1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: All right, before we dive into this week's breakdown, I 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: watched a lot of football this weekend. I get hungry, 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: and let's face it, watching football is better when you 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: get to eat and drink. And that's just the truth. 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: So luckily on uber eats you can score a free turkey, 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: provolo and sub which I have right here from Jersey Mikes. 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: When you spend fifteen bucks at Jersey Mike's all season long, 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: there you go, foot long. This is my dinner. I 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: can assure you. When I'm done reading the spot, I'm 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: going to eat it. 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We may slip 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: in some Oregon Penn State and Ryder Cup in about 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: an hour. Yeah, let's start with the big game of 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: the day. Let's break down six or seven big games. 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: Chiefs thirty seven, Ravens twenty. They tacked on a late touchdown. 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: Lamar's now one in six against Kansas City. They had 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: a lot of defensive injuries, but that's not the story. 27 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: The story is Lamar. I mean, to me, John, Kansas 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: City is in his head. You know, obviously when you're 29 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: missing six defensive starters. I mean, Mahomes four drives, four 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: scores to start, like four touchdown passes. He broke the 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: all time record fastest quarterback to two hundred and fifty touchdowns, 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: which we all knew he was going to do. So 33 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: the defense it doesn't help. But I feel that Kansas 34 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: City is in Lamar's head, do you definitely? 35 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the Steelers have been over the years and 36 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: now Kansas City. It's undebatable. I also think this, and listen, 37 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: he's a fantastic player, He's an incredible talent, but these 38 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: last two weeks he's led a pretty You talk a 39 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: lot about privileged lives at quarterback on offense, like the 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: real sports starts when your tight end chatters his leg, 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: your right guard gets the dui, he gets suspended, and 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: then a wide receiver goes down in the first series 43 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: of the game. It's like, then what do you do? Yeah, 44 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: and we've seen mahomes now for two years. But I'd 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: say also look at Josh Allen. His defense has been 46 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: average at best over the years. Lamar. I would imagine 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: his worst defense was last year, and by the end 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: of the year it was really good. Two years ago, 49 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: they had the number one defense in the league most 50 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: of his career because of the team he got drafted by. 51 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: Right it's basically like defense U in football. The Baltimore Ravens, well, 52 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: what's going on right now? A bunch of injuries. Their 53 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: two best defensive lineman Van Oay's kind of a hybrid. 54 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah gone, Roquand gets hurt today. I mean their defense 55 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: is just a shell of itself. It's like, okay, and 56 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: listen the Ravens. How many times did they win games? 57 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: I bet if we looked over the last three or 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: four years, like forty five thirteen. Yeah, so they roll 59 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: you when they get up. But it's like, okay, you 60 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: got to have to win this game. The Lions are 61 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: used to that thirty five, thirty two, let's go the Ravens. 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: You know, that's just he doesn't have to do that 63 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: a lot for my years. And all of a sudden 64 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: he's looking. It's like you're back on the field. You know, 65 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: they just scored another point. It's just it's a different 66 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: that they don't feel like the Purple team we're used 67 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: to watching because defensively and that has to throw him 68 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: off and it puts more pressure on him and they've 69 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: kind of cracked. I would say the last couple of weeks. 70 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had two first half turnovers. I mean, they 71 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: got themselves into a hole and I let me throw 72 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: this at you. I've always said the reason he dominates 73 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: the NFC, and he is, No, he's it's like twenty 74 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: five and two debatable. Yeah, yeah, they don't see him. 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: Spags has now seen him seven times. So in my 76 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: take on Lamar, I remember the first year he started playing. 77 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: I think he beat the Chargers the first time he 78 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: played him that first rookie year. Then in the second 79 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: time he played the Chargers in the playoffs, if I recall, 80 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: they had a little bit better beat on him. And 81 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: it's all fuzzy to me, but I was told very 82 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: early on you do get a little bit of a 83 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: beat on him. He's just so dynamic you can't get 84 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: your arms run well. Spags has seen him now so 85 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: many times. It's a very good and very healthy and 86 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: a fast defense and then all of a sudden you 87 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: jump out to a lead. And I mean, I think 88 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: some of this is not that there's a secret sauce, 89 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: but Spags is great. His defense is great, and they 90 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: kind of mostly contained him tonight. 91 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: Well because the last two weeks, you know, Dan Campbell 92 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: set the blueprint and you went, well, you know, Spags, 93 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: who already had a blueprint, is going to utilize that 94 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: throughout the week of basically corralling him. Now again, he 95 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: might juke you out and make a move every once 96 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: in a while, but if you don't just run up 97 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: aimlessly and let him just get an easy ten yards 98 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: with his eyes closed, it's harder for him to operate. 99 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: And remember, for a long time, you know, Dax team 100 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: now stinks, but it was like when he didn't when 101 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: he got to pass the ball less than they ran it, 102 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: he was really really effective. Lamar had that stat going forever. 103 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: When the Ravens have more rushing attempts than pass attempts. 104 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna be really dangerous. Why is that they up 105 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: in the second half handing the ball off and they 106 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: just kind of roll you, they lean on you. Well 107 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: today seventeen rush attempts, twenty pass attempts like that is 108 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: not their formula, the way they're playing. And obviously you 109 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: know the turnovers, I mean when he's turning the ball over. 110 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: Now we have and he's not the only culpert. Derek 111 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: Henry has been a major problem for him this year. 112 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: They're out of sink and they they have these injuries. 113 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: Like you know, the Chiefs, you could tell it's like, Okay, 114 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: they beat the Giants, they win this game, they get 115 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: right back into the mix. I'm sure we'll talk about 116 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: the Chargers. They got a million injuries right now. Like 117 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: it's open again for the Chiefs. You look at the 118 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: Ravens and you go this kind of their year from hell, 119 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: like the forty nine Ers last year. You just lose 120 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: a million players and all of a sudden you're seven 121 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: and ten. 122 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And to your point, I joke with Jamack all week, 123 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, it doesn't people don't understand it. It's not 124 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: like Xavier Worthy is a one. But when you don't 125 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: have a one, two or a three, he's a damn 126 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: good two. So he had a ton of targets, nice catches, 127 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: a couple of man, he was wide open on a 128 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 2: couple of them. So to me, when you watch Xavier Worthy, 129 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: they still don't have a run game. But check o hunh. 130 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: That's not gonna work big picture. But not every team 131 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: that gets to the playoffs, it's Philadelphia. Not everybody's a 132 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: great run team. What the run team does, it picks 133 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: up first downs and it helps your defense. So I 134 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: think they're gonna have to establish that. But when I 135 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: watched them today with Thornton, Juju Smith, Zavier Worthy, my 136 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: take was, and I'm not sure if yours was, well, 137 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: if they get Rashi Rice back, okay, now Thornton, now Worthy, 138 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: now Rice, Juju Smith, Travis kelcey, okay, that's more than 139 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: good enough with Patrick Mahomes if they can just be 140 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: Ridge running the ball. But Worthy today it was pretty 141 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: clear that he has a relationship with Mahomes, and it's 142 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: it's it's pretty good. Well. 143 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: One thing I wrote down is, you know Tkon Taekwon. 144 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: Thornton was once a second round pick. You know, that 145 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: was a late second round pick by the Patriots. But 146 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: he has a touchdown in each of the last three weeks. 147 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: So you get Worthy back, You get this guy who 148 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: could fly, get him some confidence. You get Rice back. Hollywood. 149 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: Brown is just a solid contributed member, Like he can 150 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: get you five six catches every game. Juju can just 151 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: do some dirty work over the middle of the field. 152 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: Their passing game looks a little bit better. Big picture, 153 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: this is why they win today. They're two and two. 154 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: You look at the rest of you know, the AFC, 155 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: some of the injuries their own in their own division, 156 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: and the Chargers. I mean, you just you can't just 157 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: start overcoming missing elite players, especially at the offensive line. 158 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: You go, got it. I like their offense now again, 159 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: we talked about this last week with the Bears. I 160 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: just said, let's pump the brakes on the you know, 161 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys defense. He saw today, like the Bears 162 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: offense is going to be up and down. And I 163 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: will say the same thing with this Chiefs against this 164 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Baltimore defense, which is have major issues, but they also 165 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: have one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time and 166 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: one of the greatest coaches of all time and coaches 167 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: the offense. Yeah, so I would be bullish on the 168 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: unit moving forward for sure from an explosive standpoint, and 169 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: you add Worthy to go with Thornton's speed, you can 170 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: just stretch the field and those possession receivers in Brown 171 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: and Juju and even Travis who clearly gets up for 172 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: bigger games, clearly Kennett, and you just keep him healthy 173 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: towards you a playoff game. 174 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: I mean, everybody's got a hole outside of Philadelphia. So 175 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: their defense is good. They have the best head coach 176 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: coordinator combo in the league once they get Rice back, 177 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: more than adequate, probably above average receiving corpse, superstar head 178 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: coach quarterback. I thought the O line was good. Andy 179 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: Reid has rebuilt it three times since since Mahomes arrived, 180 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: Like if they've been patchworking it. You know, they lose Tuney, 181 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: it's gonna take a while. They don't have a great 182 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: run game. I'm not even sure how serviceable it will be. 183 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: But as I watched them today, I'm like, Okay, they're 184 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: a game back of the Chargers, and the Chargers now, 185 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what's happening with Joealt, but 186 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: you're not with a division. If you don't have Joealt 187 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: or Rashawn Slater, not even Harbaugh can pull that rabbit out. So, 188 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 2: I mean, I looked at him today and maybe I'm 189 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: overly optimistic, but I said it all week. I said, Worthy, 190 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: we'll get ten targets, six seven catches, and then Travis Kelcey. 191 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: And it's just like anything else when you've been in 192 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: any industry fifteen years. You and I, you know, our 193 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: Sunday pod feels different than one in May, right, Like 194 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: it's like Travis Kelsey's been around multiple surgeries. I watch 195 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: him in these spots and I'm like, Okay, it's different. 196 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: He's fine. I don't know. I came out of it. 197 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: And again the injuries are part of it. But I 198 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: and I have defended Lamar forever. But he had two turnovers. 199 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: It's pretty clear there's an anxiety that he know, if 200 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: it's a therapy thing, he just say what you want 201 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: about Josh Allen. He's been highly effective against Belichick. Against 202 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, Josh Allen loses. It's usually on the defense. 203 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: I think it's totally on Lamar's head. 204 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you gave the Chiefs Andy and 205 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: Spags the opportunity, who would you rather play at quarterback? 206 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: They wouldn't even hesitate and say, lamar right, the data 207 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: is in. Yeah, check Josh's data versus them in the 208 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: regular season and in the playoffs. He has been excellent 209 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: against Kansas City. But yeah, I mean, I think Kansas 210 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: City has to be I thought the whole time. I 211 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: know his numbers haven't looked good, But watching Patrick Mahomes 212 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: last week, in the second half, early in the season, 213 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: a couple in couple of the losses, the one against Phildel, 214 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: I think he's played really well fame here. He's just 215 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: completely under control. I bet if you went to sitting 216 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: in Andy's office tomorrow, he's like, I was not worried 217 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: at all over the losses with how a quarterback. I 218 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: felt good. Yeah, I thought it was on the other guys. 219 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: You know, So I actually think you know, Patrick has 220 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: been a little up and down in previous years. Remember 221 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: he had an awful interception streak. Yeah, I think for 222 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: the most part, he's he's been playing at a really, 223 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: really high level. His numbers just don't look like fifty 224 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: touchdowns anymore. But I just go that's one of the 225 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: best players in the league. 