1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class A production 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio, Happy Friday, Everybody. I'm Holly Fry 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: and I'm Tracy V. Wilson. We finally talked about Louis 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: de Geer this time did a little Overdoe. I feel yeah, 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: particularly considering how much he really has changed our world. 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: Would someone else have done that? Eventually, probably he gets 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: the credit. Um, there was so much I had no 8 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: idea about regarding his life story. Yeah, I knew nothing. 9 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I absolutely zero. It was so fun to 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: research him. I certainly did not know that he was 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: the party boy of Paris and seemed like the most 12 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: fun person to I would love to hang out with 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: that person. Um. I didn't really think about the fact 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: that he was living at the time when the French 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: Revolution began. I had not quite connected those dots. If 16 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: you had asked me, woken me from a dead sleep 17 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: and said, Holly, when was the gear alive, I'd be like, 18 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: right after the French Revolution started or something like later, 19 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: like a decade or two later. I just didn't Time 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: is more compressed than we think Historically, that happens all 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: the time, But this was one where I was like whoa. Yeah, 22 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: his parents really loved Louis the sixteenth and Rantoinette. That 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: is wild. Um, I marvel at his creativity, Yeah, marvel 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: at it. Literally, all the stuff about the diorama really 25 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: reminded me of when we were in Paris, and as 26 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: one of like our it was not it was not 27 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: what a thing that the group did. We had some 28 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: solo time in Paris, um, and I went to the 29 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: Van Go exhibition where the it's all projected up on 30 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: the walls and you feel like you're sort of inside 31 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: the painting, and so the descriptions of the diorama really 32 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: reminded me of that, And honestly that exhibition was one 33 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: of my very favorite things we did the whole time 34 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: we were in Paris. So I understand, I think, uh, 35 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 1: why people found it so appealing to Yeah, we um, 36 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: we did that exhibition when it was here in Atlanta. 37 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: Did you do the VR part of it? No, I 38 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: can't do VR. I wasn't sure. Um, that was my 39 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: favorite part of the whole thing. But I have a 40 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: rabid love of VR soum, and thankfully my body cooperates 41 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: with me in their mind does the opposite. Yes, I 42 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: recall being on some amusement park rides, so we're a 43 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: little troubling for it was very bad. I think there 44 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: was I remember being in Iceland. There's a whale museum 45 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: in Iceland, and I feel like there was a thing 46 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: where you could put the headset on and you could 47 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: look around and see whales, and I feel like that 48 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: went okay, But a lot of what you were looking 49 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: at was like empty ocean. You weren't surrounded by a 50 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, so it was not quite as there 51 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: wasn't quite as much disconnect, that tiny little disconnect between 52 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: what you're seeing and what how you're moving. Right, there's 53 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: also just that thing where it is. VR is a 54 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: lot like when you first put on a headset, unless 55 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: it is something very very placid, like huge vast piece 56 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: of ocean with whales, and even if it tracks pretty 57 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: perfectly in terms of movement to visualization, your brain is 58 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: still aware that like, okay, that looks far away, but 59 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: it's also right up against my face, like there's a 60 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: whole thing there that Sometimes I've never gotten um you know, 61 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: nauseated or dizzy from it. But I have those moments 62 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh, I almost feel a little like 63 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: I would like to sit down for this experience for 64 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: a minute. But I love it very much. Uh. Here 65 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: is my confession. I have been spelling de garottype wrong 66 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: for my entire life. My entire entire life. There's an 67 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: E in there that I have not been including in it. 68 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: It sure does exist. Well. I don't know how many 69 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: times in my life I've had to write out the 70 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: word garattype, but I had to write it at least 71 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: two times when sending an email to you, and both 72 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: times I had left out that E and couldn't figure 73 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: out what I had done wrong and just had to 74 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: write click on it and have Outlook tell me how 75 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: to fix. Yeah, I am. I'm oddly reassured that you 76 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: have had the same problem. It's just an extra vowel 77 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't seem like we need it. Yeah, I understand 78 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: that goes there. UM. One of the things that's also 79 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: very interesting in talking about the Gear, and particularly the 80 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: end when he was monetizing this invention, uh, is the 81 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: shifting way that he is characterized with regard to Nieps's 82 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: family and particularly his son, because some are like, well 83 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: to Gear just put his name on everything, and like 84 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: he ran the show in terms of making all the deals, 85 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 1: and others are like, yeah, but he didn't leave them out. 86 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: He still cut them a deal where they would make 87 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: money off of it forever at a time when their 88 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: family really needed