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Speaker 1: On today's OTP Road to Nashville, Titans Radio's Dave McGinnis

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Speaker 1: is here, and that means we're talking defensive prospects, edge rushers.

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Speaker 1: To be exact. Coach back breaks down this impressive group

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Speaker 1: and talks about how they could help the Titans. Plus

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Speaker 1: the new rule allowing pass interference to be reviewed, how

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Speaker 1: will it affect the NFL? All that in tour. Next,

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Speaker 1: on the April third OTP Road to Nashville, it's twenty

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Speaker 1: two days until players are drafted in Nashville. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the OTP Road to Nashville. Mike Keith and Amy Wells.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. How are you? Day three? Day three? Moving closer,

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Speaker 1: it's flying by and a special guest, Titans Radio's Dave

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Speaker 1: McGinnis here from the jump, Ready to go, Ready to

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Speaker 1: talk ball. I don't know how specially it is, but

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here with y'all. It is, it

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Speaker 1: is very specially. The first two y'all have done been

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Speaker 1: really good. Oh, well, thank you? Really cool. No, I

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Speaker 1: mean it was bad, I tell you too, but it's been. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't don't tell us if it's bad, we'd rather not know.

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Speaker 1: But it's been really solid, solid, Well, thank you everything.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here. Well, we're excited to talk

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Speaker 1: with you today. So let's jump right into headlines because

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Speaker 1: there is one that has been reported this morning and

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Speaker 1: confirmed by the player himself. Quentin Spain, the Titans left

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Speaker 1: guard the last four seasons, has signed with the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: This is not a surprise. It was expected that he

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Speaker 1: Kevin Palmfield, Aaron Stenny, Jamil Douglas, and I guess potentially

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Speaker 1: deep at guard, even though this was not a surprise

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Speaker 1: move and could be an area where they're still looking

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Speaker 1: to go. Well, it wasn't a surprise move to me,

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Speaker 1: I don't think to any of us that are close

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Speaker 1: National Football League, and that's what free agency is about,

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Speaker 1: come into two being. The fact is that now and

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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel has said this, they're gonna get Pam Feel

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Speaker 1: some people, and the free agency is still not over.

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Speaker 1: It's not over. I mean, as we've talked about, you

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Speaker 1: know in previous broadcast, it goes in waves, and the

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Speaker 1: a draft full of interior offensive linemen that can help.

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Speaker 1: Grent Spain did a nice job. Absolutely, he did do

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Speaker 1: the Titans have the chance to maybe get someone in

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Speaker 1: Number two. The AAF has suspended play. Dave McGinnis, you

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Speaker 1: have seen several AAF games. It was something that I

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Speaker 1: The headline of this show is Dave McGinnis is here.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about edge rushers who that could be

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Speaker 1: Brian Burns is where I'm going first. Brian Burns from

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Speaker 1: But he has something that you can't teach. Flexibility. He's

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Speaker 1: how to use his hands, the things I knocked him

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Speaker 1: he's a smart player. He's a smart player. Just watching

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Speaker 1: seven in twenty eighteen. That tells me two things. He's

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00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: got great spatial awareness as to where the quarterback is

427
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: if he's not on top of the quarterback. He's also

428
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: got two block kicks. His hand eye coordination and his

429
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: awareness is exceptional. Okay, he's an all out everything player.

430
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: He's old school tough. He's not a quick twitch athlete,

431
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: all right. He's a little tight sometimes in the waist,

432
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: not supple smooth. I think this guy is a production guy.

433
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: He's a football player, and that's what you're that's what

434
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: you're looking for. I had him pegged anywhere from the

435
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: bottom of the second to the third round. Uh, this guy,

436
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: you're getting a quality football player. You're going to get

437
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: everything Zach Allen has. You need different kind of outside linebackers,

438
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: don't you. And this guy's not lighting the rear end.

439
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 1: You need a couple of them who are not lighting

440
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: the rear end. Correct. As I said, I mean, this

441
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 1: guy's six h four one two one pounds. Okay, I

442
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: mean this guy's bringing something with him. And as I said,

443
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: he can two gap if you ask him to. He

444
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: can hold the edge. But at the same time, he's

445
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: not an empty chair getting pressure. So I like this player.

