Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dutz Saron Burnett over there just hanging out.
Speaker 3: I don't really want to know what you know, what's ridiculous?
Speaker 3: I do what I want?
Speaker 2: You sit down? Can you listen to this?
Speaker 3: I'm seated.
Speaker 2: It has to do with cocaine. One of your favorite topics, Uh,
Speaker 2: Brazil and sharks.
Speaker 3: Oh, we got this.
Speaker 2: From like a ton of people sent us these articles.
Speaker 2: Apparently researchers in Brazil. They went out and they caught
Speaker 2: thirteen sharks. That's not a big sample set, but whatever.
Speaker 2: All of them had high concentrations of unfiltered cocaine in
Speaker 2: their systems. The level of cocaine. The level of cocaine
Speaker 2: found in these sharks were reported to be as much
Speaker 2: as one hundred times higher than in previously observed marine.
Speaker 3: Life Sharknado four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all these Brazilian sharks and it's like off
Speaker 2: the coast of Rheo Dejanio and apparently it's like in
Speaker 2: their watershed there. So what it tells me is a
Speaker 2: lot a lot of police busts were people are like, oh,
Speaker 2: we gotta flush it.
Speaker 3: That's what that tells you.
Speaker 2: And then it goes out into the water.
Speaker 3: It could work. Yeah, I'm into that.
Speaker 2: And it hasn't like metabolized or someone's system.
Speaker 3: That's true. That is true.
Speaker 2: So it's like the stuff that people flush because the
Speaker 2: cops are at the door. I'm with that, okay. And
Speaker 2: you know what, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: That is totally ridiculous. It is cocaine Bear. Four. Yes,
Speaker 3: Sharknado meets cocaine Bear.
Speaker 2: And then they fall in love with a hippo.
Speaker 3: With one of the cocaine. It's like, can't we all
Speaker 3: just be in love? And I was like, we all
Speaker 3: have coke, you know, so let's do this.
Speaker 2: It's just like a crazy coke fueled interspecies.
Speaker 3: Elizabeth, Yes, did you know this week is? Yes, not today,
Speaker 3: but this some point later this week will be August eighth.
Speaker 3: Sure you ad August eight?
Speaker 2: This it is the eighth day of August.
Speaker 3: Good job. It's also the fiftieth anniversary of the resignation
Speaker 3: of President Richard Nixon. Oh, which is the climax of
Speaker 3: one of my favorite crimes of all time. Well, Elizabeth,
Speaker 3: you're ready to hear the story of Richard Nixon and Watergate?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Am, I buckle up.
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Speaker 3: Heiss and cons. It's always ninety percent motor three and
Speaker 3: one percent ridiculous Nixon. Elizabeth, I imagine you know the basics
Speaker 3: about the Watergates Cammel.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe most folks know that there was a break
Speaker 3: in at the Watergate Hotel. They know I had something
Speaker 3: to do with Richard Nixon and like either his re
Speaker 3: election campaign or if you know what bit more of
Speaker 3: the committee to re elect the president aka creep. Most
Speaker 3: folks have heard of Woodward and Bernstein, right, do you imagine?
Speaker 3: Do you think people know deep Throat?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think probably more than would know Woodward in Bernstein.
Speaker 3: You think, well, I mean, yeah, I don't know. That's
Speaker 3: why I'm asking you. I don't so, but I just
Speaker 3: want to tell you, Elizabeth, this story goes so much further,
Speaker 3: and it's so damn ridiculous. So I'm just gonna tell
Speaker 3: you all the highlights of Watergate Crime. Excellent, Okay, Now
Speaker 3: for research, I watched All the President's Men. That's all
Speaker 3: I did. Great, I watched it, and I'm kidding. I
Speaker 3: also watched that Oliver Stone movie Nixon. Okay, no, I
Speaker 3: didn't watch that one actually, but whatever thrill I know, right,
Speaker 3: I'm lying like my man Nixon, just right out the gate.
Speaker 3: So let's get into some American history. Yes on the
Speaker 3: morning of June eighteenth, nineteen seventy two, inside the Sunday
Speaker 3: morning edition of the Washington Post, there's this news story
Speaker 3: written by veteran crime reporter Alfred E. Lewis. The story
Speaker 3: runs on the front page. A little story, though, runs
Speaker 3: on the front page, and it says, quote, five men,
Speaker 3: one of whom said he is a former employee of
Speaker 3: the Central Intelligence Agency, were arrested at two thirty am
Speaker 3: yesterday and what authorities described as an elaborate plot to
Speaker 3: bug the officers of the Democratic National Committee here here
Speaker 3: being Washington DC. Yeah, that's not all, Elizabeth Old Vett
Speaker 3: reporter Alfred E. Lewis. He included particularly interesting revelations such
Speaker 3: as and I quote, police said the men had with
Speaker 3: them at least two sophisticated devices capable of picking up
Speaker 3: and transmitting oral and telephone conversations. In addition, police found
Speaker 3: lock picks and door Jimmy's also twenty three hundred dollars
Speaker 3: in cash, most of it in one hundred dollars bills
Speaker 3: with the serial numbers in sequence. The men also had
Speaker 3: with them one walkie tucky, a short wave receiver, forty
Speaker 3: rolls of unexposed film, and two thirty five millimeter cameras.
Speaker 2: And one of the guys is like, look, it's cool,
Speaker 2: I'm in the CIA. I thought they didn't go around
Speaker 2: telling people they were.
Speaker 3: One would think that, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The men they all get a rando in court that
Speaker 3: same Saturday night, right down out, total down.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So when asked what they do for a living, one
Speaker 3: of the five burglars he tells the judge that they are, quote,
Speaker 3: we're all anti communists.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 3: Judge's like, okay, Now, it turns out it's pretty much
Speaker 3: exactly true. It's one of the few times people are like, no,
Speaker 3: that's what I do for a living. I am an
Speaker 3: anti communist. Yeah. The five men were Edward Martin of
Speaker 3: New York. He was the recently retired CIA agent who
Speaker 3: is now a security consultant, and that was not his
Speaker 3: real name. His real name was James McCord. So there
Speaker 3: was also Frank Sturgis of Miami. He is a man
Speaker 3: who shows up in all sorts of things, like allegations
Speaker 3: about the GfK assassination anyway, former Cuban military intelligence officer.
Speaker 3: There is Uhennio R. Martinez of Miami, a licensed real
Speaker 3: estate agent and notary public in Florida.
Speaker 2: That's handy.
Speaker 3: There's Verhelio R. Gonzalez of Miami, described as quote a
Speaker 3: pro American anti Castro locksmith. And lastly there was Bernard L. Barker,
Speaker 3: also of Miami, whose wife set her husband told her
Speaker 3: to call his lawyer quote if he hadn't called her
Speaker 3: by three am, that it might mean he was in
Speaker 3: trouble Elizabeth. He was one hundred percent in trouble. So
Speaker 3: what happens next is this is the Watergate break in Elizabeth.
Speaker 3: Do you know the name G. Gordon Liddy?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: I do? Yeah, right, I figured you do. He's a
Speaker 3: wild figure. And just to run through some of his
Speaker 3: bona fides if he will, as a spy guy. When
Speaker 3: he was just twenty nine years old, G. Gordon Lady
Speaker 3: became the youngest bureau chief for the FBI headquarters at Washington, DC.
Speaker 2: How old was he?
Speaker 3: Twenty nine? This brings him into Jay Hoover's whole realm. Right,
Speaker 3: he gets brought into the Hoover Inner Circle. He gets
Speaker 3: so close to Hoover he becomes his ghost rider ghost
Speaker 3: Ride the Whip.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now sixty two g Gordon Liddy. He leaves the FBI
Speaker 3: becomes a patent attorney for his father. Why it seems
Speaker 3: like there's a story there, like the FBI to go
Speaker 3: become a patent attorney. It's kind of like, Man, I'm
Speaker 3: not in a lawyer, but I think people they see
Speaker 3: that as like, oh, you just do the business of law.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting change of.
Speaker 3: It's not a challenging We'll just put it that way.
Speaker 2: Even challenger. No, it's it's just like a pretty big shift.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Anyway, So in nineteen sixty
Speaker 3: six he gets back into the business to fighting in
Speaker 3: the law, becomes a prosecutor in New York. That same year,
Speaker 3: he busts Timothy Leary in a drug raid. Then he
Speaker 3: goes and he busts Donald Fagan and Walter Becker in
Speaker 3: another drug raid. The two were students at the time
Speaker 3: at Bard College. Now the two would later form, obviously
Speaker 3: the band Steely Dan. Did you know they wrote a
Speaker 3: song about getting busted by G. Gordon Liddy?
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I make sure to not familiarize myself with
Speaker 2: the catalog.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I won't even tell you the song though, but they
Speaker 3: call him Daddy G and the lyrics. Anyways, all this
Speaker 3: busting dirty hippies.
Speaker 2: I'm with the late Steve Albini.
