Speaker 1: Hey, this is Ryan Fitzpatrick and you are listening to
Speaker 1: the e A Podcast with Eric Allen. Take it away, alright, Chad.
Speaker 1: The Jets had a tremendous effort against the New England Patriots.
Speaker 1: Did a lot of things right, but ultimately they fell late,
Speaker 1: uh crushing twenty two to seventeen decision, because they took
Speaker 1: that lead, had a fourth quarter advantage, but just couldn't
Speaker 1: hang on. What do you think about the overall effort
Speaker 1: by this team after it's by Well, I thought the
Speaker 1: effort Eric was fair. I'm not gonna buy into the
Speaker 1: notion that it was a winning effort um because the
Speaker 1: Jets didn't win, But I don't think it was a
Speaker 1: losing effort by no stretch of imagination. And there were
Speaker 1: some good football players out there. But I do think
Speaker 1: it was a lost opportunity to be the Patriots team
Speaker 1: that was sleep walking through most of the game, that
Speaker 1: was obviously wounded at the quarterback position as well as
Speaker 1: a tight end position, and it was a lost opportunity
Speaker 1: that the Jets could have capitalized on. And I just
Speaker 1: never believe in moral victories, but um, there were certainly
Speaker 1: some good football plays out there, winning football plays out
Speaker 1: there and in the end, they didn't make enough of
Speaker 1: them to win the game. Why didn't they win? Obviously,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things that happened over the
Speaker 1: course of sixty minutes, and people point to turnovers and
Speaker 1: this and that, but why, point blank, why didn't they went? Uh?
Speaker 1: The Jets weren't opportunistic. Um, they played good football, they
Speaker 1: just weren't opportunistic. Meaning when the scores tend to zero
Speaker 1: and you have a big pass play to midfield, you
Speaker 1: can't have a fumble that woke up a sleeping dog
Speaker 1: and they should let that sleeping dogs lie and continue
Speaker 1: to beat them down. And they did. And so that
Speaker 1: was one play that was that should have been a
Speaker 1: great momentum builder for the Jets offense, that turned into
Speaker 1: a momentum builder for New England. Um. I also thought that,
Speaker 1: you know, there are other times that the Jets could
Speaker 1: have drove the dagger in a little bit more, uh
Speaker 1: and really put this game away and didn't see that opportunity.
Speaker 1: And when you don't see those opportunities against Tom Brady, uh,
Speaker 1: he will eventually beat you. And that's what happened. And
Speaker 1: so um, They're just they just weren't opportunistic enough. There
Speaker 1: were good plays made, uh touchdown scored, a good individual
Speaker 1: plays made there. There was some energy and excitement, but
Speaker 1: all in all, not enough to beat the top team
Speaker 1: in the an FC. What was your take on Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's performance? He gets the night after missing the previous
Speaker 1: game with that spring knee, and a lot of fans
Speaker 1: are clamoring for Bryce Petty right now. Ty Bowl stuck
Speaker 1: to his guns. He said, I'm gonna play whoever gives
Speaker 1: me the best chance to win. It goes back to
Speaker 1: fits uh fits at a pair of touchdown passes in
Speaker 1: that ball game, the one turnover late. What did you
Speaker 1: make of his game? Well, we'll talk about two issues first.
Speaker 1: First of all, was talking about Ryan's performance. I thought
Speaker 1: wine Ryan's performance was um a winning performance for most
Speaker 1: ball games, but not a not enough for a team
Speaker 1: like the Patriots. Um. When you are able to hold
Speaker 1: the Patriots to essentially seven team points before the last
Speaker 1: drive and then twenty two points total, you have as
Speaker 1: an offense have to find a way to capitalize on
Speaker 1: that and see that as your opportunity. Hey, we don't
Speaker 1: have to score this game thirty this game to win.
Speaker 1: We we just need to you know, at first we
Speaker 1: just need to score seventeen and then have a drive
Speaker 1: to keep them off the field, or once they get
Speaker 1: to twenty two, now you've got a chance to drive
Speaker 1: down the field to score and win the football game.
Speaker 1: So there was it was an efficient performance, one of
Speaker 1: his better performances, and if it was against another team,
Speaker 1: it would have been a Jets win, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: because it was the Patriots. So now the second issue
Speaker 1: is this um. In my opinion, you don't just play
Speaker 1: players just to play them, just to see what they have.
