WEBVTT - Super Bowl, HOF, potential offseason moves | Bears Weekly 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:04.720 Welcome in Tumble Bears Weekly, a Chicago Bears Network production 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:08.200 download the Chicago Bears Official Act, brought to you by 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:11.360 Verizon to follow the team on the go. 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We've got our helpers, 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.800 of course, in the studio at ESPN one thousand and 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.000 our producers Jordan tread Up and Dan Brilly from the 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.560 Bears and the executive producer of the Bears Ready Network, 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:57.720 Eric Ostrowski. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:58.120 Tell us how we doing. 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.920 Jimmy survived, You've been traveling stop, You've sprotted wings, You've 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:03.160 been flying all over America. 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:04.720 How did you survive Vegas? 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.400 I'll tell you what. I thought they did a great job. Obviously, 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.679 they had about three hundred thousand fans come in for 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.560 the game, and I thought overall for the NFL, you 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.160 know that these numbers continued to go up. It was 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:18.400 the most viewed super Bowl, and I think the NFL 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.200 did it without a hit, without a hitch. I think 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.319 it's kind of a dot com bubble that just doesn't 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:26.240 seem to burst. But as for the game, the game 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.160 was incredible, and I thought to go to overtime, and 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:33.080 obviously Patrick Mahomes doing Patrick Mahomes things had to be 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.720 pretty frustrating for the San Francisco forty nine ers. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:39.119 It was the second smallest crowds and Super Bowl one 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.240 at a little bit over sixty one thousand people. So 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.040 the reason that the viewing audience is so big is 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:49.360 because they didn't have the seventy five thousand seat you know, 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:53.640 eighty thousand seat you know stadium that they probably would 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.360 have sold out equally as easy. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.400 Everybody's got different opinions and how it was going to 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.720 play out and what did play out ultimately, and you know, 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.480 maybe I'm wrong. But you know, you keep talking about 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.480 you got to have special quarterback and I know I 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.480 said that on our podcast this week with Tommy Jimmy, 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.200 But you know, you also got a factor in the 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:17.799 defensive quotion here, and Steve Spagnolo did an unbelievable job 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:22.680 throughout the entire postseason and now the most decorated defensive 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:26.200 coordinator in terms of Super Bowls and wins in the 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.320 NFL history, and that's Steve Spagnolo. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.760 Yeah, he was tremendous. You know, they were probably the 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.600 most consistent defense throughout the regular season and then got 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.800 even better in the postseason. During the year, they were 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.720 only giving up seventeen point three points a game, and 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.800 I think we know why. Their offense was kind of 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.160 a struggle to get going. So the defense somewhat carried 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.840 Kansas City. And then through the postseason, as I mentioned, 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.200 you're facing the best of the best, and they're on 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:56.200 the road the entire time, they actually got better. They 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.120 were only giving up fifteen point eight points a game. 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.080 That includes on the Super Bowl as well. So and 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.560 they're the youngest defense in the league. Think about that. 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.239 They average twenty five years of age, and so that's 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.080 a credit to Steve to be able to communicate to 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.840 a lot of young players who they had four rookies 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.680 that started on that defense a season ago in the 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.920 Super Bowl, and how they really carried it over. So 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.400 really a fine job by Steve Spagnolo. 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:23.840 Yeah, but you know, the one. 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.880 Thing about that, Jim Man, Jeff, is that if the 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.239 forty nine ers don't fumble on the first series of 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.280 the game, and say they just score three points out 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.280 of that possibly seven, then they get the extra point block. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.960 If they go down and they score that first series, 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.120 then you got Spagnola thinking about, okay, is my plan 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.480 right or else? It gives the opportunity for San Francisco 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.960 defensive coordinator Steve Wilkes to be way more aggressive in 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.560 those first series if you're playing on a lead. So 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:55.840 there's a lot of different moments in time that you know, 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.920 could change the thinking process of the coaching And I 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.040 do like what the Spagnola did. Man, the guy's really 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:06.600 a great defensive coordinator. However, when you have plays like 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:10.200 that that take away scoring opportunities, and when you think 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.960 about the game was one by three and you left 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.359 at least minimum four on the field, it could have 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.760 been a different outcome if it was a perfectly played 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:21.000 game by both teams. