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Speaker 1: Always Unpluggers Forgotten Season.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody to another episode of Forgotten Seasons. This

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Speaker 2: is your host, Dylan Dreyfuss. Today we are sticking in

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Speaker 2: the nineties. Last week we did the ninety four Rockets

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Speaker 2: with Vernon Maxwell. This week we got the ninety three

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Speaker 2: Nets with a forgotten star point god, Kenny Anderson. If

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Speaker 2: you don't know who Kenny Anderson is, definitely break out.

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Speaker 2: The Basketball Reference number two pick in the ninety one

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Speaker 2: draft out of Georgia Tech to the Nets. This is

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Speaker 2: year two for him. In ninety three puts up seventeen

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Speaker 2: and eight per game. Man was just a problem. Surrounding

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Speaker 2: Anderson in ninety three was the late great Drasen Petrovich

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Speaker 2: and another forgotten stud, Derrick Coleman. This was Drosen's last

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Speaker 2: season in the league. He tragically passes away just a

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Speaker 2: few months into the ninety three summer. In his last year,

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Speaker 2: he was at his absolute best. Put up twenty two

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Speaker 2: a game, shot forty four percent from deep, just the

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Speaker 2: second player ever to do that, and since then, all

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Speaker 2: most thirty years later, only a handful of players have

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Speaker 2: made those marks. Anderson calls Dereck Coleman the best player

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Speaker 2: that he ever played with, and it makes sense in

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Speaker 2: the five years that Coleman was on the Nets from

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Speaker 2: ninety one to ninety five put up twenty ten and

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Speaker 2: three a game. Six foot ten lefty, skilled monster could

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Speaker 2: beast That big three Anderson, Coleman, and Petrovich did not

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Speaker 2: get a chance to see the entire season. Through late

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Speaker 2: February Nets Nicks, Anderson is on the break, John Starks

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Speaker 2: comes from behind, fouls him hard. Kenny breaks his wrist

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Speaker 2: out for the year. Without him, the team gets bounced

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Speaker 2: in the first round by the Mark Price Calves and

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Speaker 2: they never got a chance to run it back. Reminderer

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Speaker 2: drop a rating and a review on the podcast Let's

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Speaker 2: get into It Now Kenny Anderson on the nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: three Nets begins right now, Ka, you got the Nets

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Speaker 2: skier on already.

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling today, man.

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Speaker 1: I'll feeling great. Man. I got up this morn and

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Speaker 1: saw I'm blessed. So I'm blessed.

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Speaker 4: So I just you know, I just want to, you know, basically,

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Speaker 4: just get back to the game I love, and that's basketball.

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Speaker 2: Before we get into Nets, talk. We got to quickly

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Speaker 2: talk about this upcoming documentary on Showtime point Guards. Can

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Speaker 2: you just give the fans and the viewers a little

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Speaker 2: taste of what we can expect.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's gonna pinpoint a lot of the great point

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Speaker 4: guards in New York City history. And you know, Rod

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Speaker 4: strickland Mark Jackson, Kenny Smith, Pearl Washington.

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Speaker 1: That's the era that I watched those guys, Kenny.

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Speaker 4: I watched those guys grow up, and I wanted to

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Speaker 4: be a great point guard and I wanted to play

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Speaker 4: like them, and you know, and then it goes back,

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Speaker 4: you know to Sham God, Steph R.

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Speaker 1: Marlbury. There's so many great point guards, Barrett.

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Speaker 4: That went to Seaton Hall, and it's just great. It's

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Speaker 4: just great man being in this documentary pinpointing New York.

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Speaker 4: You know where I'm from, So it's just great man.

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Speaker 4: But all I'm just going to give all my New

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Speaker 4: Yorkers point guards to love, because that's that's what they deserve.

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Speaker 4: That's what they deserve.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's me I played for you know.

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Speaker 4: Fourteen years in the NBA, two years in college, four

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Speaker 1: Basketball has been easy for me.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's the other things in life that was

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Speaker 4: I did that, and I'm just doing great right now,

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Speaker 4: and this is a great time for point guards to

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Speaker 3: Check it out.

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Speaker 2: Kenny's one of the main characters. You're going to recognize

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Speaker 2: a lot of the faces. And for today's interviews purposes,

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Speaker 2: we're actually sticking in the New York, New Jersey area.

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Speaker 2: We're going back to ninety two to ninety three New

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Speaker 2: Jersey Net season. This was your breakout season in the league.

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Speaker 2: First of all, you come into the Nets organization number

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Speaker 2: any part of you that's like, ah, you know across

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Speaker 4: I was excited to be going to number two. But

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Speaker 1: I was like, wow, going back home. So it was

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Speaker 4: It was a great feeling for myself, for my mother

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Speaker 2: So you sort of helped shift the tide in New

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Speaker 2: Chuck Daily comes in. He leaves Detroit, has that legendary

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Speaker 2: coming off coaching the Dream Team in Barcelona in ninety two.

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Speaker 2: When you're a rookie, you're mostly coming off the bench,

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Speaker 2: d you take that huge leap. Easily could have been

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Speaker 1: The practice, the mina.

