1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: What's up its way up at Angela Yee. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: I'm Angela Yee, and it is an honor to have 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: Judge Lauren Lake here with me. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 3: And it's an honor to be here with you. 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Now. 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: I first met you with WEEN, Yes, right, and so 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: let's talk about what WEEN is, because that was an 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: organization that you're one of the co founders. 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 4: Us Yes, Women in Entertainment Empowerment Network. Myself along with 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 4: Alicia Butterfield Jones, Christy Henderson, and Suprena Thompson started it 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 4: way back in two thousand and seven. We wanted to 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 4: empower young women. 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 3: You was there with us. I don't know why you 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: said that you was there the way. 15 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: I was like, whoa, y'all did it because I remember 16 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: when you guys started and you're. 17 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 3: One of our former WEEN Award honorees. Yeah. 18 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 4: We started to empower young women who wanted to have 19 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 4: careers in the entertainment industry, and we wanted to allow 20 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 4: them to see the vast nature of the industry, right 21 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 4: that it's not just with a microphone, it's not just 22 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 4: behind the camera. There are so many other opportunities to involved. 23 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 4: And you were a professor many years one of our honorees, 24 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: and we appreciate you for always riding for us and 25 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 4: for the young women. 26 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: We've missed that program so do I amazing And I 27 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: will tell you this, like a lot of the young 28 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: women that went to Ween are still like to this day. 29 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: I meet them all the time. We're killing it, yes. 30 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: Killing, And I'll hear Gia Pepper's, Shannika Taylor's, yere Brooks. 31 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: I mean, so many of them, they're everywhere and we 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: miss it too. But you know, life happens. 33 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: You get older, you get kids, you get families. 34 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 4: We had to figure out and we're thinking about how 35 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: do we do it in this new landscape? Right, things 36 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: have changed since the way we did it in New 37 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: York running through the New York streets. 38 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: And it was hard to get into. 39 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: I actually help with the auditions to you, did you 40 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: always judged you. 41 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 4: Used to be like five hundred girls lined up around 42 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 4: Harlem waiting to get in to audition and we'd only 43 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 4: pick about twenty five. So yeah, a huge impact, and 44 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: we thank you for everything you did. 45 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: Well. Listen to me, thank you guys for actually even 46 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: doing that. You have such an amazing background me because 47 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: you are so multifaceted, and I think that's important too, 48 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: because people have to realize none of us have to 49 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: be just one thing right. And so as an attorney, 50 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: we've seen you on you have your own Paternity Court show. 51 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: Yes, I had Paternity Court, and now I have We 52 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 4: the People Judge show YEP Court show. 53 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and yes if it's Paternity Court. But anyways, Lauren. 54 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: Lake's You're right, it's now. See that's a fun fact. 55 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: You knew. 56 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 4: Season one it started off as Paternity Court, and then 57 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: I was very grateful MGM realized that what I had 58 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 4: done with the show, I really made it my own. 59 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 4: And then they ended up renaming it Lauren Lake's Paternity Court, 60 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 4: and we did that show for seven seasons and we're 61 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 4: blessed to win the Emmy. 62 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: Now, you know, I love a good judge showy, but 63 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: what I like about you in particular is that it 64 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: seems like you really did want to. 65 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: Help people, and paternity matters. 66 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: It does, it does, which is my new show on YouTube. 67 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 4: I always say Court is a journed but the conversation 68 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 4: can continue, and I do care because people would always 69 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 4: say to me, and I'm gon be honest. 70 00:02:58,919 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: People will say to. 71 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: Me well, why you want to do a show you'dn 72 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: done all these shows the view Doctor Phil, this, that, 73 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: and the third why you want. 74 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 4: To do a show about porternity? Because those are my people. 75 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 4: I'm from Detroit. I'm representing today, putting it on for 76 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 4: my city. But I'm from Detroit. We are real people, 77 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: real issues, and I'm gonna tell you what paternity issues. 78 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 3: Now. 79 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: We know cross racial bounds, socioeconomic bounds, everything you see 80 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: paternity going on through and through no matter rich to 81 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 4: the working American, there are paternity. 82 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: Issues floating around. 