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Speaker 1: is ty hilden Brand joining me over there and beautiful

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you? Ty?

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Speaker 2: I could not be more ready for today's amuse bush

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Speaker 2: a moose bush for the twenty twenty one college football season.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is here sort of. We've got five games

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Speaker 2: Do you know what a mooz busches? I'm going to

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Speaker 2: brag that I know what in a move. I have

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Speaker 2: no idea what that word means. Now you, I think

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Speaker 2: amuz boosh is like a pre appetizer bite, like a

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Speaker 2: very nice It's I think a French term, so like

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Speaker 2: sometimes you'll see it like a wedding or derv like

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Speaker 2: little bite ski. Well, that's what we got here.

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Speaker 1: It's week zero, A little bite Ski before us headlined

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Speaker 1: We're also going to talk through in our final gas

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Speaker 1: Yes? Do they still ask you that? Yes?

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Speaker 2: I've been asked less because I started saying I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I have to just stop short of saying

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Speaker 2: like I was, like, we have so many more teams

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Speaker 3: Can you see it?

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Speaker 2: So that next level is winning a playoff game? Winning

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Speaker 2: But no, I I've seen enough of this offense to

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Speaker 2: through which we're looking at them. I'm not down on

435
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Speaker 2: the Clones. I think they're really good. I just think

436
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: everybody wants to be pushed into a category unrealistically save

437
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 2: for like four teams. And I'm just here to say

438
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Speaker 2: I don't see it.

439
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I don't see it either. And

440
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 1: I did the preview on Iowa State. You know, you

441
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: mentioned what happened last year, and there were a lot

442
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Speaker 1: of close games. Now, two ways to spin that, A

443
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: they didn't have a killer instinct, they couldn't separate. Maybe

444
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: they weren't as good as their you know, nine wins,

445
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: whatever it was would indicate. The other way you could

446
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: spin it moving forward is that through those trials and tribulations,

447
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: it has built character among a veteran team that is

448
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Speaker 1: now better positioned to take that next step. I guess

449
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: I would I would say both hold merit to me.

450
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: I am going to veer on the side of it

451
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: building a little bit of character, but on them ultimately

452
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 1: going ten and two. Ten and two, by the way,

453
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Speaker 1: is not a failure at all. And I would state

454
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Speaker 1: of football, that's the best season. It would be the

455
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Speaker 1: best season in the history of the program if never

456
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Speaker 1: won more than nine games, as I said time and

457
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Speaker 1: again on the show, so ten and two would be

458
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: quite an accomplishment. Vegas has the over under at nine

459
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Speaker 1: and a half wins for the Clones, so they are

460
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Speaker 1: high on them as well. Nine and a half is

461
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Speaker 1: a strong number. What I just don't know, and what

462
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Speaker 1: I'm not confident in saying, is that Iowa State, with

463
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: all of its veteran leadership, with all of its returning production,

464
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 1: has matured to the point where it will not lose

465
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Speaker 1: a dumb one along the way. It won't lose it.

466
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Speaker 2: Then they still play Oklahoma State, and they have a

467
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 2: serious poke problem. So they have a poke problem. What

468
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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see, first off, we're going to

469
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Speaker 2: see a very early test of what Iowa State's made

470
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Speaker 2: out of in Week two. They've got the rivalry game,

471
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Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, against in State Iowa.

472
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Speaker 2: I don't think Iowa is going to be world beater

473
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Speaker 2: this year, but i was always well coached, and so

474
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Speaker 2: we will see pretty early on where this Iowa State

475
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 2: team ranks. Accordingly, we'll get a good sense for where

476
00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: they're at after that though the first a couple of

477
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: weeks of the season are very manageable. Once they get

478
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: into the real teeth of things, it's later in the year.

479
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: It's spaced out well, they don't have to go through

480
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 2: a gauntlet, but the schedule very much is backloaded. And

481
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 2: so maybe that dumb one is on the road at

482
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Speaker 2: k State, or on the road at West Virginia, or

483
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Speaker 2: on the road at Texas Tech, who I said could

484
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Speaker 2: be potentially dangerous.

485
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

486
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Speaker 1: We will see early on from Iowa State where they

487
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Speaker 1: stand in that Iowa game, and then we're going to

488
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: see what they're made of in a couple key spots

489
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 1: later in the year, the so called dumb ones, the

490
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Speaker 1: road games, even the home games that they need to

491
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Speaker 1: avoid losing before we can really christen them as that contender.

492
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Speaker 1: So I don't see it. I think there are too

493
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Speaker 1: many land mines here. To echo your point, though, it

494
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean the season's of failure. It just means that,

495
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Speaker 1: you know, having depth, having a talent to withstand this

496
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Speaker 1: kind of season. I just I don't think they're there yet,

497
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Speaker 1: even with all their star power.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah, how tall are you time five to nine? Yeah,

499
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Speaker 2: So if you dedicated your life physically to reaching the

500
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Speaker 2: point where you could dunk a basketball. I think you

501
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: could dunk a basketball if you're just like I am

502
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 2: going to focus an hour of my day every day

503
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: for the next year on increasing my vertical leap. Five

504
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: foot nine people can dunk basketballs. We've seen it, right,

505
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: of course, if you worked up to that point where

506
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Speaker 2: you are dunking a basketball, and I watched you dunk

507
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: a ball and I confirm, like, yep, TI just freaking

508
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: I'm confirming you have never dunked a ball?

