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Speaker 7: We did you call him by his proper name? I didn't.
Speaker 8: I didn't. I didn't come you know what his new
Speaker 8: name is. I'm not going to say it since we
Speaker 8: forgot to pronounce it, I announce it. I'm not saying
Speaker 8: get him next time.
Speaker 4: All right, I guys do it.
Speaker 8: I don't want we don't want to jinx him like
Speaker 8: he's done half our football team.
Speaker 9: Nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4: You're not allowed to talk about the Cowboys anymore. So
Speaker 4: you can talk about Miller like but you can get
Speaker 4: them numbers now, number.
Speaker 5: I don't like my numbers. I need a curtain, I
Speaker 5: need them.
Speaker 4: Were doing today?
Speaker 8: Good?
Speaker 4: Good? Anybody going to the fair? Anybody been to the fair?
Speaker 8: I've been.
Speaker 4: You went already, yes, yes, sir?
Speaker 8: Do you walk around just a little bit? You know,
Speaker 8: I got a little the turkey and did you.
Speaker 3: Get did you get a paid appearance out there?
Speaker 4: Is that why you were?
Speaker 8: No? No, I went to the Gramble Prayer review game. Okay,
Speaker 8: you know the corn toss guy, and you were the
Speaker 8: coin toss.
Speaker 6: You're the coin toss nothing boy.
Speaker 5: Because you tell everybody, I don't tell none of us when.
Speaker 8: Over two hundred miles the first twenty don't get no
Speaker 8: recognition for me?
Speaker 9: Oh nice, it's a fair day in the lunch froment
Speaker 9: the corn dogs corn.
Speaker 4: And you don't know and you just I knew it
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Speaker 8: I didn't know what all they had though, put that
Speaker 8: corner over the good and just I'm surprised you don't
Speaker 8: eat corn dogs.
Speaker 5: Little Glizzie in the sweater for me, my boyfriend.
Speaker 4: I've never heard.
Speaker 3: That corn dog man. The best part of the corn
Speaker 3: dog is the crunchy part on the stick.
Speaker 4: That little you're talking about the end of there too, best.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Chris, there's gonna be a lot of people with
Speaker 8: some ship they sugar Finny go up. There's a lot
Speaker 8: of healthy people in my size are big old. I'm like.
Speaker 4: Swimming to be fled by Kurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a guy popped up, pretty important.
Speaker 4: Guy popped up on the injury report yesterday.
Speaker 9: Kendricks in the middle, Yes, too, shoulder and calf.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how how big of a deal is that?
Speaker 3: Because he's kind of holding this thing together by himself
Speaker 3: right now, and.
Speaker 6: It's so it's like, it is so massive if he
Speaker 6: plays or does not play, like I don't even think
Speaker 6: you really understand, because if he doesn't play, you.
Speaker 5: Now have to go, oh, hey, y'all, you know what's up?
Speaker 8: What's up?
Speaker 4: Watching live?
Speaker 8: You're like a little kid like that. He's trying to
Speaker 8: be telling Wave.
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Speaker 5: one we lost for the segment.
Speaker 4: I got't bring him in name.
Speaker 6: The Eric Kendricks potential of not playing is massive.
Speaker 8: One.
Speaker 6: He's your green dot. What does that mean? He is
Speaker 6: the one that calls your defense. He gets everyone lined up,
Speaker 6: He has the mic in his help, he has the
Speaker 6: mic in his helmet. He is speaker his helmet. He
Speaker 6: calls the the adjustments on his on the defensive front.
Speaker 6: Like and when you take him out of the equation,
Speaker 6: you're now talking about your line.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 6: It's another player at that down right, another player that
Speaker 6: they're down. And then secondly, your starting linebackers will potentially
Speaker 6: be absolutely your starting linebackers will potentially be Dumont Clark,
Speaker 6: Maris Luilfowl and Damarian Overshown, very little experienced at that
Speaker 6: line and against this football team, Yeah, the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 6: The biggest thing that they do two really good things
Speaker 6: on offensive line wild I don't know, we'll get into
Speaker 6: that earlier. But not having Eric Kendricks in this lineup
Speaker 6: would be massive, would be a massive, massive, massive loss
Speaker 6: for this Cowboys defense.
