1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Ryan Fitzpatrick and you are listening to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: the e A Podcast with Eric Allen. Take it away, alright, Chad. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: The Jets had a tremendous effort against the New England Patriots. 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: Did a lot of things right, but ultimately they fell late, 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: uh crushing twenty two to seventeen decision, because they took 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: that lead, had a fourth quarter advantage, but just couldn't 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: hang on. What do you think about the overall effort 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: by this team after it's by Well, I thought the 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: effort Eric was fair. I'm not gonna buy into the 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: notion that it was a winning effort um because the 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: Jets didn't win, But I don't think it was a 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: losing effort by no stretch of imagination. And there were 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: some good football players out there. But I do think 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: it was a lost opportunity to be the Patriots team 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: that was sleep walking through most of the game, that 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: was obviously wounded at the quarterback position as well as 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: a tight end position, and it was a lost opportunity 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: that the Jets could have capitalized on. And I just 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: never believe in moral victories, but um, there were certainly 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: some good football plays out there, winning football plays out 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: there and in the end, they didn't make enough of 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: them to win the game. Why didn't they win? Obviously, 23 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: there are a lot of things that happened over the 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: course of sixty minutes, and people point to turnovers and 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: this and that, but why, point blank, why didn't they went? Uh? 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: The Jets weren't opportunistic. Um, they played good football, they 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: just weren't opportunistic. Meaning when the scores tend to zero 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: and you have a big pass play to midfield, you 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: can't have a fumble that woke up a sleeping dog 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: and they should let that sleeping dogs lie and continue 31 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: to beat them down. And they did. And so that 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: was one play that was that should have been a 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: great momentum builder for the Jets offense, that turned into 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: a momentum builder for New England. Um. I also thought that, 35 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, there are other times that the Jets could 36 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: have drove the dagger in a little bit more, uh 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: and really put this game away and didn't see that opportunity. 38 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: And when you don't see those opportunities against Tom Brady, uh, 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: he will eventually beat you. And that's what happened. And 40 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: so um, They're just they just weren't opportunistic enough. There 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: were good plays made, uh touchdown scored, a good individual 42 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: plays made there. There was some energy and excitement, but 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: all in all, not enough to beat the top team 44 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: in the an FC. What was your take on Ryan 45 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's performance? He gets the night after missing the previous 46 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: game with that spring knee, and a lot of fans 47 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: are clamoring for Bryce Petty right now. Ty Bowl stuck 48 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: to his guns. He said, I'm gonna play whoever gives 49 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: me the best chance to win. It goes back to 50 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: fits uh fits at a pair of touchdown passes in 51 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: that ball game, the one turnover late. What did you 52 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: make of his game? Well, we'll talk about two issues first. 53 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: First of all, was talking about Ryan's performance. I thought 54 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: wine Ryan's performance was um a winning performance for most 55 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: ball games, but not a not enough for a team 56 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: like the Patriots. Um. When you are able to hold 57 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots to essentially seven team points before the last 58 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: drive and then twenty two points total, you have as 59 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: an offense have to find a way to capitalize on 60 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: that and see that as your opportunity. Hey, we don't 61 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: have to score this game thirty this game to win. 62 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: We we just need to you know, at first we 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: just need to score seventeen and then have a drive 64 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: to keep them off the field, or once they get 65 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: to twenty two, now you've got a chance to drive 66 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: down the field to score and win the football game. 67 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: So there was it was an efficient performance, one of 68 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: his better performances, and if it was against another team, 69 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: it would have been a Jets win, but it wasn't 70 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: because it was the Patriots. So now the second issue 71 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: is this um. In my opinion, you don't just play 72 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: players just to play them, just to see what they have. 73 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: And right now, it is obvious that the um discrepancy 74 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 1: between Ryan Fitzpatrick and Bryce Petty is really large. Uh, 75 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: there's a huge difference