509
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Speaker 1: Correct? Correct? Correct?

510
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Speaker 3: I'm six one and I haven't.

511
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: And if I watched you dunk a ball and then said,

512
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: can you go through your legs though, like can you

513
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: do a tomahawk? Can you do it with your eyes closed?

514
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: Like d Brown, Like I just dunked a ball. That's

515
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: crazy impressive. Can you just cut me? Like, can you

516
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 2: give me just a minute? And that's how I feel

517
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: about Iowa State. We're asking them to do like a

518
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: three sixty tomahawk when they just work their ass off

519
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: to dunk, and we should just appreciate them dunkin. That's all.

520
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Speaker 1: Let's move on to the Pack twelve. It's the question

521
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: we ask every year, do you see Clay Hilton as

522
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: the head football coach at USC in twenty twenty two

523
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: and beyond? Or do you think this is going to

524
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: be the swan song? So there are a couple of

525
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: layers to this question. Yeah, where do you stand on USC?

526
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Speaker 2: I could see it. I mean, they should have a

527
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: good year. It would be very difficult to get rid

528
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: of somebody and pay that buyout and clearly have a

529
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Speaker 2: plan for who you're going to replace Clay Heilton with successfully,

530
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: which they've struggled to do. And so I just I

531
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Speaker 2: don't know. I think USC having a very good year

532
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: is more likely than not. And so yeah, I could

533
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: definitely see Clay Heilton being the head coach in twenty

534
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: twenty two.

535
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Speaker 1: You know where I stand on this. Clayhilton's going to

536
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: coach forever. Yeah, He's going to forever be the coach

537
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: at USC. Never be a situation where they let him go,

538
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: Never be a situation where we stop asking this question.

539
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: He's always going to teeter on the brink us. He's

540
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: got a very good team this year. They got a

541
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: very good team this year. They have a very good

542
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: team every year. It's just a matter of getting the

543
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: most out of that talent. Now this year, they've got

544
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 1: an NFL caliber quarterback in Keaton Slovas. I personally would

545
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: not draft kids Slovis, but I think as quarterbacks go

546
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: in college football, he's certainly one of the top five,

547
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: easily one of the top ten. So he's a good quarterback.

548
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: They've got talent for him to throw to. Hopefully the

549
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: line should improve. I think us he's going to be

550
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: fine on offense. Hopefully they'll improve as well on defense,

551
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: even though there are some new faces, I think they

552
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: will be perfectly fine. I don't know what that number

553
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: is to get Clay Helton over the finish line, if

554
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: you will to retain him for twenty twenty two. I

555
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: think it's got to be nine. I think they have

556
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Speaker 1: to get to night. They get to nine to three,

557
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: if they look good, I think it's fine, But that

558
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: is sort of the lower limit. If they're at eight wins,

559
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: you know, we're having this common station in late November

560
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: again about if not Clay Hilton, then whom.

561
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Speaker 2: Sure if they go nine and three, they're likely losing

562
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame ASU and I don't know, UCLA probably,

563
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: and that seems unacceptable. Yeah, losing to UCLA at home

564
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: and going nine and three and potentially nine and four

565
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: if they lose a bowl game. My sincere hope for

566
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: USC football is that they go thirteen and oh, they

567
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: win the Pac twelve, they run the table, They beat like,

568
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Speaker 2: just really beat the hell out of a good Notre

569
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: Dame team. Just go to South Bend and win that

570
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: game thirty eight to twenty or something like that, and

571
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: they run the table. They win a playoff game, like

572
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: they comfortably beat I don't know, Clemson or Georgia or

573
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: somebody like that in the playoff. Maybe they lose the

574
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 2: national championship game. But when they win the Pac twelve

575
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: going away from like Oregon or something like that, that

576
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: Clay Helton is carried off the field and fle lips

577
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: the bird to everybody, a double bird, and then just

578
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: leaves USC. Leads them to a thirteen and zero undefeated

579
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: season and takes like the Michigan job or something that

580
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: would be that would be the poetry to me of everything.

581
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: Now he's earned the criticism, but it's been so overwhelming

582
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: and the expectations have been so out of hand for

583
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: USC among that fan base that running the table and

584
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: flipping off the coliseum as he leaves, knows he's taking

585
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: some other job. It speaks to me on some sort

586
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: of poetic level, he would never do it. He would

587
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: do you remember it was an Ohio State player who

588
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: did it after being ejected a few years ago in

589
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: the Michigan game. Yeah, that's what I would love to see,

590
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: a double bird. I'm just a romantic, though, I'm just

591
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: a romantic, right, Yeah.

