WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: We Got It All 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:09.080 I just want to say this, there is no substitute 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:13.440 for winning. I know that's a cliche, but we must win. 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:18.479 We will win. When is the name of the game. 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.520 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:33.159 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is he is 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.960 Talking Cowboys, screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:46.839 at the Star in Frisco. To the goal line. Got tit? No, 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:53.840 Your hosts, Micky Spagnola, Robbed Phillips, Everson Walls, and Bill Jones. 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.520 And there you had it right off the top, thirty 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:03.560 one years ago today, Jerry Jones taking over the Dallas 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.960 Cowboys February twenty fifth, nineteen eighty nine, and this is 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:11.200 Talking Cowboys inside the SWBC Mortgage Studios. Bill Jones, would 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:15.880 Mike you, Spagnola, heck Ma Harrison and Everson Walls? Everson, 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.360 what did you think on that day thirty one years 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:26.240 ago today? At that time, I was happy when he 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.960 first went down. I thought this was the best thing 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.800 that ever happened. He made me a captain as the 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.960 first the first organization that ever made me a captain 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.959 in my entire life, going back to Peewee League High 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.080 school and nothing, and when they made me captain like Davin, 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:48.000 this is what I've been waiting on. I'm having some walls. 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:51.920 I'm from Dallas, Texas. I deserved this. Where were you 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.480 on this day when the announcement was made? I really 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.400 couldn't tell you, but I can tell you what I 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:03.360 was the night before. I was hanging out with Jerry 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:07.880 and and uh the organization, Jerry and Missus Jones, me 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:13.440 and my wife. Yeah we we Foozies. You have Foozies. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.919 You have a member Foosies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.280 where we hung out. That's where we hung out. I thought, man, 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.680 me and Jerry were gonna be big buds, great friends, 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.720 like I'm a company man. Now I don't even know 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.399 what to how to acts. That didn't last long at all. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.760 But we'll get into more of our memories coming up 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:37.320 in just a little bit. What exactly um our memories 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.920 of twenty five or thirty one years ago today February 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.239 twenty fifth, nineteen eighty nine. And uh, but there's a 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.399 lot of sorts of other things going on right now too, 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:50.320 including Cris Beam talking in my ear incessantly. And hopefully 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:55.840 that was just very quickly. I thought, I'm not getting 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:57.480 I'm not getting paid enough to have all this in 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:01.919 my ear. What's going on? You thought the XFL you 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.040 got someone talking in your hell, but the whole thing 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.280 all the way, that's what you do. Take your head. 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.040 But there's so much to talk about because the combine 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.160 is underway, and we'll break it down this way. About this, 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.120 we'll talk because Steven talked yesterday. We're gonna hear it 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:24.359 from Stephen coming up here. Um talked about the DAK contract, 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.160 all the things going on at the combine right now. 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.400 I think this is a great time of the year 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:33.040 because this is basically kicks off the offseason. I mean 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.920 this is you know, the agents are also in Indianapolis. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:38.920 Some work can get done. You got a CBA that 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:40.920 needs to get done. If the Cowboys are going to 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.360 do the business they want to get done. And Um, 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.960 so we'll talk about that what the Cowboys need to 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.520 do as far as the contracts go and the CBA, 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.160 and we'll talk combo. They need to actually start talking. 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:56.240 It's exactly right. And we will talk as well about 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.640 our memories from thirty one years ago. But it's also 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:04.520 Fat Tuesday, So I got my purple on. Yeah, Hey, 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:08.720 I got my baby from my kincake all the way in. 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:13.000 I just had my baby in the you know what. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.320 They were kind of lazy. His feet were like hanging out. 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.840 It were lazy to making it me and my daughter 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.960 was like, oh, that's the baby right there. But it 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.320 was good. No suspense, no suspension. Well, I've already cheated 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:33.279 on my diet today. So Fat Tuesday, rock Ada bought 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.719 in donuts so I had to have of course, of course, 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.240 I think it's a National pancake Day. That was just 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.200 my my my Internet told me to do well, Good 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:48.400 Morning America had pancakes for everybody. It would make sense. 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:54.440 On Fat Tuesday, he sat, weeks get a staff. I've 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.000 not had any today. No, no, no, I won't have 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:01.200 any today. Well, Margaret, eitherday? That was what? Yes, how 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:07.720 drunk did you get? Bill? That's why my wife was 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:11.200 drinking so many of our garators on Friday. All right, 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:17.320 Stephen Jones talks yesterday, and you know this whole CBA thing, 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:21.480 it sounds like for the cowboys to do the business 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.760 they want to get done with Dak Prescott and his 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.480 agent Todd France. They need to get this CBA done. Mickey, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:33.000 they need it done, but if it gets done, then 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:37.240 they're gonna lose the transition tag also, so there's some 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:41.880 ramifications for getting it done and not getting it done. