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Speaker 1: the wrong side of the pump tension it. It looks right,

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Speaker 1: but you're actually spinning the water pump backwards. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: the car Doctor, the fire is burning so hot it

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Speaker 1: hydrogen and oxygen. So you now have a fuel and

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Speaker 1: the fire. Welcome to the radio home of ron Andanian,

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the

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Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on repair. If

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Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but

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Speaker 1: I am here to take your call at eight five

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Speaker 1: five five and now he running. Yes, since uh we've

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Speaker 1: been taking your calls. Look at that right, we're geez.

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Speaker 1: I guess this is um. We're into the thirtieth year now, Tom,

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Speaker 1: we're getting old. So Tom, I want you to know

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Speaker 1: that you've aged a little bit. What do you mean

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Speaker 1: we so well? You know, I remember when you used

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Speaker 1: to have hair. Hey, Tom, how how come working with

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Speaker 1: me all your hair to fall out? It's kind of

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Speaker 1: like being married. Run. Oh gosh, I love you. Tom.

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Speaker 1: Tom was in Iowa this week, Um, and it was

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Speaker 1: just funny to hear Tom called. Tom called me from

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Speaker 1: my away. He flew up. Where'd you go? You went

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Speaker 1: up through Minneapolis and then drove down. Yeah. I primarily

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Speaker 1: was to uh take an eleven hour flight to Damion, Iowa. UM.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, no. I gave you a call and

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Speaker 1: we were talking about right to repair and the size

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Speaker 1: of the tractors and the fact that there are miles

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Speaker 1: long farms out there. It's incredible. Yeah, And and right

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Speaker 1: to repair came up again this week in the news.

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Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to research it, but the

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Speaker 1: FTC has is now backing right to repair. Mr Cooper,

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Speaker 1: another member of our research team are volunteer research team

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Speaker 1: at the very least, UH sent me in a note

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Speaker 1: I have to I have to research that and talk

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Speaker 1: about that next week. We'll bring that up. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you talk about these giant tractors and what it takes

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Speaker 1: to repair some of these things. You know, Tom, the

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Speaker 1: average farm was how many acres big it was? It was,

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Speaker 1: and and I passed. I'm gonna guess what this thing

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Speaker 1: the car I was driving. I was driving a Toyota

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Speaker 1: when that breaks? And you know you're out in the

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Speaker 1: helping to keep this country going. So essential workers all,

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Speaker 1: Let's go Paul Minnesota battery story, and then we'll go

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Speaker 1: pull Minnesota Grand Prix. So, Paul, Minnesota battery story. How

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Speaker 1: are you, Paul? Well, how do you? Yes, sir, do

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Speaker 1: you hear me? Okay? Sure, Ken, So can everybody else?

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Speaker 1: So what's on your parent yesterday? All right? I was

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Speaker 1: what's really need, Paul, is if you use a thermal

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Speaker 1: Many nights, I'll walk over to that battery drained car

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Speaker 1: inside the console where the self charging ports are, because

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Speaker 1: you know, all good stuff, All good stuff. Paul. We

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Speaker 1: You sound like you're we don't want to get your hurt. Um,

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Speaker 1: take contributions from our listenership. Absolutely. Paul, Minnesota, Oh eight,

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Speaker 1: the air filter and the cleaned on the mass careful sensor. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And there was no difference, and it seemed to help

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But it didn't take it away all right?

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Speaker 1: When you look at the transmission, the the the gears, right,

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Speaker 1: Does that make a difference in how it operates? But

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Speaker 1: and it's probably been doing this for a while. It

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Speaker 1: But is it a misfire such that the engine is

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Speaker 1: So that's right, right? So do you ever get it?

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Speaker 1: it a little crisp burn? It's not a sluggish response? Right?

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Speaker 1: but just enough so that it uh, you know, you

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Speaker 1: of a transmission is within an engine issue, call me back.

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Speaker 1: We can talk about it further from there. All right, sir,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to fixing cars, Ron has card advice

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Speaker 1: done right eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 1: How can I help? Yeah, well, thank you for taking

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Speaker 1: there's a reason I'm telling you this story. Just stay

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Speaker 1: with me a minute. Here the PCM was sending out

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Speaker 1: a quarter vaults on the signal return for the ERO two,

429
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Speaker 1: causing it to read incorrectly but in the valid range.

430
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Speaker 1: When the mass airflow was unplugged, it forced the PCM

431
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Speaker 1: to run an open loop and it would run perfect

432
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Speaker 1: and close thet B with surge. The problem was that

433
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Speaker 1: the downstream oh two centser was providing incorrect input. They

434
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Speaker 1: put a PCM in this and the vehicle was fixed.

