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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dutz Saron Burnett over there just hanging out.

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Speaker 3: I don't really want to know what you know, what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: I do what I want?

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Speaker 2: You sit down? Can you listen to this?

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Speaker 3: I'm seated.

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Speaker 2: It has to do with cocaine. One of your favorite topics, Uh,

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Speaker 2: Brazil and sharks.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we got this.

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Speaker 2: From like a ton of people sent us these articles.

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Speaker 2: Apparently researchers in Brazil. They went out and they caught

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Speaker 2: thirteen sharks. That's not a big sample set, but whatever.

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Speaker 2: All of them had high concentrations of unfiltered cocaine in

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Speaker 2: their systems. The level of cocaine. The level of cocaine

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Speaker 2: found in these sharks were reported to be as much

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Speaker 2: as one hundred times higher than in previously observed marine.

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Speaker 3: Life Sharknado four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all these Brazilian sharks and it's like off

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Speaker 2: the coast of Rheo Dejanio and apparently it's like in

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Speaker 2: their watershed there. So what it tells me is a

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Speaker 2: lot a lot of police busts were people are like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we gotta flush it.

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Speaker 3: That's what that tells you.

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Speaker 2: And then it goes out into the water.

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Speaker 3: It could work. Yeah, I'm into that.

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Speaker 2: And it hasn't like metabolized or someone's system.

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Speaker 3: That's true. That is true.

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Speaker 2: So it's like the stuff that people flush because the

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Speaker 2: cops are at the door. I'm with that, okay. And

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Speaker 2: you know what, that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: That is totally ridiculous. It is cocaine Bear. Four. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Sharknado meets cocaine Bear.

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Speaker 2: And then they fall in love with a hippo.

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Speaker 3: With one of the cocaine. It's like, can't we all

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Speaker 3: just be in love? And I was like, we all

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Speaker 3: have coke, you know, so let's do this.

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Speaker 2: It's just like a crazy coke fueled interspecies.

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth, Yes, did you know this week is? Yes, not today,

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Speaker 3: but this some point later this week will be August eighth.

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Speaker 3: Sure you ad August eight?

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Speaker 2: This it is the eighth day of August.

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Speaker 3: Good job. It's also the fiftieth anniversary of the resignation

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Speaker 3: of President Richard Nixon. Oh, which is the climax of

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Speaker 3: one of my favorite crimes of all time. Well, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 3: you're ready to hear the story of Richard Nixon and Watergate?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Am, I buckle up.

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Speaker 4: Buttercum This is Ridiculous Crime, A podcast about absurd and

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Speaker 4: outrageous capers.

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Speaker 3: Heiss and cons. It's always ninety percent motor three and

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Speaker 3: one percent ridiculous Nixon. Elizabeth, I imagine you know the basics

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Speaker 3: about the Watergates Cammel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe most folks know that there was a break

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Speaker 3: in at the Watergate Hotel. They know I had something

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Speaker 3: to do with Richard Nixon and like either his re

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Speaker 3: election campaign or if you know what bit more of

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Speaker 3: the committee to re elect the president aka creep. Most

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Speaker 3: folks have heard of Woodward and Bernstein, right, do you imagine?

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Speaker 3: Do you think people know deep Throat?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think probably more than would know Woodward in Bernstein.

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Speaker 3: You think, well, I mean, yeah, I don't know. That's

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Speaker 3: why I'm asking you. I don't so, but I just

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Speaker 3: want to tell you, Elizabeth, this story goes so much further,

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Speaker 3: and it's so damn ridiculous. So I'm just gonna tell

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Speaker 3: you all the highlights of Watergate Crime. Excellent, Okay, Now

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Speaker 3: for research, I watched All the President's Men. That's all

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Speaker 3: I did. Great, I watched it, and I'm kidding. I

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Speaker 3: also watched that Oliver Stone movie Nixon. Okay, no, I

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Speaker 3: didn't watch that one actually, but whatever thrill I know, right,

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Speaker 3: I'm lying like my man Nixon, just right out the gate.

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Speaker 3: So let's get into some American history. Yes on the

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Speaker 3: morning of June eighteenth, nineteen seventy two, inside the Sunday

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Speaker 3: morning edition of the Washington Post, there's this news story

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Speaker 3: written by veteran crime reporter Alfred E. Lewis. The story

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Speaker 3: runs on the front page. A little story, though, runs

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Speaker 3: on the front page, and it says, quote, five men,

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Speaker 3: being Washington DC. Yeah, that's not all, Elizabeth Old Vett

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Speaker 3: reporter Alfred E. Lewis. He included particularly interesting revelations such

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Speaker 3: as and I quote, police said the men had with

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Speaker 3: lock picks and door Jimmy's also twenty three hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: And one of the guys is like, look, it's cool,

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Speaker 2: I'm in the CIA. I thought they didn't go around

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Speaker 3: One would think that, right.

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Speaker 3: The men they all get a rando in court that

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Speaker 3: So when asked what they do for a living, one

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Speaker 3: of the five burglars he tells the judge that they are, quote,

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Speaker 3: Judge's like, okay, Now, it turns out it's pretty much

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Speaker 3: anti communist. Yeah. The five men were Edward Martin of

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Speaker 3: was also Frank Sturgis of Miami. He is a man

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Speaker 3: who shows up in all sorts of things, like allegations

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Speaker 3: There is Uhennio R. Martinez of Miami, a licensed real

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Speaker 3: There's Verhelio R. Gonzalez of Miami, described as quote a

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Speaker 3: also of Miami, whose wife set her husband told her

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Speaker 3: by three am, that it might mean he was in

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Speaker 3: trouble Elizabeth. He was one hundred percent in trouble. So

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Speaker 3: what happens next is this is the Watergate break in Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: Do you know the name G. Gordon Liddy?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I do? Yeah, right, I figured you do. He's a

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Speaker 3: he was just twenty nine years old, G. Gordon Lady

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Speaker 3: became the youngest bureau chief for the FBI headquarters at Washington, DC.

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Speaker 2: How old was he?

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Speaker 3: Twenty nine? This brings him into Jay Hoover's whole realm. Right,

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Speaker 3: he gets brought into the Hoover Inner Circle. He gets

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Speaker 3: Ride the Whip.

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Speaker 3: Now sixty two g Gordon Liddy. He leaves the FBI

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Speaker 3: becomes a patent attorney for his father. Why it seems

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Speaker 3: become a patent attorney. It's kind of like, Man, I'm

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting change of.

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Speaker 3: It's not a challenging We'll just put it that way.

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Speaker 2: Even challenger. No, it's it's just like a pretty big shift.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Anyway, So in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 3: the band Steely Dan. Did you know they wrote a

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Speaker 3: song about getting busted by G. Gordon Liddy?

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I make sure to not familiarize myself with

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Speaker 2: the catalog.

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Speaker 3: I won't even tell you the song though, but they

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Speaker 3: call him Daddy G and the lyrics. Anyways, all this

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Speaker 2: I'm with the late Steve Albini.