there and how the offense operates 76 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: with Ryan in the game versus Bryce in the game. 77 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: And that's only uh, from one game of watching Bryce play, 78 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: but you can just tell and I would would imagine 79 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: that that's what the coaching staff feels as well. And so, uh, 80 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: it's funny that we talked about, well, we need to, 81 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: you know, give players a chance to develop. But the 82 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: problem is is that down the road, those losses still 83 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 1: count on that team and that coach in particular, there's 84 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: no hall pass given when a coach in George six law, 85 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: this is because he was trying to play a young 86 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: player and developed, and then when it's time to evaluate, 87 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: they don't look at those things. They do, and fans 88 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: do even more so. You know, as a coach and 89 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: a staff, you're trying to win games, period in the 90 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: story and development comes second. You said the gap is wide, 91 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: and we I was at both games. But from a 92 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: quarterbacks perspective, what can you tell as far as the 93 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: way that offense operates between maybe a guy that's starting 94 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: out like Bryce and is making his first career start 95 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: and then a guy like Fitzpatrick has been with Shane 96 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: Gailey for five years. He's been with these guys his 97 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: teammates for two years here with the Jets, and like 98 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: you mentioned last week, it's not like he hasn't had 99 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: success in this offense. There anty want touchdown pass. His 100 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: last season, the Jets set a franchise record in terms 101 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: of total yards. But just from game the game, what 102 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: did you see from a quarterbacks perspective the difference uh 103 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: with the guy at the controls, efficiency, inconsistency and so 104 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: for instance, first of all, as far as efficiencies concerned. Um, 105 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, with Bryce the in the game that he 106 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: did play, and I'm sure this happens in practice as well. 107 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: The easy ones aren't hit enough, where with Ryan the 108 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: easy ones are always hit most of the time. And 109 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: then the NFL, you have to hit hit the easy ones, 110 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: the ones that are gimmes. You gotta make them. You 111 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: gotta make those layups because if you don't, it just 112 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: makes your job as an offense even more difficult. Then, Um, 113 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: the fifty fifties are being made more consistently as well, 114 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: and the tougher throws and the tougher reads and those 115 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: things are being made more consistently as well. So you're 116 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: looking at an offense that's just more efficient, that has 117 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: the opportunity to be more competitive, to put more points 118 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: on the board. All those things come into play. Whereas 119 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: with the younger quarterback right now, that's not happening because 120 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: if if the staff felt like that that could happen, 121 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: or that they had seen enough evidence in practice for 122 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: that to happen, they would have made the switch. If 123 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: it was even close at all, I think the staff 124 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: would have made the switch. It makes complete sense. But 125 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: when it's not closed, you can't just do that. You 126 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: just don't do it just for the sake of doing it. 127 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: You know what I think is being lost, Uh during 128 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: this whole quarterback talk, Uh, as we continue to go forward, 129 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: is something you mentioned last week and that stuck with 130 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: me was that it's not just the evaluation of the quarterback, 131 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: it's the evaluation of everybody on that field. And this 132 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: is not a knock on price, but as to say, 133 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: if you put them in the lineup and you got 134 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: some young guys out there, whether it be a Robby 135 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: Anderson or a Quincy of Noon, while well, I still 136 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: consider young. I know it's a third year and in 137 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: a file he's considered a second year player as far 138 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: as accredited seasons are concerned. But if you limit the 139 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: playbook or narrow the playbook, then you might be limiting 140 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: the evaluations of those players as well. Right, there's no 141 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: question about it. It all works hand in hand. And um, 142 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: if you have one player that is limiting what you're 143 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: doing offensively, and obviously that is the quarterback position, because 144 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: everyone else can adapt, then you limit the evaluation of 145 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: the other players as well. And this notion that the 146 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: only way you can evaluate is through game experience is false. 