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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne the Guy. We

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Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining

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Speaker 3: us this morning. We have Miss Valletta Wallace welcome, good morning.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 3: And we also have our good friend Wayne sitting in

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Speaker 3: the background gray and said he was about to leave,

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Speaker 3: but he ain't going nowhere.

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Speaker 2: Way about ow he ain't going nowhere.

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Speaker 1: What's up, brother, I'm blessed, I'm blessed and be a blessed. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Man, it's a very special thing happening this weekend, the

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductions and

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Speaker 5: the late Great Christopher Wallace, the Notorious b I G.

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Speaker 5: Will be inducted into the twenty twenty Rock and Roll

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Speaker 5: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: That's great, an, So what does that mean to you?

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about that?

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Speaker 4: Well, for me, the mother, of course, I'm very very

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Speaker 4: happy about it. I'm related about it. I'm thrilled. I'm

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Speaker 4: only sorry it's not here. Yeah, to be a part

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Speaker 4: of it. That you know, most of these honorary honor

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Speaker 4: honors are going to people who are not here, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, but I'm sure he would be thrilled for

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Speaker 4: that reason.

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Speaker 2: I am thrilled to myself, Wayne, what does it mean

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Speaker 2: to you?

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Speaker 5: I got to ask you the same question, what does

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Speaker 5: it mean to you?

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Speaker 1: You know what it's it's it's kind of one of

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Speaker 1: those bittersweet things. I'm on it. It's he's never been

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Speaker 1: able to experience what we've experienced from his fans. Right,

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Speaker 1: the accolades came after his passing, right, he was on

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Speaker 1: the custom of doing so much. So it's bittersweet for

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Speaker 1: me from that standpoint, but I think it's extremely well deserved.

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Speaker 1: And I'm thankful to the Rock and Roll Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame for, you know, saying acknowledging him for his music

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Speaker 1: and his art. And you know, it's been a hard

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Speaker 1: more fight over these last you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: twenty four years, So yeah, this is it means a lot,

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Speaker 1: and I'm blessed and I'm thankful and grateful that we

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Speaker 1: were able to experience this, and more specifically that Miss

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Speaker 1: Wallace was able to be here to witness them.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: Miss Wallace, how does it feel that Biggie is celebrated

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Speaker 6: so much? Like even to this Day and Brookland. There's

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Speaker 6: murals of Biggie everywhere. Every single restaurant you go into,

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Speaker 6: there's a painting hanging hanging up of Christopher Wallace on

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Speaker 6: the wall. He has his own street and everything. How

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Speaker 6: does that feel for you?

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Speaker 4: A very proud mother, very proud mother. Sad sometimes when

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Speaker 4: I see things that brought tears to my eyes. Once again,

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Speaker 4: as I said, He's not here to see these things.

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Speaker 4: And I'm going to be honest with you, my son

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Speaker 4: is being acknowledged in so many entities, so many avenues,

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Speaker 4: so many programs. Everywhere you turn, there's a Biggie, there's

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Speaker 4: a notorious. There's this I never knew, and I can

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Speaker 4: honestly say I never knew that my son was that.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to use the word famous. I never knew

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Speaker 4: because I'm not a rap model. You know, I don't

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Speaker 4: know anything about rap music. I've learned over the years,

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Speaker 4: you know what it is and how to appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Now I appreciate it, I really really do. I appreciate

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Speaker 4: the young men who are trying, you know, who've done it.

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Speaker 4: But that wasn't me because even today I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: listen to some of the words what did he say

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Speaker 4: or well, you know, when he spoke of a s,

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Speaker 4: I thought he was talking about Holloway, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: but no, I know what it is.

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Speaker 3: Now, let me ask a question, now where Pepsi just

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Speaker 3: released an unreleased freestyle from Big right now? Are there

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Speaker 3: are the unreleased records and verses that you guys might

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Speaker 3: know of or something like that. Because this was a surprise,

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Speaker 3: this was so long ago, it's like, wow, there might

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Speaker 3: be some some verses that's still lingering around.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 1: People are holding on to some of those those jewels.

