WEBVTT - My D*ck is Exhausted with Boom Boom "Jeff" Hiller 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:04.400 Hi, Catherine, I Chelsea. Where in the world are you 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:04.920 right now? 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:09.040 I'm in London. I'm in London. I just finished Glastonbury. 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:11.680 I still have my voice intact, I have my body 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:17.240 parts intact. It was a wild, wild ride. I'm hoping well. 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:19.239 I don't know what kind of photographs are out there, 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:21.159 but there might be. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:25.759 Some things got pretty carried away, as one can imagine. 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.640 And I had never been to Glastonbury before and now 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:34.960 I know what it's all about, and it was ridiculous. 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:37.080 It is one of those ones you hear about always 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:40.000 being like very epic, very wild, but very fun. 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:40.720 Yeah. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:44.040 I usually don't like like a music festival, just by 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.800 the nature of being outside and like the heat and 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.080 all those people, but Glastonbury just has a different ring 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.519 to it. And so I had to come up, and 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.240 I had so many friends that are going, and so yes, 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:59.120 we had a wild, wild time. And let's just say 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:00.000 I dosed a lot of people. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:00.240 People. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:04.679 Oh, fantastic, fantastic with your LLC that you're no longer traveling. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.360 I don't travel with drugs. I don't travel anywhere with drugs. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.240 I don't have drugs. I don't do drugs. It's free 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.280 as long as I'm in London. That's the story I'm 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.880 sticking to. And my name is Chelsea Handler, and I 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.119 am drug free. I only like alcohol. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.440 Excellent. Well, we have a really fun guest today. 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:21.880 I know. 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:22.759 He's so funny. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:23.200 Oh my god. 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:24.880 You guys know him from Somebody Somewhere. 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.760 He's hilarious and he has a new book that's out 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.520 and his name is well, his Instagram name is. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.480 Boom Boom Hiller, and that's what I call him during 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.520 the entire episode. But his name is Jeff Hiller. Okay, 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:37.280 we're sitting here with Jeff. I want to call you 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:37.840 boom Boom. 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:39.400 Do I want to call you boom boom because that's 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.960 your Instagram manst Okay, Boom Boom Hiller is here everybody, 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.679 for anybody who knows him on Instagram and for those 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:47.880 of you who know him from his hit show on 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.360 HBO with Bridget Everett, Somebody Somewhere, which is in its 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:52.040 third season. 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:53.840 Right, you're about to shoot your third season or is 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:54.480 it about to air? 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:55.760 The third season already aired? 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:57.520 Yeah, third season already aired. Okay. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.440 Boom Boom, otherwise known as Jeff Hill, has a new 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:05.480 book called Actress of a certain age my twenty year 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:09.480 trail to Overnight Success. This is a very very very 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.079 funny book and there's a lot of highlights, so let's 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.000 get into it first. I want to talk about your 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.079 upbringing because you grew up in Texas, Okay as a 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.399 as a gay boy man. You were yet a man, 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:27.000 right yeah, yeah, and your childhood sounded I mean, your 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.480 school experience just made me want to start a group, 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.000 like I want to start a parenting group for parents 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.960 to make sure that their children don't treat other children 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.680 so horrendously. I wonder if there are actual parents out 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.160 there that are proud of having their children be bullies. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.320 I mean there's all kinds, right, that's right. 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.320 Of course, there are all kinds, but it's just harrowing 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:52.600 to go through. I mean I was bullied. I was 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.320 a bully at certain points. Yeah, because I had to 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.240 flip the switch. I was like, fuck this shit, I'm 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:58.639 gonna be the fucking bully if you're going. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.880 To bully me. Oh my god, I think I'm I 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:04.560 think I'm feeling like support for bullies now. Yes, it's 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:05.080 so beautiful. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:06.880 Yeah, I need a support group for other bullies. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.120 Actually, that's actually what I'm trying to get at So 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.240 thank you for helping me get there. But your childhood 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.680 in school and the torturing or the teasing and the 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:20.720 bullying just sounded terrible. It was, right, I mean, and 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:23.600 when you look back at that now, what do you 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.120 think do you think it helped build character? 