226 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, the numbers don't reflect his quality of play. I 227 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: thought he had two throws today and a scramble. The 228 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: one where he ran over the line and came back 229 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: didn't count, but it was like it was really a 230 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: clever play to set up time. I also thought he 231 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: had a side arm throw to Juju Smith Schuster. It 232 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: was so quick and so fast with such velocity, and 233 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, nobody else can do that. Stafford does it. 234 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: It doesn't look like that, So I'm with you. I 235 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: think Kansas City now is again a top six team 236 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: and maybe five. I mean, the Chargers tackle situation is bad, 237 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: and let's just go to the Charger game next. So 238 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 2: the Giants beat the Chargers twenty one eighteen, so elite 239 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: neighbors could be out for the year. But the story, 240 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: which I thought was pretty substantial. If if you look 241 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: at the numbers and you didn't watch the game, you 242 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't be impressed with Jackson Dart. But the Giants, between 243 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: Dart and Scataboo rushed for over one hundred and sixty yards. 244 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: He had seven rushes. They were excellent on third down. 245 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: I thought Jackson Dart was pretty damn good. Neighbors hurt early, 246 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: so you don't have that. He had ten scrambles for 247 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: fifty five yards. I thought he was clever, kind of 248 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: worked between the tackles. We know he has a decent arm. 249 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. Again, the Chargers had Herbert was hit 250 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: fourteen times, so this is like a problem. Last week 251 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: he was hit fourteen times. But I thought Jackson Dart, 252 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm watching all these college quarterbacks. Dante Moore 253 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: looks like a great quarterback. CJ. Carrett, Notre Dame, the 254 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: rest of them, I would sell some stock. I thought 255 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: Jackson Dart looked pretty good. 256 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely gave him an energy to start the game. 257 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: I mean they get upset to nothing. He has that, 258 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: you know, the quarterback draw made some throws obviously throughout 259 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: the game. He keeps plays alive with his legs that 260 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: Russell no longer was doing. There's all. There was also 261 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: like a youthful, I don't know, craziness to him. I 262 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: mean he's trying to run guys over. He had the 263 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: one play that got called back on the hole where 264 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: he's he got to be. I mean he could have 265 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: broke his hand, he could have broke his finger, it's 266 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: his throwing hand. But he I think he's so amped up. 267 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: He's playing like he would be against Mississippi State or Tennessee. 268 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: It's like, you got to be a little more careful 269 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL, especially against this team. But he definitely, 270 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 1: I mean you skataboo. The moment he's gotten in the 271 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: games last couple of weeks. You can feel his energy 272 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: and his physicality. He just adds something right. He is 273 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: looking to hit someone hard, and I think the team 274 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: feeds off it. And today you know their passing game 275 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: now at Neighbors, I would assume his niece done. The 276 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: passing game is going to be a struggle. The numbers 277 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: are not going to look pretty good or good at all, 278 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: but definitely Dark gives them something that Russell no longer does. So. 279 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: I also think when you look at the Chargers, they're 280 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: the defensive line for the for the for the Giants 281 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: is excellent. I mean, Burns is a fantastic player, Lawrence 282 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: a monster. Kavon's even better. I think that he's played 283 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: earlier in his career. Uh And obviously they just they 284 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: fly around, so you start losing. The Chargers have a 285 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: domino effect problem because Alt is there because the left 286 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: tackles down he's supposed to play right tackle, so the 287 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: backup right tackle is at right tackle. Well, then he 288 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: goes down beck that you know, you start shuffling. All 289 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you got backups and third stringers in 290 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: different spots against I mean, I don't know how much 291 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: they may combined. But the Giants defense, they're paying a 292 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: lot of money, yes, and they've invested a lot of resources, 293 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: so he is. I thought Herbert Mason throws a day 294 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: where it looked like he was gonna lose knees and limbs. 295 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just getting cut off, he's getting destroyed. 296 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: That's not as sustainable. Now. I like the Giants today 297 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: because I went, well, you go thirteen and four East 298 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: Coast game early, more the juice of the new quarterback. 299 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: So I thought they were gonna lose or at least 300 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: this game was gonna be close. But then now when 301 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: you look big picture, you go all high ankle sprain 302 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: for a big guy that could be a month. So 303 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: it's like you got problems, you know, and it feels 304 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: like Herbert's gonna have to be running for his life. 305 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: He can do that, but man, I don't feel as 306 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: good as I did about them a week ago. 307 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: Now Hampton O Mario Hampton had a couple of big runs. 308 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: It was funny I wrote this down. He had a 309 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: fifty four yard touchdown run and I wrote, okay, he's 310 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: worth the number one pick. They need a horse. Naujie 311 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: Harris is done for the year. So I thought, Amrio 312 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: Hampton likes Ashton Genty, who will get to in a minute. 313 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: Ashton looked the part today. He had a very good day, 314 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: his best day as a pro. I thought Hampton had 315 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: his best day. And again the Chargers had three hundred 316 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: and forty yards. Giants only had two fifty. 317 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: So they're passing game this year. To me, won Greg 318 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: Romas is calling passes NonStop two because you know Keenan 319 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: Allen adds with McConkey and then Johnston, the TCU kid 320 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: is been fantastic. He's been relative to the bar. 321 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, you know, you look at neighbors who 322 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: everybody looks at and goes, what a home run? Neighbors 323 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: can't stay on the field. He can't stay on the field. 324 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: And Quintin Johnson, who was a bust when Jim Harbar 325 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: arrived clearly in the off season. They're like, dude, you 326 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: have a you're a unicorn. Your body type is different. 327 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: They have gone aggressively downfield with him, and he's delivered. 328 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: He had a drop problem for about a year and 329 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: a half, and you know, so I think the good 330 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: news for them Hampton can play. Quinton Johnson's done a bust. 331 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: You know, Joe will return of all high ankle sprains 332 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: or like what do they call hit pointers, you just 333 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: calf injuries like that. Yeah, you know, they just annoying. 334 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: But in the end, I still feel that defense most 335 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: of the time is going to win games. I think 336 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: it's not sustainable, but Herbert's kind of a Josh Allen type, 337 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: a Cam Newton type age. It's pretty sustainable, but it's 338 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: not in like four years. 339 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: Well, Quinn Johnson's just adding it up. Has twenty two 340 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: catches and four touchdowns through four games. So you at 341 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: him with Keenan and Ladi mconkey all of a sudden, 342 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: you go, well, do I have an eighty catch, ten 343 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: to twelve touchdown, deep threat and explosive player. Because if 344 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: I can put that, that's what they lacked. I mean 345 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: last year all they had was mconkey over the middle, 346 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: and listen, sometimes guys are late bloomers. There have been. 347 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: Terrell Owens is one of the greatest players in the 348 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: history of the league. Didn't have great hands when you 349 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: are DK Metcalf. I don't think he's known for having 350 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison senior hands. But when you are a physical 351 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: freak and can fly like Quinn Johnson can, you can 352 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: get by with dropping some balls. And I forget who 353 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: was calling the game today, but he said they asked 354 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. You were here a couple of years ago 355 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 1: with him when he was young, and now you're here 356 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: with him and now he's playing, Well, what's the difference. 357 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: He's like, honestly, just way more confident. And that's where 358 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: I think Harbaugh gets a lot of credit is over 359 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: the years and he has to do this, you know, 360 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: in college. He gets to build them up when they're 361 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen. Confidence is like that jump from high school 362 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: to college. It's just different. You get to mold the 363 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: young guy in the NFL. All of a sudden, you 364 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: can feel overwhelmed, I'm not good enough. Harball had proved 365 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: it with the forty nine ers, and he's proven it 366 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: here again. He can take guys. Alex Smith was shot. 367 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: When I was with the Eagles, we were going to 368 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: sign Alex Smith to be our backup quarterback. Harball wouldn't 369 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: let him go. He believed in him, and he created 370 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 1: the rocket ship that went on to get traded and 371 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: become a playoff quarterback for a long period of time. 372 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: Because some people are like, oh, it's kind of cheesy 373 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: as hyperbolic, it works. These guys are young men, These 374 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: guys are very fickle human beings, rightfully, so this is difficult. 375 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: And he deserves a lot of credit because I remember 376 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: last year when he was dropping some balls. Some of 377 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: these coaches, I mean could be angry, you know your boy, 378 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Kyle Shanahan. It's hard for them to be 379 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: be as fake positive sometimes and Jim's pretty good at that. 380 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: And I got to give him a lot of credit 381 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: with this specific player because last year he could have 382 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: just kind of thrown him in the trash, did he not. 383 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,239 Speaker 1: He kind of kept publicly building him up, and he's 384 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: seeing the fruits of that now. 385 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: Eight years after flushing his promising college football career down 386 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: the toilet. Hot shot quarterback Russ Holiday tries to resurrect 387 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: his dreams by disguising himself as Chad Powers, a talented 388 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: oddball who walks on to the struggling South Georgia Catfish. 389 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: Based on Eli Manning's Eli's Places segment from ESPN and 390 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: Nomaha Productions to new comedy starring Glenn Powell as Russ 391 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: Holiday hot Shot tries to resurrect his dreams disguising himself 392 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 2: as Chad Powers, a talented oddball who walks onto the 393 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: struggling South Georgia Catfish. It's a new comedy event surprise ending, 394 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: You're gonna love it. Hulu's Chad Powers premieres Tuesday, September 395 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: thirtieth with a two episode launch. New episode stream weekly 396 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: on Tuesdays. This week's redeem Team player is Dante Moore. 397 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 2: The former UCLA Brewin led Oregon to a win at 398 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: number three Penn State. Dante finished great night twenty nine 399 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: to thirty nine three touchdowns in Oregon's impressive victory at 400 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: Happy Valley all Right in one of the wildest, ugliest 401 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: games of the season, the Bears because of a late 402 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: last second miss block field goal. The Bears beat the 403 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 2: Raiders twenty five twenty four and the reason this is 404 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: important the Raiders. Thank god Geno Smith is in the league. 405 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: He basically lost the game for the Raiders today. He 406 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: had three picks. He's got really really tenuous judgment in 407 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 2: big spots. The Bears were a mess. I mean they 408 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: had a fourth and one false start, they had a 409 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 2: huge third and five and the snap Caleb wasn't ready 410 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: for it. I mean, I Ashton Genty arrives. So if 411 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: you're a Raider fan, Ashton Genty looked the part. Gino 412 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: was awful, and I think you and I both said it. 413 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: Pete knows him, Pete trusted him. It's so weird because 414 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: Pete hates interceptions and Gino leads the NFL and picks. 415 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: I think he's got now like six or seven leads 416 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 2: the NFL. He's the opposite of what Pete Carroll likes. 417 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: He does not take care of the ball. But in 418 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: the end, you know, I will say this about Kayleb Williams. 419 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: He made a couple of throws. Cole Kament dropped a 420 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 2: big ball today that he had a couple of bad drops. 421 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 2: He they won. He was the better quarterback. It's imperfect, 422 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: but do you just if you're the Bears. Do you go, 423 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: we won a road game. We don't win road games. 424 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: I mean that, I look at it and I think 425 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: to myself, Hey, our defense made plays. That's part of football. 426 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought he made some big plays when that 427 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: final drive scrambling around, you know, it's I just looked 428 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: up on the four box on that on that fumble, 429 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: you know, is that on him? Is that on the center? 430 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll talk about it Ben Johnson the postgame 431 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: press conference. I mean, that might not be his fault, 432 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: but you know, Max Crosby, I thought throughout early in 433 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: the game, like Max Crosby looks like Lawrence Taylor right now. 434 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: He was all open. It looked like it looked like 435 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: Max Crosby was going to single handedly win the Raiders 436 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: game in the first half. You know, I was like 437 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: Max Crosby, I would rather have Max Crosby than all 438 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: eleven guys last week on the Cowboys, and I can't 439 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: imagine Caleb Williams like, we're not playing down. 440 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: You see, there was a play late in the game. 441 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: Max Crosby is so good, so he comes from the left, 442 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: Caleb goes to pass, he just stops circles and says, 443 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go chase him down, and he chases him. 444 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: Caleb is a is a world class athlete, and Max 445 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: forced him out of bounds from the other side of 446 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: the field as a pass rusher. Then he dives inside 447 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: and gets a probably a four to five yard Caleb 448 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: gets a five yard head start and he angles him 449 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: and gets him out of bounce. I thought Max Crosby 450 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 2: today looked like the best defensive player in the entire sport. 