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Speaker 1: We are joined now by Alex Barns in his new

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Speaker 1: book Pandemia is coming out this week. He's been on

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Speaker 1: with us quite a bit. Alex, thanks for joining us

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Speaker 1: and let's dive right into it. Are you currently curled

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Speaker 1: up in the fetal position in your hazmat suit with

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Speaker 1: eighteen different masks on over the latest variant from South Africa?

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Speaker 1: Or is this more COVID fearborn? I mean, how did

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Speaker 1: you know? I'm I'm, I'm, I'm in the closet. I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, in the basement. Yes, no, I mean look

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Speaker 1: this this unfortunately, I mean it looks and I hate

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Speaker 1: dismissive of the health and parties, but they've earned this. Um,

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Speaker 1: this looks like a joke, okay, the South African and

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Speaker 1: frankly it's not a joke though. It looks like an

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Speaker 1: effort to sort of try to get people get their

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Speaker 1: boosters because you know, booster demand is flatlining. Uh and

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Speaker 1: you know, first dost demand is flatlining, and the vaccine mandate,

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Speaker 1: is it looks like a pretty desperate effort because if

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Speaker 1: you look with the South Africans, who are the ones

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Speaker 1: who actually have been treating people who have this variant

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Speaker 1: are saying, they're saying, yes, it's very transmissible, but it

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Speaker 1: looks actually much milder than be a good thing. If

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Speaker 1: that's true, right, I mean, because we want this to

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Speaker 1: spread widely, that's right, It will truly be the final

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Speaker 1: evolution of the if that's correct. Man, we don't know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's very early, okay, and perhaps you know there's a

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Speaker 1: world in which it all goes bad and this is

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Speaker 1: not just very transmissible, you know, it's equally or more

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Speaker 1: path pathogenic than uh, than you know, than the delta

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Speaker 1: variant or other variants. Um but but but but we

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Speaker 1: certainly don't know that. It doesn't look that way. And

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Speaker 1: so you really have to ask yourself what was behind

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Speaker 1: this sudden coordinated global panic? Um and and certainly it

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Speaker 1: looks to me like it was the boosters. You know,

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Speaker 1: people don't want to get boosters. Vaccine effacacy is failing.

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Speaker 1: This is a way to make an excuse for that,

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Speaker 1: and uh and we should all be very cynical. And

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Speaker 1: the mighty stock market went down on Friday, it's up today.

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Speaker 1: So clearly the market is saying it doesn't think there's

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Speaker 1: much here. Alex, it's buck. It's been a couple of days. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: thanks for being back. We're good to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: I've get a good Thanksgiving. What are we seeing now

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Speaker 1: there are there numbers? Are there official numbers on how

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Speaker 1: breakthrough cases we have? Because it feels like we should

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Speaker 1: have a lot of that data, but we I don't

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Speaker 1: vaccine plateau or dip are we That's a great question,

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Speaker 1: That means that that means that those people are losing

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Speaker 1: any protection against infection or transmission if you believe the

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Speaker 1: you know, the UK and Swedish and Israeli data are

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Speaker 1: we been doing the last year? Well, what is the

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Speaker 1: to be the plan, including children. We played NIH Collins before,

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Speaker 1: be effective. Um, look, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: it really does catch the last eighteen to you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty four months. And one of the things that became

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Speaker 1: clear to me is like they've been wrong over and

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Speaker 1: about this was the school closers. The school should never

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Speaker 1: low risk from this. We know this. They don't spread

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Speaker 1: it to teachers, they don't give it to adults, to

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Speaker 1: get it from adults. They should not be penalized. And

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Speaker 1: all these people, all these people on the left, all

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Speaker 1: these health authorities, everyone in the media practically said, you know,

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Speaker 1: months later, and that is the consensus. The consensus is

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Speaker 1: the school should never have been closed, that we denied

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Speaker 1: It was wrong. Okay. Has anybody been punished in any way, Well,

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Speaker 1: on it. Alex Barnson with us, Now we've called them

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Speaker 1: Twitter anymore. When you look ahead, Alex, I'm glad that

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Speaker 1: But right now we're still in the Joe Biden if

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Speaker 1: book Pandemia out this week. Alex has been on the

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Speaker 1: a year and a half. Oppenheimer made the atomic bomb, right,

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Speaker 1: Oppenheimer and his scientists, but Truman decided to drop it.

