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Speaker 1: Well, here we go instant reaction, and it's not to

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Speaker 1: a game, it is to a trade. The Colts have

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Speaker 1: Sauce Garner, the cornerback from New York in exchange for

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Speaker 1: the Colts, it is a massive trade, deadline trade. I'm

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Speaker 1: Casey Valier, joined by Bill Brooks. Bill. I did not

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Speaker 1: see this one coming. We had heard, you know, trade

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was surprised as well. I didn't know if

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Speaker 2: anything would happen with the Coats, if they make a

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Speaker 2: trade or not. Someone one wants to trade with the Coats,

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Speaker 2: and depending on what we would have to give up, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, sometimes that makes it a little bit difficult.

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Speaker 2: But I am pleasantly surprised with this trade. Who the

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Speaker 1: Absolutely Sauce Gardner. He is in his fourth year in

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Speaker 1: Here's a number I wrote down because I know this

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Speaker 1: but that's just who we are, you know. Sauce Gardner

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Speaker 1: be mentioned with Ronnie Lott, that's some elite category to

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Speaker 1: be mentioned in and that is what the Colts are

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Speaker 1: getting here in Sauce Gardener. He is labeled as one

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Speaker 2: As far as a receiver goes, it is very difficult

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Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner is long, he's tall, he uses his arms well,

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Speaker 2: uses his hands well, has good feet, and he gets

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Speaker 2: guys that, as you know, Casey, I think very highly

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Speaker 2: if Patrick Satan, sauce Gardner is in this same category

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Speaker 2: And then let's not forget you have Mikayi Blackman, who's

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Speaker 1: It is one of those things that if you look

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited whether that comes tomorrow as we're shooting

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Speaker 1: He is probably very excited one to get college teammate back,

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Speaker 2: And as a receiver, you want that in practice. I

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Speaker 1: Absolutely well, it's been it's been quite the afternoon here

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us here on Instant Reaction,

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Speaker 1: anything else that happens, we will join you here. But

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Speaker 1: once again, the Colts acquire sauce Gardner at a trade

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