451 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: He looked damn good. The other thing that you know, 452 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: for example, Russell Wilson, who's become He is so polarizing, 453 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: like what's gonna happen to his career? The Hall of Fame? 454 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: You know, looking back, Russell could Russell became a borderline 455 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer without ever being able to throw over 456 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. I don't know what his 457 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: numbers like just specifically today middle of the field, but 458 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: he does hit some plays over the middle of the field. Caleb, 459 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and he hit today Rome on a big one. Yes, 460 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: they scored a touchdown. I would say the other thing, 461 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: if has been someone that's been critical of the Rome pick, 462 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: he's definitely showing some life. He's got to he's got 463 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: some more Washington Huskies vibe going with him right now, 464 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: making some big plays, just getting open h So yeah, 465 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I today, it's not a day to be 466 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: negative or you go on the road, you win in 467 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. Now, my overall takeaway from the two teams, 468 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: You know, the Bears might win six seven games, Raiders 469 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: might win four or five. Colton Miller get carted off 470 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the end of the game. 471 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: That's a problem by far. 472 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: There were plays to night and I don't think the 473 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: Raiders uh, you know, offensive line is and definitely the 474 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: Bears defense isn't very good, but it was like I 475 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: think the Raiders offensive line is horrendous, So you got 476 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: the combination. I just don't think those teams are very good. 477 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: But I'm with you. It was it was an entertaining 478 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: like that game was close and the Rams Colts game 479 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: was close, but one was a playoff game and the 480 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: other was just you know, teams that are going to 481 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: combine for eleven wins play but it's the NFL. It's entertainment. 482 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the game winning drive for them eventually 483 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: was eleven plays. And again I thought Caleb made two 484 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: big time throws on the Caleb to a Dunze play. 485 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: I wrote it down here, big blitz by the Raiders. 486 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: They put heat on him. So again again, my take 487 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: is it's the false start. The mechanics, the basic operations 488 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: still are not there. But if you look at the 489 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: schedule for Chicago, the Buys coming up, John, it's a 490 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: pretty easy schedule. It's not a it gets you know, 491 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: green Bay at the end of the season. Minnesota is 492 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: not a great football team as we saw today, so 493 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: Detroit is. But they get him at home. 494 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 495 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: I kind of I think I kind of looked at 496 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: the Bears and I'm like, they block a kick, they 497 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 2: made three big picks. I think you get on that 498 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: flight if you're a Bears fan, and you look, if 499 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: you're a Bears player, you get on that flight and think, shit, man, 500 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: we don't win road games. I mean under Eberflus they 501 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: were the worst road team perhaps in league history. And 502 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: I mean I took the Raiders today minus one and 503 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: a half field goal gos we win it. But my 504 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: take was, I just don't trust Chicago away from home. 505 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: So I can think you get on the flight. Some 506 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: of these games are ugly. 507 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: I would say the bigger issue with the Bears and 508 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: why you couldn't trust, like they could lose the Bengals. 509 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: You know, they can lose the Giants, they can lose 510 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: to anybody, is like the offense, like they're gonna make 511 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: some splash plays. They have a really good head coach. Defensively, 512 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: they look really bad Colin. I mean, they are just 513 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: not They're bad tackling team. They obviously don't have anyone 514 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: that feels like a Max Crosby on their team, so 515 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: they don't have like an impact player, you know. Ashing 516 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: genty one his first touchdown run, it reminded me a 517 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: lot of the run from Washington State last year that 518 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: I think you ran for two hundred and sixty yards 519 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: against them, where guys would tackle them and just fall off. 520 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: That's not supposed to happen in the NFL. 521 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Caleb went twenty two to thirty seven two hundred 522 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: and twelve yards. He also ran eight times. A lot 523 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: of it was survival. But again, I if I go, 524 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 2: let me go to team stats here real quick. I 525 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: mean again, the Raiders had almost one hundred more yards. 526 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: The Raiders averaged six point nine yards of play. The 527 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 2: Bears were good on third down, they were one for 528 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: one on fourth down. They clearly won time of possession. 529 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 2: So I mean again the bear to me, the stuff 530 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: I looked at was eight penalties fall start. I think overall, 531 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: you got to be pretty happy. Okay, yeah, I would agree. 532 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: I want to talk, so I don't know how long 533 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 2: we'll talk about it. The Eagles beat the Buccaneers thirty 534 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 2: one to twenty five. Got off to a huge start. 535 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: It was the reverse of the Rams game last week. 536 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: They averaged three point four yards of play. The truth 537 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: of the matter is they've blocked upon early. I mean 538 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: they came out hair on fire. But AJ Brown again disappeared. 539 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: Saquon's good, but it doesn't feel quite like he has 540 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: a second gear. They're four to zero on four to 541 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 2: one possession games, a lot of penalties. AJ Brown disappeared 542 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: two hundred total yards. You know what Philadelphia feels like 543 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: to me? I mean that's hey. Baker and the Bucks 544 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: were coming right back and almost picked up another last 545 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: drive win. They feel a little like Kansas City. Something's 546 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 2: not quite right. But there's so much playoff experience in 547 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia locker room. There's so many guys who have 548 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: been around that defensive line makes a big play or 549 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: like I thought their defense up the middle, I just 550 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: think Philadelphia and it's as cliche, but it's like moxie 551 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: and experience and in big games matters, and they're just 552 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 2: kind of finding a to win ugly. 553 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: I thought they treated the first half like the Super Bowl. 554 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: They went down to Tampa day early, they went down 555 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: on Friday, and that you know, the Bucks had beaten 556 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: them three for straight times and they're up twenty four 557 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: to six at halftime. So they came they came into 558 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: this game like we're gonna kick your ass, but super 559 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: Bowl champs. They's like what they just assumed the game 560 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: was over because in the first half, the big knock 561 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: was well Todd Bowles pressure, pressure, pressure, It's been awful 562 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: for Jalen. Jalen was eight of nine in the first 563 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: half for two touchdowns against pressure. He was fantastic. Yeah, 564 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: and they were just I mean it felt like, you know, 565 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: a team that hadn't won the Super Bowl, like with 566 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: their back against the wall, we're trying to prove it 567 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: to the league. To me, wins that game forty to thirteen. 568 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: But I bet they went in at halftime, they looked 569 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: around like this game's over and they just kind of 570 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: mailed it in. And then the Bucks. One thing they 571 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: have is that they do not quit. No, I mean 572 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: they have shown that. For fort there's a moment I'm like, 573 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: is he really gonna have four straight comebacks and four 574 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: straight game winning drives? And if it wouldn't have been 575 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: in part of it is you know one thing Jalen 576 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: is not gonna do anymore. Jalen's a pretty conservative player. 577 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: I would say he will push the ball down the 578 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: field in one on one situations. But Baker does these 579 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: Farvian mahomesy in run around bounce off guys. Perty does 580 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: this too, and when they're great, it's the highlight of 581 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: the day. But it can also be Baker, you just 582 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: threw it too Now, I know it kind of got tipped, 583 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: but that play he puts himself. Jalen doesn't put himself 584 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: in that situation anymore. He has taken that out of 585 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: his game, and you could argue he's never really it's 586 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: not really his thing. That's always kind of been Baker's thing. 587 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: Going back to Oklahoma and they're coming right back and 588 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: he tries to keep this crazy play alive and they 589 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: pick him off in the end zone. And let's face 590 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: that was kind of a game, right, there was what 591 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: six seven minutes left to go, and it was so 592 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: it was so exhilarating when he's scrambling and then the 593 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: deflation that comes out in those moments. For as great 594 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: as the farv in the Mahomes touchdown play is laid 595 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: in a game, they're equally as deflating when the guy 596 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: and the other team picks it off in the end zone. 597 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: So that was ultimately their undoing. But I'll say this, 598 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: I came away pretty impressed, like the Bucks have a 599 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: fight to them that you know, they're just not gonna 600 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: go away this year. And ultimately the you know, the 601 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: Eagles they ran that fake push push That to me 602 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: is now the league is like, well, we have to 603 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: sell out for this play because it's unstoppable, and now 604 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna start flipping it to Saquon Barkley. I mean, 605 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: it's an un it's an unstoppable play, right if they're 606 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: gonna if they're gonna fake you because you have to 607 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: sell out and that it was actually probably to me, 608 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: the highlight of the game. But yeah, not nice win. 609 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: By Philly. But I'm with you, it's like they had 610 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't view them they might win fourteen games. I 611 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: don't view them like an all time great team the 612 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: way they're playing right now. 613 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: No, I mean that the Eagles had three straight punts 614 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter and the Bucks got back into 615 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: the game. I mean, they had opportunities to seal it. 616 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: And by the way, Jalen Hurts was zero for five 617 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: when targeting AJ Brown. So the Rams, who are not 618 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 2: great at corner, I mean, Rams will get to this. 619 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: In the second Rams could have lost easily, probably should 620 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: have lost. I mean, god, that felt so bad for 621 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: a number ten that player Williams for the Colts. 622 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: But I mean Mitchell Mitchell, h the from Texas. 623 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: Mitchell, Yeah, I mean, and I liked him in college 624 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: and I felt and then he had a holding call, 625 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: so I mean literally they had two touchdowns taken away. 626 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: So I mean, guys have bad days. But I I 627 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: mean in the fourth quarter when they could have sealed it, 628 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: they didn't. And the Bucks have better corners that match 629 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: up longer corners that match up on AJ Brown. That's 630 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: a huge issue for the Rams, who I really do believe. 631 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: I don't think they want to relinquish picks. But I 632 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: think the Rams know they got to solve that issue. 633 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: It's hard to beat Philadelphia some of the better teams. Okay, 634 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: I will get to the Rams. In fact, let's do 635 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: it now because we'll get to your San Francisco forty 636 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: nine ers and Aaron Rodgers having his best game. So 637 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: the Rams end up winning this thing twenty seven to twenty. 638 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: My takeaway the culture for real, Daniel Jones say, I mean, listen, 639 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: they had that touchdown taken away when when the kid 640 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: fumbled it out of the end zone. Jonathan Taylor, huge run, 641 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: there's a holding call. I feel like the Rams are 642 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: pretty pooka reliant McVeigh, Stafford and pooka reliant, although Davonte Adams, 643 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: you know, their defense is good, their running game is good. 644 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: So the Rams are a really good football team. But 645 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: my takeaway today was Colts probably should have won, and 646 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: Indy's really a really good They're gonna win that division, 647 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: I think going away. 648 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: Totally. I mean, I think Puka Nakua and Jonathan Taylor 649 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: are two of the better offensive players in the NFL. 650 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: Right now. You could argue two of the best non 651 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. I mean, Puka is an unstoppable 652 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: one on one for us. You cannot cover him and 653 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. You look at his numbers, like, John, what 654 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: are you talking about? The run he had that got 655 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: called back, which it didn't ultimately impact him at all. Right, 656 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: I hated that had to have was was gent like 657 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, running through a tackle three sixty and he 658 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: has been unreal all season long. I text you this, 659 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: the Colts, they have been a quarters quarterback less team 660 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: and now they're just a real team with Daniel Jones, 661 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: who honestly, I watch him more and more I get 662 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: more impressed. His armstrengths a little better than I thought. 663 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: You know, Tyler Warren, I was thinking when we were 664 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: talking about Kleb and I'm not gonna try to live 665 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: week to week on this, but I love the draft 666 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: Warren like that guy's gonna work in the NFL for 667 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: a long time. Loveland, he was already injured coming out. 668 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: I understand Ben Johnson compared him to the Laporta a 669 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: little twitchier, but you watch Warren, he doesn't seem like 670 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: that explosive in and out of his breaks, but he's enormous. 