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Speaker 1: Science provides the tool. Science can say, hey, we think

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Speaker 1: But it is up to us as a people and

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Speaker 1: And that has also been lost from the beginning of this,

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Speaker 1: the right. Whenever anyone does anything that is, even if

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Speaker 1: nationalism and white supremacy and the insurrection, the overthrow of

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Speaker 1: the country. Maybe we could just live in a place

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Speaker 1: where we realize that that's reckless to connect people to

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Speaker 1: things to which they have no connectivity, no ideological or

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Speaker 1: personal involvement in. But the left doesn't want to give

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Speaker 1: that up. They want to keep lecturing every time there's

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Speaker 1: a white school shooter. They want to write editorials about

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Speaker 1: how the biggest danger in America are you angry white

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Speaker 1: men they want to be wrote that story within a

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Speaker 1: day or two, that the biggest threat to America was

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Speaker 1: white men, and we had a call or who I

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Speaker 1: thought crystallized this last week, Sadly, your identity defines your

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Speaker 1: actions as opposed to as an individual, everybody being responsible

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Speaker 1: for what they did, and it crystallized. Great example, Boulder

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Speaker 1: grocery store. Early photos of that guy. He looks like

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Speaker 1: a white guy. You can see his skin. Twitter does

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Speaker 1: its thing, the Blue Check Brigade loses its mind, blaming

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Speaker 1: white people for white men in particular, for all the

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Speaker 1: evils that exist in society. And then it comes out

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Speaker 1: that the guy is a Syrian immigrant, or at least

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Speaker 1: of a Syrian immigrant family, and the story basically disappeared.

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Speaker 1: And the same thing is happening right now with this

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Speaker 1: man who not only hit people while driving his car

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Speaker 1: buck he was steering his car to try to hit

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Speaker 1: as many people as pass. Was a mass murder in

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Speaker 1: no way, shape or form. Was this accidental, you know,

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Speaker 1: something that just happened spur of the moment. This guy decided,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go kill all these people with my car,

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Speaker 1: and that is what he did. It is mass murder.

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Speaker 1: How often have you even seen that term used? How

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Speaker 1: often has anyone used the term terror attack, which this

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Speaker 1: clearly was. We're not even we're not even discussing this anymore.

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Speaker 1: I mean about the mention Kyle Rottenhouse shot three rioters

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Speaker 1: who were attacking him, and it was like the big

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Speaker 1: has gone crazy and vigilantes and all this stuff. This

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Speaker 1: just happened, Clay, and we're not even talking about it

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Speaker 1: anymore in the media. They're not discussing it. Have you

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Speaker 1: heard a single person talk about this as a potential

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Speaker 1: hate crime. If a white person with any sort of

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Speaker 1: six of them immediately, there would have been a connection

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Speaker 1: to white supremacy and a demand that there'd be a

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Speaker 1: hate crime investigation. Have you heard a single Republican or

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Speaker 1: Democrat say, hey, can we look into this in the

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice look into this to see if potentially

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Speaker 1: this was a hate crime? Can the state of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard any. Let's be real about this for

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Speaker 1: a second, Okay, if instead of in this case, a

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Speaker 1: BLM supporter killed some thousand do people who had out

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Speaker 1: else over this car, if the facts changed here and

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Speaker 1: claimed that they had you know that there were nooses

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Speaker 1: hanging from You would have dozens of FBI agents. You