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Speaker 3: I know you are, Yeah, Fan, I just threw it

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Speaker 3: out there because I know you aren't. Anyway, the busting

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Speaker 3: dirty hippies. It qualifies G. Gordon Liddy to help out

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Speaker 3: Richard Nixon's nineteen sixty eight presidential campaign. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but that's how it goes. So Nixon wins in sixty eight,

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Speaker 3: and this carries G. Gordon Liddy into the White House.

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Speaker 3: So now he's put in charge of Well, we got

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Speaker 2: Oh well, well that's you know, because we had all

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Speaker 3: The skyjacking, right, yeah, so he's the one they put

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Speaker 3: in charge of fighting the whole trend of skyjacks.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, when you need to fight skyjackers, get

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Speaker 2: a former patent line exactly.

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Speaker 3: That's who everyone sees that. So at this point, now

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Speaker 3: as I pointed out, he becomes the general counsel for

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Speaker 3: re elect the President. Okay, and that's the president being Nixon.

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Speaker 3: Now on January twenty seventh, nineteen seventy two, G. Gordon

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Speaker 3: Liddy has a big idea, Elizabeth. He tells his colleague

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Speaker 3: Then they also tell this other guy who's the Attorney

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Speaker 3: They all love it, kind of right, someone like no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: They think about it. Now, what's the big idea, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: Oh, tell me the big idea that was.

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Speaker 3: Let's play spy games like we used to remember Cold

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Speaker 3: War when we were young. Let's break into the Democratic

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Speaker 2: I love that. They're like, hmmm, I don't know, Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you think about it for half a second. They're like,

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Speaker 3: we should totally do this one hundred percent on pro crimes.

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Speaker 3: Let's do this, y yeah. So, according to White House

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Speaker 3: counsel John Deane, he says this was quote the opening

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Speaker 3: and the beginning of the end of the Nixon presidency.

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Speaker 3: Wait to go, g Gordon, lady. There it is so

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Speaker 3: First that Attorney General John Mitchell he resigns his Attorney

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Speaker 3: General of the US. Why why would he do this

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Speaker 3: that's what he did, right, g Gordon, Lady, he gets.

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Speaker 3: But in charge of the off the books operation to

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Speaker 3: He was the old school Cold War spies spy. Right.

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Speaker 3: The guy's name was Jack Anderson. Right, He was a

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Speaker 3: You you're ready to break into the Watergate hotel. I've

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Speaker 3: Well, he's easy. Anything happens, he would have called them

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Speaker 3: he radios them. They take off with their burglary tools,

434
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Speaker 3: but it's too late. At this point the cops are

435
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 3: on the same floor as then all five guys get

436
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 3: caught together. Shake down, break down your busy yep. Right

437
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 3: next day, g Gordon Liddy, he has to go and

438
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 3: tell his co conspirators the bad news. Like, hey, man,

439
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,440
Speaker 3: come to news. The five burglars they hired to break

440
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,239
Speaker 3: into the DNC. We're all arrested and we're hoping they

441
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,159
Speaker 3: don't talk. So what's the immediate response And from the

442
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 3: Nixon White House when their spykup goes wrong? Well, Nixon

443
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,359
Speaker 3: is first told about the Watergate break in. He knows

444
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 3: Nick it's a big deal. He's like whatever, so he

445
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 3: tells his White House, Hey, John Erlickman. He gets told

446
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 3: the news. Five days afterward, he sees the paper. He

447
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 3: sees the story in the newspaper. He's like on the

448
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 3: beach right reading the newspaper. He sees it, it doesn't

449
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,479
Speaker 3: make sense of it. Then later on he's told what

450
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Speaker 3: it means. In response, Nixon says, to the guy, oh,

451
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Speaker 3: who was the that did that? That was Nixon's response.

452
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: Right now, you better believe Nixon has a plan to

453
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Speaker 3: handle this fiastro. Nixon starts cooking right, so he orders

454
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Speaker 3: the CIA to run a smoke screen to keep the

455
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Speaker 3: FBI off of Nixon's trail. Wow, he knows who will

456
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Speaker 3: be investigating.

457
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Speaker 2: Ye.

458
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Speaker 3: So he's like, CIA, you got to get in there.

459
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 3: Tell him it's a national security So that's the plan now.

460
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,120
Speaker 3: And he also goes and has to have somebody pay

461
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 3: the hush money to the burglars to buy their side.

462
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 3: So they got to arrange that. Luckily, he's got this

463
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 3: whole committee to re elect the president. He's like, let's

464
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Speaker 3: run some money through there.

465
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So you'd say that Nixon, as I said earlier, is

467
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Speaker 3: the reason people think what they think about the deep state.

468
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 3: He's the guy, right because right here, at this point,

469
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 3: now you have the President, the Attorney General, the White

470
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Speaker 3: House Council, a bunch of former Cold War spies, the CIA,

471
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Speaker 3: all helping to block the FBI from investigating crimes anyway. Now,

472
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 3: this marks the beginning of the second phase that I

473
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,479
Speaker 3: like to call it, the cover up of the cover up.

474
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Speaker 3: Right in August first, nineteen seventy two, Washington Post publishes

475
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Speaker 3: a story that connects the Watergate break into the Nixon

476
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Speaker 3: reelection committee. The next month, all five burglars they get

477
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Speaker 3: indicted by a grand jury. So the story just keeps

478
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Speaker 3: cooking in the newspapers. All five burglars plead guilty. They

479
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: all dummy up. No one says anything. Indicted with them

480
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Speaker 3: are E Howard Hunt and G. Gordon Liddy. The charges

481
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 3: they get conspiracy, burglary, violation of federal wiretapping laws. They're

482
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Speaker 3: facing serious time. Ye, they all go down. They all

483
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 3: lie to the FBI. They say that they were just

484
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 3: doing it on their own. They're just good old fashioned

485
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 3: anti communists. No one ever hired them to do this.

486
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 3: They did it of their own militia. Just five guys

487
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Speaker 3: break into the DNC and plant microphones. So, Elizabeth, what

488
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Speaker 3: do we always say about lying to the FBI?

489
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Speaker 2: The worst possible decision.

490
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Speaker 3: It's the world. It's like a twenty year crime just

491
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Speaker 3: for tell them lie. All you have to do is

492
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Speaker 3: breathe and train the crime.

493
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Speaker 2: Right.

