1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Why from the parts unknown studios into the Battle Crowd, 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: the Battle Round, the. 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: Battle Crowd, Welcome to the Battleground Podcast, your place for 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: all things pro wrestling. 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: The Battle Road. The Battle Crowd now making their way 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: to the microphones. Give it up for your hosts. Welcome 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: to the Battle Crown. 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 4: What's up you guys? Welcome back into the Battleground Podcast. 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio's official wrestling podcast. I got my tag team partner 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 4: Eli on the show with us, and as you see, 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 4: the man of the Hour, Wheeler Da joins us on 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 4: the show. And I do need to apologize to you 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 4: real quick, Wheeler, because the last time you were on 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 4: our show, you were, you know, going on to win 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: the gold and you I think you actually had the 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 4: title the last time you're here. 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: Maybe no, did you have a title last time? You know? 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: I think he I think he had just beat Garcia 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: for it. I think so. So I think it was 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: when you became the two time period. 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 4: Yes, So I want to apologize because you know, when 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 4: you come on the show and you have gold, you 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 4: also have that in the background of you losing the 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 4: gold if you come on the show having it. So 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 4: I want to apologize for us jinxing you on that. 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 4: But now that you're back on you don't have gold, 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 4: you're gonna go on to win gold. We just will 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 4: figure out which one it is right. 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: Now, I'll take it. 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, But uh, you know you got a big match 31 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 4: coming up this Wednesday on aw Dynamite. You're in Canada. 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 4: You're going against Kenny Omega. Walk us through this real quick, 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: like what's going through your mind? Because I mean, Kenny 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 4: Omega just lost the IWGP US Championship at Forbidden Door, 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: so we know he's not going to be in a 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 4: good mood. And I feel bad because I feel it 37 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 4: like he's going to try to take it out on you. Well, 38 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: what's your mindset heading into this anticipated clash. 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean I'm also not in the best of moods 40 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: after I lost as well I Forbidden Door. Maybe I'll 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: take some of that anger out on him. But yeah, 42 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: I think that going into this match is a huge match. 43 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Obviously he had one of the like an absolute classic 44 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: match with will Osprey at the pay per view. 45 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: But he's got to be hurt. He's got to be. 46 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: Banged up, Like there's no way around that. Like, if 47 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: you can watch the match, you see all the all 48 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: the risks that they took, all the impact that he took, 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: so he's got to be banged up. So I think 50 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: it's that's something I could use to my advantage. But 51 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: I know that he's going to be super fired up. 52 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: He's he's not happy with me. He's not happy with 53 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: losing the US Championship. He's not happy just in general 54 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: with all the things that have been going on between 55 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: the Elite and the BCC. 56 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 3: And this is I. 57 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: Believe Kenny's first singles match on a dynamite in Canada. 58 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: Don't don't quote me on that if I'm wrong, but 59 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: I believe this is like a very special moment for him. 60 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: So he's very much gonna be angry motivated. 61 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: But I'm just as just as excited and just as 62 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: motivated to prove that I belong in this spot. 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: Do you think you're I mean, are you at your 64 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 2: highest level now going into this? 65 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: Like? 66 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: Is this one of those like if I got to 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: face Kenny Omega, you know, after your time with BCC, 68 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: I mean, is this it? I mean, is are you 69 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: at your top form? You think from you know endurance, 70 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: you know all the stuff in the ring. I mean, 71 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: it's are you at peak skill, peak level. 72 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: I can I can only continue to grow and continue 73 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: to get better. But I think I'm definitely the best 74 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: version of Wheeler Uda that I've ever been. So I'm 75 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: excited to just sort of be able to take all 76 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: those tools, all the things that I've learned from the BCC. 77 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: And I think you've seen them obviously in our multiman matches. 78 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: You've seen them in the singles matches I've had in 79 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: the past. But hopefully this is now the fully formed 80 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: wheeler Utah and I can't just start to. 81 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: Really get to that next level. 82 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: And what better way to do it than to beat 83 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: Kenny again, this time in his home country in a single. 84 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: Right, Well, let's go back to Forbidden Door real quick. 85 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: Last weekend Toronto, massive show, massive buzz. A lot of 86 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: people are already saying it's the pay per view of 87 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: the year so far. I mean, what was what was 88 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: that atmosphere like the show the weekend? I mean, just 89 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: kind of give us a glimpse of how crazy that was. 90 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Forbidden Door this year and last year were both 91 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: just absolutely phenomenal weekends, Like the crowds were incredible. 92 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: Being able to work with New Japan is incredible. 