671 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: He catches everything. I mean today he five for seventy 672 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: like every time you look up, it's seventy to eighty 673 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: to ninety yards and he's such a red zone threat, 674 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, to go with some of their other wide 675 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: receivers and one of the best running backs in the NFL. 676 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: It looked like they were gonna win that game pretty handily, 677 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: and then obviously it kind of fell apart for him 678 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: at the end. But I'm with you. I think the 679 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: culture really good. I think the ram I thought that 680 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: was just like a playoff level. Just the intensity of 681 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: that game. Well, and the Curse obviously had the big 682 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 1: play toward the end. Yeah, Shane Stiken shows you Shane 683 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: Ssike is not an idiot. Maybe the quarterback last year 684 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: was just a train wreck. 685 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: Mitchell is that wide receiver, and my heart went out 686 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: to the kid because he's supposed to be beloved on 687 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: the team. You knew he felt terrible. But no, if 688 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: you go look at the I want to go here 689 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: real quick. So Daniel Jones was twenty four to thirty 690 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: three for two hundred and sixty two yards. He did 691 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: have two picks, but the one at the end they're 692 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: trying to get down the field you can't crush him 693 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: for that. Stafford was twenty nine to forty one, three 694 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five yards. Three TV's no picks, He's ridiculous. 695 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 2: But overall, now, the Rams had four hundred and sixty yards. God, 696 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 2: they had seventy total plays. That's a lot of plays 697 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 2: for the for the Colts defense to be on the field. 698 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny as I look at the Colts 699 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: and you lose the football game. The Rams that played 700 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 2: a terrible second half. It was one of my blazing 701 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: five picks. I'm like McVeigh off, a bad second half 702 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 2: coming to home. Now Daniel Jones is going to face 703 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: a real pass rush. But my takeaway the whole day was, 704 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: oh god, Daniel Jones looks like a completely different player. 705 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 2: It actually, And I've always been a day Ball fan. 706 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 2: I think a lot of the credit we got. You know, 707 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: I know him and I like him. I think Chris 708 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: Ballards drafted really well. But if you don't hit on 709 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 2: a quarterback, everybody tears you apart. Dude. They have good 710 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: weapons they have. I mean Tillman is great, Warren's fantastic. 711 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: I think the offensive line although the Rams Jared Verse 712 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 2: got in a couple times late, but I think I 713 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 2: think overall the offensive line he gets, the Rams overwhelm 714 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: more than half the teams they play. They don't overwhelm 715 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 2: the Eagles, they don't overwhelm the Lions. They didn't overwhelm 716 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 2: the Colts for most of the game. So your point, 717 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 2: coaching rosters quarterbacks it felt big. 718 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I've told this story before, but I 719 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: had a buddy on the Jets scouting staff and he said, John, 720 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: we've drafted pretty well and we're going to extend seven 721 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: eight of these guys. But if we and this was 722 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, but if we don't hit 723 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 1: on the quarterback, we're all gonna get fired. And most 724 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: people in Boat it shows you you know their coaching staff. 725 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: I think Shane was a little more dynamic than solid 726 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: because he can control of the offense. The one year 727 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: with Gardner Minshew. But the Jets are a good example. 728 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Sauce, Gardner, Garret Wilson, guys got big extensions. 729 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: The Penn State guy Breece Hall like, they've drafted well. 730 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: Everyone got blown out because the quarterback situation was such 731 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: a disaster. They've held it together and they finally just 732 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: found their lifeline because you watch them to day. I 733 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: think a couple early games people don't want to get like, 734 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: after a while, it's like, no, this guy's pretty solid. Yeah, 735 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: and they got I mean one, they feel like a 736 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: lock to win ten games as it goes, could they 737 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: win twelve? Because he win twelve games? Now two of 738 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: the last three years he's won nine games with an 739 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: average team. He gets a better team, he wins twelve. 740 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 1: Like they're gonna give him a contract extension, he's gonna 741 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: be you know this is yes, this has got a 742 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield situation. And you know, I get a lot 743 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: of people asking me where I live. Well, a lot 744 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: of people from the Midwest live here, Big Vikings contingent. 745 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: A lot of people said, listen, John JJ McCarthy. I 746 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: get having hope, but like, you can't tell me we 747 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: would have been better off signing Sam dar course, it's 748 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: it's a pretty arrogant move to go, yeah, we'll just 749 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: replace this thirty five touchdown guy that's twenty eight years old. 750 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: Usually it's impossible to do that, especially if the guy's 751 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: not that number one overall pick. You're like, well, he's 752 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: a fifth number you watched Keep your Fingers Crossed. Now 753 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: he can't even play. 754 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 2: And Donald's Donald's been really really good playing. 755 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: He's just a good player. Now, he's just a good player. 756 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was funny Stafford. So they took 757 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 2: a picture at one point late in the game, Stafford 758 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: was sweating. It looked like, you know what, your dog 759 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 2: goes into the water bowl in the summer and it 760 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 2: comes up and there's just water all over your dog's face. 761 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 2: Stafford was pouring sweat off his helmet, and I mean 762 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: it looked like it was just coming down in the 763 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 2: end and it wasn't a water bottle because there was 764 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: no break. It was a drive. But him hitting two 765 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 2: to two at well, remember they signed to too, so 766 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 2: they drafted him in the second round from Ole Miss. 767 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 2: Kind of felt like a bust, but they kind of 768 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 2: felt well. Ringing Davonte, he's good for about one big 769 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: catch a game, and he had the eighty eight yard 770 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: touchdown to win it for the Rams. That's classic McVeigh. 771 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: Mcvayh's like, listen, we can bail on him, but he 772 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 2: is our fastest receiver and he's not a high volume guy. 773 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 2: He's like a poor man Zavier worthy, but he will 774 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 2: run past you, and we don't have that in our arsenal. 775 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 2: And I just think it's funny that Stafford doesn't throw 776 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 2: to two to two at well all day. The time 777 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 2: he does, it's the game breaker. And I think that's 778 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 2: just what the Rams are. I think situationally, they're so smart, 779 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: they're just so well run, and I mean they didn't 780 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 2: use that play the entire game. It's twenty twenty. You 781 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 2: know a lot of these younger coaches, John they'll through 782 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 2: plays in the first half. I just it's such a 783 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 2: Rams move to me. 784 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: I think where McVeigh deserves a lot of credit to 785 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: is you know, you go through defensive coordinators, you're gonna 786 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 1: whiff on some. And clearly you know he had waited. 787 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: You know, Shula was his buddy, right, they've known each 788 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: other since college, and you know he probably was ready 789 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: years before he gave it to him, but he felt 790 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: like he didn't want to view It's not as like 791 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: brother like nepotism, but like I'm just giving it to 792 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: my good buddy. He has been really good for him 793 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: now for two years. I mean that was he was 794 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: already on staff, ready to be implemented in obviously Don 795 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: Shula's grandson. But I think you know, hiring, I mean, 796 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: so being a head coach. You know, especially Sean, he's 797 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: calling the plays, he's working with the offense, he's trying 798 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: to develop guys, he's dealing with the roster. You know, 799 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 1: hiring your staff is the It's what made Jim Harbaugh 800 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: such a star. Jim Harbaugh is a great hire of 801 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: his coordinators. And you know, anytime that you are the 802 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: offensive play caller, head coach, Kevin O'Connell, Brian Flores, Kyle Shanahan, 803 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: Robert Salah, like, you're a lot better when you're defensive coordinator. 804 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: And I think most people are like, thing is gonna work. 805 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: Like you You've got a good team, and it's worked well. 806 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: I mean verse by the end first looks like to me, 807 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: a young Khalil Mack. 808 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's he's a beast. 809 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: He's a monster. He's a monster. So yeah, they've they've 810 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: drafted and developed a really good defensive line and they're 811 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: just a tough you know. Their best wide receiver is 812 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: like it feels like a running back in Pooka. I mean, 813 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 1: it's the way he plays Cooper Cup used to feel 814 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: like there's a physicality to the way they play at 815 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: wide receiver that the Niners there, guys have that you know, 816 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: you just that adds a toughness to your team. You know, 817 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: the Kansas City, their receivers is just running right. I mean, 818 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, Xavier Worthy and Thornton ain't gonna run over guys. 819 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: But that's Andy doesn't mind, ye, he goes, well, I'll 820 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 1: develop plays for him. 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Pittsburgh 864 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 2: twenty four Minnesota twenty one started for me eight thirty 865 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 2: in the morning. I thought it was my favorite bet 866 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 2: of the week. But then all of a sudden, they 867 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 2: had three backup offensive linemen and the Steelers I felt 868 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell came into the game of the game plan, 869 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 2: and so did Brian Flores, and they didn't adjust, but 870 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 2: I think Kevin O'Connell couldn't adjust. Listen, Aaron played the 871 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 2: best game I think Aaron's played in a couple of years. 872 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 2: I really did. He and DK Metcalf have a clear connection. 873 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,280 Speaker 2: I thought the Steelers offensive line today, John, the Steelers 874 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 2: have not developed a consistent wrong game in six years. 875 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 2: I thought they ran the ball today effectively. I don't know. 876 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 2: I looked at Pittsburgh and I'm like, Jesus, this is 877 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 2: the best Steeler performance. And again they were missing three linemen. 878 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 2: Vikings were a mess on the old line. But we 879 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 2: can't make excuses Baltimore's defense. You got to make plays. 880 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 2: I thought, Pittsburgh, that was a great performance by them. 881 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: If you would have told me at the beginning of 882 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: the day, and I have some of this was a 883 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: little bit garbage time, but wentz through for three hundred 884 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: and fifty yards, I'd be like, I would have been 885 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: a lot more money on the Vikings. You know, I'm 886 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,479 Speaker 1: with you. I thought for the first time in four 887 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: games a little bit last week, but they look like 888 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: a physical team. Started to finish. Yes, you know they 889 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: gain well, ran for ninety nine yards. If you just 890 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: gave the Steelers every week one hundred yard rusher, They're 891 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: gonna have a chance because you know, the days of 892 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: Aaron throwing for three hundred and seventy five yards are done. 893 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 2: They're done. 894 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: But what he can do is a little bit like 895 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: today twenty to twenty four, two hundred and twenty yards 896 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 1: and part of giving DK a lot of money, which 897 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: was pretty risky. Every once in a while he is 898 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: gonna take an eighty yards and cut across the field 899 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: and run by every money. So over the course of 900 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: the season, DK gives you ten touchdowns and three or 901 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: four of them are like that testy. 902 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 2: They usually are. 903 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: That's a huge but but you got to play good defense. 904 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: They had six sacks. They were all over Wentce and 905 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, they were hitting really hard. Now, they did 906 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: lose Ramsey at the end of the game, but to me, 907 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: there was a physicality to their team start to finish 908 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: that had kind of been lacking. And I do wonder, 909 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: you know if Tomlin, I mean part of him is 910 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: that raw raw what is going on here? And I 911 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: think the defense kind of been getting called out yep 912 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: and came to play today. And I would say the 913 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: same thing for their offensive line because part of the 914 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: reason every single human alive love Minnesota. It's like, well 915 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: flores against this offense. 916 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 2: Steel Steelers and run game has been a six year disappointment. 917 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 2: I mean I'm watching the day and I'm like this 918 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 2: now again. Have I watched every Steeler drive in every 919 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 2: Steeler game, but over the last six years, I honestly 920 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 2: felt watching that game that was the most hopeful Steeler win. 921 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that thing looks like a totally agree 922 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 2: they could go on the road and win a playoff 923 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 2: game like I was. I mean, so much of this league, 924 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 2: in a passing league, is can you consistently run the ball? First? Like, first, 925 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 2: you don't want your quarterback throwing forty times, especially an 926 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 2: old quarterback. Secondly, it keeps your defense off the field, 927 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: and I think Pittsburgh's defense you have some older players. 