147 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: There's so much evaluation going on during practice and during 148 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: those meetings and finding out how a guy thinks and 149 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: what I thought process is and how is he getting 150 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: better and then watching that translate into practice. You you 151 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: don't just use the game model to see if someone's improved. Now, 152 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: why the fans want to see the game model because 153 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: that's the only thing that they see that that's the 154 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: only thing that broadcasters see. The journalistic they don't necessarily 155 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: see the improvements in practice, so that's why they call 156 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,359 Speaker 1: for it. But from a coaching standpoint, you can see improvement. 157 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: The game is just the icing on the cake. The 158 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: true improvement comes throughout the week, week by week, practice 159 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: by practice, meeting by meeting. What is quincy and Doon 160 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: was ceiling? We see him on games like Sunday where 161 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: he gets singled off. We got some Malcolm Butler and 162 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: makes that beautiful catch down the field in the first half, 163 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: and he makes those explosion plays and you see the 164 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: energy it creates, not only on the sideline but inside 165 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: the stadium. He's kind of a he's kind of a 166 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: player that has that kind of chemistry, got a fire 167 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: attached to him, and you mentioned Calvin prior last year 168 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: with the defense when the defense got in the groove, 169 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: I feel that way with a noon when he's involved, 170 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: I feel like the offense is different. And then we 171 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: saw that fantastic touchdown catch by Q in the fourth 172 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: quarter where the Jets got their final points and took 173 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: that lead in the fourth But that, you know, do 174 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: you see that those kind of qualities and what kind 175 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: of ceiling does this guy have? Well, I think first 176 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: of all, he's made tremendous improvement and he is a 177 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: guy that three years. I use that three to five 178 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: year window because it's true, and I know nobody wants 179 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: to talk about it and people want to not believe it, 180 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: but the three to five year window for most players, 181 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: that third year is just the year where the light 182 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: bulb comes on um and things start to click um. 183 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: And it's not three years for everybody, but that that's 184 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: kind of a sweet spot. That's the wheelhouse for players 185 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: developing to be able to see that hard work in 186 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: that progression come to fruition on the field. And for him, 187 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: he has really maximized his opportunity. With the importunate injury 188 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: to Decker. Now the Jets have gotten better because they 189 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: know now going into next year with those three receivers, 190 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they're feeling really really good about what they 191 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: have on the perimeter and and that's been really good 192 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,119 Speaker 1: to see. And so he brings a physicality, he brings 193 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: a competitive edge. Uh, he brings a little bit of 194 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: vinegar to the situation. You've got to have that as 195 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: a as a quarterback, that word vinegar means you gotta 196 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: have a little bit nasty. You gotta have a little 197 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: bit competitive juice in you. You've got to be willing 198 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: to fight in the scrap and claw. He has that, 199 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: and you love to see that in a receiver because 200 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: that means those balls that you throw as a quarterback, 201 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: most of the time, they're going to be for you. 202 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: Because of his nature and his ability and uh and 203 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: willingness to compete. Part Scott mentioned a Kwan bull when 204 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: watching a neone One see some similarities there. I know, 205 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: all it's early, and I know you probably don't want 206 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: to put too many comparisons and a guy so early 207 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: in his career, and Bolden has been a tremendous productive 208 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: player for some time now, but just the physical characteristics 209 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: and the way he goes about his business well exactly. 210 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: I see similarities in his physicality and his body style. 211 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: I see differences in Quincy's faster, much faster than an 212 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: kloon Bolden. But an Quan has a better knack of 213 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: how to get open and that comes with experience and 214 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: things like that, so he could have that type of production. 