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.760 Um also, but if it gets done, it might wipe 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:50.520 out the thirty percent rule going into the last year 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.440 of the official CBA that's in place. And that's what 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:59.760 Stephen alluded to yesterday, because, um, you can't mess with 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.600 the base salaries. They can't go up or down by 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:06.239 more than thirty percent from year to year. So normally 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:10.400 when they do these big contracts, they'll they'll tell the player, well, 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.280 you just got twenty million in a signing bonus, let's say, 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.720 and so your base salary this year is only going 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.320 to be one million dollars and that'll help us on 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:23.200 the cap. But if it's only one million dollars this year, 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.000 then it can only go up thirty percent the next year. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.240 So I think that does that mean it's three million 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:35.159 dollars whatever? So yeah, because because because you can't say, okay, 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.839 now you get eleven million in twenty twenty one. So 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:44.720 it's pretty complicated and it cannot bload the contract the exactly, 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.080 and a lot of those contracts were always backloaded, right, 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:52.719 those last years they had money that wasn't guaranteed to 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.240 count in the big total. So somebody can say, oh, 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.840 I got one hundred and thirty five million dollars deal 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.200 when the guarantees only one hundred and there's thirty five 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.119 million on the back end. That's bogus. And that also 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.159 helps the teams with the cap as well. Right, they 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.640 can kind of play with that exactly. And Mickey, this 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.360 is a ten year deal, correct, It would be a 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.080 ten year deal. That's what they're looking at. And one 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.400 of the reasons why the NFL wants to get it 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.600 done and maybe why the players think they have a 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.640 little leverages. If they get it done for ten years, 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:27.240 they can start negotiating a TV contract right away and 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:31.480 promise the networks, hey, we've got ten years of a 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.760 collective bargain agreement, so we're not in jeopardy of any 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.120 strike or anything like that. And the players and allows 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.120 them to ask for more money, and especially if you 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.040 get a seventeenth game, right because now you've got more 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.560 revenue coming in, you've got more product to give them. 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.000 So there's a lot of things. But the players don't 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:54.360 get paid per game. They would get paid one. That 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.480 would turn it to one. That's one of the sticking points, 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:02.280 right Perhaps because they're staying seventeenth game, they're they're maxing 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:06.960 it as is the current agreement is put together, it 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.440 max out at two hundred and fifty for that last game, 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.760 two hundred and fifty thousand for the last game, So 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.520 you would get played one seventeenth for the first seventeen weeks, 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.160 and then that last week everybody gets to it. That's 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.000 for existing contracts, okay, Yeah, for for players who would 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.000 be under contract when that would take effect, which at 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.960 the earliest would be not twenty twenty but twenty twenty one. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:33.479 So the player reps, I think there are The executive 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.599 committee on the NFLPA with the players will meet with 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.720 the owners today. It must happened later this afternoon. When 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.319 they voted initially it was six to five not to 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.760 agree to it. And so there's a lot of questions, Yeah, 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.000 a lot of questions that the owners are going to 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.439 have to answer and strictly majority, you don't have to 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.520 have a If they know that the yeah, and then 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.640 if they agree, then they'll give it to the players. 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.720 The entire played a recommended to a vote for the players. Now, 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:03.839 there are a lot of there are a lot of 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.160 sticking points in this CBA that the players have to 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.360 pay attention to because it is a ten year deal 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.599 and a lot of the guys that's even negotiating the 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.319 deal won't even be a part maybe won't be a 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.880 part of the NFL. So for all of those points 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:17.800 when I was I was reading today that the point 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:22.160 or the percentages five five billion dollars and the half 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.319 is two point five billion dollars. So there are a 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.439 lot of things at staking. The one thing that I 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.440 keep seeing through the media as far as the seventeenth game, 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.559 but also you know, the drug testing part of it. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.240 I think that's a major part that a lot of 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.760 the players have been interested in. But there's way more. