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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Battleground Podcast, pot.

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Speaker 2: You'll play for all things pro wrestling.

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Speaker 3: And exclusive interviews with some of your favorite wrestlers.

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Speaker 4: Wound podcast stoping, What's up you guys? Welcome back into

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Speaker 4: iHeartRadio's official wrestling podcast.

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Speaker 3: This is the Battleground Podcast, and.

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Speaker 4: I will tell you TNA is making their return to

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Speaker 4: Louisville August thirtieth, which, by the way, you could still

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Speaker 4: grab your tickets now TNA wrestling dot com.

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Speaker 3: And well, we have a guest on the.

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Speaker 4: Show that a lot of things have happened since we

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Speaker 4: last had him on.

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Speaker 3: Let's give it up everybody. Mike Santana June Show.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, sir, I'm doing great. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. Glad to have you back on.

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Speaker 4: Last time we had you on the show, it was

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Speaker 4: after your documentary debut, a lot of people talking about it,

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Speaker 4: and uh, you know what, I want to talk about

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Speaker 4: something else that's happening coming up here literally in just

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Speaker 4: a couple of days.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 4: August twenty third, is your one year anniversary of returning

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Speaker 4: to the ring from injury. Now, if you could talk

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Speaker 4: to yourself a year ago before your return, what would

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Speaker 4: you tell yourself.

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Speaker 1: Trust yourself. I would I would say, trust your process,

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Speaker 1: trust yourself. You know, Like when I was out, I

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Speaker 1: put together a plan and I told myself, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to steer away from that plan. And so far

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Speaker 1: that plan has been hitting on all cylinders, you know.

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Speaker 1: And and yeah, and of course, you know, in the beginning,

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Speaker 1: you're you know, you don't know how things are going

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Speaker 1: to go. You don't know, you know, there's things that

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Speaker 1: you have no control over, and it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: But I decided to double down on myself and trust

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Speaker 1: myself and and better myself. You know. So everything has

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Speaker 1: been you know, working, and everything has been going and

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Speaker 1: really really well. And yeah, man, I've been excited and

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Speaker 1: I've been able to do a lot of amazing things

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Speaker 1: within this year. The fact that I started my journey,

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Speaker 1: like my very first match was in front of eighty

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Speaker 1: thousand people, right, and to see what I've done since

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Speaker 1: then is insane to me, you know, especially thinking back

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Speaker 1: on you know, what I went through while I was

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Speaker 1: out and just that whole process and getting the mind

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Speaker 1: and the body and the spirit right and and you know,

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Speaker 1: taking care of you know, real life in this person.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, man, it's it's been awesome. It's been awesome,

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Speaker 2: So, as we mentioned, TNA is on the road coming

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Speaker 2: up to Louisville at Old Forester's Paris Town Hall. What

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Speaker 2: makes Louisville such a killer, amazing pro wrestling town.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, the the Midwest in general,

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Speaker 1: like wrestling has always been you know, huge, and uh

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of like you know, other independent companies

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty awesome. Uh, TNA. I feel like

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Speaker 1: everywhere they've gone so far, like has been successful, thankfully,

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Speaker 1: right up to now, so every show, a lot of

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Speaker 1: the shows have been selling out. You know, the people

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Speaker 1: are coming out, which is great. Just means the product

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Speaker 1: And and yeah, everyone from in the ring to behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes, everyone is busting their ass and has that

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Speaker 1: common goal of you know, making the show better, growing

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Speaker 1: the show, and yeah, it's awesome to be a part of.

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Speaker 1: Like it it's motivating, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, it's got to make the job easier.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can also tell that y'all have a lot

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Speaker 4: of fun because every week, there's something new, there's something

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Speaker 4: you're seeing the TNA stars going over to NXC, Like

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Speaker 4: you can obviously tell that you guys are having fun.