83 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 4: We were all one degree away from a paternity saga, 84 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: whether we know it or not. 85 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: And the twoth to the matter is that there's no 86 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: like one size fits all situation. Because I've seen on 87 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: your show where there might be I saw an episode 88 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: that I actually had the privilege to watch ahead of time, 89 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: but there was one young man on there that his 90 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: father didn't want to claim him. 91 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, not on paternity matters, matters, On paternity matters. 92 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: My new YouTube series started. Look, I did it because 93 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 4: people were demanding, like, we still want you to do paternity. Yes, 94 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: we have a young man with a forty one year 95 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 4: paternity secret. Forty one years. He's lived with this, and 96 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: he knows the man they say is his biological father. However, 97 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: his mother admits and has told him he believes there's 98 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: four other possible fathers. And he's lived with this for 99 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 4: forty one years. And so that particular young man, Richard, 100 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 4: we're gonna be getting the answers for him. The results 101 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: show will be airing soon. 102 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: Cannot wait? 103 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Actually my heart goes out to him because 104 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: I imagine growing up and not knowing, and he. 105 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 4: So beautifully describes and I think it might be episode 106 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 4: two or three, how it felt, the rage that was 107 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: in him, the way he acted out, having to go 108 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 4: into foster care, right because his mom struggled with addiction, 109 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 4: and wondering like, wherever this father is, why isn't he 110 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: coming to get me? No matter who it is, Like, 111 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 4: why aren't they looking for me? The pain of that 112 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: that he's lived with And when you think about forty 113 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 4: one years, that's four decades to have that question hanging 114 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: over your head. And I'm so blessed. He wrote to me, 115 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 4: He wrote to me, and he was actually a person 116 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: that sent me an email and we were able to 117 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: help him. 118 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: And you never know how that affects other facets of 119 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: your life too. 120 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: Every facet, every facet. 121 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 4: So I'm blessed on that show to have a team 122 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: that really believes in helping people, meeting them where. 123 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: They are now. 124 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 4: In Paternity Court, I had to stay in the courtroom 125 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 4: on paternity matters. 126 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: I'll go to your house. 127 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: Okay, we have to lab with you. Okay, We're doing 128 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 4: all the things. So I'm very blessed to have Sabrina 129 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 4: Thompson Owen and then also Aliah Taylor as executive producers. 130 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 4: Aliah worked with me on Paternity Court, so we've come 131 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: together and created a show where we're able to meet 132 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 4: people exec exactly where they are and get them the 133 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: answers they deserve. 134 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: And this is such a big deal. 135 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: Another thing that you talk about is sometimes kids will 136 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: feel like, why didn't you fight to see me? Because 137 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: when the parents aren't able to co parent properly, and 138 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: then the father or sometimes it could be the mom 139 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: misses out on some quality time with their child. 140 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: God doesn't know what's going on behind the scenes. 141 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: The child has no idea, And we talk about this 142 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: as well on the show. We talk to fathers who 143 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 4: really go through the process of co parenting chaos and 144 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 4: what that means. And look, that doesn't mean that the 145 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 4: onus is always on the mothers. But this is a 146 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 4: show where we really examine and recognize great fathers and 147 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: also the journey of fathers and co parenting gets really tricky. 148 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: A lot of times fathers are absent because they don't 149 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: really understand the law. They'll think, well, if I'm a 150 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 4: little bit behind on my child support, I can't go 151 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 4: No no, no, no, that's not the law. You can 152 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: be behind on your child's port. That doesn't affect your visitation. 153 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 4: Now you better get something caught up or something, because 154 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 4: you could go to jail, lose your driver's lightning your passport, 155 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 4: but that doesn't mean you can't see your child. And 156 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: too often we have children who don't understand all of 157 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: this co parenting chaos that's going on. And I always say, 158 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: you gotta love your child more than you hate your ex. 159 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 4: You got to love that child more than you hate 160 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: your ex or hate something about them, so you put 161 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 4: them first. They are not in this constant tug of 162 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: war because it affects every facet of their life. 163 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: I wish you were here the other day. 164 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: I thought about you when Dwight Howard was up here 165 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: and he was talking about child support and he was saying, 166 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: he does it think child support is fair, and he 167 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: was going on about it and how some for some 168 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: women is a come up. 169 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: So I want to get you a thus I follow. 