1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Disneyland for a moment, or a few moments. Actually, 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I went to Disneyland. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: It's cost prohibitive now, but I do remember. It was 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: a very, i will say, serene experience. Didn't have to 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: worry about any foolishness, didn't have to worry about any 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: fights breaking out. I worried most about if I had 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: enough money to pay for the food for me and 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: whoever else I happened to be there with. That was 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: my main concern. But stuff has changed in the intervening years, 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: and we see more and more videos and accounts of 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: violence at Disneyland and disney World for that matter. To wit, 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Disneyland has issued a courtesy notice regarding fights. Quote. We 13 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: ask all who come to this happy place to treat 14 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: others with respect, kind and compassion. To help guests have 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: a safe and enjoyable experience, we regularly update our Disneyland 16 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: resort rules close quote. Now, I don't know if a 17 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: courtesy notice is going to change individual behavior or behavior 18 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: in general, but I do know that the whole feeling 19 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: of Disney in a theme park experience is very different 20 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: than maybe five ten years ago. I never thought of 21 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: a fight breaking out, much less with any regularity at 22 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: one of the theme parks now back in the day, 23 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: at least as far as young people go. And I'm 24 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: gonna blame young people for this. When I say young people, 25 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: I want to say under the age of thirty. Back 26 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: in the day, we the young folks went to Magic Mountain. 27 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: We went to knots very far. We didn't go to Disneyland. 28 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: The only time we went to Disneyland was for either 29 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: like a gradnight thing or it was a couple thing, 30 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: me and my girlfriend. That was it. Maybe grad night though, yeah, yeah, 31 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: it was not something that we sought out to do. 32 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: And I think that has changed because for the young person, 33 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: especially if we were trying to find girls to pick up, 34 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: it was Magic Mountain. That was what being and the 35 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: fellas did. We went to Magic Mountain and trying to 36 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: find other girls there. But it wasn't Disneyland. That was 37 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: for family, that was for couples, that was for not us. 38 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: Wasn't magic Wasn't Magic Mountain almost shut down because of 39 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: gang violence. As I was saying, we went to Magic 40 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: Mountain because that catered to a younger crowd. Ride enthusiasts, 41 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: just folks from fifteen to thirty, I would say, I 42 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: mean back in the day when we were going to 43 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: Magic Mountain, they used to have hip hop and R 44 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: and B performers that would best be showing update they 45 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: would actually have a draw there. The last time they 46 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: did that was the infamous TLC riot that happened there 47 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: when they were supposed perform. That was like the last 48 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: time that they had a no known hip hop or 49 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: R and B act at Magic Mountain. But they made 50 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: the conscious decision to feature live entertainment which would pull 51 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: certain age groups in. Yep, yep. And that's part of 52 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: the reason I think people we gravitated to that ride 53 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: park knots very Farm, not so much because they were 54 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: just fewer rides, but we still went there more so 55 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: than Disneyland. And with this courtesy notice, it just tells 56 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: you that there's been a shift obviously in our behavior, 57 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: but also a shift in the people who go to Disneyland. 58 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: If I spend all that money to go to Disneyland, 59 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that would, but if I did, 60 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm not getting in a fight. I'll tell you this though. 61 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: And having just gone to Disneyland recently with my family. 62 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: One thing I didn't notice, and I saw this as 63 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: being a reason why people do get into fights. They 64 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: now are selling liquor at Disneyland. I didn't know that, Yes, 65 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: they sell liquor. And I did witness more than a 66 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: few people in line acting drunk, being rude, talking crazy, 67 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: and I saw instances where I said, and I remember 68 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: telling my daughter, if this dude comes over here and 69 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: says anything to us, because he was just being belligerent 70 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: and just talking crazy, and yad, hey, look live your life. 71 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: You're having fun, but if you come over here, we're 72 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: going to have a fight. And I remember thinking that clearly, 73 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: like this dude is already a problem in that. And 74 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: Disney security I saw them come over to this gentleman 75 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: and talking to him and he was like, Wow, I'm 76 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: just having fun, blah blah blah, And I'm like, how 77 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: are you drunk at Disneyland? Eric, You and I go 78 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: to sporting events and we already know when you introduce 79 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: alcohol into any quote unquote entertainment situation or arena, no 80 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: pun intended, bad things happened. And I believe up until 81 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: the debut of the New Star wars Land. In Disneyland, 82 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: the only place you could get alcohol at Disneyland was 83 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: Club thirty three, or you'd have to go across to 84 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: California Adventure. So this is very new territory for Disneyland. 