Speaker 3: I know you are, Yeah, Fan, I just threw it
Speaker 3: out there because I know you aren't. Anyway, the busting
Speaker 3: dirty hippies. It qualifies G. Gordon Liddy to help out
Speaker 3: Richard Nixon's nineteen sixty eight presidential campaign. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but that's how it goes. So Nixon wins in sixty eight,
Speaker 3: and this carries G. Gordon Liddy into the White House.
Speaker 3: So now he's put in charge of Well, we got
Speaker 3: to put him in charge of something. So what should
Speaker 3: we him in charge of? Well, we got that new
Speaker 3: sky Marshall program they have. G. Gordon Lyddy established the
Speaker 3: sky Marshall program.
Speaker 2: Oh well, well that's you know, because we had all
Speaker 2: those crazy talk about.
Speaker 3: The skyjacking, right, yeah, so he's the one they put
Speaker 3: in charge of fighting the whole trend of skyjacks.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, when you need to fight skyjackers, get
Speaker 2: a former patent line exactly.
Speaker 3: That's who everyone sees that. So at this point, now
Speaker 3: seventy one, right, G. Gordon Liddy, who is a lawyer,
Speaker 3: as I pointed out, he becomes the general counsel for
Speaker 3: the finance Committee for the group called the Committee to
Speaker 3: re elect the President. Okay, and that's the president being Nixon.
Speaker 3: Now on January twenty seventh, nineteen seventy two, G. Gordon
Speaker 3: Liddy has a big idea, Elizabeth. He tells his colleague
Speaker 3: John Erlickman, the chief aid to the President. That guy,
Speaker 3: he loves it. Oh, it's a great idea, Gordon. Now
Speaker 3: together they go on. They sell this big idea to
Speaker 3: the re election Committee's acting chairman, who is Jeb Stewart McGruder.
Speaker 3: Then they also tell this other guy who's the Attorney
Speaker 3: General of the United States, John Mitchell. Then they tell
Speaker 3: this other guy, the President's counsel, his personal lawyer, John Deane.
Speaker 3: They all love it, kind of right, someone like no, no, no,
Speaker 3: should we do this? But they're like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: They think about it. Now, what's the big idea, Elizabeth.
Speaker 2: Oh, tell me the big idea that was.
Speaker 3: Let's play spy games like we used to remember Cold
Speaker 3: War when we were young. Let's break into the Democratic
Speaker 3: National Committee's office. We'll bug their offices, take some spy photos,
Speaker 3: look for dirt secrets, we sneak out. It'll be great.
Speaker 2: I love that. They're like, hmmm, I don't know, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think about it for half a second. They're like,
Speaker 3: we should totally do this one hundred percent on pro crimes.
Speaker 3: Let's do this, y yeah. So, according to White House
Speaker 3: counsel John Deane, he says this was quote the opening
Speaker 3: scene of the worst political scandal of the twentieth century
Speaker 3: and the beginning of the end of the Nixon presidency.
Speaker 3: Wait to go, g Gordon, lady. There it is so
Speaker 3: First that Attorney General John Mitchell he resigns his Attorney
Speaker 3: General of the US. Why why would he do this
Speaker 3: so that he can run the committee to re elect
Speaker 3: the president. Oh God, I don't get it myself, but
Speaker 3: that's what he did, right, g Gordon, Lady, he gets.
Speaker 3: But in charge of the off the books operation to
Speaker 3: do like you know, hijinks. Now, the other security experts
Speaker 3: they're also broad in. We have one James McCord, we
Speaker 3: mentioned him earlier. Then another one who's brought in is E.
Speaker 3: Howard Hunt. Okay, like we gotta talk about E. Howard Elizabeth.
Speaker 2: Let's see Gordon Howard.
Speaker 3: Yes, do you remember Howard down? I'm sure you've heard
Speaker 3: of him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He was the old school Cold War spies spy. Right.
Speaker 3: This guy served as an officer of the CIA from
Speaker 3: forty nine to seventy like Mexico City Bureau Chief when
Speaker 3: like Lee Harvey Oswald was allegedly around there. He's also
Speaker 3: there for the Coon Guatemala in fifty four. He's involved
Speaker 3: in the failed they have Pigs invasion in sixty one.
Speaker 3: The guy, he's just a highlight reel CIA stuff.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: If you dig into the assassination of JK, you'll find E.
Speaker 3: Howard hunt all over the place.
Speaker 2: Oh really, Oh.
Speaker 3: My goodness, Yes, I think I've told you about it.
Speaker 3: There's people who say they spotted him in a hotel
Speaker 3: room with Lee Harvey Oswald just days before the shooting
Speaker 3: in Dallas. Right, it was like, what was E. Howard
Speaker 3: how doing in Dallas? And you know, anyway, so people
Speaker 3: talk about the deep state, they are thinking of E.
Speaker 3: Howard Hunting, right, and also G Gordon Lady, these are
Speaker 3: the guys Nixon gave us the deep state. Yeah, now,
Speaker 3: at this point when they're busted for their involvement in
Speaker 3: the Watergate break in E. Howard Hunting, G. Gordon Liddy,
Speaker 3: they were working together on a secondary assignment to kill
Speaker 3: a US journalist for one of Nixon's thatchetmen.
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh yeah, so we were in the bonesaw business.
Speaker 3: Like literally, yes, Watergate literally saved the life of an
Speaker 3: American journalist.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: The guy's name was Jack Anderson. Right, He was a
Speaker 3: syndicated columnist. He'd written a story just before the nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty Nixon Kennedy election, and in his story he cites
Speaker 3: this secret loan from Howard Hughes, friend of the show.
Speaker 2: Right to we talked about that totally.
Speaker 3: To Donald Nixon, the president's brother. Nixon is convinced that
Speaker 3: this story is why he lost to Kennedy. So once
Speaker 3: he's back in power, re elected in a landslide in
Speaker 3: seventy two, now feeling untouchable, Nixon orders his Deep State
Speaker 3: boys to assassinate Jack Anderson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, and then after that irma bomb back.
Speaker 3: Now they're like, we can't shoot, that'll be suspicious. So G.
Speaker 3: Gordon Lady and I Howard Hunt they come up with
Speaker 3: a hell of a plan. So they're going to douse
Speaker 3: his steering wheel of his car with LSD. He'll be driving.
Speaker 3: Oh man, he'll start tripping. Then he'll crash his car
Speaker 3: and he'll be a fatal accident. People are like, are
Speaker 3: you guaranteest thing?
Speaker 2: Ever?
Speaker 3: Their plan right? Their other plan was to poison his aspirin.
Speaker 3: They're like, wait, they probably don't take enough aspirin. So
Speaker 3: they're like, okay, if that doesn't work, we could just
Speaker 3: break into his house, stage a robbery and then just
Speaker 3: he just went fatal. Oops, And they're like that was
Speaker 3: planned three.
Speaker 2: But like the first one, Oh my god, the LSD car,
Speaker 2: I'm all lay down a banana on the sidewalk with
Speaker 2: the banana peel and then a pile of razor blades
Speaker 2: block away, you know, like.
Speaker 3: You're like hung out with like old hippies. And they
Speaker 3: would tell you something like, man, the government used to
Speaker 3: try to do this stuff. You're like, come on, man,
Speaker 3: and then you hear the government You're like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: take it back. They really were trying to put LSD
Speaker 3: on car steering wheels to kill people would.
Speaker 2: Be afraid to get in the car and drive. What
Speaker 2: if I am dosed with LSD by the government drive slowly,
Speaker 2: they want they want to get me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there after you, Lilizabeth, and you're like number seven
Speaker 3: on the list. So luckily for this dude, this journalist Anderson,
Speaker 3: the assassination attempt never happens because in seventy two, these
Speaker 3: two cold warriors get locked up in conjunction with the
Speaker 3: Watergate break in. Because the burglars who get busted roll
Speaker 3: over on their bosses, who are I Howard Hunt and
Speaker 3: g Ordon Letty. So there's another key figure, Jim McCord, right,
Speaker 3: the former FBI agent and later CI agent. By seventy
Speaker 3: two he was the head of security for the Committee
Speaker 3: to re elect the President. Now he was also allegedly
Speaker 3: a spy for the Soviet Union. Oh, he's the head
Speaker 3: of security for the committee to re elect Nixon. Was
Speaker 3: apparently allegedly a spy for the Soviet Union. He'd been
Speaker 3: compromised in a honey trap. Oh by this really known
Speaker 3: famous psych Soviet honey trapper. So it was going around
Speaker 3: Washington honey trapping people. And then so he would then
Speaker 3: had to help this guy to keep other moles from
Speaker 3: being discovered. So he'd find out was like oh yeah,
Speaker 3: and being the head of security, he was able to
Speaker 3: like work his stuff in the White House. Like anyway,
Speaker 3: these cats were all kinds of deep state, and you say, Elizabeth,
Speaker 3: they were. So here we go. We have G. Gordon
Speaker 3: Liddy's plan to put the Big Idea into play. It
Speaker 3: goes terribly. Now we've met the you know, the cold warriors.
Speaker 3: So let's take a little break, Elizabeth, and when we
Speaker 3: get back, we will break into the Watergate literally and
Speaker 3: see how it went down so poorly. All right, Elizabeth,
Speaker 3: we're back.