446
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love hearing things like that. I want

447
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 1: to switch over a little bit and talk about some

448
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: other players, guys who actually went to your alma mater,

449
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: coach from you. Did they win last night over Texas?

450
00:22:52,560 --> 00:23:00,719
Speaker 1: They got beat Okay, but Lipscomb, yeah, shad him. All right,

451
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: let's start with LJ. Collier. What do you think about him? Well?

452
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: L J. Collier? First of all, LJ. Collier's from Monday, Texas. Now,

453
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: I know you've been to Hawaii. You ever been to Monday, Texas?

454
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: Need to expand your travel horizons? All right, about seventy

455
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: five miles from Abileen, seventy five miles from which Tall falls. Anyway,

456
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: there's about thirteen hundred people in Monday, Texas. If LJ

457
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: comes into this league, first one ever in the history

458
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: of Monday Texas, they'll have a parade right down Main Street.

459
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: All right, six oz two two two hundred and eighty

460
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: three pounds. This guy, look, he switched from defensive tackle

461
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: to defensive end in twenty eighteen. He's a very compact player.

462
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 1: All right. He's got a powerful frame, but he's got

463
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: long arms. He's got a stout lower half. He's got

464
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: strong hands, very active and powerful with his hands. I

465
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: like his upper body strength to lock out. He can

466
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: hold the point in the run game. He's more slippery

467
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 1: than you would think somebody that squat and stout would be.

468
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 1: He's got a little slippery to him inside. He's got

469
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 1: an explosive closing burst to the ball. Okay, he's played

470
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: interior defensive line, He's played defensive van Gary Patterson uses

471
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: these guys in a lot of different ways. He'll be

472
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: a stand up rusher off of both etches, of both edges.

473
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: He's got four pass breakup a breakups in twenty eighteen.

474
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: He's a little late off the ball sometimes and I

475
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: wonder how much is awareness or his focus is Sometimes

476
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: he has a burst. He's got his speed outside the

477
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: tackle box. I mean he ran he ran a four

478
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: nine one, So with speed outside the tackle box, you're

479
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: not looking at somebody that's going to eat stripes up.

480
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: But he's a high, high effort guy. He can play

481
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: multiple roles up and down the defensive front. He would

482
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: be the pride of Monday, Texas if he gets into

483
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: the NFL. Same team. New guy, Ben Banago a little

484
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: bit different guy. Okay, okay, okay, Look Banagoo. First of all,

485
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: he started his career out a career out at Louisiana Munrow.

486
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: He's from McKinney, Texas, so he wasn't initially taken by,

487
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: you know, a bigger school. He did transfer. Now he's

488
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: got all the athletic numbers. When you look at him,

489
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,719
Speaker 1: four six two forty a forty inch vertical jump. So

490
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: think about that at six zo three four two hundred

491
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: and fifty pounds, eleven two broad up a seven oh

492
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: two three conea one six two ten. You've got a

493
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: foot athlete here. He's a smooth accelerator. I've got here

494
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: off of the corner, he's got core flexibility. In other words,

495
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: he's not a stiff player. He's got lateral agility. He

496
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: can dip, he can get through gaps, he finds the ball,

497
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: he's got vision, balance in length. Now, he's an average

498
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: twitch guy. He's not an elite twitch athlete. We're not

499
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: talking about Harold Landry category gonna be off the edge

500
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: type of dude. His initial explosiveness is I would say average,

501
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: but he's got he's got. He's not an elite speed rusher,

502
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 1: but to me, he needs more experience in space. But

503
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: he's got a blend of length and agility to run

504
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: games at which Gary Patterson did a lot with his players.

505
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: If you watch Gary Patterson's defense, he's got his outside

506
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: guy standing up two point. They run a lot of

507
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: twist a lot of games. He needs more strength in

508
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: the run game. But he's an interesting, interesting player and

509
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: he's got some athletic ability. With NFL coaching, you might

510
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: have something in Ben day two picks, Yes, both of them, Paul,

511
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: you're in better. Yes, all right. Let's take a look

512
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: now at the Titans current depth. Okay, at the outside

513
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: linebacker position. Six guys on the roster at this moment,

514
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: and Harold Landry and Cameron Waker obviously at the top

515
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: of the list. Sharif Finch and Kamalai Correa are right

516
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: below them, and then two practice squad players. Although LaTroy

517
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: Lewis was on the roster at the end of the year,

518
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: Jamal President was on the practice squad. So I mean,

519
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: not a lot of experience, not a lot of depth.