85 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: It's almost like you have to know that once you 86 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: open that door and start selling alcohol, this is inevitable. 87 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: Oh it's Pandora's box. But you can't go back though, 88 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: No you can't. I don't know if it was a 89 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: purely financial decision or were they trying to make Going 90 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: back to my original comments, were they trying to make 91 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: Disneyland more attract to people more than just families. I 92 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: would say they probably were, because I think at least 93 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: from people my generation. I know a bunch of people 94 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: my age that have Disney passes and that have gotten 95 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: them since they've been able to afford them and pay 96 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: for them themselves. They can afford them. Hey, they got 97 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: the base package, not the top of the tier, all right. 98 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: But either way, I do think they are trying to 99 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: cater to different audiences more than just the family, to 100 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: get more people in the park. I mean, I was 101 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: like Tulla at Disneyland recently over the summer, and if 102 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. The park got the capacity that day 103 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: and they stopped letting people in, so they're definitely trying 104 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: to cater to as many people as possible. I think now, well, 105 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: when we come back, as we talk about the cost 106 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: of Disneyland and also the experience at Disneyland, it makes 107 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: you wonder why anyone would go into debt just so 108 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: they could go to Disneyland or Disney World. We'll talk 109 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: about that. People are John and Ken show k IF. 110 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: I am six forty, I'm O'Kelly. We're live everywhere on 111 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. Now to Mark Ronner in the KFI 112 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: twenty four hour newsroom. I was talking about how, at 113 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: least from my outsider's view, Disneyland had changed in terms 114 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: of what it was offering type of clientele, if you will, 115 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: in the overall experience, saying nothing of the price hikes 116 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: which are every year, and it just seemed like a 117 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: very different place. I'd never even conceived of the idea 118 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: of Disney anything related to Disney theme parks being a 119 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: place where fights would be more and more common. And 120 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I'm quite sure that it is 121 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: a reflection of our more violent culture in a general sense, 122 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: I think there's commentary there, but also specifically, as we 123 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: were discussing the introduction or inclusion of alcohol in a 124 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: theme park where historically it was not there. That has 125 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: to be part of the equation. And before the break, 126 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: I was teasing how there are families, maybe you're one 127 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: of them, who are taking Disney vacations and having to 128 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: go into debt. It could be taking out a loan. 129 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: It could be exorbitant credit card charges and you're paying 130 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: that off over the course of years. It could be 131 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: any number of ways. But we all know that it's 132 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: very expensive to do a full blown Disney vacation. And 133 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: what I mean by that is, imagine that you lived 134 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: outside of the Los Angeles area and it's two parents 135 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: and maybe two kids, and you're going to come to 136 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: Anaheim and you're going to stay a couple of nights 137 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: in a Disneyland hotel or something like that. Imagine how 138 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: much that may cost. Well, let me help you so 139 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: you don't have to imagine as much. According to an 140 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: analysis by mouse Hacking, a Disney Focus blog, the cost 141 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: of a Disney World vacation for a family of four, 142 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: two adults, one child aged ten or older and one 143 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: child aged three to nine was five thousand, seven hundred 144 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: dollars last year, about two hundred and eighty seven dollars 145 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: per person per night. That's the Disney World, and I'm 146 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: quite sure it's very close to that here in southern 147 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: California Disneyland. And Eric, you were telling the story during 148 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: the break, and I want you to tell it again. 149 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: How your grandparents would take everybody and their mama literally 150 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: to Disneyland. How how I have no idea. My grandparents 151 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: clearly are very good savers, because if they weren't good savers, 152 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: we wouldn't have done this tradition year after year after year. 153 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: But at the time they lived in Tustin, which is 154 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: about twenty minutes away from Disneyland. But they would every summer, 155 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: especially once my mom's two brothers and their families my 156 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: cousins they moved to the East Coast, when they would 157 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: come back for their yearly trip to see Grandma and Grandpa. 