170 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: You and I watched that interview. Was a great interview. Yeah, 171 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: I watched it. I was like, let me ride up there. 172 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 4: But no, I think what we have to do as 173 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 4: a society is understand that you're right. Child support has 174 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: always been skewed in favor of the mother and now 175 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 4: which is usually the custodial parent. You know, through the past, 176 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: the mother usually is the person that has the child. 177 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: The father is the one that goes out and work. 178 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: Now things are changing. Having buried you took it right 179 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: out of him in my mouth. 180 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 4: And there are many other high profile women who are 181 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: paying child support for children and people don't really talk 182 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: about that. 183 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: This is real. 184 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 4: But I do think the laws and the way we 185 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 4: skew child support can be unfair. But at the same time, 186 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 4: raising a child is expensive, so that means we need 187 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 4: care and support for the child. But sometimes the way 188 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: child support orders are laid out, it tends to be unfair. 189 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: We have a lot of parents I do believe that 190 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: are over paying right in relation to what the child's 191 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: needs would be or what the income of the other 192 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 4: co parent is. And that is also a matter of 193 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: working through the court system. If you can petitioning, sometimes 194 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 4: you might petition for a reduction, and that has happened. 195 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: I think that was a it was a case a 196 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 4: while ago. I'm trying to call up who it was. 197 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: I can't call it right now, but there was a 198 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: case where a man did go in I think it 199 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: was a professional athlete that was like, no, I pay 200 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 4: for every single item of the kids that they need. 201 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: Everything is done, insurance, schooling, and I believe the child 202 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: support was lowered in that instance. 203 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: So it has happened. 204 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: It happened for halle Berry too, for her daughter. Yes, yeah, 205 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: she went back I think last year and got it lowered. Yes, 206 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: sometimes you're able to do that. Is there a way 207 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 2: to make child support fair? Because I know every case 208 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: is so different. 209 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: See, that's the problem. 210 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: That's the problem, right, because there's no one size fits 211 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: all when it comes to tie support. Because then on 212 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: the on the flip side, there's so many fathers who 213 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: barely pay anything and they're really taking care of half 214 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: the expenses. 215 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 4: Then you have that there's a lot of fathers, and 216 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: like I said, be clear, there's also mothers as well. 217 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 4: But there are a lot of children who are not 218 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 4: being cared for right where the child support is not 219 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 4: coming in. And then you have situations where the parent 220 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 4: may be overpaying. When you look at the case and 221 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 4: every single case is different, the issue is the court 222 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 4: does not have the bandwidth to come into the home 223 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 4: right and say, oh, so that mother went and got 224 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: braces for herself instead of braces for the child. 225 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: With that money. 226 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 4: They don't have time to do that. And then I 227 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 4: also think sometimes moms get a bad rap because it 228 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 4: is expensive. And I'm a mother. There are so many intangible, 229 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: you know, expenses that you don't think about, right, whether 230 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 4: it's the utilities or the travel expenses getting them somewhere, 231 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: or things that are built in that you don't know 232 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: they go above and here. 233 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: If you have to go to work or you have 234 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: things to do and I'm like, I need somebody to 235 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: watch my kid. 236 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: You know that's not free either. 