520
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: How many more outside linebackers do you think the Titans

521
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: need for training kings? The numbers we have right now, six, Okay,

522
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: we've got six. Here's what I all the years I

523
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: was in the National Football League when we were running

524
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: a four three defense, all right, I would take ten

525
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: linebackers to camp, all right, and you've got three positions there,

526
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: so you take ten you normally take. You normally take

527
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: first and second, and then you have one backup. So

528
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: if you'll, if you'll just use that model. All right.

529
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: Now you've got four okay, so you've got eight you

530
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: might want to take to me. If you're running, you

531
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: want to take ten or eleven, maybe twelve to camp,

532
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: all right. So you're probably thinking a couple drafted, maybe

533
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: one to two drafted, two to three undrafted, and maybe

534
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: another veteran or there. You go, Absolutely, that sounds good.

535
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: Is there someone at nineteen that the Titans can get

536
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: that would be a great head drusher? Okay, Amy, that's

537
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: a fair question. And I'm going to ask you one

538
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: back before I answer your question. Tell me who's taking

539
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: one through eighteen? Everybody else? Okay? And then seeing that

540
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: that's my point because when you're sitting and you know,

541
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: and seriously, when you're sitting at nineteen, all right, I'm

542
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 1: gonna show you this that I did. H And I

543
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: think I mean not because I know everything, because oh no,

544
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: you can kind of a lot, kind of know a lot.

545
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: No really we should have some music to stall for time. No,

546
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: we don't, don't. We don't need, we don't need, we

547
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: don't need to stall for time. What I've got, I've

548
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: probably got about six guys that I think are first round,

549
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: our fringe first round picks in this I've graded fifteen

550
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: of these guys. So there are going to be there

551
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: is going to be somebody. Do you think somebody will

552
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: be there? Here's the problem with that. I have contacts

553
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: through the league that I work with from time to time,

554
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: just friends and people that I count on. And I

555
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 1: reached out to thirty one people and got the top

556
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: needs for every team, the top three needs. And I

557
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: did this rather than just take it off of a website.

558
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: And many of them are reputable, I'm not saying that,

559
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: but just to get some feel for some specifics after

560
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: some free agency had been done. Let me stop you

561
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: a minute. That that you're doing, that's what everybody is doing. Look,

562
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: when I was in the league work in the draft,

563
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean I was on the phone constantly right now,

564
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: And that's what you do. And so what you're doing

565
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: is what people that know what they're doing should be doing.

566
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: So go ahead, all right, So this is going to

567
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: scare you. We're going to put up the teams that

568
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: have a one, two, or three top three need for

569
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: an edge rusher, and most of these it's either one

570
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: or two. Arizona at one, San Francisco at two, the

571
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: Jets at three, Oakland at four, Tampa Bay at five,

572
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: the Giants at six. So the top six teams in

573
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: the draft all have some sort of need for edge rusher. Well,

574
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: then you flip the page and Detroit needs one, Buffalo

575
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: needs one, and then Carolina, Tennessee, Seattle, and Indianapolis and

576
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: these are just and that doesn't mean that somebody wouldn't

577
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: pick one who just can't turn down a great player, right,

578
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: because edge rushers are like corners. They when you've got

579
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: a guy that can rush the passer. I mean Tom

580
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: Coughlin did it for a hundred years with the Giants.

581
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: Every year he would grab an edge rusher and people

582
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: would say, why is he doing that. It's because you

583
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: can never have enough. So there might be other teams.

584
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about teams with need. So the Titans

585
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: are in an incredibly competitive market, especially sitting at nineteen percent, right,

586
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: and that vetting that you're doing as I just said,

587
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: that's what you do during the draft. You know, when

588
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: I was involved in making decisions and doing the draft.

589
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: I mean you're constantly on the phone now because you've

590
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: got to know not only what people ahead of you

591
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: might want, but people behind you too. I mean it's

592
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: very important to know that the geography and to know

593
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: the terrain of the draft. And as I say, I've

594
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: got six guys that I've got first round grades on,

595
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't like to, but I just put them in pods.