Speaker 3: Then a couple of guys that are kind of surprisingly
Speaker 3: that are gonna sounds like they're gonna be ready to
Speaker 3: go this week, or Dron Bland and Carson full participants
Speaker 3: with the bye week being a week away, would you
Speaker 3: sit those guys since you been not terrible with them
Speaker 3: off the field, would you sit.
Speaker 4: Them and just make sure they're good? Or is it
Speaker 4: one of those things where I don't.
Speaker 9: Know if Bland is going to be back because he's
Speaker 9: coming off the ir is on like a second week.
Speaker 5: He could know.
Speaker 6: They opened up his twenty one day window yesterday, so
Speaker 6: any part in that time he could be brought back.
Speaker 6: I think Mike McCarthy said today, Uh, he need to
Speaker 6: see he needs to see a lot from him.
Speaker 4: OK, today I thought I heard that different. I thought
Speaker 4: he was I thought he was coming back this week.
Speaker 5: So no, no, he could.
Speaker 8: He's full.
Speaker 4: He could.
Speaker 6: He he went full yesterday, but that was a limited practice.
Speaker 6: That wasn't That wasn't like a full on.
Speaker 3: You know, if he's that close, would you just let
Speaker 3: him let him sit? Or is that a deal where
Speaker 3: if he says he's good and the trainer say he's good,
Speaker 3: he's good.
Speaker 9: I think it's kind of tough balance because you're playing
Speaker 9: one of the best teams in the league and.
Speaker 5: The best guys out there's gonna get beat up.
Speaker 9: That's the other side of the other side of it. Man,
Speaker 9: if he ain't one hundred percent you and.
Speaker 5: If he's one hundred and why I do not like
Speaker 5: pitch counts.
Speaker 6: Not a fan of pitch counts, especially as like certain positions,
Speaker 6: because I just feel that I feel that there is
Speaker 6: a feel to the game, and if you're pulling me
Speaker 6: on and off the field, there's a lot of feeling
Speaker 6: going on out there, very touchy, very very get you
Speaker 6: called the hr type situation.
Speaker 5: When you're pulling me on and off the field, I
Speaker 5: just can never find a rhythm. I can't find a rhythm,
Speaker 5: yeh And you know.
Speaker 6: And it's not like his mentality is nickel cornerback like
Speaker 6: Jordan Lewis, who understands the mindset of being in the field,
Speaker 6: off the field, on the field, off the field. He's
Speaker 6: used to going out there and being the guy. So
Speaker 6: I'm indifferent. I'm in different if he's on a pitch count.
Speaker 6: But if he can go, let him go, let him actlutely,
Speaker 6: just just go, just just absolutely go. Hey, ladyes, y'all
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Speaker 10: I'm cute?
Speaker 5: Think I'm cute, Think I'm handsome.
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Speaker 5: You think I'm handsome?
Speaker 4: Why does it always you know I look good?
Speaker 3: You say that I always make the show about me,
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Speaker 4: Like, I'm always gonna make it about well, at least
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Speaker 5: I'm honest with it. You don't try to be honest.
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Speaker 8: Now you you know this dude? Did he got hanging
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Speaker 11: Man?
Speaker 4: Oh he bailed on you the next day.
Speaker 5: I can't hide that back.
Speaker 8: You do it during the sene the least shann to
Speaker 8: do it after the season priority.
Speaker 4: I do it in the playoffs because I know I'm good.
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Speaker 4: Do not call Nate Newton.
Speaker 3: Do not call Nate why he's on the air, because
Speaker 3: he will answer, and if it wasn't for us, he
Speaker 3: wouldn't tell you.
Speaker 4: They don't tell them what you what they would say.
Speaker 6: Y'all got Nate has some very interesting phone calls that
Speaker 6: might pop off during this show, like a lot.
Speaker 5: Of time, he said in the voicemail.
Speaker 6: If you happen to look over there again to see
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Speaker 5: Know it'd be some names. It'd be names and names.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 8: We need to call coach Swissler one day.
Speaker 4: Oh man.
Speaker 8: May Now y'all know we got uh Marky's bell coming
Speaker 8: to next week. He's gonna be talking about some puppet shop.