Speaker 2: I'm back.
Speaker 3: You you're ready to break into the Watergate hotel. I've
Speaker 3: waited all my life to do this. Okay, we've met
Speaker 3: former Attorney General John Mitchell, White House Counsel John Deane,
Speaker 3: deep state batties G. Gordon Liddy and E. Howard him. Well,
Speaker 3: with the Watergate break in, it just wasn't just one
Speaker 3: bungled bird. It was actually two break ins. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: turns out this crack team of deep state spies and
Speaker 3: so forth, they required two attempts to bug the Democrats.
Speaker 3: For the first attempt, Jim mccoord, he consults a special
Speaker 3: registry of old spies. It's called apparently the FBI Society
Speaker 3: of Former Special Agents. There's literally a registry like a
Speaker 3: book of old former spies. Magazine, there's there's a movie
Speaker 3: for you, Hollywood, just waiting to be made, the FBI
Speaker 3: Society of Former Special Agents. It's an actual book. Just
Speaker 3: open the book. The movie starts anyway. McCord finds himself
Speaker 3: an old spy in this book, calls him up and
Speaker 3: he goes, hey, you want some side work. I got
Speaker 3: a little piece work for you. And he's like, is
Speaker 3: it wet work? No, man, it's cool. So the former spy,
Speaker 3: this guy's name is Alfred C. Baldwin, no relation to
Speaker 3: Alec or Danny Baldwin. The dude used to be a
Speaker 3: bodyguard for the Attorney General John Mitchell's wife, which is
Speaker 3: why they felt they could trust him.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: They're like, he's one of our people. He knows how
Speaker 3: we would do stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So May twenty eighth, Baldwin and the first crew of
Speaker 3: Watergate burglars they break into the Watergate Hotel. They go
Speaker 3: up to the sixth floor. They plan a bunch of
Speaker 3: illegal wire taps. They sneak back out. Guys, they're high
Speaker 3: five and in the parking lot except for the wire
Speaker 3: taps they places don't work, so they're like, oh man,
Speaker 3: the MIC's done works. They have to go back, break
Speaker 3: back into the DNC office and repair their wire taps.
Speaker 3: What would the other Deep state guys say, I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: what are you gonna say at the conventions? Like, how's
Speaker 3: it going, Bob? Well, let me tell you a story.
Speaker 3: Keep to yourself, I'm telling you, right. So a couple
Speaker 3: weeks later, on a Saturday night, June seventeenth, nineteen seventy two,
Speaker 3: the spy guys break back into the Watergate complex where
Speaker 3: the second time, except things don't go as smoothly the
Speaker 3: second time. You see Elizabeth, their security protocols were pretty
Speaker 3: amateurish for a bunch of former spies. Yeah, because okay,
Speaker 3: this is how they get caught. Security guard working late
Speaker 3: at night, he notices one of the doors in the
Speaker 3: underground parking lot is taped open, like at the lock
Speaker 3: part that would come to the It's taped over so
Speaker 3: it'll stay open, all right. He's like, well, I have's
Speaker 3: messed up. You can't have that. He takes it off
Speaker 3: and he goes back on his rounds. Yeah, when he
Speaker 3: comes back, the tape back, he's like, wait, a minute,
Speaker 3: I thought I took this off. He realizes, wait a minute, nope,
Speaker 3: and he calls the cops. He's like, there's hanky stuff afoot.
Speaker 2: Cop, I would have thought that from the jump, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not him. He thought maybe somebody was trying
Speaker 3: to hold up on the door. But he knows now
Speaker 3: this is somebody who prepaired this. They are currently hope
Speaker 3: but holding open the door at to thirty am yeh.
Speaker 3: So he calls the cops. The cops who answer the
Speaker 3: call are not uniformed cops. Instead, it's three plain clothes
Speaker 3: cops dressed like hippies because they're out busting kids on
Speaker 3: pop possession charges. They're called the bum squad. So the
Speaker 3: bum squad cops show up. These three undercover hippies go
Speaker 3: rushing into the water gate. Meanwhile, on the sixth floor
Speaker 3: there are five men breaking into the DNC. Now these
Speaker 3: guys are spy guys. They have a lookout, right. They
Speaker 3: have this old spy they picked up from the spy
Speaker 3: Yellow Pages. Baldwin, he's watching their six so to speak.
Speaker 3: Where is he? He's across the street at Howard Johnson's
Speaker 3: right in like a hotel. He's on the sixth floor.
Speaker 3: He's watching from a window, just like he told them.
Speaker 3: He's supposed to alert them, but you see, Elizabeth, he
Speaker 3: gets bored. It's two thirty in the morning. There's no
Speaker 3: nobody on the streets. There's the streets slows, nothing's going down.
Speaker 3: So the Lookout what does he do? Turns the TV on,
Speaker 3: starts to watch this late night creature feature. It's called
Speaker 3: The Attack of the Puppet People. Now, this was a
Speaker 3: nineteen fifty eight black and white horror film. I went,
Speaker 3: I looked it up, and so knock off from the
Speaker 3: previous year's big hit horror film, The Incredible Shrinking Man.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, this flagrant money grab, The Attack of the
Speaker 3: Puppet People, it flips it. This is about a woman
Speaker 3: who takes a job working as a secretary for the scientist.
Speaker 3: And the scientist Elizabeth. He's mad, like a mad scientist.
Speaker 3: He shrinks people through like his thing. Then he keeps
Speaker 3: them in little glass cases and that way no one
Speaker 3: can ever hurt him and no one can ever leave
Speaker 3: him anyway. That's the movie, right. So ultimately this movie
Speaker 3: brings down President Nixon because if that Lookout it hadn't
Speaker 3: been so captivated by the attack of the puppet People,
Speaker 3: there would have been no water.
Speaker 2: Immediately he looks out and he sees three hippies run it.
Speaker 3: No, he would have seen them way before. He doesn't
Speaker 3: notice them untill they're on the sixth floor, on the
Speaker 3: same floor as his guy.
Speaker 2: But he wouldn't notice. If it's three, it's not three cops.
Speaker 3: Well, he's easy. Anything happens, he would have called them
Speaker 3: if anything happens, Yeah, nothing's happening on the street. If
Speaker 3: you see a car pull up and three guys run
Speaker 3: into the building where your guys are burgling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: You're gonna say something. He didn't say something until they're.
Speaker 2: On the city's too good.
Speaker 3: Until the cops are on the sixth floor and he
Speaker 3: sees lights going on as they're going across that same floor.
Speaker 3: Oh so you say how he tries tries to call
Speaker 3: the guys in the Watergate like you could legitimately argue
Speaker 3: that the greatest political scandal in US history can be
Speaker 3: traced back. Did some screenwriters sitting down one day and
Speaker 3: typing the words fade in on page one of the
Speaker 3: Attack of the Puppet People. That's just wild, Like, tell
Speaker 3: me God doesn't epicent to humor. Anyway, this old spy
Speaker 3: working freelance as the lookout, Baldwin, as I said, doesn't
Speaker 3: see anything going on, and then boom, history happens. Right,
Speaker 3: So Baldwin he spots the cops going as the lights go,
Speaker 3: he radios them. They take off with their burglary tools,
Speaker 3: but it's too late. At this point the cops are
Speaker 3: on the same floor as then all five guys get
Speaker 3: caught together. Shake down, break down your busy yep. Right
Speaker 3: next day, g Gordon Liddy, he has to go and
Speaker 3: tell his co conspirators the bad news. Like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: come to news. The five burglars they hired to break
Speaker 3: into the DNC. We're all arrested and we're hoping they
Speaker 3: don't talk. So what's the immediate response And from the
Speaker 3: Nixon White House when their spykup goes wrong? Well, Nixon
Speaker 3: is first told about the Watergate break in. He knows
Speaker 3: Nick it's a big deal. He's like whatever, so he
Speaker 3: tells his White House, Hey, John Erlickman. He gets told
Speaker 3: the news. Five days afterward, he sees the paper. He
Speaker 3: sees the story in the newspaper. He's like on the
Speaker 3: beach right reading the newspaper. He sees it, it doesn't
Speaker 3: make sense of it. Then later on he's told what
Speaker 3: it means. In response, Nixon says, to the guy, oh,
Speaker 3: who was the that did that? That was Nixon's response.
Speaker 3: Right now, you better believe Nixon has a plan to
Speaker 3: handle this fiastro. Nixon starts cooking right, so he orders
Speaker 3: the CIA to run a smoke screen to keep the
Speaker 3: FBI off of Nixon's trail. Wow, he knows who will
Speaker 3: be investigating.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 3: So he's like, CIA, you got to get in there.
Speaker 3: Tell him it's a national security So that's the plan now.
Speaker 3: And he also goes and has to have somebody pay
Speaker 3: the hush money to the burglars to buy their side.
Speaker 3: So they got to arrange that. Luckily, he's got this
Speaker 3: whole committee to re elect the president. He's like, let's
Speaker 3: run some money through there.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So you'd say that Nixon, as I said earlier, is
Speaker 3: the reason people think what they think about the deep state.