596
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: You put them in pods because that's what you do

597
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: when you're drafting, because you don't know who's going to

598
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: be taken where, and you have a bullpen that goes up,

599
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: and then if somebody takes somebody that you have in

600
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: your bullpen, you replace him with somebody else. But as

601
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: you move down the line, there are going to be players.

602
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: I've got fifteen of these guys graded. I've got six

603
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: that I think will maybe be in the top upper

604
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: tier of that. But then as you go down there

605
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 1: are some extremely good players in that top tier. Right,

606
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: let me ask you about your impact guys. If the

607
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: Titans don't go edge rusher at nineteen, can they find

608
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: an impact edge rusher if they pick one at fifteen. Okay, Now, Mike,

609
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: you and I have talked ball, Explain impact to me,

610
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: because because what do you want with impact? What I'm

611
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: saying is you're not going to get as good a

612
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: player as you would clearly at those places. Are you

613
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: going to get somebody that can that can step in

614
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: it and can play for you and can be a

615
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: solid football player and can grow with the coaching that

616
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: they get. Yes. Are you going to get a guy

617
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: that you can immediately stick in there and say, all right,

618
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: this is a this is a six or seven or

619
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: eight or nine SAT guy a season. Probably not, but

620
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: the Titan should have never gotten Harold Landry at forty one.

621
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: That's one hundred percent right. And that's why all of

622
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: this talk before the draft, I've done it for thirty

623
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: four years. Is it's all good. I mean, it really is,

624
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: because that's what you want to do, and it's what

625
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: makes it so interesting. But until draft day, until those

626
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: names start coming off, because there's two drafts that go

627
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: on on Draft Day. And I'm not gonna expound on

628
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: this a lot. I'll do it sometime, but there's two drafts.

629
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: There's all position drafts, and then there's quarterback drafts, and

630
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: once those quarterbacks start sliding in, it's different and people

631
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: start bumping down. And if there's a run on players

632
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: that start at one position. Both of you've been in

633
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: this long enough to see that if a run on

634
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: a position starts, that makes a difference too. But what

635
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: a year. I mean to have this many teams that

636
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Speaker 1: are needing an edge rusher and to see all the

637
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: depth at this position in this draft. This is the

638
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: year to be looking for that kind of guy. Well, absolutely,

639
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: but Mike is right. You can never have on defense,

640
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: you can never have too many people that can affect

641
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback, which edge rushers are, and now it's becoming

642
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: more even interior rushers, And you can never have too

643
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: many people that can cover those two things. On defense,

644
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: especially the way offenses are evolving now, you can never

645
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: have too many of those. All right, let's turn from

646
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: this issue the draft itself to what happened in Arizona

647
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: last week at the owners meetings. Yes, a fundamental switching

648
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: the OTP road to Nashville, a fundamental switch in the

649
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: National Football League. Pass interference is now reviewable. The owners

650
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: got to the Arizona built more against making past interference reviewable.

651
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: It's the owners show. The coaches and everybody else can

652
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: talk all they want, but it's the owner's show. And

653
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: yet the owners changed their mind, and past interference is

654
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: now reviewable. Are you surprised? And I'm not surprised because

655
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: because because it's been heading in this direction. When I

656
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: was at the combine with you guys, you know, I

657
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time. I talked to a lot

658
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: of head coaches and a lot of this was on

659
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: their mind. It was on their mind because of clearly

660
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: what happened in the Rams New Orleans game. That that's

661
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 1: that's the genesis of all of this. But the issue

662
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,239
Speaker 1: is coaches want to get it right. I like what

663
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: they've done with this. With this in mind, and I

664
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: know we're going to go into depth with this. Coaches

665
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: still only have two challenges, so you're gonna have to

666
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 1: be strategic on the way you use your challenges. But

667
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: past interference, especially in the National Football League, with it,

668
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: and I'm talking defensively now and offensive, it's a spot foul.

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00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: It is a spot foul. It's the only foul in

670
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: any perfect I mean, you can you can eat up

671
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: all of the field except for one yard with this foul.

