen to some of the words what did he say

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<v Speaker 4>or well, you know, when he spoke of a s,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought he was talking about Holloway, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>but no, I know what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, let me ask a question, now where Pepsi just

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<v Speaker 3>released an unreleased freestyle from Big right now? Are there

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<v Speaker 3>are the unreleased records and verses that you guys might

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<v Speaker 3>know of or something like that. Because this was a surprise,

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<v Speaker 3>this was so long ago, it's like, wow, there might

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<v Speaker 3>be some some verses that's still lingering around.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>People are holding on to some of those those jewels.

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<v Speaker 1>We just got to get a hold of it. But

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<v Speaker 1>most of what the actual state controls and has actually

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<v Speaker 1>access to it is what it is. It's you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, It's been exploited. It's been out there

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<v Speaker 1>just Pepsi commercials and you know what I'm saying, in

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<v Speaker 1>the works from ninety seven when it was done, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>deal just couldn't get done. Then he pounds and then

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<v Speaker 1>it just kind of went and enough just continued to

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<v Speaker 1>fight to make sure that you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>that it stayed relevant and the connection with Rob Stone

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<v Speaker 1>over the Cornerstone, him and his team are the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that brought it back to.

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<v Speaker 4>Lights, So you know what I'm saying. And at one

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<v Speaker 4>point we couldn't find that take. Oh wow, at one

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<v Speaker 4>point we couldn't find it.

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<v Speaker 2>Where did y'all find it? Was it at mister C's house?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it at Puff's crib?

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<v Speaker 1>Where was it where they enough had a copy of it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's that's why it sounds so choppy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. It was It's not digitized

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<v Speaker 1>anything along those lines. So it is the actual raw fact.

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<v Speaker 3>Ms.

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<v Speaker 2>Wallace and Wayne.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, as a fan, you know, we sit around

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<v Speaker 5>and we debating the barber shops. When we at the house,

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<v Speaker 5>we talk about the what if You know, it's always

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<v Speaker 5>wonder for the family. How tough for the what ifs?

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<v Speaker 5>When you ask yourself, what if he was here? What

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<v Speaker 5>if he did this? How how tough for the what

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<v Speaker 5>if is for the family.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't tell about the family, but I can I

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<v Speaker 4>can speak about me.

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<v Speaker 1>What if he was here?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I would strangle him. Maybe I would strangle him

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<v Speaker 4>because you know some of the some of his associates,

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<v Speaker 4>I still want to strangle them. But you know, there's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of what ifs, and I know he would

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<v Speaker 4>be a happy guy. I know I would be a

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<v Speaker 4>happy mother because he was a He was a good kid,

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<v Speaker 4>he was a nice, nice person. We thought a lot,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, but the makeup was so beautiful. There's so

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<v Speaker 4>much apologies behind it. And he, you know, his explanation.

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<v Speaker 4>He made me understand what he's trying to do, what

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<v Speaker 4>he was trying to say. I still can't take the profanity,

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<v Speaker 4>still can't. I listen to his music. I listened to

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<v Speaker 4>his music, and I said, Jehovah, please help me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>So the what is maybe it would be still fighting,

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<v Speaker 4>but it would still be my best friend.

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<v Speaker 2>What about you? Wayne?

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<v Speaker 1>The what is for me is more. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>he would have elevated the culture hip hop and generally

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<v Speaker 1>he just had a way of bringing the best out

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<v Speaker 1>of people, forcing him to kind of step up just

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<v Speaker 1>from a lyrical standpoint musically, and I think given the

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<v Speaker 1>dynamics of where we are from a technology standpoint, because

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<v Speaker 1>he was so in tune with everything around him and

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<v Speaker 1>always ahead of the curve, that he would have been

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<v Speaker 1>delving into things that kind of opened himself up to

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<v Speaker 1>allow himself to be what these diets have become today,

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<v Speaker 1>Like to Jay's and the Puffs. But from his perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>in his way, and you know what I'm saying. From

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<v Speaker 1>my standpoint, I think that that in itself is the

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<v Speaker 1>what if that always haunts.

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<v Speaker 6>I love when I hear people with their really good

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<v Speaker 6>and find memories, people who knew Biggie and worked with him.