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Speaker 1: We just got to get a hold of it. But

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Speaker 1: most of what the actual state controls and has actually

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Speaker 1: access to it is what it is. It's you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's been exploited. It's been out there

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Speaker 1: just Pepsi commercials and you know what I'm saying, in

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Speaker 1: the works from ninety seven when it was done, Wow,

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Speaker 1: deal just couldn't get done. Then he pounds and then

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Speaker 1: it just kind of went and enough just continued to

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Speaker 1: fight to make sure that you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: that it stayed relevant and the connection with Rob Stone

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Speaker 1: over the Cornerstone, him and his team are the ones

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Speaker 1: that brought it back to.

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Speaker 4: Lights, So you know what I'm saying. And at one

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Speaker 4: point we couldn't find that take. Oh wow, at one

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Speaker 4: point we couldn't find it.

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Speaker 2: Where did y'all find it? Was it at mister C's house?

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Speaker 2: Was it at Puff's crib?

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Speaker 1: Where was it where they enough had a copy of it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I think that's that's why it sounds so choppy.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was It's not digitized

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Speaker 1: anything along those lines. So it is the actual raw fact.

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Speaker 3: Ms.

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Speaker 2: Wallace and Wayne.

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Speaker 5: You know, as a fan, you know, we sit around

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Speaker 5: and we debating the barber shops. When we at the house,

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Speaker 5: we talk about the what if You know, it's always

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Speaker 5: wonder for the family. How tough for the what ifs?

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Speaker 5: When you ask yourself, what if he was here? What

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Speaker 5: if he did this? How how tough for the what

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Speaker 5: if is for the family.

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Speaker 4: I can't tell about the family, but I can I

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Speaker 4: can speak about me.

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Speaker 1: What if he was here?

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Speaker 4: Maybe I would strangle him. Maybe I would strangle him

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Speaker 4: because you know some of the some of his associates,

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Speaker 4: I still want to strangle them. But you know, there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of what ifs, and I know he would

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Speaker 4: be a happy guy. I know I would be a

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Speaker 4: happy mother because he was a He was a good kid,

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Speaker 4: he was a nice, nice person. We thought a lot,

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Speaker 4: you know, but the makeup was so beautiful. There's so

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Speaker 4: much apologies behind it. And he, you know, his explanation.

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Speaker 4: He made me understand what he's trying to do, what

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Speaker 4: he was trying to say. I still can't take the profanity,

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Speaker 4: still can't. I listen to his music. I listened to

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Speaker 4: his music, and I said, Jehovah, please help me.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: So the what is maybe it would be still fighting,

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Speaker 4: but it would still be my best friend.

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Speaker 2: What about you? Wayne?

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Speaker 1: The what is for me is more. I think that

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Speaker 1: he would have elevated the culture hip hop and generally

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Speaker 1: he just had a way of bringing the best out

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Speaker 1: of people, forcing him to kind of step up just

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Speaker 1: from a lyrical standpoint musically, and I think given the

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Speaker 1: dynamics of where we are from a technology standpoint, because

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Speaker 1: he was so in tune with everything around him and

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Speaker 1: always ahead of the curve, that he would have been

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Speaker 1: delving into things that kind of opened himself up to

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Speaker 1: allow himself to be what these diets have become today,

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Speaker 1: Like to Jay's and the Puffs. But from his perspective,

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Speaker 1: in his way, and you know what I'm saying. From

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Speaker 1: my standpoint, I think that that in itself is the

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Speaker 1: what if that always haunts.

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Speaker 6: I love when I hear people with their really good

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Speaker 6: and find memories, people who knew Biggie and worked with him.