Speaker 8: I told him, you got to talk more than.
Speaker 5: We won't be on that show.
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Speaker 4: So we got to bring him.
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Speaker 5: Wow, Monday, we're together on Monday.
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm mixing calls.
Speaker 4: One day.
Speaker 3: You need to get Coach Switzer in here for the
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Speaker 4: That would be I think he comes in town until
Speaker 4: this weekend. That would be great. You should, you should.
Speaker 4: You should have a calling guest once every month.
Speaker 8: Man, it'd be hard to get him to do to
Speaker 8: do that. When they people call me, they want a clown.
Speaker 8: They don't want to that's what we want to do.
Speaker 8: They don't want to do no work, be answering, no questions.
Speaker 5: I don't want to do a football talk.
Speaker 8: We want to.
Speaker 5: We want to hit the dude story.
Speaker 3: They can listen to another show if they want to,
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Speaker 8: It's good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, FaceTime y did y'all talk about talking about.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we did.
Speaker 4: While you was talking about we were just about to Nate.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up and decided to participate
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Speaker 5: And Kendricks popped up on the injury.
Speaker 3: You know what, I'd love to hear your thoughts, but
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Speaker 4: Question for you guys everyone.
Speaker 3: Kurt, let me start with you since you haven't talked
Speaker 3: a whole lot today, but I want you to all right,
Speaker 3: you just played two of the worst offenses in the league.
Speaker 4: Right, you feel pretty? You feel decent about it yourself.
Speaker 4: I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: I think you feel better than you did the first
Speaker 3: three games. Right, feel decent? You feel okay? Is this
Speaker 3: going to in your opinion, be a reality check and
Speaker 3: bring this thing crashing back down.
Speaker 4: To where it was after the second week of the season.
Speaker 9: A reality check for sure.
Speaker 3: Do you think they've got a little momentum now and
Speaker 3: they're gonna build on that, and they got a little
Speaker 3: something going and they've figured maybe they're figuring something out
Speaker 3: with the running game, and maybe they're figuring out a
Speaker 3: little bit with the defensive an offensive line starting to jail.
Speaker 4: Or do you just think it's like you played these
Speaker 4: two teams and now it's.
Speaker 9: They took care of business against two teams they needed
Speaker 9: to handle up on them. They did, but there and
Speaker 9: they're eating some momentum. They are headed in the right direction,
Speaker 9: but now they're facing a team that's the real deal.
Speaker 9: So they're gonna it's gonna be a real test for him.
Speaker 8: What about you, Nate, You know, I just you know,
Speaker 8: I believe this here is coming. He is coming now
Speaker 8: you either you know you either treated you either treated
Speaker 8: like a hurricane your bat.
Speaker 5: What is Detroit doing day?
Speaker 8: They coming that, Oh we're gonna spring them this weekend. Baby,
Speaker 8: we go spraying like like like your boy been saying
Speaker 8: boys like everything's been so somebody you ever see when
Speaker 8: you're going to the seat, you going got all these heels,
Speaker 8: but going downhill they always got these safety things. You
Speaker 8: can run off of them because one hundred of miles. Wow,
Speaker 8: I hope we got a lot of those offs.
Speaker 4: What about you, Date, I mean, Jesse, what was the question?
Speaker 4: The question is you've played two.
Speaker 3: Pretty bad teams offensively, and now you got Detroit that's
Speaker 3: pretty solid offensively, pretty solid defensively. Is this going to
Speaker 3: be a reality check for everybody that's starting to feel
Speaker 3: good about this team? Or do you think they have
Speaker 3: a little bit of momentum and they have something to
Speaker 3: build on and could pull.
Speaker 8: It off this And remember, see this is what everybody forgot. Y'all.
Speaker 8: We still beat Cleveland. I mean, it don't mean nothing,
Speaker 8: but we are three and two. So I'm cracking jokes,
Speaker 8: but yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5: Here's what presents a very difficult thing for the cowboy.
Speaker 4: Cowboys are getting three at home, by the way.
Speaker 5: And that's right.
Speaker 6: Usually cowboys are getting three the underdog, Oh the uther door, you're.
Speaker 4: Right right home.