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.719 I think there's way more to the CBA than just 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:46.160 the you know, being drug tested two weeks before OTAs 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.719 or before the season that these guys have to pay, 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.880 you know, play, pay attention to because there's so much 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.280 hanging in the balance for them as opposed to like 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.320 when you were in the in the league in eighty 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.599 two when there was a strike, you know that you 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:03.160 have the mom mom but the revenue, but as far 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.040 as the revenue, as far as the revenue UH, and 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.640 the and the network, as far as the sharing. Now 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.800 in comparison, we're talking about billions of dollars now to 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:14.920 the sharing the percentage we were I don't think we 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.360 were sharing in eighty two. There was nothing about sharing. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.839 We were bringing it up, but it had not even 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.719 come into fruition. I don't believe until eighty seven is 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.520 when we really started talking about having the real It 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.400 was the reality that we could profit sharing some way. 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.920 You know. Hack brought up the drug policy and it 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:36.160 significantly changes for marijuana. I was going to ask you 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.000 if if it had any tolerance this time, if it 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.160 go up to the time. Yeah. The proposal says it'll 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:46.199 narrow the testing window of THHC from four months to 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:50.440 two weeks at the start of training camp. So even 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:55.160 if you're you're to rather than at the start of 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.599 the offseason. Price exact. So that tells you when it 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:02.319 is so I watch test serious. Unless you got a 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.160 serious problem, you ought to be able to quit. We 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.640 always knew when it was right, and now it's only 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:10.120 a two week wind. It also reduces the penalties to 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:15.720 players who test positive for THHC eliminating any game suspension 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:20.480 for strictly for positive tests. Well, and that the question is, Mickey, 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:24.200 what the players be willing to leverage as much as 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.120 they have on the table right now just for drug testing. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.199 I mean because even for yes, as far as the 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.360 insurance is concerned, as far as you know, guys having 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.680 insurance coverage after they're playing days. I mean, if that's 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:40.040 the case, think about it this way. Okay, the veteran 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.640 players are thinking like you. The guys that are one, two, 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:45.880 three years in the league that think they're playing for 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:49.040 another five ain't worried about that stuff because they're not. 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.640 They're not forward thinking. Yeah, they're thinking about, Okay, if 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.720 I'm smoking marijuana today, I can play in a month 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.400 or I'm not going to get punished games. So they're 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:05.079 thinking about themselves. The other thing, it also increases the 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:09.200 nanogram limit. So it's the I tried to read up 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:13.160 as much as I could. It's the it's the level. Uh, 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.839 you're not going to be tested. It's the player. Well, 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.360 I want to know what they were doing. Because the 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:23.480 nanogram level limit went from thirty five think about this, 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:27.200 thirty five to one fifty. Yeah, and that's per mill 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.199 leader of blood in your body. Okay, so that's a 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.480 huge And what I was reading is fifty is usually 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:38.760 kind of the cutoff from a driving standpoint to see 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.960 if you're intoxicated or not. So now it's one hundred 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.640 and fifty for the league for you to test positive. 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.560 So there's a lot of towers. And I always thought 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:53.000 that would be one of the number one sticking points. Wow. Well, 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:57.520 when you negotiation evolution about thinking, you know, mat wine 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.440 has always been where it is, but you know, we've 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.120 just we were thinking about it differently now with a 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.520 lot more tolerance and regards to not just society, but 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.439 in regards to medicine. You know, so now when you're 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:15.760 talking about opioids versus a CBD, I thought it'd be 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.079 even more tolerance and even put something in there to 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:23.200 where they might even use it in regards to pain tolerance, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:28.000 and that obviously is not in there at all. Yeah, 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:30.320 like I said, when I looked at it, and they 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:34.360 made it about you know, smoking marijuana and just looking 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.640 at the players what they have to lose if they 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.880 make a bad deal. I mean, I guess my parents 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.880 always said youth has wasted on the young, and this 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.959 would be a bad decision to leverage that much just 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.040 to be able to smoke pot in the offseason. They 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.079 have to be forward thinking about this because they have 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.600 so much to lose. And as far as the guys 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.199 that played the game before them that had to deal 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.280 with those stipulations, I know a lot of societal issues 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.679 and dealing with the optics is a big part of 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.760 what the NFL is into. But also just thinking about 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.440 those guys that have played the game that need coverage 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:12.360 now when they look back over their careers, that that's important. 