158 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: Over the summer, we would all do a big Disneyland trip, 159 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: all sixteen of us, sixteen, yes, sixteen of us the 160 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: same day. My grandparents, my mom, her two brothers, spouses, kids, 161 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: eight grandchildren, I'm the oldest of eight, So yeah, I 162 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: mean we would go to Disneyland every year, and I 163 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: believe this summer it was a much smaller group. There 164 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: was about six of us, just based off of scheduling 165 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: and all that type of stuff. But I believe this 166 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: year was the last year of that tradition. I can 167 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: see why. Yeah, but no, I mean, I am very 168 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: lucky to have had grandparents that were able to afford 169 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: doing this kind of thing for us every year. To 170 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: wallet you recently went to Disneyland, and I say that 171 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: because it's not just one park, it could be multiple parks. Yep, 172 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: it was you, your ex wife. You refer to our kids, 173 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: two kids and kids, my brother, his girlfriend, and my 174 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: niece the onliest way, and then make sure that everyone 175 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: is clear on this. The only way that this happened 176 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: is because my brother's girlfriend happens to work at disney Land. 177 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: You got a little bit of a hook up. There 178 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: was definitely a hook up, and going to California Adventure 179 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: was a part of our iHeart Coast Christmas party and 180 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: so hey, we made a day of it. But looking 181 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: at the cost of that, that falls under the hell no, 182 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: had it been out of either my pocket or our 183 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: co parents pocket this close to Christmas. And let me 184 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: tell you, that park was packed. So I was just 185 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: tripping off of how many people were there. But going 186 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: back to the conversation about the Curtis, see noticed on 187 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: fights there were so many young people there, no parents, 188 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: no kids, just young people. I'm talking between the ages 189 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: of i'd say sixteen to twenty one, just in groups 190 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: by themselves. Who has it? Who is it? Who has 191 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: the chaperone policy? Is that nots very farm? Now I 192 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: believe it's okay? Yep. Do you guys remember that big 193 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: viral fight in Tunetown? Yes, between and I believe it 194 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: was between a family fighting its own family. Yes, yes, yeah, 195 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: so that I mean that wild And I don't think 196 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: you can go back. I think you're going to see 197 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: more of that. And we started talking about this this 198 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: segment relative to families going into debt trying to finance 199 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: these Disney vacations, There's no way in hell I would. Now. 200 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: I understand how people will spend more money if they're 201 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: going on a vacation, but Disney everything is more expensive. 202 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: It's not like they're going to a city and then 203 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: just taking in a few sights. They're going to one 204 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: particular location one and a half days maybe, Yeah, and 205 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: every day you're spending Google gobs of money. That fifty 206 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: eight hundred dollars I was telling you about that would 207 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: get you a high class seven day cruise, one of 208 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: the best cabins. Seven days. Yes, and this is just 209 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: maybe a day or two at Disneyland for you and 210 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: three of your family members. Yeah, yeah, I know. My 211 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: co parent. I know only because look, because I don't 212 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: want to put her business out there. But one summer, 213 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: my co parent took our kids to Disney World and 214 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: that was a grip. Okay, it was a lot. The 215 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: next summer took them on a cruise and they stopped 216 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: at one of the Disney ports or whatever like. It 217 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: was like a Disney cruise. The cruise, by all accounts, 218 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: was cheaper than going into Disney World and probably better experience. Yes, 219 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: much better. I'm talking. They're swimming with dolphins there. They 220 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: had the time of their life on this Disney cruise, 221 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: even going to Disney Island and doing whatever the hell 222 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: they did there. They loved it. Cheaper a cruise, five 223 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: day cruise, cheaper than going to Disney World. Mark You're 224 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: not someone who's from southern California, so I would love 225 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: your when I say outsider's view, just someone who's not 226 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: from here. How you look upon Disneyland and what you 227 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: be willing to spend conceivably for a Disneyland trip from 228 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest, Well the answer is zero. I'm not 229 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: into that, but I'm not about to dump on people 230 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: who are into it, because three years into a pandemic, 231 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: you do whatever it takes to keep yourself your morale up. 232 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we know Amy King here goes to Disneyland 233 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: all the time, yep. I mean my thing when it's 234 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: safe is to go to cult movies if there's one 235 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: playing in a theater, you know, because I'm a big 236 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: movie nerd. But I wouldn't go to Disneyland if it 237 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: was free. To tell you the truth, It's just not 238 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: in my bag. But see, there is something to be 239 