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.480 Jim, Andy Reid, You've spent many hours talking to him 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.039 over the course of his career. When you add it 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.320 all up, and he's been to the big Game several 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.640 times now, but it took him twenty years to actually 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.799 win a Super Bowl, and it just emphasizes how hard 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.880 it is to win this game. Everybody says, oh, you know, 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:40.640 you want to compete for a Super Bowl, and that 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.799 all sounds good, but everything has to come together. 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:45.880 We all know that. To me, you know, you. 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.920 Could talk about all the other sports, but this one 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:52.359 because of the threat of injury at every turn, on 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.279 every single snap. How do you put that in a 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.120 frame and explain his career, Andy Reid. 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:02.160 I think he's always been good really assembling a good roster, 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.640 you know. I think even if you go back in Philadelphia, 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:09.360 you know, five times they were in the NFC Championship game. Yes, 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.000 they only went to one Super Bowl, which they lost 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.360 to the New England Patriots. But you know, to even 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.240 get that far, to have that many cracks at having 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.599 an opportunity to get to the Super Bowl. And I 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.920 think the key in that is one you've got to 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.440 have good rosters offense, defense, and special teams. He's always 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.840 had good offensive lines, he's always had good defenses. Think 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.560 of the great Jim Johnson that was his defensive coordinator 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.760 in Philadelphia, and now he had Spagnolo who's been with 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.680 him five years in Kansas City. And I think he's 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:42.440 got a great idea in mind to identify his quarterback. 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.800 Think about what he learned in Green Bay coaching Brett Fharr. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.480 He goes to Philadelphia, he brings Doug Peterson with him, 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.760 and right away he drafts Donovan McNabb. Then when he 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:58.680 leaves Philadelphia he goes to Kansas City. He identified the 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:02.160 quarterback and that was to trade and get Alex Smith. 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.640 And now when he's got Alex Smith, he has the 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:09.360 foresight to trade up in the draft because he identified 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:13.360 that Patrick Mahomes was such a talent that they identified 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.680 him and then the drafted Patrick Mahomes cultivated him the 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.840 right way. He sat for a year and Alex Smith played. 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.560 But I think he's really got a good idea of 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.040 the quarterback that you need with the style of offense 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.600 that he wants to run. But offensively, he's always been 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.480 good at identifying his QB, and he's got a good one. 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:32.479 You know. 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.080 I think one thing about Andy Reid. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.039 I think it's more amazing than the fact that he 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.640 was an offensive tackle in college and then he's by 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.840 you know, known probably by a whole generation that don't 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.880 realize that he was an offensive tackle, but being raised 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.960 in the novel Edwards system at BYU and playing around 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.680 a quarterback in college like Jim McMahon who left college 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:56.320 was seventy two records and how successful they were and 0:06:56.400 --> 0:07:00.479 the Mountain West back in the day that he's he's 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.400 had an understanding of the importance of the development of 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:07.120 the quarterback position while he was an offensive tackle, and 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.160 I really don't see a lot of other guys that 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.440 have had that growth potential to that position that didn't 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:14.680 play quarterback itself. 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:16.880 Many ways to skin a cat, but I'll tell you 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:18.960 there's only a few ways to win a Super Bowl, 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.040 and you gotta have certain elements, and we can discuss you. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.760 Gotta have a quarterback, no question about that. We'll discuss more. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.400 Brad Spielberger coming up from Pro Football Focus to look 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.680 at the Bears at the draft, free agency and where 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.520 they're poised to strike. Here on Bears Weekly on ESPN 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.120 Chicago and the Bears Radio Network. 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.720 You were tuned into Bears Weekly with Jeff Jonyak on 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:44.160 the Bears Radio Network. This is Bears Weekly with a 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.520 voice of the Bears for twenty three years, Jeff Jonyak 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.640 on the Bears Radio Network. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.680 This segment of Bears Weekly is brought to you by 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.960 IGS Energy. Jeff Joniak along with Tom Payer, Jim Miller 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.000 from Serious X and MNFL Radio is moving the chain 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:01.960 and Brad Spielberger joining. 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.480 Us from Pro Football Focus. 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.000 He's been with us before, Glad, you rejoined us because 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.000 guess what, here we are again. I thought last offseason 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:10.720 was going to be the off season of the Bears. 