the money. And I we have so 89 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: little information about his inner life and the way he 90 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: thought about things and the way he was processing that 91 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: it is all left up to interpretation. So it's very 92 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: fascinating to watch how different people perceive his behavior. Yeah. Well, 93 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: and I totally understand being hurt. That's something your father 94 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: worked on and then your father died, like was then 95 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: named after the other person with with no mention of 96 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: your father, Like, I get that totally. Um. But then 97 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: we talked about like multiple pieces of it that really 98 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: were to Gear's work. It seems like the two of 99 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: them were really necessary to have it happen. Yes, Like 100 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: I can see multiple sides to it, Yes, And I 101 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: think that is why, like you'll read different, different ones, 102 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: different you know, kind of characterizations from Louis de Gear. 103 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: There are only a few pictures of Louis de Gear 104 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: taken by other people. Will talk in that upcoming episode 105 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: about about portraiture and how that kind of came to be, 106 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: But it is very interesting. He looks like a sweet 107 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: little dude, because of course he was in his sixties 108 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: by the time those pictures are being taken in a 109 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: lot of cases late fifties, so um. But yeah, it's 110 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: a I really We always talk about what somebody who 111 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: invented a thing historically would think of the world today, 112 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: and I just can only imagine the VR level meltdown 113 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: he might have walking down the street and watching people 114 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: just take pictures of themselves cavalierly over and over, be like, 115 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: what is what's happening? Well? And and when I was 116 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: getting a Deguara type of him to send to you 117 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: in the email where I couldn't spell de garat type, 118 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: I got really confused because it you know that it 119 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: lists the subject, it also lists who took the picture. 120 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: And for some reason in my head it was definitely 121 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: going to be a self portrait. It did not because 122 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: I had not read our forthcoming episode yet we're going 123 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: to talk more about self portrait. I just sort of 124 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: assumed that the Garrett took a Degara type of himself. 125 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: At some point he seemed to have no interest in 126 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: taking his own picture, which is probably indicative of that 127 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: slight shyness that gets mentioned sometimes. Sure. Uh, and like 128 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't want to give the presentation. 129 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: I really believe he was like, oh my tummy and 130 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: ran away, like I don't. I have to suspect even 131 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: if he did feel unwell, I think it was probably 132 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: nervousness rather than than actually having some malady. But that's 133 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: again purely speculative. But I I really loved researching this 134 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: one because we just I invoke his name so often 135 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: in our work and outside of it, and yet I 136 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: didn't know very much about him, so it was pretty delightful. 137 00:08:53,480 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: We finally talked about history's most handsome photographer, Robert cornelie 138 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: Is this week. He's been on my list for a while. Yeah, 139 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: because that picture of him does pop up pretty frequently. 140 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: And again we said it in the episode, he doesn't 141 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: very handsome. Um, but I did not mention it in 142 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: the episode because I thought it would be funnier here. 143 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: There is another portrait that he took of himself that 144 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: you can find online. It's not nearly so handsome. It's 145 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: like he just kind of looks like I'm not I 146 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: don't want to judge anybody's appearance, but he's very striking 147 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: in the first one, and then the next one he 148 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: just kind of looks like a nice nerdy dude like dad. Well, 149 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: just for me personally, the first one is enhanced a 150 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: lot by having like a demeanor that really just does 151 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: seem like Mr Darcy comes out of the mist like that. 152 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: It is so Jane Austen evocative. It's not even funny. 153 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's it's from a little a 154 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: little later than she actually lived and wrote, but still, uh, 155 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: it really conveys that tone to me. Yes, I actually 156 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: had originally written of it in the outline is saying 157 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: it looks like something out of a Jane Austen novel. 158 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: And then I was like, I'm a little worried people 159 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: will think I'm saying that that was the same time, 160 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: and I didn't that. I didn't write a way around it. 161 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: And I just was like, like a romance novel for you, 162 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: that's great, that's great. Um, yeah, it's it's really interesting. 