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: said for the type of experience and quality of experience, 240 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: saying nothing of the money you have to pay, like 241 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: you say you want to go see cult movies, like 242 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: for example, I don't like going to physical theaters, brick 243 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: and mortar theaters anymore because of these same individuals who 244 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: probably are going to Disneyland and starting fights who are 245 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: kicking the back of my chair talking through the movie 246 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: and so forth. The quality of experience, regardless of the 247 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: costs incurred, is important. Now, that's an excellent point, and 248 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: that's where they kind of intersect, where whether it's nerd 249 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: movies like mine or Disneyland, more and more you encounter 250 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: rude people, rude, possibly drunk, possibly armed people, and it 251 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: really takes the fun out of things because you know, 252 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: if somebody's kicking your seat talking too loud, you're going 253 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: to say something to them. Maybe escalates from there, I know, 254 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: huh yeah, something gentle and play, you know, Like not 255 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: very long ago, there was some younger people sitting behind 256 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: me in a movie and they wouldn't shut up. I 257 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: asked them to please be quiet. They wouldn't. I turned 258 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: around a few minutes later and I'm point at them 259 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: and I say, you stop talking now. And that was 260 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: the end of it, because you know what was going 261 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: to happen next. But things have changed so quickly, and 262 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: there's something that's been happening, I think, especially in the 263 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: United States, where people are just much more likely to 264 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: resort to violence over road rage stuff. The stuff we 265 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: report every day, you hear about it more and more, 266 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: and so it does take a lot of the appeal 267 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: out of going out and doing public stuff that we 268 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: used to love. This is the John and Ken Show. 269 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: Mokelly here k if, I am six forty. We're live 270 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: everywhere on the iHeartRadio app Let's finish up this hour 271 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: and the show with some movie talk. Now. Yesterday we 272 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time talking about Avatar the Way 273 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: of Water, and I know in the news department they've 274 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: told the information. I call it information. I'm not so 275 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: sure I believe it regarding Avatar crossing the billion dollar 276 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: mark worldwide, and I find it strange. I'm not a 277 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist, but I do know something about the entertainment 278 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: industry and how they work numbers. I find it strange 279 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: how a movie and twayubate this point originally, and I'm 280 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: going to amplify it. I fight it strange how a 281 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: movie created in America through the American distribution system, movie 282 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: theaters and so forth, does poorly in America because it's 283 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: not doing well in America, yet is received three times 284 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: better internationally. Now, I may not know as much movie 285 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: history as Mark Ronner, But I can't think of another 286 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: movie which has a similar growth trajectory. Well, you had 287 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: a life, you got outside. But I'm looking at the 288 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: numbers right now. Three hundred and seventeen million domestically, seven 289 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: hundred twelve million internationally. Times that's through a movie. It's 290 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: three hours and twelve minutes. Can you even imagine that? Yeah, 291 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: that's not really that does seem possible? How does How 292 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: does the US film with no ties to China? I 293 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: understand if this was Transformers filmed in China makes sense. 294 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: If this was Shangshi where a lot of it was 295 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: shot in China. There are certain film companies that films 296 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: specifically in Asia in certain parts to make sure that 297 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: it has a big international push, which was one of 298 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: the reasons why the Fast and Furious franchise had just 299 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: took off overseas, but its numbers US were comparable. You 300 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: don't double your overseas numbers when the film was released simultaneously. Okay, 301 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: It's not like it was released in the US and 302 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: then overseas and then it took off. No, that doesn't 303 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: make sense. I'm telling you, we're gonna see something come 304 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: out where where this film company is either buying tickets 305 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: or doing something duplicit this. With these numbers, you could 306 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: be right, But I have two words that might alter 307 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: your thinking on this. Are you ready for them? Mister bean? 308 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: I think that movies like this that are heavily visual 309 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: and not so much verbal, they really appeal to broad 310 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: international audiences in ways that just baffle those of us 311 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: who are thinking in like intelligent movies. And I say 312 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: that as a slam on the first one. I don't 313 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: have any interest in the second one. But I finally 314 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: saw the first one a couple of years ago, and 315 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: I was just I was astonished at how stupid it was. 316 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: It is astonishingly bad. Yeah. Yeah, but it's the mister 317 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: Bean phenomenon of something that really has primarily just a 318 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: visual component to it. I mean, nobody's raving about the 319 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: story itself for nobody. That's what I'm saying, nobody. I'm 320 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: trying to figure out there is a mathematical quotient to this, 321 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: where a three hour and twelve minute movie has fewer 322 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: showings point blank into discussion. So I'm not so sure 323 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: that they've even had enough viewings outside the US to 324 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: a mass seven hundred million dollars worth of box office receipts. 