592
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Speaker 3: You know.

593
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Speaker 1: The thing about him is he's likable. He's likable, and

594
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: he was an adult in the room when that program

595
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: needed some stability. I understand how he got to that whatever,

596
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: but that's so old. That doesn't matter anymore. It doesn't

597
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: matter anymore. And that's the point. We are coming very

598
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: quickly to that point now where I think nine's the number.

599
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: I think if they don't get to nine, it's going

600
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: to be difficult to justify holding him on for another year.

601
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Speaker 2: I mean, it depends on the buyout and what they

602
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: have lined up. A nine could be the number to stay,

603
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: nine could be the number to leave. I don't know,

604
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: but it's the number, right, It is the number for me.

605
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: Let's go to you mentioned Notre Dame and I wanted

606
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: to get your take on Notre Dame. Where Notre Dame

607
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: heads this year? Of course we did the preview. What

608
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: feels like an eternity ago. The Liberty Bowl is the

609
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: Liberty Bowl? Jack Cone? Are you a cone head? Are

610
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: you in the cone zone? Are you feeling more a

611
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: cone of uncertainty? Feeling more cone of silence? More just

612
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, ice cream cone. There's so many Cone

613
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: puns that we could go with. Right, is he the

614
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: missing link for Notre Dame? Do you see that?

615
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: Do you not see that?

616
00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: No?

617
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 3: I don't see it.

618
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Listen, here's what I'm talking about.

619
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Speaker 2: Hold On, he didn't he like shatter his foot like

620
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: a year ago or something. Didn't he break his foot?

621
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Speaker 2: Didn't he have like an injury that kept him out

622
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: all year?

623
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Speaker 1: Listen? You can't keep a guy like Jack Cone down, Dan,

624
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: everybody knows that. No. Literally, a foot injury kept him down.

625
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: You can't keep a guy like Jack Cone down. He's

626
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: a vertical threat. That's what I've been reading about in

627
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: all the college football previous He's gonna he's gonna provide

628
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: Tommy Reese with a new vertical threat. He's a different

629
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: quarterback than ian Book. He's not gonna he's not gonna

630
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: scramble around, but he's more adept. A's staying in the pocket,

631
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: training his eyes on a downfield receiving threat. Don't know

632
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: who that's gonna be for Notre Dame. But who is

633
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: he according to this?

634
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: Is?

635
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: This is practice reports, This go on the internet, man previews.

636
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: They're talking abo missing piece. Jack Cone is a missing

637
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: piece a different kind of offense, perhaps a quarterback that

638
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: Tommy Reese can get more comfortable with. I don't know.

639
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: I don't write this stuff.

640
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: I'm just you're posing this question as if it's a

641
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: worthwhile question.

642
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: Though, Is it a worthwhile question? Can you see Jack

643
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: Cone as a missing LinkedIn? No? Okay, why not?

644
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

645
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: I think he's a totally fine quarterback. I thought Ian

646
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: Book was a totally fine quarterback. And ian Book struggled

647
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: against the best teams in college football.

648
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

649
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: I Notre Dame's track record with quarterbacks recently is good

650
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: but not great development and they weren't even in charge

651
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: of developing him as a modern quarterback. That was at

652
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: Wisconsin where he led them to a Rose Bowl. But

653
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people watch that Wisconsin team

654
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: and we're like, Jack Cone's a difference maker. Yeah, Jack

655
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: jahen is the reason they're the rose ball, Like he's fine.

656
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: If Jack totally good quarterback.

657
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: If Jack Cone were the difference maker, Jack Cone would

658
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: still be at Wisconsin. He wouldn't have had to transfer out.

659
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: So I mean they went younger, and obviously grahmm Ertz

660
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: came in with a lot of the recruiting and blue

661
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: chip hoopla, but he won't have transferred. Think we're saddling

662
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: expectations on these guys. That isn't fair. We should just

663
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: appreciate them for what they are.

664
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: I don't think Jack Cone's the guy. I think he's

665
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: a fine quarterback. He did of a season, like you said,

666
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: did well with Wisconsin, had a season where I think

667
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: he completely close to seventy percent of his passes. But

668
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: I do not buy the narrative that he's some sort

669
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: of X factor. Now going into the season for Notre Dame,

670
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: I do think at some point we'll see Tyler Buckner.

671
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: I think that's the move. I think he's a future.

672
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: We did talk through also, the possibility of there being

673
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 1: a ty Tyler situation at both Oregon and Notre Dames

674
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: that's true, which would be the closest we've gotten to

675
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: the sOliver Bowl.

676
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can't wait.

677
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: It'll happen. It definitely will happen. With both of our

678
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: teams looking pretty good right now, we'll get a match

679
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: up somewhere. I just think Notre Dame is just like

680
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: Secret Wisconsin, aren't they?

681
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: Did they?