672
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: I like the fact that it's reviewable now. Now are

673
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: coaches going to be using it to actually challenge past interference? Amy,

674
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: Here's what I think is going to happen. I think

675
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: coaches are going to use it and depend on It

676
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: will depend on game and game situation. If you're in

677
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: a real tight ball game and all of a sudden

678
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: there's a past interference that's called on your team, that

679
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: is a spot foul that takes the ball from the

680
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: minus forty clear to the plus one, you're going to

681
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: challenge that because it's a game switcher. Okay, I don't.

682
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: You can't be indiscriminate with it because you've only got

683
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: two of them. But the coaches are going to use it,

684
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: but they're still going to be very careful how they

685
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: use their challenges. I agree with what Mike Vrabel said.

686
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: I heard what he said at the owner's meeting. He said,

687
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: I've got enough to do, and I did. I did

688
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: too when I was a head coach. You've got enough

689
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: to do administering a game of coaching it. You don't

690
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: want to officiate it. Also, does this fundamentally change the

691
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: game in your opinion, I don't think it fundamentally changes

692
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: the game. I think it has a chance to get

693
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: some things right. You know that sometimes have been wrong. Look,

694
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: you've done a million games and you've set up there

695
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: before going and you've seen it. You've seen in this

696
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: league past interference is one of the most important fouls

697
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: that can flip a game because it is a spot

698
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: foul and it and we can get into a lot

699
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: of rule changes. But I'd also like to see the

700
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: automatic first down stuff taken out too, in my opinion.

701
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later. So basically, to kind of

702
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: sum up everything that we've said, this is going to

703
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: be mostly seen in the last couple minutes of a game.

704
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: It's going to be used for strategic purposes, and some

705
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: of it's get come from the booth, not just from

706
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: the coaches. You think that's where it will happen the most,

707
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: in the last two minutes of halfs when New York's

708
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: making the decision. Yeah, but I really do. But if

709
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: a coach, as I said to Amy's first question, if

710
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: in the course of a ball game, you are at

711
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: an important juncture and something happens one way or the

712
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: other that is going to affect game and feel position,

713
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: especially if you're in a real tight game, which most

714
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: NFL games are. Right now, you'll see coaches challenge it.

715
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: You know, outside the two minutes, good stuff, good stuff.

716
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: Time for take three. It's time for take three. Take three,

717
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: we take questions. I don't know if you're familiar with this. Yeah,

718
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: I watched it. I saw the question yesterday wherese coach

719
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: mac right here, right here, right here, you got here.

720
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: That's now, that's a response that's delivering. Someone asks, we

721
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: already had him scheduled. He's here every Wednesday. But still

722
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: we can act like we had it anyway. Take one.

723
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: I would like to ask these questions now. Sean asks,

724
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: do you think the Titans could take another receiver at nineteen?

725
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: It feels like there are a couple stars in this draft.

726
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: Do you want to go first? Sure, I'll go first.

727
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: I think I think it's wide open what John Robinson

728
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: will do right now. When you're sitting at nineteen, When

729
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: you're sitting at nineteen, you're just about in the middle

730
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: of this thing, and so everything is open to you.

731
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: I think that I think what John Robinson has done

732
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: in free agency has freed him up and allowed him

733
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: not to have to take any one position. I think

734
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: it's going to allow him to take whatever he thinks

735
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: is the best thing available, because you can never go

736
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: wrong taking good players regardless of position. To answer the

737
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: specific question, could the Titans take another receiver at nineteen?

738
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: I agree with Dave McGinnis. I think they could not

739
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: saying that they're going to. But I will not fall

740
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: out of my chair on the General Jackson when we're

741
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: doing Titans radio draft coverage on April the twenty fifth.

742
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: If the Titans go receiver at nineteen, I don't know.

743
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would fall out of my

744
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: chair really at any position necessarily, which is good because

745
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 1: on a boat that would be bad. Yes, GRAMA mean, yeah,

746
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: no kidding. All right, here's a second question that's of

747
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: a similar vein, but with an interesting twist. All right,

748
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: Cole asked, could the Titans be very aggressive and draft

749
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: two offensive playmakers at wide receiver and tight end with

750
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: their first two picks in this year's draft? Is there

751
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: even a chance of them making trades to get multiple

752
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 1: first round pa all right, So take the second one,

753
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: and we'll ask that again in a second. Take the

754
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,959
Speaker 1: first part, because I want to hear coach Mack. Would

755
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: they go for offensive playmakers with the first two picks?