325 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: It's a rough winner. Maybe people just want to be 326 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: inside for three hours and fifteen minutes. But if you 327 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: came to the theater like in Buffalo, I mean, you know, 328 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: I don't look. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I 329 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: know enough about the industry to say this is more 330 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: than odd and unusual. There's not really a precedent for it. 331 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: Maybe not, but if the First Avatar was the most 332 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: profitable movie in history, which just it depresses me thinking 333 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: about all the other movies that should have made it. 334 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: If that was, why not this one? Because there we 335 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: can point to other box office worldwide phenomenon blockbusters which 336 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: did not grow like this. Be at any of the 337 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: Star Wars movies which were also released in China. I mean, 338 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: there are too many other movies that we can point 339 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: to which had more of a one to one US 340 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: to international ratio as opposed to one to two and 341 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: a half for an American made movie. That just doesn't 342 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: make sense. So you're a conspiracy theorist on this one. 343 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: Narrow though. The questions I would love to have answered 344 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: A lot of it always just questions, isn't it no, No No, no, 345 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no. A conspiracy theorist will I will 346 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: try to ascribe motive and reason and try to put 347 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: some puzzle together. I'm saying it doesn't make sense not 348 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: buying it. So are you basically saying that, like James Cameron, 349 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: the studio or whoever associated with Avatar is out there 350 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: buying extra tickets and stuff and I'm not going to 351 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: see it. I will say this. I will say this. 352 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: I know in the music industry where I worked at 353 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: exactly where I was going, and a number of Strea companies, 354 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: stream farms, the stream not only day they were records. 355 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: We were buying actual CDs and cassettes whatever, going to 356 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: various warehouse, Sam Goody, music Land. We had people physically 357 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: buying it. And we were also being funny with the 358 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: numbers that we were reported to sound scared, yes, because 359 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: we wanted to be number one on the charts. I've 360 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: seen rappers themselves go to Best Buy and Target and 361 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: buy fifty copies there. It happens all the time. It 362 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: happens around a wartime, it happens when you're trying to 363 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: impact a record. All of that was commonplace to say 364 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: that it doesn't also happen in the entertainment industry as 365 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: far as films go. Is just the most ignorant thing 366 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: that I could imagine someone saying that's impossible. No one's 367 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: gonna do that. I promise you they would. This is 368 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: a film that no one was asking for. That is 369 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: ten plus years after an original film. To Mark's point, 370 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: which no one actually liked. There was no heat behind 371 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: this movie. None, none, people. The only heat behind it 372 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: was a question mark that said, why why do we 373 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: need to go back to this? The original story wasn't good. 374 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: A three D technology is now old hat. There's nothing 375 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: new happening in this film. You're not walking through the 376 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: theater splashing people in the face with water. It's not 377 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: like that. It's not strek universal states like this is 378 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: just I'm sorry to be so hard on this film. 379 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: I just don't believe it. I have I don't believe it. 380 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: I questioned some of the international markets that they would 381 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: skip over a lot of other movies to show this 382 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: particular movie. In the US, that's one thing, but all 383 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: these other markets around the world, including China, I got questions. 