Speaker 3: So it means they're really supposed to lose by six
Speaker 3: because you get three at home, right.
Speaker 6: So here's the thing, you got two very bland offenses
Speaker 6: and the Giants. The Giants are pretty much we're gonna
Speaker 6: line up. This is what you're pretty much gonna get
Speaker 6: right coming at you. The same thing with Pittsburgh, We're
Speaker 6: gonna pretty much line up. It's not gonna be too
Speaker 6: much of the of the window dressing. So the eyes
Speaker 6: and the brains of the Cowboys defense gotta rest the
Speaker 6: last couple of weeks, which.
Speaker 5: Means they can just go straight.
Speaker 6: Up and play straight up and down football, which is
Speaker 6: very archaic in the way that the brand of football
Speaker 6: is going in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: That ends on Sunday.
Speaker 6: You're getting ready to get back to what you had
Speaker 6: to deal with with New Orleans, with Baltimore, where the
Speaker 6: eye candy and the window dressing and the disceptions and
Speaker 6: the pre sat motion, the uh, the post snap movement,
Speaker 6: the many different formations, the many different personnels.
Speaker 5: You're getting ready to get to that.
Speaker 6: Oh, by the way, they also have one of the
Speaker 6: best offensive lines in football.
Speaker 5: And when you when you give.
Speaker 6: Jarrett Goff an opportunity to stay in the pocket and
Speaker 6: complete passes, he's one of the best in the league.
Speaker 6: Where he turns from a carriage to a pumpkin is
Speaker 6: when you pressure him. You don't have your two best
Speaker 6: press players press players playing in this game.
Speaker 5: So it is a while.
Speaker 6: The Cowboys have gained some confidence and some feel good
Speaker 6: about them in the last two weeks. When you turn
Speaker 6: on your when you turn on this film and you
Speaker 6: watch the Detroit Lions, you kind of you kind of
Speaker 6: you know, you flitch a little bit because you start
Speaker 6: you start thinking about what happened to you against New Orleans.
Speaker 6: You start flitching a little bit. What happened to you
Speaker 6: against Baltimore. You're like, oh lord, we we were back
Speaker 6: to that again. And it's it's it might be another
Speaker 6: whooping coming their way on Sunday.
Speaker 8: What are you doing? Okay?
Speaker 4: I thought you about to say something in.
Speaker 8: No announcement you might cover up, you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 8: I'm laughing because normally, yeah, no, normally about now it's
Speaker 8: the fifth game, you know, sixth games, you you start
Speaker 8: to see who your team is. But as of right now,
Speaker 8: I can ask either one of y'all, hey, what is
Speaker 8: the Cowboys be coming to you? I don't think we
Speaker 8: have an answer yet. So but we've had a very
Speaker 8: two very good offensive lines and a quarterback and running backs,
Speaker 8: and because Taysom Hill was their extra gadget guy for
Speaker 8: New Orleans, whereas Lamar and we had Fella Henry. So
Speaker 8: whenever it's been an array of talented guys with an
Speaker 8: off with a offensive line, it has been ugly. That's
Speaker 8: why I'm laughing. Because they have three first round picks
Speaker 8: on their offensive line. And when their coach see everybody
Speaker 8: has somebody they lean on Kansas City with their quarterback,
Speaker 8: you know, Buffalo with their quarterback, the running back tappend
Speaker 8: them with. With these guys, everybody think they lean on them. No,
Speaker 8: that coach look right at his offensive line. Whatever it take.
Speaker 8: My offensive line can do it. Whether it's past blocking,
Speaker 8: I run blocking. They do it with equal flavor, and
Speaker 8: they do it with a physicality that is rare in
Speaker 8: his NFL.
Speaker 3: You brought up gadget guy, and I know this was
Speaker 3: the fans wanted this. Have you seen enough out of
Speaker 3: lip Key to maybe be a gadget guy or a
Speaker 3: guy that does not just here's the ball, run it
Speaker 3: right up the middle to try to get a first
Speaker 3: down because he can catch, you know he can catch.
Speaker 3: He seems to give him a little spark. Could you
Speaker 3: use him like a Taysom Hill type guy, where you
Speaker 3: could put him out wide, put him in the backfield,
Speaker 3: run some some misdirection stuff, and get him in the
Speaker 3: mix a little bit more.