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Speaker 6: I was just talking to Method Man and he was

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Speaker 6: talking about how he first got introduced to Biggie and

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Speaker 6: how they ended up working together and everything. So what

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Speaker 6: are some of your favorite stories to hear about your son.

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Speaker 4: There's a variety of them. They're always loving ones, you know,

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Speaker 4: and they always spoke about his generosity, his kindness, his patience,

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Speaker 4: and him wanting to help to make everyone better. You know,

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Speaker 4: he wants everyone to have something. He wasn't the kind

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Speaker 4: of guy who wants to keep it for himself. He

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Speaker 4: was a sharer. He likes to share. And the respect

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Speaker 4: that he had for even the friends, their mothers. You know,

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Speaker 4: they went all out, you know, Miss Wallace, You know

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Speaker 4: he did this for me and he did that for

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Speaker 4: me things that I never knew. Did you know that

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Speaker 4: he helped me here and he helped me there. I

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Speaker 4: know it's in his heart. I know that kindness was there,

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Speaker 4: but I've never experienced it. But knowing he wasn't here,

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Speaker 4: and to hear them say, oh, miss Wallace, did you

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Speaker 4: know in that shop he bought me that chair in

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Speaker 4: the barber shop he bought me that chair?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 4: Did you know he paid my rent for two months?

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Speaker 4: You know that that was very touching? Wow, very very touching.

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Speaker 5: Wayne, Do you have any stories you can share in

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Speaker 5: front of Miss Wallace?

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Speaker 2: Any fun stories?

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Speaker 1: A lot of story point wise, you can get into, Wow.

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Speaker 2: You're really thinking of.

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Speaker 1: Think of something that I could you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's like, But most of the stories that I have

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Speaker 1: are generally related to justice humor. But I mean remember

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Speaker 1: being in a dice game with him one day in

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Speaker 1: the whole way of Daddy's house, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: mean there was a bunch of brothers up in there,

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Speaker 1: but you know, we're not on the snitch game. So

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he lost, and when

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Speaker 1: he lost, he was mad. I mean, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: he was so mad. And at the end of the

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Speaker 1: day he put me up in the corner and say, yo,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I need to hold something

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Speaker 1: because I need to come back right. So I told him, no, no,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean, No, ain't out of one pain?

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Speaker 1: You ain't. I wasn't paying you. So I game we

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Speaker 1: needed exactly story. I can't waited. He did not win

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Speaker 1: and then told me that I still got to give

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Speaker 1: him some more money so he can go ahead and

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Speaker 1: eat us bus moves?

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Speaker 2: Did you get the money back?

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Speaker 1: He always had this way of bossing up on you.

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Speaker 1: It's just, you know, Big was a very humorous guy.

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Speaker 1: But I called him a gentle giant. You know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? This big heart took care of everybody and

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Speaker 1: and never ever wave it mm hmm.

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Speaker 6: It's just he was miss Wallace even before he became

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Speaker 6: became a rapper. Did all the women love him around

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Speaker 6: the neighborhood?

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Speaker 4: Like? Did he always telephone bill? All these what do

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Speaker 4: you call his honey's honey? So many honeys were calling

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Speaker 4: that house. I told him, look, honey, you gotta get

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Speaker 4: your own phone. I mean, every one you could think of.

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Speaker 4: I could tell you a story. One one morning I

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Speaker 4: was in my bedroom and I heard someone I told

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Speaker 4: this story already, and the person said, well, excuse my

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Speaker 4: languages early in the morning, I am not going to

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Speaker 4: be your second bitch. Whoa, I'm listening, listening, listening. Then

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Speaker 4: after she was gone, I said, come here. I heard

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Speaker 4: the conversation. Second honey, she doesn't know she's about the fifth.

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Speaker 2: So what do you do after something like that? Miss Wallace?

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Speaker 2: Do you do you hand them? Because I grew up

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Speaker 2: Jehovah witness, do you hand him a watch tower? Are

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Speaker 2: an awake and say? Read this.