384 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: I would love to see the individual theater layout and 385 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: some of the numbers which are being returned on this 386 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: movie in the past ten days because it was released 387 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: internationally after the United States, and international is two and 388 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: a half times that of the United States. Is that 389 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: much of a hit? Really? In ten days? I got questions, 390 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: Maybe we're the ones who are out of touch. Maybe 391 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: someone's gonna have to explain it to me. I'm out 392 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: of testing. Yeah, I'm super out of touch. But even 393 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: in that mark, there's a hint of I understand where 394 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: you're coming from and what you're saying. Listen, nobody's more 395 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: disappointed than me that stupid stuff is successful, Okay, I 396 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: mean it's just it's really I mean, you mentioned the 397 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: Star Wars movies. Those J J Abrams Star Wars movies 398 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: were just flat out idiotic, and not only that, they 399 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: were an insult to anybody who grew up like in 400 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: Star Wars. But you know, they made money. And so 401 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: it turns out I was the you know, insert curse 402 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: word here, but the but the growth of the Star 403 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: Wars movies as far as the box office sales, did 404 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: not grow in this way. I'm just saying. I mean, look, 405 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: this film goes from fourteen million to twenty nine million 406 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: in a day, and that's on Christmas Day. You're telling 407 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: me that there were that many people who went out 408 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: on Christmas Day. On Christmas Day, I know plenty of 409 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: people that went out on Christmas Day to go see 410 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 1: a movie and eat some Chinese food. Where is Leonard Nimoy? 411 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: And in the in search of crew when you need 412 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: to get answers, we need answers, Johnny Kenchok if I 413 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: am six forty, we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 414 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but there are some things 415 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: which don't make sense to me, and I would love 416 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: someone who's connected to the movie or connected to distribution 417 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: to be able to at least explain it to me 418 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: so I understand it better as someone who has worked 419 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: in the entertainment industry. And before the break, we were 420 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: saying how Avatar The Way of Water reached a billion 421 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 1: dollars worldwide and seventy percent of that is from the 422 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: international market in which it was released after the US 423 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: A film which was made in the US, A US 424 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: movie that doesn't happen, that has never happened as far 425 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: as I know, to my knowledge, and for it to 426 00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: happen now and under these circumstances. It just seems strange. Like, 427 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: for example, we mentioned China, China is only responsible and 428 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: this is according to the box office Mojo, China is 429 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: only responsible for one hundred and four million dollars gross. Okay, First, 430 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: China's been under lockdown, COVID lockdown. Okay. So I don't 431 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: know how all these people are getting to see this 432 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: movie because it did fifty six million in its first 433 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: week fifty six million, and there was no drop off 434 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: basically to the second week period. That doesn't happen. Did 435 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: you say South Korea was on that lift? South Korea? 436 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: Fifty three million people, fifty three million dollars in gross 437 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: revenue from South Korea, the same South Korea that's under 438 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: the exact same strict COVID restrictions right now. Well, and 439 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: they're also worried about North Korean missiles another how about that? 440 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: How about that? Doesn't seem like you're going to a 441 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: movies during this time. It just doesn't make sense. Mexico 442 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: reported twenty eight million. I I don't want to call bs, 443 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: but the whole idea, the whole idea that sixty million 444 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: dollars of this billion came from France thirty six million Germany, 445 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: thirty three million United Kingdom. Okay, maybe the movie is 446 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: a hit in Europe, but it just seems very odd 447 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: and unlikely the way that it would be such a 448 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: massive super hit there but not here, and that you've 449 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: included the Chinese market, and the Chinese market is not 450 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: even playing a major role in it getting to a billion, 451 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: to only ten percent of the total grosses ten percent. 452 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: This isn't adding up. It's not adding Someone is not 453 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: going to see this movie for it to be at 454 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: a billion right now. Tell me this, Tell me a 455 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: movie in which you have the United States only responsible 456 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: for thirty percent, China responsible for forty percent, and the 457 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: other sixty percent having nothing to do with the US 458 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: or China making a movie a billion dollars, especially considering 459 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: right now, and I'm looking at Deadline and how the 460 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: French right now are really mulling over the idea of 461 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: giving US based films a wide theatrical release, which is 462 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: why a lot of the Marvel movies did not get 463 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: a theatrical cor release. Telling me they don't even have 464 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: a wide release in parent in France because they actually 465 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: said to Marvel or to Disney, we're not going to 466 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: be showing your Marvel films. Why then would they turn 467 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: around and show Avatar, which is also a company his 468 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: knee property, same company that's not heading up. I just 469 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: got questions. It just doesn't make sense. The movie in France, 470 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: to your point, was released on December fourteenth. It has 471 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: since grows sixty million dollars in France. Here's here's the proof. 