Speaker 1: And right now, it is obvious that the um discrepancy
Speaker 1: between Ryan Fitzpatrick and Bryce Petty is really large. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a huge difference there and how the offense operates
Speaker 1: with Ryan in the game versus Bryce in the game.
Speaker 1: And that's only uh, from one game of watching Bryce play,
Speaker 1: but you can just tell and I would would imagine
Speaker 1: that that's what the coaching staff feels as well. And so, uh,
Speaker 1: it's funny that we talked about, well, we need to,
Speaker 1: you know, give players a chance to develop. But the
Speaker 1: problem is is that down the road, those losses still
Speaker 1: count on that team and that coach in particular, there's
Speaker 1: no hall pass given when a coach in George six law,
Speaker 1: this is because he was trying to play a young
Speaker 1: player and developed, and then when it's time to evaluate,
Speaker 1: they don't look at those things. They do, and fans
Speaker 1: do even more so. You know, as a coach and
Speaker 1: a staff, you're trying to win games, period in the
Speaker 1: story and development comes second. You said the gap is wide,
Speaker 1: and we I was at both games. But from a
Speaker 1: quarterbacks perspective, what can you tell as far as the
Speaker 1: way that offense operates between maybe a guy that's starting
Speaker 1: out like Bryce and is making his first career start
Speaker 1: and then a guy like Fitzpatrick has been with Shane
Speaker 1: Gailey for five years. He's been with these guys his
Speaker 1: teammates for two years here with the Jets, and like
Speaker 1: you mentioned last week, it's not like he hasn't had
Speaker 1: success in this offense. There anty want touchdown pass. His
Speaker 1: last season, the Jets set a franchise record in terms
Speaker 1: of total yards. But just from game the game, what
Speaker 1: did you see from a quarterbacks perspective the difference uh
Speaker 1: with the guy at the controls, efficiency, inconsistency and so
Speaker 1: for instance, first of all, as far as efficiencies concerned. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, with Bryce the in the game that he
Speaker 1: did play, and I'm sure this happens in practice as well.
Speaker 1: The easy ones aren't hit enough, where with Ryan the
Speaker 1: easy ones are always hit most of the time. And
Speaker 1: then the NFL, you have to hit hit the easy ones,
Speaker 1: the ones that are gimmes. You gotta make them. You
Speaker 1: gotta make those layups because if you don't, it just
Speaker 1: makes your job as an offense even more difficult. Then, Um,
Speaker 1: the fifty fifties are being made more consistently as well,
Speaker 1: and the tougher throws and the tougher reads and those
Speaker 1: things are being made more consistently as well. So you're
Speaker 1: looking at an offense that's just more efficient, that has
Speaker 1: the opportunity to be more competitive, to put more points
Speaker 1: on the board. All those things come into play. Whereas
Speaker 1: with the younger quarterback right now, that's not happening because
Speaker 1: if if the staff felt like that that could happen,
Speaker 1: or that they had seen enough evidence in practice for
Speaker 1: that to happen, they would have made the switch. If
Speaker 1: it was even close at all, I think the staff
Speaker 1: would have made the switch. It makes complete sense. But
Speaker 1: when it's not closed, you can't just do that. You
Speaker 1: just don't do it just for the sake of doing it.
Speaker 1: You know what I think is being lost, Uh during
Speaker 1: this whole quarterback talk, Uh, as we continue to go forward,
Speaker 1: is something you mentioned last week and that stuck with
Speaker 1: me was that it's not just the evaluation of the quarterback,
Speaker 1: it's the evaluation of everybody on that field. And this
Speaker 1: is not a knock on price, but as to say,
Speaker 1: if you put them in the lineup and you got
Speaker 1: some young guys out there, whether it be a Robby
Speaker 1: Anderson or a Quincy of Noon, while well, I still
Speaker 1: consider young. I know it's a third year and in
Speaker 1: a file he's considered a second year player as far
Speaker 1: as accredited seasons are concerned. But if you limit the
Speaker 1: playbook or narrow the playbook, then you might be limiting
Speaker 1: the evaluations of those players as well. Right, there's no
Speaker 1: question about it. It all works hand in hand. And um,
Speaker 1: if you have one player that is limiting what you're
Speaker 1: doing offensively, and obviously that is the quarterback position, because
Speaker 1: everyone else can adapt, then you limit the evaluation of
Speaker 1: the other players as well. And this notion that the
Speaker 1: only way you can evaluate is through game experience is false.