Speaker 3: He's the guy, right because right here, at this point,
Speaker 3: now you have the President, the Attorney General, the White
Speaker 3: House Council, a bunch of former Cold War spies, the CIA,
Speaker 3: all helping to block the FBI from investigating crimes anyway. Now,
Speaker 3: this marks the beginning of the second phase that I
Speaker 3: like to call it, the cover up of the cover up.
Speaker 3: Right in August first, nineteen seventy two, Washington Post publishes
Speaker 3: a story that connects the Watergate break into the Nixon
Speaker 3: reelection committee. The next month, all five burglars they get
Speaker 3: indicted by a grand jury. So the story just keeps
Speaker 3: cooking in the newspapers. All five burglars plead guilty. They
Speaker 3: all dummy up. No one says anything. Indicted with them
Speaker 3: are E Howard Hunt and G. Gordon Liddy. The charges
Speaker 3: they get conspiracy, burglary, violation of federal wiretapping laws. They're
Speaker 3: facing serious time. Ye, they all go down. They all
Speaker 3: lie to the FBI. They say that they were just
Speaker 3: doing it on their own. They're just good old fashioned
Speaker 3: anti communists. No one ever hired them to do this.
Speaker 3: They did it of their own militia. Just five guys
Speaker 3: break into the DNC and plant microphones. So, Elizabeth, what
Speaker 3: do we always say about lying to the FBI?
Speaker 2: The worst possible decision.
Speaker 3: It's the world. It's like a twenty year crime just
Speaker 3: for tell them lie. All you have to do is
Speaker 3: breathe and train the crime.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So the next month, in September seventy two, Woodward and
Speaker 3: Bernstein are star reporters from the Washington Post. They publish
Speaker 3: a series of stories that reveal how the campaign re
Speaker 3: election funds were illegally used to basically and are connected
Speaker 3: to this whole Watergate break in. And they drop a
Speaker 3: bombshell allegation and I quote John M. Mitchell, while serving
Speaker 3: as US Attorney General, personally controlled a secret Republican fund
Speaker 3: that was used to gather information about the Democrats, according
Speaker 3: to sources involved in the Watergate investigation. So now they're
Speaker 3: saying the attorney generals involved in the paper booh, the
Speaker 3: idea that the highest lawn the land is dirties. It
Speaker 3: was a shocking allegation. In nineteen seventy two, Yeah, right, Elizabeth,
Speaker 3: you know how Daniel Ellsberg wrote his whistle blower book,
Speaker 3: The Pentagon Papers. Yes, he was a Pentagon employee and
Speaker 3: he released a bunch of stuff saying that basically the
Speaker 3: Pentagon was lying about Vietnam and here is all the proofs.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: Well, he also had a psychiatrist, Daniel Elsberg, and he
Speaker 3: would go and talk to him. Well, in response to
Speaker 3: all these leaks that came about with the Pentagon papers,
Speaker 3: Nixon formed what's called the White House Plumbers to plug
Speaker 3: the leaks right and to also deal with any past
Speaker 3: leaks and plug any future leaks. So they had them.
Speaker 3: He had his team break into Daniel Elsberg' psychiatrist's office.
Speaker 3: On that team was I, Howard Hun and G. Gordon Lyddie.
Speaker 3: So now he's conflating and combining all of his crimes.
Speaker 3: So now he's worried because these guys are going to
Speaker 3: prison for a long time and they know about multiple crimes,
Speaker 3: not just Watergate. So in other words, they know where
Speaker 3: all the metaphorical bodies are buried. Yeah, So to contain
Speaker 3: these spiraling scandals, John dened white House counts. So it
Speaker 3: is told he needs to deep six whatever is in E.
Speaker 3: Howard Hunt's White House safe. Oh right, They're like, what
Speaker 3: do you I don't about, lawyer, What am I supposed
Speaker 3: to do? They're like, oh, I don't know, get get
Speaker 3: hauled him to help you.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I find it, arlokhim in. One of those guys got
Speaker 3: to know something, right, So he gets together with the
Speaker 3: acting FBI director in the White House Council, They get together,
Speaker 3: they break into the safe, they personally destroy whatever was
Speaker 3: in e Howard hunts safe. Then he personally monitors the
Speaker 3: FBI's investigation, helping to make sure that they're not looking
Speaker 3: at the right places. Then it's chief of staff Hr
Speaker 3: hauled him in. He handles the hush money for the burglars.
Speaker 3: He comes up with the idea to have the CIA
Speaker 3: block the FBI investigation. Next was like I love it
Speaker 3: now Nixon's advisor John Erlokman, and he just flat out
Speaker 3: lies to the FBI as just anywhere he can. And
Speaker 3: he also doubles down and eventually lies in the grand
Speaker 3: jury that's convened later on.
Speaker 2: Do we know what was in the safe? No, never
Speaker 2: found out.
Speaker 3: Nope, we just know that it's destroyed. Yeah, so we're
Speaker 3: talking high crimes and misdemeanors at this point. Just everything
Speaker 3: I just said, all that whole list of what they're doing.
Speaker 3: There's other stuff, but I'm just giving you the highlights. Elizabeth.
Speaker 3: You can see if you can guess what these brain
Speaker 3: geniuses do next to try to kill this story for good.
Speaker 2: I cannot guess.
Speaker 3: Well, you've heard what they're willing to do. Just to
Speaker 3: a journalist for revenge and what they're doing willing to
Speaker 3: do to disparage a whistleblower. Yeah, well their plan is, well,
Speaker 3: stop guessing. You'll never guess that. Elizabeth. Their new idea was, quote,
Speaker 3: we need to kidnap the wife or the former Attorney
Speaker 3: general of the US.
Speaker 2: Kidnapp the What does that have to do with anything.
Speaker 3: It's just welcome to Watergate.
Speaker 2: It's just exciting.
Speaker 3: Her name, Elizabeth Martha Mitchell. Martha Mitchell. Yeah, she had
Speaker 3: a very interesting life. She was a debutante, a kiamega
Speaker 3: from down south. While she was in college in Miami, Florida,
Speaker 3: she dated Al Capone. What I did not know that
Speaker 3: totally sunny Capone. So she was like, yeah, dated him
Speaker 3: and his brother. Now, if you recall James McCord, one
Speaker 3: of the Watergate burglars, he was her personal bodyguard, right,
Speaker 3: and that's why they felt that they could trust him. Well,
Speaker 3: Nixon's people now aren't so sure if they can trust
Speaker 3: Martha because John Mitchell knows his wife is planning to
Speaker 3: leave him. So and not always how life goes, You're like, oh,
Speaker 3: like a web of major several crimes over here. Baby,
Speaker 3: She's like, I want a divorce home. So John Mitchell
Speaker 3: he's in Newport Beach, California, and he hears the news
Speaker 3: about the Watergate breaking. He hears about Baldwin getting busted,
Speaker 3: and he's like, Oh, this is not gonna be good. Right,
Speaker 3: So Mitchell knows he has to fly back to Washington, DC.
Speaker 3: He tells his wife's security detail to keep her there
Speaker 3: and keep her isolated from any reporters and away from
Speaker 3: the phone. He basically kidnaps his own wife. Yeah, during
Speaker 3: the summer of seventy two for the entire summer, at
Speaker 3: least for most of the summer. In June, Martha tries
Speaker 3: to get hold of a reporter who will listen to
Speaker 3: her because she's been kidnapped. She calls Helen Thomas. The
Speaker 3: political used to be in the front row all the time.
Speaker 3: So Martha Mitchell tells Helen Thomas that she's planning to
Speaker 3: leave her husband, the former now former Attorney General. But
Speaker 3: before Helen can ask any questions about what's going on,
Speaker 3: the call goes dead cring. It turns out a bodyguard
Speaker 3: has yanked the phone court out from the wall.
Speaker 2: Oh God.
Speaker 3: While later, Martha Mitchell she sees a reporter from the
Speaker 3: New York Daily News, who has followed a tip and
Speaker 3: track her down to the Westchester country Club. All right,
Speaker 3: the reporter, this woman, Marsha Kramer, got to give her
Speaker 3: her shout outs. She's horrified by what she finds. She
Speaker 3: finds a woman who, Martha Mitchell, looks bruised. She's been
Speaker 3: rouffed up, looks like she's roughed up by gangsters, like
Speaker 3: by Capone's people, Elizabeth. But instead it's a former FBUI
Speaker 3: guy bodyguard. Anyway, despite her bruises, Martha Mitchell tells her
Speaker 3: story to the journalist the week after the Watergate break,
Speaker 3: and she says how her husband, the former Attendee General
Speaker 3: is all involved, had her in prisoned in a hotel
Speaker 3: room in Newport Beach. He tried to escape several times.
Speaker 3: She tried to jump from the balcony. She was getting
Speaker 3: ruffed up. She was given sedatives by a shrink and
Speaker 3: locked away. They're like, what the story goes out? Right,
Speaker 3: Nixon's people tell the press that, well, she was a
Speaker 3: hospitalized for a drinking problem, you know, blah blah blah. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: so they just they just credit her entirely. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: at first, that's our first like attempted. The story almost breaks.