494
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Speaker 3: So the next month, in September seventy two, Woodward and

495
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Speaker 3: Bernstein are star reporters from the Washington Post. They publish

496
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Speaker 3: a series of stories that reveal how the campaign re

497
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 3: election funds were illegally used to basically and are connected

498
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Speaker 3: to this whole Watergate break in. And they drop a

499
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Speaker 3: bombshell allegation and I quote John M. Mitchell, while serving

500
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Speaker 3: as US Attorney General, personally controlled a secret Republican fund

501
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Speaker 3: that was used to gather information about the Democrats, according

502
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Speaker 3: to sources involved in the Watergate investigation. So now they're

503
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 3: saying the attorney generals involved in the paper booh, the

504
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 3: idea that the highest lawn the land is dirties. It

505
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: was a shocking allegation. In nineteen seventy two, Yeah, right, Elizabeth,

506
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Speaker 3: you know how Daniel Ellsberg wrote his whistle blower book,

507
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: The Pentagon Papers. Yes, he was a Pentagon employee and

508
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: he released a bunch of stuff saying that basically the

509
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 3: Pentagon was lying about Vietnam and here is all the proofs.

510
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 5: Right.

511
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Speaker 3: Well, he also had a psychiatrist, Daniel Elsberg, and he

512
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: would go and talk to him. Well, in response to

513
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 3: all these leaks that came about with the Pentagon papers,

514
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 3: Nixon formed what's called the White House Plumbers to plug

515
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 3: the leaks right and to also deal with any past

516
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 3: leaks and plug any future leaks. So they had them.

517
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Speaker 3: He had his team break into Daniel Elsberg' psychiatrist's office.

518
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 3: On that team was I, Howard Hun and G. Gordon Lyddie.

519
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 3: So now he's conflating and combining all of his crimes.

520
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 3: So now he's worried because these guys are going to

521
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 3: prison for a long time and they know about multiple crimes,

522
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 3: not just Watergate. So in other words, they know where

523
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 3: all the metaphorical bodies are buried. Yeah, So to contain

524
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 3: these spiraling scandals, John dened white House counts. So it

525
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: is told he needs to deep six whatever is in E.

526
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 3: Howard Hunt's White House safe. Oh right, They're like, what

527
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 3: do you I don't about, lawyer, What am I supposed

528
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: to do? They're like, oh, I don't know, get get

529
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 3: hauled him to help you.

530
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

531
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Speaker 3: I find it, arlokhim in. One of those guys got

532
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,959
Speaker 3: to know something, right, So he gets together with the

533
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: acting FBI director in the White House Council, They get together,

534
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 3: they break into the safe, they personally destroy whatever was

535
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Speaker 3: in e Howard hunts safe. Then he personally monitors the

536
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 3: FBI's investigation, helping to make sure that they're not looking

537
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 3: at the right places. Then it's chief of staff Hr

538
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 3: hauled him in. He handles the hush money for the burglars.

539
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 3: He comes up with the idea to have the CIA

540
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: block the FBI investigation. Next was like I love it

541
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: now Nixon's advisor John Erlokman, and he just flat out

542
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 3: lies to the FBI as just anywhere he can. And

543
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: he also doubles down and eventually lies in the grand

544
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 3: jury that's convened later on.

545
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Speaker 2: Do we know what was in the safe? No, never

546
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 2: found out.

547
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 3: Nope, we just know that it's destroyed. Yeah, so we're

548
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: talking high crimes and misdemeanors at this point. Just everything

549
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: I just said, all that whole list of what they're doing.

550
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: There's other stuff, but I'm just giving you the highlights. Elizabeth.

551
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 3: You can see if you can guess what these brain

552
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: geniuses do next to try to kill this story for good.

553
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: I cannot guess.

554
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: Well, you've heard what they're willing to do. Just to

555
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: a journalist for revenge and what they're doing willing to

556
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 3: do to disparage a whistleblower. Yeah, well their plan is, well,

557
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: stop guessing. You'll never guess that. Elizabeth. Their new idea was, quote,

558
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 3: we need to kidnap the wife or the former Attorney

559
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: general of the US.

560
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: Kidnapp the What does that have to do with anything.

561
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 3: It's just welcome to Watergate.

562
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: It's just exciting.

563
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 3: Her name, Elizabeth Martha Mitchell. Martha Mitchell. Yeah, she had

564
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 3: a very interesting life. She was a debutante, a kiamega

565
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: from down south. While she was in college in Miami, Florida,

566
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: she dated Al Capone. What I did not know that

567
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: totally sunny Capone. So she was like, yeah, dated him

568
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 3: and his brother. Now, if you recall James McCord, one

569
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: of the Watergate burglars, he was her personal bodyguard, right,

570
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: and that's why they felt that they could trust him. Well,

571
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 3: Nixon's people now aren't so sure if they can trust

572
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: Martha because John Mitchell knows his wife is planning to

573
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 3: leave him. So and not always how life goes, You're like, oh,

574
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 3: like a web of major several crimes over here. Baby,

575
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: She's like, I want a divorce home. So John Mitchell

576
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: he's in Newport Beach, California, and he hears the news

577
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: about the Watergate breaking. He hears about Baldwin getting busted,

578
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: and he's like, Oh, this is not gonna be good. Right,

579
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: So Mitchell knows he has to fly back to Washington, DC.

580
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 3: He tells his wife's security detail to keep her there

581
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: and keep her isolated from any reporters and away from

582
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 3: the phone. He basically kidnaps his own wife. Yeah, during

583
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 3: the summer of seventy two for the entire summer, at

584
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 3: least for most of the summer. In June, Martha tries

585
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 3: to get hold of a reporter who will listen to

586
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 3: her because she's been kidnapped. She calls Helen Thomas. The

587
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 3: political used to be in the front row all the time.

588
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 3: So Martha Mitchell tells Helen Thomas that she's planning to

589
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: leave her husband, the former now former Attorney General. But

590
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 3: before Helen can ask any questions about what's going on,

591
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: the call goes dead cring. It turns out a bodyguard

592
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: has yanked the phone court out from the wall.

593
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: Oh God.

594
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: While later, Martha Mitchell she sees a reporter from the

595
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 3: New York Daily News, who has followed a tip and

596
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: track her down to the Westchester country Club. All right,

597
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: the reporter, this woman, Marsha Kramer, got to give her

598
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 3: her shout outs. She's horrified by what she finds. She

599
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: finds a woman who, Martha Mitchell, looks bruised. She's been

600
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: rouffed up, looks like she's roughed up by gangsters, like

601
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: by Capone's people, Elizabeth. But instead it's a former FBUI

602
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,239
Speaker 3: guy bodyguard. Anyway, despite her bruises, Martha Mitchell tells her

603
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: story to the journalist the week after the Watergate break,

604
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 3: and she says how her husband, the former Attendee General

605
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: is all involved, had her in prisoned in a hotel

606
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: room in Newport Beach. He tried to escape several times.

607
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 3: She tried to jump from the balcony. She was getting

608
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: ruffed up. She was given sedatives by a shrink and

609
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: locked away. They're like, what the story goes out? Right,

610
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: Nixon's people tell the press that, well, she was a

611
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 3: hospitalized for a drinking problem, you know, blah blah blah. Yeah, right,

612
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 3: so they just they just credit her entirely. Yeah, so

613
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 3: at first, that's our first like attempted. The story almost breaks.