237 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 4: Yes, and I'm a firm believer in men really fighting 238 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 4: for and petitioning for joint legal and physical custody. Now 239 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: that doesn't necessarily mean that that will cut out the 240 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: child support, but in some sentence, you know instances, there 241 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: is an opportunity for it to be lowered if it 242 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 4: can be proven that you know, the child's needs would 243 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 4: still be met. And I think it's important for fathers 244 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 4: not to just have the onus of paying money, but 245 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 4: also paying attention because that's what the child needs. The 246 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: thousand dollars can come through every month and thank god 247 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: the lights are still on, but if you ain't seen 248 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: the baby in twelve, you know months, the child is thinking, 249 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 4: so I'm not more important than sending this money. They'd 250 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: rather go get ice cream cone in the park and see. 251 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: Mother's got to understand that too. 252 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, what do you do in a situation 253 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: where the mom is like, I'm not letting the father 254 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: see this kid because I don't get along with him, 255 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna keep that Because would you tell 256 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: a dad, Okay, well you're gonna have to go to court, you. 257 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 4: Do, and you have to not be afraid of the 258 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 4: law and be empowered by the law. I can't tell 259 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 4: you how many clients I had when I was a 260 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 4: practicing family attorney. You know, young men where I go, listen, 261 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 4: you gotta fight this, And they be like, what would 262 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 4: I gonna go to court? And I go, yeah, Nah, 263 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: I ain't going up in court, you know. 264 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: Because look, and especially it's black folks. Don't nobody want 265 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: to go to court and everything. As soon as I 266 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: walk up in here on this family case, some old 267 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: tickets gonna come up now, all right, right, some old 268 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: misdemeanor and that, you know I have. 269 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: You know, we have a fear of the law. And 270 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 4: I think that's one of the reasons why I'm so 271 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 4: passionate about doing court shows like we the people paternity 272 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: Court and paternity matters, is to empower people with the law, 273 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: to kind of give them those legal lessons to say, listen, 274 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: if you caught up and you out there anyway, you 275 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 4: strung up anyway, you might as well go get you 276 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: a lawyer or find you a father's rights group. 277 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: Right, there's a lot of. 278 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 4: Activism out there and figure out how you can empower 279 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: yourself with the law and help you get reconnected with 280 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 4: your children. 281 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: Listen, I want to talk about even just more than that. 282 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: Like you said, you're from Detroit, Yes, right, and you've 283 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: also done some HGTVP I have, which I love listen 284 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: and real estate as well. 285 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: Yes, you had and you got some in the d Yes, 286 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: I got to read. 287 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: That building in Midtown. I love it. That's how I 288 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: was also super excited for you to come up here. 289 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: Thank you, yes, and discuss your passion for that too, 290 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: write in Terrier Design. 291 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: So real estate. 292 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: Always tell people I'm passionate about home life, whether it 293 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: is the tile on the walls, refurbishing an old home, 294 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: getting families in a home, or helping people establish the 295 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 2: home they've always wanted that includes mother and father and child. 296 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: I did host a. 297 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 4: Show on HGTV for six seasons called Spice Up My 298 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 4: Kitchens many years ago. 299 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: I did to make it the most important part of 300 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: the house, the heart, and that also as the most value, as. 301 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: The most value, and we'll sell a home. Get a 302 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 4: good kitchen in your house, it will sell. People say, ah, 303 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 4: wed that bathroom. But if that kitchen is. 304 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: Done, yes, you know, le biences, the colors, everything always 305 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: and there's always these different trends that are going on 306 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: that you're like, Okay, I like this, but maybe it's 307 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: not practical. 308 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: And then you can get sick of something you can't. 309 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: It's too bolds. You don't want to overdo it. 310 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 4: Now on the show, I used to do a lot 311 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: of bold colors because look, it's TV. 312 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: Every wall can be and you can change it, and 313 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: you can. That's an easy thing to something you can change. 314 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 4: But yes, some of the new things, Like I think 315 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 4: back when I was doing that show, the big thing 316 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 4: is when they started putting the office space, the little 317 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 4: desk nook in the kitchen. 318 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: That was big then. 319 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 4: I think we did that in like every kitchen because 320 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 4: it brought the kids in doing homework, It gave mom 321 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: or dad a place to pay bills, and again we 322 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 4: could get that whole family in there knocking out that wall, 323 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 4: creating that living space on the other side of an 324 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 4: eating large island, like that was the thing back then 325 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 4: and it has stayed because it brings the family together 326 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: in the space. 