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Speaker 4: You know, he he's a great coach, a great man

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Speaker 4: and rest of peach Chuck.

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Speaker 1: Daly, I love him.

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Speaker 4: You know, he came in, he gave We talked before

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Speaker 4: he took the job, and he said, it's just show now,

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Speaker 4: show me, show me what you could do, not only

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Speaker 1: Get this team to get behind me. And I did that.

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Speaker 4: Chris Morris Derrek Coleman draws a petrevig. We just had

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Speaker 4: the East Eastern Conference was awesome, great competition and you

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Speaker 1: Let me do my thing, and I did it.

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Speaker 2: What are your first memories just coming into training camp

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Speaker 2: there a moment or a picture where you guys are

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I really don't remember, you know, but I

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Speaker 4: knew playing with Draws and Petrivig rest in peace. That's

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Speaker 4: my guy. His work ethic. And I looked at him

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Speaker 1: And Derek Coleman was awesome.

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Speaker 4: Uh, He's probably the best player I ever played with.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I played with some some great some great

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Speaker 4: just was great playing with the nets for for for

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Speaker 4: it just was never no cohesiveness after the after the

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Speaker 1: But we clicked that year, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And it was just hard the competition level.

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Speaker 4: It's hard because we was playing in that Jordan era

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Speaker 1: It was just it was just great competition though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of those East battlesman, what was it like

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Speaker 2: You can put your arm on there. So what's it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was tough, but you know that's the NBA

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Speaker 1: It was just different.

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Speaker 4: Back in my days we played against the Knicks when

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Speaker 4: I missed it. I missed that era. But the NBA

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Speaker 1: Know, for the fan fear and things of that nature.

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Speaker 1: We just I had to get with it, and I did.

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Speaker 2: Pivoting back to Drasen quickly, I mean, this season again,

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Speaker 2: rest in peace. This is last season in the league.

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Speaker 2: He averages twenty three game shoots forty five percent from three.

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Speaker 2: Drawsen like, you know, kind of off the court? Like

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Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't scared of everybody.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, those European players always come in and people throw

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Speaker 4: On the court, I know him a lot, you know,

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Speaker 4: their own thing. But when we showed up. We was more.

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Speaker 4: We was a team. He was a great guy, real quiet,

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Speaker 4: you know. I think he wanted to belong. He just

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Speaker 4: worked extremely hard to say, hey, I did it overseas

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Speaker 4: It was tough for him when he when he passed,

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Speaker 4: think with the Philly it was just this was bad

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Speaker 4: he was a great player. He worked extremely hard to

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Speaker 4: It was rough, you know, getting my wrist broke and

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Speaker 4: I think you bring in a guy Ramel Robinson played.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's it's it's a shame what happened

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Speaker 4: And that's why when you win one, you just you

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 4: That's the only two things I missed out on. But

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Speaker 3: I mean, things can just change so quickly, right.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, you just don't know, man, You just I

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Speaker 3: I believe.

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Speaker 4: I had some good years with the Boston Celtics. I

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Speaker 4: You just gotta get up and go.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think I think you had nothing but

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Speaker 3: Not you know, how many guys played fourteen years in

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think when you look back on

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Speaker 2: five Draws and twenty eight. You know, realistly that should

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Speaker 2: be at least, you know, four or five years where

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Speaker 2: you're all together, and who knows where you could have

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Speaker 2: gone after that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, you just don't know.

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Speaker 4: I always I think about it every now and then,

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Speaker 4: you know, what could we do with Draws in myself

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Speaker 4: Derek Coleman, But it's all it's it's gone now, you know.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Chicago won those championships.

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Speaker 4: But we was competitive. We was gonna be competitive against anybody.

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Speaker 4: If I would have still been in that line up,

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Speaker 4: I know it.

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Speaker 1: I know it.

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Speaker 3: I believe it.

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Speaker 2: Uh real quick. Just transitioning into some quick hitters nineties edition.

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Speaker 2: I gotta ask, where do you think those light light

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Speaker 2: blue and red nets Jersey's ranking in the best jerseys ever?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: They all they probably number one. I love them. They're great.

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Speaker 4: They're great in my nets Jersey. Uh, the blue blue

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Speaker 4: on everybody loved that one.

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Speaker 1: Uh, royal blue. The royal blue was awesome. And you

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Speaker 1: know I had some great times with New Jersey.

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Speaker 4: Uniforms is awesome and I had some I met some

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Speaker 4: great people along the way, you know with the New

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Speaker 4: Jersey nets.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's just playing in the NBA. But it's

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Speaker 4: been awesome for me fourteen years. Like I said, I

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Speaker 4: keep saying, my mother enjoyed it. I was right over

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Speaker 4: the bridge. You know, I could go see my mother

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Speaker 4: on my days off, stuff like that, and you know,

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Speaker 4: it's just awesome. And now the Brooklyn Nets is in Brooklyn,

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Speaker 4: and it's even closer because I grew up in Left

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Speaker 4: Rock City, right around the corner from Brooklyn Nets, Barclay Arena.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's just awesome, man, my career, m.