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.720 Constant conversation. That turned out to be the case with 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.480 the big trade, and here we are again, Brad. I mean, 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.680 this is something we have just been talking while we 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.840 were waiting for you, and it's just constant conversation what 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.200 they gonna do and from the inside walls of Pro 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:26.040 Football Focus. 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:27.760 And you back from Vegas at the Super Bowl. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:28.320 What are you hearing? 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:28.920 What are you thinking? 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:29.920 Yeah? 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.560 No, it's funny, Like you said, we had this exact 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.280 same conversation last year, the Bears controlling the draft at 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.760 number one. I think this time is different though. I 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.839 think you are already going to see the Bears take 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.720 a quarterback at first. Overall, we'll see who that quarterback is. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.480 I know everyone is talking about Caleb Williams, but that 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.280 is a consensus when you talk to people around the 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.600 league as well in Vegas, which you can tell from 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.840 my voice. I was just in Vegas. That's what everyone 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:54.360 expects to happen. And I think you trade fields, get 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.120 some draft compensation there, try to get some receiver talent, 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:58.439 some trench talent on. 0:08:58.440 --> 0:08:59.280 Both sides of the ball. 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.240 And this is the off seas of the Bears, and 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.960 then we're done having this conversation about you know what 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:05.719 the Bears do it first overall. 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.600 Hey, Brad, you know a subject that I haven't heard 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.680 addressed once so far this offseason. And when you think 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.320 of the finances and you think of the depth of 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.040 a position, where does. 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.959 Beijing fit into the discussion? Do you have to have? 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:20.880 You know, I don't want to see him go spend 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.480 a lot of money on a quarterback just because he's 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:24.120 a veteran. 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.840 And now how does he fit into this? And your 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:29.400 thinking in the quarterback position. 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.319 It's a good question, yeah right, because in theory, you say, hey, 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.240 a lot of teams want to have that veteran leader 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.439 for the quarterback. He said, well, do you want to 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.360 move on from a really good undrafted free agent that 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.720 has probably proven he can be at least a backup 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.000 in this league? And if you you know, you're not 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.520 going to carry three quarterbacks, most likely if you did 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.000 wave him or something like that, try to get on 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.920 the practice squad, someone probably would pick him up. So 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.440 it's a very good question, you know. I think maybe 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.960 they're just trying to build this coaching staff nucleus with 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:58.000 all these you know, guys from the quarterback Collective, which 0:09:58.040 --> 0:09:59.040 is where kill. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:00.200 Williams is training right now now. 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.360 Shane Waldron's been involved there, some of the other coaches 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.960 they brought in Carry Joseph some others have been involved 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.160 there as well. So maybe they're not going to have 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.000 that veteran presence maybe, you know, I know, it's been 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.800 very very common. We hear that it's helpful. It also 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:17.680 doesn't guarantee you success. As Bears fans can attest having 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.800 any Dalton or Nick Foles or whoever hasn't guaranteed anything 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:22.920 in the past. 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.520 Well, Brad Jim Miller here and if they do go 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.679 quarterback one, as you suggest other areas of needs that 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:31.760 you've targeted for the Chicago Bears. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.360 Yeah, for me, a wide receiver is the next need. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.000 You know, it's great to get Dj Moore. You have 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.640 a clear cut bona fide number one. I don't really 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.640 think Darnold Mooney is a Bear in twenty twenty four. 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.760 I'm not saying I would would't welcome him back, but 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.199 I just don't see it folding. 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:44.360 Out that way. 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.480 And I think they are sitting there at nine hoping 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.800 that one of Molik Neighbors from LSU or rom A 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.400 Dounza from Washington are available at nine. I think Dounsday's 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.840 probably more likely. I really think Neighbors and Marvin Harrison 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.160 Junior are going to be top five, top seven picks. 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.520 But a donsay they're really special talent big you know, 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:06.640 good of the contested catch player, good route runner, late hands, 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.839 late separations, a lot of the nuance of playing wide 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:11.920 receiver does very very well. I think we'll hit the 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.640 ground running immediately. And then second for me is more 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.199 defensive line help. Whether that's on the interior of three 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.240 tech to kind of move Dravon Dexter around, making more 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.400 of a one technique or another edge rusher opposite of 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.560 Montes Sweat. I think that's where I'm looking if I'm 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:26.720 the Chicago Bears. 