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Speaker 2: So I think the interesting thing is like all the

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Speaker 2: Like that's how involved these guys were, like all thirty teams.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what are they waiting on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think you just want to make

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Speaker 5: The weeks as this new CBA is coming up. Do

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Speaker 2: Then only way teams can improve is to get out

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Speaker 3: Not gonna fly.

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Speaker 2: And now, since I'm wearing the broadcast hat with UAJ

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Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with this dragging on through January.

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Speaker 2: We got all the trades and free agents done in

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Speaker 4: All right, Jim, enough of the trades because they just

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Speaker 4: always seem to take forever. There was a free agent

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Speaker 4: sign that happened this past weekend and we've discussed for

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Speaker 4: does Polanco fit in on this team? I just don't

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Speaker 2: And I know what they said was primarily first base

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Speaker 2: Did they realize that Polanco's gonna be thirty three this

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 3: In decline, so you know, I'm just not sure I

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Speaker 2: They're getting older, and they're replacing an elite closer in

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Speaker 4: Okay, Jim, you answer my question. Is this David Sterns

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Speaker 4: David Sterns just trying Well, you just said he's trying

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I've said this before. Being a GM in Milwaukee

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Speaker 3: You want to go all young. You could pull it

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Speaker 2: And look, they have time to pivot. David Stearns can

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Speaker 3: He ran the Milwaukee Brewers. But it's hard to like what.

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Speaker 5: It because they're a big market. And you mentioned the

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think Bregman's a difference maker out look

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Speaker 2: for talent. He really doesn't. He just has great resources

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure I do.

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Speaker 3: Mentioned Adolis Garcia.

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Speaker 2: Look he's been in decline, but he's thirty two years old, right,

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Speaker 2: You know, could he be a comeback player for ten

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Speaker 1: Maybe?

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Speaker 2: I mean it didn't look like it. It looks like

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Speaker 2: Or sixteen teams payroll? Theirs cbtwo tacks this year is

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Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, do you think the owners care? Because you

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Speaker 4: know what they have, Jim. They have back to back

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Speaker 4: it's easier said than done to win that World Series.

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Speaker 4: But that money, I know. That's an amazing stat we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they have the revenue to do it though, too.

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Speaker 4: They got to know they're not They're not as making

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Speaker 4: Jim didn't you hear hal Stein run the other day.

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Speaker 2: The Mets aren't, but the Dodgers are. They absolutely are

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Speaker 2: And yes, yes they'll spend to the highest paid players,

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Speaker 3: Market is for these guys. Even the manager Dave Roberts, yes.

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Speaker 2: He's being paid a little more than Craig Council, not

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Speaker 2: But you know, I say this because I know pirate fans,

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Speaker 3: You can retire as a Pirate.

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Speaker 2: Fan, or trade yourself to the Dodgers if you want

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Speaker 3: So if you want to win as a fan, you

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Speaker 2: You don't have to roof for the team that's your

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Speaker 2: So look, if it bothers you that much, just become

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Speaker 1: It's fine.

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Speaker 3: Hey, JB.

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Speaker 1: Even Ken on our show was like, hey, you know

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean, look, Scott, their offers to both

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Speaker 2: gonna go back to Philadelphia. I'm comfortable there, I've won there.

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Speaker 2: We're a contending team.

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Speaker 3: You're not.

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Speaker 2: So how do you in a small mark get a

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Speaker 2: player you offer more years and more money and buy

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Speaker 2: a lot. How did the Nationals get Jason Worth? They

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Speaker 2: overpaid him more years, more money to the ridiculous number.

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Speaker 2: Jason Worth left Philadelphia go to Washington. Right, how in

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Speaker 2: the world did the Tigers end up getting Magleiardonius and

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Speaker 2: pad Rodriguez. They overpaid for them back then, and by

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Speaker 2: the way, both of those teams ended up going to.

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Speaker 3: The World Series. You have to have players.

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Speaker 2: But in a small market, if you want Josh Naylor,

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Speaker 2: you can't offer what Seattle's offering.

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Speaker 3: You have to offer more.

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Speaker 2: You want Kyle Schwarber, you should have offered seven years,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and ten million in overpay. Would it have

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Speaker 2: ended well, no, But that's how you get on the map.

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Speaker 2: And once you get one, once you get two, now

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you start to win and people

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Speaker 2: will follow. The funny part about the Pirates is they

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Speaker 2: have a starting rotation that can get them to be

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Speaker 2: competitive in that division. They actually could be a contender

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Speaker 2: if they can get offense. But if you want to

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Speaker 2: do it, you've got to make offers bigger than what

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Speaker 2: the market is and not even close. All right, now,

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Speaker 2: what can they do because that's much more constructive. Ryan

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Speaker 2: O'Hearn you Hennio Suarez two examples, two bats add some offense,

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Speaker 2: fifty home runs to the lineup, try to win, you know,

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Speaker 2: with your pitching and defense. Let Connor Griffin make this

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Speaker 2: team an opening day, Let him be in the run

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Speaker 2: for Rookie of the Year and let him light everything up.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, look, if you're not going to get the

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Speaker 2: big boys, which it's tough to do, right It's tough

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Speaker 2: to get the top free agents to go to Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: right now, you're not good enough.

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Speaker 3: You're just not.

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Speaker 2: But that being said, that next tier or the tier

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Speaker 2: after that, you could certainly improve the offense of this team.

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Speaker 2: We know they can pitch, so let's get some bats.

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Speaker 2: I think o'hearnan Suarez are two realistic guys they could

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Speaker 2: get in free agency right now, which would improve their

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Speaker 2: chances of contending.

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Speaker 4: Okay, before I let you go, I have your remiss

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Speaker 4: since I'm not going to see you before the college

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Speaker 4: football playoffs start. Okay, you mentioned team peep fans switching teams.

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Speaker 4: First of all, your son is the GM for USC.

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Speaker 4: The one win you Notre Dame had this year was

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Speaker 4: against USC. So as a USC fan and as a

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Speaker 4: non Notre Dame fan, you should be on this show

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Speaker 4: right now. Telling all these poor whiney baby Notre Dame

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Speaker 4: fans that I know, ohoo, that they could switch their

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Speaker 4: allegiance from Notre Dame to another school and most people

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Speaker 4: would be happy for them, because then I wouldn't have

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Speaker 4: to listen to all these Notre Dame people bitch and

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Speaker 4: moan about how they got screwed out of the playoffs

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Speaker 4: when the two teams they played all year that were

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs they lost to, and USC is the

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Speaker 4: one team they claim to beat. So here's your chance

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Speaker 4: to tell all those Notre Dame fans to come on

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Speaker 4: over to USC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every Notre Dame fan, you should come to USC.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big Marcus Freeman fan. I love him. I

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Speaker 2: think Notre Dame should align themselves with a conference. I

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Speaker 2: think being independent hurts them. I understand the tradition, but

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Speaker 2: I think you got to get in one of these conferences.

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Speaker 2: Is I do think you guys got screwed, but I

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Speaker 2: think you all should become USC fans.

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Speaker 3: I think AJ is absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll add on here, JB. They've been independent

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Speaker 1: for years. The difference is they don't have a boden.

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Speaker 1: They don't have a voting right now you know they're

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Speaker 1: missing a boating. That's that's part of the yep.

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Speaker 3: JB.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you. We will talk to you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you too.

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Speaker 1: Happy holidays, We will talk to you soon.

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Speaker 5: Good