WEBVTT - In a Hough and a Puff with Derek Hough

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we're now on the record, now on the record. Hi, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a just Kristen today. Jk get a Jake, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just us, no kit Kat. We have some good memories together,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I we've really done it good, like duo

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<v Speaker 1>moments together in the past. I got real emotional this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know you wrote quite an emotional and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, first I thought you were canceling. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it was my first thing. Actually was going to

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<v Speaker 1>change it, and I kind of wanted you guys to

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<v Speaker 1>think it so that you would go in like a

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<v Speaker 1>too use thematic pregnant person. Well no, I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>you to like really read because I was like, everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>going to see a paragraph and dip out. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, no, this is her. I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>Preston seven match. I was like, oh, she's canceling. No,

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<v Speaker 1>her own baby shower. Here we go. No, I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>a little shower. And I just am emotional because it's

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<v Speaker 1>my last baby. How do we know for sure though,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm a hundred Well no, I mean our friend

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy had a baby until forty she was forty five. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just so we're super clear. Yeah, I just got

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<v Speaker 1>emotional this morning. I was like, it just means a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I got I just was thinking of all

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<v Speaker 1>the things you and I have done, chapters, husbands, babies,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, we're going on almost a decade. Kramer, right, Oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot. It's a lot, I know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget the moment that you were sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>my bus bed and you told me that you were

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant with love and it was just and You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>funny thing, funny story.

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<v Speaker 3>Me too, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of where it started. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>really did it, and we continue to do it supportive

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<v Speaker 1>and good. It's I get the the lasts of things,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I remember when I was putting away Jase's I

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<v Speaker 1>was taking apart his crib and building his like first

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<v Speaker 1>little toddler crib bed, and I remember just crying, going,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the last crib I'm going to have, and

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like having that like cry fast and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm you know, with us moving to the new house,

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<v Speaker 1>the designer was like, hey, do you want a big

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<v Speaker 1>boy bed for Jace oh, and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he does have a big boy bed. She's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a I mean that's like what like a

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<v Speaker 1>really small like a twin thing. Yeah. And she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Jolie has a I think she might have

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<v Speaker 1>either a full or queen. Yeah. And I was just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk about right now. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot like I cried when we took apart the crib

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<v Speaker 1>every time, did you keep the crib?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, yeah, there's just I remember like going, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to sell these things, like the clothes, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I everyone knows that I enjoy getting dressed for myself,

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<v Speaker 1>so the fact that I mean, imagine when I have

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<v Speaker 1>these two little clients that I get to get dressed.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have so many like rubber maids of just

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<v Speaker 1>like honestly at least fourteen rubber maids of like clothes

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<v Speaker 1>in our attic and the crib, and I could never

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of either, and I just every single time

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<v Speaker 1>I just would look at Preston. I was like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>too much, and I would just close the attic door.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think I always knew that you always knew

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have another one. Well, I always wanted another one,

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<v Speaker 1>but Preston's a middle kid, and so he was the

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<v Speaker 1>reason we did not at first have another one. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he came to me and said, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we make really cool people, you do, And I was like, well, respectfully,

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<v Speaker 1>I raise cool people. Well you're on a tour bus.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll take the indirect compliment. That's fine, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not wrong. So we tried for two years and nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't try for two years, I mean like

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<v Speaker 1>actively trying each month, like I'm ovulating. Yeah, wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't take you that along with legend love. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm spoiled in that way. I always am hesitant to

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<v Speaker 1>even share that because I'm surrounded by so many and

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<v Speaker 1>I work with so many moms that have struggles getting

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant and if they can get pregnant, keeping the baby.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've never that's never been an issue. So two

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<v Speaker 1>years and I kind of just thought it was just

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna happen for us. Yeah, and then here we are,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're you can now close the attic door once.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it. As I climbed your stairs like it

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<v Speaker 1>was Mount Everest today and needed an oxygen tank. Right

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<v Speaker 1>around the third or fourth stair, I was like, Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>this will do it, this will be it. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>really thankful. It's interesting. Sorry, I'm just alive on my

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<v Speaker 1>mom that you talked about the clothes, because I thought so.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was first pregnant with Jolie, Catherine was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see what you dress like high

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<v Speaker 1>you're to dress your little girl. And at first I

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<v Speaker 1>would put like the cutest things together, and then within

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<v Speaker 1>like a few months, I was like, oh, screw this,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's a lot of work. It is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work. And then it's really expensive too. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>remember I bought Jolie a pair of I think they

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<v Speaker 1>were Oh they were like Jannati Zuppie or whatever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>really about like zepis is I love us some brand?

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<v Speaker 1>Like we made this joke on stage out wind down

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<v Speaker 1>about not knowing brand, like not being able to say it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So those are expensive, expensive, And that's the only pair

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever bought that was expensive because I'm like m

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<v Speaker 1>M because they all grow them. What I did do, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is there was a Onesie. There was a Onesie and

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<v Speaker 1>a PJ that I kept of Jolie's that it was like, yeah, Cramer,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I mean like I kept like her lovey

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<v Speaker 1>and like you know, stuff like that, but no clothes. Wise,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I kept. I have two rubber maids of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that no other baby will touch, that will get

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<v Speaker 1>passed down to love and legends kids. Yeah. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>want it to be nothing. That's the thing. I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I got some stuff passed down for my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and then like even like Mike's parents were like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>here's like a cute little PJS at that mic war

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<v Speaker 1>so like we put that on Jas and that was

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<v Speaker 1>really cute. So like, I've kept like literally one or

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<v Speaker 1>two things. I don't know why. For me, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, I like, I wish I could do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I'm also like, well why would I keep

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<v Speaker 1>the extra because I'm just like I don't like stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't either. Interesting fun fact. Fun fact. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think I always knew someone else was coming, or

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<v Speaker 1>I prayed. I always felt it. I always wanted three

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<v Speaker 1>or four, and I tried to reconcile my brain that

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<v Speaker 1>the one we lost was the third m but I

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't. So I don't know if I was just

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to the age where it was like medically impossible

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<v Speaker 1>for me to have another baby, and then I could

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<v Speaker 1>sell it all or what the deal was. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've kept all the CL's the cloth in the crib.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. And I'm really super lucky because we have

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<v Speaker 1>two friends in our friend groups that have had their

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<v Speaker 1>third babies two June's ago and then last June, and

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<v Speaker 1>so by this June, I'm getting all the good hand

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<v Speaker 1>me downs. Oh that's great, yes, and don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>buy a bunch of I don't like gadgets. Stresses me out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like all the gadgets, like here's your sanitizer bottle. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I went through your lists and it was very minimal, minimal.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, she either has kept all of them

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<v Speaker 1>m m or or I'm on the organ trail Oregon trail.