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.040 Brat Spieldberger, our guest here on AESPN one thousand of 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.280 the Bears radio network, Jeff and Tom and Jim Miller 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.880 from Serious x MNFL Radios moving the chain. So with 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.559 that said, we're always focused on the big prize of 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.160 quarterbacks in the draft, but we got free agency before that. 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.040 Where do you see the Bears sitting in terms of 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.280 being poised to strike? They have salary cap space. Again, 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.120 maybe more will be created here in the coming weeks, 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.480 But that's the most obvious attention at the moment is 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:53.400 what they might do in free agency. And I know 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.800 you dip into that quite a bit as well. Where 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:57.920 are they cap wise and how do you see things? 0:11:58.400 --> 0:11:59.920 Yeah, they're healthy on the cap and they do have 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.560 more moves they could make to clear extra room. I 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.120 think they'll again kind of be like quietly aggressive. As 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.120 Ryan Poles has mentioned, pick your spots. Maybe had certain 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.720 players like at Tremaine Edmonds, you make a bigger splash, 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.120 but more so kind of just filling out starters. I 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.160 think for me, center is the number one choice here. 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.360 There's a ton of center talent available. It also helps 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.200 that two guys in Evan Brown who started for Seattle 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.000 this year, and then Coleman Shelton who played for the 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.920 Rams with Shane Waldron. So two guys that ran Shane 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.440 Waldron's offense, you know, are available at center. That could 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.880 We talked about having that veteran quarterback. Having a veteran 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.520 center that knows the offensive coordinators offense would also help 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.400 this hypothetical rookie quarterback quite a bit. 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:41.520 So I go there. 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.400 I look at Bryce Off with the New York Jets 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.200 is an edge rusher. If you want to add a 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:49.120 pure one on one pass rush winner opposite of Montes Sweat. 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.120 I look at Bryce Off and then the interior of 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.640 that defensive line. There's so much talent there. The big 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.600 name like a Justin Metta Bik from Baltimore, Christian Wilkins 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:58.720 from Miami had a really good year, or even further 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:00.640 down a list like a tight Year Tart from Tennessee 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.560 or a Grover Stewart from overrun stuff from Indy. There's 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:07.440 there's a ton of names there. So, like I said, trenches, trenches, trenches. 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:08.720 You know, Brad. 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.880 Just to continue the narrative about the defensive line, you 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.880 think about what Chase Young and Montes Sweat did during 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:19.079 the regular season last year and by moving to new teams, 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.000 and then you think of this year, a guy like 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:25.360 Chris Jones or Daneil Hunter. Are those guys beyond their 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.960 peak and on the downside, even though Chris Jones I 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.480 think as a heck of a player and Danielle Hunter 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:32.120 is a guy. 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.800 That's in the division, are those two. 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.760 Guys that you can still identify as players that come 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.680 in and be first ay starters and immediate help. 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:44.040 I really don't think Chris Jones is done, you know, ascending. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.320 It's remarkable how good he's in the last couple of years. 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.880 But also you see the kids see now lotning him 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.960 up as a seven tech, you know, edge rusher, and 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.400 he's winning against good tackles, like bending the corner, flattening 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.719 his art, getting to the quarterback. It's what he's able 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:59.720 to do at six five, three hundred is truly incredible. 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.120 So I wouldn't be opposed to it obviously. That's you know, 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.479 it's my number one free agent in the entire offseason, 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.640 you know, among all teams. But far be it from 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.320 me to be against adding Chris Jones Steel Hunter. I 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.120 think to a degree you probably could make that argument. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.559 Still a very very good player, the Vikings led the 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:18.040 NFL and Blitz right by a staggering margin, and so 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.480 his sack numbers are a little bit inflated to where 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.640 they're always bringing extra bodies. He's obviously still a phenomenal 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.520 football player, but yeah, per PFF's metrics and all that 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.360 pass rush, win rate, pressure rate, some of those numbers, 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.080 he's not quite as dominant on a you know, per 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.840 play basis by himself. But again, I would not be 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:36.320 opposed to ring indidn't Hunter. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.600 Final one for me? Brad Is I would assume if 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:42.360 they can't get a long term deal done with Jalen Johnson, 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.800 they would probably put the franchise tag on him. But 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.240 you know, we'll see where that goes. But if they 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.480 were to lose Jalen Johnson, what other corners out there 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.320 in free agency on DC? If they do elect to 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.280 move on from I think he's a blue chip player. 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:56.840 I really like the year he's at. 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:57.680 I do too. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:59.600 I'm not even twenty five years old yet, so I 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.480 think the number one target there would be a guy 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.080 you saw play on Sunday Night, and that's Lugerious Neat 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.040 and those two are by far the best corners available 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.160 in free agency. Seems a little bit older, but he 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.800 has the inside, outside versatility. You know, played outside this 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.680 year for the first time for a majority, Sticky in coverage, 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.560 very physical. I know we did have the penalty in 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.640 the Super Bowl, but I love about him as normally 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.080 he gets the offensive player to take a penalty. He 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:27.080 keeps his composure, so he's competitor. He's a talker and 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.560 just a really really good player. Down the board, there's 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.880 some more kind of value options, but I'm with you, 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:33.840 and I think Ryan Poles agrees with us. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:35.240 They got to do whatever they can to keep you. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:36.760 Allen Johnson, Yeah, no question. 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.680 He really did spark and I love the age part 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.240 of it. Twenty five that's the wheelhouse for me. My gosh, 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.240 if you can get a twenty five signed up, you're 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:44.880 in good shape. 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:45.120 All right. 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.080 We're going to wrap up here, and we appreciate your time. 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:51.000 What did we learn from the Super Bowl, regardless of 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.640 who won or not, that will echo in throughout the 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.480 rest of twenty twenty four throughout this league. 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.960 Do you think, Yeah, I think it's a continued lesson, 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.080 but really an exclamation point just on the value you 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.359 have interior pass rush and you don't have to necessarily 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.240 have you know, these incredible tackles, incredible edge rushers, you 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.400 of course want them, but you look at this game 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.400 and San frans Interier offensive line kind of got bullied 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.320 and that's why Rock Purty was either under siege and 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.600 throwing the ball away or not able to get the 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.520 ball out at all. And Kansas City didn't really have 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.680 much off of the edge, you know, with an injury 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.320 to Charles Amene who they just couldn't really win there. 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.440 So I think that's just the continued stories. If you 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.880 can collapse the pocket, and the fastest path to the 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.400 quarterback is you know, a straight line from point A 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.160 to point B. So I think more you know players 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.400 like that in this draft class, maybe a little bit earlier. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.760 I think you're gonna see more and more investment on 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:42.880 those freakish three techniques that another Bears are looking for far. 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:46.240 And wide at ten year NFL guard just snickered here 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.720 on our zoom call, tut there about the quickest path 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.160 to a quarterback. He took exception to that one, didn't 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:51.560 you tell me? 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:53.680 Now, it's the fact of the matter. 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.200 You know, I've been d down Street that's resulted in 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:57.560 a sack. 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.880 But I know the importance of interior play. 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.680 And you think about the Bears with Tavin Jenkins and 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:04.960 Nate Davis. 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:06.560 Are you confident or concerned? 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:07.080 So? 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.919 And you talk about the center position already, so you 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.280 know it's you know, that's three positions that you have 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.840 to take in, you know, into your thinking process going 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.240 through free agency in the draft. 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.680 No, that's the good counter as well. Those guys matter 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:20.200 a ton too. 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.679 The guard market has exploded, and it should have because 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.560 defending those guys defending Yeah, there you gow you like 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:25.880 that one. 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.240 Yeah, a little past this time, we just talked about 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.960 salaries in the NFL, and it's crazy what what even 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.440 backup quarterbacks are earning compared to what a ten year 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:37.280 NFL guard who never missed a game made back in 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.359 his day. Anyway, Brad, we appreciate the time. Hope to 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.520 have you on again. You have a lot of knowledge 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.360 and you just banged it out. Loved it, appreciate it, 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.480 Thank you, Thank you so much. Back with Mar with 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:47.080 Jim and Tom. 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.240