93 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: Seeing some of my friends from New Japan, from the 94 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: Super Juniors and form my time in Strong as well 95 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: as seeing some of my rivals I was not expecting 96 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: to see. I forgot that El Desperado does the Japanese 97 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: rady w so I saw him out. Oh man, I 98 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: owe this guy one. 99 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: I still want to wrestle him again. I need that rematch. 100 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: But it was really cool to be able to, you know, 101 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: see all those people from Forbidden Door, and yeah, the 102 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: crowd is just insane, Like it's an atmosphere like no 103 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: other because it's matches that you never thought would happen, 104 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: and you never thought that they would happen like on 105 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: that stage in that way, like the fact that these 106 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: people are like we had Brian o'cata, like that is 107 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: like a dream thing that like you. 108 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: Like, there's this guy on Twitter. Tom's Customs makes. 109 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Graphics that are fake graphics, like I could imagine that 110 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: being one of them, Like, yeah, a big graphic that 111 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: could have been made like five years ago that we're 112 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: never going to see. 113 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: Every happened for real. So just all that all that energy, 114 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: it makes something really special. 115 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you think about Brian, you know, wrestling 116 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 4: with his broken arm still in the match. I was like, what, 117 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: like that is that's adrenaline kicking in for that one 118 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 4: for sure. 119 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 120 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: Brian told me one time, because we always like to 121 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: joke that he's invincible, and I think he is. And 122 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: he told me one time that being invincible doesn't mean 123 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: that you can't get hurt, you can't get injured, that 124 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: things won't go wrong. It just means that all that 125 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: can happen and you're gonna do it anyways. You're gonna 126 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: push through it and do it anyways. And that's what 127 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: he did. 128 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was that was that was of a 129 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: year right there in my books as a contender when 130 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 4: you saw that one. You know, we talk about this 131 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 4: and we always love to watch the entrances when everything 132 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: happens in a show, and of course Blackpool Combat Club 133 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 4: had an amazing entrance that night and Forbidden Door. Many 134 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: people consider that match the one that turned the card 135 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 4: from solid to great despite the loss, how important was 136 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: that match for both teams? 137 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that match was very important. 138 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: You know, we really wanted to one get at each other, 139 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: but two also show like this is a really good 140 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: showcase of aw and you know, it was aw and 141 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: New Japan, of course, but it was just we wanted 142 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: to really go out and prove that we're some of 143 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: the best wrestlers in the world. And I think that 144 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: we went out there and we did that. But it 145 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: was just so much fun to be in that atmosphere 146 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: with those guys. But yeah, it was a very important match, 147 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: and I think that it really did set the stage 148 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: where now we want some revenge of blood and guts, 149 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: which I think is very important. 150 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: But it was absolutely a blast to be out there 151 00:06:59,200 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: with those guys. 152 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah that I actually wore this hoodie because y'all's entrance 153 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: from especially with Cashow with the black leather jacket and 154 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: y'all using the different song. I mean, it felt like 155 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: the Legion of Doom was invading that I was just like, 156 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: oh my god, Like it just looks so mean and 157 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: just menacing and just I mean it may not have 158 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: looked like that much on TV, but that was one 159 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: of my favorite entrances I've ever seen. It was just 160 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: I was so ready for it talking about we talked 161 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: about earlier, you and kenne Omega and this kind of 162 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: you know, you've used a lot of the tools you've gathered. 163 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: What do you think has been the biggest change, you know, 164 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: pre b C, C. Willer, Uter and now current. Is 165 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: it just tappened into the aggressive side. Do you think 166 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: is that is that been the biggest change. 167 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: I think the aggression has been a big thing, But 168 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: I also think, like just the mindset, you know, I'm 169 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: ran psychology. Yeah, yeah, like I'm focused on winning the 170 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: match first. That's my main thing, and it doesn't matter 171 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: how I do it. If I have to get a 172 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: little dirty, get a little angry, I can do that. 173 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: But I think before, you know, I was very much 174 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: focused on, you know, being a showman, kind of caring 175 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: about what other people thought of me. And now I'm 176 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: not learned with that anymore. You know, people could think 177 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: whatever they want to think about me. 178 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: It's fine. 179 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go out there and to do my 180 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: thing with the best of my ability. And you know, 181 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: the people that rock with me, cool, the people that 182 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: don't whatever, I get it. 183 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just been focusing on I'm just. 184 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: Gonna do my own thing, and if that means being 185 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: a little dirtier, being a little more aggressive, being a 186 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: little angrier, then that's fine with me. 187 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: Exactly. 