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<v Speaker 1>Then covered a wagon did this and I can't we

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Bryce and I were trying to figure out. We're like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think she really wants from this list?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I don't really think she Like, she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need no any of Like I didn't even want

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<v Speaker 1>to make a registry, but you do need it though.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing I got the shape like as you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. So it's like I'm just happy that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you did do that because my friends are going

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<v Speaker 1>to buy big bows and like if it's a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>it will be I'll be inundated with like bow's as

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<v Speaker 1>big as a tad. And I was like, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that, so I got to keep it real streamline.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally think the most offensive gifts are from the

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<v Speaker 1>in laws or the parents. I don't or they were

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<v Speaker 1>they like Jolie still can't fit into certain clothes. That's

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<v Speaker 1>like they've been she's she was given me three years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>like twelve. I was like, it's big. It's big on

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<v Speaker 1>her mom. Yet it's like I can wear my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember with Love. So we did find out Love's gender.

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<v Speaker 1>We did not find out Legends gender, and we're not

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<v Speaker 1>finding out this one's gender. Say I would want to

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<v Speaker 1>do that in the third it's so fun. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so fun with Legend that I was because Amazon Prime

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<v Speaker 1>and Target makes it so easy now to collect things.

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<v Speaker 1>Its fast, like I could have a whole room done

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<v Speaker 1>by the time I leave the hospital, you know. But

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<v Speaker 1>my mom was like, so I got Love her take

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<v Speaker 1>home outfit, like the outfit she was going to wear

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<v Speaker 1>them from the hospital and moms of that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, doesn't that seem intimate or personal like

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<v Speaker 1>something the mom or Okay, just checking because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>being like, oh, okay she was again, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>what she'll wear on the way made sure she like

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<v Speaker 1>said it three times did Yeah, yeah, that's nice for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Second baby was more boundaries than the third baby. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not what no visitors told July I need to. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm gonna need you to hold a leg.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in deep now, Grammar. I mean, this is your baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I've come me to the hospital and duh, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so glad we're out of the I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine the COVID era of pregnancies because all those moms

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<v Speaker 1>deserve a refund. Really, I mean truly having the labor

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<v Speaker 1>with mass On, Oh can't. I have so many words

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<v Speaker 1>for that. But yeah, and then the people not being

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<v Speaker 1>able to be there, So that part I actually wished

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<v Speaker 1>was a rule for me. You know, I love a boundary.

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<v Speaker 1>I want everybody there. Okay, this is our personalities. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you a Jana?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a like?

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<v Speaker 1>I like I when I had Jolie, it was in laws,

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<v Speaker 1>my parents, Catherine, where were you my, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're always I have both FaceTime pictures of me and

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Yeah, with you and I So I think you

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<v Speaker 1>were LA with love La. Well you had love yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jace, so but you were in LA yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't be in my right church yeah, but no

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<v Speaker 1>for my like yeah, I'm like, I'm more the merrier.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when I had Jace in Los Angeles, like

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<v Speaker 1>we had his parents fly in, so I love and

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<v Speaker 1>like Sarah Gretzky came to the hospital like I'm I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have music going? Will you labor?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Here was my with my Well, y'all can listen to Jace's.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the most like embarrassing labor podcast episode I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever done, because it's me going like I got that pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I just threw up. Like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's I'm like, why we're in the right vie do this?

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<v Speaker 1>And why did we we podcasted our delivery like literally

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<v Speaker 1>Mike pressed for cord and it was and we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>edit any of that down. No, Okay, those are the

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<v Speaker 1>things on this episode of sea of regret for my

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<v Speaker 1>sea section of Jason, but like I am the worst,

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<v Speaker 1>like because I have to have sea sections, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they had to knock me out both pregnancies. They had

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<v Speaker 1>to or they were just like, let's do ourselves as solid. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I started freaking out because I can't feel my legs.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like I was like, I can't feel my legs.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have been my a doula for you. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I could have really helped you. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just think that's the most traumatizing. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to not be able to feel my

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<v Speaker 1>legs but feels. And so when I then woke up

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, they're like seasong my belly, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>baby comes out. I'm still like high on xanax or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they gave me. So they placed the baby or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever dead dio is a pan or whatever, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they laid the baby on my chest. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>that moment is kind of when I start to come to.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that's when I'm like, oh, gave you give

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<v Speaker 1>me the more I said, They're like, we can't give

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<v Speaker 1>you any more about I said, I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it is the weekend at Bernie's legs. That will start

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<v Speaker 1>to make a girl Panmic I'll say, I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. Sorry, I don't mean to figure out as

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, no, I feel really good. I like calm, quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>no people very sacred like it is. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>anyone in the room while I'm doing I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't with the see section. Besides, you're like person. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to share this little brief story because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of moms have been messaging me about just my opinions

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<v Speaker 1>on boundaries and my openness about my parents. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>really sweet, actually, but this is a brief story. So

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<v Speaker 1>I made this post the other day about like we

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<v Speaker 1>have shut down visitors for six weeks at our house