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Speaker 4: And well, I don't want to harp on bad things,

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Speaker 4: a quick second. Yeah, August fifteenth, on an episode of

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Speaker 4: and ultimately came up on the short end. Where does

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Speaker 1: I'm going to eat them all alive like that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what else to say. Like they

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Speaker 1: was like a little extra slap in the face, uh,

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Speaker 1: I think they're doing it purposely though. They're definitely doing

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Speaker 1: because uh yeah, once once that other person comes out, man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously if he was concerned about a fair

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Speaker 1: Been involved anyway. So we'll leave that for that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So there are a ton of talent at the main

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Speaker 2: event level in TNA right now, all gunning for the

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Speaker 2: world championship. Hell about nick name it right now? What

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Speaker 2: to that level or do you think you're already at

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Speaker 2: that level? Like where do you like? You know, I

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Speaker 2: know you said you've done a lot of reflection and

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Speaker 1: I think, honestly, I'm enjoying the process. I feel like

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Speaker 1: enjoying that, you know that road. I always say, like

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Speaker 1: It's all about the climb, right because the climb is

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Speaker 1: right and right now, I feel like I'm on that process.

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Speaker 1: I'm on I'm on the climb and I'm enjoying every

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Speaker 1: he knows that. But yeah, i think I'm on that

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Speaker 1: like everything that I've been through to get back to

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Speaker 1: what I love to do. Like that's my motivation. Man.

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Speaker 1: Like I I hate to say it, they ain't nobody

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Speaker 1: hungry than me right now. Like that's the honest truth.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say it to anybody's face in the company.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. And when I get there, yo,

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Speaker 2: You know, you've been making the town when you're not

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Speaker 2: doing your impact. I mean it's almost like every weekend

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I've been on the road. I'd

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Speaker 1: say the past what eight or nine weeks straight? Man,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm not playing. Yeah, like I told I

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Speaker 1: Also making sure that i'm the best dad possible, just

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Speaker 1: you know, maintaining that balance. You know, for me, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that that's that's some good stuff.

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Speaker 4: Right there, is I mean, like you mentioned the balance

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Speaker 4: and you're you're ready to go, and it's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: several weeks, and it's like, okay, TNA, once it happens,

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Speaker 4: him saying that he's on the road, traveling everywhere. And

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Speaker 1: I mean in general, it just for me personally, I

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Speaker 1: And for me, I've done it since day one. Like

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Speaker 1: and it was always very important to me. I grew

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Speaker 1: And I feel like it's just important, especially like you know,

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Speaker 1: happen for yourself. Just last Thursday, I went back to

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Speaker 1: important it is to trust yourself and bet on yourself.

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Speaker 1: And it's awesome. I always just try to find the

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Speaker 4: That's awesome. And I remember to a previous conversation that

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Speaker 4: we had with you years ago when you talked about

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Speaker 4: how your heritage is so important that you made sure

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Speaker 4: that when your Action figure came out, you had a

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Speaker 4: Puerto Rican flag with your Action figure.

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Speaker 1: wrestling to ever come with a Puerto Rican flag.

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Speaker 4: Yes, because I remember we had that conversation and you're like,

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Speaker 4: that was like the only thing I said, I don't

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Speaker 3: This has to be.

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Speaker 3: Yes, good stuff right there.

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Speaker 4: Same I've want I've watched videos where kids walk up

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Speaker 5: No, no, well, Mike, it's an honor to have you

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Speaker 5: back on the show, man and definitely looking forward to

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Speaker 5: uh seeing you get you know this gold over here

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Speaker 5: the best, and uh, of course TNA coming back to

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Speaker 3: Grab those tickets now TNA Wrestling dot com.

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Speaker 4: And before we let you go, you wus say anything

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Speaker 4: to everybody watching listening to this right now.

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Speaker 1: Keep supporting TNA Wrestling. You know we're onto some awesome stuff.

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Speaker 1: The show just keeps getting better and better. And yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: all the projects that I'm working on and stuff. You

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Speaker 4: And if you're trying to get one of his T shirts,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Word also like, I, uh, it's been it's been

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