682
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: Jack Coane just make a move to like Wisconsin's East campus? Like,

683
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 2: isn't Notre Dame a team led by the ground game

684
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: and an offensive line and a defense and stability with

685
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: the coaches and not necessarily counting on downfield threats developing

686
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 2: and being a major part of the offense.

687
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: Like I don't know.

688
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: I can be talked into Notre Dame doing a better

689
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 2: job with recent receivers, but that's not what their recent

690
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: offense has been built around.

691
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it will look like Wisconsin, but

692
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: I understand the comparison, and you're not wrong. This is

693
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: definitely going to be an offense led by Kien Williams

694
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: Chris Tyree and a pretty good offensive line, and you know,

695
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: if they can get I think it's a good comparison.

696
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: It's a good comparison. I don't know if it visually

697
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: will look the same from an offensive philosophy standpoint, but

698
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: I think they're ultimately trying to do the same stuff.

699
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: And so I don't know who the downfield threats are

700
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: right now. The only receiving talent that I am come

701
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: up with it Notre Dame, is Michael Maher, a big

702
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: tight end. Hopefully those are the guys that I think.

703
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: I think that's the only receiving situation at Wisconsin that

704
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: they're comfortable with right now.

705
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: They're tight end, So we'll see. But no, he's not

706
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: the X factor. He's not the missing link. I have

707
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: read some of the quotes from Tommy Reese where they're

708
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: they're very excited about jack con and good for them.

709
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: I hope it works out. But as for the missing link,

710
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: the X factor, what have you know? He's not that.

711
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if Tyler Buckner's dead, I don't know

712
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: if Notre Dame's ever had that. Next question under Brian Kelly.

713
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: Next question Arizona State, Dan Arizona State. So I jotted

714
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: down here on our list Arizona State is the PAC

715
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: twelve champion, but let me get a little bit more

716
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: simplistic with the question, let's not burden them with such expectations.

717
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: Do you see? Do you not see? Can you understand?

718
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: Can you not understand the love that I've been feeling

719
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: for Arizona State? How I'm all in on the Sun Devils?

720
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: You see that I don't. No, I don't match libidos

721
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: with you. I don't have the fly pheromones you have.

722
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

723
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: I don't think they have the depth. I don't think

724
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: they have the star power. I mean, the PAC twelve

725
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: is not the most impossible conference to win right now.

726
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: Everybody has like clear Achilles heels. But Arizona State with

727
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: being down assistants and the distractions of an investigation into

728
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: their twenty twenty and their COVID practices, and then the

729
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: inconsistent play of the Sun Devils losing winnable games. I

730
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: don't know what the difference is this year now. I

731
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: like the running game, I like pieces on both sides

732
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 2: of the ball, like the experience.

733
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 3: Everybody has experience.

734
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: I think they have one of the better quarterbacks in

735
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: the conference, and probably one of the better quarterbacks.

736
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: In the nation.

737
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: Like top fifteen to twenty type guys. But no, I

738
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 2: just I don't think Herm Edwards is a conference champion coach.

739
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: And I just I think there are too many question

740
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: marks and there's not enough talent and not enough depth

741
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: there and not enough identity. Honestly, So I'm in on

742
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: ASU being a good team. I just I don't see

743
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 2: them running or not running the table. But I just

744
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: don't see them winning the conference. I think it just

745
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: takes more.

746
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: I think the depth is better than at any point

747
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: since HERM got there. That doesn't mean that it's enough

748
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: depth to win the conference, but I think there is

749
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: a lot to like. I know defensively, they feel really

750
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: good about the two deep. I feel really good about

751
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels, I feel really good about their rushing attack.

752
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a solid team.

753
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: I do understand the criticism, though. I'm all in an ASU.

754
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: I'm all in an ASU. I don't know I'm all

755
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 1: into the extent that they're going to win the Pac twelve,

756
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: but I'm all in on this team. Are you all

757
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: in on ten plus win ASU? Yeah? Yeah, I'm in

758
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: on ten wins for ASU. All in an ASU. By

759
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: the way, I did this in twenty five fifteen when

760
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: I predicted them to go to the playoff, and that

761
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: immediately backfired on me.

762
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: But twenty fifteen ASU, that would have been post BERKOVICI

763
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: was a Taylor Kelly who was the quarterback in twenty fifteen.

764
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: I think I blacked out.

765
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember, Okay, fifteen twenty sixteen, I remember, maybe

766
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: the only two knuckleheads in college football media who were

767
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: in on ASU as a playoff team were me and

768
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: Kirk kurb Street. I don't know if he copied off me.

769
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: Maybe, So Taylor Kelly gets hurt against Colorado.

770
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: It looks like in twenty fifteen.

771
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't remember what year it was, but whatever

772
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: year it was, it left the bad taste of my mouth.

773
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: And now I'm coming back to the well.

774
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: Here they went six and seven, though, Ty, don't write

775
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: yourself off ASU.

776
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: I think the depth is good. I like the quarterback,

777
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: I like the running back. What we haven't seen yet

778
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: is that consistent level of production from herm at ASU.