327 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: Where did all this come from? With you? 328 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: Like all of this entrepreneurship, all of this philanthropy and 329 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: everything that you do, because it feels like everything you 330 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 2: do is centered around helping other people. It is, so 331 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: how were you raised and where did this all these 332 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: values come from? 333 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: Thank you? I grew up in Detroit. 334 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 4: Both of my parents were educators, they were college professors, 335 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 4: and they were big on helping people live their dreams. 336 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 4: I dedicated Paternity Matters, the YouTube series, to my father, 337 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: who I just lost about four months ago, because his 338 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 4: entire thank you, his entire mission in life was helping 339 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 4: people elevate to the next level, inspiring them and encouraging 340 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: them to level up in their lives and in their 341 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 4: dreams because of the dreams he had as a child 342 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: that he was able to realize through education. My mother 343 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 4: the same passionate about education, helping people understand that educating 344 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 4: yourself and understanding the path that you want to go 345 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 4: is so important. My mother used to always say, it 346 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: ain't nothing to it, but to do it right right, 347 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 4: and my daddy would say, don't pretend to be who 348 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 4: you don't intend to be. And in both if those aspects, 349 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: it means go move in right, go into your destiny. 350 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 4: And I have just always had that same passion. And 351 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: like you said, whether it's home or me living this 352 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: multifaceted life, I really don't want to be in a box. 353 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 4: And I think people get themselves into boxes and don't 354 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: know how to get out, you know, you grow up 355 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 4: as a little kid saying I want to be a doctor, 356 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 4: I want to be a firefighter, I want to be 357 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 4: at this, I want to be an NFL court. And 358 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 4: then all of a sudden life begins to bring you 359 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: in right, and now what you gonna choose? 360 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: Who you're gonna be? 361 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 4: If you think you can be more than one thing, 362 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: you a jack of all trades and a master or nothing, 363 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, what if you want to be a 364 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 4: jack or jill of every trade you choose to master? 365 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: You are multifaceted. Look what you are able to do. 366 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: That's why a lot of things that you do. 367 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 2: I look at what you do and I'm like, that's 368 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: really the road map of what it is. 369 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: You know. 370 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: I'm actually taking my real estate tests in two weeks, 371 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: so I'm excited for that. Luck in advance pass on 372 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: the first time you will because I've been definitely studying hard. 373 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: You have to. 374 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: It's not an easy exam. I passed that, so I'm, 375 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: you know, awesome. But I look at things like what 376 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: you've been doing and I'm like, this is what we need. 377 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: And also, like I said, I think the philanthropy part 378 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: of it is so important. Just things that you've done 379 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: in that space, because part of how I feel is 380 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: the more that I learn and the more that I'm 381 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: able to do financially and empower other people. That's part 382 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: of why you want to make money and part of 383 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: why you want to educate yourself so that you can 384 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: spread that knowledge because there's a lot of pitfalls that 385 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: people can fall into. 386 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 4: And we've gone into this kind of microwave society where 387 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: people think that it all happens overnight, you know, everything, 388 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: life is so filtered for everyone. 389 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: Now. That was what Ween was about. 390 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 4: Was taking that mystique off of Oh, I'm about to 391 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: be a star in the entertainment business, Like no, you 392 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 4: about to work in the entertainment right, And I think 393 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 4: we still need more of that. And I love what 394 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: you're able to do through this platform and through your 395 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: real estate and everything that you're doing is show the 396 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: multifaceted possibilities for life, the limitless possibilities for your life. 397 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: But the work that you're putting in right, faith without 398 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: works is dead. We got to do something. 399 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: That's why I was telling my boy Charles, who linked 400 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: us back. 401 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, shout up to time. 402 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: I might need you know for Lauren to like call 403 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: in sometimes for some advice anytime, you know, because there's 404 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: a lot going on, like, for instance, with everybody taking 405 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: these DNA tests, yes, these twenty three and me and 406 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: African ancestry and finding out you know, I know some 407 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: people who have found out that their whole life, I 408 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: thought this person was my father's. 409 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: It is a lie and it is not my dad, 410 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: It is not mine. 411 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: And so like currently I know somebody who hasn't told 412 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: her mom the situation yet, you know, and she doesn't 413 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 2: know how to approach it, and she has to with 414 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: her because. 