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:28.919 I mean, it probably did. I wouldn't say that that's 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.600 a reason to encourage it for your children, but I yeah, 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.720 I think it did. I think that's why I'm funny now. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.680 I think that was like a self coping mechanism, you know, 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.600 to try and be like, you know, like let me 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.880 make you laugh so you won't hit me. Yeah. 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:43.960 Absolutely, You're like I have to find out. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.640 Like in one scenior on the bleachers with somebody and 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.120 you're like, why do you keep kicking me? 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.320 Why? And he says it's because of the way you 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:51.600 hold your books in school. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.400 So you were because you were holding them to your 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.080 chest like a like a little girl, and so they 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.080 were making fun of you for not holding your books 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.480 to the side like the way our strong and should 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:01.800 hold his bucks exactly. 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.280 And to this day, I can't hold my I can't 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:05.880 if I ever hold myself like this, I'm like oh, 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:07.920 butch it out. You know, I have to put my hand. 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:08.840 Don't get a briefcase. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.000 You're gonna walk around holding it to your chest looking 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:11.960 like a real asshole. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:12.200 You know. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:14.880 Well, I mean when they say it builds character, it's 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.000 always like, you know, I remember going through high school 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.400 and going through those periods of time where some girl 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.000 would call me up and be like, we're gonna kick 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.000 the fucking shit out of you tomorrow, and you're like, 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.280 my mom's like it's okay, everything's gonna be I'm like, 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.000 it doesn't sound like it's gonna be okay. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:31.359 And how is this charcter character building? 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.280 Like, I don't know how it builds character because it's 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.520 it seems like a nice pat answer for when the 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:37.599 bullying is happening. 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.480 But I wonder if it really does build care. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.080 It definitely builds a resourcefulness for you. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.360 You deflect, deter, and wiggle. 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:50.080 Yeah, and I and I mean whatever. I think it's 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.520 always nice to find the silver lining, but I wouldn't 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.919 it was it was really I think I could have 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:58.720 gotten sufficient character with just you know, eighty percent. 0:04:58.560 --> 0:04:59.640 Less eighty percent less. 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.560 Yeah, when I was reading and I was traumatized for you, 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:03.760 I was like this, poor kid. 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.320 I was like, no wonder. I mean no, I mean, 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:06.760 no wonder. 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.640 I don't know what, but no wonder like this, just 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:11.119 no wonder. 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.520 You're like this absolutely. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.800 So you grew up in Texas and you fantasized about 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:20.640 becoming a pastor, but that wasn't gonna work because big o'homo. 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.760 Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And and I think, I mean, like, 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.039 thank god, I don't think I would have been happy 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:28.640 being a pastor, you know. And I feel like if 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.760 I'd been born straight, I probably would be a pastor 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.800 right now and have like, you know, a nice life, 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.160 I guess, but I think I would have I would 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:36.680 have not been able to perform in the way I 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.719 wanted to perform. So it's good. It's good I got 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:39.200 to be gay. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.799 Well, you're still a church goer though, you like church. Yeah, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.640 it's just kind of similar to your character on the show. Yes, yes, 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.599 kind of pastor like on the show as well. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.440 Yeah. Yeah, that's just a coincidence. They had written that. 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:51.520 They didn't write it for me. 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:52.120 How funny. 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.800 I know, it's not weird. Yeah yeah, yeah, that was 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:58.240 just a beautiful little coincidence. And I do like just 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.840 I don't go every Sunday or anything like that. You 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.040 don't know. And my husband's Jewish, so it's not like. 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:07.560 So there's a conflict. Well, congratulations on getting a husband. 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.800 See everything worked out for you. Okay, that's all any 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:10.960 girl needs is a husband. 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.480 It's true. It's all I've wanted since I was playing 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:14.200 with my dolls. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.119 The book talks about all sorts of things. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.400 It talks to you quote lots of different memoirs of 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.120 lots of different famous people, myself included. 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:23.200 I believe I was in there. 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:27.880 And you also go over lots of humiliating auditions and 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:29.040 on camera roles. 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.400 So let's let's start with some of those. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:36.160 What do you think was your most I find auditioning 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.880 degrading also, like I find that to be an insult 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.200 to anyone's First of all, you such beautiful teeth. I 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.000 just want to say that I'm very much into teeth 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.320 and mouths, and I like when they. 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.520 Are put together well, and yours. 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.159 I don't know if they were put together, if that 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:53.760 happened naturally, but they're nice. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:55.520 You know. I just went to the dentist and the 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.760 hygienessis was like, there's nothing to clean you must fly, 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.200 you must actually fly. And I was so proud. 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:04.400 That is something to be proud of. 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:06.240 I was like, yes, give me a star. 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:09.400 Every time I go to the dentist, she's like, oh 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:10.680 my god, when was the last time you were. I 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.520 was like, two fucking months ago, bitch, you told me 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:13.640 to come every two months. 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:15.040 And then she's liked to come. 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:17.240 Yeah, And I don't know if she's trying to host 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:18.800 me because she knows I'll just pay for it because 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.400 I care so much about dental hygiene. But she'll be like, oh, 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.160 there's a lot of plaque built up. I'm like, there's 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.960 that's impossible. I just got here two months ago. I 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.360 haven't even eaten anything since I last saw you. How 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:29.640 could it be plat build up? 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.720 That is shocking. Sometimes I actually just left one dentist 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:35.600 for another because I felt like the other dentist was 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.720 like shaking me down. It was like every time I 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:40.320 went there there was something else crazy. 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:40.880 Right. 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:42.280 You're like you need an X ray? 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.760 It's like, uh, do I I'm pretty sure my teeth 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:46.600 are set. Like, I'm not pretty sure you're not gonna 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.840 find a fucking cavity now I'm fifty. 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:52.280 Actually exactly but but then I went to this new 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:53.880 one and they were like, no, we still need an extra, 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.600 and I was like, maybe they're all shaking us down, 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.520 but I to go back to auditioning. You know what 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.440 I feel like myself was deemed is so low that 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:07.640 I'm just like, I deserve to audition. So I'm like, 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:09.920 let me dance for you. Let me dance for you, daddy. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.160 Yeah, but I mean some of your on camera work, 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.520 your early on camera work was as degrading as an audition. 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:16.280 Absolutely. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.320 Let's talk about the one in the stall where you 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.800 had to basically well, there's two scenes that I'm thinking 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:23.640 of right off the top of my head. One is 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.360 the butthole waxing the butthole, and then the second one 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:27.360 was the stall. 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:28.800 By the way, I don't want us to explain either 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:29.040 of these. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.080 I just want them to be like perfect right out there, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:36.840 I mean, elaborate please, Okay, listeners, These are fun stories 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.400 that are within the book, along with many other fun stories, 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:40.520 but I'm going to focus. 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.200 Obviously on the most humiliating aspects. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.240 Which I truly appreciate. So I got hired to be 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.760 in this sitcom that was originally supposed to be a 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:53.040 straight woman and they sold it to Logo and they're like, 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.520 can you just make the lady a homo? And they're 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:59.640 like sure. And so then one of the scenes they 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:01.720 were like, want to spice it up, make it more gay. 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.240 So I was playing an esthetician and they were like, 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.280 we're going to have you do laser hair removal on 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.880 your client's butthole while you're doing this scene. And I 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.760 was like, so I have to just stare at an 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.000 actor's bear butthole. And they're like, he'll be wearing a 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:19.560 modesty bouch and. 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:21.960 You're like, what am I going to be wearing a 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.520 fucking face mask? Who gives a shit what he's wearing. 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.040 Also, a modesty puts just covers your balls and your 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:30.920 your dick. It doesn't cover the hole. 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:35.560 So it was just like staring into an abyss. Exactly 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:37.920 what did you call it in your book? 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:38.720 A chocolate cheerio? 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:40.560 What did you leather cheerio? 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.760 I want everyone to visualize a leather cheerio and if 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.040 you can't find one, get a mirror, put it on 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.880 the ground, take your pants down, and do a squad. 