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Speaker 4: All over the house on the sofa, he was on

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Speaker 4: his floor, he was from the dining room table.

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Speaker 5: Alf of my mom used to do to me when

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Speaker 5: I used to get in trouble. It would always be

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Speaker 5: I got a question, how much of your your love

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Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, you have to make

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Speaker 4: Gotcha?

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Speaker 6: Is it hard to watch like the Unsolved stories that

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, but it's not done yet. We're still fighting,

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Speaker 4: you know. It's it's still there. You know, we're not

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Speaker 1: How you feel when you watch.

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Speaker 4: Him Unsolved Mysteries? The thing that, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 4: I watched it and there's some things that went on.

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Speaker 1: To the point that you asked, as far as the question.

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Speaker 3: I've seen something the other days, Follow'm sorry, so.

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Speaker 4: I said, I lost my train of thought. I lost

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Speaker 6: Was it because it envyes Beard?

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Speaker 2: Stop it?

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I seen something the other day

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Speaker 1: What's the name of the street.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember the name of it. But they were

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Speaker 3: is that legal? Can you do that?

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Speaker 4: It was in it It's very possible. Court, that's what

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Speaker 4: it was. Yeah, five Ellid Court. Yeah, he knows.

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Speaker 6: People do that all the time, Like this person used

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Speaker 4: You know. They do the same thing in in in

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Speaker 4: Brooklyn on same James, the same thing with the Crown.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw that that crown did get auctioned off, right.

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Speaker 1: Supposedly.

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Speaker 5: How hard is it to heal when when you see

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Speaker 5: when when with all of that?

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Speaker 4: It saddens me every time every time I see things

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Speaker 4: it's out there, and I'm you know, I'm glad everybody's

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Speaker 4: doing what they're doing. I just want them to do

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Speaker 4: it fairly, and you know the taste, I'm very I'm

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Speaker 1: What about you way, I mean, I've become.

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Speaker 2: Numb to it, right, that's not good though.

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Speaker 1: I mean when I said I've healed, that is what

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Speaker 1: I think that the thing that bothers me is the

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Speaker 1: disrespect that comes with it. Right, you got people out

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Speaker 1: here that's promoting parties and doing things along those lines,

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Speaker 1: For me, it's always been about the kids, right and

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Speaker 1: I passed on that. So I've kind of detached myself

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Speaker 6: What happened with that crown getting auctioned up? Where does

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Speaker 4: It short goes to him. I wish he would do.

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Speaker 4: It's something for the foundation.

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Speaker 6: That would make a lot of sense because that ran

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Speaker 1: Well, Baron's a good guy, Baron Clint boy and we

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Speaker 1: over the years. I do see him as the kind

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Speaker 1: We just have to talk about what that would look like.

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Speaker 5: You know when you say that your heal just going

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Speaker 2: Is healing mean? You know? His his death is something

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Speaker 1: Healing for me is not only accepting you. What I mean,

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Speaker 1: for me, I lived my life upright and on a

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I've accepted death in

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Speaker 5: What about you, miss Wilds, Is this something that you've

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Speaker 5: accepted his death?

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Speaker 4: It work hard, and because I know death is final

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Speaker 4: and for him. It's final. I accept it.

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Speaker 1: But there are.

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Speaker 4: Little avenues, little crevices and corners of his death that

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Speaker 4: I cannot accept that. Those are things that I know

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Speaker 4: I can't accept. But the fact that he's not here.

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Speaker 4: I have accepted that. I was accepted the fact that

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Speaker 4: accept his death, Yes, I do, But the way it happened. Nah.

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Speaker 6: Do you ever feel like you get signs that he's

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Speaker 4: Oh honey, death is final. He's not watching me. One

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Speaker 4: But as far as Christopher's concerned, oh honey, he's asleep

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Speaker 2: I have either one of you, like seeing him in

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Speaker 7: Many times, many times laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing is a

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Speaker 4: H Yeah, I've dreamt him many times.