415 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: And I think that's one thing that I am so 416 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 4: passionate about. We have got to make things that we 417 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 4: used to be taboo teachable. 418 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: You know. 419 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 4: Paternity and DNA used to be things you took to 420 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 4: the grave. 421 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 3: You know, if you. 422 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 4: Put that in the vault, the vault locked. We go 423 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 4: to grave with that. That's your daddy, live with it. 424 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 4: We on to the next thing. That's not the case now. 425 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: Between social media people running their mouth all day in 426 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: all these DNA tests, you can buy even harder right there, 427 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: Like hold on one second, it's two names over here, 428 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 4: Like this ain't the name on my birth certificate? We 429 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 4: have got to be able to have difficult conversations and 430 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 4: so on paternity matters. That's why I kind of love 431 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 4: that I get to take off the robe and sit 432 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 4: on a couch, and I get to go in the 433 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 4: parking lot at the labor and I get to go 434 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 4: to the cafe wherever you are that you need to 435 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 4: talk about it, where you can get your folks together 436 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 4: on the fly. We gonna go because it is important 437 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 4: that we do it and show support to those who 438 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 4: need to do it. At the end of the day, 439 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 4: living your life with a secret hanging over your head 440 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 4: that thwarts your very existence, your consciousness, your spirituality, living 441 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 4: with am I not No one deserves that, And so 442 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 4: we have to use these tools to empower us. And 443 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: I think she has to find the curve to have 444 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 4: the conversation, maybe find another family member she trusts, or 445 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 4: a friend or a friend of her mother's and say, Mom, 446 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: I really need to have a really difficult conversation with you. 447 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: And you know the other part of it is is 448 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: this finding out that you have this whole other family too. Yeah, 449 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: you know, because he didn't even know she did talk 450 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: to her by they but then he ended up passing, 451 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: and now you know there's a situation with does she 452 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: deserve to get any. 453 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 3: Of inheritance issues? 454 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 4: We used to cover that on paternity Court, and we 455 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: that's some of that opporternity matters. Yes, what does the 456 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: will say to all of my children? 457 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: Does it name them? 458 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 4: You know they're gonna be issues rising because of this, 459 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 4: because of all of these secrets that are coming to 460 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 4: the light, and we need to, I think, begin to 461 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 4: understand that the longer we try to hold it off, 462 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 4: the worse it gets. And I'll say this, it is 463 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 4: very rare that I've had a secret come out. We're 464 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 4: even you know, because you know, we called the paternity Court, 465 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 4: but I used to say, on any given day it 466 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 4: could be called maternity court because oftentimes the women were 467 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 4: the keepers of the secret right and so when that 468 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 4: secret came out, there was the relief. There was often 469 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: like I'm so glad I don't have to hold that anymore. 470 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 4: It's a freedom in it. You'll see that when we 471 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 4: get to the results for Rashar's mother. A freedom And 472 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: just you know what, at some point you got to 473 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 4: step up to the plate and say, ain't no shame 474 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: in my game. I did it We're all human. We've 475 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 4: all been there. I used to say that in paternity 476 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 4: court when everybody be whispering when they say, oh, it 477 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 4: could be three possible fathers, I might stop and just 478 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 4: be like, y'all know, so y'all slept with. 479 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: More than one man this month? 480 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: You know you had a little I saw there was 481 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 2: one yere. She slept with her boyfriend's best friend. Yep 482 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: who that was viral, and that. 483 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 4: Was viral, and it happens, and don't line act like 484 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: it ain't happening here. 485 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: You just didn't get pregnant, so now you not here 486 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 3: at this podium. 