Speaker 6: If you had your house in order, okay, And that's
Speaker 6: the biggest problem.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 6: New Orleans at that time was able to use Taysom
Speaker 6: Hills in those manners because their identity was the identity
Speaker 6: was established, their house was in order. Right Like when
Speaker 6: when it's when mom dad get the paycheck and there's
Speaker 6: a little bit extra left over, you get to go
Speaker 6: to McDonald's, right, you get you get the happy meal.
Speaker 6: But if money tight, we got McDonald's out home, figured
Speaker 6: all the other stuff out. If all of them they
Speaker 6: figure out, we got McDonald's out his confusion. And so
Speaker 6: for the cowboys and a lot it's not just you,
Speaker 6: but a lot of people ask for get this guy involved,
Speaker 6: get that guy involved, get this gun. He's like, wait,
Speaker 6: all of that involvement comes when my foundation is set,
Speaker 6: When we got our house taken care of. Now I
Speaker 6: can start doing other things. But I can't start saying, oh,
Speaker 6: build so and so into the mixing and use Kavante
Speaker 6: and use this guy.
Speaker 5: You that guy you're like, hey, I.
Speaker 4: Can't even get the ball in the second I can't
Speaker 4: get see.
Speaker 6: The ball in the second half. Hey, I can't protect
Speaker 6: my quarterback. Y'all know I got too bad tackles. Right
Speaker 6: when your house is in order, it'll afford you the
Speaker 6: opportunity to go out there and say, all right, cool,
Speaker 6: because that part is solidified.
Speaker 5: Now I can spend a.
Speaker 6: Little bit of my extra free time in diagnosing and
Speaker 6: drawing up and writing up plays to get.
Speaker 5: The other guys involved.
Speaker 6: But their house is just not in order enough for
Speaker 6: them to be like, sure, litkey, let's get you seven
Speaker 6: carries in this game, because they're like, wait, get him
Speaker 6: seven carries. Hell, you haven't figured out what we're gonna
Speaker 6: do with the first running back you put out there.
Speaker 6: So it's all about having your house and your affairs
Speaker 6: in order, and I don't think the Cowboys have them
Speaker 6: in order right now.
Speaker 8: Offensively, to add on to that, the teams with those
Speaker 8: type full back h slash tight end tight.
Speaker 4: Players, they always have.
Speaker 8: Two or three games in maybe one playoff game, two
Speaker 8: or three games during the year where they are a
Speaker 8: surprised like whoa, he caught four passes for fifteen for
Speaker 8: thirty five yards and a touchdown. Boy, he ran in
Speaker 8: there four or five times for a touchdown. It is
Speaker 8: a change up. It is almost like a surprise, Oh
Speaker 8: we got you because you won't cover him.
Speaker 3: Something outside of the you start making him a part
Speaker 3: of your deal.
Speaker 8: Now you're gonna have to start building a what I'm
Speaker 8: trying to say, you're gonna have it situation. In this situation,
Speaker 8: like when we see my man go out wide number nine,
Speaker 8: Oh hey, come to sweep this way. It's a sweet coming. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 8: So you you want just always like just say it's
Speaker 8: gotta be you gotta be established one way now all
Speaker 8: of a sudden, the big fellas just keep and now.
Speaker 8: And that's how that's how we always looked at Darren
Speaker 8: Johnson when we gave him. It's always two or three
Speaker 8: times a year, everybody.
Speaker 4: Oh boy moves, we need to use moose, come.
Speaker 8: On, dog tap you breaks. You know what we're gonna
Speaker 8: use and when we need to use. But we got
Speaker 8: in it. We got this guy. We got that guy.
Speaker 8: So hey, I'm with.
Speaker 5: Hold on, doll do that break hold on. That's what
Speaker 5: he told that.
Speaker 8: Hold on exact use check.
Speaker 5: My foundation is good. You want to run my house.
Speaker 8: Wasn't on us. That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: So y'all both agree that they're they're not under utilizing them.
Speaker 3: They're doing about what they need to do. I think
Speaker 3: so until they get their stuff in the word and
Speaker 3: that makes sense. That both of those are really good points.