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Speaker 2: What about you, Wayne, I actually speak to him daily.

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Speaker 1: I speak to my ancestors a lot, and so doing

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Speaker 1: So he's a part of my daily conversation.

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Speaker 5: When when when you think about it, Wayne, because you know,

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Speaker 1: You know what's crazy? Yes, I do it kind of.

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Speaker 1: much has gone on, you know, so much has been missed,

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Speaker 1: so much has been reading, so much. It's just so

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Speaker 1: much about life that happens in that time period that

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Speaker 1: you lose sight of the fact that you're getting over

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Speaker 1: as long as you're staying true to who you are,

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Speaker 1: right So with that said absolutely. I look at it

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, I can't believe that. I think

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Speaker 1: at that time I was twenty five.

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Speaker 8: Wow, wow, twenty five, twenty six, Yeah, by then it's

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Speaker 8: crazy and I'm a little older than them.

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Speaker 2: Did you even understand the magnitude of what y'all was

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Speaker 1: I know absolutely not, you know, and and and from

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Speaker 1: my experience in in in the business, looking back, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's almost like I I you know how you hat

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Speaker 1: that that that mirror effect where you want to look

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Speaker 1: back at life and see what you would have done

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Speaker 1: different and the reasons why. There's nothing that I would

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Speaker 1: have done different. But knowing what I know now, I

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Speaker 1: understand how much wrong we did because of youth, right,

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Speaker 1: we were too young to be able to really really

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Speaker 1: embrace and understand what to do with all that we had.

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Speaker 1: The nineties was the greatest moment, you know what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying in my young life. The nineties was it. There

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Speaker 1: has been nothing since that catapulted that energy for me,

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Speaker 1: right the youth to they they're different. I respect them

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Speaker 1: for who they are and what they're doing, no different

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Speaker 1: than what we did back in the day. But the

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Speaker 1: nineties was just something different. It was just special.

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Speaker 5: It was That's the most tragic thing about the whole

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Speaker 5: situation when you think about how young Tupac and Big

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Speaker 5: You were, and it was.

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Speaker 2: Just simple youthful mistakes.

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Speaker 5: Not realizing the power of your tongue, not realizing your influence.

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Speaker 5: You know, just just a little bit of age and

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Speaker 5: experience would would have changed changed the perspective of either

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Speaker 5: one of them.

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Speaker 1: And you know another thing too to that point, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy because if you think about it, us being young,

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Speaker 1: we had elders, but our elders weren't that much older. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was blessed to come up on the totally different gene.

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Speaker 1: Jean Grifflin, you know what I'm saying, Harvey Austin, those

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Speaker 1: are individuals that was managing Teddy and you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm working with him and Rex and in

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Speaker 1: effected at the time. So I was taught by men

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Speaker 1: how to be a man in this business right, And

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Speaker 1: even though I was young, I had the understanding because

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Speaker 1: of what I've seen of what I did not want

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Speaker 1: to do if that made me.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So one of the things that I think that was

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Speaker 1: always missing for us in our culture is the fact

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Speaker 1: that we didn't have elders on us really really holding

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Speaker 1: us down in a in a vast way. Yes, you

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Speaker 1: had individual pockets of individuals, but you didn't have a

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Speaker 1: group of them, of grown ass men saying hey, slow

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Speaker 1: that down, shorty, this is what you need to be doing.

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Speaker 1: Pay attention to this, think about this. We didn't have that,

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Speaker 1: so we had to learn it on our own. Everything

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Speaker 1: was due experience.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: We look forward to seeing this Saturday on HBO eight PM,

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty induction of Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: And we appreciate you guys for joining us this morning.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Yes, spread love is the way, indeed.

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Speaker 1: Indeed always love forever.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, thank you, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 5: My anthing, my