487 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 4: So there are very real I think, connections humanity things 488 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 4: where we have all been betrayed, We have all fallen 489 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 4: short of what we thought our best selves, where we 490 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 4: have all lied. We have all struggled to tell the 491 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 4: truth in a moment where we knew we needed to 492 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 4: or we owed someone the truth. We are none of 493 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 4: us are exempt from being human, and so I am 494 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 4: the judge. But there are levels that I judge on 495 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 4: and then levels that I don't. 496 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: Because the other side of that, when you find out 497 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: somebody's not your dad, the person who thought he was 498 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 2: your dad is about to find out that you know, 499 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 2: according to right these results and you're like blood father. 500 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 4: And that's one of the things I love most because 501 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 4: you know paternity court and even on we the people, 502 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 4: we've had several cases where you could tell the fathers 503 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 4: wanted to be the father. We are able to show 504 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 4: men that really want to be fis not that you 505 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 4: are not the father. 506 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 3: And thereby. 507 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 2: Doing all that, that's why I always say I'm running the courtroom, 508 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: not because we ain't clown it, because this is serious 509 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: and there's gonna be someone here that's getting a truth 510 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 2: that they didn't know they were coming for. 511 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: And so I'm very proud of the. 512 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 4: Work that I've done because we're able to show fathers 513 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 4: who step up and they're the ones that file the petition. 514 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 4: I want to know their fathers that are devastated. I mean, 515 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 4: that's some of the shows that have gone most viral 516 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 4: are the ones when the fathers are just horrified or 517 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 4: the ones where they say, I'm gonna still be in 518 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 4: your life. That's beautiful. That's the beauty of being a father. 519 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 4: And so that's what we try to do each and 520 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 4: every day, is to show the beauty of being, of 521 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 4: being a father and recognize that there are great fathers 522 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 4: out there and. 523 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 2: For paternity matters for your YouTube show, are you going 524 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: to be doing follow ups? You know what? 525 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 4: This is so crazy and I see you called it. 526 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 4: We were just talking about that and we were just saying, 527 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 4: you know what, I want to make sure in season 528 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 4: two we are following up with our families and making 529 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 4: sure we're keeping people abreast because people fall in love 530 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: with our fami families. I was just posted today a 531 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 4: throwback Thursday of Fraternity Court with Sanchez Gower. Now he 532 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: was the young man. Actually his show was the show 533 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: we won the Emmy with and he spoke so beautifully 534 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 4: about growing up without a father and what that meant. 535 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: And somebody tagged him in my comments and I was like, yes, 536 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: I find you know, because sometimes you lose contact, right, 537 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: there are so many people that maybe their numbers change 538 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: and you can't find him anymore. So we will do 539 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: follow ups and we will stay on this journey together 540 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: because I want to know once we get this truth. 541 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: What are you going to do with it? 542 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: Now? 543 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 2: I want to ask you on the business side of things. 544 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 2: Having your own show now right as far as is 545 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 2: very different from being on a network very diff So 546 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: talk to me about that, because things are definitely changing. 547 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: I did a story the other day about how the 548 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: ratings are down so much when it comes to viewership, 549 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: and it's like at the lowest that it's ever been. 550 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 2: But it feels like people are consuming in a different 551 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 2: way right now, right well. 552 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: I owe this to my now thirteen year old son, 553 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 4: who basically said to me when I would say, oh gosh, 554 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 4: everybody wants me to do more paternity, and I do 555 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: paternity on We the People, but We the People, I 556 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 4: also do a variety of other legal cases. And my 557 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 4: son was just like, Mommy, you should just do it 558 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: on YouTube. I saw we watches YouTube. 559 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: I watch it, I. 560 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: Watch it on YouTube fact and I was like, you 561 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 2: know what. He goes, that's what we're watching on the TV. 562 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 3: You got TV on the YouTube. 563 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: Yes, And he was like, and you're all over TikTok. 564 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 4: He used to say all the time, like, mom, all 565 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 4: my friends are texting me, you're all over TikTok. I 566 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: didn't even know, right, And then I go on and 567 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what, people are consuming content in 568 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: a different way than they used to, and we have 569 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 4: to be able to meet them where they are right 570 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 4: literally and figuratively. So that's when we got that idea 571 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 4: to say, let's bring paternity matters to the YouTube channel. 