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, none of our family lives here, so

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<v Speaker 1>when they come to visit, they have to like move

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<v Speaker 1>in for days. And that's a lot for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>and that's I'm just not that person. And I've tried

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to be that person. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not christ Like to not be that person. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>really gotten like holy and in the depths, and I

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<v Speaker 1>still can't do it. So now I just know that's

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<v Speaker 1>just who I am, and that's Okay, thank you Amy

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander at the refuge center. Really I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to sing it because only one of us does that,

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<v Speaker 1>so not very well. So I made this post and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, we're not accepting visitors. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>sacred time. Like it's just like I have waited for

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<v Speaker 1>the deep breath of like that was our last visitor,

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<v Speaker 1>that was my last sheet set to wash, and now

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<v Speaker 1>we just get to be together in this sacred space.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I've really pushed it out to like not

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<v Speaker 1>even the grandparents until July, which I'm sure I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to get a lot of hate. I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 1>we're due beginning of June. But my world is me

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<v Speaker 1>with these kids and sometimes a Dada when he's off

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<v Speaker 1>the road. So like it's a little more disruptive and

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<v Speaker 1>less helpful when I have guests in the house. So

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I had requested that the two days I

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<v Speaker 1>was in the hospital with Love that we have no

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<v Speaker 1>family at the hospital. That Creston and I had just

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<v Speaker 1>met each other like five minutes before that, so we

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<v Speaker 1>were still trying to get to know each other and

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<v Speaker 1>our baby, and I had the weekend to Bernie's legs

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<v Speaker 1>and a bedpan. I was peeing in a bedpan. Reston said,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and my brother are outside the door. His

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<v Speaker 1>mom lived six hours away. And I just had a

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<v Speaker 1>big smile and I go why and he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they drove down, and I said, with a horrible idea,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were in the room when we moved up

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<v Speaker 1>to the room you settle into outside of the delivery room.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the next morning, eight am, his brother and

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<v Speaker 1>his mom were in my hospital room. Now first baby,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like learning how to breastfeed, Like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>my boobs out with my mother in law. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>Church of Christ preacher woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I just was like, what is happening? And his brother

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<v Speaker 1>says all right, Mom, we'll see you after work and

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<v Speaker 1>starts to head for the door, and I go when

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<v Speaker 1>is after work? Six pm?

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm?

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<v Speaker 1>And I had to call a meeting. I was like okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at the nurse and I was like, can

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<v Speaker 1>you clear the room? And she was like uh huh,

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<v Speaker 1>like she must do like you know, like I needed

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<v Speaker 1>a check or something. So mom and everybody had to

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<v Speaker 1>step outside. And I just looked at my husband and

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I can't I don't want to be half

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<v Speaker 1>naked in front of your mom all day I'm learning

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<v Speaker 1>how to Oh, that was something that should have been

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<v Speaker 1>discussed beforehand. Like that was very unfair to put you

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation because then you look like the bad

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<v Speaker 1>person too. Yeah, to be like, well, Kristen doesn't want you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Like that's not fair. I

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<v Speaker 1>just felt like the room lost all oxygen and it

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<v Speaker 1>got really really tiny. And she's a great, wonderful woman,

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<v Speaker 1>like she's she's microscopic, and no matter how it's your times,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't need now six weeks, no, no visitors mm hmmm,

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<v Speaker 1>uh huh? Is pressing going to be home that entire time? No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's hardly ever home really, he's on a ten day

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<v Speaker 1>run right now. But why would she want no? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like my I have my friends here, right I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't need family in the house. Can they not? Can

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<v Speaker 1>they come and just stay at like in a hotel?

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<v Speaker 1>They could, but we'd pay for that, Oh you would?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh yeah, okay, trust hmm. The third times a

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<v Speaker 1>charm Cramer. I'm proud of you for just putting your

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<v Speaker 1>foot down on the last one. How long is p

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<v Speaker 1>get to stay home for who no days? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that doesn't seem We've got a four day window

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<v Speaker 1>between mid May and mid June that he'll be in

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<v Speaker 1>town while I go into labor. So he had to

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<v Speaker 1>fly in the day. Legend was born from Ontario Friday

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<v Speaker 1>night in August, canceled a show and was out the

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<v Speaker 1>next day. Well, so we'll just see you got your

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<v Speaker 1>tribe here. I'm glad you're here. Grammar, that is all

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say. Oh I love it. Hold my

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<v Speaker 1>baby hair. Speaking of babies, let's see if Derek Huff

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<v Speaker 1>has any babies on his mind. Let's take a break,

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<v Speaker 1>get him on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, guys, what's up. How you doing? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we were talking babies, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just love to stir the pot because last time I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>when are you getting engaged?

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<v Speaker 2>And then it was like and now when do you

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<v Speaker 2>have a baby?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, It's like that's like the next the next topic.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, speaking up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready, really, I'm ready to get on it. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>do this.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, we babies, Anna is in the practice, or

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<v Speaker 1>Anna is in the family growing?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh all of the above.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, oh I like that, how many kids do

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<v Speaker 1>you want?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah, I think we'll start with one and.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how but I will say I will say vow.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to Valaja's baby like five days after she

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<v Speaker 3>had had a home and and val was so cool man,

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<v Speaker 3>he was just like, you know, hey, bro, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like we're like these overachievers and we're like, you know

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<v Speaker 3>all this, but like there's nothing like this, and I

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<v Speaker 3>just my only regrets.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I would have done this sooner.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was just he just said some really beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>things and it just it just really got me even

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<v Speaker 3>more excited about starting a family.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, what do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think is you're like it's just from a guy's perspective

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<v Speaker 1>something that you like, you're you're scared about fatherhood.

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<v Speaker 2>Like scared about Yeah, oh interesting. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I don't know if I'm really scared. Honestly, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I'm really nervous.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm pretty like pretty like ready pretty excited. Let

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<v Speaker 3>me rephrase that, let me phrase that. Actually I just

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<v Speaker 3>reality just said it.