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<v Speaker 6>I was just talking to Method Man and he was

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<v Speaker 6>talking about how he first got introduced to Biggie and

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<v Speaker 6>how they ended up working together and everything. So what

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<v Speaker 6>are some of your favorite stories to hear about your son.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a variety of them. They're always loving ones, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and they always spoke about his generosity, his kindness, his patience,

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<v Speaker 4>and him wanting to help to make everyone better. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>he wants everyone to have something. He wasn't the kind

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<v Speaker 4>of guy who wants to keep it for himself. He

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<v Speaker 4>was a sharer. He likes to share. And the respect

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<v Speaker 4>that he had for even the friends, their mothers. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>they went all out, you know, Miss Wallace, You know

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<v Speaker 4>he did this for me and he did that for

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<v Speaker 4>me things that I never knew. Did you know that

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<v Speaker 4>he helped me here and he helped me there. I

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<v Speaker 4>know it's in his heart. I know that kindness was there,

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<v Speaker 4>but I've never experienced it. But knowing he wasn't here,

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<v Speaker 4>and to hear them say, oh, miss Wallace, did you

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<v Speaker 4>know in that shop he bought me that chair in

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<v Speaker 4>the barber shop he bought me that chair?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you know he paid my rent for two months?

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<v Speaker 4>You know that that was very touching? Wow, very very touching.

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<v Speaker 5>Wayne, Do you have any stories you can share in

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<v Speaker 5>front of Miss Wallace?

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<v Speaker 2>Any fun stories?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of story point wise, you can get into, Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>You're really thinking of.

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<v Speaker 1>Think of something that I could you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, But most of the stories that I have

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<v Speaker 1>are generally related to justice humor. But I mean remember

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<v Speaker 1>being in a dice game with him one day in

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<v Speaker 1>the whole way of Daddy's house, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there was a bunch of brothers up in there,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, we're not on the snitch game. So

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, he lost, and when

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<v Speaker 1>he lost, he was mad. I mean, oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>he was so mad. And at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>day he put me up in the corner and say, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, I need to hold something

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<v Speaker 1>because I need to come back right. So I told him, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean, No, ain't out of one pain?

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't. I wasn't paying you. So I game we

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<v Speaker 1>needed exactly story. I can't waited. He did not win

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<v Speaker 1>and then told me that I still got to give

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<v Speaker 1>him some more money so he can go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>eat us bus moves?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you get the money back?

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<v Speaker 1>He always had this way of bossing up on you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just, you know, Big was a very humorous guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I called him a gentle giant. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? This big heart took care of everybody and

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<v Speaker 1>and never ever wave it mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just he was miss Wallace even before he became

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<v Speaker 6>became a rapper. Did all the women love him around

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<v Speaker 6>the neighborhood?

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<v Speaker 4>Like? Did he always telephone bill? All these what do

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<v Speaker 4>you call his honey's honey? So many honeys were calling

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<v Speaker 4>that house. I told him, look, honey, you gotta get

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<v Speaker 4>your own phone. I mean, every one you could think of.

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<v Speaker 4>I could tell you a story. One one morning I

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<v Speaker 4>was in my bedroom and I heard someone I told

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<v Speaker 4>this story already, and the person said, well, excuse my

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<v Speaker 4>languages early in the morning, I am not going to

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<v Speaker 4>be your second bitch. Whoa, I'm listening, listening, listening. Then

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<v Speaker 4>after she was gone, I said, come here. I heard

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<v Speaker 4>the conversation. Second honey, she doesn't know she's about the fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you do after something like that? Miss Wallace?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do you hand them? Because I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>Jehovah witness, do you hand him a watch tower? Are

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<v Speaker 2>an awake and say? Read this.

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<v Speaker 4>All over the house on the sofa, he was on

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<v Speaker 4>his floor, he was from the dining room table.

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<v Speaker 5>Alf of my mom used to do to me when

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<v Speaker 5>I used to get in trouble. It would always be

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<v Speaker 5>a watch tower based on whatever the subject was.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Second honey, that's not the second, that's all the fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>Wayne.

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<v Speaker 5>I got a question, how much of your your love

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<v Speaker 5>of hip hop died with Big.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow? For honesty?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>None? Actually what died was big for me was the

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<v Speaker 1>purity of hip hop? Right, but he represented as far

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<v Speaker 1>as the purity is concerned. But hip hop it's in me,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just who I am. It's what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, I grew up in. But in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of dying with him is definitely a purity I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that that has been sustained.