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.400 And I don't know if they are talking about anything 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.480 for guys, let's say pre nineties guys that actually made 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.760 the game what it is. And so to the average 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.640 fan that's having to work a job to get drug tested, 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.600 they don't understand a guy that would give up that 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.000 much just to because again, when you look at the 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.240 CBA and the amount of money that guys would be 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:35.040 turning down or getting that, your average working Joe doesn't 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.960 understand why a guy would turn down the contract based 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.440 off of those numbers, because hey, for me myself, I 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.760 shake a coconut out a tree for a million dollars, 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.840 you know, I mean literally see me shaking the tree. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.040 You really, you really can't look at what you know, 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:54.080 the average working Joel is doing. Don't don't compare football 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.840 players to that. That's always been the mistake. Okay, you 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.120 keep talking about not just you, but fans have always said, well, 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:02.760 I can't believe they're trying to make this much money. 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.360 They said they when we were playing, that's always gonna 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.320 be were making how much in nineteen eighty three three 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:16.080 I made thirty seven fire you go, yeah, yeah. For 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:22.280 the proposal for the former players, retroactive would increase five 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.680 hundred and fifty dollars a month for all pre twenty 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:31.960 twelve vested players, so whatever they're getting, it would raise, okay, okay. 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:37.000 And then it would also expand pension bill eligibility to 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:41.160 all former players with three credited seasons. I don't know 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:42.880 what it used to. It has always been three? Has 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:47.600 it always been three? Okay? Uh? And creation of a 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.680 new network of hospitals in each team city for former 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:55.120 players to receive no cost physicals, preventive care, mental health consoling, 0:15:55.160 --> 0:16:01.280 and outpatient orthopedic servi services coverage UH common to surgeries 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.200 to be phased in during the course of the deal. 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.880 So that's wonderful. That's kind of an increase for the 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:11.880 former players. So yeah, it's it's pretty comprehensive, and there's 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.280 a lot to think about other than just uh increasing 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:20.320 the minimum wage by one hundred thousand dollars and the 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:26.800 minimum for the rookies ninety thousand. So and again, if 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.920 they if the biggest one might be the share, right 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:34.160 it's forty seven percent right now, and now it would 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.840 go up to as much as forty eight five. Yeah, 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.800 so if they sell more for games that are going 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.400 to be played a seventeenth game, then that's going to 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.920 go up too. So we'll see what they decide today 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.400 and if there's a vote, and this thing, you know, 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.040 could be decided by Thursday. All right, how about Dak 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.200 Prescott And let's hear from Stephen Jones and what he 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.160 was saying about Dak Prescott with the possibility of a 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:05.520 franchise tag looming over the heads of everybody, franchise tag, 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.159 is it accured to say it would be the exclusive variety? 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.320 You know, I'm not going to get into any of 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:14.200 the details of the contract and franchising and that type 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:15.960 of thing. Our goal is to get it done with Dak, 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.320 and I know he wants to be here and we 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.639 want him to be here long term, and you know, 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.359 he's our guy. You know, we've got nothing but the 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.000 highest regards for him, and we want to get the 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:30.639 deal done. And Stephen Jones said that he was surprised 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:32.800 they didn't get a deal done back in September and 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.960 they haven't had talks since September. Yeah, he was. It 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.080 was just kind of like, uh, you know one of 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.200 my ex girlfriends. I mean, you know, she didn't call me, 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:41.760 I didn't call her, and then all of a sudden, 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.680 I'm Mari just somebody else, So you know it, that's 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:49.520 how it happened. Why Stephen is Stephen is quick to 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:53.399 point out Dak's not going to another girlfriend, okay. And 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.119 then and then the other key, the other key thing 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.440 we have to be aware of is they've pushed back 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.520 when you can start with the franchise tag from today 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.359 till Thursday, which pushes the end from the March tenth 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.480 to the twelfth. Okay, So they've pushed it back, hoping 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.480 that this whole thing gets settled hopefully before that. So 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.760 it's just because the tag starts on the twenty seventh 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.399 doesn't mean you got to give it to him on 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.480 the twenty seventh. You still got however, many more days 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:25.840 in March twelve. Let's look at all the contract negotiations. 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.119 I mean, the importance of this contract negotiation. Have you 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.920 ever heard that type of a response and with glosson 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.119 why we didn't get it done? Like what we just 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.280 didn't call them, They didn't just call us. It's like 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.920 the sense of urgency just left. Well. And because there's 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:44.479 no deadline, and I've always realized in these negotiations, if 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:48.320 there's a deadline, then it gets done like a real deadline, 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.560 not an artificial deadline. And Stephen, I don't know if 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.639 the guys have the bite or not. When Steven talked 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:58.159 about why it didn't get done, if you guys have it, 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:02.000 it was about I think they were pretty entrenched and 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.320 if you guys got it, he can play it. Otherwise 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.320 I'll read it to you. Well, go ahead, no, no, no. 