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<v Speaker 2>I okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So as an uncle of a Bazilian nieces and nephew,

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<v Speaker 3>I am a bit I'm chasing them around, worried about

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<v Speaker 3>every corner and every danger, and my sisters was like, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>if they're gonna fall, they're gonna fall.

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<v Speaker 2>They get like what what I was like, They got

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<v Speaker 2>to be protected. So it's, uh, I'm nervous about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that that's just because I'm not around

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<v Speaker 3>it enough to understand that there is fragility. But there

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<v Speaker 3>was also the learning curve of a child having to

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<v Speaker 3>just experience life, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really important. Yeah, So I think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna be a nervous wreck for the first at least.

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<v Speaker 3>However long, I'm sure I'm gonna be just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>freaking out about every you know, danger, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm still a helicopter. I'm a psych I'm a psychopath.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm my oldest is seven and we have another baby

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<v Speaker 1>do in June, and I'm a psychopath. I'm forever like

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<v Speaker 1>here's your helmets and here's your pads, yep, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the other where I'm like, I at

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<v Speaker 1>first would like take, you know, put the little padding

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<v Speaker 1>around the corners of the island, and then afterwards I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like listen. That's you're going to hit your head if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. You know, you hate to be aware of

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<v Speaker 1>now what your surroundings are. So I take them off.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like at times even their day, Jase went

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<v Speaker 1>to put his head unerneath table, so I put my

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<v Speaker 1>hand right above where it's so like he doesn't hit.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's like he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>note that like yeah, yeah, yeah. He had just gotten

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<v Speaker 1>back from his surgery and he was like all out

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<v Speaker 1>of like, you know, poor guy. And so he gets

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<v Speaker 1>up and he hits his he hits the front of

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<v Speaker 1>his head on the thing, and then goes to the

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<v Speaker 1>counter and hits I'm like, oh my god, like and

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<v Speaker 1>so it was just like the head of all things.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a pinball of like going from like

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like then I just wrapped him up in

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<v Speaker 1>like a little cocoon. But they need, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they they will learn too, like yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think part of it too, is just

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<v Speaker 3>because I was such an accident from kid. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I was always getting hurt and you know, jumping off

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<v Speaker 3>things and knocking my teeth out and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just all all sorts of problems. So I think I

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<v Speaker 3>just knowing my child, I'm sure we'll have that type

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<v Speaker 3>of energy, and so I just have to sort of

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<v Speaker 3>look out for a lookout for her because I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like you'll be a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I like that. That's cute. You have nothing to announce.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, you just seem so intue.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he did this last time to us too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, but I think that's cool. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine. He's what he has to announce. This is tour,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the that's the that's you're a busy guy. You're yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going to be judging and then doing your show. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So you should be scared of not seeing your baby.

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<v Speaker 1>That should be what you're afraid of.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that will be. That's That's why I'm packing it

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<v Speaker 2>all in now smart. I mean, we're getting it. We're

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<v Speaker 2>getting it all in now. We're traveling, we're doing all

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<v Speaker 2>these things.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh yeah, So it's gonna be really really busy fall,

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<v Speaker 3>but super super exciting. You know, Season thirty two of

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<v Speaker 3>Dancing the Stars is happening, and you know, and at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time and be going on tour to fifty

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<v Speaker 3>six city Uh, so it's gonna be crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been on Scorn four years, so I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 3>To finally go out there, get on the bus, go

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<v Speaker 3>in to people's cities, see their see their faces, see

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<v Speaker 3>them person, give them hugs, the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it's it's Uh. We have a live band,

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<v Speaker 2>we have the most incredible dancers.

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<v Speaker 3>We're actually having a whole a big audition this Friday

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<v Speaker 3>actually with all these hundreds of dances coming in and uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm putting a lot of a lot of heart and

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<v Speaker 3>soul and love into this show. And and of course

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<v Speaker 3>my fiance Haley, she's gonna be on the road with me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I saw her on the on the fire and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, I love that, Like I love

0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that you guys are doing this together because it's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there's going to be some really romantic dances in

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<v Speaker 1>there too, and just like I don't know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love a husband, wife duo.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gonna beautiful, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason why I'm calling it Symphony of Dance

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:56.160
<v Speaker 3>is you know, for me, it's well, for a symphony

0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:59.239
<v Speaker 3>is basically a collaboration, right, It's where every people come

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 3>together and it's like everybody's great at their individual gifts,

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 3>their individual instruments or their talents, whatever it might be

0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 3>in life or music or dance, whatever it is. When

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:10.920
<v Speaker 3>we come together, we really do create this beautiful symphony.

0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.399
<v Speaker 3>And that's what the show really represents, is it's such

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<v Speaker 3>an eclectic you know, different genres of music and styles

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:22.679
<v Speaker 3>of dance and and you know, and just just people.

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:25.439
<v Speaker 3>And that's what it's all about. This is about building

0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:29.440
<v Speaker 3>this beautiful symphony of dance. So I'm very excited about it.

0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't click on the dates. Are you coming to

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:32.920
<v Speaker 1>us Nashville, Nashville.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, grand Ole Opry, We'll be there. We'll be there

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 3>grand Ole Opry. It's a great venue. I love performing there.

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 2>So it's a nationale always nash will always show up.

0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:47.159
<v Speaker 2>They always bring great energy. So I'm excited. I was

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 2>just in Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>Things were saying, hey, that was really fun. That was

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 1>a fun hang we have No.

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:56.560
<v Speaker 2>It was great. Well, listen to my sister.

0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 3>She's a real estate agent out there, and every time

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:00.920
<v Speaker 3>I go there, she's showing me how that She's like, hey,

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.280
<v Speaker 3>this this is available, Like you will want to come

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:06.000
<v Speaker 3>out here, and because my mom lives there now, my

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 3>other sister lives there now, So it's a we're slowly

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 3>all migrating to Nashville.