756
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: What defensive playmakers are there? That's so you can't You're

757
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: here to answer questions, not ask Well, that's the way

758
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: you answer questions in the draft. That's what you do

759
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: when you're going through this, when you go through your

760
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: mock drafts as a staff, as you're leading up to

761
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: this and looking around, you look and see who's there.

762
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: Could they do it? If those are the two best players?

763
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: Absolutely they could? And why not? I don't think so.

764
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: I think this is too good a defensive draft. Well,

765
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: and that goes to my first question, who's their defense? Yeah?

766
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: I think that. I mean, I think the defense is

767
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: so good in this draft, I think it would have

768
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: to be something so unusual. Of course, we had the

769
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: unusual happened last year where the Titans ended up with

770
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: the two players that they were most put together with

771
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: in all the mocks. They got both of them. Mike Keith.

772
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: That was so much fun last year. Let's when they

773
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: when when they took Rashaan. Oh, here we go. You

774
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: did a double backflip on that stage. You're quite the athlete.

775
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: You did a double backflip landed on both feet when

776
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: they took him, and I was right there, Evans. I mean,

777
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: and guess why, because he is a good players. I

778
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: think he's going to be a spectacular second year player.

779
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: I think he is going to be. One of the

780
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: storylines of this year for the Tennessee Titans is that

781
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: he is going to become a star in year two.

782
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: I can see him. I can see him doing what

783
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: Jayon Brown did, the jump that he made, and he's

784
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: doing it from not as much experience as Jayon had,

785
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: because Jayn got to play a lot his rookie. But

786
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm right with you. But those two things, as you're saying, happen.

787
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: That's why the draft is so interesting. It's fun. I

788
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 1: don't think they're going offense with the first two picks.

789
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: That's just me. Do you think that there will be

790
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: some sort of trade made where we are going to

791
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: have two first round draft picks? No? No, no, no.

792
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: I think the chances are right. No. Cole asked two

793
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: good questions. He got two in? How did he get

794
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: two in? Well, five dollars thanks goal. Yeah No, but

795
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think the best case, the

796
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: highest percentage chance, maybe even more so than usual. Is

797
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: that the Titans make the pick at nineteen. It's I

798
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: don't I was looking at how they move back. I

799
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: think it's going to be. You know, John Robinson will

800
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: have to do some things to be able to move back.

801
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: I think moving up is not something he wants to

802
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: do because I don't think he wants to give stuff up.

803
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: Remember he's already given up his four for next year,

804
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: so I think he would be reluctant to give up

805
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: something in this draft and certainly give up something in

806
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: next year's draft. That's just a that's a hunch. I

807
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: agree with that. All right. Let's question. Alan would like

808
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: to know what do you think the odds are of

809
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 1: the Titans moving up in the draft to get Ed Oliver.

810
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll move up just going on. I

811
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: don't think it. And in the move up scenario too,

812
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: I think yet Oliver goes too high right now after

813
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: his workout at you age for what they would have

814
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: to do due to move up. I think Ed Oliver

815
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: the one that jumps out to me Buffalo at nine

816
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: with their need. Kyle Williams retiring defensive head coach. You

817
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: know you're playing in a division where you certainly want

818
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: guys to go get Tom Brady rushed the quarterback. Um,

819
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that he gets past Buffalo at nine. Well,

820
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, Kyle Williams and Ed Oliver two different I know,

821
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: two different types of players. They're both defensive down lineman.

822
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: But what ed Oliver has done, especially you know, Ed

823
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: Oliver didn't have a great senior year when you put

824
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: on the tape, you know, and he only played, you know,

825
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: because he had the shoulder and then he had then

826
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: he had the issue with Major apple White. I mean,

827
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: he didn't have a great senior year. But when you

828
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: start vetting all of the things and look at it

829
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: and take all that out of it, this is a

830
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: superb athlete. All right. Let me ask you that about him.