614
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: Everyone was like, oh, this woman's insane. When she's a drinker,

615
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: We're not gonna listen to her.

616
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

617
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: So anyway, the call to Helen Thomas in an interview

618
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: did do damage because enough people stayed interested. Now is like, wait,

619
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 3: the wife of the Attorney general is claiming all this stuff.

620
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: Some people believed her and that was enough, right.

621
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

622
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: Nixon himself even said later on, if it had been

623
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: for Martha Mitchell, there would have been no Watergate.

624
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: So, oh, it's all her fault keeping score.

625
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: Now we have Martha Mitchell and the attack of the

626
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: puppet people as the two primary reasons why Nixon was

627
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 3: taken down by the Watergate scandal. Okay, there's another reason, Elizabeth.

628
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 3: Of course, deep Throat. You've heard a deep Throat. His

629
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: real name was Mark Felt, Deputy director of the FBI.

630
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 3: He remembered same group that's being stonewalled by the CIA.

631
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: They're investigating. They know some stuff's tanky, so they start

632
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: leaking stuff to different newspapers, Time, The New York Times,

633
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: Washington Post. Funniest thing about Deep Throat, other than the

634
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: fact his name is based on a porn film, is

635
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: how He actually wasn't helpful at all in breaking the case.

636
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: I mean not really when you're going to go back

637
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: and look at it. The only thing he really did

638
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: was to tell Woodward and Bernstein to focus on the

639
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: money and to see who had access to the money.

640
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, which, like hello, I could say that.

641
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: And even that whole phrase.

642
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: It's a good idea in pretty much anything. Always just

643
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: follow the money if you want to figure out.

644
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 3: With queebono, right, huh so, but follow the money. That

645
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: famous phrase, Yeah, that's allegedly what you know, Deep Throat

646
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: tells Woodward. Phrase wasn't in their book. It was from

647
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: the movie William Goldman, the screenwriter. He comes up with that.

648
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 3: He that's pure Hollywood magic, perfect right, follow the money. Anyway,

649
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: So there we go, Ready for some more spy games.

650
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: Just a couple Yes, how they communicated if Deep Throat

651
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: wanted to talk with Woodward, I think, Elizabeth, you're gonna

652
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: love this. He would get his hands on the New

653
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: York Times newspaper that was going to be delivered to

654
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: Woodward's house somehow, we don't know. He'd draw a circle

655
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: on page twenty. Then down in that same corner of

656
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: that same page, would be a hand drawn clock. That

657
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: clock would give the time that Deep Throat wanted to

658
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: meet right now. If Woodward wanted to speak to Deep Throat,

659
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: he'd place a red flag in his old flower pot.

660
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: He'd place the flower pot on his balcony at the rear.

661
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: If he returned home and the flower pod had been moved,

662
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: that meant that they were to meet at their usual spot. Now.

663
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: Fun fact that twenty eleven, the site where they met,

664
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: this underground garage was marked with a historical plaque to

665
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: denote the significance of this spot in American history. Six

666
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: years later, in twenty seventeen, the garage was destroyed by

667
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: new developers. Anyway, my point, the Washington Post isn't the

668
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 3: only one covering this story. The New York Times is

669
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: on It Time, is on It Time magazine. Yeah, but

670
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: regardless of all these competing scoops between them, other papers

671
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: around the country, they're mostly ignoring Watergate. They just see

672
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: like La Times, Philadelphia Quirer, Chicago Tribune. They're all just

673
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: acting like it's it's not really, it's a non story.

674
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: So they just report the White House's denials of the

675
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: scoops from the other papers. So the Post puts out

676
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: a claim White House because then they just report Nixon

677
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: just just you know, yeah, exactly, So at this point,

678
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: the Watergate story isn't coming anywhere near to touching Nixon

679
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: or his White House. Then comes the end of the

680
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 3: summer and the autumn, and with that the presidential election

681
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: of nineteen seventy two. Yeah, non November seventh, nineteen seventy two,

682
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: Richard Dixon is reelected. He defeats George McGovern Elizabeth a landslide,

683
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: one of the biggest electoral ass kickings in all of

684
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: you has history prior to Reagan. Right now that he'd

685
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 3: won reelection in a major landslide, Nixon felt he has

686
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: solid proof that he is untouchable. It's retribution time, right,

687
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: Nixon decides this gives his team legit reason to order

688
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: the assassination of his enemies. That's when he goes go

689
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: kill Jack Anderson. Right, That's when this happens. Is once

690
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: he's reelected, that's when he's like, why dose plumbers.

691
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: Get to it right and legal?

692
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. So he has his guys basically generally wreaking

693
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: havoc on the US. Yeah, so let's take a little break.

694
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: We'll enjoy some warm, fresh baked ads. When we get back, Elizabeth,

695
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: I'll tell you how this whole Watergate thing goes kerplump. Okay,

696
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: Elizabeth saren, we're back.

697
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: Hello.

698
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: He diging it so far. I am kind of silly, right,

699
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: all the weird names, all the weird angles, and like,

700
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: what happens? How did al Capone get into the water start?

701
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: So it echoes through time totally.

702
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, now we're about to get into not just echoes,

703
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: but like dar near mirroring. You're gonna just watch listen

704
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: rather Okay. So Nixon's team of cold warriors they're trying

705
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: to play spy games back home in the USA, right,

706
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: but they get caught with their pants down in the

707
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: petting zoo. And at first, after the Watergate burglars, they

708
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: played guilty. No one's talking. The story looks like it

709
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: may go away. Yeah, then e Howard Hunt blackmails the president.

710
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: Why not?

711
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: He's like, I want to You got to pay me

712
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: to stay silent.

713
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: In deep state.

714
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: He demands one hundred and twenty thousand dollars or he'll talk.

715
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: That's it.

716
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, but things are starting to go bleak at

717
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: this point.

718
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

719
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: Well, also, by the way, his wife died in a

720
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: plane crash ferrying money for these people illegally, just as coincidental.

721
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: It was like a huge No, it was like a

722
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: big American plane that just goes down, happens to be

723
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: on it, and she had like ten thousand dollars.

724
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: I forget. I started watching Scandal there.

725
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: So he's all broken up about that, and he's worried

726
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: about the future of his kids if he's going off

727
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: to prison. Sure, so that's what he wants the money

728
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 3: for anyway, So he thinks he's being a good dad

729
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: by blackmailing the president. So White House counsel tells the

730
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: president about this threat. Nixon's like, oh, well, I know

731
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: where we can get a million dollars. Because John d

732
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: You's thinking like, oh, I thought this is gonna be

733
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: a problem. He no, No, don't worry about that, you know.

734
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: So he goes, You're like, Jimmy Hoffele, give me Jimmy

735
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: Hoffele or whatever. I can't say if it's for sure,

736
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 3: Jimmy Hoffer. But as you covered, Jimmy Hoffer was helping

737
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: him get money. So Nixon had sources for dark money.