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Speaker 1: would have the Bide administration investigating the rise of hate

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Speaker 1: an instant where no one's actually hurt. I mean, look

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Speaker 1: what happened with mass car and the pull down spring

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Speaker 1: and all the Bubba Wallas story. You would FBI all

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Speaker 1: over the place with this. You have candlelight vigils. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't a tornado that came out of nowhere, folks. It

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Speaker 1: was a mass murder by somebody spurred by hate. And

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Speaker 1: it's a hate that is being fed by a Democrat

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Speaker 1: media apparat that is constantly self aggrandizing itself, but self

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Speaker 1: aggrandizing by talking about how racist this country is and

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's a little reckless clay for the media to

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Speaker 1: opposite of that. Maybe maybe they should stop this at NBC,

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Speaker 1: But you know, then they'd feel guilty about belonging to

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Speaker 1: the NBC newsroom, and you know see New York Times. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: What is the difference between a Donald Trump travel band

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Speaker 1: slowing down the spread of COVID. Let's just say, now,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of things that may come to mind.

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Speaker 1: As I've pointed out, in the early days of the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: hospitals ready, we had to get geared up. But we're

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Speaker 1: geared up now, right, and we also know this variant

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Speaker 1: is all over the place. We understand the to borrow

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Speaker 1: from Fauci dynamics of the virus much better than we

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Speaker 1: did before. But then, why is it that there are

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Speaker 1: still all these tweets out there from Kamala Harris and

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Speaker 1: when Donald Trump had travel bands. But now for Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden's president, he said that COVID travel restrictions on foreign

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Speaker 1: countries were hysterical, xenophobia and bear monderings. So what change, well,

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Speaker 1: I would say, first, to put it in full context, Peter,

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Speaker 1: what the president was critical of was the way that

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Speaker 1: and who he directed it at. The President has not

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Speaker 1: been critical of travel restrictions. We have put those in

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Speaker 1: place ourselves. We put them in place ourselves in the spring.

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Speaker 1: But no, he does not believe he believes we should

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Speaker 1: follow the advice of health and medical experts. That's exactly

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Speaker 1: what he did and putting him place these restrictions over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. No, she's rewriting history. That's actually not what

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Speaker 1: the objection was to Trump. The objection was, you are

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Speaker 1: doing something that is racist because you're using a travel

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Speaker 1: band and involved China. Because you're doing it. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: just because of some tweet. Amala Harris said it was racism.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden said it was racism. Nancy Pelosi said it

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Speaker 1: was racism. And now they are doing the same thing

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Speaker 1: to South Africa and other African nations. And it just

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Speaker 1: points out how rank the hypocrisy is when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the travel bands that they have now implemented on

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Speaker 1: these African countries, which we hope, by the way, this

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Speaker 1: variant is not going to be as debilitating as so

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Speaker 1: many people in the Biden White House already seemed to

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Speaker 1: be preparing for based on the South African scientist herself

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Speaker 1: has been very mild in terms of its overall impact.

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Speaker 1: But it is important to point out how blatantly of

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Speaker 1: lies so many of the responses to Trump were that

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Speaker 1: they're trying to get remain in Mexico back in place.

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Speaker 1: We were told that was racist. We should point out too,

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Speaker 1: that while they are putting a travel ban in place,

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Speaker 1: the border at our south remains open. So if you

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Speaker 1: are concerned about new variants of COVID coming into the country,

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Speaker 1: such that you are putting a travel ban in place

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Speaker 1: for many African countries, how in the world are you

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Speaker 1: not testing anyone for COVID as they enter the country.

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Speaker 1: Or and I would reiterate again, while you're trying to

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Speaker 1: anyone entering this country because they know buck that if

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Speaker 1: they tried to do that, they would be struck down

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, If you can't mandate vaccines for illegal immigrants,

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Speaker 1: how in the world are vaccines being mandated for Americans citizens?