Speaker 3: Everyone was like, oh, this woman's insane. When she's a drinker,
Speaker 3: We're not gonna listen to her.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So anyway, the call to Helen Thomas in an interview
Speaker 3: did do damage because enough people stayed interested. Now is like, wait,
Speaker 3: the wife of the Attorney general is claiming all this stuff.
Speaker 3: Some people believed her and that was enough, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Nixon himself even said later on, if it had been
Speaker 3: for Martha Mitchell, there would have been no Watergate.
Speaker 2: So, oh, it's all her fault keeping score.
Speaker 3: Now we have Martha Mitchell and the attack of the
Speaker 3: puppet people as the two primary reasons why Nixon was
Speaker 3: taken down by the Watergate scandal. Okay, there's another reason, Elizabeth.
Speaker 3: Of course, deep Throat. You've heard a deep Throat. His
Speaker 3: real name was Mark Felt, Deputy director of the FBI.
Speaker 3: He remembered same group that's being stonewalled by the CIA.
Speaker 3: They're investigating. They know some stuff's tanky, so they start
Speaker 3: leaking stuff to different newspapers, Time, The New York Times,
Speaker 3: Washington Post. Funniest thing about Deep Throat, other than the
Speaker 3: fact his name is based on a porn film, is
Speaker 3: how He actually wasn't helpful at all in breaking the case.
Speaker 3: I mean not really when you're going to go back
Speaker 3: and look at it. The only thing he really did
Speaker 3: was to tell Woodward and Bernstein to focus on the
Speaker 3: money and to see who had access to the money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which, like hello, I could say that.
Speaker 3: And even that whole phrase.
Speaker 2: It's a good idea in pretty much anything. Always just
Speaker 2: follow the money if you want to figure out.
Speaker 3: With queebono, right, huh so, but follow the money. That
Speaker 3: famous phrase, Yeah, that's allegedly what you know, Deep Throat
Speaker 3: tells Woodward. Phrase wasn't in their book. It was from
Speaker 3: the movie William Goldman, the screenwriter. He comes up with that.
Speaker 3: He that's pure Hollywood magic, perfect right, follow the money. Anyway,
Speaker 3: So there we go, Ready for some more spy games.
Speaker 3: Just a couple Yes, how they communicated if Deep Throat
Speaker 3: wanted to talk with Woodward, I think, Elizabeth, you're gonna
Speaker 3: love this. He would get his hands on the New
Speaker 3: York Times newspaper that was going to be delivered to
Speaker 3: Woodward's house somehow, we don't know. He'd draw a circle
Speaker 3: on page twenty. Then down in that same corner of
Speaker 3: that same page, would be a hand drawn clock. That
Speaker 3: clock would give the time that Deep Throat wanted to
Speaker 3: meet right now. If Woodward wanted to speak to Deep Throat,
Speaker 3: he'd place a red flag in his old flower pot.
Speaker 3: He'd place the flower pot on his balcony at the rear.
Speaker 3: If he returned home and the flower pod had been moved,
Speaker 3: that meant that they were to meet at their usual spot. Now.
Speaker 3: Fun fact that twenty eleven, the site where they met,
Speaker 3: this underground garage was marked with a historical plaque to
Speaker 3: denote the significance of this spot in American history. Six
Speaker 3: years later, in twenty seventeen, the garage was destroyed by
Speaker 3: new developers. Anyway, my point, the Washington Post isn't the
Speaker 3: only one covering this story. The New York Times is
Speaker 3: on It Time, is on It Time magazine. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: regardless of all these competing scoops between them, other papers
Speaker 3: around the country, they're mostly ignoring Watergate. They just see
Speaker 3: like La Times, Philadelphia Quirer, Chicago Tribune. They're all just
Speaker 3: acting like it's it's not really, it's a non story.
Speaker 3: So they just report the White House's denials of the
Speaker 3: scoops from the other papers. So the Post puts out
Speaker 3: a claim White House because then they just report Nixon
Speaker 3: just just you know, yeah, exactly, So at this point,
Speaker 3: the Watergate story isn't coming anywhere near to touching Nixon
Speaker 3: or his White House. Then comes the end of the
Speaker 3: summer and the autumn, and with that the presidential election
Speaker 3: of nineteen seventy two. Yeah, non November seventh, nineteen seventy two,
Speaker 3: Richard Dixon is reelected. He defeats George McGovern Elizabeth a landslide,
Speaker 3: one of the biggest electoral ass kickings in all of
Speaker 3: you has history prior to Reagan. Right now that he'd
Speaker 3: won reelection in a major landslide, Nixon felt he has
Speaker 3: solid proof that he is untouchable. It's retribution time, right,
Speaker 3: Nixon decides this gives his team legit reason to order
Speaker 3: the assassination of his enemies. That's when he goes go
Speaker 3: kill Jack Anderson. Right, That's when this happens. Is once
Speaker 3: he's reelected, that's when he's like, why dose plumbers.
Speaker 2: Get to it right and legal?
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. So he has his guys basically generally wreaking
Speaker 3: havoc on the US. Yeah, so let's take a little break.
Speaker 3: We'll enjoy some warm, fresh baked ads. When we get back, Elizabeth,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you how this whole Watergate thing goes kerplump. Okay,
Speaker 3: Elizabeth saren, we're back.
Speaker 2: Hello.
Speaker 3: He diging it so far. I am kind of silly, right,
Speaker 3: all the weird names, all the weird angles, and like,
Speaker 3: what happens? How did al Capone get into the water start?
Speaker 2: So it echoes through time totally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now we're about to get into not just echoes,
Speaker 3: but like dar near mirroring. You're gonna just watch listen
Speaker 3: rather Okay. So Nixon's team of cold warriors they're trying
Speaker 3: to play spy games back home in the USA, right,
Speaker 3: but they get caught with their pants down in the
Speaker 3: petting zoo. And at first, after the Watergate burglars, they
Speaker 3: played guilty. No one's talking. The story looks like it
Speaker 3: may go away. Yeah, then e Howard Hunt blackmails the president.
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 3: He's like, I want to You got to pay me
Speaker 3: to stay silent.
Speaker 2: In deep state.
Speaker 3: He demands one hundred and twenty thousand dollars or he'll talk.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, but things are starting to go bleak at
Speaker 3: this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, also, by the way, his wife died in a
Speaker 3: plane crash ferrying money for these people illegally, just as coincidental.
Speaker 3: It was like a huge No, it was like a
Speaker 3: big American plane that just goes down, happens to be
Speaker 3: on it, and she had like ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: I forget. I started watching Scandal there.
Speaker 3: So he's all broken up about that, and he's worried
Speaker 3: about the future of his kids if he's going off
Speaker 3: to prison. Sure, so that's what he wants the money
Speaker 3: for anyway, So he thinks he's being a good dad
Speaker 3: by blackmailing the president. So White House counsel tells the
Speaker 3: president about this threat. Nixon's like, oh, well, I know
Speaker 3: where we can get a million dollars. Because John d
Speaker 3: You's thinking like, oh, I thought this is gonna be
Speaker 3: a problem. He no, No, don't worry about that, you know.
Speaker 3: So he goes, You're like, Jimmy Hoffele, give me Jimmy
Speaker 3: Hoffele or whatever. I can't say if it's for sure,
Speaker 3: Jimmy Hoffer. But as you covered, Jimmy Hoffer was helping
Speaker 3: him get money. So Nixon had sources for dark money.
Speaker 3: So at this point, Elizabeth, the cover up. The cover
Speaker 3: up is now fully kicking in and it's about to
Speaker 3: bring down Nixon. He just doesn't know it yet. So
Speaker 3: we got about a year left of his presidency. One
Speaker 3: thing we haven't discussed yet is why did Nixon want
Speaker 3: his guys to break into the DNC office? What was
Speaker 3: Nixon really after?
Speaker 2: Well, wasn't it I think I talked about it on
Speaker 2: another episode. Wasn't it proof of Hughes's donation?
Speaker 3: Okay, this is the point. There's multiple debates, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: no one knows. And all the testimony for the grand
Speaker 3: jury is the deposition for the civil suits. All that
Speaker 3: comes out, all the memoirs written by people, Why did
Speaker 3: Nixon want to break into the DNC headquarters? No one
Speaker 3: gives a satisfying answer. So, according to the transcripts from
Speaker 3: the case of the United States versus. G. Gordon Liddy,
Speaker 3: which became publicly available about a decade ago the Watergate burglars,
Speaker 3: they all testified that they'd operated under belief that they
Speaker 3: were looking for evidence that linked the Democrats to Castro's Cuba. Okay,
Speaker 3: but wouldn't you tell a bunch of anti communists that,
Speaker 3: you know, that's just a cover story to tell those idiots?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right, There's a different theory, which is that Nixon was
Speaker 3: after j. Anthony Lucas, former New York Times journalist. He
Speaker 3: works as a history professor at Texas A and M.