779
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: So I get the criticism, but I think this is

780
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: the for them, so I can see it. Obviously the

781
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: question was framed around my love. I understand why you

782
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: can't twenty fifteen was Senior Burkovich to be clear, Senior Burkovic. Yeah,

783
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: he took over in twenty fourteen when Taylor kell Of

784
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: got hurt. That's all two more questions here before we

785
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: get to our previews. Yeah, let's go back over to

786
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: the ACC and let's talk about a team that you previewed.

787
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Virginia Tech. Dan a lot of vogin

788
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: Tech faithful that listen to this show. One of the

789
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: questions that we posed through the course of our preview

790
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: was can you figure out which direction this Virginia Tech

791
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: team is headed? And nobody can answer that question kind

792
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: of seems like.

793
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 2: It's I think there's some vocal hockey fans who can answer.

794
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: There are some vocal vocal hockey fans. Yeah. Can you

795
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: see Virginia Tech taking a big step forward, silencing these critics,

796
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: the vocal Hokies, if you will, and coming into twenty

797
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: twenty two with Justin Flente still as their head football coach.

798
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to guess. I mean,

799
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like if they are inconsistent and or

800
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: poor through stretches that he'll be the coach next year.

801
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 2: But a big step forward. What does a big step

802
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: forward mean in the context of Virginia Tech to you?

803
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: What does government mean?

804
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: To you? A big step forward means they're playing in

805
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: the AEC Championship again.

806
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So can I see Braxton Burmeister leading Virginia Tech

807
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: to a matchup against Clemson.

808
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: In the AEC Championship game? Right? No?

809
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: I can't see it. Can you see it? Don't they?

810
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: They open with North Carolina. We'll I have a pretty

811
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: good sense of how competitive they are early, and they're

812
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 2: at West Virginia. I'm looking at their schedule right now.

813
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: It's really not terrible. The back half it's at Georgia Tech,

814
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: at Boston College, Duke at Miami at Virginia. Though other

815
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: than Duke, that's a I don't know. It's it seems

816
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: tricky enough. So no, I don't see it. I see

817
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: a probable loss even though it's at home. Well, I'll

818
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: say somewhat probable to North Carolina at West Virginia is

819
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: going to be tough. Notre Dame Pitt like I just

820
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. I see four or five losses on here.

821
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a fan of Braxenbergmeister.

822
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 3: I don't see it.

823
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sucks that Hendon Hooker transferred out. I think

824
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: we'll be the guy at Tennessee if they don't go

825
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: to Joe Milton. But right, Hendon Hooker was a difference maker,

826
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: and I think we saw when he came in and

827
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: took that job there was almost an instant lift. The

828
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: fact that he's gone, Man, I don't know. I feel

829
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: like it's coming off the rails. And it's hard for

830
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: me to say that because we had Flente on the show.

831
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, I think Joe Milton's going to

832
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: be the starter at Tennessee?

833
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: Is it Milton?

834
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: I think he might be. I mean that nothing is

835
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: official name that's where the Westpers are going.

836
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: They should go handed Hooker, but that's neither here nor there.

837
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm not at camp. I don't know, So I think

838
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't think that big step

839
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: forward is coming for Virginia Tech, and it bums me

840
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: out because they should be better than they are. They

841
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 1: just have not gotten to that level of consistency, right,

842
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: So I don't see it either.

843
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we talked about in the preview that

844
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: a guy with the quarterback development reputation that justin bu

845
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: Wente came in with and not being able to find

846
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: and consistently develop dudes after he I think it was

847
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: what Jared Gerard Evans. Yeah, that that first year that

848
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: did lead them to the a SEC Championship game and

849
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: was for sure above average, if not full on pretty good. Uh,

850
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: just one of the stranger sub stories in the ACC.

851
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: I can't believe they're starting Braxton Bermeiser. I can't believe it.

852
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: He stinks. Oh Ti, that's so not He's not a

853
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: good college quarterback. How are they starting Braxtenburgmeister? How are

854
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: we again at this place in twenty twenty one? No, less,

855
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: after all we've been through where we're talking ourselves into

856
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: Braxton Burmeister. I'm sure he's a nice kid. I hate

857
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: to say anybody stinks, but he's York.

858
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: I don't look, I've watched quarterbacks stink. Braxenburgmeister, Sir, does

859
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 2: not stink.

860
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: Really.

861
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: I mean he's stunk during some games at Or, but

862
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 2: I don't think he stinks like I think he is

863
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: a serviceable ACC quarterback. I just don't think that gets

864
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: you to a a conference championship game.

865
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: That for me is the question not about are they

866
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: taking a step forward. Why is he the starting quarterback?