738
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: So at this point, Elizabeth, the cover up. The cover

739
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: up is now fully kicking in and it's about to

740
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: bring down Nixon. He just doesn't know it yet. So

741
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: we got about a year left of his presidency. One

742
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: thing we haven't discussed yet is why did Nixon want

743
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: his guys to break into the DNC office? What was

744
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: Nixon really after?

745
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: Well, wasn't it I think I talked about it on

746
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: another episode. Wasn't it proof of Hughes's donation?

747
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: Okay, this is the point. There's multiple debates, right, Yeah,

748
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: no one knows. And all the testimony for the grand

749
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 3: jury is the deposition for the civil suits. All that

750
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: comes out, all the memoirs written by people, Why did

751
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: Nixon want to break into the DNC headquarters? No one

752
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: gives a satisfying answer. So, according to the transcripts from

753
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 3: the case of the United States versus. G. Gordon Liddy,

754
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 3: which became publicly available about a decade ago the Watergate burglars,

755
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: they all testified that they'd operated under belief that they

756
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: were looking for evidence that linked the Democrats to Castro's Cuba. Okay,

757
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: but wouldn't you tell a bunch of anti communists that,

758
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: you know, that's just a cover story to tell those idiots?

759
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

760
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: Right, There's a different theory, which is that Nixon was

761
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: after j. Anthony Lucas, former New York Times journalist. He

762
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: works as a history professor at Texas A and M.

763
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: He put forth the idea this is that Woodward and

764
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: Bernstein were wrong and that their version of events, Dixon

765
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: wanted to bug the phone of the chairman of the

766
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: DNC to find out if there was a legal fundraising

767
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: going on by the Democrats. It's like, I know we're cheating,

768
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 3: so they must be cheating too. It's kind of their logic, right, Yeah.

769
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: But professor nicktur he's the guy from Texas A and M.

770
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: And J.

771
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 3: Anthony Lucas is New York Times journalist. They both put

772
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: for the idea that it was the Democratic leadership was

773
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: involved in prostitution and that the Nixon was trying to

774
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 3: get dirt on the Democrats for their sex worker problem.

775
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: They were having all these like dirty sex parties which.

776
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: They had files about, Yeah.

777
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: Exactly, which it just feels like someone Nixony. But my

778
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: favorite theory is centered on friend of the show Howard Hughes,

779
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: which is a theory you say, which is that getting

780
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: back to the fifties, Howard Hughes had been doing hinky

781
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: business with the brother of the president of the vice

782
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: president at the time, so he loaned two hundred and

783
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars to Donald Nixon, then brother the vice

784
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: president and future president. Then apparently he just forgets to

785
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: ever pay Hughes's back, like oops, so slip my mind, right,

786
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty comes around, Kennedy's people learn about this unpaid loan.

787
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: It comes back to bite Nixon. It gets leaked to

788
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 3: the press. Nixon's convinced that's why he loses to Kennedy, right,

789
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: and then he wants to kill the reporter.

790
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 6: Right.

791
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: Anyway, Nixon was absolutely certain that Joe Kennedy, the former

792
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 3: gangster turned usmbassador, along with the Daily political machine in Chicago,

793
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: Frank Sinatra and the mob boss Sam Gi and Kana

794
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: the Chicago outfit, and the Bob in Las Vegas, had

795
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: all conspired together to get cheat Nixon out of the presidency.

796
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 3: But what can he say about him? Beguise it because

797
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 3: he's basically going, you know, I've been cheating two so

798
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: they just what, Look, they cheated better than I did.

799
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: So he realizes he can't complain to anybody, But this

800
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: time He's like, I ain't look that happened to me again.

801
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: So at this point, you know, Nixon's like, Okay, I

802
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: don't know how, but I'm gonna go back to Howard

803
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: Hughes and ask for more money because the Kennedy's are gone.

804
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: It's sixty eight, right, So he goes back and Howard

805
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: Hughes between sixty eight and seventy Howard Hughes withdraws a

806
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 3: half million dollars and he slides it to his man,

807
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 3: Dick Nixon through his brother, and apparently the Democrats get

808
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: some evidence that get wind of this. They get evidence

809
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: and then there's this is the evidence they planned to

810
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 3: use to knock him out in seventy two, so just

811
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: like they had in sixty So Nixon's like, no, it

812
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 3: ain't happening. So he then says, break into Watergate, get

813
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: me that evidence, which is the theory. You go, yeah,

814
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: we don't know if that's the case, because we don't

815
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 3: know what's in he Howard hunt Safe, We don't know what.

816
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: There's a lot of not knowns, right, but there are.

817
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: The unknowns and the.

818
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: Totally oh speaking of co conspirators. Anyway, we'll get to

819
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: the Ford White House in a second in Donald Rumsfeld.

820
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: But so did Nixon pull Watergate to recover evidence of

821
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: Howard Hughes and his Nixon's dark money trail?

822
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: Why not?

823
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: I like to believe it so much as go with that.

824
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: What about all of the above, all of them.

825
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: Exactly thinking they were just trying to do everything. What

826
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: drugs were popular? Like what drugs was Nixon and his

827
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: boys on at the time? A lot of speed? Yeah,

828
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: like dexa dream pre adderall type pills from what I've

829
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 3: been finding, But I don't know. I didn't really look

830
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: into that.

831
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: Time.

832
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: So this point, it's September, right, Uh, The Washington Post

833
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: reports that former Attorney General John Mitchell, while I was

834
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 3: in office, I told you, was in charge of a

835
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: secret Republican slush find right. So then a week later

836
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 3: in October would Bernstein. They do have a follow up

837
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: story that claims the FBI is corroborating that the Watergate

838
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: burglars were indeed acting on behalf of the Nixon re

839
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: election campaign. This point, the story starts to cook, but

840
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 3: Nixon still goes to landslide election in November seventy two.

841
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 3: Then comes January seventy three, age fifty one, Nixon gets

842
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 3: sworn in as president for his second term fifty one.

843
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: That's all he was his second term.

844
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 2: He reads altered.

845
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean yeah, right know? Right now. To celebrate,

846
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: he listens to the National Symphony Orchestra played for him

847
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: Beethoven's Fifth Symphony, right, and it's technically, by the way,

848
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: his fourth time being sworn in with the oath of office,

849
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: because he was VP for Eisenhower twice, is his second

850
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: time being sworn in. He's the only person in US

851
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: history to be sworn with the oath of office four times. Anyway.

852
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: Ten days later, the five Watergate burglars are found guilty.

853
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: Right now, he's like this, He's like, I can get

854
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: around this. At this point, he thinks this is pure politics.

855
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: He's just gonna fight it hard, right, So this seems

856
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: to be a shock though for one of the burglars,

857
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 3: and one James Bicord, he has a change of heart.