215 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: I do agree with that. And if you get that 216 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: type of production, you should be feeling really good as 217 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: a jetman knowing that you've got a young receiver that 218 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: can give you an Kuombolden type production, because that's that's 219 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: pretty special. Jets fans are so eager to get the 220 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen and there's still five games remaining. But 221 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: you mentioned Decker before. You gotta be excited about the 222 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver group here that Mike mcagnan and Todd Bowles 223 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: have assembled. Because Decker was here before they came, but 224 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: they traded for Marshall. Uh. They've helped with the development 225 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: of Quincy and Noon While and then they brought in 226 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: these three young guys. Robbie Anderson continues to flash he 227 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: made the mistake. I asked Brandon Marshall about it. He said, 228 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: ball security is job security. Yours in mind, I think 229 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: Robbie will learn from that. And his locker is right 230 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: next to they forementioned Brandon Marshall, and then they had 231 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: a couple of other young guys like Jalen Marshall and 232 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: Tehron Peak. So you know, and when everybody's thinking about 233 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: the future, you gotta look at the wide receiver position 234 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: offensively and say, okay, we should be in pretty good 235 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: shape here. Absolutely, I think you feel really good. That's 236 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: probably the one area where going to the off season 237 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: there's not much to be done there. I think just 238 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: in visual improvement and really focusing on as a group 239 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: how they improve. But as far as new faces, I 240 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: don't think there's much to be done there at all. 241 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: They should feel really good about that group. And and 242 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, let's let's be honest here. 243 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: And of course this this conversation is for most of 244 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: the teams in the NFL, but we get so enamored 245 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: with the records that we feel like because the team 246 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: is three and eight, they are so far off. The 247 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: Jets aren't far off at all. Uh. If you look 248 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: at the game, I can pick three games Bengals, Patriots 249 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: and Dolphins. You put those in the win column, you're 250 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: six and five, you're in the playoffs, unt, you're Buffalo, 251 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: and right now, to me, there's no difference between Buffalo 252 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: Miami and New York nothing at all other than Buffalo 253 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: Miami have won those tight games the Jets have not. 254 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: That's that's the bottom line. So moving into the off 255 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: season or even looking at development of players right now, 256 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: you're trying to to me development is developing. It's if 257 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: you if you ever been on hold when you call 258 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: the New York Jets office, what do you hear Tom 259 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: Bowls talk about? What makes you strong? Adversity? That's what 260 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: you It's what you uh hear him talk about, whether 261 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: it be him as an individual, this organization and history 262 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: of it. It's about how do you handle adversity? Well, 263 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: right now, this team's got a lot of adversity. But 264 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you just blow it up. What that 265 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: means is you, these players and this staff have to 266 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: learn how to fight through this adversity, get better through 267 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: this diversity, to make them better for next year. And 268 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean to play musical chairs at quarterback or 269 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: musical chairs in any position, or you blow it up 270 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: and go find three new players that doesn't mean that 271 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: at all. It means you learn how to fight through 272 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: this adversity together. So the next year when this happened, 273 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: you're on the winning side, not the losing side. Can 274 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: you explain, uh, what you would say to a Jet 275 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: Fanneal came up to you right now said, hey, listen, 276 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: you know I'm a Jet fan. This season is over. 277 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: I want to high draft pick. I want you to 278 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: explain why these five games are so important. Because you 279 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: can't carry over wins from year to year. But we 280 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: think about this Jets Patriots game and the Jets weren't 281 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: able to finish. Don't you have to create that culture 282 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: even though you don't bring wins over next September. But 283 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: if you win a couple of these down the stretch, 284 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: and maybe you have to make some critical plays in 285 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, maybe I have a comeback or two 286 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: along the way, a lot of these guys are gonna 287 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: be here next year. There is a roster change, personnel people, 288 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: UH will make changes here and there, and there's every 289 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: roster changes in the National Football League. But can you 290 00:16:53,480 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: explain about the culture of winning and how it's never 291 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: too late or too early to create that Because some 292 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: of that can carry over, can it? Because if you're 293 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: in a huddle with somebody and you lead a late 294 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: game charge in week fourteen this year, or you make 295 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: an interception in week fifteen, then that's got to help 296 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: your confidence going into two thousand seventeen that Hey, we've 297 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: been here before, so can you can you talk about 298 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: that a little bit? Absolutely? As a fan and I'm 299 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: a fan as well, we are so programmed to be 300 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: instantly gratified, and we use this game as entertainment. Okay, Now, 301 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: as a coach and a player, and as an owner 302 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: and an employee of an organization, this isn't just entertainment. 