472 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: You know, the widest release that this movie supposedly a 473 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 1: gross sixty million dollars. The widest release seven hundred and 474 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: sixty two theaters. No, No, that's mathematically not possible. That's 475 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: not because the movie is three hours and twelve minutes long, 476 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: seven hundred. Let me just give you some some comparative analysis. 477 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: A wide release in the US is usually about about 478 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: forty three hundred theaters, anywhere from forty three to forty 479 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: seven hundred theaters. And you're saying one seventh of that 480 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: has generated sixty million dollars in receipts in two weeks. 481 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: There's not does it work? That's a purse screen average. 482 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I like I'm a million. They're busted. 483 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is they're gonna have to answer for 484 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: this this film company. I look, I get it. You 485 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: did not want egg on your face. You did not 486 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: want to catch it l You wanted to try to 487 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: end on a high note and prove that maybe James 488 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: Cameron was right that every movie doesn't have to be 489 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: a superhero film. Whatever. When it comes out that you 490 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: all were being funny with the math on this, you 491 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: will go down as the biggest laughing stock in Hollywood history. 492 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: Here's some another comparison point, and it actually makes our point. 493 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: In South Korea, its widest release for fifty three million dollars, 494 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: it was shown on twenty eight hundred theaters screens twenty 495 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: eight hundred that is more believable than seven hundred, generating 496 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: even more revenue. Yes, I'm not saying, but I'm just saying. 497 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: And if it when it comes out, I'm gonna claim 498 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: all credit because somebody needs to explain to me. Let 499 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: me just look at Mexico real quick, and Mexico is 500 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: claiming twenty eight million dollars in receipts. They don't even 501 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 1: list how many theaters it will show them, so that's 502 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: already questionable. Let me check India because that is a large, 503 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: populous market and they're claiming thirty nine million dollars in 504 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: gross receipts in a listed number of theaters. What about 505 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia or Qatar? Let me see, I have to 506 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: find it. I'm just thinking since the movie was released, 507 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: what December fourteenth? The World Cup final was December eighteenth, 508 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: maybe some tourists wanted to go see a movie in Qatar. 509 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: I can't. They're not even listed here in the Europe, 510 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: Middle East and Africa, Saudi Arabia. All they have is 511 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: United Arab Emirates in a regional sense, So Saudi Arabia 512 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: is not listed, Qatar is not listed. In other words, 513 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: it's being shown in fewer places. I don't get it. 514 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: I don't get it. Let me look at like Germany, 515 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: they're saying thirty six million dollars in receipts in fourteen days. 516 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: They don't list a number of theaters. But the glaring 517 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: one is France, where you only have seven hundred and 518 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: sixty theaters, but you're claiming sixty million dollars in gross receipts. 519 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: That's just fundamentally not possible. It just isn't well. Coming 520 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: up next is the Tim Conway Junior Show. Is where 521 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: is Mark where is Mark Thompson? Isn't he here? I 522 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: know he's filling in for Tim Crozier, yelled down the 523 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: hall again. Turn on your mics so we can hear 524 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: you though he heard me. Okay, he said, no, that's 525 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: for all I know. I heard me. Tim Conway Junior 526 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: show coming up next. We'll see you tomorrow. This is 527 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: the Johnny Kin Show, CAF. I am six or wait 528 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait here he is. I'm sorry option 529 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: some rerun of a game show out there, and I 530 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: got really into it. I was getting ready to lock out. 531 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: What's coming upright? Man? I really am I I'm mostly 532 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: just to say happy New Year to you. We have 533 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: a great show. We have Sam Rubin joining to talk 534 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: about the changing face of Hollywood. Maybe would you could 535 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: say the fall of Hollywood? Oh oh yeah, that sounds ominous. 536 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah it does. That's click baity a little bit, 537 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: but it's kind of true. You know. We kind of 538 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: work in Hollywood, so I know, and that's why I 539 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: think people will it will resonate with them. Are you 540 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: familiar with that, the resonation? Yes, I think they're going 541 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: to be resonating tonight. Seriously, there are big changes in 542 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: Hollywood and for the New Year, Sam and I will 543 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: discuss them. Also big Weather for New Year's Eve. Rick 544 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: Dicker from Channel eleven's going to be through. I have 545 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: the Game of Games tonight that has to do with 546 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: New Year's as well, and we'll play it in the 547 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 1: eight o'clock hour. It's a big show. MoMA, let's hit 548 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: this O baby bits you, let's get it off. Sam 549 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: Timeway Junior Show coming up with Mark Thompson k if 550 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: I AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.