831
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver on the sidelines gets into it with Major

832
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: apple White because he doesn't have on the right code

833
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: or so he had the code on. He had a

834
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: code on and code on. He wasn't playing. The coat

835
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: was only for guys that were playing. So okay, if

836
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: you ask me, come on, man, please, But really the

837
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: fact that he snapped back at the coach and the

838
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: fact that we're here talking about it, is this a

839
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: real thing or is this just people talk it's a thing.

840
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: It's it's it's just a thing that people can talk about.

841
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: It's not is it a thing to real people who matter?

842
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: In draft rooms? You get there and you shut the

843
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: door with Ed Oliver and you vet Ed Oliver. Okay,

844
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: you don't know. You don't know what the emotions were

845
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: at the time. You don't know what led up to

846
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: all of it. You don't know where the frustrations were

847
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Speaker 1: from him having not played. It's not a deal breaker. No,

848
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: it's not a deal breaker. It's just for something for

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Speaker 1: somebody to talk about. I do know this. I was

850
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: involved in a draft when we drafted Durell Casey here,

851
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: did a lot of deep vetting with him, you know,

852
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: when we drafted him. I was did a lot of

853
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: deep vetting. When you draft Aaron Donald, you look at

854
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: special traits. Ed Oliver has special traits, right, Okay, which

855
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: look traits usually translate to the National Football League. He's

856
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: got them. That's the best take three so far. There

857
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: you go, chach Max here probably, But if you want

858
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: to submit questions, send them to me on Twitter at

859
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: Titans Amy, or if you're watching during the show and

860
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: you have a thought. Type it into the little comment

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00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: section on whatever you're watching. Yeah, they'll pass it on

862
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: to us. We're wearing headsets for a reason. Yeah, that's right.

863
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean this is uh, this is a new studio

864
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: and we're still kind of getting all the technology together. Yeah,

865
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: figuring out as we go. It's like tomorrow, our guest

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Speaker 1: on the OTP Road to Nashville, Keith Bullock. We want

867
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Speaker 1: your questions for Keith Bullock. He's gonna preview the linebackers

868
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: in this draft. Pretty good at that he was pretty

869
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: good linebacker at his time. Coach Mac, let me tell

870
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: you something. When bull was here and I was coaching

871
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: him and the draft came up constantly. You know, I'd

872
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: be in there watching tape and he'd he'd come in

873
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: the off season sit down coach Mike. Who we're looking at,

874
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: and he'd watch a guy for a while. You know good.

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00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: I don't want him look another guy. I like him, Mac,

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00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: Let's look at him some more. Mac. This guy looks

877
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: like a dog. He's got something in him. I like this,

878
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: So he'll have some opinions. So how do they send

879
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: you the questions for Keith Bullock? On Twitter at Titan's

880
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: Amy send them to me. It's really that easy. You're

881
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 1: pretty good at this, coach. It's like you've drafted players before.

882
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: It's like you've drafted players, and it's like you've been

883
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: on radio and television before as well. You know our listeners,

884
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: our listeners know, our fans know if they've been around

885
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: me a lot, if they met me in person. I'm

886
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: not very smart, but I have done this a lot.

887
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: You have, and you are. You are very good at it,

888
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: and we're looking forward to having you on Wednesday's breaking

889
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: down players. I still can't get over how fired up

890
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: people are already about this draft and we are twenty

891
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: two days away. It's so exciting, it's so excellent. You

892
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: can't the draft is I love the draft. Who what

893
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: I miss about the draft? I missed this the phones

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00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: and working them. And because I worked the phones all

895
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: during the draft, you know, throwing chum out there in

896
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: the water and seeing who'll jump on what and and

897
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: and they're doing that now too. Yeah, they are, they're

898
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: doing that now too. Believe me, I love doing that

899
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: because that that is that, that's the guts and the

900
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: essence of this is trying to figure it out. Before

901
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: it happens, and then being able to react when something

902
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: happens that you don't have planned. I love the draft

903
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: and it being here. This is going to be like

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Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten. Good stuff for Amy

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Speaker 1: Wells and coach Dave McGinnis. I'm my key. Thanks for

906
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: being with us for the OTP road to Nashville. Remember

907
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: just twenty two players or twenty two days until players

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Speaker 1: are drafted in Nashville. We'll see tomorrow