303 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: This is an instant gratification. This is about creating consistency, efficiency, 304 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: and longevity. That's what it's about. A culture doesn't and 305 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: changing a culture and creating a culture doesn't happen in 306 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: a week a month. It doesn't even happen in a year. 307 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: It takes years and numerous experiences and highs and lows 308 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: to create the type of culture that you want to 309 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: create longevity and to be the organization that fans want 310 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: the organization to be. That takes time, and through that 311 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: turnover of players, coaches, employees does not create the culture 312 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: that you're looking for at all. All turnover to me 313 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: does is say that as a decision maker, I'm a 314 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: poor decision maker, because if I'm turning into over all 315 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: the time, I'm not making the decisions before the decision 316 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: and we're just we're playing musical chairs and it's whatever 317 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: the flavor of the month is. That doesn't create a 318 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: winning product, That doesn't create a winning program. All that 319 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: creates is flashes in the pan. And I would hope 320 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: as Jet fans, you're not looking for just to flash 321 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: in the pan. You're looking to get out of this 322 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: mindset of just being good every once in a while 323 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: and at least competing and having a product out there 324 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: that you can be proud of year in and year out, 325 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: regardless if you make the playoffs every year. But if 326 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: you're competing for the playoffs and you're in it, and 327 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: when you're not in it, you're right there knocking on 328 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: the door, then you can be proud of that. But 329 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: when you're up and down like a roller coaster, that's 330 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: nothing to be proud of. And so that's why you're 331 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: trying to create the right culture and and the right 332 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: program for what you're trying to get accomplished. So I 333 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: like this matchup coming up Monday night. I think that 334 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: if the Jet spray the same energy, the same spirit, 335 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: the same emotion, they tighten up a couple of things. 336 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: I think this is the perfect opponent for them. With 337 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: that being said, before I ask you about the Colts, 338 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: I just want to real quickly your thoughts on the 339 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: defense of effort overall. Any time your whole brady to 340 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: four or fourteen on third down and two or five 341 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: inside the red zone, you gotta be happy. Conversely, you're 342 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: not happy because you didn't come up with the late 343 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: stop and you didn't have any takeaways. It was a 344 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: winning effort, Eric, It really was. To me as an 345 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: offensive minded guy, uh in which I think defensively a 346 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: lot of times it was a winning defensive effort. If 347 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: I would like to see something a little bit different, 348 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: you would like to see a turn up created um. 349 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: And besides that, you would like to see every once 350 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: a while on those gotta have it plays, those down 351 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: to the nitty gritty plays that have to be made, 352 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: you'd like to see some of those be made. To 353 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: flip the switch, to flip the momentum. You look at 354 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: New England. They did nothing defensively. Uh that really stuck 355 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: out except you know, the one big play to me 356 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: was that was a huge win. But learn knocks the ball. 357 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: He physically and literally punches the ball out of Robby 358 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: Anderson's hands. That's just a heavy football play knowing that 359 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: your team needs a spark. That's the only thing I 360 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: can I can see right now as far as playing 361 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: good overall tough defense. Don't once you're supposed to do 362 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: grading out well. Yeah, they're all they all should be 363 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: grading out relatively well. But see here, here's the thing. 364 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: Here's the difference. Sometimes grading out well doesn't mean that 365 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: you put in a winning performer, because every once in 366 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: a while, a great play has to be made to win. Secondly, 367 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: I think this team, when you get in a situation 368 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 1: like this where you're three and a you know you're 369 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: not making the playoffs, he goes beyond the game of football. 