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Are you LA based?

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I am, Yeah, I live in Los Angeles.

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, most of LA has moved here, so we welcome you.

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Our entire neighborhood is pretty much LA. So it's wild, man,

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>it's nuts, but it's a great place, like when you

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>are ready to like settle down, have the family, Like

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.639
<v Speaker 1>this is such a good family town, as you know,

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 1>so it would be a good place to set up shop.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm curious, you know, you you put so much

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 1>of your real life into your dances. You know, I

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>remember just you know, over the years watching Dancing with

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the Stars and then also some of the dances that

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:49.360
<v Speaker 1>you've done with your sister and you know, childhood and upbringing.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a dance or a story in your life

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 1>that you haven't been able to put into dance yet

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:58.159
<v Speaker 1>because it's painful or hard, or or a dance that

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great question, you know. I think.

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<v Speaker 3>What's so great about what's so great about dance or

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 3>a performance, right is that you can create a performance

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 3>or create a piece that is very meaningful to you,

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 3>to me, to to to the person is creating it.

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:26.199
<v Speaker 3>But we don't necessarily have to share that it's about us,

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, or share that it's it's

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 3>it's our story perhaps because and so to answer your question, yes,

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:37.399
<v Speaker 3>there are certain things that even if I didn't want

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 3>to necessarily share, you know what I mean, with with everybody,

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 3>if I wanted to keep it personal. But but without

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 3>a doubt, have the freedom and the luxury of really

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 3>creating pieces that can be very cathartic and and beautiful

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 3>about past experiences or traumas or pains or aches. And

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 3>that's what's so beautiful about art, you know, is that

0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.119
<v Speaker 3>they are they are a part of who you are

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.560
<v Speaker 3>and you're But what's so healing and so beautiful about

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:04.360
<v Speaker 3>it is that when you share those types of things

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 3>too with other people, you realize you're, like, this is

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 3>my story, but it's also so many other people's stories.

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 3>You know, so many other people experience you know, you know,

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 3>heartbreak or or or loss, you know, and uh or

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 3>or just other other elements. I mean, you know, we

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 3>actually did a piece a couple of years ago, you

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 3>know about my parents'.

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:28.479
<v Speaker 2>Divorce, you know what I mean.

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 3>And it was you know, on television, and it's it

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 3>was one of those things where I felt a little

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 3>bit like do we do we do this?

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Do we talk? We like share this in this way?

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, and and.

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 3>But it was it was a beautiful piece. I think

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 3>that a lot of people sort of responded to that

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 3>and felt that way, felt good towards it. But so yeah,

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.160
<v Speaker 3>so so to answer your actual question, because I kind

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 3>of danced around a little bit, no pun and send it.

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, there's definitely some things that I would love

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 3>to create that I feel like could be incredibly cathartic

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 3>for you know, past experiences, I should say.

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, I love when people put their past

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>like and explain it because it is so helpful and

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it adds that like additional healing and

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>help for other people, Like I think obviously movement is

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>so healing. And then to be able to like when

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you guys talked about the divorce, I'm like, oh, yeah,

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>that is like how I felt in movement, And like

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>there's just the emotions that you guys bring in dance too,

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and like it's just all of it is so I mean,

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that's even when I had my brain there's stint on

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the Stars. It was like working through certain

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 1>things and I'm like, wow, this was so cathartic, Like

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:38.400
<v Speaker 1>this felt so good.

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So there was a video I did a couple

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 2>of years ago. I wrote a song. It was called

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 2>hold On, and it was basically about about suicide.

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 3>And you know, I wrote this video because I had experienced,

0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, something close to be you know, suicide when

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 3>I was fifteen.

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Years old and.

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.120
<v Speaker 3>Other people around me, and even having that those own

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 3>thoughts myself, you know, at a certain point, you know,

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 3>years ago, and I wrote this song and I created

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 3>this video, and so that was an experience where people

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 3>didn't necessarily necessarily know that about me personally, but it

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 3>was certainly was a way for me to sort of.

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Share that in a in an artistic way. And that

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 2>video was you know, really really powerful.

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 3>And then I ended up working with this young dancer

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 3>who I've known for a while, and he told me

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 3>his story about how his father, you know, died by suicide,

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 3>and we created this beautiful dance piece, this beautiful piece,

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 3>and he shared his story and it was so powerful

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 3>and you know, it's just just recently, obviously I've experienced

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 3>two more people close to me unfortunately that by suicide,

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 3>and it was just is something that, yeah, I go

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 3>back to that, that song or that video or that

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 3>it's that time when I created that as sort of

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 3>a moment to feel I don't know, like wanting to

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 3>reach out more, you know what I mean, and wanting

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 3>to sort of do more in that space because it's

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 3>just there's nothing more. There's nothing more painful than feeling

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 3>like you could have done something where you feel like

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 3>you want to do more for people. And that's that's

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 3>really truly, honestly my overall mission really, you know, when

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 3>people when I do do dance or perform or do

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 3>silly tiktoks or silly post or whatever, it is the

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 3>underlying sort of intention of almost everything I do is

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 3>really to be to serve.

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 2>It really is to serve people and.

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 3>To make somebody laugh, bring a little bit of joy,

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 3>or to implement something you know, inspiring or something that

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 3>can possibly move somebody and so possibly stir somebody in

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 3>a different direction if they seem to be going.

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Down a different paths. And and that's even what I

0:29:57.560 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 2>love about tour as well.

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Is like those meet and greets and those Q and a's,

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, I go above and beyond, above and beyond

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 3>you know what is actually on the paper of.

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, I get a picture or do this for me?

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 2>That is a true moment for me to like connect

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 2>actually connect with somebody there.

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 3>And the amount of questions I get a people's asking

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 3>things and I really try to show up for people

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 3>in those moments.

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 2>But sorry, I kind of went up on the TANGI no, no, no, no.