858
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: He's like, I am a former FBI agent. I am

859
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 3: not going down for Nixon. Right, So when he goes

860
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: like full Johnny Utah in nineteen sixty style. The day

861
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: of the sentencing, he tells the judge he perjured himself

862
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: and he has secret details that go all the way

863
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: to the White House. Right newspapers they hear this, they

864
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: go nuts. They finally go wild on this story because

865
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 3: now the Watergate story is sexy because the former spy

866
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: guy says, I'm gonna blow the cover off the deep state.

867
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right.

868
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Nixon's lawyer, White House Counsel John Dene, he can

869
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: sense the danger swirling all around the presidency. So in

870
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 3: March he's told to write up a report that says

871
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 3: Nixon is innocent of any wrongdoing with the Watergate break in.

872
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 3: John Dene gets the sense that he's being set up.

873
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: He's like, wait a minute. So instead of his plan

874
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: for him the White House Counsel and the former Attorney

875
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: General John Mitchell, and the Chief of Staff Halderman, and

876
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: White House eight earlomen To all go to the Department

877
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: of Justice together and tell the truth on what they

878
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: did and resigned at the same time. He thinks he

879
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 3: can save the presidency. That's his plan. Instead, he's got

880
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: other competing plans, namely the one which is save John Dene,

881
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: so that that's the one that makes him go to

882
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: the US Attorney and start asking about if I got

883
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: a deal what would I have to tell you guys.

884
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 3: So he starts talking to the US attorney about saving

885
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: John Dene. Around the same time, he goes to Chief

886
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: of Staff HR Haldeman says, I'm thinking about talking to

887
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: the DOJ right now. What does Haldaman do? If you

888
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 3: know anything about Haldiman? He, by the way, calls himself

889
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: the President's son of a bitch. That's his own nickname

890
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 3: for his role in life. He and so Haldeman right

891
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: hand to Nixon. He says to John Dene, I think

892
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: you ought to think about it, because once the toothpaste

893
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: is out of the tube, it's hard to get back in.

894
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: What a weird threat.

895
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: It's basically like you can't unring that bell, but unringing.

896
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: A bell is such a deeper threat. There's violence involved.

897
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: You got to hit a bell or shake a belt.

898
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 3: It's just a weird one.

899
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 6: For me.

900
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, domestic guy, I'm real scared of

901
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 3: you anyway. At this point, John Dene he he goes

902
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: to confront the big man himself because he's his lawyer,

903
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: he's White House counsel. So he visits the Oval Office

904
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: on April sixteenth, nineteen seventy three to go chop it

905
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: up with Nixon, and we have the transcripts of their meeting,

906
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you exactly what Nixon says.

907
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 2: That's because he tapes everything.

908
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: Oh yes, but Revan tell you about all that, Elizabeth.

909
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: I'd like you to close your eyes. I'd like you

910
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: to picture it. Elizabeth. It's the middle of the morning

911
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: and you are on your way through a busy White House.

912
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: You hear phones and offices with open doors ringing. You

913
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: catch snatches of conversation as people brush past you. In

914
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 3: the hallway. At a wide white door, you paused and knock.

915
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: The President's secretary tells you that the president is expecting you.

916
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 3: You can go right in. You nod, push open the door.

917
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: The President is indeed expecting you. When the door to

918
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: the oval office pushes open, Nixon looks up at you

919
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: and says, oh good, you're here now. You, Elizabeth, are

920
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 3: the White House Counsel to the President, John Deane. As

921
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 3: you take your seat across the desk from Nixon, he

922
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: starts right in. He tells you he's been thinking about

923
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: next steps. He wants you to write it all down,

924
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: a narrative for you to tell to the press. Before

925
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 3: you resign. That's his new plan you resign. This comes

926
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: as a surprise to you, but you've talked with your

927
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: own lawyer and you tell Nixon, well, my lawyer tells

928
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: me that you know, legally you're in damn good shape.

929
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: Is that right? Yeah, that's right, because you're not. Now

930
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 3: these is almost are ex transcription. Yeah, yeah, this catches

931
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 3: you off guard, Elizabeth, What exactly is Nixon getting at?

932
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 3: You came to Nixon today to tell him you plan

933
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 3: to resign, but on your terms, and also you expect

934
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: others to go with you, namely Erlickman, Haldeman and also

935
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: John Mitchell. As you two discussed past crimes and whether

936
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 3: or not Nixon is going to ask Erlickmann and Haldeman

937
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 3: to resign as well. It's obvious Nixon wants to keep

938
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: his guys out of the line of fire. Meanwhile, you

939
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: scratch some notes on a yellow legal pad. Nixon goes

940
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 3: over the events of the cover up. Of the cover up,

941
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: he suspiciously gives you a lot of credit for it,

942
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: as he protects his guys. You didn't tell me this

943
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 3: about Erlockmann, for example, when you came in that day.

944
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: I know he said Hunt needs this money, and you

945
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: were using it as an example of the problems ahead.

946
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: Then Nixon asks you, point blank, John, let me ask

947
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: you this. Let suppose listening breaks and they ask you

948
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 3: John dene Now, John Dean, you were the president's council.

949
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: Did you report the things to the president? What did

950
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 3: you report to the president? I would, I would refuse

951
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 3: to answer any questions as to anything. This answer seems

952
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: to make Nixon happy. He loves that. Okay, but what

953
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: about you? Nixon taps his pencil on his desk as

954
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,479
Speaker 3: he thinks. You're panicking now, wondering why is Nixon making

955
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 3: you say all of this incriminating stuff out loud about

956
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: what you did well, handing all the culpability to you

957
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 3: and downplaying his own. Then it hits you, this SOB

958
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: is recording this conversation. You're sure of it. Meanwhile, Nixon

959
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: is still laying out the big lie of who knew

960
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: what when and who told who what. As the President talks,

961
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: you look around the Oval office, wondering where the microphone

962
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: is are where the microphones are? Nixon seems a little sweaty,

963
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: like he knows he's lying to his own lawyer. You

964
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: listen to the President as he outlines his vision for

965
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 3: you to take the fall for the cover up of

966
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: the cover up of Watergate. Nixon plans for you to

967
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: resign as the White House counsel. You will inform the

968
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: press that you failed the president. You did not inform

969
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 3: him with any of the illegality going on in his

970
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: White House. You can hear the Grandfather clock in his

971
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: oval office as it grows louder and louder. The TikTok

972
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: is the sound of the clock ticking down on your future.

973
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: Then you hear it. Nixon says he wants you to

974
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 3: tell the truth. Don't lie, so believe me. Don't ever

975
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: lie with these bastards. The truth always emerges. You say,

976
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: we know that, don't we It always does. You see

977
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: it clear as a roach in a bowl of white rice.

978
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: You see exactly how screwed you are. Nixon is going

979
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 3: to gut you as the scapego for all the sins

980
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: of the White House. Now, Elizabeth. In that meeting, John

981
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 3: Deane realizes he's being secretly recorded. And this is also

982
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: the meeting when Nixon begins to assume his White House

983
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: counsel has flipped on him and he's cooperating with the DOJ. Walls,

984
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: as they say, are closing in. Meanwhile, Nixon instinctively knows

985
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 3: he's desperately in need of throwing someone on the fire.