370 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: It just comes down man to man and how much 371 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: pride you have and what you do as a professional 372 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: football player, and how much how how much accountability you're 373 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to each other to step up as men, 374 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: not as football players, as men and be it conable 375 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: and find a way to win and fight and scrap 376 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: and call. And there's a difference between When I was 377 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: at the Jets, I trained with Teddy Atlas for a 378 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: year and one thing Teddy taught me mentally was that 379 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: there's a difference between fighting to survive and fighting to win. 380 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: Fighting to survive, you're just playing, You're putting in a 381 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: good effort, But are you really making those conscious choices 382 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: step back in the fight and truly try to win 383 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 1: the game, or are you just satisfied with being patted 384 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: on the back for a good effort. There's a difference, 385 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: and that's where this team is right now, And as individuals, 386 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: you've got to make a decision. I just fight to 387 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: survive every Sunday and get patted on the back because 388 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: I graded out well and had a good effort, or 389 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: do I really fight to win and make those when 390 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: he played to win a game, and that that's a 391 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: huge difference. Do you ever read Teddy Atlas's book? I 392 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: haven't read it him full No, but I had a 393 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: full year of him, so I know exactly what that book. 394 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Teddy Atlas on believable intensity and just 395 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: using his hands to a great boxing trainer. And we 396 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: know he worked with Mike Tyson way back in the 397 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: day Cat's Skills and then UH trained Michael Moore actually 398 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: who became heavyweight champion as well, and recently he's been 399 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: doing some work with Tim Bradley as well. So, um, 400 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: this guy when he trained you, did you ever feel 401 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: him just throwing the fists a little bit around because 402 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: he's not the biggest guy. But wow, I would not 403 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: want to get hit by Teddy Ellis, Oh my god. Well, 404 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: we sparred to work on footwork, and footwork in the 405 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: ring can be similar to footwork in the pocket, where 406 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: you're learning you're so aware of your movements that you're 407 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: moving away from one issue but making sure you're not 408 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: moving into another issue. And and that's that's literally centimeters 409 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: and inches as far as how much you move not 410 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: to get hit or get tackled, but don't move into 411 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: another area and be able to remain a pastor. And 412 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: and I do remember getting hit by Teddy and it 413 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: was always when I would get hit by him is 414 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: because I dropped my guard or I lost a little 415 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: bit of concentration and he'd fight me upside the head 416 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: because I'm not I'm not truly focused in and making 417 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: that conscious choice. I'm letting myself and my human nature 418 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: slide a little bit and just give in, just a 419 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: little bit. And it was a great experience for me, 420 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: and I loved every minute. Oh God, I love his intensity, 421 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: his passion. He's a tremendous teacher. And while he's got 422 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: some great stories as well. Uh. Quickly, college football, right now, 423 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: we got Alabama's one Ohio States to Clemson's three, and 424 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: Washington is four. Uh is Alabama and this no matter 425 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: what happens against Florida. I went to the University of Florida, 426 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: having my graduate degree from there. I don't think the 427 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: getters stand too much of a chance this weekend. But 428 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: even if they won, is the Alabama in the final four? 429 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: I think so? I don't think you drop them out 430 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: of the final four. I think for the committee, uh, 431 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: they are hoping, praying and wishing that all of those 432 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: conference uh those conference leaders in that top four win 433 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: their conference championship. And I think so. I think I 434 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: think so too. You're right, so Ohio State, are they 435 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: safely and into it seems that way there in there 436 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: in and and so this is this is the issue 437 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: you have with only four team playoffs, but you're always 438 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: going to have those issues with who is you know, 439 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: who's that last team getting in. It's just that with 440 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: a four team playoffs, it means much more than the 441 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: six team team playoffs because the six team