572 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: Like you said, own it everything out of pocket. It 573 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 4: ain't no joke, honey. I mean, I'm dealing with things now, 574 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 4: just trying to pull episodes together and make sure we're 575 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 4: telling the story right. 576 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: And it is a labor of love. But it is 577 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: a labor. 578 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 4: Indeed, it is like birthing a new creation, and it's 579 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 4: not easy, but it's so worthwhile. 580 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: It's so rewarding when it's your own thing. And y'all listen. 581 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 2: If it goes great, that's on me. If it doesn't, 582 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 2: that's on me too. I just said that today. I 583 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: just had to take accountability. For some time, I was like, 584 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: that's on me. Look, And that's the beauty of ownership. Though, 585 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: And after twenty something years in this industry, I'm very 586 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: proud that I do now have. I'm proud of all 587 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 2: the work that. 588 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 4: I do, but this little slice is what I own 589 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 4: and a part of the legacy that I will leave 590 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 4: behind that I truly was passionate and purposeful about helping 591 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 4: families reconnect reconcile and resolve issues of paternity. It's something 592 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 4: I just love to do. It never gets old to 593 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 4: see someone get to know and to realize who their 594 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 4: real father is. 595 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 3: Everyone wants to know. 596 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: And one thing that you've said before, it does cost 597 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: a lot of money when people have to go to courts. 598 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and hire lawyers and try to resolve issues. 599 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 4: I tell that's what we do. That's why I'm always 600 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 4: in a couch one episode in a restaurant. Listen, y'all 601 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 4: better learn how to resolve these issues in the living 602 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: room or the family room and avoid the courtroom because 603 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 4: you get. 604 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: Up in that courtroom. 605 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 4: It is expensive. And that's the reason why. You know, 606 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 4: some people will be like, well, why they ain't never 607 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 4: get no paternity tests up until now? I say, well, okay, Well, 608 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 4: if they didn't go through the court, if it wasn't 609 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 4: court ordered or mandated, you got to pay for that. 610 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: And it's not just the little test you order. The 611 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 4: lab as well costs money to get the results. So 612 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 4: people don't often have the expendable income to be spending 613 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 4: on paternity tests. And look, when you're trying to avoid 614 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 4: a truth or when you got something, you got a 615 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 4: little shame about. It's easy to keep pushing that aside, 616 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: like I'm gonna do that next month. So we are 617 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 4: able to provide that service and work with great laboratories 618 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 4: that help us get results for families. And I'm very 619 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 4: blessed to have great partners. 620 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: Well, listen, Lauren, like, I love everything that you're doing. 621 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: Did we miss? Is there anything else? If we want 622 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: to make sure. 623 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: That, just watch Eternity Matter. If there's a new book coming, 624 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be doing a new book. I'm gonna be 625 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: doing a new book. 626 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 4: And we say, Charles now, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 627 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 4: I don't think I've even talked to him about that again, 628 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 4: but I'm gonna. 629 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: But no, he's gonna talk to you. Charles. 630 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: By the way, did like Nia Long's but Stephen A. 631 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: Smith people vegans so amazing. But yes, no, just right now. 632 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 2: The thing is is we the People is back on. 633 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 2: It's going to be coming back on for season two. 634 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: Please tune into that. Of course, Paternity Court is limitless. 635 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: I never get tired of people watching and sharing that. 636 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: But Paternity Matters errs on YouTube at Judge Lauren Lake TV. 637 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 2: That is my YouTube channel. I'd love for you to 638 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 2: tune into that catch up with episodes one through four 639 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 2: because episode five is going to be the Results and 640 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: it's coming soon. All right, Well, listen, guys, we are 641 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 2: on the edge of our seas trying to watch this. 642 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: But what I love again, Lauren Lake really cares and 643 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: she talks that talk and walks that walk in real life. 644 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: I've witnessed it myself personally, So I appreciate you for 645 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: coming up here. So glad, praying I never have to 646 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: be on paternity matters for any reason. 647 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 3: But you know, no, no, no, no, no no. 648 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: But I sent some people your way. Thank you, because 649 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: I get a lot of calls up here. 650 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 2: Please do and I'm believe it serious like I've had 651 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: eight one eight eight. 652 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 4: Five zero six five six eight. You can text me, okay, 653 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 4: I trust you, guys. 654 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: Angela Yee, Judge, Lauren Le thank you well.