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<v Speaker 3>You know with some some of the states, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they they are very fickle when they sign off on music.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you guys signing off on music? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much say you know what, we allow it? Or

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<v Speaker 3>is it like, no, I gotta hear where it's going.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to hear the song. I gotta hear what

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<v Speaker 3>they're talking about. Like, how do you decide if you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to sign off or not? Is it something like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Miss Waller says, no, too much profanity, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not signing off on that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>How does it work? Well, it's two ways. One she

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<v Speaker 1>does say that a lot, okay, but it is hip hop,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what I'm saying, you have to make

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<v Speaker 1>her understand the business of it. Once you make her

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<v Speaker 1>understand the busines of it, then she's okay, I'm okay

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<v Speaker 1>with it. You can go ahead and improve it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing that's come out in the last twenty three years

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<v Speaker 1>that has not been approved by as well. Her is

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<v Speaker 1>have touched to everything. Everything has touched her ears. She's

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<v Speaker 1>in every element of the business. So from that standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, I think that it lends

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<v Speaker 1>us the opportunity to have the sensibilities to do good business.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, I know what works and what doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what she wouldn't want done and what she

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<v Speaker 1>would want done. So there are a lot of records

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<v Speaker 1>that came through over the years and it's like absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>Either the record was straight whack or the business wasn't right.

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<v Speaker 1>They was selling something that we knew would be detrimental

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<v Speaker 1>to the brand, you know what I mean. So for us,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always about the legacy, and it's always about assuring

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<v Speaker 1>that we stay true to what he would do closer

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<v Speaker 1>as we could.

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<v Speaker 4>Gotcha?

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<v Speaker 6>Is it hard to watch like the Unsolved stories that

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<v Speaker 6>come on and the series and stuff like that that

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<v Speaker 6>they've done.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, but it's not done yet. We're still fighting,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. It's it's still there. You know, we're not

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to give up. And I'm sure when

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to c J, he wants justice also

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<v Speaker 4>and also his daughter team.

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<v Speaker 1>How you feel when you watch.

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<v Speaker 4>Him Unsolved Mysteries? The thing that, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 4>I watched it and there's some things that went on.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew about it. I told him I wasn't going

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<v Speaker 4>to be a part of it, but I watched it

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm glad it was out. I am glad because

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<v Speaker 4>ninety eight percent of it is a truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Wow, that's one of those things that that we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't approve of as a matter to be good. But

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<v Speaker 1>the way that they went about it was tacky, right.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't come and ask for permission. It just out there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that was something that was detrimental to

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<v Speaker 1>the family at that point. But it did turn out

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<v Speaker 1>to be a good show, so it paid off for them,

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<v Speaker 1>of course. But at the end of the day, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it is what it is. But that's one of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>To the point that you asked, as far as the question.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen something the other days, Follow'm sorry, so.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, I lost my train of thought. I lost

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<v Speaker 4>my train of thought.

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<v Speaker 6>Was it because it envyes Beard?

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<v Speaker 2>Stop it?

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, I seen something the other day

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<v Speaker 3>and it kind of bothered me. It was an apartment

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<v Speaker 3>or a condo, or maybe it was a whole they

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<v Speaker 3>were selling in New Jersey and they were selling it

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<v Speaker 3>based off of big living there.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the name of the street.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember the name of it. But they were

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<v Speaker 3>saying this apartment they were selling this was the house

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<v Speaker 3>of b I g come by the house and they

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<v Speaker 3>were selling it based off of that, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>is that legal? Can you do that?

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<v Speaker 4>It was in it It's very possible. Court, that's what

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<v Speaker 4>it was. Yeah, five Ellid Court. Yeah, he knows.

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<v Speaker 6>People do that all the time, Like this person used

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<v Speaker 6>to live here.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. They do the same thing in in in

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<v Speaker 4>Brooklyn on same James, the same thing with the Crown.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I saw that that crown did get auctioned off, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Supposedly.

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<v Speaker 5>How hard is it to heal when when you see

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<v Speaker 5>you know, a big, big everywhere, like even this weekend

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<v Speaker 5>with the came into the Rock and Roll Hall of

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<v Speaker 5>Fame or you know the bio pics that they always

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<v Speaker 5>do the documentaries, Like, how hard is it to heal

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<v Speaker 5>when when with all of that?