928 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 2: JJ Watt was great today, but you you have some 929 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 2: older players and new players, so you don't want you 930 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 2: you don't want your guys on the field for sixty 931 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 2: six plays. I mean I wrote down four or five 932 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 2: different times, Wow, impressed Steeter Oline dot dot dot really 933 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 2: great today. Yeah, I mean at one point the game 934 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 2: was twenty one to six. 935 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, they were creating turnovers. They had a 936 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: bunch of sacks. I can't imagine endlessen. I know the 937 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: Vikings won one hundred and nothing last week against Jake 938 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: Browning and the Bengals, but every single person with the 939 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: Steelers said, We're not flying to Dublin, Ireland to lose 940 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: to Carson Wentz like that, that is not happening on 941 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: our watch. Well, I woke up. The game started at 942 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: six thirty for me, and it was fourteen to three, 943 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: and DK just had that play, and then you just 944 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: watched the rest of the game, and again it was 945 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: they got some late touchdowns. You know, Rogers is screaming 946 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: to go forward at the end, they get denied at 947 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: like the one yard line, right when he wanted to 948 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: basically ice the game. And a couple of plays later 949 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: they score, so all of a sudden, I think it 950 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 1: was like twenty four to fourteen, and then all of 951 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's twenty four to twenty one. And they 952 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: still got a couple a minute or two before the 953 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: two minute warning. You're like, WHOA. And I think, you know, 954 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: Rogers I think is trying to make the Tomlin a 955 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: little unconservative. I think their nature would never have been 956 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 1: to do that, but he kind of got to overrule 957 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: him there, and which I didn't mind. They had to 958 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: go ninety nine yards with Carson Wentz and then all 959 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: of a sudden, they I think they blew a coverage 960 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: to Jordan Addison. They got lucky that he didn't score. Ye, 961 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, the guy made a great play to kind 962 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 1: of b line him down at the end. But I'm 963 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: with you. Beside a couple of free plays, the Steelers 964 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 1: not only got they leaned on Minnesota, who I think 965 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: we'd all agreed, pretty tough, physical team. It's not like 966 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 1: they are soft by any means, especially for you could 967 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: look they kept showing Flora Flores had to look like 968 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: what is going on? And listen, Sometimes you fly across 969 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,399 Speaker 1: these international games. What Minnesota ex playing back to back 970 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: international games in two different countries. You know that could 971 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: really throw you off. I heard you talking about it 972 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: last week on TV, Like you draft this guy really high. 973 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: He misses all season last year and now he's out 974 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: for six or seven games and ankle Like, let's let's 975 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: call it what it is. Sam Darnold's leading game winning drives. 976 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: Kind of a disastrous situation he'd be like, well, John, 977 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: it's early. We've talked a lot about you don't get 978 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 1: much time anymore, like and you just let a quarterback go. 979 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 1: It's it's a problem. And Carson Wentz is actually more 980 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: impressive than I thought. I mean, it's the guy was 981 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: just on his couch. He's actually pretty got some talent 982 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: in his body still. But like, you drafted this guy 983 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: in the top fifteen to be your quarterback of a 984 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 1: fourteen win team and he's just sitting there eating sunflowers. 985 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: Se He's like, it's. 986 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 2: Kind of a big problem. Yeah. I mean, Michael Pennix 987 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 2: today I thought made some big time throws. Drape May. 988 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 2: They're not asking him to do a ton, but Drake 989 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 2: May today they're dropping forty two points. So we know 990 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 2: bo Nicks can play. He gets an extra day against 991 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 2: the Bengals defense. Yeah, I mean, I wasn't a JJ 992 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 2: McCarthy fan. You know, it's interesting. I've been told this, 993 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 2: This has been a line that I've used many times, 994 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 2: is don't try todate your previous choices. And I listen, 995 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 2: they wanted to sign Sam Donald, they were very interested. 996 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 2: They want John Snyder came in and you know, they're 997 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 2: willing to pay more. And Sam Donald, frankly, probably if 998 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 2: you asked him, would have wanted to stay justin Jefferson, 999 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connor. I mean yeah, and I mean and by 1000 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 2: the way, in that division that's not a great defensive division. 1001 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 2: Now you go out and have to face like, you know, 1002 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,959 Speaker 2: a Bosa at the time and the Rams front twice 1003 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 2: a year. I mean, Sam Donald follows the league. I'd 1004 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 2: rather stay in Minnesota in the offensive division than go 1005 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 2: and have to face McVeigh and Shanahan and Arizona's got 1006 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 2: a defensive coach, they got players, So I you know, 1007 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 2: it's it's you and I both believed in Donald. But 1008 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 2: when you watch Donald play and you watch JJ McCarthy, 1009 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,359 Speaker 2: Sam's bigger, thicker, bigger arm. There's a reason they offered him. 1010 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 2: But I think did did they get into a situation 1011 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 2: where they're like, well we drafted him. 1012 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's when's the last time the Vikings it was 1013 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: like forever the Chiefs, they they've never had a rafted 1014 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 1: quarterback play. Well, so there was all this pressure, you know, 1015 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: the GM who's his IVY league, smart venture capitalists, and 1016 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: Kevin o'conne who's obviously excellent. They're like, we're not gonna matter. 1017 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: If you look back, you would have been like, whatever 1018 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: you get offered, and he sound like he was getting offered. 1019 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: You know, purty Jordan love money. Would they give him 1020 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: fifty sixty guaranteed? If they didn't have a quarterback, they 1021 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,439 Speaker 1: would have gladly given him one hundred million dollars guaranteed, right, 1022 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: but they did. They're like, they start pinching pennies and 1023 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 1: you start going, what we can do to the team. 1024 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 1: But that's also for that to work, it's predicated on 1025 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy just being solid. That not only do we 1026 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 1: not know if he's solid, he's played eight quarters in 1027 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: the NFL and seven of them have been the worst 1028 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: quarterback play of the league. Think about that. Yeah, he's 1029 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: played eight total quarters and seven of them have been Objectively, 1030 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't get any worse. And he's now torn in 1031 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: knee and had a bad ankle injury where he's not 1032 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 1: even he can't even put on bats. So you go, 1033 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 1: this is I don't want to say, like def Con five, 1034 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: but you can't tell me that. Internally, they are really 1035 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 1: concerned because listen, quarterback situation and just you can get lucky, right, 1036 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: Like they got a little lucky. I don't blame them 1037 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 1: once they signed Donald for ten million dollars, still drafting 1038 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, But then you got evidence and it's like, wow, 1039 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,479 Speaker 1: he's terrible in these last two games. Yeah, some Peyton 1040 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 1: Mannings had shitty playoff games football, Joe Montada lost some 1041 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: playoff games, and I'm not saying he's those guys, but 1042 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,479 Speaker 1: he's kind of coming back. And Sam's validating, like, yeah, 1043 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: maybe I'm not gonna be Patrick Mahomes, but I'm gonna 1044 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: be way. What are the chances that JJ McCarthy is 1045 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: ever eighty percent as good as Sam Donald has been 1046 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: the last time? 1047 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 2: I don't think do you know? Right now, Sam Donald 1048 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 2: start of last season is tied with Mahomes with seven 1049 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 2: game winning drives. He's tied for the most wins in 1050 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 2: the league and tied with Mahomes for the most game 1051 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 2: winning drives. It's not that Sam is playing well. Sam's 1052 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 2: playing well late. Sam's playing well in big moments. I 1053 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 2: mean that Arizona game they needed Sam they was that 1054 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 2: was a quarterback game. So it's not just that Sam 1055 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 2: looks bigger and more active, and the other thing is 1056 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,919 Speaker 2: Sam played with older guys in Minnesota. Seattle's a bunch 1057 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 2: of kids. It's the second youngest offense in the league, 1058 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 2: and they PLoP him in JSN. Now looks like at 1059 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 2: number one, the Holton kid, the fifth round kid can 1060 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 2: play that, the Royal, the tight end from Miami, the 1061 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 2: rookie walker. He just brought him into a bunch of 1062 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 2: kids like Jordan Love plays with a young team, but 1063 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 2: he's been there for four or five years with all 1064 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 2: those guys, or at least three years. I mean, Sam 1065 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 2: had just plopped him into the young Seahawks. It looks 1066 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 2: like he's been playing with this group of guys for 1067 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 2: years totally. 1068 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with you and I I'll never forget 1069 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,879 Speaker 1: watching the press conference when they signed him, and Mike 1070 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 1: McDonald's sitting up there next to him, and they said, well, 1071 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: how much of an impact did it have. I mean, 1072 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: you could argue one of Sam's greatest throws of his 1073 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 1: short career is a really good player against against Seattle 1074 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: last year, and he said, yeah, kind of had a 1075 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 1: big impact on us. I had a front row seat 1076 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: for that game and a game planned against them all week, 1077 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,320 Speaker 1: so I just think, you know, the Steelers are a 1078 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,760 Speaker 1: good example of this season is like they start anew 1079 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,800 Speaker 1: next year, Who the hell knows what's gonna happen. Rodgers retire, 1080 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: he's forty two years old. Maybe tries to come back. 1081 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: You know, I think the Vikings right now, listen, I've 1082 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: been like I said, I've been impressed with Carson Wentz, 1083 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 1: like he's but definitely not some loser. That's right. You 1084 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: can play with them, but he's just one. He's not 1085 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 1: like you got to go back to JJ. Is JJ 1086 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 1: as good as Carson Wentz is? Right now? I don't 1087 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: think so. 1088 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 2: No, Right, let's go to this. This is a game 1089 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,839 Speaker 2: that not many people outside of the Bay Area watch, 1090 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,959 Speaker 2: but it's fascinating. So the Jags beat the Niners twenty 1091 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 2: six to twenty one. San Francisco. First of all, is 1092 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 2: the team that can't catch. They had six or seven 1093 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 2: drops today, but the Jags led seventeen to six and 1094 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,320 Speaker 2: a half. Brock Purtty had a brutal fumble that sealed 1095 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 2: the lost late. He had two picks, one of them 1096 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,359 Speaker 2: egregiously bad. So so far this year, Brock pretty has 1097 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 2: four touchdowns and four picks. Mac Jones has four touchdowns 1098 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:06,760 Speaker 2: and one pick. Some of it the injury less practice time, 1099 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 2: but you know, and I'll just set it up for you, 1100 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:17,280 Speaker 2: But my take was the Jags gave them multiple opportunities 1101 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 2: to win the game. It was typical Jacksonville. They you know, 1102 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 2: they have you know, I mean, you know, Trevor Lawrence 1103 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 2: sliding out of bounds. I mean it's just like, oh God, 1104 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 2: Jacksonville missing field goals that are makeable. What did you 1105 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 2: make up pretty I mean I thought it was pretty bad. 1106 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he looked, I thought today like bad. Jimmy Garoppolo 1107 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: balls floating on them all day, all day. I mean 1108 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: he he had multiple guys. Robinson and Juwan Jennings made 1109 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: two catches that were just out of this world that 1110 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 1: if they don't catch with their fingertips are probably caught 1111 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 1: by the safety behind him. And I think this gets 1112 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 1: back to this not the Niners had a moment today 1113 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:59,240 Speaker 1: where Ricky Piersoll was in the tent and Juwan Jennings 1114 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 1: had to wait to get into the tent. And that 1115 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: has happened to the forty nine Ers more than any 1116 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 1: team in the league. They've had a player in the 1117 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 1: tent and they've had a waiting line It's like when 1118 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: you and I go to the doctor's office. That is 1119 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: not normal. Their tent. They should sponsor their tent and 1120 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 1: get quadruple any other team if there's a sponsor on 1121 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 1: top of the tent because of the use it gets. 1122 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 1: Rockberdy probably should not have played today. He could barely 1123 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 1: practice by like you know, Thursday, but he kind of 1124 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 1: had to because the backup quarterback who've been playing well, 1125 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: Mac Jones, is injured, who toughed it out and was active. 1126 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: They have a massive injury problem. I mean that their 1127 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 1: players are now pearsall Piersoll could not finish this game. 1128 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: They just lose. Bosa Kittles nowhere to be found. They 1129 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 1: they're terrible on special teams. A guy takes a punt 1130 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: to the house, Parker Washington, I mean, oh just I 1131 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: mean he was flying. The punter gave his best efforts. 1132 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 2: But they've been bat on special teams for six years. 1133 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 1: So the turnovers, the forty nine ers, I mean, they've 1134 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: they've been gutting these wins out today. They deserve to loose. 1135 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they were they were really a troch. There's 1136 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 1: a big pick's problem with this team too. Kyle Shanahan 1137 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 1: wants to run the football, and right now they can 1138 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 1: now run the football, and there's nowhere for McCaffrey to run. 1139 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: He doesn't have explosive runs. At one point in time 1140 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: the day I looked, they had like sixty McCaffrey had 1141 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 1: seventeen carries for forty nine yards. They ran the ball 1142 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,399 Speaker 1: twenty four times for eighty three yards, and they had 1143 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: like two explosive runs. So they just McCaffrey's long was 1144 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 1: eleven yards a couple of years ago. Remember when they 1145 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,280 Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl that year. Throughout the season, 1146 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 1: how often McCaffrey's have fifteen twenty thirty yard runs. He 1147 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: was there like he was a huge element to their 1148 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: offense as an explosive player. And then it opens up 1149 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: the play action game. I remember Jay Gruden told me 1150 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 1: he's like, listen, there's no one better than scheming up. 1151 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, part of the reason they're not McCaffrey's looking 1152 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: a little old, and their offensive line is not great. 