986
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: Someone's gonna burn. Yeah, so Nixon, since John Dean just

987
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: noped doubt on being the scapegoat, Nixon calls a meeting

988
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: of his inner circle at Camp David. Right, and this

989
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: is in April, at the end of April, last Sunday

990
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: in April. There he cries, and he tells his two

991
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: most loyal henchmen Erlickman and Haldeman that they need to

992
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: fall on their swords. They all they end up hugging.

993
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 3: It's a really tender seat. Oh yeah, so and I

994
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: think Erlikman asked him, like, what do I tell my kids? No,

995
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: it's terrible. So on April thirty, at nineteen seventy three,

996
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: Erlikman and hr Hauledeman they both go and resign. The

997
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: Nixon crime family is breaking up house sad right, So

998
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 3: what does Nixon do now, Well, Elizabeth Nixon's Gunna Nixon.

999
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: So he asks his Attorney general, the new one, Klein

1000
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: dinst to resign. Why because Nixon wants to pick a

1001
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 3: new one who will shut down this investigation. May sound familiar, right,

1002
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: We've seen that move. So Nixon he fires the attorney general.

1003
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: He appoints a new one. At this point, we're now

1004
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: into May of nineteen seventy three. The Watergate hearings are

1005
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: being broadcast by the big three networks, ABC, CBS, NBC.

1006
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 3: They all agree to share Watergate. By the way, they're

1007
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: not running it at the same time. They take individual days,

1008
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: so every third day they get Watergate. It's really weird. Yeah, right,

1009
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: so everyone in the US is watching. They just switch

1010
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: channels every other day every day. The story is now

1011
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: burning bright like a wildfire. His now former White House

1012
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 3: counsel John Dean goes and testifies before the Senate Watergate

1013
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: Committee on TV for seven hours, saying everything he knows

1014
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 3: in this flat monitone that makes everyone believe he's telling

1015
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: the truth. Now, he says everything he knows. At one

1016
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: point his testimony, Dean mentions how when he spoke with

1017
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: the President on that day that you were there, when

1018
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: you were him, he felt like he was being recorded.

1019
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: You remember that. Well, John Deane testifies about these mics

1020
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: in the Oval office. The Senate Committee is like, wait, wait,

1021
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: hold up, you're telling us Nixon made recordings of his crimes.

1022
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 5: Do go on?

1023
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 3: So it's July at this point when it all goes sideways. Now,

1024
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 3: Elizabeth quick question. You like the Law and Order? Do

1025
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: you know why Fred Thompson was on lawn order and playing.

1026
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: The d I don't know.

1027
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 3: Because of Watergate. That's when he first got famous. He's

1028
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: a young lawyer. And he asked the live on National

1029
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: TV if White House Assistant Alexander Butterfield confirmed the installation

1030
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: of any listening devices in the Oval Office of the President. No.

1031
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 6: No.

1032
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 3: Butterfield's answer is the beginning of the end for Nixon

1033
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: because he confirms for the Watergate Committee that there is

1034
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: indeed a recording system in the Oval office. He was

1035
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: installed in nineteen seventy one, and there are hidden mikes

1036
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: in the cabinet room, and there are hidden in mics

1037
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 3: in Nix's private office. They're like, are you feel real

1038
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 3: right now? So Nixon did indeed record the crime evidence

1039
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: of the crimes he planned in his White House because

1040
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: he planned in using that to blackmail his own people

1041
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 3: if they ever try to turn against him and be like, yeah,

1042
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: I've got evidence that you were down for this, right,

1043
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: but now everyone's got evidence that Nixon was down to this.

1044
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 3: So there's other bad news though, because Nixon's new attorney Journal,

1045
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: he names a special prosecutor to investigate Watergate. This dude's

1046
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: name is Archibald Cox, so he's subpoenas these White House tapes.

1047
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: Everybody wants to hear these tapes. That's like the newest drop.

1048
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 3: Everyone wants to cop right. So first Nixon refuses to

1049
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: turn them over. He argues that since he's the president,

1050
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 3: he has quote executive privilege. The tapes are his, they

1051
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: belong to him, the president. This is where the argument

1052
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: Trump is borrowing comes from. Yeah, Nixon holds a press conference.

1053
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: He tries to get America to move on from Wagage,

1054
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 3: which I think it's all time for us to move on.

1055
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: That's literally his quote, it's time to move on.

1056
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: Ye.

1057
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: So his VP, though Spiro Agnew, has his own tax

1058
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: evasion scandal, has to resign. So people are like, what

1059
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 3: is going on in this White House?

1060
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1061
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: Nixon's like, are you kidding me? So the band replaces

1062
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: him as Gerald Ford, who happens to be this popular politician.

1063
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 3: Both parties like, everyone's like, oh, Ford's awesome he'd be

1064
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 3: a good new president. What if we twenty fifth Amendment Nixon.

1065
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 3: This is when Nixon decides, okay, I'm gonna go full

1066
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 3: Nixon now and he launches his Saturday night massacre. Yeah,

1067
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: so the Saturday Y masaker, if you know. This is

1068
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 3: when the special crossecutor who won't drop the subpoenas. Nixon

1069
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 3: orders his new attorney general to go and fire him.

1070
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Speaker 3: The new attorney General's like, bro, that will not look good.

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Speaker 3: Nixon's like, I don't give a goddamn how it look

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Speaker 3: and a He's like, sir, I can't do that, right,

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Speaker 3: So the attorney general, right, and then Nixon goes to

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Speaker 3: the deputy attorney general. He's like, I want you to

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Speaker 3: fire the special prosecutor. Deputy attorney General's like, sorry, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to resign. So he quits too. Right.

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Speaker 3: Dixon's like, well, somebody fire this will be So that's

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Speaker 3: how he finds Robert Bork. That's how Bork interest eventually

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Speaker 3: at the time he was a solicitor general. Bork is like,

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Speaker 3: mister President, I am your guy. So future rejected Supreme

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Speaker 3: Court justice candidate Robert Bork happily fires a special counsel.

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Speaker 3: Now Nixon's got his active Attorney General, Robert Borke, looking

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Speaker 3: for a warm body who will be the new special

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Speaker 3: Council and slow this investigation. It's a legitimate constitutional crisis.