163 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: I also love how if you sift through papers of 164 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: the day talking about his studio, it seems like everyone 165 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: was so worried that it was scary to sit still 166 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: and have your picture taken. Because it is also very reassured, 167 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: like You're gonna be fine, It's fine, And I just 168 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: think of all of the things like that people do 169 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: in their day to day lives. Even then, that would 170 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 1: have been much more, i don't know, difficult, harrowing, stressful 171 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: than just sitting quietly for a few minutes. And I 172 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: say that as a prof senal wiggler, I cannot keep 173 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: still very long at all. But I don't think I 174 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: would have found it frightening, although it would have been 175 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: totally new. So maybe it's like when we were talking 176 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: about the snowflake pictures and and how sometimes he would 177 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: exhale and it would cause all of his work to melt. 178 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: It's the same kind of thing, like like if when 179 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: when I'm getting a mammogram and the text says stop breathing, 180 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: I immediately just want to breathe so bad. And if 181 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: I got to sit there in a portrait chair and 182 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: not move at all, I'm probably going to be like, now, 183 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: my nose itches the most it has ever itched in 184 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: my life. Oh yeah, that's definitely true. Although if I'm 185 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: in a situation where I have to um breathe a 186 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: little or as shallowly as possible, I have a whole 187 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: counting thing I do in my head that helps, But 188 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: I do initially have that old gracious everything itches. I'm somebody, 189 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: Oh no, I can't, Everything's gonna misfire. I think I 190 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: have restless leg syndrome. Right this get like I just 191 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: I understand completely. My workaround has been to learn to 192 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: count my breath on the inhalein exhale, which works great 193 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: for me. I really really love, obviously, because I have 194 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: talked about it a lot lately. Um, the art of photography, 195 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: and one thing that working on these two episodes kind 196 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: of in tandem made clear to me. And it's obvious, 197 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: but like how fundamentally important photography is to our everyday 198 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: lives in ways we don't even think about. Like everybody 199 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: likes to point out, like, oh, Robert Bernelia has invented 200 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: the selfie, and it's like yes, but like do you understand, 201 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: Like you're take moving pictures out of the equation, take 202 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: television out, take film out, et cetera. So much of 203 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: our lives is dependent on being able to take and 204 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: look at pictures, whether that's online, whether that is a 205 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: reference material in a book, whether that is you know, 206 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: if you want to buy a house, you usually want 207 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: to see pictures of it before you even step foot 208 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: in it. Like so much of what we do every 209 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: single day is about captured images. That I just had 210 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: that moment where I was kind of blown away by 211 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: the progression and then in a microcosmic sense, by how 212 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: quickly people started to innovate. Yeah, in eighteen thirty nine, 213 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: like in that one year where it was like, this 214 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: is our gift to the world that people weren't really 215 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: because I just improved it yesterday, like it was like 216 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: flipping a little card, and like a week later it 217 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: was a different thing entirely, um, which to me is 218 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: just mind blowing. I love it. I love it. Thank 219 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: you all of you photography people that developed all of 220 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: these processes, because I love photographs and I used them 221 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: all the time, right, I take pictures of recipes and 222 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: cookbooks so I can go to the store and have 223 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: the list of that having to write all of the 224 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: ingredients on a separate piece of paper. Simple stuff like that. 225 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: That is you know, at the heart traces all the 226 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: way back to to gear and people like Cornelius who 227 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: were hastening the way that all worked and the digital 228 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: age would blow their minds. As I've gotten older, sometimes 229 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: when I need to read tiny, tiny type on like 230 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: a medicine bottle or something, I'll take a picture of 231 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: it on my phone and zoom right in. Oh. Yes, 232 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: all the time, all the time. So I hope uhone 233 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: does not mind me waxing rhapsodic about how amazing all 234 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: of this is, because it's, like I said, it's part 235 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: of every single, every single day of my life. Certainly, 236 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are people that don't look at imagery 237 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: all the time. I think it might be difficult to 238 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: locate them, but I'm sure they're out there. But I 239 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: think for most of us the opposite is true. We're 240 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: always always engaged with the visual medium, and particularly photography. 241 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: Game changer did to gear have any idea. No, I 242 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: do not think he thought it was great and cool. 243 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know that he went to his grave going, 244 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: you know what, I changed the world? Doubt it. Doubt it. 245 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: With that in mind, we hope that you have a 246 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: fabulous weekend, whether you're trying to change the world or not. 247 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: If you have time off, I hope it is smooth 248 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: this silk, and that it is RESTful and fun. And 249 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: if you don't. I'm so sorry, but I hope everything 250 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: goes also smooth the silk and is maybe even fun, 251 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: and that everyone is a delight to you and no 252 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: one is a crab. We will be right back here 253 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: tomorrow with a classic, and then Monday there will be 254 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: a new episode and a new topic and we'll go 255 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: through all of this again. Stuff you missed in History 256 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: Class is a production of I heart Radio. For more 257 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: podcasts from I heart Radio, visit the i heart Radio app, 258 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.