867
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: You cannot do better than Braxton Burmeister Virginia Tech. Virginia

868
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: Tech had Mike Thick, Virginia Tech has had some really

869
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks along the way, not all of the NFL powers,

870
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: but good quarterbacks. Braxton Burgmeister is where we're at. Really,

871
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: justin through the ball like sixty times a game at

872
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: Memphis ROX and throwing the ball. He throws the ball

873
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: twenty five times, you're in trouble. Yeah, maybe that's too

874
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: hot of a take. I don't know, but.

875
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I've blocked out a lot of Virginia

876
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: Tech quarterbacks over the years. I'm trying to find. So

877
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: we got Logan Thomas. That wasn't amazing. There were moments,

878
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: but it wasn't amazing. No Michael Brewer transfer through a

879
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: lot of interceptions, but that was there. I believe Virginia

880
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: Tech beat Ohio State draw to Evans who I mentioned.

881
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: But you're going way back now, I mean Logan Thomas

882
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: converted tight end. Everybody knows this, all right.

883
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: So look, here's the deal. We didn't do the Big

884
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: ten yet because we're building up to the Big ten.

885
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: And we got a preview games. We're going to build

886
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: up as best we can to the week zero games.

887
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: Are you ready to make some picks, like two and

888
00:45:53,600 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: a half of them? Sure? Damn time the week Week zero.

889
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: It's upon us. Whoo zero zero, week zero. I don't

890
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: know why they call week zero. I don't know who

891
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: started calling it week zero. It's an amuge bush of

892
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: college football, a moose, a mouse, boosh, little nibble. Let's

893
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: start Saturday, one pm on the Fox Network. Nebraska minus seven,

894
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: minus six and a half depending where you look on

895
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: the road at Illinois. Need I remind you that Illinois

896
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: went on the road last year and beat Nebraska by

897
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: a forty one to twenty three score. Correct. Bit of

898
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: a black guy for the Cornhuskers in Lincoln. It's a

899
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: bit of a revenge spot perhaps now as we look

900
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: forward to this game. I would also add that this

901
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: game now features Brett Beilama or Alan Erotic Orlanti. I

902
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: just wanted to play the sound, which is why I

903
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: mentioned that. So Illinois moving on from Lovey Smith at

904
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: the end of last year, Nebraska, who knows where Nebraska's

905
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: going to be at the end of this season. Scott

906
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: Frost now getting a bit of an investigative look from

907
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: the NC double A for the way that he has

908
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: used analysts within that Nebraska football program. So we'll see.

909
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a distraction or not. But

910
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: Saturday one pm, this whole thing kicks off the end.

911
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 3: Who you got?

912
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: I think Nebraska wins going away, really, I really do. Yeah,

913
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: the distractions have obviously been numerous with Nebraska and the

914
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: questions about Scott Frost's future. Then the attention from the

915
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: NC DOUBLEA. I think Illinois in the year one, starting

916
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: Brandon Peters, I expect Nebraska to be full on decent

917
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 2: this year. Now, the schedule doesn't do him any favors,

918
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: but against Illinois Week one, with an entrench starter at quarterback,

919
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: they were rotating. They're bringing Luke McCaffrey last year, so

920
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: if Adrian Martinez, what I assume is going to be

921
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: marquee step next to him. The USC transfer and even

922
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: though I'm not in love with their receiving corps, I

923
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 2: really think they've got pretty good guys on all three

924
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: levels on defense, and the Brandon Peters against what I

925
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 2: believe to be a pretty good defense matchup I don't

926
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: think is great and so yeah, I think Nebraska wins

927
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 2: week zero going away. I don't know, something like thirty

928
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: one to fourteen, something like that.

929
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: I think the talent is definitely better at Nebraska. I

930
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: don't think there's any question about that.

931
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: By the way, if it is true about the coaches

932
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: in the analysts, then there is so much help developing

933
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: these prices, so they're gonna be so ready they will

934
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: be extra.

935
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: Ready for the Illinois ALIONI I think that Nebraska clearly

936
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: has more talent than Illinois. And I also don't expect

937
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: that the coaching thing is gonna take instantly. It never

938
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: does virtually anywhere. It never takes a farce instantly. So yeah,

939
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: you can tell me until you're blue in the face,

940
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: how many returning starters, how much returning production Illinois has.

941
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: Brandon Peters coming back a try. I saw someone refer

942
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: to him as a trusted hand. Really, I think this

943
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: game will be close. I like the game a lot.

944
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: When the opening point spread was Illinois plus nine and

945
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: a half at home, But what has since happened is

946
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: everybody else felt that way too, and a ton of

947
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: money came in on Illinois. Fifty eight percent of the

948
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: bets have been on Illinois plus the points. Seventy two

949
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: percent of the money has been on Illinois plus the points,

950
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: and as we talked about with our good friend Jeff

951
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: Schwartz just a week ago on the show, generally speaking,

952
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: it's not a bad idea to go against the public,

953
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: especially when there's a lot of scheme on my team.