Speaker 4: And you're right.
Speaker 3: If you look at the you look back at the year,
Speaker 3: you'll see two or three games where they just take
Speaker 3: the hill, just dominates a game, right, same thing with
Speaker 3: you know, for guys.
Speaker 8: Even though it takes him is a little bit exception
Speaker 8: to the rule. He's a little bit because without him,
Speaker 8: he's a unique dude, I'm telling you, And they are
Speaker 8: a different team without him because, like Jesse said a
Speaker 8: couple of weeks ago, he played so many positions. He's
Speaker 8: just tight end. He's your short yard, his running back,
Speaker 8: he can block and he will throw the ball. So
Speaker 8: now you don't line backer, safety, nichole, do we play
Speaker 8: this dude?
Speaker 3: You know, what are your thoughts on Jared Golf as
Speaker 3: a quarterback.
Speaker 8: I have always liked the guy because I knew who
Speaker 8: he was and who he still is. He is when
Speaker 8: you look into Webster's dictionary, look it up, Kurt.
Speaker 5: No No, No, don't look it up, Kurt, don't look
Speaker 5: it up.
Speaker 4: This is our status.
Speaker 5: This is a don't look when you're when you're not
Speaker 5: that side. Talk about your numbers and they trying to
Speaker 5: put gets you the numbers.
Speaker 4: Don't look a thought.
Speaker 3: We were a team show and with the team.
Speaker 8: But anyway, Jesse, can you ask him Jesse looking at
Speaker 8: your looking up, you would see play action pass. You'll
Speaker 8: see a picture of Jerry. You know what I'm serious?
Speaker 8: Is he not the ultimate play action pass quarterback? Because
Speaker 8: when he gets the time, he will hurt you.
Speaker 9: That running game.
Speaker 6: And that's why because the running again, the offensive line,
Speaker 6: and that running game is so potent. And it doesn't
Speaker 6: matter whether it's Gibbs or or or whether it's Montgomery.
Speaker 6: The running game is so potent. You have to believe it.
Speaker 6: So when he goes and he does that fake, you
Speaker 6: gotta bite to it. And when he comes out of
Speaker 6: the play action fake, he has room, he has time,
Speaker 6: he has receivers that can go on every level. He
Speaker 6: has Jamison, who's the who the speed guy can take
Speaker 6: the top off, Yes, Amara, Saint Brown who can you
Speaker 6: know fourteen can work intermediately?
Speaker 5: He's he's your guy.
Speaker 6: And you got La Porter, so you have options on
Speaker 6: every level for him to work with. He is it
Speaker 6: when you talk about being in the right situation on
Speaker 6: the right team and how you are able to thrive.
Speaker 6: Look at two quarterbacks. Go look at Sam Darnold and
Speaker 6: go look at Jared Golf. Both these guys were high
Speaker 6: draft picks, didn't start off as great because maybe the
Speaker 6: situation that they were in things were as solidified and
Speaker 6: they needed to be.
Speaker 5: The Rams make the trade.
Speaker 6: They get Matthew Stafford, Jared Goff's goes to Detroit and
Speaker 6: now he's around a solid.
Speaker 5: Situation Ben Johnson's office.
Speaker 6: According to it, go tar Heels, my former teammate, and
Speaker 6: he just understands, now, I'm really good at these things,
Speaker 6: and they surround the game plan for me around that.
Speaker 6: And that's what makes him really good man. And that
Speaker 6: playoffs just helps him out so much because it uncovers
Speaker 6: those things for him. He has answers. And that's one
Speaker 6: of the things I get on, you know, Michael from
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh about is give that answers. Give him answers right now.
Speaker 6: The way that Jared Goff cheats, she I do I
Speaker 6: want to cheat she so that when he comes out
Speaker 6: of that, he knows ball goes right here right now.
Speaker 5: I mean he's on pace.
Speaker 6: I think I think his twenty five consecutive passes completed
Speaker 6: that he's had coming from the last you know, come
Speaker 6: out of the last game.
Speaker 9: So he's third in play action attempts passing attempts.
Speaker 4: Who's first and second?
Speaker 9: First is Stafford, Second is San Darnold.