1153 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 1: It's not because the scheme. Like Kyle knows how to 1154 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,880 Speaker 1: scheme the run, but his drop back passing game is 1155 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 1: not viewed like Andy Reid's or Sean mcvas right, that's 1156 00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,240 Speaker 1: not Kyle's deal. But when he cannot run the ball, 1157 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 1: they can't just drop like the purty play that end 1158 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,240 Speaker 1: of the game, the fumble like he's gotten multiple offensive 1159 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: line getting smoked. He can't drop back in pass because 1160 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 1: they can't protect. So beside Trent, who's also looking a 1161 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,319 Speaker 1: little old that. I know, they're three and one, but 1162 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 1: they play the Rams in like three and a half days. 1163 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: And now the Rams getting this win today, that's a 1164 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 1: huge game. The forty nine ers. Who knows who's going 1165 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 1: to be available in that thing. All of a sudden, 1166 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: you went from three and oh to three and two 1167 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 1: pretty quick, and I thought, you know, you go three 1168 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 1: and oh, you just have to limp shitty schedule seven 1169 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 1: to seven and seven and you're ten and seven, right, 1170 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: you saw you go? You can lose to anybody. I 1171 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 1: don't think the Jags are that good, Listen, I don't 1172 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 1: think the Jags is that good. All they got some 1173 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 1: good individual players, but do I think they're like a 1174 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 1: do I feel confidence saying like that's a ten win team? 1175 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 2: Hell though, I mean if you look at the Rams 1176 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 2: defense and Seattle's defense, just the athletes that are playing 1177 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 2: John and then you look at the Niners. I mean, 1178 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 2: Seattle and the Rams are just faster defensively. They just 1179 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 2: have more elite players. And then all of a sudden, 1180 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 2: JSN Jackson Smith and jigb is a number one for Seattle. 1181 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 2: Walker's the number one running back, a royal looks really 1182 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 2: good at tight end. Darnold's a great athlete. I picked 1183 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 2: the Rams that win the division and the Seahawks be 1184 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 2: a wildcard team. Just turn the sound down and watch 1185 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 2: the Seahawks and the Rams athletes. It looks like GM's 1186 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 2: are hitting a lot of picks San Francisco. You know, 1187 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 2: when I picked them third, people said I was crazy, 1188 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 2: but I said they're old, expensive and brittle, and I said, 1189 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,919 Speaker 2: you're just gotta bake in. Trent's gonna miss three games, 1190 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 2: McCaffrey two, and Kidle four, like you just have to 1191 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 2: bake it in. 1192 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I actually think the Niners defense 1193 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 1: has been pretty good this year. I mean, for they 1194 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: gave up how much this saw one, Well that's what 1195 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So but they have some young explosive players, 1196 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 1: Like they got a touchdown, dude fumbles ETN scores the 1197 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: next play they have a punt. You know, it's not 1198 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 1: their defense has given up all, like part of the 1199 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 1: offense is basically giving them great field position and the 1200 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 1: defense is kind of getting gassed. But big picture, you know, 1201 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 1: Bosa did not play well. I thought last year this 1202 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 1: year he looked like a man on a mission. So 1203 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: losing him, it's not just you just say we lose 1204 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 1: so and so, Well, how is that guy that's so 1205 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 1: and so just because he's a big name most early 1206 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 1: on looked like he could be the defensive player of 1207 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: the year. So the the the air going out of 1208 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 1: everyone's sales on defense, because you go, hey, we got 1209 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa coming off the edge with his young group, 1210 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 1: we got Fred Warner flying around, we got this great 1211 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Our defense can dominate and our offense can 1212 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,919 Speaker 1: just figure it out as the year goes on. Because 1213 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 1: but you lose Nick, it kind of can unravel fast. 1214 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: And that's you know, today, I thought they did a 1215 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 1: pretty good job. But I don't view the Jags as 1216 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: some like potent offensive option. But to me, if purty 1217 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 1: and he's just he's just had thrown a lot of 1218 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 1: turnover last like tend to last week. 1219 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 2: That interception, I don't know what he saw. Gino had 1220 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 2: an interception today. I don't know what he saw. Perty's 1221 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 2: was worse. 1222 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 1: Somebody pretty can't see because he's not that tall. 1223 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 2: I think that's what I think. 1224 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 1: And then today I wonder, you know, he's got this 1225 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,959 Speaker 1: foot injury. Can you not drive off the ball. Yeah, 1226 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 1: but then he'd scramble around, so you're like, well, he 1227 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 1: doesn't look hurt. But I felt throughout the entire game 1228 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 1: he you know, if he was a pitcher, it'd be 1229 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: one of those like he's not making a pass like 1230 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 1: the third inning, right, you just go to the bullpen. 1231 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 1: You could just tell early like he is just off. 1232 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 1: And usually, you know with a Shanahan team or just 1233 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 1: that kind of that style of offense, you just run 1234 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 1: the ball. Well, they couldn't. They just can't, and he 1235 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 1: can be I would say, stubborn. Sometimes Kyle will keep 1236 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: calling runs because we're gonna bust one and we're gonna 1237 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 1: bust one. And they never did. They never had a 1238 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: longer run than eleven, and most of them felt like 1239 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 1: they were going for one, two, three yards. They were 1240 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 1: getting nothing. And if we know the forty nineers can't 1241 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 1: run their best teams, they typically it's like it's pretty 1242 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 1: clear the Ravens. When they're good, defense dominates and they 1243 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 1: and they lead a league in rushing. Forty nine ers 1244 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 1: when they're good, defense lead the league and run like 1245 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 1: that's the style of football they play. And right now 1246 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm watching some of these other teams bus runs that 1247 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 1: the forty that is not the forty nine ers right now. 1248 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to talk about one college game 1249 01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 2: and one player specifically. So Oregon in overtime beat Penn 1250 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,920 Speaker 2: State Penn State thirty to twenty four. And I had 1251 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 2: said all week I kind of liked Oregon to win, 1252 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 2: but they hadn't Dante Moore between u SEL and Oregon, 1253 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 2: he just hadn't played in a big stadium. John, I 1254 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 2: think this kid was so cool. I don't think that 1255 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 2: a delay a game. I don't think they had an 1256 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 2: offensive penalty in terms of not being lined up. He 1257 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 2: goes into that environment that is an elite defense that 1258 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 2: has eaten quarterbacks alive, three touchdowns, no picks, twenty nine 1259 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 2: to thirty nine, two hundred and fifty yards, and multiple 1260 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 2: times the camera takes pictures of Dante Moore totally unfazed. Inarguably, 1261 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean arguably the hardest environment in the 1262 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 2: country is I think definitely in their conference. I think 1263 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Dante Moore is the best quarterback in the country. He 1264 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 2: is the best quarterback if you're talking poise size arm 1265 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,000 Speaker 2: Oregon's always had speed, But you know, all these top 1266 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 2: programs do. I think Ohio State's the better team. I 1267 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 2: thought that was such a defining win. I mean, they 1268 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 2: beat Ohio State last year, Notson, so you go, you 1269 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 2: go all the way and James Franklin's gonna get crushed. 1270 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 2: But I and rightly so. But he has lost to 1271 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 2: Harbaugh's Michigan, Ohio State, Oregon. He's he's losing to the 1272 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 2: right people because I don't think Penn State's as good 1273 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,680 Speaker 2: as Ohio State or Harbor with Michigan, I don't think 1274 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 2: it's as good a program as Oregon because Oregon recruits 1275 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 2: California at a high level. But what was your interpretation 1276 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 2: of the game in Dante More I was kind of 1277 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 2: blown away by the performance. 1278 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was pretty simple these teams, and 1279 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 1: you could take the other game that was going on 1280 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 1: at the same time, Georgia and Alahata. They don't play 1281 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 1: in that. They don't play in that many games for 1282 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 1: the talents equal. So whether the quarterbacks on or off, 1283 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 1: whether Aler plays good or bad against Nevada or if 1284 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 1: IU or even you know, the the Iowas and some 1285 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 1: of these other teams are gonna play, it does not matter. 1286 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 1: They're just gonna out talent them. They're not the other teams. 1287 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 1: I can be able to score and they're gonna win 1288 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 1: even when they play shitty twenty seven to seven. There 1289 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: are gonna be a couple games throughout the year where 1290 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 1: they got equal talent. And we say, you know with 1291 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 1: Penn State now for the because Penn State is an 1292 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 1: elite ross. Yes, Like to me, just you I had 1293 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 1: those two games on at the same time. It's like 1294 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 1: there are NFL players everywhere on. 1295 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 2: These two those were the quarterback play, the coaching in speed. 1296 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So to me, both games came down to Dante 1297 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 1: Moore is a five star quarterback who looks like he's 1298 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 1: a star. And Ty Simpson everyone wrote that kid off. 1299 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 1: Whatever debor and grub have done to him, he looks 1300 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 1: like a stud. So what happens in the NFL, most 1301 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 1: teams are pretty equal, Like what the hell is the 1302 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 1: difference between Jags and the forty nine ers, Not much. Well, 1303 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 1: if your quarterback crumbles, you're gonna have problems. And that's 1304 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 1: the NFL right quarterback play. Why do we say that 1305 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 1: because most teams have similar talent. Yea that there's not 1306 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 1: there's not three teams. I mean the Lions are a 1307 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 1: couple teams in the NFL, but over twenty five teams 1308 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL, man for Manner basically the same. Yeah, 1309 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 1: so it's like, what's your quarterback and that's what he 1310 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 1: becomes in college football now, especially with the NIL your team. 1311 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 2: For portal has even everything. 1312 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 1: Out and Aler last night and I know he hit 1313 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 1: the deep bomb late but was mainly atrocious. Yes, and 1314 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 1: he's just I've always thought this with with quarterback play. 1315 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 1: Two things that we don't talk enough about our toughness 1316 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 1: and just kind of instincts and he's tough, like he 1317 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 1: will lower shoulder. They just don't exist. They just not 1318 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 1: an instinctive player and to me more and I would 1319 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 1: say the same thing about Tyson. I would say of 1320 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 1: the four quarterbacks last night, and I would include Gunner, Stockton, 1321 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 1: Aller was the worst. Stockton made a couple of big throws, 1322 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Like listen, he's not the best, but this guy's to me, 1323 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 1: Aller is James Franklin is gonna get tragged through the mud. 1324 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,439 Speaker 1: I'm sure this week. I think they have a bye week. 1325 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 1: They've been hyping this team, you know, for so long 1326 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: about just this game and how much it meant, because 1327 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 1: Penn State now has had like a two or three 1328 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,840 Speaker 1: game regular season right for the last several years, so 1329 01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan, now Oregon, and it was just it's 1330 01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:04,439 Speaker 1: hard for me to put it on him because their 1331 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 1: teams field felt ready. It's the quarterback. You recruit the 1332 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 1: wrong quarterback. We've seen Dabbo do this when you get 1333 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,640 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence Young, Deshaun Watson. We saw it with sab 1334 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: him when he had Tua and Edojeron got Burrough. You 1335 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 1: look really good when you don't, it's really hard. And 1336 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 1: they went all in an Aller living in you know, 1337 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: some of my buddies back there went to Penn State. 1338 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 1: They looked they were telling me a couple years ago, 1339 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 1: we got this guy supposed to be like Josh Allen. 1340 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 1: That was the hype on. 1341 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 2: Drew two years ago. But I thought he improved so 1342 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 2: much last year. At the end of the year, I 1343 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 2: was like Okay, if he does that again, he's a 1344 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 2: top ten pick. 1345 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 1: But he just because they got the Kansas offensive coordinator 1346 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 1: that many believes one of the best offensive coordinators in 1347 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,720 Speaker 1: the league. So it's not their offensive coordinator who's excellent. 1348 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 1: They added the Ross kid last night, they made some plays, 1349 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 1: they've added some transfers, they have great running backs, right, 1350 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,959 Speaker 1: and it's just it's him. I mean, obviously that's throwing 1351 01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 1: in overtime, but he the first half, he was just atrocious. 1352 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 1: The thing is, he can't just make the play more count, 1353 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 1: even Tys Simpson, he just can't make the plays. So 1354 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 1: I was high on him just because I wanted to 1355 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 1: be I'd heard the hype and it just got to 1356 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 1: be out, you know, you just you just gotta be out. 1357 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 2: John. When I watched that game last night with Dante 1358 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 2: More and you and I use this word, but there 1359 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:20,880 Speaker 2: is juice, Dante more, poise, juice arm like you can 1360 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 2: just sense it. You can. You can tell that Oregon 1361 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 2: totally believes in him and Landing totally believes in him. 1362 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 2: And when you put guys on the same field, beget 1363 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 2: It's like when you put Mahomes and Lamar on the 1364 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 2: same field together. There looks like there's a significant gap. 1365 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 2: There doesn't when it's Josh Allen and Mahomes they're both great, 1366 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 2: lamar and and Malmes, there's a gap. And I when 1367 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 2: I watched that last night, that game did Drew Aller 1368 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 2: no draft favors. He didn't look like he was even 1369 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 2: on the same planet. 