team probably 442 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: won't win the championship, but the fourth place team guarantee 443 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: they can win the championship, and so uh, you know 444 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: that That's why it makes it so intriguing but also 445 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: so emotional and intense because you're only talking about four 446 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: teams and really there's not that much difference. I'm really 447 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: interested in seeing how Alabama performs against these other teams because, 448 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: let's face it, SEC is not the SEC this year. 449 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the top ten and you've 450 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: got four Big ten teams in the top ten other 451 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: than Alabama. Your next your next team is sitting at 452 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: fifteen as far as the SEC is concerned. So uh, 453 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be interesting. You know, we think that 454 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: the SEC teams go through such an uh, you know, 455 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: a hard schedule, but I'm not so sure that's the case. 456 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: And so it's gonna be interesting to see how this 457 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: plays out as far as Alabama and whether or not 458 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: they can make these other teams look like the SEC 459 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: this year, which they just run through the SEC. You're right, 460 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: spot SEC has been over value this year because Alabama's 461 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: is so much better than everybody else, And we don't know. 462 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: If Alabama is so much better than everybody else in 463 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: college football, they will be the overwhelming favorite once the 464 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: semifinals begin. Um, Clemson, Ohio State, I mean Clemson, Washington. 465 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: Excuse me? So you have Clemson and if they beat 466 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, you think they're solidly There is there any 467 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: way that Washington wins over Colorado in the Pac twelve 468 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: the Pack championship, and wins the conference, but somebody jumps 469 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: them right now? The committee chair said that Washington and 470 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: Michigan are very close. But how I'm thinking about it 471 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: this way, Chad, How does a Michigan team that doesn't 472 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: play this week, that will have not won its conference, 473 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: that have that has lost two or three games, how 474 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: would they jump Washington? Even if Washington plays a close 475 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: game and beats Colorado. I don't think a team that 476 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: doesn't play can jump any team that plays and wins. 477 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: There's no way that you can put value on that. Us. 478 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: You have one, you have another loss, so that makes 479 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: no sense at all. Now the question becomes, if Washington loses, 480 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: then who is that two lost team, Uh that that 481 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: makes the playoffs? Is at Michigan, is at Washington? Is 482 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: it Penn State or Wisconsin. That's the question because what's 483 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 1: hard to to decipher, especially in the Big Ten, is 484 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: that Michigan beat those teams. Ohio State did not beat 485 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: Penn State, but it's just a one loss team. So uh, 486 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: that's you know, you've got a conference champion, but you 487 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: have a comference champion who lost to Michigan. So that's 488 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: gonna be uh the biggest question. If Washington loses, I 489 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: don't think they're in because their schedule, strength of schedule, 490 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: and their conference doesn't match up to the Big Ten. 491 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: So it comes down to Michigan versus the Big Ten champion. 492 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: Who do you put in that fourth spot? Um, if 493 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: Limps in Alabama win, Penn's Day would have to win 494 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: big right for for them to jump of Michigan. I 495 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: don't think they could win like game over Wisconsin and 496 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: jump of Michigan. And even if Wisconsin wins, I think 497 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for the committee to overlook the 498 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: fact that Michigan dominated them head to head. So I 499 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: don't know. If Washington loses, Chat, I think Michigan might 500 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: might be in good shape. They could be, but I 501 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: just think that, let's face it, it would be really 502 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: hard because they look at all those criteria and then 503 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: they look at Okay Conference champion. Well, that means something. 504 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not Penn State's fault that Michigan lost 505 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: to Iowa. Michigan did lose to Iowa, and they did 506 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: lose to Ohio State, and they did not win their conference. 507 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: I just think they're the odd man out. If if 508 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: Washington loses, I think you should take the winter between 509 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: Wisconsin and pen stake and you don't have the Big 510 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: twelve involved in any of us. Correct. Correct? So you 511 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: got thirty seconds, three keys to victory, Jets over the Colts, 512 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: Uh turnovers, Big Place. I'll just give you two turnovers 513 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: and big Place. Chat enjoyed it. We'll see you next week, 514 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: all right. Half a difference