435
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: The problem was in the PCM, not in anything else. Remember,

436
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Speaker 1: before the beginning of this hour, we were talking to

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Speaker 1: Paul in Minnesota. Keep coming back to the two poles

438
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Speaker 1: this hour, but Paul in Minnesota with the Grand Prix

439
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Speaker 1: and the vehicle surge, and one of the things I

440
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Speaker 1: talked about was where's fuel trim. Fuel trim is probably

441
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Speaker 1: heart rate and blood pressure to a vehicle today, just

442
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Speaker 1: like it was for this this f four fifty. They

443
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Speaker 1: needed to know what fuel trim was because they were

444
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Speaker 1: seeing an imbalance and air fuel mixture in the way

445
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Speaker 1: the vehicle operated and what it was creating. And I

446
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Speaker 1: really think that we've got to change our minds. We've

447
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Speaker 1: got to change how we approach cars. We've got to

448
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Speaker 1: change we've got to change how we approach working on cars,

449
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: and we've got to be willing to pay for testing.

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Speaker 1: You the consumer and shops have to want to be

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Speaker 1: able to do it, which I know a lot of

452
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Speaker 1: them do. They're hesitant because it takes time, and time

453
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Speaker 1: is money in the in the repair world. But I

454
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Speaker 1: really see the day where you're gonna see a labor

455
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Speaker 1: up of scan all vehicles, scan all modules on this vehicle,

456
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Speaker 1: store record, print and file, and then I think you're

457
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Speaker 1: gonna see the day where it's you're gonna pay a

458
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Speaker 1: charge for this, and you're gonna the vehicle is gonna

459
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Speaker 1: go out on the road and they're gonna run it

460
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Speaker 1: through its paces and record that information because it's gonna

461
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: be good, solid information known good helps fix a problem

462
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: vehicle every time you have something to compare it to.

463
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Speaker 1: So just you know, another great one from the folks

464
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Speaker 1: over at mitchell one mitchell one dot com, the short

465
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Speaker 1: trek community that um exists, and it's always good to

466
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Speaker 1: have a second head to bounce information and ideas off of,

467
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: because nobody out there can know any one thing. It's

468
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Speaker 1: just not everything. It's just there's just too much going

469
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Speaker 1: on with cars today. But the way they broke this

470
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Speaker 1: down and strategize it, they look at fuel trim, They

471
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: looked at the way the catalytic converters were operating, and

472
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Speaker 1: they realized that the problem was in the way the

473
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Speaker 1: PCM was functioning, that it had a problem with the

474
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Speaker 1: main engine computer, even though the catalytic converter had been replaced,

475
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Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. Maybe the problem was

476
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: there prior to the cat being stolen, but now the

477
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Speaker 1: shop is stuck with it. It's ever since they ever

478
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Speaker 1: since syndrome they touched it. Now they've got to fix it,

479
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: and they did so. Just something to think about. Diagnostics

480
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Speaker 1: is a step by step process. Let's pull over and

481
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Speaker 1: take a pause. Five zero we're on any of the

482
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Speaker 1: car doctor coming back right after this. Yeah, welcome bag

483
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Speaker 1: a car doctor eight five zero zero the car Doctor

484
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Speaker 1: seven phone number. Give us a shout. If you miss

485
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Speaker 1: us up here on air, call us, leave a message

486
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Speaker 1: Tom Raley, get you in Q for the next live broadcast.

487
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Speaker 1: Um you see the article and yeahoo. Finance Ford BMW

488
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: lead a hundred and thirty million dollar investing round in

489
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: solid state battery startup and the article goes on to

490
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: talk came out this past week. The article goes into

491
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: how they're developing and investing all this money in battery technology,

492
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Speaker 1: trying to get down the cost of batteries for electric

493
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Speaker 1: vehicles for the electric vehicle future. So I earned thirty

494
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: million dollars a drop in the bucket. You know, auto

495
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: repair automobiles are just such a big dollars. It's all

496
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: about It's all about, you know, the the expense or

497
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Speaker 1: or or or or spending money making money. Recent article

498
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Speaker 1: Kathy Research. Kathy handed me from some of her endeavors

499
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Speaker 1: this week the Transportation and Climate Initiative, a collaboration between

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Speaker 1: twelve Northeast and mid Atlantic states. This comes to this

501
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Speaker 1: courtesy of Triple A UM aimed to reduce carbon emissions

502
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Speaker 1: from the transportation sector as a new program that plans

503
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Speaker 1: to substantially cut greenhouse gas pollution while simultaneously investing billions,

504
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Speaker 1: that's billions with a B in cleaner transportation. The TCI

505
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: program would require fuel suppliers, see I don't understand this,

506
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Speaker 1: to purchase allowances for the pollution their fuel produces. So,

507
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: in other words, we're gonna make something that makes pollution,

508
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: and if we throw more money at it, that makes

509
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: it okay. Because why I don't I don't understand that.