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>There's no tangents here. Well, I think the thing is

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>too is like you're saying, is that you never know

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>what someone's going through. I mean, I'm you know, I'm sure.

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the people you're referring to is twitch.

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>And I remember when I looked at my phone, I

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>was like what, Like I would have never in a

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>million I mean I literally screamed out what And it

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>was like because I'm like, how like the happiest, joyful, dancing, loving,

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like wow, Like that just so shows

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>that like you just have no idea and it's like

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>to really like dig deep and like have those meaningful

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>conversations whether it'll help in the end or not least

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 1>like to to like go that extra layer.

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, yeah, it just it just makes you just

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 3>at least when I when I heard that, my first

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 3>feeling was, you know, who can I.

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Who can I call right now that needs me? You

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Who? Who? Who have I not

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 2>spoken to in a while? Who can I just reach

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 2>out to right now just to think, you know, because it's.

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, I kind of feel like when I found

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 3>that out, I think it was just about a week

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 3>or two before that, I had this overwhelming feeling like

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 3>I needed to share something in this space, you know,

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 3>in that space of because it was during the winter

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 3>and that's like a big time for you know, mental

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 3>health and people are like going through a lot of

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 3>a lot of pain. And I was literally like had

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 3>this feeling like I need to like say something, I

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 3>need to post something, I need to like just share

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 3>something and just reach out. And and I can't remember

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 3>what it was, but I remember something happening and be

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 3>like and I just didn't do it, you know. I

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 3>was like I was like, oh, yeah, I'm doing this

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 3>Disney special and I just like I need to just

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 3>I need to focus on that. I just didn't do

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 3>that and then two weeks later that happened, and so

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 3>of course knowing that it's not your fault, but in

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 3>that moment, you do have that sense of.

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Like what if I would have just you know, could

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I have?

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 3>And and I know everybody goes through that, and of

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 3>course there's you know, it's it's nobody's fault, you know,

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 3>and those in those situations, but it does sort of

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 3>inspire you a little bit more to reach out, you know,

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 3>and to reach out to people you haven't spoken to,

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 3>and also to just squash things too, you know what

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Like when people are saying, oh, I have this,

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm not talking to so and so because

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 3>of this or that or whatever it is.

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like, guys, like, you know, we are on this

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 2>planet for the shortest amount of time. We really are.

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 3>This is such a fleeting moment and every single day

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 3>it truly is. Without getting too you know, you know,

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 3>preachy here, but it's such a gift. It really is

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 3>such a gift. I mean, like when you feel the

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 3>you're heart beating, you know, nobody get you know, you

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 3>didn't have to buy that, you didn't.

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Have to earn it. It was a gift.

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 3>It was given to us, you know, and so we

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 3>are just so gifted with this life and it's and

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 3>I just want, I really just want everybody to feel

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 3>that way. And I know it's not the case because

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 3>I've been in that dark place. I've been in a

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 3>really really tough place, and honestly, dance some music really

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 3>got me. And also, you know, doing work and going

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 3>to listening to things and reading things and all that

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 3>stuff really helped me.

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>And people say that, dude, you're the most positive, most energetic.

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I think it's because I'm the most

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 2>messed up, you know what I mean.

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Like I had to do a lot of work early

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 3>on to figure it all out, and I'm still still

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 3>We're still on the process, and it's still a beautiful

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 3>journey just discovering yourself. But on the way, the real

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 3>secret to living is giving, you know, and how we

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 3>give ourselves to other people, and how we serve and

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 3>how we show up for them, how we reach out

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 3>and and and for me, dancing and performing is a

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:08.320
<v Speaker 3>way I do that, on top of you know, hopefully

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 3>reaching out personally as well.

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>So I love that. I just think it's really inspiring

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>when people have a platform and use it to connect

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>with people, like using all avenues like listen, I'm married

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.800
<v Speaker 1>to a singer songwriter. I'm best friends with the singer songwriter.

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't do that, and I'm certainly not a dancer.

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>But when I watch people use like their unique avenues

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and those outlets that they have to just actually pour

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>back into people, that's like the I mean, that's literally

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.439
<v Speaker 1>what we're that's what you do on earth for Heaven's sake,

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, like we're here to connect, to not feel alone,

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 1>to give each other another minute, to hug each other,

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.800
<v Speaker 1>like we do the wind Down Tour, and it's so

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.240
<v Speaker 1>fun because we get to like actually hug and cry

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.720
<v Speaker 1>and like be with people and go heartbeat to heartbeat

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>and that matters so much. I'm just really thankful to

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 1>use your platform for that. Yeah, And I love the

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>fact too that you know that you say it's you know,

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>our our hearts are like our life is a gift, right,

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:17.879
<v Speaker 1>and so it's like that's why I'm on this movement,

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Like can't just everyone be happy and let's all help

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>each other and just love. And I'm like, there's no like,

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want hate in my heart for anybody. I

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>want to just like just love be well, like cause

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like it can any moment, this can change and

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>we you know, go home. Yeah, but yeah, you guys

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>as a Dancing with the Stars family, like even you

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>and Jana, I mean you, this has been a tough

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 1>week for y'all too.

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean I just knew him from a lovely judge

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>who I wanted to impress him more than anybody on

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 1>that panel, Like I loved all the other judges, but

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>like looking like I went back down a few things,

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>and I like when when Len gave me a compliment,

0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>it made my life. And as an observer, he just

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>had such a light about him. I can't imagine in

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 1>person what that feels like. I'm very sorry for your

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:08.280
<v Speaker 1>loss because I know that you have had spent years

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>with them.

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 3>I had the pleasure of knowing Land since I was

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 3>twelve years old, you know, when I lived in London,

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 3>and I remember him here just was always just he

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 3>had the gift of the gap.

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 2>He just always had the great just energy and so

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 2>funny and playful.