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<v Speaker 4>It saddens me every time every time I see things

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<v Speaker 4>like that. I mean, I'm going to be watching the

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<v Speaker 4>Rock and Roll All of Fame. I've seen you know,

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<v Speaker 4>clips of it, and it touched it touched me, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I cried when when I got the rough cut, especially

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<v Speaker 4>at the end, I really tears. I was going all

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<v Speaker 4>over the place. So every time I see things like that,

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<v Speaker 4>it seems like yesterday he was here and I was

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<v Speaker 4>talking to him. So it really saddens me. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 4>it's out there, and I'm you know, I'm glad everybody's

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<v Speaker 4>doing what they're doing. I just want them to do

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<v Speaker 4>it fairly, and you know the taste, I'm very I'm

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<v Speaker 4>saddened by it.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you way, I mean, I've become.

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<v Speaker 2>Numb to it, right, that's not good though.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when I said I've healed, that is what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Okay, So I become numb to the nuances

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<v Speaker 1>of what that represents, right, because it represents something different

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<v Speaker 1>to me because in where I know where I am,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that from a healing standpoint, I'm tapped

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<v Speaker 1>in in a different way. Right, So I'm cool with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the thing that bothers me is the

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<v Speaker 1>disrespect that comes with it. Right, you got people out

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<v Speaker 1>here that's promoting parties and doing things along those lines,

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<v Speaker 1>or creating opportunities and campaigns for themselves, but aren't giving

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<v Speaker 1>back to the foundation, never going back to the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it's always been about the kids, right and

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Wallace. So from that standpoint, it's like, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing that and that level of disrespect, now, I'm cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I passed on that. So I've kind of detached myself

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<v Speaker 1>from the emotion so that we can get into the

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<v Speaker 1>business of it all. And that's when I get on

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<v Speaker 1>my thing.

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<v Speaker 6>What happened with that crown getting auctioned up? Where does

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<v Speaker 6>that money go? I know it was like a photographer

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<v Speaker 6>or somebody who had.

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<v Speaker 4>It short goes to him. I wish he would do.

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<v Speaker 4>It's something for the foundation.

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<v Speaker 6>That would make a lot of sense because that ran

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<v Speaker 6>her a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Baron's a good guy, Baron Clint boy and we

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<v Speaker 1>do have a great relationship with him, do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of business with him, have done a lot of business

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<v Speaker 1>over the years. I do see him as the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of brother that will reach out, and he has reached out.

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<v Speaker 1>We just have to talk about what that would look like.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't want anybody to think for a second

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<v Speaker 1>that the man is not out there thinking about things

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<v Speaker 1>from a state standpoint or from the family standpoint, because

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<v Speaker 1>in the years that I've known him and the years

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<v Speaker 1>that we've been doing the business with him. He's always

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<v Speaker 1>been that guy, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 5>You know when you say that your heal just going

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<v Speaker 5>back to the healing thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Is healing mean? You know? His his death is something

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<v Speaker 2>that to accept.

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<v Speaker 1>Healing for me is not only accepting you. What I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>healing to me is fortifying oneself. Right at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, We're all born to die, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>about how you live your life that matters, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I lived my life upright and on a

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<v Speaker 1>square surrounded by a circle. So as I'm concerned my

0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:33.119
<v Speaker 1>inner self, I know how to heal way if that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, right, and inn healing me, I can comfort others,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So I've accepted death in

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<v Speaker 1>a different way because I've dealt with so much death

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<v Speaker 1>from childhood to manhood. So at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not something that I'm afraid of. It's not something

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm afraid to discuss. It's not mentally challenging, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not emotionally challenging. I'm content, I'm balanced in my life.

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<v Speaker 5>What about you, miss Wilds, Is this something that you've

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<v Speaker 5>accepted his death?

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<v Speaker 4>It work hard, and because I know death is final

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<v Speaker 4>and for him. It's final. I accept it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are.

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<v Speaker 4>Little avenues, little crevices and corners of his death that

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot and I will not accept. And I'm saying

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<v Speaker 4>that because I'm a true Christian. Because what's right is right,

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<v Speaker 4>what's fair is fair, murder is wrong, badness is wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot accept that. Those are things that I know

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<v Speaker 4>I can't accept. But the fact that he's not here.

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<v Speaker 4>I have accepted that. I was accepted the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>his children are here. I love them dearly. But the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that he's not here to see them grow into

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<v Speaker 4>the woman and the man that they are. It's hard

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<v Speaker 4>for me to accept what happened to him because they

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 4>took that away, and that sometimes hurts. So do I

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 4>accept his death, Yes, I do, But the way it happened. Nah.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you ever feel like you get signs that he's

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<v Speaker 6>still watching over you?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh honey, death is final. He's not watching me. One

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 4>is watching. I know somebody's watching me, because if he

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 4>wasn't what and guiding me, I wouldn't be here today.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>But as far as Christopher's concerned, oh honey, he's asleep

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<v Speaker 4>in death, deep sleep, and I'm looking forward forward just

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<v Speaker 4>seeing him again in the near future.