Speaker 3: He put forth the idea this is that Woodward and
Speaker 3: Bernstein were wrong and that their version of events, Dixon
Speaker 3: wanted to bug the phone of the chairman of the
Speaker 3: DNC to find out if there was a legal fundraising
Speaker 3: going on by the Democrats. It's like, I know we're cheating,
Speaker 3: so they must be cheating too. It's kind of their logic, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: But professor nicktur he's the guy from Texas A and M.
Speaker 2: And J.
Speaker 3: Anthony Lucas is New York Times journalist. They both put
Speaker 3: for the idea that it was the Democratic leadership was
Speaker 3: involved in prostitution and that the Nixon was trying to
Speaker 3: get dirt on the Democrats for their sex worker problem.
Speaker 3: They were having all these like dirty sex parties which.
Speaker 2: They had files about, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Exactly, which it just feels like someone Nixony. But my
Speaker 3: favorite theory is centered on friend of the show Howard Hughes,
Speaker 3: which is a theory you say, which is that getting
Speaker 3: back to the fifties, Howard Hughes had been doing hinky
Speaker 3: business with the brother of the president of the vice
Speaker 3: president at the time, so he loaned two hundred and
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars to Donald Nixon, then brother the vice
Speaker 3: president and future president. Then apparently he just forgets to
Speaker 3: ever pay Hughes's back, like oops, so slip my mind, right,
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty comes around, Kennedy's people learn about this unpaid loan.
Speaker 3: It comes back to bite Nixon. It gets leaked to
Speaker 3: the press. Nixon's convinced that's why he loses to Kennedy, right,
Speaker 3: and then he wants to kill the reporter.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Nixon was absolutely certain that Joe Kennedy, the former
Speaker 3: gangster turned usmbassador, along with the Daily political machine in Chicago,
Speaker 3: Frank Sinatra and the mob boss Sam Gi and Kana
Speaker 3: the Chicago outfit, and the Bob in Las Vegas, had
Speaker 3: all conspired together to get cheat Nixon out of the presidency.
Speaker 3: But what can he say about him? Beguise it because
Speaker 3: he's basically going, you know, I've been cheating two so
Speaker 3: they just what, Look, they cheated better than I did.
Speaker 3: So he realizes he can't complain to anybody, But this
Speaker 3: time He's like, I ain't look that happened to me again.
Speaker 3: So at this point, you know, Nixon's like, Okay, I
Speaker 3: don't know how, but I'm gonna go back to Howard
Speaker 3: Hughes and ask for more money because the Kennedy's are gone.
Speaker 3: It's sixty eight, right, So he goes back and Howard
Speaker 3: Hughes between sixty eight and seventy Howard Hughes withdraws a
Speaker 3: half million dollars and he slides it to his man,
Speaker 3: Dick Nixon through his brother, and apparently the Democrats get
Speaker 3: some evidence that get wind of this. They get evidence
Speaker 3: and then there's this is the evidence they planned to
Speaker 3: use to knock him out in seventy two, so just
Speaker 3: like they had in sixty So Nixon's like, no, it
Speaker 3: ain't happening. So he then says, break into Watergate, get
Speaker 3: me that evidence, which is the theory. You go, yeah,
Speaker 3: we don't know if that's the case, because we don't
Speaker 3: know what's in he Howard hunt Safe, We don't know what.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of not knowns, right, but there are.
Speaker 2: The unknowns and the.
Speaker 3: Totally oh speaking of co conspirators. Anyway, we'll get to
Speaker 3: the Ford White House in a second in Donald Rumsfeld.
Speaker 3: But so did Nixon pull Watergate to recover evidence of
Speaker 3: Howard Hughes and his Nixon's dark money trail?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 3: I like to believe it so much as go with that.
Speaker 2: What about all of the above, all of them.
Speaker 3: Exactly thinking they were just trying to do everything. What
Speaker 3: drugs were popular? Like what drugs was Nixon and his
Speaker 3: boys on at the time? A lot of speed? Yeah,
Speaker 3: like dexa dream pre adderall type pills from what I've
Speaker 3: been finding, But I don't know. I didn't really look
Speaker 3: into that.
Speaker 5: Time.
Speaker 3: So this point, it's September, right, Uh, The Washington Post
Speaker 3: reports that former Attorney General John Mitchell, while I was
Speaker 3: in office, I told you, was in charge of a
Speaker 3: secret Republican slush find right. So then a week later
Speaker 3: in October would Bernstein. They do have a follow up
Speaker 3: story that claims the FBI is corroborating that the Watergate
Speaker 3: burglars were indeed acting on behalf of the Nixon re
Speaker 3: election campaign. This point, the story starts to cook, but
Speaker 3: Nixon still goes to landslide election in November seventy two.
Speaker 3: Then comes January seventy three, age fifty one, Nixon gets
Speaker 3: sworn in as president for his second term fifty one.
Speaker 3: That's all he was his second term.
Speaker 2: He reads altered.
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean yeah, right know? Right now. To celebrate,
Speaker 3: he listens to the National Symphony Orchestra played for him
Speaker 3: Beethoven's Fifth Symphony, right, and it's technically, by the way,
Speaker 3: his fourth time being sworn in with the oath of office,
Speaker 3: because he was VP for Eisenhower twice, is his second
Speaker 3: time being sworn in. He's the only person in US
Speaker 3: history to be sworn with the oath of office four times. Anyway.
Speaker 3: Ten days later, the five Watergate burglars are found guilty.
Speaker 3: Right now, he's like this, He's like, I can get
Speaker 3: around this. At this point, he thinks this is pure politics.
Speaker 3: He's just gonna fight it hard, right, So this seems
Speaker 3: to be a shock though for one of the burglars,
Speaker 3: and one James Bicord, he has a change of heart.
Speaker 3: He's like, I am a former FBI agent. I am
Speaker 3: not going down for Nixon. Right, So when he goes
Speaker 3: like full Johnny Utah in nineteen sixty style. The day
Speaker 3: of the sentencing, he tells the judge he perjured himself
Speaker 3: and he has secret details that go all the way
Speaker 3: to the White House. Right newspapers they hear this, they
Speaker 3: go nuts. They finally go wild on this story because
Speaker 3: now the Watergate story is sexy because the former spy
Speaker 3: guy says, I'm gonna blow the cover off the deep state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Nixon's lawyer, White House Counsel John Dene, he can
Speaker 3: sense the danger swirling all around the presidency. So in
Speaker 3: March he's told to write up a report that says
Speaker 3: Nixon is innocent of any wrongdoing with the Watergate break in.
Speaker 3: John Dene gets the sense that he's being set up.
Speaker 3: He's like, wait a minute. So instead of his plan
Speaker 3: for him the White House Counsel and the former Attorney
Speaker 3: General John Mitchell, and the Chief of Staff Halderman, and
Speaker 3: White House eight earlomen To all go to the Department
Speaker 3: of Justice together and tell the truth on what they
Speaker 3: did and resigned at the same time. He thinks he
Speaker 3: can save the presidency. That's his plan. Instead, he's got
Speaker 3: other competing plans, namely the one which is save John Dene,
Speaker 3: so that that's the one that makes him go to
Speaker 3: the US Attorney and start asking about if I got
Speaker 3: a deal what would I have to tell you guys.
Speaker 3: So he starts talking to the US attorney about saving
Speaker 3: John Dene. Around the same time, he goes to Chief
Speaker 3: of Staff HR Haldeman says, I'm thinking about talking to
Speaker 3: the DOJ right now. What does Haldaman do? If you
Speaker 3: know anything about Haldiman? He, by the way, calls himself
Speaker 3: the President's son of a bitch. That's his own nickname
Speaker 3: for his role in life. He and so Haldeman right
Speaker 3: hand to Nixon. He says to John Dene, I think
Speaker 3: you ought to think about it, because once the toothpaste
Speaker 3: is out of the tube, it's hard to get back in.
Speaker 3: What a weird threat.
Speaker 2: It's basically like you can't unring that bell, but unringing.
Speaker 3: A bell is such a deeper threat. There's violence involved.
Speaker 3: You got to hit a bell or shake a belt.
Speaker 3: It's just a weird one.
Speaker 6: For me.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, domestic guy, I'm real scared of
Speaker 3: you anyway. At this point, John Dene he he goes
Speaker 3: to confront the big man himself because he's his lawyer,
Speaker 3: he's White House counsel. So he visits the Oval Office
Speaker 3: on April sixteenth, nineteen seventy three to go chop it
Speaker 3: up with Nixon, and we have the transcripts of their meeting,
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you exactly what Nixon says.
Speaker 2: That's because he tapes everything.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, but Revan tell you about all that, Elizabeth.
Speaker 3: I'd like you to close your eyes. I'd like you
Speaker 3: to picture it. Elizabeth. It's the middle of the morning
Speaker 3: and you are on your way through a busy White House.
Speaker 3: You hear phones and offices with open doors ringing. You
Speaker 3: catch snatches of conversation as people brush past you. In
Speaker 3: the hallway. At a wide white door, you paused and knock.
Speaker 3: The President's secretary tells you that the president is expecting you.
Speaker 3: You can go right in. You nod, push open the door.