188 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 4: And I mean that's the thing is like you sit 189 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: here and everybody watches you on TV, and of course 190 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 4: the IWC always has an opinion for everything. Oh I 191 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 4: don't like this or this or this as somebody who 192 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 4: is you know, and I'm sure that you see the 193 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: comments and whatnot. There's more high praises than low praises, 194 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: Like how do you just kind of differentiate of like 195 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 4: not focusing here but focusing here. 196 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I've found like the people that I go 197 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: to for feedback, so the comments that I see like 198 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: I see them, of course, but those comments don't really 199 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: affect me positively or negatively anymore. I would say, I 200 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: just I like I know who who to talk to, 201 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: Like if I have a question about something, instead of 202 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: going on Twitter, I can go backstage and talk to 203 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: a myriad of wonderful pro wrestlers who know a lot 204 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: more about what it is. But I understand like all 205 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: the comments and all the opinions, like I had plenty 206 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: of them when I was a kid, Like of course. 207 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: I was a wrestling fan, right right right, I read 208 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 2: though it's. 209 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: Weird to be like I don't want to out this website, 210 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: but there was like a website that my mom was 211 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: looking at and reading an article about, and she like 212 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: mentioned it to me. I was like, you know, that's 213 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: the same website that gave our like Gateway computer a virus, like. 214 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: Said about it. Now you're reading their articles, like, so 215 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: you know I'm to. 216 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: Get on those sites. Yeah. 217 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: I was too into it and I love to read 218 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: all that stuff too, but just for me as a performer, now, 219 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: it's not really constructive anymore, so, right, I stay away 220 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: from it. But everyone is entitled to their opinions, and 221 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: I welcome you to share them because the more the 222 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: more you talk about me, the better it is for me. 223 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: Right, those and of course those people that are sharing 224 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: the negative opinions are the same ones that come up 225 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 4: to these meet and greets and ask for your photo 226 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 4: and autograph. 227 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, oh, I loved your match the other night. 228 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 4: But then you go on Twitter and it's like use 229 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 4: your name with a bunch of numbers. It's like oh 230 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 4: blah blah blah. 231 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: Or the best part is like Wheeler only signed fifteen 232 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: things for me at the airport. Man he hates the fans. 233 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: It's like, all right, bro, come on, like the it's 234 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: just unbelievable. 235 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: It is. It is. 236 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: Well, so getting back to this rivalry, which is kind of, 237 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: you know, front and center on all of AWTV right now. 238 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: The next chapter has been announced July nineteenth, Dynamite the 239 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: Elite will face off against the Blackpool Comic Club in 240 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: a blood and guts match, which is historically insane. This 241 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,239 Speaker 2: one will be coming from the Garden and Boston. 242 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 4: And. 243 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 2: You know, this type of match should give you guys 244 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: an advantage because it's all things violent. You know, what 245 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: can people expect going into this? Is there something you're 246 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: wanting to achieve personally? Are you wanting to have the 247 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: big spot in the match or you're just wanting to 248 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: get the victory. 249 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: I mean, like to get some revenge for the sixers. 250 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: I might like throw some things. 251 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: Around the team. 252 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: There you go. 253 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: No, I think my goal is you know, just like 254 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: I said before, it is just to come out with 255 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: the win. I think that after having last year's Blood 256 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: and Guts, I really have more of a sense of 257 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: the match, so I know how to use the tools 258 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: a little bit better. Like I'd never had a cage 259 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: match before that, so now I can know I know 260 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: how to use the cage I know how to use 261 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: all these different things to our advantage. Of course, having 262 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: like the whoever the first man like the man advantage 263 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: is a big deal. Like last year we were down 264 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: a man, so every time a new person came in, 265 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: it would be Jericho Appreciation Society first and then BCC. 266 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: So it's like a bunch of mini handicap matches. So 267 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: knowing how to you know, take all those elements and 268 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: use them to our advantage, I think it's gonna be 269 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: a big thing. But yeah, I would love to, uh, 270 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, get another win just like I did at 271 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: the pay per view, and that would be I think 272 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: my ultimate goal is to win this one for the BCC. 273 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: But as long as we get our hands raised at 274 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: the end. Again, I don't really care how it happens. 275 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: And you should do a monster he'll move and come 276 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: out with a seventy six ers jersey. That would be 277 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 2: that would that would be talk about some. 278 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: Heat one the theories that probably would. 279 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, f'm oil right now. 280 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 3: So the best move. 281 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking of blood and guts, let's have a little 282 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 4: bit of fun here on this one. Who is the 283 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 4: first person that will show blood? 