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Speaker 3: He Dixon had the FBI locked the Attorney General out

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Speaker 3: of their office. Really, Oh yeah, the US attorneys He's like,

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Speaker 3: He's like, FBI, you will lock stuff down. It was legit, people,

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Speaker 3: it was nuts. Meanwhile, in the courts, HR. Haldeman and

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Speaker 3: John Erlickman and John Mitchell and some others from the

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Speaker 3: Nixon White House are all being indicted, right, so they're

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Speaker 3: all trying to now cop please.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And there's an eighth person known as the unin co conspirator,

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Speaker 3: and everyone knows that's Nixon. So that's where we get

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Speaker 3: that term as well, anyway to save his presidency. In

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Speaker 3: April seventy four, Nixon speaks directly to the nation in

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Speaker 3: a prime time from the Oval Office address. Right. He

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Speaker 3: announces he's approving the release of the White House tapes,

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Speaker 3: but there will be edited transcripts that were edited by

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Speaker 3: Nixon himself. Yes, yeah, so still though he does what

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Speaker 3: he does release to his credit, I guess there are

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Speaker 3: twelve hundred pages of transcripts, and they revealed Nixon to

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Speaker 3: be this mean, vulgar, spiteful, bigot. Nixon has a slur

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Speaker 3: for everyone, like any group he's got a slowly would

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Speaker 3: name me a group, Elizabeth, I know that, right. He

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Speaker 3: really loves to run down Kissinger. I'm like, one thing

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Speaker 3: I apparently was like I didn't see that. He's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: he hates Kissing. He's always talking baud about Kissinger. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: Nixon still won't give up power. Now that everybody can

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Speaker 3: see what a venal jerky is, he takes his case

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Speaker 3: to the Supreme Court. He's like, I want justice. So

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Speaker 3: Nixon goes and he asks them to hear his case.

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Speaker 3: The case is Unite States versus Richard Nixon. Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: rules eight to zero against him. Yeah, boom right, it's

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Speaker 3: a unanimous decision that rules that the president must release

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Speaker 3: the tapes. This is now July twenty fourth, nineteen seventy four. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: at this point, Nixon is out of the country. He

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Speaker 3: has he's bouncing around the globe like Diddy on the run. Right,

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Speaker 3: He's like, can't catch men, right. Nixon stays busy. He goes,

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Speaker 3: he meets with Soviet Premier Leonid Brezhnev right at a summit. Right,

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Speaker 3: these two old men are like bounce around, like re member,

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Speaker 3: cold War is so much easier, right. The Soviets though,

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Speaker 3: Like he's like trying to work a deal with the Soviets,

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Speaker 3: but the Soviets are like, why would we deal with you?

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Speaker 3: You're done, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So Nixon, though, returns home to the US Congress is

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Speaker 3: talking now about impeachment full stop. Right, They vote to

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Speaker 3: move forward on impeachment. They recommend articles of impeachment. Nixon

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Speaker 3: bets that the Senate will save him, they will quit.

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Speaker 3: So on October fifth, nineteen seventy four, Nixon finally releases

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Speaker 3: the full tapes. He's like, all right, here you go,

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Speaker 3: just like the Supreme Court insisted. Now, among the release tapes,

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Speaker 3: there's one tape in particular of Nixon and Haldeman plotting

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00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 3: to use the CIA to stonewall the FBI. This plan

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00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 3: was to false, false acclaim that Watergate is a medal

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Speaker 3: of National security.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: At one point, Nixon says on the tape, this is

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00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 3: a sort of a comedy of errors, and that they

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00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: should call the FBI and say that we wish for

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00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: the country. Don't go any further into this case period, right,

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00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: So that's all. It's that tape gets known as the

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Speaker 3: Smoking Gun. That's all, the Smoking Gun tape. When the

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00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 3: tape finally drops, Nixon loses all support. Everyone's like, oh,

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00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: he has to resign both parties, all the people. But

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00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 3: still Nixon's like, I will not resign. You don't have

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00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: to drag me out of this office now. At this point,

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00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 3: it's the night of August seventh, nineteen seventy four. Barry Goldwater,

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00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: who actually used to run for election as president and

1151
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 3: lost badly, he goes as the old guard leader he

1152
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 3: got the Republican Party. He goes in. He takes a

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00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: late night trip over to the White House.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: He brings a couple of other congressmen with him for backup,

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Speaker 3: and they tell Nixon he will be impeached by the House.

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00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 3: There's no question he's lost the votes. He will be

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00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,479
Speaker 3: convicted by the Senate. They don't have the votes there either,

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00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 3: and he will be removed from office in an embarrassing

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00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 3: shame on the national stage, if not the world stage.

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Speaker 3: Nixon's like, oh, okay, sorry to see you guys. Go

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00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 3: sends them out right The next day, August eighth, nineteen

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Speaker 3: seventy four, fifty years ago, Americans gathered to watch the

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Speaker 3: news when Nixon sat down for a televised address from

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Speaker 3: the Oval Office, and President Nixon says.

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Speaker 6: To continue to fight through the months ahead for my

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00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 6: personal vindication would almost totally absorb the time and attention

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00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 6: of both the President and the Congress in a period

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00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 6: when our entire focus should be on the great issues

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Speaker 6: a piece abroad and prosperity without inflation at home. Therefore,

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Speaker 6: I shall resign the presidency affective. At noon tomorrow, Vice

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Speaker 6: President Ford will be sworn in as president. At that

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Speaker 6: are in this office.

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Speaker 3: Just like that, it was over, Elizabeth amazing. Now newly

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Speaker 3: sworn in President, President Ford tells the nation, our long

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00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 3: national nightmare is over. Oh yeah now. In total, the

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Speaker 3: Watergate scandal took down Nixon and sixty nine other people.

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Speaker 3: Nice so John Mitchell, a former attorney generally United States.

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00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 3: He gets a four year sentence. Erlikman gets eighteen months

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00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 3: in prison. Haled him in. He spends eighteen months in prison.

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00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 3: John Dean gets four months in prison because he flips

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Speaker 3: on everybody. G Gordon Liddy does four and a half

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00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 3: years inside e Howard Hunt. He gets sentenced to thirty

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00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 3: five years, but only does thirty three months. Don't ask

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00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 3: me how that plays out. James McCord two months inside

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00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 3: for Halio Gonzalez, Bernard Baker, Uchanio Martinez, and Frank Sturgis.

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00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 3: They all get thirteen eighteen, fifteen months. But Nixon gets

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00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: pardoned by Ford, though does no time inside, and then

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00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: the stand of Watergate attaches itself to Ford and he

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00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 3: loses his seventy sixty Jimmy Carter Boom Gerald Ford is

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Speaker 3: the final victim of Nixon's humorous and there you go.

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Speaker 3: That's Watergate, Elizabeth. What's our ridiculous takeaway?

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00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: There? I think two things. One is we think we

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00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: live in chaotic times. Now, this is before watergates, before

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00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: my time, and you just think, like, my god, you

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00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 2: hear it. It's like, do we ever get I was

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00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: saying the other day, can I live in precedented times?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: I don't know?

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Speaker 3: You do? That was the precedent.

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Speaker 2: But also then you send more specific how many watergates

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Speaker 2: are there that we don't know about? Successful one?

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00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 3: The more I investigate, there's a lot, there's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sad, what's your ridiculous takeaway.

1205
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 3: The whole story. I just told you that was it.

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Speaker 3: Take it all away. I'm after all that. I'm sweaty,

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