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:51.360 Okay. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:53.120 Then there was. 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.520 Another scene in a bathroom where you had to simulate 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.240 you were like, you're giving a blowjob, right. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.000 I was hired as a gay hooker, and I was, yeah, 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.280 on my knees giving a blowjob. I mean, you know, 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.640 I wasn't. Actually it was for FX. 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:07.880 For the purposes of the story. 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:09.680 I would like to I would like to pretend that 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.000 you were actually giving a blowjob. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:18.040 Okay, I do anything for this job, anything. Yeah, but 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.439 I just had to yeah, stand up set, be on 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.440 my knees and hold this background actors, but you know, 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.040 like be going like this, and then I had to 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:30.000 go like peek around and say my one line. And 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.320 then they ended up not even using that footage. They 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.960 just had me come in and do audio. 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.040 They had came in and having him loop the which 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.840 adr means audio for the movie when he's not even 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.360 on camera now, and then being directed by a guy 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:44.560 that's not the director. 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.640 No, he was just like just because it was only 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.920 one line, and he was like, oh, they wanted pretty flamboyant, 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.880 and so I jokingly did it. The line was that's 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.199 just so wrong or that's just wrong, and I went 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.720 like that's just throng, and I was like joking like 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.000 like that, and he's like, give us perfect, thank you 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:03.280 when I was done. 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:03.840 Yeah. 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.840 God, it's so humiliating, right, I mean, this business is 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:07.679 so fucked up. 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:08.880 I know it is. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.360 It's unbelievable the things that people have to go through. 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.600 I mean, but also if that show had called me back, 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:14.640 I would have gone on hard. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.240 Of course, of course, you whatever if they call it. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:17.760 Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean, there's not 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.520 a lot to stop you. You talk a lot about, 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.880 you know, achieving success and how long it's taken you, 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:24.920 and that you would always kind of use as a 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.719 barometer other people's like when it was stupid. Yes, well 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.680 it's not, because I think it's very common. You know, 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.960 people have these timelines and everything. People get very rigid 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.280 about when they're going to achieve certain things in their life, 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.160 like when am I going to be successful? I remember 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.800 always looking at Jennifer Aniston that she got friends when 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:42.760 she was thirty two years old. So I related to 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.760 this part of your book because I always thought, as 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.000 long as by thirty two, if I've got my I 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.240 haven't until I'm thirty two, Like I always had that 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.360 in my head based on her success. 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.280 Yeah, which is you know, so silly and so stupid. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.240 But then I would move the lines. 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.280 Yeah, of course, because you get older and you're like, 0:11:58.320 --> 0:11:59.920 why am I still fucking waiting table? 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.240 You're like, oh my god, how long is this going 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:02.760 to go on? 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:03.320 I know? 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.800 And I was in LA for pilot season and I 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.680 heard a podcast with Megan Malaley and Nick Offerman and 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.200 they were like, we both got our shows at thirty nine. 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.440 And I was thirty nine, and I was like, I've 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.720 got one pilot season left, and of course nobody wants 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.920 to hire you when you're like, please, please hoire me. 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:20.720 I've only got this one, you see, and left. 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:24.560 Yeah, So talk about how somebody somewhere came along that 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.040 really just came right out. It came right for you, 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.360 it did. It's i mean, a perfect role for you. 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:29.760 I know. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:31.840 After reading your book, I'm like, this is kind of 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:33.520 exactly who this character is. 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.680 I know. And it was again it was like just 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.520 whatever fate. I have a not a friend a person. 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.120 I know. I write about this in the last chapter, 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:45.800 but it's like a sponsor, No, just a frind of me, 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:46.480 I think, is more of. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.439 The word front of me, okay. 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.319 Or not even a friend of me, just someone I'm like, oh, 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:51.760 what what are you? Doing anyway. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:53.720 This person told me a friend that you don't like. 