510
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Speaker 1: If it's bad and there's pollution, what do I though?

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Speaker 1: It's an estimated program that will generate You're ready for this,

512
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Speaker 1: because it's okay to have pollution if you're getting paid

513
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: enough for it three million dollars each year and cut

514
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Speaker 1: motor vehicle emissions by over a ten year period. Well,

515
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm just in time for the electric vehicle revolution which

516
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: was going to happen. Money raised from these purchases would

517
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Speaker 1: fund environmentally sustainable initiatives. I'd like to see that. Last December,

518
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Speaker 1: the governors of Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and the mayor

519
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Speaker 1: of Washington to d C announced their commitment to join

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Speaker 1: the program, which goes into effect in other states, including

521
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Speaker 1: New York and New Jersey. Tom, we're part of this,

522
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: said they would continue to collaborate on the project, likening

523
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: the chances of them joining the program as well. Uh,

524
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: that means the cost of our cars are going up again. Well,

525
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: it's yeah, I mean it's it's it's inevitable that that's

526
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I just find it hard to believe that

527
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Speaker 1: we can if we generate three million. That justifies why

528
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: it's okay for the year to be dirty. Um see,

529
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Speaker 1: I guess the whole thing with pollution. I was reading

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Speaker 1: an article on one of the mechanics forums this morning

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Speaker 1: and they were talking about our twelve, remember our twelve refrigerant,

532
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Speaker 1: and a fella up in Seattle, Washington was having problems

533
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Speaker 1: with his R twelve machine and he had questions on

534
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Speaker 1: where to get parts and how he's able to scrounge

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Speaker 1: up enough our twelve for older vehicles, which technically I believe,

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Speaker 1: I believe the one respondent and said, that's against the Lawy,

537
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Speaker 1: you're not supposed to be using our twelve anymore, or

538
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Speaker 1: if you are, you have to be able to recover

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Speaker 1: all of it and account for it, because it's so

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Speaker 1: harmful and so bad for the environment. And one fella

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Speaker 1: from southern California said, listen, um I can get all

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Speaker 1: the R twelve I want. It's simply a matter of

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00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: crossing the border and then just smuggling it back in,

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Speaker 1: even though I can't bring it here illegally because evidently,

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Speaker 1: according to the way he was talking in the forum,

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Speaker 1: ARE twelve is used a lot in Mexico and you know,

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Speaker 1: South American countries. And I don't understand that. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it's if we're all gonna be on the bandwagon to

549
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: clean the air, why aren't we all on the same bandwagon.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't make any sense to me. So

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00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: million for greenhouse gases up and down the Eastern seaboard,

552
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: But then what about the interior States. The wind tends

553
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: to blow everywhere. You know, Hey, Ron, is it from Chad?

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00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 1: Chad wrote me, um Ron, I've got a twenty ten

555
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: Chevy Malibu. The right front tire tire pressure sensor intermittently

556
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: reads low pressure twelve to seventeen pressures checked at thirty

557
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: two by manual gauge. Any idea yes? Um? First of all,

558
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: how do you know that the right front tire sensor

559
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: is keyed to the vehicle correctly? By that, I mean

560
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: if the tires were rotated and the position wasn't relearned,

561
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: the tire you could be looking for could be on

562
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Speaker 1: the rear, it could be on the left front, it

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00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: could be somewhere else on the vehicle. The position of

564
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: the tires has to be learned. A lot of places

565
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: won't do that because of the extra time and cost involved,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people aren't aware that that needs

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Speaker 1: to be done. So make sure the tire you're looking

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Speaker 1: at is correct as it matches that sensor. And the

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Speaker 1: way you're gonna do this is you'reither going to learn

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Speaker 1: the position to verify it, or you're going to read

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Speaker 1: the four sensors using a t PMS tool, go around

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Speaker 1: the car one to three, four or five if it's

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Speaker 1: got it in the spare, which I don't believe it

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Speaker 1: doesn't intend and then go look at the TPMs module

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Speaker 1: on a GM vehicle. It's going to be under the

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Speaker 1: remote control receiver door lock function in the BCM and

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00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: look to see are the tire pressure sensor serial numbers

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00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: are identifier numbers correctly coded to that vehicle via the

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Speaker 1: b c M. The scan tool will tell you does

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00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: the right front in the tool. That's the right front

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00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: that's recorded in the scan tool, and then you know

582
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: you're looking at the same tire. You could also just

583
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: have a bad sensor, which you probably do if all

584
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: else checks out. If they're the originals, they're ten years old.

585
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: Those batteries do go bad and they do produce erroneous signals,

586
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: so you may want to consider changing that as well,

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00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: if you do some of the other due diligence and diagnostics.