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Speaker 3: No, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: So all right, nineties edition, starting five, you at the point,

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Speaker 2: round out the starting five. Just just nineties players, a

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Speaker 2: dream starting five with the nets or no, no, just anybody.

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Speaker 2: So so you at the point and then.

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Speaker 1: Oh me at the point.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be at the pointment enjoying at the two,

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Speaker 4: keep at the three. I keep Elijah on at the three. No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: he had the four. I love I love Scottie Pippen game.

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Speaker 4: I feel he's you know, everybody beat beat me up

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Speaker 4: and get on me when I say he's probably and

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Speaker 4: it's a lot of threes, but I'm going with Scottie Pippen, man,

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Speaker 4: he was just an awesome player. Me Jordan's pipping Elijah

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Speaker 4: maon and I gotta go with the dominant shack Shaquille

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Speaker 4: O'Neal at the five.

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Speaker 1: That's just a that's a ball five.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's nobody's messing with that five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a ball five.

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Speaker 4: And then my man DC coming off the bench, that's

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Speaker 4: my guy coming off the bitch.

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Speaker 1: He might be in there, he might be pissed off,

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Speaker 1: he ain't starting, but yo back for ten minutes you

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Speaker 1: get in.

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Speaker 3: Maybe need some spacing.

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Speaker 2: The key team in shack put DC in there.

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Speaker 3: Who who are your top five point guards of all time?

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Speaker 4: Well, my man, First of all, it is tiny Archiball.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's the number one. I love his game. Uh.

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Speaker 4: Top five, Isaiah Thomas, he gotta be in there. He's

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Speaker 4: Magic Johnson. And then you know guys that I really like,

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Speaker 4: you know, uh, Kenny Smith, you know, just jumping ability,

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Speaker 4: shoot the three, shoot the ball.

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Speaker 1: Treat me well, uh, you gotta Mark Jackson roster. You

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Speaker 1: gotta give me more than five.

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Speaker 4: Those are just awesome players that I watch, I grow

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Speaker 4: up on, and uh, I.

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Speaker 1: Love those guys. They're good people, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching the game now, any any current point

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Speaker 2: guards you you really like tapping into?

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Speaker 1: Dame Lillard?

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Speaker 4: I love his game, Love Steph Carey's game, Kyrie Irving,

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Speaker 4: Uh all these the young the young point guards. What's

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Speaker 4: the young guy from from Charlotte. Well, I think he

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Speaker 4: could really really do well, you know, in the league,

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Speaker 4: but he gotta let some of the flair go out

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Speaker 4: of it and just play point guard position. And I

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Speaker 4: think he would do great, and Marcus Smart is a

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Speaker 4: real now Marcus mart could play in our era, you know,

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Speaker 4: and then because he's a hard nosed player, defensive player.

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Speaker 2: And he's flops too much.

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Speaker 4: Though yeah, it wouldn't be no flopping because the referee,

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Speaker 4: you know, there's no flopping and the team will tell

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Speaker 4: him you ain't no flopping here in the nineties. But

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Speaker 4: he's a great point guard. It's but David Lilla is

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Speaker 4: one of the top.

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Speaker 1: Point guards in the league.

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Speaker 4: He's awesome. Stephans Carry of course could shoot the ball.

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Speaker 4: And I played with Dale Kerry his father and Charlotte,

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Speaker 4: so you know, got to give him love.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Well, Kenny, hey, I really appreciate your time. Man. Three

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Speaker 2: nets a great season. Really fun to look back again.

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Speaker 2: Point God showtime, July twenty ninth, catch Kenny and the

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Speaker 2: rest of New York City greats.

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Speaker 3: Any closing words.

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Speaker 1: He got, Yeah, I'm coaching here.

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Speaker 4: I'm coaching now at Fish University, Nai School school. I

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Speaker 4: need players, so definitely, man, I need bigs. We need

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Speaker 4: I need bigs because gods we're DOMA doesn't. But it's

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Speaker 4: a great school, great academic school, one of the best

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Speaker 4: in the country. But I'm trying to build a basketball

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Speaker 4: program up there, and I will I will. I've been

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Speaker 4: there for three years and it's really exciting for me.

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Speaker 4: I really love teaching these young men, not about basketball,

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Speaker 4: but about life. So I love coaching and I got

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Speaker 4: that from my high school coach, Jack Karron passed away

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Speaker 4: about fifteen years ago, and that's why I want to

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Speaker 4: give back, and that's why I'm coaching. But uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's just great to teach those guys about life. Basketball

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Speaker 4: is one thing, but also life experiences is awesome.

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Speaker 1: No doubt.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're seem like a great person to learn from,

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Speaker 2: not just basketball but life. And again, I really appreciate

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Speaker 2: your time, Kenny, and I'm looking forward for the world

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Speaker 2: to seeing you and the rest of the New York

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Speaker 2: City point guds.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you a man.

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Speaker 2: That's a wrap for today, Kenny Anderson on the ninety

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Speaker 2: three Nets. This is your host, Dylan Dreyfus.

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Speaker 3: Sign an off. I'll catch you next week.

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Speaker 2: Reminder drop a rating and a review until next week.

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Speaker 1: Peace