1370 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 1: Okay, is Oregon the only school I get, Like you said, 1371 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 1: they're newer to this right of the last three decades 1372 01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 1: twenty five years, but they don't have Have they ever 1373 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,120 Speaker 1: won a national championship in football? No, I mean definitely 1374 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 1: not in the modern era. So it's like it, Yeah, 1375 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 1: it does feel like this team and Dan Lanning with 1376 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 1: the nil, they are going to be right there. You 1377 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,440 Speaker 1: just you know, college football is a little more random 1378 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: now with some of these games injuries and stuff. You 1379 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 1: got to win multiple games. But that was I mean 1380 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 1: that tight end they got, Holy Molly, I mean m 1381 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 1: eighteen is just a monster. Their defense, you know, and 1382 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 1: this goes back to Mario. They have recruited and Chip 1383 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 1: did you know, the Forest Buckner and Eric Armstead and 1384 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 1: some of the guys they used to have. They have 1385 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 1: a very physical team because Penn State, that's the one 1386 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 1: thing they hang their hat on. We're one of the fastest, 1387 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 1: most physical. We're an SEC defense and Oregon's like, okay, 1388 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 1: so are we. So it's like, well, if you're going 1389 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 1: to get that quarterback, play because listen, Dylan Gabriel, good player. 1390 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 1: I know obviously that no. 1391 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 2: Football seasons here, and if you want to go to 1392 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 2: an NFL or college football game, game Time is the 1393 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 2: place for you. The Game Time app just gives you 1394 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 2: the advantage back to you, the fans. It's a hack 1395 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,880 Speaker 2: for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences and a few taps. 1396 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 2: I love it easy to use. 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You know, the otter thing 1411 01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 2: I'll bring up before we get to the Ryder Cup 1412 01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 2: is that I was at the USC game and you 1413 01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 2: know they were missing. 1414 01:08:58,720 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 1: How far is that away from your house? 1415 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,680 Speaker 2: Two and a half hour train ride, two and a 1416 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,599 Speaker 2: half hour drive. It was warm and it was still. 1417 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 2: There was no you know, it's it's farm country, so 1418 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,760 Speaker 2: it was warm and not covered, so you know, the 1419 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:17,719 Speaker 2: players it was hot. But when Danton Lynn came to USC, 1420 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,600 Speaker 2: the UCLA defensive coordinator, they went and bought him and 1421 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,599 Speaker 2: they brought him over and immediately the defense was better. 1422 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:29,800 Speaker 2: And everybody was criticizing Lincoln Riley because Jaden Malevi throws 1423 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,439 Speaker 2: to Lemon for the go ahead, touched down with like 1424 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 2: a minute fifty five left, and J Mack goes, oh, 1425 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,960 Speaker 2: they won, And I text J Mac. I said, Illinois 1426 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 2: has a great kicker. USC secondary is awful, can't tackle, 1427 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 2: They're missing their best safety. I said, Jmack, Illinois is 1428 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 2: going to drive down the field and hit the game 1429 01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 2: winning field goal. Ended up being closer than I thought 1430 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,160 Speaker 2: it would, I said, but if you were, you know, 1431 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 2: I was at the game, Illinois was the much better team. 1432 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,479 Speaker 2: Illinois moved the ball up and down the field. USC 1433 01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,040 Speaker 2: got no pass rush, and it it was I was 1434 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,719 Speaker 2: swimming around on the internet, you know, last night, looking 1435 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:08,280 Speaker 2: at stuff, and somebody brought up the point. I didn't 1436 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 2: write it down, but somebody brought up the point. They said, 1437 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 2: the defense has gotten softer. They're bigger, there's no question 1438 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 2: there how much they paid for size in the nil portal. 1439 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 2: They went and paid for size, and they've got it. 1440 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,880 Speaker 2: And they recruited a couple of big time freshmen, one 1441 01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,439 Speaker 2: from Canada, one from Florida, A Keem Stewart. 1442 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,880 Speaker 1: He was number four, that eighteen year old pass rusher. 1443 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 1: He's a moster. 1444 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Keemsteart's gonna be really good next year. If they 1445 01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 2: can keep their guys, they're gonna have a good d line. 1446 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 2: No pressure. Illinois got eaten alive up front by Indiana. 1447 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,840 Speaker 2: USC got no pressure. And somebody pointed out they said, 1448 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:46,880 Speaker 2: the longer Linn is with Lincoln Riley, the softer the 1449 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 2: defense gets and we can keep blaming Alex Grinch when 1450 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,560 Speaker 2: you go to Oklahoma. One of the knocks was defensively, 1451 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 2: they weren't stoops as defense, they weren't as physical. They 1452 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,880 Speaker 2: couldn't make big stops. And somebody pointed out, like, is 1453 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,599 Speaker 2: it practice? Nobody questions the offense. I mean they were 1454 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:10,200 Speaker 2: missing offensive linemen. They had, you know, a guard playing 1455 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,760 Speaker 2: right tackle, right left tackle. I mean they were all 1456 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,960 Speaker 2: over and that's tough on the road. Their college kids, 1457 01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 2: and they scored plenty of points, but they couldn't stop 1458 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,600 Speaker 2: the fighting. A LINEI and sort of an average college quarterback. 1459 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,920 Speaker 2: They don't have big dime receivers. Offensive line got eaten 1460 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 2: alive by Indiana. And I sat there and I'm like, 1461 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:36,479 Speaker 2: is it Lincoln, is it practice? It's just once again 1462 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:42,680 Speaker 2: an incredibly soft defense. Can you can You can talk 1463 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,839 Speaker 2: about injuries. Yes, they were missing Kamari Ramsey, the safety, 1464 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:50,280 Speaker 2: but Illinois was more physical. For three and a half hours. 1465 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,679 Speaker 1: I kind of checked out. And then when the game 1466 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 1: did they have multiple fumbles to even get back into 1467 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,720 Speaker 1: the game, like Illinois gave them the ball back. It 1468 01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,800 Speaker 1: should not have been. They were getting their ask kick, 1469 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 1: Yeah they. 1470 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,479 Speaker 2: Got and I don't want to say breaks, because they 1471 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,120 Speaker 2: created the fumbles. Eric Gentry is the best defensive player 1472 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,559 Speaker 2: of the linebacker punched the ball out. So again, they 1473 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 2: were very opportunistic defensively in two occasions. But Illinois was 1474 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,680 Speaker 2: clearly the better team and did whatever they wanted offensively. 1475 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,599 Speaker 1: I watched the first half. I was flying back from 1476 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 1: New York on the plane and they just lost sixty 1477 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 1: three to ten. And Beilama is a tough guy and 1478 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 1: they won nine games last year, so you knew, especially 1479 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,960 Speaker 1: big newon kicksoffs there, that you were going to get 1480 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,439 Speaker 1: a team ready to play. So if you're Lincoln all 1481 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,320 Speaker 1: week long, you guys, listen that sixty three to ten 1482 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,679 Speaker 1: means nothing. This team is going to come out swinging. 1483 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,000 Speaker 1: And then that game opened up and it looked like 1484 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,720 Speaker 1: a Belama team from Wisconsin. They hit him right in 1485 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 1: the mouth and then they were also they ran like 1486 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,880 Speaker 1: the Philly special. I just went there just getting out coaching, 1487 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:53,639 Speaker 1: and that worked. Now I will defend West Coast teams 1488 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,760 Speaker 1: in general traveling and the big it's a really it's 1489 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,360 Speaker 1: weird on her, but that was they just showed up 1490 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,720 Speaker 1: pretty flat. They were getting warked, and clearly Illinois is 1491 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,360 Speaker 1: not as bad as what we win this but you're 1492 01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 1: getting a really good coach like Bielima is a tough guy. 1493 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,479 Speaker 1: I say this all the time. You don't fake being 1494 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 1: tough you either. You know the hardballer Dan Campbell. They 1495 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,759 Speaker 1: just are tough guys, right, And some of the offensive 1496 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:19,599 Speaker 1: guys that aren't a McVeigh, laflora Kyle, they have to 1497 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 1: make sure to emphasize that on personnel, right. So you 1498 01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 1: just got to the leach guys. Now you could say 1499 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:28,960 Speaker 1: Lincoln's offense and I bet he would say is a 1500 01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,719 Speaker 1: lot different than what I was taught in fifteen twenty 1501 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 1: years ago for Mike. But like, clearly they didn't recruit 1502 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,720 Speaker 1: Alabama Ohio State defensive players, but they were never going 1503 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,719 Speaker 1: on defense because how do you get good practicing against 1504 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,559 Speaker 1: that offense? So to me, there's a direct correlation in 1505 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,559 Speaker 1: the way you practice, Like why have Andy Reid's teams 1506 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,120 Speaker 1: been He's an offensive guy for twenty five years. Ask 1507 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,639 Speaker 1: any player that's ever played for practice is hard, yes, 1508 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,320 Speaker 1: and practice the arm our, chin straps are buckled up. 1509 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,800 Speaker 1: We're not doing walkthroughs. You say, the Eagles are a 1510 01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,360 Speaker 1: good example. They don't necessarily practice as hard fan. Joe 1511 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 1: will say that they get elite players, right, so you 1512 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,479 Speaker 1: got to do one of the two. And Lincoln's his 1513 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,000 Speaker 1: practices are never going to be Nick Sabans or Kirby Smarts. 1514 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 1: They're just not Look at Deboor, you know, de boor 1515 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 1: former offensive lineman, like he's kind of a tough guy. 1516 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,599 Speaker 1: His teams are pretty tough, though he likes to throw 1517 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,320 Speaker 1: the ball. I think they practiced pretty hard. It's pretty serious. 1518 01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Lincoln doesn't practice are but his offense 1519 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:28,439 Speaker 1: clearly doesn't create physicality in practice. And if you're not 1520 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 1: getting Pete Carroll's recruiting classes, they've done better right the 1521 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,920 Speaker 1: last twelve months and to look better moving forward. But 1522 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,280 Speaker 1: right now the and thedn't wasn't their safety down. He 1523 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:37,639 Speaker 1: got sick or something the night before. 1524 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 2: Come on, threw up that hurt because they're not good 1525 01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:43,120 Speaker 2: in the secondary to start, so like he's their best player. 1526 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,000 Speaker 1: But they showed up flat and Beilama's team showed up 1527 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,639 Speaker 1: to win that game immediately, and it was like, damn, 1528 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,280 Speaker 1: the USC was going to be in for a fight 1529 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 1: early on. And let's face it, they're just what I 1530 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 1: think people's expectations for what for this program. It just 1531 01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 1: hasn't quite been the same. Where on the flip side, 1532 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't you say? And listen, we were like after that 1533 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,679 Speaker 1: Debor Florida State game, like this is kind of weird. 1534 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,120 Speaker 1: It's gotta give and how about that comeback over the 1535 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:08,840 Speaker 1: last month. I mean, you know what that guy is. 1536 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,439 Speaker 1: He's beaten Sark, he's beaten Landing, he's beaten Winningham, he's 1537 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,280 Speaker 1: now beating Kirby Twise like lies. They had an awful day. 1538 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:16,639 Speaker 1: But I'm watching them last night. 1539 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:20,839 Speaker 2: It's not easy to play National Championship easy? Easy? 1540 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,599 Speaker 1: Who? He gets a grub weird fit in the NFL 1541 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,840 Speaker 1: with McDonald and Schneider. It didn't work. He does work 1542 01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 1: with the Boor being his right hand guy, and he 1543 01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,639 Speaker 1: had Ty Simpson looking like, you know, an NFL player. 1544 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:37,280 Speaker 1: So I just went coaching still really matters, and it's 1545 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: harder in college because you're not you know, the twenty hours, 1546 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,120 Speaker 1: even if that doesn't matter much. 1547 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,080 Speaker 2: But I sent a tweet this morning, I said success 1548 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,720 Speaker 2: is hard and it takes a lot longer than the 1549 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 2: media and fans want to admit. But Calin de Boor's 1550 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 2: coaching last night was. It was magnificent and Greg Byrn 1551 01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,120 Speaker 2: texts me the idiot Alabama and we had a little 1552 01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,960 Speaker 2: chit chat about the process of hiring him, and he 1553 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 2: just said he's just such a great, great guy. Can't 1554 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,679 Speaker 2: go into too much what he said, but the point 1555 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 2: was being is I mean Nick Saban lost to Louisianaman. 1556 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 1: They were fit. Georgia hadn't lost in like thirty five 1557 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 1: games at home. 1558 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 2: And by Georgia. Now Kirby sparts one to seven against Bama. 1559 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 2: I think, like, all I know is I watched that 1560 01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 2: coaching in the first half, the play calling. I watched 1561 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:24,760 Speaker 2: Bama last night, and I'm like, if you told me 1562 01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,639 Speaker 2: Bama meets Ohio State in the Natty, I'd be like, Yeah, 1563 01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,439 Speaker 2: that's right, that's what's gonna happen, or Bama plays Oregon. 1564 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:34,200 Speaker 2: I think Oregon's win at Penn State and Bama's win 1565 01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:39,639 Speaker 2: are as impressive college wins. As impressive as college wins 1566 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,000 Speaker 2: get kids in those environments. 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First of all, they you know, they trim 1576 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,960 Speaker 2: the rough, so the rough wasn't punitive at all, and 1577 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 2: it became a putting contest essentially, and the Europeans get 1578 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,280 Speaker 2: to draft select from a much larger pool than we do. 1579 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,639 Speaker 2: But I just watching it. My take was this because 1580 01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,640 Speaker 2: I heard Payne Stewart was a great captain of the 1581 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,519 Speaker 2: Ryder Cup team, the late Payne Stewart, Paul Aisinger. Again, 1582 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:44,000 Speaker 2: those guys had incredible leadership qualities. And I'm not criticizing 1583 01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,840 Speaker 2: anybody for the United States, but it felt different. I 1584 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:52,920 Speaker 2: feel like we're just kind of every two years spitballing, 1585 01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,320 Speaker 2: and you can't have this guy play with that guy. 1586 01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,960 Speaker 2: And we have a smaller pool, and we didn't play terror. 