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Speaker 1: And that's a tough I don't know if their objection

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Speaker 1: think they First of all, they often don't care, as

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Speaker 1: we know from what they did with the eviction band, right,

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Speaker 1: they'll do things they know are flatly unconstitutional because they

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Speaker 1: don't want to set the press and they well, they

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Speaker 1: don't want to do it. They don't want to do

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Speaker 1: it because they feel differently about illegal immigrants because they're

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Speaker 1: a special protected class of people. So they don't want

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Speaker 1: to stress them out. And you know, put that oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, we're gonna make you get the shot, and no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Americans have to get the shot. But if you come

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Speaker 1: to the country illegally, you know, you're a special protected class.

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Speaker 1: They're thought of any illegal immigrant. You have to remember this. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: every illegal immigrant Democrats consider to be a victim. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter what their status is in life, where they're

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Speaker 1: coming from, why they're coming. If you're an illegal immigrant,

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Speaker 1: you're a victim of America not making you legal. I

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Speaker 1: know that's crazy, but that is actually the thing of

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party about illegal immigrants. We do have a

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Speaker 1: particular do you mind if we grabbed this call quickly, Clay,

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Speaker 1: because this sounds from Walker Show. We brought this up before.

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Speaker 1: George in Walkershaw, Wisconsin has some thoughts to share. George, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon, guys. Just want to let you guys know,

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Speaker 1: my son, my youngest son, went to or gois to

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Speaker 1: Walker Shot South high school. He's a junior, and up

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Speaker 1: until I would say probably about six weeks seven weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: Charlie if in the school years started, he decided to

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Speaker 1: drop out of the marching band. So we know, I

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Speaker 1: know and he knows two of the four boys that

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Speaker 1: were in that he knows really well. I know them

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Speaker 1: really well because I coached them in baseball over the summer.

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Speaker 1: I know their families and other parents. Very tragic. What

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Speaker 1: happened horrific. What happened that the guy did. I listened

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Speaker 1: to the police chief news conference last week I could

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Speaker 1: get some more information on it, and he had stated that,

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Speaker 1: you know, this person in, this suspect was in Frame Park.

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Speaker 1: They were on their way to a disturbance call for

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Speaker 1: a knife fight. The police department never even got to

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Speaker 1: Frame Park, so there was no chase on. That's right

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Speaker 1: for him. He deliberately drove into the parade the route

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Speaker 1: that he had taken from the from where he was at.

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Speaker 1: I've lived in Walkshaw almost my entire life. Where he

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Speaker 1: was at at the Frame Park with the disturbance call

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Speaker 1: and where he drove to. There were several other opportunities

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Speaker 1: for him to drive away from that parade route several

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Speaker 1: he decided to drive down the parade route and mow

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Speaker 1: down all these innocent people. What do you think about

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Speaker 1: the meeting. We've only got about a minute before they

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Speaker 1: got to cut us off here. What do you think

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Speaker 1: about the media coverage of this so far? I think

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Speaker 1: it's horrific. I really think CNN has done a bad job,

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Speaker 1: in MSNBC, all of them. The media needs to be

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Speaker 1: held accountable for what's going on in this in this

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Speaker 1: country and in the world. Well, George, that's what we're

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Speaker 1: trying to do here. We appreciate you calling in, and

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Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers to you and all the folks of

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Speaker 1: Waukasha for the mass casualty attack that they have suffered.

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Speaker 1: Let's be very clear about what it was. We'll continue

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Speaker 1: to talk about it honestly here on this show, because Clay,

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Speaker 1: that's what we do. No doubt it was and appears

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Speaker 1: to have been certainly worthy of a hate crime investigation.

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Speaker 1: You know that if the races were changed, it would

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Speaker 1: be Why is the media avoiding talking about it? Honestly?

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Speaker 1: We'll continue to ask those questions. We'll be back with

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Speaker 1: you Tuesday. Thanks for hanging with us on the clay

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