954
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: So I think I'm with you. I kind of. I

955
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: waffled back and forth on this one. I don't like

956
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: betting road favorites. I would never touch this game with

957
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: a ten foot poll with actual money. But I am

958
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: also in that camp, despite the fact that there's a

959
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 1: lot of doom and gloom out there and Husker nation,

960
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: this is a game they should win. If they don't win,

961
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: we'll have a talk on Sunday, right, we'll talk about

962
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: this and what it means in the grander picture. And

963
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: perhaps there were distractions. Doesn't mean the end for Scott Frost.

964
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: It probably does. They lose this game, but I am

965
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: not ready to commit to that yet. So I think

966
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: Nebraska wins. I don't know if they win going away,

967
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: as he said, but comfortably comfortably I'll give them a

968
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: win by ten points here on the road or revenge

969
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: spot against Illinois.

970
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just Nebraska has more good players. I'm not

971
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: going to overthink this. That's where I stand on this.

972
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: And maybe because they beat Illinois like they do, and

973
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: much in the way that Wisconsin beat Illinois like they

974
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: did last year, where expectations all of a sudden became outsized,

975
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: at least until Grandmarts came down with COVID. You know,

976
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 2: Nebraska has white Oklahoma in a couple of weeks. Yeah,

977
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: and so maybe expectations will be a little outsized because

978
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: of the September eighteenth. So they have four of them

979
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: in Buffalo, so they could start three and h run

980
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 2: away from all three of those teams, like, well, Nebraska's

981
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: pretty good, and then Oklahoma blows the doors off of them,

982
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 2: and you know, all the panic starts anew. But yeah,

983
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: I think Nebraska has good players and they're going to

984
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: take Illinois seriously and they're going to beat them by

985
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: double digits.

986
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: Saturday, three point thirty on ESPN, We've got the Hawaii

987
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: Rainbow Warriors on the road against UCLA. At the time

988
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: that I jotted down the point spread, this was seventeen.

989
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: Now it has gone up to eighteen in favor of UCLA.

990
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: That is notable because the opening line was UCLA minus

991
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: nine and a half. So you know, these things can

992
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: change very quickly as it relates to the point spread.

993
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: Somebody sees a number, they throw a ton of money down,

994
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: they move it accordingly, very quickly. But it's up to

995
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: now eighteen points in favor of the Bruins. I don't

996
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: know if I am willing to lay that big of

997
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: a number. I know we're both pretty high on Ucla,

998
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: but in week one. I know it's been kind of

999
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: a normal offseason now, but I'm just not there with this,

1000
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to lay the points. What I

1001
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: do like, though, is going over the point total, which

1002
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: I think is sixty nine point five points sixty nine

1003
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: and a half. I'd be inclined to go over because

1004
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: I think we will see points on both sides of

1005
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: this one. I'm just not willing to commit to that

1006
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: point spread. UCLA is going to win. UCLA is the

1007
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: better team, and it's going to give them an opportunity

1008
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: to get ready for Week two, which would be a

1009
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: much more juicy matchup when they host LSU.

1010
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 3: But juicy, very juicy.

1011
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, for now, I like UCLA to win. I don't

1012
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: have a lean in terms of the point spread. I

1013
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: do like the over though.

1014
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like slow star Ucla eventually covering this game.

1015
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: I just think where you can beat UCLA is upfront

1016
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: on that defense. I think they have a couple guys

1017
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: that are decent upfront on that defense, but I don't

1018
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: think they're the depth. I don't think they have the

1019
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: higher end talent that I think the better teams in

1020
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: the Pac twelve are going to push UCLA around up front,

1021
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: but I don't think Hawaii is that team. So I

1022
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 2: think over the course of this game, and we remember

1023
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: how sloppy UCLA was in that first and twenty twenty

1024
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: Grant assault, but they work quite sloppy early in that

1025
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 2: game with turnovers against Colorado last year that they battled

1026
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: back and almost took it. But that's a little bit

1027
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: concerning to me that Chip Kelly has not really and

1028
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 2: I know there have been reasons in the context and

1029
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: you know, available players, but they have not been a

1030
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: good September team under Chip Kelly. I think finally they're

1031
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 2: at a really nice place in terms of that roster

1032
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: and the experience. I don't think they have guys on

1033
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: offense that are game changers. But I mean, I guess

1034
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: it depends on what you think about Zach Sharboney, but

1035
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: I just don't see it in terms of upper level.

1036
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: But against Hawaii, against the Hawaii defense, Yeah, I think

1037
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: UCLA is going to be good place. And I think

1038
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where like it's relatively close

1039
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: at halftime, and then things open up in the third quarter,

1040
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: maybe a long run, and ultimately, you know, the Bruins

1041
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 2: win this game thirty eight to twenty thirty eight seventeen.

1042
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: I guess if they're going to cover, But no, I

1043
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: think Ucla is is going to be fine.

1044
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: Ucla is going to be fine. I think there will

1045
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: be points here. I think we'll see points here. I

1046
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: see it's now up to seventy the over under in

1047
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: a lot of places, so it depends where you look.