284 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: My money's on Moxley. 285 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: Oh my money, I think we're gonna bust open. 286 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Nick Jackson first, that's Michael. 287 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: That's he's got a punchable face, so like I can. 288 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: I mean, he sees this and then we'll get all 289 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 4: the hate on the internets. 290 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I need as well. 291 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: So I mean, who knows, but. 292 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: Well, and you know, it's been crazy with this because 293 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: you know it it kind of I don't want to 294 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 2: I won't say that anyways. There's so many layers to 295 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: the story. And I mean even you know, bringing in 296 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: Eddie and now he's got his thing with Claudio but 297 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: obviously you and him are close, and then you know 298 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: Maxley Eddie now and then all I mean, there's just 299 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: so many layers to this. And then with the Don 300 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: Kallas and Kinney Omega thing, I mean, can you comment 301 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: on Don Kallis's association with you guys? I mean, is 302 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: he kind of moving with you guys as a group? 303 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: Is it just because of uh, yeah, you get what 304 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying. I mean, is I don't know if we 305 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: have a clear answer right now. 306 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: He is not officially a member of the BCC or 307 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: anything like that. Of course, he has his association with 308 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: Takeshta and we will happily, happily take his help. You know, 309 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: he had a screwdriver handed to us and things of 310 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: that nature. But yeah, he is, he's associated, but as 311 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: of right now, definitely not not an official member or 312 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: anything like that. 313 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 314 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 4: So here's something fun that we like to ask, and 315 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 4: we've started to try, like do this year recent when 316 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 4: we go to the AI computers and we asked them 317 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: to ask wrestlers one question. Now, this is all from 318 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 4: chat GPT, so this is where it gets fun. This 319 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: is what the chat GBT wants to ask Wheeler Da. 320 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: What's been the most significant or transformative experience for you 321 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: since joining ae W and how has it impacted your 322 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 4: career as a professional wrestler. 323 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: Oh? Pretty good. 324 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 4: The other one was how did you get your start 325 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: in wrestling? And I wasn't gonna ask. 326 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that one's a lot less deep than the one 327 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: you asked. Yeah, I think you know, there's two things. 328 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: I'll give the obvious one first, I think would be 329 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: the match with John that I had actually in Boston, 330 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: So it'll be nice to go, hopefully spill someone else's 331 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: blood there instead of mine. 332 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, that that. 333 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: Match of course, like it gave me confidence, It brought 334 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: me into the VCC. I think that it earned legitimately 335 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: earned the respect of John of Regal of Brian. So 336 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: it was a really important match, I think for me 337 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: to have and it gave me. 338 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was awesome. 339 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: Like some of my friends from the independents were there, 340 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: like Drew from Beyond Wrestling, who I'd wrestled for just 341 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: right up the road and boostered like every Thursday of 342 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: my life for years. He had floor c awesome. So yeah, 343 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: that was like just such a special night me. And 344 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: I think that that really turned me into the wheeler 345 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: unter that I am today. It helped me find that 346 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: fire that eventually, you know, turned into that aggression and 347 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: that willingness to sort of do whatever I need to 348 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: do to get it done. And I think that that 349 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: that really changed me as a wrestler. Also, I would 350 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: say the hype that I recently took with Brian Dangelson. 351 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw the photos. 352 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: Actually the morning of Anarchy at the Arena, I was 353 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: up at like four am, went went met Brian. We 354 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: went on this long, beautiful hike and it was it 355 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: was nice to sort of, I guess, detach, but then 356 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: also focused and we got to talk about a lot 357 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: of things that were like it was. It was really 358 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: nice to sort of have that time to go talk 359 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: and just sort of take things in as opposed to 360 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: just always being go, go go. So that was a 361 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: really special, special time for me and sort of put 362 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: some things into perspective that I don't want to necessarily 363 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: bring up for everyone to know, but. 364 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: It was, Yeah, that's that's between you and you yourself, 365 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 4: so we're. 366 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: Not yet, Yeah, but it was. It was really special. 367 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: And then of course he made me start doing push 368 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: ups and bridges rock so there's like there he I 369 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: don't know if he'll ever share it, but there's a 370 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: video of me just doing as many lion pushups as 371 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: I could possibly do and about halfway through the hike, 372 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: and then we have to finish the hikes. 373 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a whole other levels. 374 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: A lot of fun, and I think it was a 375 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: very special day for me. 376 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: Note to self, do not take a hike with Danielson. 