Speaker 1: There's so much evaluation going on during practice and during
Speaker 1: those meetings and finding out how a guy thinks and
Speaker 1: what I thought process is and how is he getting
Speaker 1: better and then watching that translate into practice. You you
Speaker 1: don't just use the game model to see if someone's improved. Now,
Speaker 1: why the fans want to see the game model because
Speaker 1: that's the only thing that they see that that's the
Speaker 1: only thing that broadcasters see. The journalistic they don't necessarily
Speaker 1: see the improvements in practice, so that's why they call
Speaker 1: for it. But from a coaching standpoint, you can see improvement.
Speaker 1: The game is just the icing on the cake. The
Speaker 1: true improvement comes throughout the week, week by week, practice
Speaker 1: by practice, meeting by meeting. What is quincy and Doon
Speaker 1: was ceiling? We see him on games like Sunday where
Speaker 1: he gets singled off. We got some Malcolm Butler and
Speaker 1: makes that beautiful catch down the field in the first half,
Speaker 1: and he makes those explosion plays and you see the
Speaker 1: energy it creates, not only on the sideline but inside
Speaker 1: the stadium. He's kind of a he's kind of a
Speaker 1: player that has that kind of chemistry, got a fire
Speaker 1: attached to him, and you mentioned Calvin prior last year
Speaker 1: with the defense when the defense got in the groove,
Speaker 1: I feel that way with a noon when he's involved,
Speaker 1: I feel like the offense is different. And then we
Speaker 1: saw that fantastic touchdown catch by Q in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter where the Jets got their final points and took
Speaker 1: that lead in the fourth But that, you know, do
Speaker 1: you see that those kind of qualities and what kind
Speaker 1: of ceiling does this guy have? Well, I think first
Speaker 1: of all, he's made tremendous improvement and he is a
Speaker 1: guy that three years. I use that three to five
Speaker 1: year window because it's true, and I know nobody wants
Speaker 1: to talk about it and people want to not believe it,
Speaker 1: but the three to five year window for most players,
Speaker 1: that third year is just the year where the light
Speaker 1: bulb comes on um and things start to click um.
Speaker 1: And it's not three years for everybody, but that that's
Speaker 1: kind of a sweet spot. That's the wheelhouse for players
Speaker 1: developing to be able to see that hard work in
Speaker 1: that progression come to fruition on the field. And for him,
Speaker 1: he has really maximized his opportunity. With the importunate injury
Speaker 1: to Decker. Now the Jets have gotten better because they
Speaker 1: know now going into next year with those three receivers,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're feeling really really good about what they
Speaker 1: have on the perimeter and and that's been really good
Speaker 1: to see. And so he brings a physicality, he brings
Speaker 1: a competitive edge. Uh, he brings a little bit of
Speaker 1: vinegar to the situation. You've got to have that as
Speaker 1: a as a quarterback, that word vinegar means you gotta
Speaker 1: have a little bit nasty. You gotta have a little
Speaker 1: bit competitive juice in you. You've got to be willing
Speaker 1: to fight in the scrap and claw. He has that,
Speaker 1: and you love to see that in a receiver because
Speaker 1: that means those balls that you throw as a quarterback,
Speaker 1: most of the time, they're going to be for you.
Speaker 1: Because of his nature and his ability and uh and
Speaker 1: willingness to compete. Part Scott mentioned a Kwan bull when
Speaker 1: watching a neone One see some similarities there. I know,
Speaker 1: all it's early, and I know you probably don't want
Speaker 1: to put too many comparisons and a guy so early
Speaker 1: in his career, and Bolden has been a tremendous productive
Speaker 1: player for some time now, but just the physical characteristics
Speaker 1: and the way he goes about his business well exactly.
Speaker 1: I see similarities in his physicality and his body style.
Speaker 1: I see differences in Quincy's faster, much faster than an
Speaker 1: kloon Bolden. But an Quan has a better knack of
Speaker 1: how to get open and that comes with experience and
Speaker 1: things like that, so he could have that type of production.