Speaker 3: The President is indeed expecting you. When the door to
Speaker 3: the oval office pushes open, Nixon looks up at you
Speaker 3: and says, oh good, you're here now. You, Elizabeth, are
Speaker 3: the White House Counsel to the President, John Deane. As
Speaker 3: you take your seat across the desk from Nixon, he
Speaker 3: starts right in. He tells you he's been thinking about
Speaker 3: next steps. He wants you to write it all down,
Speaker 3: a narrative for you to tell to the press. Before
Speaker 3: you resign. That's his new plan you resign. This comes
Speaker 3: as a surprise to you, but you've talked with your
Speaker 3: own lawyer and you tell Nixon, well, my lawyer tells
Speaker 3: me that you know, legally you're in damn good shape.
Speaker 3: Is that right? Yeah, that's right, because you're not. Now
Speaker 3: these is almost are ex transcription. Yeah, yeah, this catches
Speaker 3: you off guard, Elizabeth, What exactly is Nixon getting at?
Speaker 3: You came to Nixon today to tell him you plan
Speaker 3: to resign, but on your terms, and also you expect
Speaker 3: others to go with you, namely Erlickman, Haldeman and also
Speaker 3: John Mitchell. As you two discussed past crimes and whether
Speaker 3: or not Nixon is going to ask Erlickmann and Haldeman
Speaker 3: to resign as well. It's obvious Nixon wants to keep
Speaker 3: his guys out of the line of fire. Meanwhile, you
Speaker 3: scratch some notes on a yellow legal pad. Nixon goes
Speaker 3: over the events of the cover up. Of the cover up,
Speaker 3: he suspiciously gives you a lot of credit for it,
Speaker 3: as he protects his guys. You didn't tell me this
Speaker 3: about Erlockmann, for example, when you came in that day.
Speaker 3: I know he said Hunt needs this money, and you
Speaker 3: were using it as an example of the problems ahead.
Speaker 3: Then Nixon asks you, point blank, John, let me ask
Speaker 3: you this. Let suppose listening breaks and they ask you
Speaker 3: John dene Now, John Dean, you were the president's council.
Speaker 3: Did you report the things to the president? What did
Speaker 3: you report to the president? I would, I would refuse
Speaker 3: to answer any questions as to anything. This answer seems
Speaker 3: to make Nixon happy. He loves that. Okay, but what
Speaker 3: about you? Nixon taps his pencil on his desk as
Speaker 3: he thinks. You're panicking now, wondering why is Nixon making
Speaker 3: you say all of this incriminating stuff out loud about
Speaker 3: what you did well, handing all the culpability to you
Speaker 3: and downplaying his own. Then it hits you, this SOB
Speaker 3: is recording this conversation. You're sure of it. Meanwhile, Nixon
Speaker 3: is still laying out the big lie of who knew
Speaker 3: what when and who told who what. As the President talks,
Speaker 3: you look around the Oval office, wondering where the microphone
Speaker 3: is are where the microphones are? Nixon seems a little sweaty,
Speaker 3: like he knows he's lying to his own lawyer. You
Speaker 3: listen to the President as he outlines his vision for
Speaker 3: you to take the fall for the cover up of
Speaker 3: the cover up of Watergate. Nixon plans for you to
Speaker 3: resign as the White House counsel. You will inform the
Speaker 3: press that you failed the president. You did not inform
Speaker 3: him with any of the illegality going on in his
Speaker 3: White House. You can hear the Grandfather clock in his
Speaker 3: oval office as it grows louder and louder. The TikTok
Speaker 3: is the sound of the clock ticking down on your future.
Speaker 3: Then you hear it. Nixon says he wants you to
Speaker 3: tell the truth. Don't lie, so believe me. Don't ever
Speaker 3: lie with these bastards. The truth always emerges. You say,
Speaker 3: we know that, don't we It always does. You see
Speaker 3: it clear as a roach in a bowl of white rice.
Speaker 3: You see exactly how screwed you are. Nixon is going
Speaker 3: to gut you as the scapego for all the sins
Speaker 3: of the White House. Now, Elizabeth. In that meeting, John
Speaker 3: Deane realizes he's being secretly recorded. And this is also
Speaker 3: the meeting when Nixon begins to assume his White House
Speaker 3: counsel has flipped on him and he's cooperating with the DOJ. Walls,
Speaker 3: as they say, are closing in. Meanwhile, Nixon instinctively knows
Speaker 3: he's desperately in need of throwing someone on the fire.
Speaker 3: Someone's gonna burn. Yeah, so Nixon, since John Dean just
Speaker 3: noped doubt on being the scapegoat, Nixon calls a meeting
Speaker 3: of his inner circle at Camp David. Right, and this
Speaker 3: is in April, at the end of April, last Sunday
Speaker 3: in April. There he cries, and he tells his two
Speaker 3: most loyal henchmen Erlickman and Haldeman that they need to
Speaker 3: fall on their swords. They all they end up hugging.
Speaker 3: It's a really tender seat. Oh yeah, so and I
Speaker 3: think Erlikman asked him, like, what do I tell my kids? No,
Speaker 3: it's terrible. So on April thirty, at nineteen seventy three,
Speaker 3: Erlikman and hr Hauledeman they both go and resign. The
Speaker 3: Nixon crime family is breaking up house sad right, So
Speaker 3: what does Nixon do now, Well, Elizabeth Nixon's Gunna Nixon.
Speaker 3: So he asks his Attorney general, the new one, Klein
Speaker 3: dinst to resign. Why because Nixon wants to pick a
Speaker 3: new one who will shut down this investigation. May sound familiar, right,
Speaker 3: We've seen that move. So Nixon he fires the attorney general.
Speaker 3: He appoints a new one. At this point, we're now
Speaker 3: into May of nineteen seventy three. The Watergate hearings are
Speaker 3: being broadcast by the big three networks, ABC, CBS, NBC.
Speaker 3: They all agree to share Watergate. By the way, they're
Speaker 3: not running it at the same time. They take individual days,
Speaker 3: so every third day they get Watergate. It's really weird. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: so everyone in the US is watching. They just switch
Speaker 3: channels every other day every day. The story is now
Speaker 3: burning bright like a wildfire. His now former White House
Speaker 3: counsel John Dean goes and testifies before the Senate Watergate
Speaker 3: Committee on TV for seven hours, saying everything he knows
Speaker 3: in this flat monitone that makes everyone believe he's telling
Speaker 3: the truth. Now, he says everything he knows. At one
Speaker 3: point his testimony, Dean mentions how when he spoke with
Speaker 3: the President on that day that you were there, when
Speaker 3: you were him, he felt like he was being recorded.
Speaker 3: You remember that. Well, John Deane testifies about these mics
Speaker 3: in the Oval office. The Senate Committee is like, wait, wait,
Speaker 3: hold up, you're telling us Nixon made recordings of his crimes.
Speaker 5: Do go on?
Speaker 3: So it's July at this point when it all goes sideways. Now,
Speaker 3: Elizabeth quick question. You like the Law and Order? Do
Speaker 3: you know why Fred Thompson was on lawn order and playing.
Speaker 2: The d I don't know.
Speaker 3: Because of Watergate. That's when he first got famous. He's
Speaker 3: a young lawyer. And he asked the live on National
Speaker 3: TV if White House Assistant Alexander Butterfield confirmed the installation
Speaker 3: of any listening devices in the Oval Office of the President. No.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 3: Butterfield's answer is the beginning of the end for Nixon
Speaker 3: because he confirms for the Watergate Committee that there is
Speaker 3: indeed a recording system in the Oval office. He was
Speaker 3: installed in nineteen seventy one, and there are hidden mikes
Speaker 3: in the cabinet room, and there are hidden in mics
Speaker 3: in Nix's private office. They're like, are you feel real
Speaker 3: right now? So Nixon did indeed record the crime evidence
Speaker 3: of the crimes he planned in his White House because
Speaker 3: he planned in using that to blackmail his own people
Speaker 3: if they ever try to turn against him and be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I've got evidence that you were down for this, right,
Speaker 3: but now everyone's got evidence that Nixon was down to this.
Speaker 3: So there's other bad news though, because Nixon's new attorney Journal,
Speaker 3: he names a special prosecutor to investigate Watergate. This dude's
Speaker 3: name is Archibald Cox, so he's subpoenas these White House tapes.
Speaker 3: Everybody wants to hear these tapes. That's like the newest drop.
Speaker 3: Everyone wants to cop right. So first Nixon refuses to
Speaker 3: turn them over. He argues that since he's the president,
Speaker 3: he has quote executive privilege. The tapes are his, they
Speaker 3: belong to him, the president. This is where the argument
Speaker 3: Trump is borrowing comes from. Yeah, Nixon holds a press conference.
Speaker 3: He tries to get America to move on from Wagage,
Speaker 3: which I think it's all time for us to move on.
Speaker 3: That's literally his quote, it's time to move on.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 3: So his VP, though Spiro Agnew, has his own tax
Speaker 3: evasion scandal, has to resign. So people are like, what
Speaker 3: is going on in this White House?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Nixon's like, are you kidding me? So the band replaces
Speaker 3: him as Gerald Ford, who happens to be this popular politician.