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:14.119 Stephen said, they were pretty entrenched with their thoughts, and 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.600 we were pretty entrenched with our thoughts. You know why 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.760 they were so entrenched with their thoughts because Dak knew 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.360 he was going to have a great season. He knew 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.760 he was gonna put up numbers. He had knowledge about 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:31.720 this Cowboys offense that none of us had going into 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.600 the season. It was the twenty third ranked pass offense 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.960 in the league the previous year. We if anyone would 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:39.679 have said this is going to be the number one 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:41.920 or two ranked pass offense in the league, we would 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.520 have said, you're crazy, it's not gonna happen. He knew 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:46.720 what was being implemented and how they were going to 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.600 attack things as far as this offense goes this year, 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.640 and he knew the money's not going down. Yeah, that's 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.040 the only risk he had was getting hurt. That's for 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.919 rind at that time. Was Kellen Moore. That's right, he knew, right, 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:03.879 he had information. Yeah, I got that kind of to 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.040 me though. That gives you an indication of what they 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:10.520 were asking for, which was not in line of obviously 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.960 what the Cowboys were offering. And the key thing and 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.520 this whole thing when I hear people say, well, just 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:18.240 get it done. What are you waiting on? You know, 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:22.400 you gotta pay. We don't know what they're asking right, right, 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:24.680 they could be asking for fifty million years. Well, there's 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:26.840 a lot of rooms out there and that's when we 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.520 don't know. Well, so until you know, we kind of 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:33.080 know where the Cowboys are probably somewhere close to thirty 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:36.680 million a year in the regular package, not the guarantee, 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.920 because these other guys didn't get guaranteed thirty million a year. 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.960 So and what they're asking we don't know. Now would 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.160 that be two schools of thought, one being from dak 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.960 saying that, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo two years ago was 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.840 the highest paid quarterback in the NFL, and n now 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.840 that's the not even the tenth highest paid as amongst 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:59.760 his peers. And so knowing that after the other looming 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.720 tracks that we have from Patrick Mahomes and other guys 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:05.000 in the league, that two years from now he made, 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:07.800 his contract may not even be top five top in 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.040 the NFL, and he doesn't have another opportunity to negotiate 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.960 until right now. So all of his value is in 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.440 what he stands for right now at this point. Yeah, 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:21.359 but that's life in the United States, right when you 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:25.400 look at somebody's gonna get paid more than you tomorrow. 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:28.800 When you look at quarterbacks versus other positions, they have 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.960 more opportunities to get that big contract. You know, I 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:34.800 think da when you look at it. Even if you 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:36.640 look at his career, let's just say it goes, say 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.159 maybe thirteen years or whatever, he's still that chance to 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:42.119 get two more big contracts. Let me give you a 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:46.280 great saying. And it came from Pat summer All. Several 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:49.280 years ago. We were at lunch together in our little 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:52.040 lunch group, and I was trying to explain to him 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.159 why Greg Ellis was unhappy with his contract because he 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.440 signed like a seven year deal, which no one did 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:02.280 back then, and then all of a sudden, the contracts exploded, 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:04.520 the cap went up, and now he's not happy to 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:07.760 those last two or three years and he's totally underpaid. 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.320 And I said, yeah, poor poor Gregg, he came along 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:15.800 too soon. And summer All and his deep voice goes, well, 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:19.359 we all came around absolutely, So what how do you 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:22.119 feel about you know, cowboy alumni, you know that are 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:25.480 saying that, hey, take the deal from Sam to get 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:30.879 to that. Emma must I had too many hits to 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:39.119 his head. He would have said that about it Smith 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:41.720 when he was going through his contract stuff, well, he 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:45.359 brought instances and examples to where he tried to boost 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:48.760 his case. He talked about you know, certain players that 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:52.160 were deferring money, the backloading that we were talking about 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.360 early in this in the ship saying the difference. Then 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.360 that was ninety three and there was no salary cap. Yeah, 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.920 so he could argue for any money he wanted and 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:04.800 it was Jerry's money. Now it's Dallas Cowboys money, and 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.520 I think there's a difference. Uh so, m it won't 0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:11.080 be invited to the to the negotiations, think about it. 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:16.000 That's the contracts signing. Emma didn't sign contracts twice. Right, 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.080 I'm not gonna say because he hates it when you 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.080 call it a holdout. He was without a con He 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:25.159