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 3>And then and then having the opportunity to work with

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 3>him on Dance with the Stars, and and then you

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:34.280
<v Speaker 3>said it, you know where we all seek his approval,

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, even if you weren't even

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 3>on the show, you know, I was just like, did

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 3>you like that? You know, you just always you just

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 3>he just had that like you just had that respect

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.800
<v Speaker 3>for him, and that he had that presence and he

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:52.839
<v Speaker 3>had that just that British gentleman about him. And its

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 3>just I feel incredibly emotional and sad about it, and

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 3>then at the same time, I feel so grateful that

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 3>the last season that we shared together, we.

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know, there was like this feeling

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 2>like this, you know, I knew.

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 3>This was gonna be his last season, but I also

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 3>was I had every moment I spent with him, I

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 3>really I really savored it. I really savored the moments

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 3>I spent with him, and really and we we were

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 3>playful with each other, and we had these one on

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 3>one conversations and he and that even before the day

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 3>the last day, I walked in my j's dressing room,

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 3>there's this giant picture of land. It was framed beautiful

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 3>gold frame, and it's a picture of him and and

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 3>I had this handwritten message from him, and it was

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 3>so beautiful, but also like inappropriate humor, like funny. It

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 3>was a hilarious thing he wrote as well, and then

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 3>signed by him, and he walked He's like, oh there,

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 3>I just thought, you know, this is my thing, and

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 3>I just thought, give it to you and and and

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 3>I was just so touched and moved by that, just

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:10.320
<v Speaker 3>thinking how our lives were so intertwined. And I don't know,

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 3>we knew he was, We knew he was, you know, unwell,

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 3>but we didn't certainly didn't know the extent. We had

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:21.439
<v Speaker 3>no idea the extent because this was a huge shock

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 3>to all of us. And and it's incredibly sad. We've

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 3>had countless tears and phone calls with colleagues and friends and.

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 2>And we're just.

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:34.239
<v Speaker 3>But it's but it's but a lot of it, though,

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 3>is most of it is just sharing how much we

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 3>just love the guy and how much how lucky we

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 3>are and how lucky we were to spend as much

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 3>time with him as we did. And yeah, it's it's

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 3>it's one of those things again. It's just there's been

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:53.320
<v Speaker 3>so much loss I feel like this year that it

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 3>just it just keeps hammering home the importance of just

0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 3>how fleeting this life is and how important it is

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 3>to really take advantage of it and to really love

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 3>it and to really connect with.

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 2>People, because that's really what it's all about at the

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 2>end of the day. And yeah, he's a special he's

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 2>a special man.

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, like you said, he's a true just

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 1>like classy gentleman. He has like a sparkle like that's

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>what it just And this is just a viewer's point

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>of view because I've never met him in real life,

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>but I just was like, just like a sweet sparkle

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:30.959
<v Speaker 1>about him, lovely. But yeah, I'm very sorry for your loss.

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>And you were honestly the first person I thought of

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>when that happened, So I was just like, oh, like,

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I just can't imagine because I know that you've known

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 1>him for so long. So is there a dance maybe

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>on the tour that you'll go, Okay, hey, Len, this

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 1>one's for you, you know.

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, I think that.

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:54.800
<v Speaker 1>H m hmm you cry, weak cry, that's how that

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 1>goes here.

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's all right, Yeah, no, it's good.

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>This is like the test of a life fully and

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 1>well lived, though, is to leave people that are a

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 1>lighte like you behind also feeling that you know.

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now, it's just it's uh, you know, I meanan

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 3>thinking back as there's this video that we did with

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Nastia Luken when I danced and then he did this

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 3>little package and it was he was saying, like, you know,

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I just wish that sometimes your body just starts to

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 3>kind of give up on you. But I just still

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 3>feel like that young old you know, Chap, you know,

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 3>that dancer, And and we did this, you know, sort

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 3>of a tribute to lend really and then he kind

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 3>of took over and he danced and and I just

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 3>can I just keep thinking back in some of these

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 3>these memories and these moments and just thinking just again,

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 3>just how fortunate, you know, we were to have have him,

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, for so long and on the show at least,

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 3>but he certainly went far too soon in life.

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 2>But uh, yeah, I don't know, I just love the guy.

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, they'll definitely be there'll definitely be some some

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 3>some moments of honoring him and tipping the hat to him,

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 3>without a doubt on tour. I think not only just

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 3>for us, but I think honestly for the audience. You know,

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 3>I think that a lot of the audience that will

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 3>come to.

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 2>The show will also they're they're they're also.

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 3>In a way mourning this guy that they've watched for

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 3>twenty years on TV, and there is you know, he's

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Len Goodman, He's the head judge. He's the guy that

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:28.840
<v Speaker 3>we all love, and I'll certainly want to want to

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 3>honor him and also to in a way celebrate him

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.399
<v Speaker 3>with the audience for a moment in the show without

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 3>a doubt.

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, Derek, thank you so much for coming on

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and just sharing your hearts with us and your words

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:48.479
<v Speaker 1>and your emotions and just like for just helping others

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 1>too through through what you do. And I know it's

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:56.399
<v Speaker 1>like when I look at if I were to post something,

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I stop myself and go, why don't want to

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 1>look dramatic or I'm looking for attention or like whether

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.840
<v Speaker 1>it's about like a you know, form or abuse or whatever.

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>But there is someone that needs it, that wants you

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>that that is listening, and you know, what you do

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>through your dance and your words like it is, it's important.

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 1>So thank you for sharing.

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you ladies for having me appreciate it.

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Everyone're going to be off. Symphony of Dance all new

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>national national tour begins September twenty twenty three. Tickets on

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 1>sale now at Derekcuff dot com. Will be there in

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 1>national Yeah I want.

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 3>It, like coming, yes, yes, okay, you will be there,

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay there and I shall we shall have a good we.

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Shall have a good time. Hug tight tight all right, perfect, bye, Derek,

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much.

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Thank bite.