Speaker 3: Both parties like, everyone's like, oh, Ford's awesome he'd be
Speaker 3: a good new president. What if we twenty fifth Amendment Nixon.
Speaker 3: This is when Nixon decides, okay, I'm gonna go full
Speaker 3: Nixon now and he launches his Saturday night massacre. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so the Saturday Y masaker, if you know. This is
Speaker 3: when the special crossecutor who won't drop the subpoenas. Nixon
Speaker 3: orders his new attorney general to go and fire him.
Speaker 3: The new attorney General's like, bro, that will not look good.
Speaker 3: Nixon's like, I don't give a goddamn how it look
Speaker 3: and a He's like, sir, I can't do that, right,
Speaker 3: So the attorney general, right, and then Nixon goes to
Speaker 3: the deputy attorney general. He's like, I want you to
Speaker 3: fire the special prosecutor. Deputy attorney General's like, sorry, man,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to resign. So he quits too. Right.
Speaker 3: Dixon's like, well, somebody fire this will be So that's
Speaker 3: how he finds Robert Bork. That's how Bork interest eventually
Speaker 3: at the time he was a solicitor general. Bork is like,
Speaker 3: mister President, I am your guy. So future rejected Supreme
Speaker 3: Court justice candidate Robert Bork happily fires a special counsel.
Speaker 3: Now Nixon's got his active Attorney General, Robert Borke, looking
Speaker 3: for a warm body who will be the new special
Speaker 3: Council and slow this investigation. It's a legitimate constitutional crisis.
Speaker 3: He Dixon had the FBI locked the Attorney General out
Speaker 3: of their office. Really, Oh yeah, the US attorneys He's like,
Speaker 3: He's like, FBI, you will lock stuff down. It was legit, people,
Speaker 3: it was nuts. Meanwhile, in the courts, HR. Haldeman and
Speaker 3: John Erlickman and John Mitchell and some others from the
Speaker 3: Nixon White House are all being indicted, right, so they're
Speaker 3: all trying to now cop please.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And there's an eighth person known as the unin co conspirator,
Speaker 3: and everyone knows that's Nixon. So that's where we get
Speaker 3: that term as well, anyway to save his presidency. In
Speaker 3: April seventy four, Nixon speaks directly to the nation in
Speaker 3: a prime time from the Oval Office address. Right. He
Speaker 3: announces he's approving the release of the White House tapes,
Speaker 3: but there will be edited transcripts that were edited by
Speaker 3: Nixon himself. Yes, yeah, so still though he does what
Speaker 3: he does release to his credit, I guess there are
Speaker 3: twelve hundred pages of transcripts, and they revealed Nixon to
Speaker 3: be this mean, vulgar, spiteful, bigot. Nixon has a slur
Speaker 3: for everyone, like any group he's got a slowly would
Speaker 3: name me a group, Elizabeth, I know that, right. He
Speaker 3: really loves to run down Kissinger. I'm like, one thing
Speaker 3: I apparently was like I didn't see that. He's like, oh,
Speaker 3: he hates Kissing. He's always talking baud about Kissinger. Anyway,
Speaker 3: Nixon still won't give up power. Now that everybody can
Speaker 3: see what a venal jerky is, he takes his case
Speaker 3: to the Supreme Court. He's like, I want justice. So
Speaker 3: Nixon goes and he asks them to hear his case.
Speaker 3: The case is Unite States versus Richard Nixon. Supreme Court
Speaker 3: rules eight to zero against him. Yeah, boom right, it's
Speaker 3: a unanimous decision that rules that the president must release
Speaker 3: the tapes. This is now July twenty fourth, nineteen seventy four. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: at this point, Nixon is out of the country. He
Speaker 3: has he's bouncing around the globe like Diddy on the run. Right,
Speaker 3: He's like, can't catch men, right. Nixon stays busy. He goes,
Speaker 3: he meets with Soviet Premier Leonid Brezhnev right at a summit. Right,
Speaker 3: these two old men are like bounce around, like re member,
Speaker 3: cold War is so much easier, right. The Soviets though,
Speaker 3: Like he's like trying to work a deal with the Soviets,
Speaker 3: but the Soviets are like, why would we deal with you?
Speaker 3: You're done, my friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So Nixon, though, returns home to the US Congress is
Speaker 3: talking now about impeachment full stop. Right, They vote to
Speaker 3: move forward on impeachment. They recommend articles of impeachment. Nixon
Speaker 3: bets that the Senate will save him, they will quit.
Speaker 3: So on October fifth, nineteen seventy four, Nixon finally releases
Speaker 3: the full tapes. He's like, all right, here you go,
Speaker 3: just like the Supreme Court insisted. Now, among the release tapes,
Speaker 3: there's one tape in particular of Nixon and Haldeman plotting
Speaker 3: to use the CIA to stonewall the FBI. This plan
Speaker 3: was to false, false acclaim that Watergate is a medal
Speaker 3: of National security.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: At one point, Nixon says on the tape, this is
Speaker 3: a sort of a comedy of errors, and that they
Speaker 3: should call the FBI and say that we wish for
Speaker 3: the country. Don't go any further into this case period, right,
Speaker 3: So that's all. It's that tape gets known as the
Speaker 3: Smoking Gun. That's all, the Smoking Gun tape. When the
Speaker 3: tape finally drops, Nixon loses all support. Everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 3: he has to resign both parties, all the people. But
Speaker 3: still Nixon's like, I will not resign. You don't have
Speaker 3: to drag me out of this office now. At this point,
Speaker 3: it's the night of August seventh, nineteen seventy four. Barry Goldwater,
Speaker 3: who actually used to run for election as president and
Speaker 3: lost badly, he goes as the old guard leader he
Speaker 3: got the Republican Party. He goes in. He takes a
Speaker 3: late night trip over to the White House.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: He brings a couple of other congressmen with him for backup,
Speaker 3: and they tell Nixon he will be impeached by the House.
Speaker 3: There's no question he's lost the votes. He will be
Speaker 3: convicted by the Senate. They don't have the votes there either,
Speaker 3: and he will be removed from office in an embarrassing
Speaker 3: shame on the national stage, if not the world stage.
Speaker 3: Nixon's like, oh, okay, sorry to see you guys. Go
Speaker 3: sends them out right The next day, August eighth, nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy four, fifty years ago, Americans gathered to watch the
Speaker 3: news when Nixon sat down for a televised address from
Speaker 3: the Oval Office, and President Nixon says.
Speaker 6: To continue to fight through the months ahead for my
Speaker 6: personal vindication would almost totally absorb the time and attention
Speaker 6: of both the President and the Congress in a period
Speaker 6: when our entire focus should be on the great issues
Speaker 6: a piece abroad and prosperity without inflation at home. Therefore,
Speaker 6: I shall resign the presidency affective. At noon tomorrow, Vice
Speaker 6: President Ford will be sworn in as president. At that
Speaker 6: are in this office.
Speaker 3: Just like that, it was over, Elizabeth amazing. Now newly
Speaker 3: sworn in President, President Ford tells the nation, our long
Speaker 3: national nightmare is over. Oh yeah now. In total, the
Speaker 3: Watergate scandal took down Nixon and sixty nine other people.
Speaker 3: Nice so John Mitchell, a former attorney generally United States.
Speaker 3: He gets a four year sentence. Erlikman gets eighteen months
Speaker 3: in prison. Haled him in. He spends eighteen months in prison.
Speaker 3: John Dean gets four months in prison because he flips
Speaker 3: on everybody. G Gordon Liddy does four and a half
Speaker 3: years inside e Howard Hunt. He gets sentenced to thirty
Speaker 3: five years, but only does thirty three months. Don't ask
Speaker 3: me how that plays out. James McCord two months inside
Speaker 3: for Halio Gonzalez, Bernard Baker, Uchanio Martinez, and Frank Sturgis.
Speaker 3: They all get thirteen eighteen, fifteen months. But Nixon gets
Speaker 3: pardoned by Ford, though does no time inside, and then
Speaker 3: the stand of Watergate attaches itself to Ford and he
Speaker 3: loses his seventy sixty Jimmy Carter Boom Gerald Ford is
Speaker 3: the final victim of Nixon's humorous and there you go.
Speaker 3: That's Watergate, Elizabeth. What's our ridiculous takeaway?
Speaker 2: There? I think two things. One is we think we
Speaker 2: live in chaotic times. Now, this is before watergates, before
Speaker 2: my time, and you just think, like, my god, you
Speaker 2: hear it. It's like, do we ever get I was
Speaker 2: saying the other day, can I live in precedented times?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: I don't know?
Speaker 3: You do? That was the precedent.
Speaker 2: But also then you send more specific how many watergates
Speaker 2: are there that we don't know about? Successful one?
Speaker 3: The more I investigate, there's a lot, there's a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sad, what's your ridiculous takeaway.
Speaker 3: The whole story. I just told you that was it.
Speaker 3: Take it all away. I'm after all that. I'm sweaty,
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