Speaker 1: I do agree with that. And if you get that
Speaker 1: type of production, you should be feeling really good as
Speaker 1: a jetman knowing that you've got a young receiver that
Speaker 1: can give you an Kuombolden type production, because that's that's
Speaker 1: pretty special. Jets fans are so eager to get the
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen and there's still five games remaining. But
Speaker 1: you mentioned Decker before. You gotta be excited about the
Speaker 1: wide receiver group here that Mike mcagnan and Todd Bowles
Speaker 1: have assembled. Because Decker was here before they came, but
Speaker 1: they traded for Marshall. Uh. They've helped with the development
Speaker 1: of Quincy and Noon While and then they brought in
Speaker 1: these three young guys. Robbie Anderson continues to flash he
Speaker 1: made the mistake. I asked Brandon Marshall about it. He said,
Speaker 1: ball security is job security. Yours in mind, I think
Speaker 1: Robbie will learn from that. And his locker is right
Speaker 1: next to they forementioned Brandon Marshall, and then they had
Speaker 1: a couple of other young guys like Jalen Marshall and
Speaker 1: Tehron Peak. So you know, and when everybody's thinking about
Speaker 1: the future, you gotta look at the wide receiver position
Speaker 1: offensively and say, okay, we should be in pretty good
Speaker 1: shape here. Absolutely, I think you feel really good. That's
Speaker 1: probably the one area where going to the off season
Speaker 1: there's not much to be done there. I think just
Speaker 1: in visual improvement and really focusing on as a group
Speaker 1: how they improve. But as far as new faces, I
Speaker 1: don't think there's much to be done there at all.
Speaker 1: They should feel really good about that group. And and
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, let's let's be honest here.
Speaker 1: And of course this this conversation is for most of
Speaker 1: the teams in the NFL, but we get so enamored
Speaker 1: with the records that we feel like because the team
Speaker 1: is three and eight, they are so far off. The
Speaker 1: Jets aren't far off at all. Uh. If you look
Speaker 1: at the game, I can pick three games Bengals, Patriots
Speaker 1: and Dolphins. You put those in the win column, you're
Speaker 1: six and five, you're in the playoffs, unt, you're Buffalo,
Speaker 1: and right now, to me, there's no difference between Buffalo
Speaker 1: Miami and New York nothing at all other than Buffalo
Speaker 1: Miami have won those tight games the Jets have not.
Speaker 1: That's that's the bottom line. So moving into the off
Speaker 1: season or even looking at development of players right now,
Speaker 1: you're trying to to me development is developing. It's if
Speaker 1: you if you ever been on hold when you call
Speaker 1: the New York Jets office, what do you hear Tom
Speaker 1: Bowls talk about? What makes you strong? Adversity? That's what
Speaker 1: you It's what you uh hear him talk about, whether
Speaker 1: it be him as an individual, this organization and history
Speaker 1: of it. It's about how do you handle adversity? Well,
Speaker 1: right now, this team's got a lot of adversity. But
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you just blow it up. What that
Speaker 1: means is you, these players and this staff have to
Speaker 1: learn how to fight through this adversity, get better through
Speaker 1: this diversity, to make them better for next year. And
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean to play musical chairs at quarterback or
Speaker 1: musical chairs in any position, or you blow it up
Speaker 1: and go find three new players that doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: at all. It means you learn how to fight through
Speaker 1: this adversity together. So the next year when this happened,
Speaker 1: you're on the winning side, not the losing side. Can
Speaker 1: you explain, uh, what you would say to a Jet
Speaker 1: Fanneal came up to you right now said, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: you know I'm a Jet fan. This season is over.
Speaker 1: I want to high draft pick. I want you to
Speaker 1: explain why these five games are so important. Because you
Speaker 1: can't carry over wins from year to year. But we
Speaker 1: think about this Jets Patriots game and the Jets weren't
Speaker 1: able to finish. Don't you have to create that culture
Speaker 1: even though you don't bring wins over next September. But
Speaker 1: if you win a couple of these down the stretch,
Speaker 1: and maybe you have to make some critical plays in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, maybe I have a comeback or two
Speaker 1: along the way, a lot of these guys are gonna
Speaker 1: be here next year. There is a roster change, personnel people,
Speaker 1: UH will make changes here and there, and there's every
Speaker 1: roster changes in the National Football League. But can you
Speaker 1: explain about the culture of winning and how it's never
Speaker 1: too late or too early to create that Because some
Speaker 1: of that can carry over, can it? Because if you're
Speaker 1: in a huddle with somebody and you lead a late
Speaker 1: game charge in week fourteen this year, or you make
Speaker 1: an interception in week fifteen, then that's got to help
Speaker 1: your confidence going into two thousand seventeen that Hey, we've
Speaker 1: been here before, so can you can you talk about
Speaker 1: that a little bit? Absolutely? As a fan and I'm
Speaker 1: a fan as well, we are so programmed to be
Speaker 1: instantly gratified, and we use this game as entertainment. Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: as a coach and a player, and as an owner
Speaker 1: and an employee of an organization, this isn't just entertainment.