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Such a sweet soul. But he was always he was.

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>He was the coolest, like on on my season. I mean,

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 1>he's Derek Cuff, Like I grew up watching Dancing with

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the Stars, and he was like one of them, you know.

0:42:56.920 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like for ages, Yeah, looks great and his

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 1>uh forever nineteen or something, the most beautiful, loveliest, kindest,

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:09.720
<v Speaker 1>and she's an amazing dancer too, like incredibly I envy dancers.

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:14.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh me too. Come on, Kramer, we've seen you. Yeah.

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I can point my toe to save my life. Do

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you want to see something? Try to teach me a five, six,

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:22.359
<v Speaker 1>seven eight? Oh yeah, Well I didn't count, so when

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 1>like I had someone that would count, and I'm like no, no, no, no, no,

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 1>no no no no, I don't know how to do that.

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I just memorize.

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 2>No, I was not.

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I wish I could have been like I was a

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>good figure skater. Cramer, you're far. I can't. Let me

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 1>just get this baby delivered and then we can, really

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>we can. I can show you my least amount of coordination,

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 1>but some people just have it. I married one. He's

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.440
<v Speaker 1>a dancer. I need to get Alan to dance with me.

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>It's one thing that does Alan dance. I have the

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>funniest video. I posted a snippet of it on Instagram

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 1>for like a little cute video that we did. But

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I've been trying to like cut and dancing

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>because he's like, I don't dance. But I'm like, every

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:06.840
<v Speaker 1>so often, like we're in the kitchen, I'll start to

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 1>like try and sway with him. He's like, what are

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:10.240
<v Speaker 1>you doing? Does he dance?

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:14.360
<v Speaker 1>No, there he sways listen, and so I kind of

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>caught him one time and then he's just like he

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 1>looked around and he's like, camera, dang it, listen if

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 1>usher comes on, your girl over here is not slowing down.

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 1>But to choreograph anything is not happening for me. Something

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Derek said too, and that made me think of my grandpa.

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've had this moment before. But

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>he was getting sick and I knew, you know, he

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>was just kind of starting his Alzheimer's. And so we

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 1>were playing. We liked to play cribbage together and so

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>he's the one who taught me, and so it was

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 1>it was like I knew he wasn't going to be

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>around the next year, and so when we were sitting

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 1>there playing, he wasn't playing like how Grandpa played, right,

0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>because he's the most competitive human being, Like that's where

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I get it from. But like he would kind of

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 1>like mess up on some of the pegs, but I

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 1>would just kind of like, you know, I would just

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:09.840
<v Speaker 1>watch like how, you know, he miscounted or how, and

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 1>so I just kind of, like my competitiveness, I let

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<v Speaker 1>it go. But it was just in that moment I

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>just sat there, we just I was like, Grandpa, let's

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:19.479
<v Speaker 1>let's not let's just we can just sit here. Yeah,

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 1>And it was like this silent and we kind of

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 1>looked at each other like this knowing that this is

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<v Speaker 1>our And I'll never forget that moment because I remember

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 1>sitting at the campfire seeing my grandpa sitting in the

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 1>like screened and porch and going, I need to go

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 1>sit with him, and it was the memory that I'll

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:39.240
<v Speaker 1>forever cherished because it was I it was an understanding

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>that he's not going to be here next fourth of

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:42.879
<v Speaker 1>July and he won't know, but and you just want

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 1>to bottle up all of it, like you can't touch

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:49.919
<v Speaker 1>enough and get enough stories. And yeah, like I wish

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I would have done that with my last grandpa. But

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I was fourteen years old, right, so I missed things.

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't go to the hospital to go see him

0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 1>because I was fourteen and wanting to be with my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>And like that is a regret I feel to this day,

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 1>like why didn't I go see my grandpa in the

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>hospital and said go to Lisa's house? And I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like what I would have given to like having

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>that time back with my other grandpa. I know I

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 1>had this the other day. My Grandma's been gone for

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:17.719
<v Speaker 1>eleven years now. She was my person. I only had

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>one grandparent my whole life, and she I just I

0:46:22.760 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 1>asked a million questions. I was alone with her the

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 1>last night she was awake. I flew in and I

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 1>spent the night with her, straight to hospice and like,

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 1>but you know, like there's just like time goes on

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh, I wish I could have like

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 1>mm hmmmmmm, yeah, like different questions, like I want different

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 1>answers I want like I have different questions I want

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 1>to ask and I need her for certain things. And yeah,

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot like my first dance when I go

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:53.719
<v Speaker 1>up to Heaven will be with my grandpa at the

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:56.799
<v Speaker 1>uh so he would take me. We'd go to these

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>German festivals and like he'd wear later hos and my

0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 1>dad being in the band. That's the most Michigan with

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:05.360
<v Speaker 1>October Fast. So I was like, I don't want to

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 1>dance now, like that's my first thing I'm gonna do.

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 1>And I got to dance them. They kind of have

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 1>that dance. But that's a maturity thing too. We can't

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:14.280
<v Speaker 1>be hard on ourselves. I mean, I thought at thirty

0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I had asked all the questions I needed to ask.

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 1>But there's a couple of phrases that have just come

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:22.320
<v Speaker 1>back to me recently that she said that have for

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>some reason, I hadn't thought of them and forever, it

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 1>feels like, and just recently she used to say, it's

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 1>not a decision to be made in a day about things.

0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 1>So in my slow my slow down of the post

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:39.759
<v Speaker 1>grief and all the losses and all the things like

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I've really just been like not a decision to be

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 1>made in a day, just slowing down and seeing things differently.

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 1>But it's crazy how they come back to you, and

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 1>those words come back too.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>On that note, that's it's good. I mean, Cramer, it's

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 1>good Church.

0:47:58.080 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Love you guys.

0:47:58.520 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 1>We'll see you next week.

0:47:59.440 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Bye.

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<v Speaker 3>Seven