1587 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,080 Speaker 2: I mean, the Europeans did not miss putts. They didn't 1588 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,320 Speaker 2: miss Putts. It was a putting contest essentially, But I 1589 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,439 Speaker 2: do feel like for the Europeans they're better at team selecting. 1590 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:15,160 Speaker 2: It feels like it's a bigger deal. The chemistry works. 1591 01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:18,080 Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like you have as many egos, and 1592 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,360 Speaker 2: I'm I didn't get to watch as much as I 1593 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:21,720 Speaker 2: wanted to because I was glued to a T I 1594 01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:23,320 Speaker 2: went to the USC game. I was glued to a 1595 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 2: TV the last two days for twelve hours each day. 1596 01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 2: But I watched a lot of highlights and anytime I 1597 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,000 Speaker 2: could get it, I chased it. And I went to 1598 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,800 Speaker 2: people that I really respect in the golf industry, and 1599 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:41,679 Speaker 2: I just feel like chemistry importance. How much does it matter? 1600 01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,000 Speaker 2: You know, they have like a Ryder Cup committee like 1601 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,479 Speaker 2: the Masters does, and it feels like, you know, in 1602 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,479 Speaker 2: the NFL we talked about how you're as good as 1603 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,400 Speaker 2: your front office. I feel like the writer the European 1604 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,880 Speaker 2: Ryder Cup front office is really good. 1605 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,200 Speaker 1: You know, you and I are good examples. We got 1606 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,880 Speaker 1: pretty lucky. We were born in a country where we 1607 01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 1: didn't need to leave it to do exactly what we 1608 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,160 Speaker 1: wanted to do. For Rory McElroy to be the best 1609 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,160 Speaker 1: golfer in the world. He had to come to America. 1610 01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,040 Speaker 1: Same with Shane Lowry. Well, they both grew up together, 1611 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,320 Speaker 1: so they've known each other for twenty five plus years. 1612 01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,439 Speaker 1: They're both mid thirties, so when they play together and 1613 01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,320 Speaker 1: they won both their matches, those guys have been friends, 1614 01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,679 Speaker 1: like growing up in Royal Port, Rush for twenty five 1615 01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,960 Speaker 1: plus years. They've known each other price since they were eight, nine, 1616 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 1: ten years old. You can't Scottie Scheffler's twenty eight years old, 1617 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,960 Speaker 1: so their friendship goes as long as he is old. 1618 01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:39,280 Speaker 1: You can't the way Tommy Fleetwood holds justin Rose. Those 1619 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,559 Speaker 1: guys are both from the UK. They have known each 1620 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,519 Speaker 1: other forever and there is a bond that those guys have. 1621 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:49,040 Speaker 1: Terrell Hatton and Rahm dominated as a pairing these international 1622 01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,439 Speaker 1: guys imagine coming to America. Now, by the time they 1623 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 1: become stars, they make a lot of money, they can 1624 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,240 Speaker 1: live in the best places. They still don't know anyone here. 1625 01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,080 Speaker 1: You know, I meet people that knew my dad or 1626 01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:02,280 Speaker 1: whatever living in areas like there's just they don't have that. 1627 01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 1: Like Roy McElroy is not going to go to the 1628 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 1: store in Kansas and go you know, I grew up 1629 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,000 Speaker 1: with your dad and text it like that's it doesn't exist. 1630 01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,479 Speaker 1: So you are a true You're a foreigner coming here 1631 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,599 Speaker 1: and those guys are the only people you know, probably 1632 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,960 Speaker 1: especially those before you become stars. So that bond and 1633 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:24,120 Speaker 1: that relationship is different than our guys, who again they care. 1634 01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,519 Speaker 1: Getting meant a lot t keik in, but you can't 1635 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,320 Speaker 1: fact factor in. And I was telling someone this when 1636 01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 1: we were back locking up a nice big deal for 1637 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,880 Speaker 1: the volume on Thursday night, that when you do a 1638 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,760 Speaker 1: deal in business, think how much more comfortable you are. 1639 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,840 Speaker 1: Like you've known Jamie Horror. It's a long time, yeah, 1640 01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,400 Speaker 1: so when you do something with him, you are much 1641 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,240 Speaker 1: more confident if you were just doing a business deal 1642 01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,200 Speaker 1: with a guy you met last week or last year. 1643 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,920 Speaker 1: There is something to be said when you hear about 1644 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,519 Speaker 1: some of these business partnerships or sports partnerships. Steph Clay 1645 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,800 Speaker 1: and Draymond played together for fifteen years, so when they 1646 01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,880 Speaker 1: won that championship in twenty twenty two, they had kohe 1647 01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:04,040 Speaker 1: built for over a decade. That matters, And there's something 1648 01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,320 Speaker 1: like that in golf especially, it's not just for four 1649 01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 1: round stroke play. It's your dependent two of the rounds 1650 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,639 Speaker 1: are literally alternate shot. So you don't think Roy McElroy 1651 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,400 Speaker 1: and Shane Lowry tried that out when they were fourteen 1652 01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,559 Speaker 1: years old playing on some crappy muni with no one watching, 1653 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,120 Speaker 1: Like you can't fake that. I mean, And there's also 1654 01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,360 Speaker 1: a we're a little bit more of an individualistic society 1655 01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:26,439 Speaker 1: over here in America. 1656 01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,719 Speaker 2: Band you know, historically had bands. We had rock stars, 1657 01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,559 Speaker 2: We had Elvis or James Brown. They had bands, they 1658 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,600 Speaker 2: had the Beatles. Because you had to back then, you 1659 01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,160 Speaker 2: had to share equipment. You didn't have the money to 1660 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,120 Speaker 2: buy your own equipment. I mean, it's like legendary if 1661 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:40,720 Speaker 2: you go back and read the stories of it, Like 1662 01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,320 Speaker 2: European kids had to join a band. You know, we 1663 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,439 Speaker 2: have a different society, so we elevate the individual which 1664 01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:52,519 Speaker 2: is really beneficial. We celebrate success, but it does feel 1665 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:53,639 Speaker 2: like it matters more to them. 1666 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 1: I would say this too, that they are pretty mentally tough. 1667 01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:02,160 Speaker 1: When I was there on Friday, it wasn't as bad, 1668 01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,320 Speaker 1: but yesterday I think it got pretty aggressive toward Rory, 1669 01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,280 Speaker 1: and they could handle it pretty well. I mean, I 1670 01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,479 Speaker 1: don't know if it was flip flopped and our guys 1671 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,160 Speaker 1: were getting it, we would have crumbled. Honestly, it felt 1672 01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,240 Speaker 1: like they got more energy. And part of it is, 1673 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean Rory Rahm and any Fleetwood he'll win more. 1674 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Rory's gonna go down as one of the 1675 01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:25,400 Speaker 1: greatest players of all time. Rom you know, he's already 1676 01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:26,960 Speaker 1: won a couple of majors. He could end with four 1677 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,360 Speaker 1: or five. He's an all time great talent. Fleetwood clearly 1678 01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,160 Speaker 1: is one of the better players going right now. When 1679 01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,080 Speaker 1: we you and I went to Live Hatton, who is 1680 01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,519 Speaker 1: an unreal player, Shane Lowry is just a vibess guide 1681 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,040 Speaker 1: is awesome. They have some serious talent who clearly are 1682 01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,040 Speaker 1: mentally tough. Because Colin that was there were Europeans there, 1683 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,599 Speaker 1: but it was a lot of intoxicated Americans and as 1684 01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:49,560 Speaker 1: the day went on it was hot and sunny. I 1685 01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,640 Speaker 1: think saying, I mean Rory got his wife, got a 1686 01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:53,320 Speaker 1: beer port on her and. 1687 01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,800 Speaker 2: Think he came back today, like listen, Ryder Cup It's no, 1688 01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 2: it's not the Phoenix Open, but it's known as rowdy, so. 1689 01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm not against it. I'm just saying, but they can 1690 01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,360 Speaker 1: handle it where I just don't know if you had 1691 01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,920 Speaker 1: flip flopped it, especially like JJ Spahn, I like JJ 1692 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,360 Speaker 1: spond Could you know, could those guys have handled or 1693 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,400 Speaker 1: even Scottie Scheffler just saying mean things about his kid 1694 01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,720 Speaker 1: like that that's gonna happen and that's part of the 1695 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,880 Speaker 1: Ryder Cup. But what they were able to endure and play, 1696 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean, they had the greatest two day run in 1697 01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,760 Speaker 1: the history of the event. And every player that's worth 1698 01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,559 Speaker 1: their salt over the last one hundred years have played 1699 01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,960 Speaker 1: in this thing. They it was basically it was impossible 1700 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:28,639 Speaker 1: for them to lose, and we were mounting the greatest 1701 01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,960 Speaker 1: comeback of all time and it was still fell well 1702 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,840 Speaker 1: short because of the lead they had developed through two days. 1703 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, people are saying they should cut alcohol sales, or 1704 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,320 Speaker 2: they should cut the crowd in half. I just thought 1705 01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,920 Speaker 2: it became a putting contest and they putted better than 1706 01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:47,360 Speaker 2: we did. Like Chambly, Brendan Chamblee was on the Golf 1707 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,000 Speaker 2: Channel and he has now it's been seen by you know, 1708 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,400 Speaker 2: a million people, but he just said, like, I mean 1709 01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,200 Speaker 2: I looked it up now. I don't know if it 1710 01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,200 Speaker 2: finished this way, but at one point Europe had eight 1711 01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,519 Speaker 2: of the top nine putters at the Ryder Cup, some 1712 01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,479 Speaker 2: of these I didn't feel like they missed. So, you know, 1713 01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,640 Speaker 2: I like the Ryder Cup. It's just this weekend. It 1714 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:06,520 Speaker 2: was impossible. 1715 01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,080 Speaker 1: It's hard to keep. No, it was totally. It was 1716 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,280 Speaker 1: the One thing I say about the alcohol sales is 1717 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,719 Speaker 1: this had to be besides like the f one in Vegas, 1718 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,360 Speaker 1: the most expensive American ticket, Like, I mean, it was 1719 01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:21,360 Speaker 1: a thousand plus dollars for general admission. And you're walking 1720 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,640 Speaker 1: in the boxes, you know, walking in or like it 1721 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,479 Speaker 1: says Goldman Sacks. So it's not This is not the 1722 01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,880 Speaker 1: top bowl of a Bill's Patriot game where you could 1723 01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,600 Speaker 1: get in for fifty dollars. And I promise you this. 1724 01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,680 Speaker 1: I had a few of them. The cocktails were all 1725 01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,639 Speaker 1: like twenty two to twenty five dollars. So the people 1726 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:43,280 Speaker 1: screaming this stuff, I mean, it's probably a finance guy more, 1727 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, Merrill Lynch, right, you know, it's not just 1728 01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,880 Speaker 1: like your normal riff raft. It's some of these sporting events. 1729 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,599 Speaker 1: So it gets a little hostile, gets crazy. But they 1730 01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,439 Speaker 1: kicked our ass, and yeah, it was. It was quite it. 1731 01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,160 Speaker 1: It's a pretty incredible events, just the amount of people 1732 01:24:59,200 --> 01:24:59,599 Speaker 1: out there. 1733 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,640 Speaker 2: You know what though, the truth is, John, if you 1734 01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,280 Speaker 2: go to the history of whether it's the World Cup 1735 01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,960 Speaker 2: for the Americans if we're embarrassed, or the Olympics. We 1736 01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:13,160 Speaker 2: don't like to be humiliated, and we kind of got humiliated. 1737 01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,000 Speaker 2: There tends to be tipping points for our country. I mean, 1738 01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,599 Speaker 2: like remember when John Thompson, the late John Thompson took 1739 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,840 Speaker 2: a basketball team to the Olympics and they got beat 1740 01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:24,400 Speaker 2: and then we were like, okay, we're gonna have our 1741 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:28,000 Speaker 2: pros go like we're done with this shit. The history 1742 01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:32,240 Speaker 2: of this country is when we get humiliated or taunted, 1743 01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:36,320 Speaker 2: we tend to bounce back. Sometimes we get apathetic, and 1744 01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,960 Speaker 2: Europe does not with a Ryder Cup and we do, 1745 01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,040 Speaker 2: and you know, the world's biggest economy along with China, 1746 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,600 Speaker 2: and I think it will wake us up and to 1747 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,360 Speaker 2: take it more seriously. But if you look, I mean, 1748 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,280 Speaker 2: obviously this is where you want to golf if you're 1749 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,160 Speaker 2: the world's great as golfer. But it I just feel 1750 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:58,920 Speaker 2: like everything I read this weekend, it's more meaningful and 1751 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,600 Speaker 2: more organized. The Europeans do a better job of it. 1752 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,320 Speaker 1: Well, I'll give you an idea. We got a guy, 1753 01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, Keigan Bradley, was if he wasn't the captain, 1754 01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:08,639 Speaker 1: he would have been on the team, so he played 1755 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,280 Speaker 1: a full schedule, did excellent. Well, I know, a guy 1756 01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,599 Speaker 1: that's pretty patriotic used to train with the Navy Seals. 1757 01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't have much going on anymore in terms of 1758 01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 1: he's not a players. Tiger Woods who kind of turned 1759 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,080 Speaker 1: this one down. Uh, he got injured and you know, 1760 01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:23,800 Speaker 1: the tour was going through a lot of stuff. But 1761 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,840 Speaker 1: to me, it's like, hey, Tiger, you're going to be 1762 01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 1: the captain for the next six We'll sign you to 1763 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,760 Speaker 1: like a three you know event deal. Over the course 1764 01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,280 Speaker 1: of six years, there'll be three different we want you 1765 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,040 Speaker 1: to do it. You have all your ideas, you build 1766 01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,720 Speaker 1: this team. Honestly, there were times today and Keegan's good 1767 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,040 Speaker 1: buddies with Michael Jordan. I can imagine some of our 1768 01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,519 Speaker 1: guys looking over kind of get intimidated seeing Michael, like 1769 01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,400 Speaker 1: I it's good Michael, Like for Scotti, Scheffler. Maybe we 1770 01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,759 Speaker 1: got some other guys that have never been in this environment. 1771 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,800 Speaker 1: They look leftter there's Michael freaking Jordan. I mean that 1772 01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,680 Speaker 1: might have been a lot, but he's not nice to 1773 01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:57,560 Speaker 1: win for the Europeans. 1774 01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,880 Speaker 2: John middle Coaff, former NFL scout three and out Go 1775 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,519 Speaker 2: Low his golf podcast and hour and a half. This 1776 01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,280 Speaker 2: was fun. Thanks Buddy, see you Colin. 1777 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:10,160 Speaker 1: The volume