Speaker 1: This is an instant gratification. This is about creating consistency, efficiency,
Speaker 1: and longevity. That's what it's about. A culture doesn't and
Speaker 1: changing a culture and creating a culture doesn't happen in
Speaker 1: a week a month. It doesn't even happen in a year.
Speaker 1: It takes years and numerous experiences and highs and lows
Speaker 1: to create the type of culture that you want to
Speaker 1: create longevity and to be the organization that fans want
Speaker 1: the organization to be. That takes time, and through that
Speaker 1: turnover of players, coaches, employees does not create the culture
Speaker 1: that you're looking for at all. All turnover to me
Speaker 1: does is say that as a decision maker, I'm a
Speaker 1: poor decision maker, because if I'm turning into over all
Speaker 1: the time, I'm not making the decisions before the decision
Speaker 1: and we're just we're playing musical chairs and it's whatever
Speaker 1: the flavor of the month is. That doesn't create a
Speaker 1: winning product, That doesn't create a winning program. All that
Speaker 1: creates is flashes in the pan. And I would hope
Speaker 1: as Jet fans, you're not looking for just to flash
Speaker 1: in the pan. You're looking to get out of this
Speaker 1: mindset of just being good every once in a while
Speaker 1: and at least competing and having a product out there
Speaker 1: that you can be proud of year in and year out,
Speaker 1: regardless if you make the playoffs every year. But if
Speaker 1: you're competing for the playoffs and you're in it, and
Speaker 1: when you're not in it, you're right there knocking on
Speaker 1: the door, then you can be proud of that. But
Speaker 1: when you're up and down like a roller coaster, that's
Speaker 1: nothing to be proud of. And so that's why you're
Speaker 1: trying to create the right culture and and the right
Speaker 1: program for what you're trying to get accomplished. So I
Speaker 1: like this matchup coming up Monday night. I think that
Speaker 1: if the Jet spray the same energy, the same spirit,
Speaker 1: the same emotion, they tighten up a couple of things.
Speaker 1: I think this is the perfect opponent for them. With
Speaker 1: that being said, before I ask you about the Colts,
Speaker 1: I just want to real quickly your thoughts on the
Speaker 1: defense of effort overall. Any time your whole brady to
Speaker 1: four or fourteen on third down and two or five
Speaker 1: inside the red zone, you gotta be happy. Conversely, you're
Speaker 1: not happy because you didn't come up with the late
Speaker 1: stop and you didn't have any takeaways. It was a
Speaker 1: winning effort, Eric, It really was. To me as an
Speaker 1: offensive minded guy, uh in which I think defensively a
Speaker 1: lot of times it was a winning defensive effort. If
Speaker 1: I would like to see something a little bit different,
Speaker 1: you would like to see a turn up created um.
Speaker 1: And besides that, you would like to see every once
Speaker 1: a while on those gotta have it plays, those down
Speaker 1: to the nitty gritty plays that have to be made,
Speaker 1: you'd like to see some of those be made. To
Speaker 1: flip the switch, to flip the momentum. You look at
Speaker 1: New England. They did nothing defensively. Uh that really stuck
Speaker 1: out except you know, the one big play to me
Speaker 1: was that was a huge win. But learn knocks the ball.
Speaker 1: He physically and literally punches the ball out of Robby
Speaker 1: Anderson's hands. That's just a heavy football play knowing that
Speaker 1: your team needs a spark. That's the only thing I
Speaker 1: can I can see right now as far as playing
Speaker 1: good overall tough defense. Don't once you're supposed to do
Speaker 1: grading out well. Yeah, they're all they all should be
Speaker 1: grading out relatively well. But see here, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Here's the difference. Sometimes grading out well doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: you put in a winning performer, because every once in
Speaker 1: a while, a great play has to be made to win. Secondly,
Speaker 1: I think this team, when you get in a situation
Speaker 1: like this where you're three and a you know you're
Speaker 1: not making the playoffs, he goes beyond the game of football.