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.560 It's a friend that you don't like. Let's just say 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:59.000 what it is. We all have them. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.360 This person said to me, the reason you've got your 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.600 sitcom is because your mom died and so like all 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:06.480 of her good energy went out in the world and. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:07.240 Like helped you. 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:11.240 Yeah, and part of me is like, what are you 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.240 talking about? Also, like, don't say that to people are 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:14.959 gonna kill their mom to get a sitcom. 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.280 But I do kind of feel like there is some 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.720 truth to that, because it does you mean somebody somewhere. Yeah, 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:21.640 that doesn't feel like a sitcom to me, So that's 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:22.439 where you threw me out. 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.240 That doesn't feel like a sitcom. I think. I feel 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:26.080 like sitcoms. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.480 I think of like multi cam live audience, you know 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.880 what a dream left to Well, for you it would 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:32.880 be because you're gay, But for me, that's like I 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.280 fucking hate that shit, and I love live audience because 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:39.240 I stay I'm a stand up but I I like cameras. 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:42.480 And like you're own multicam did I barely? I mean 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.160 it was it was about. 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.440 One of my books and then they forced me to 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.400 be in it, and it was just not it was 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.080 not running on all cylinders, that's for sure. That's not 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.160 my world. Like, I have to be real. I can't 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:54.080 be like that, you know. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:54.480 What I mean. 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.440 I can't be like doing things fifty times and over, 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.400 you know, like in front of a live audience, like 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:04.600 I find that very cheesy. Yeah, there's no improvisation like 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.320 I like to be able to improvise. So a SI 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:11.199 PAM is not for me. That's not my bucket. In casey, 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.520 you haven't fucking caught on. Okay. 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.200 See that's what's so great about you is you know 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:17.880 yourself so well. 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.320 Don't you know yourself well at this age? How old 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:21.000 are you right now? 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:22.200 I'm forty nine. 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.080 Okay, I'm fifty. I just turned fifty, so we're in 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:24.720 the same age. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.040 Yeah, exactly, so I would. 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:27.840 Don't you think you know yourself really well? 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:28.080 Too? 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.520 I guess I'm not as emphatic about it. 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:34.040 Do you think that you're actively learning new things about yourself? 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.280 I mean it's not as frequent that I'm learning something 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.400 you know, fairly shocking about myself as it was in 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:41.760 like your twenties or something. 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.360 But yeah, what was something that you found out about 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:45.240 yourself in your twenties. 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.880 That shocked you well that. 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.440 I was fine with rejection because I told my mom 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:51.800 I wanted to be an actor and She's like, oh, 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.280 you could never handle the rejection. I was just like okay. 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.680 And then and then I started doing it, and I 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.560 was like, this is nothing compared to getting bullied in 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:00.480 high school or whatever. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:00.760 Shit. 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.320 It was like a soft ghost where they never tell 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:04.720 me if. 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.320 I got it, yeah, fine, rather than getting hit in 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:11.000 the head with a fucking trapper keeper. Absolutely, I would 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.800 choose that any day of the week. Excuse me, I 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.320 just quiet burped just for our guests. I love that 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.400 boom Boom is your Instagram name because I call everything 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.440 a boom boom. Like when I say lower the volume, 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.560 I always go lower it one boom boom. Like if 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.960 I'm talking to someone about a remote, I always say, oh, 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:27.800 did you like if someone farts, ago, is that a boom? 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:28.840 Did you make a boom boom? 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.080 And I mean boom boom is applicable to like if 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.400 my brass strap is like, I'll say, like, can you 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:35.600 like tighten it? 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.520 Like if they're getting me dressed, I'll say, can you 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:38.600 tighten it? One boom boom? 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.920 Like I use boom boom all the time. So I 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.360 just love that that's your Instagram name. That was first 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.760 drew me to you. 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:47.880 Well, I feel like when I started it it was 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.280 because whenever anybody would say anything slightly sexy, I'd be like, 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:52.680 boom boom. 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.000