1048
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: Forty five twenty something like that, sixty mc and one

1049
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: book it's got it sixty eight and a half, someone

1050
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: else that has it at seventy, so there's a little

1051
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: bit of wiggle room in there. I think either way,

1052
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: what Vegas is telling us is a lot of points,

1053
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll see what we can glean from

1054
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 1: this opening week matchup Week zero matchup for UCLA before

1055
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: we talk about that big one next week against LSU.

1056
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: Should be should be a good spot by the way

1057
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 2: for UCLA offensive players statistically to build up some numbers early.

1058
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: Totally, all right, so very quickly. The other three games

1059
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: that are on our FBS slate, that will just casually

1060
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: mention UTEP is on the road a nine point road

1061
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: favorite against New Mexico State. We've got Yukon on the

1062
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: road against Fresno. Fresno favored by IT twenty seven and

1063
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: a half. And then we've got Southern Utah on the

1064
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: road at the San Jose State Spartans they are favored

1065
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: by eighteen. I don't presume you have a lean on

1066
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: any of those games.

1067
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 2: Dan, Well, those games feature two teams who didn't even

1068
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 2: play last year, in New Mexico State and Yukon, so

1069
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 2: they're excited maybe to play, even though there's a lot

1070
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: of new faces for both of those teams. Yeah, I

1071
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 2: would just ride the favorites there. UTEP took a nice

1072
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 2: step forward last year, were competitive, almost beating North Texas.

1073
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: It was not that good, but yeah, I think UTEP

1074
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: is in a much better place, and I think Fresno

1075
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 2: should comfortably beat Yukon, and I guess I'll go. I'm

1076
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: going favorites. I guess down on the board, right, I'm

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Speaker 2: not taking any dogs this week. I don't have a

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Speaker 2: home dog of the week. I don't have any I

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Speaker 2: don't have any sandwich, I don't have anything. I'm taking

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Speaker 2: San Jose State to win comfortably against Southern Utah.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a lock this week. I have no lock. Really,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna save my lock for next week.

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Speaker 2: I guess I'll go to Nebraska Luck of the week.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the only one you can go with, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I know about Southern Utah is Oregon's

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Speaker 2: secondary coach, corner coach whatever he has. Rod Chance was

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Speaker 2: Southern Utah's defensive coordinator at some point. That's all I

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Speaker 2: know about this. Is that a good thing?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's well regarded.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, there you have it, a rather slim Week

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Speaker 1: zero slate again for those of you newcomers to the

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Speaker 1: solid verbal the way that this works. Now moving forward,

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Speaker 2: About Tuesday midday Eastern time. Midday Tuesday Eastern time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe closer to one o'clock today. And then moving forward,

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Speaker 2: we have a news themed show that we're going to

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Speaker 2: reconvene on Sunday morning, Dan where this show will be

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Speaker 1: Game that we've been talking about throughout the course of

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Speaker 1: on you know, three days a week as well, whether

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Speaker 1: it's from Travis talking about stats. Connor is going to

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Speaker 1: be ramping up his efforts to talk about all things

1131
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Speaker 1: when you should watch college football games. He's going to

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Speaker 1: break down the different windows that we've got here that

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Speaker 1: percolate throughout the course of the season, and Bradley will

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Speaker 1: of course provide his zoomed out, really fun take on

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Speaker 1: what's going on in the college football world. So as

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Speaker 1: we get closer to the season, we have been doing

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Speaker 1: so very much more as We've been devoting all of

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Speaker 1: our time and energy to this thing.

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Speaker 2: Are you are you actively watching live? Are you going

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Speaker 2: to catch after the fact? Do you have plans for Saturday?

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Speaker 2: What is your watch plan for Saturday? Is there a

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Speaker 2: window of opportunity?

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Speaker 1: Tie? Well, I think I think the whole week is

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Speaker 1: sort of a window of opportunity, tie, if you want

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Speaker 1: to say it, But now I will be I will

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Speaker 1: be in front of the TV for both of these games.

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Speaker 1: Look at you, both of these games.

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Speaker 2: No day job, all in all in on.

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Speaker 1: Nebraska, Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Baby, You're getting a big old like Italian sub HOGI

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Speaker 2: whatever for weeks zero?

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Speaker 1: Oh, good question. There is an Italian place close by.

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Speaker 1: Come on, there is an Italian market close by. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I'll see you the link to this yet, Mortal.

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Speaker 1: I will send you this link after we get off here,

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Speaker 1: and you can take a look at it and tell

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Speaker 1: me what I should get. But I'm thinking of maybe

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Speaker 1: popping down there and getting like an Italian like HOGI

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Speaker 1: of some sort.

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Speaker 3: Oh man.

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Speaker 2: And if the game gets out of hand in one

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Speaker 2: of the directions, you could just take a little nap.

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Speaker 1: What a dream, have a couch nap late summer couch

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Speaker 1: nap for that guy over there and my good friend

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein for myself. Tie hilden Brand, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for downloading, for listening, for supporting the show. The

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Speaker 1: season is upon us. Stay solid, peace,