Speaker 1: It just comes down man to man and how much
Speaker 1: pride you have and what you do as a professional
Speaker 1: football player, and how much how how much accountability you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to each other to step up as men,
Speaker 1: not as football players, as men and be it conable
Speaker 1: and find a way to win and fight and scrap
Speaker 1: and call. And there's a difference between When I was
Speaker 1: at the Jets, I trained with Teddy Atlas for a
Speaker 1: year and one thing Teddy taught me mentally was that
Speaker 1: there's a difference between fighting to survive and fighting to win.
Speaker 1: Fighting to survive, you're just playing, You're putting in a
Speaker 1: good effort, But are you really making those conscious choices
Speaker 1: step back in the fight and truly try to win
Speaker 1: the game, or are you just satisfied with being patted
Speaker 1: on the back for a good effort. There's a difference,
Speaker 1: and that's where this team is right now, And as individuals,
Speaker 1: you've got to make a decision. I just fight to
Speaker 1: survive every Sunday and get patted on the back because
Speaker 1: I graded out well and had a good effort, or
Speaker 1: do I really fight to win and make those when
Speaker 1: he played to win a game, and that that's a
Speaker 1: huge difference. Do you ever read Teddy Atlas's book? I
Speaker 1: haven't read it him full No, but I had a
Speaker 1: full year of him, so I know exactly what that book.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Teddy Atlas on believable intensity and just
Speaker 1: using his hands to a great boxing trainer. And we
Speaker 1: know he worked with Mike Tyson way back in the
Speaker 1: day Cat's Skills and then UH trained Michael Moore actually
Speaker 1: who became heavyweight champion as well, and recently he's been
Speaker 1: doing some work with Tim Bradley as well. So, um,
Speaker 1: this guy when he trained you, did you ever feel
Speaker 1: him just throwing the fists a little bit around because
Speaker 1: he's not the biggest guy. But wow, I would not
Speaker 1: want to get hit by Teddy Ellis, Oh my god. Well,
Speaker 1: we sparred to work on footwork, and footwork in the
Speaker 1: ring can be similar to footwork in the pocket, where
Speaker 1: you're learning you're so aware of your movements that you're
Speaker 1: moving away from one issue but making sure you're not
Speaker 1: moving into another issue. And and that's that's literally centimeters
Speaker 1: and inches as far as how much you move not
Speaker 1: to get hit or get tackled, but don't move into
Speaker 1: another area and be able to remain a pastor. And
Speaker 1: and I do remember getting hit by Teddy and it
Speaker 1: was always when I would get hit by him is
Speaker 1: because I dropped my guard or I lost a little
Speaker 1: bit of concentration and he'd fight me upside the head
Speaker 1: because I'm not I'm not truly focused in and making
Speaker 1: that conscious choice. I'm letting myself and my human nature
Speaker 1: slide a little bit and just give in, just a
Speaker 1: little bit. And it was a great experience for me,
Speaker 1: and I loved every minute. Oh God, I love his intensity,
Speaker 1: his passion. He's a tremendous teacher. And while he's got
Speaker 1: some great stories as well. Uh. Quickly, college football, right now,
Speaker 1: we got Alabama's one Ohio States to Clemson's three, and
Speaker 1: Washington is four. Uh is Alabama and this no matter
Speaker 1: what happens against Florida. I went to the University of Florida,
Speaker 1: having my graduate degree from there. I don't think the
Speaker 1: getters stand too much of a chance this weekend. But
Speaker 1: even if they won, is the Alabama in the final four?
Speaker 1: I think so? I don't think you drop them out
Speaker 1: of the final four. I think for the committee, uh,
Speaker 1: they are hoping, praying and wishing that all of those
Speaker 1: conference uh those conference leaders in that top four win
Speaker 1: their conference championship. And I think so. I think I
Speaker 1: think so too. You're right, so Ohio State, are they
Speaker 1: safely and into it seems that way there in there
Speaker 1: in and and so this is this is the issue
Speaker 1: you have with only four team playoffs, but you're always
Speaker 1: going to have those issues with who is you know,
Speaker 1: who's that last team getting in. It's just that with
Speaker 1: a four team playoffs, it means much more than the
Speaker 1: six team team playoffs because the six team team probably
Speaker 1: won't win the championship, but the fourth place team guarantee
Speaker 1: they can win the championship, and so uh, you know
Speaker 1: that That's why it makes it so intriguing but also
Speaker 1: so emotional and intense because you're only talking about four
Speaker 1: teams and really there's not that much difference. I'm really
Speaker 1: interested in seeing how Alabama performs against these other teams because,
Speaker 1: let's face it, SEC is not the SEC this year.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the top ten and you've
Speaker 1: got four Big ten teams in the top ten other
Speaker 1: than Alabama. Your next your next team is sitting at
Speaker 1: fifteen as far as the SEC is concerned. So uh,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be interesting. You know, we think that
Speaker 1: the SEC teams go through such an uh, you know,
Speaker 1: a hard schedule, but I'm not so sure that's the case.