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Speaker 1: Zero zero run any of the Car Doctor coming back

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Speaker 1: right after this, welcome bad name of the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tom, I'm just reading on the official we

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Speaker 1: have to We actually have two Facebook pages. I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize that we have run any in the Car Doctor,

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00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: which is you and me because that's that's you and me,

594
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: and then we have Tom. We have a fan club.

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Speaker 1: We have the official ron and in the Car Doctor

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Speaker 1: fan club have a fan club. We have a fan

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Speaker 1: club to pay them. Uh, that's three dollars an hour.

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Speaker 1: And um Mark Goldberg wrote in Ron regarding t c I,

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Speaker 1: the Transportation Initiative for Emissions, that I was just reading

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Speaker 1: the devil's in the details. In Connecticut, for year one,

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Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty million gallons of gasoline will come

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Speaker 1: off the market. This is a disaster of past. So wait,

603
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Speaker 1: So the way we're gonna the way we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: this to have cleaner errors, just sell less gasoline. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a viable plan. I can I can

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Speaker 1: see where everybody's gonna be so happy up in Connecticut

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Speaker 1: and the upstate New York. Electrical devices for rustproof, and

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Speaker 1: we want to have a conversation here. How can I

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Speaker 1: help you? I got two minutes, kiddoh, yes, sir, just

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Speaker 1: quick one. Are they worth the money? I bought a

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Speaker 1: brand new truck. I put the electrical device on it,

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00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: which was kind of costly. And the other one I

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00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: got a two thousand seven Chevy Silverado. It's starting to rust,

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00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: so I had to nh oil under under spray treatment

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00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: done to that? Right? Was did I waste my money

616
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: on on this stuff? For not no, I think those

617
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: things have their place. But listen, I'm kind of crazy

618
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: when it comes to rustproofing. You know if if I

619
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Speaker 1: don't know, if you've ever heard me talk about it

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Speaker 1: on air. When I got my nineteen Silverado, I it'spent

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Speaker 1: a week in the shop, and of course I've got

622
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: that option. I've got the shop. I put it over

623
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Speaker 1: in third bay and we keep everything out of there.

624
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: And I took everything apart. I took the wheelhouses out,

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00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: I took the liners out, and I always spray everything

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00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: of late. Now I've been using oh when I say

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Speaker 1: of late, the past ten twelve years, Benjamin Moore low

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Speaker 1: luster alkali. You've heard me talk about this. It's not

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Speaker 1: a rust preventative paint. It's a rust inhibitor. And I

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Speaker 1: will spray the undercarriage. I cut it with about three

631
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Speaker 1: percent lacquer, and I will just if you can do

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00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: it when the vehicles knew. It's great because it's it's

633
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: all clean surfaces. Although Benjamin Moore, it would stick to

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Speaker 1: chicken feathers if you had to. All right, It's just

635
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: it's got an amazing adhesion level. It's it's basically the

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Speaker 1: paint that you used to paint mob Grandma's metal lawn

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00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: furniture back in the day. Alright, it just sort of

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00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: went on and stayed there. And I'll spray the undercarriage,

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Speaker 1: I'll spray in the wheel liners and i'll put the

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Speaker 1: wheelhouses back in. I'll spray the frame, I'll spray over

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00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: the brake lines. I don't care. UM, And as a

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Speaker 1: rust inhibitor, stuff is rock solid. You can hit it

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Speaker 1: with a hammer, it doesn't fall off. It's good stuff

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00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: and it's easy to work with. I think a combination

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Speaker 1: of that and you know, doing the electrical kids. Because

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00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: I see these electrical kits on the market and they

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00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: are getting good reviews. I believe they do work. And

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00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: I think rust as you know, you've got to embrace

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00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: the technology, right, it's it's got to be a little

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Speaker 1: of this and a little of that. I think painting

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Speaker 1: is probably the foundation of it all. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: if you've got a newer vehicle and it's gonna be

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00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: out in all sorts of high salt content, you know,

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00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: heavy snow environment, that type of thing, UM, always look

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Speaker 1: at the back bumper. UM. I actually took both bumpers

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00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: off the plow truck and I painted the inside of

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Speaker 1: both bumpers with Benjamin Moore, so I won't have the

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00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: issues of rotting out in ten years. Uh, the bumpers

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00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: will be there because you're throwing all that snow and sludge.

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Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, we see one snowflake,

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00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: we put twelve million pounds of calcium chloride down on

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Speaker 1: the ground. So but um, yeah, that's my that's my position. Andy.

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Speaker 1: You know, a little bit of paint in addition to that.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll be fine, just fine, And I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the call. Thank you, have a good rest of the weekend.

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00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car doctors saying thanks for

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00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: coming by today. The garage was open and boy at

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Speaker 1: the time just flew by until the next time. Good

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Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See