377 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: Thank you. 378 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, unless you're training for something, don't do Yeah. 379 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well I'm not training for anything, so I 380 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 4: don't have to worry about that at at all. 381 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: Well with with the big match coming up this this 382 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: Wednesday with Kenney Omega, I mean, what what you know, 383 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: what final thoughts do you have for that? And then 384 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: from there, you know what, where can we keep up 385 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: with you online? What are your socials you go to 386 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: and all that? 387 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 4: Uh? 388 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll start with the socials because I'm not great 389 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: at them. At Wheeler, Utah is my Twitter and Instagram. 390 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: Honestly, I would say if you want to know about me, 391 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: follow the aw social media. They tweet a lot more 392 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: than I do. I made a joke that I used 393 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: to tweet once a month and now I'm like twice 394 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: a month. 395 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: Prog Yeah, progress. 396 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: That we're moving up in the world. 397 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: And then as far as the match with Kenny, I 398 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: think that it's going to be something special. It's another 399 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: opportunity for me to continue to prove myself as a 400 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: member of the DCC, and it's an opportunity for me, 401 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: honestly to end the war before we even get the 402 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: blood and guts. My goal is that in blood Guts 403 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: we'll walk out there and it'll just be a massacre 404 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: or a surrender. It'll be one or the other. Because 405 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: I have already decided the war by taking out Kenny. 406 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: So that's my goal for and hopefully I get it 407 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: down an Edmonton. 408 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 4: And that's what's going to happen this Wednesday night on Dynamite. 409 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 4: Of course you can watch it here in Nashville time, 410 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 4: which is seven o'clock but Eastern time eight o'clock there. 411 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 4: And you know, last thing before we go, what's the 412 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: next thing? You beat Kenny Omega, because we put that 413 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 4: out in the universe. You win blood and guts, we 414 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 4: put that out in the universe. What's next on the horizon? 415 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: Is there is there a title that you want to 416 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 4: go after? I mean, Christian Page thinks he is the 417 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 4: TNT champion even though he didn't win. 418 00:18:59,240 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: It. 419 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 4: Is that some and you want to go after? Maybe 420 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 4: do you want to go after the pure title? 421 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: I could see you and Claudia maybe taking going after FTR. 422 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: I think that would it'd be some good, uh good 423 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: wrestling drama there. 424 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, these are these are all great options that I 425 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: think I'd like to do. But I think for me personally, 426 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: the next thing, you know, obviously I want to end 427 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: end this war with the Elite and we want to 428 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: come out on top. But I don't really like how 429 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: Eddie Kingston's been acting lately. I don't like how he's 430 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: been treating us. I know he's going to go to 431 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: the g one, so he's going to be gone for 432 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: a while, so I guess he'll escape us for a 433 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: little bit. 434 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't like that. Like you said, we've 435 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: been friends for a very long time. 436 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: Him and John have been friends for even longer than that, 437 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: and it just seems like he's kind of throwing all 438 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: that away because he doesn't like Claudio and that that's 439 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: upsetting because you know, I thought we were I thought 440 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: we were friends, and I thought that our friends more 441 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: than that that you could, you know, mind your own 442 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: damn business for a few minutes while we'd go do 443 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: our thing. But I guess, I guess so Eddie Kingston 444 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: would be someone I'd love to go after. And I 445 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: think that me and the best friends will never be 446 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: done fighting, So I think that i'd love speaking to championships, 447 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: love to go after that international championship one day. 448 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 2: Be sweet, I could see that happening. 449 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 4: And of course you're on this show, so you go 450 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 4: on to win the gold so that you know how 451 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 4: this works. 452 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: So that's the plan for Wheeler. 453 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: You well, buddy, we. 454 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 4: Want to say thank you for taking the time out 455 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 4: of your busy schedule to hang out with us and 456 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: talk with us. Looking forward to seeing your hand getting 457 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 4: raised on Wednesday night over Kenney Omega in his home country, 458 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 4: because again we're putting it out there in the universe, 459 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 4: because that's got to be a big notch for you 460 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 4: to beat Kenney Omega. 461 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're making me fly to Edmonton on the 462 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: fourth of July. That is offensive. 463 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: Fourth not right, not right. 464 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: Well, Wheeler, we just want to say thank you once 465 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 4: again for taking the time out of your busy schedule 466 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: man and talking with us, and we look forward to 467 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 4: seeing you this Wednesday night on Dynamite. 468 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Thank you. Guys. 469 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 5: We hope you enjoyed today's episode of the Battleground Podcast. 470 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 5: Make sure you give it five stars and a nice review. 471 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 5: To stay up to date with the show, follow them 472 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 5: at Battleground Podcast on Instagram.