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<v Speaker 2>I have either one of you, like seeing him in

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<v Speaker 2>a dream or.

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<v Speaker 7>Many times, many times laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing is a

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 7>little comedic self, and you know, quarreling too.

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<v Speaker 4>H Yeah, I've dreamt him many times.

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<v Speaker 2>What about you, Wayne, I actually speak to him daily.

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<v Speaker 1>I speak to my ancestors a lot, and so doing

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<v Speaker 1>kind of embraced him into the family in that way.

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>So he's a part of my daily conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>When when when you think about it, Wayne, because you know,

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<v Speaker 5>whenever you see like when he's birthday comes around, you like, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>Biggie would have been you know, late forties. Like when

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<v Speaker 5>you think about it, do you realize how young y'all were.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's crazy? Yes, I do it kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty five years is a long time, you know what

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I'm saying, And so much has happened, so

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<v Speaker 1>much has gone on, you know, so much has been missed,

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<v Speaker 1>so much has been reading, so much. It's just so

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<v Speaker 1>much about life that happens in that time period that

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<v Speaker 1>you lose sight of the fact that you're getting over

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you're staying true to who you are,

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<v Speaker 1>right So with that said absolutely. I look at it

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, wow, I can't believe that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>at that time I was twenty five.

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<v Speaker 8>Wow, wow, twenty five, twenty six, Yeah, by then it's

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<v Speaker 8>crazy and I'm a little older than them.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you even understand the magnitude of what y'all was

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<v Speaker 2>doing back then?

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<v Speaker 1>I know absolutely not, you know, and and and from

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>my experience in in in the business, looking back, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like I I you know how you hat

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<v Speaker 1>that that that mirror effect where you want to look

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>back at life and see what you would have done

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 1>different and the reasons why. There's nothing that I would

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:29.239
<v Speaker 1>have done different. But knowing what I know now, I

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:35.239
<v Speaker 1>understand how much wrong we did because of youth, right,

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>we were too young to be able to really really

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>embrace and understand what to do with all that we had.

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<v Speaker 1>The nineties was the greatest moment, you know what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying in my young life. The nineties was it. There

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<v Speaker 1>has been nothing since that catapulted that energy for me,

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<v Speaker 1>right the youth to they they're different. I respect them

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<v Speaker 1>for who they are and what they're doing, no different

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<v Speaker 1>than what we did back in the day. But the

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<v Speaker 1>nineties was just something different. It was just special.

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<v Speaker 5>It was That's the most tragic thing about the whole

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<v Speaker 5>situation when you think about how young Tupac and Big

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<v Speaker 5>You were, and it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just simple youthful mistakes.

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<v Speaker 5>Not realizing the power of your tongue, not realizing your influence.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, just just a little bit of age and

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<v Speaker 5>experience would would have changed changed the perspective of either

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<v Speaker 5>one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know another thing too to that point, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy because if you think about it, us being young,

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<v Speaker 1>we had elders, but our elders weren't that much older. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was blessed to come up on the totally different gene.

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<v Speaker 1>Jean Grifflin, you know what I'm saying, Harvey Austin, those

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<v Speaker 1>are individuals that was managing Teddy and you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, I'm working with him and Rex and in

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<v Speaker 1>effected at the time. So I was taught by men

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<v Speaker 1>how to be a man in this business right, And

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<v Speaker 1>even though I was young, I had the understanding because

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<v Speaker 1>of what I've seen of what I did not want

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<v Speaker 1>to do if that made me.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the things that I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>always missing for us in our culture is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we didn't have elders on us really really holding

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<v Speaker 1>us down in a in a vast way. Yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>had individual pockets of individuals, but you didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>group of them, of grown ass men saying hey, slow

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<v Speaker 1>that down, shorty, this is what you need to be doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Pay attention to this, think about this. We didn't have that,

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<v Speaker 1>so we had to learn it on our own. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>was due experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>We look forward to seeing this Saturday on HBO eight PM,

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty twenty induction of Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>And we appreciate you guys for joining us this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, spread love is the way, indeed.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed always love forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, thank you, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys.

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<v Speaker 5>My anthing, my