Speaker 1: And so it's gonna be interesting to see how this
Speaker 1: plays out as far as Alabama and whether or not
Speaker 1: they can make these other teams look like the SEC
Speaker 1: this year, which they just run through the SEC. You're right,
Speaker 1: spot SEC has been over value this year because Alabama's
Speaker 1: is so much better than everybody else, And we don't know.
Speaker 1: If Alabama is so much better than everybody else in
Speaker 1: college football, they will be the overwhelming favorite once the
Speaker 1: semifinals begin. Um, Clemson, Ohio State, I mean Clemson, Washington.
Speaker 1: Excuse me? So you have Clemson and if they beat
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, you think they're solidly There is there any
Speaker 1: way that Washington wins over Colorado in the Pac twelve
Speaker 1: the Pack championship, and wins the conference, but somebody jumps
Speaker 1: them right now? The committee chair said that Washington and
Speaker 1: Michigan are very close. But how I'm thinking about it
Speaker 1: this way, Chad, How does a Michigan team that doesn't
Speaker 1: play this week, that will have not won its conference,
Speaker 1: that have that has lost two or three games, how
Speaker 1: would they jump Washington? Even if Washington plays a close
Speaker 1: game and beats Colorado. I don't think a team that
Speaker 1: doesn't play can jump any team that plays and wins.
Speaker 1: There's no way that you can put value on that. Us.
Speaker 1: You have one, you have another loss, so that makes
Speaker 1: no sense at all. Now the question becomes, if Washington loses,
Speaker 1: then who is that two lost team, Uh that that
Speaker 1: makes the playoffs? Is at Michigan, is at Washington? Is
Speaker 1: it Penn State or Wisconsin. That's the question because what's
Speaker 1: hard to to decipher, especially in the Big Ten, is
Speaker 1: that Michigan beat those teams. Ohio State did not beat
Speaker 1: Penn State, but it's just a one loss team. So uh,
Speaker 1: that's you know, you've got a conference champion, but you
Speaker 1: have a comference champion who lost to Michigan. So that's
Speaker 1: gonna be uh the biggest question. If Washington loses, I
Speaker 1: don't think they're in because their schedule, strength of schedule,
Speaker 1: and their conference doesn't match up to the Big Ten.
Speaker 1: So it comes down to Michigan versus the Big Ten champion.
Speaker 1: Who do you put in that fourth spot? Um, if
Speaker 1: Limps in Alabama win, Penn's Day would have to win
Speaker 1: big right for for them to jump of Michigan. I
Speaker 1: don't think they could win like game over Wisconsin and
Speaker 1: jump of Michigan. And even if Wisconsin wins, I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for the committee to overlook the
Speaker 1: fact that Michigan dominated them head to head. So I
Speaker 1: don't know. If Washington loses, Chat, I think Michigan might
Speaker 1: might be in good shape. They could be, but I
Speaker 1: just think that, let's face it, it would be really
Speaker 1: hard because they look at all those criteria and then
Speaker 1: they look at Okay Conference champion. Well, that means something.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not Penn State's fault that Michigan lost
Speaker 1: to Iowa. Michigan did lose to Iowa, and they did
Speaker 1: lose to Ohio State, and they did not win their conference.
Speaker 1: I just think they're the odd man out. If if
Speaker 1: Washington loses, I think you should take the winter between
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and pen stake and you don't have the Big
Speaker 1: twelve involved in any of us. Correct. Correct? So you
Speaker 1: got thirty seconds, three keys to victory, Jets over the Colts,
Speaker 1: Uh turnovers, Big Place. I'll just give you two turnovers
Speaker 1: and big Place. Chat enjoyed it. We'll see you next week,
Speaker 1: all right. Half a difference