Speaker 5: Two good teams with running backs HM HM.
Speaker 3: By the way, Jared Goff number one overall draft pick
Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen, when Zeke went Forth, Jared Golf, Carson Wentz,
Speaker 3: Joey Bosa, Zeke, Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 9: Their stats are pretty similar to Dak and yeah, Golf,
Speaker 9: they're pretty close.
Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of surprising because Golf didn't get
Speaker 3: the pub. Is that because he's in Detroit.
Speaker 9: Well, you like just said he got off to kind
Speaker 9: of a bad story. You know, he he had a
Speaker 9: tough couple of first years. That shine that first year,
Speaker 9: so he's found this spot down.
Speaker 3: They have sneakily built a really good offense. They have,
Speaker 3: like if you think about the talent they have the receivers,
Speaker 3: they got two really good running backs.
Speaker 4: They got a hell of a tight end. They got
Speaker 4: a good quarterback. You know, they've got they've they drafted
Speaker 4: really well and nobody, nobody's really a superstar on that team.
Speaker 4: They're all just hell of player Colin And.
Speaker 5: It's just honestly like when you look at Detroit to the.
Speaker 6: What's the car people name that, they gave them time.
Speaker 6: They gave them time to come in and to change
Speaker 6: the culture. That's what you just don't You don't have
Speaker 6: that much in the NFL right now. I mean you'll
Speaker 6: get fired after two years if things don't go right.
Speaker 8: And they didn't.
Speaker 5: It didn't start out that way for Detroit.
Speaker 6: They took their lumps when when when when we first
Speaker 6: got there, But the the the family was patient. They
Speaker 6: allowed him to build and and boy, I mean he's
Speaker 6: built through the draft.
Speaker 5: He's built a hell of a team.
Speaker 6: Ben Johnson, Aaron Glynn their offensive defensive coordinators. They got
Speaker 6: a good system going uh for them in Detroit right now.
Speaker 9: Last year they had five Pro bowlers on that offense
Speaker 9: to all Pros.
Speaker 4: They have a pretty good game PROS offense alignment.
Speaker 9: Uh sewell and then Sat Brown.
Speaker 5: Okay receiver in the white tackle left tuckle.
Speaker 3: They have one of the one of the better game
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Speaker 4: Can you do that during the break?
Speaker 8: I can try. Okay, If not, we'll do it tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: Surprising is that that the Bengals are that bad with
Speaker 3: that quarterback?
Speaker 6: What did you start calling that quarterback? Like calling that
Speaker 6: quarterback out like you would do if that was.
Speaker 5: Dak Yeah, come on now, Joe Burrow, that's true. Call
Speaker 5: a spade a spade.
Speaker 4: Do you think the the Do you think the Detroit.
Speaker 3: Offense has the best collection of skill position players right now?
Speaker 3: With the tight end you got two really good running backs,
Speaker 3: and you got.
Speaker 9: Williams and two really good receivers. Pretty good group.
Speaker 4: Excluding excluding the quarterback. Just you know, skill position players
Speaker 4: that that group of talent.
Speaker 5: Houston might rival that a little bit. Houstn't give you
Speaker 5: a run fore of money. I think Houston will give
Speaker 5: you a run fee of money.
Speaker 4: But what's his names out for the season now?
Speaker 5: Is he he's a Nicol's on?
Speaker 3: I R.
Speaker 13: No.
Speaker 5: They got a good group, really good group.
Speaker 9: Who scares you the most?
Speaker 5: I mean, of course the Niners when they're fully healthy.
Speaker 8: That's a.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a That's.
Speaker 3: The thing that's different about their team is everybody, everybody
Speaker 3: on San fran can do something totally different.
Speaker 4: Like you got Debo, that's just a dog.
Speaker 6: But they had they were down, they were down, I
Speaker 6: think like deebo Iyuk and McCaffrey, and then Jennings went
Speaker 6: off for like one hundred and seventy five yards and
Speaker 6: three touchdowns like something stupid like that.
Speaker 4: Plug and play. Yeah, but they so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question, which which one of those
Speaker 3: tools scares you the most.
Speaker 4: On their offense When you look at tape Gibbs, really
Speaker 4: that's not.
Speaker 9: Either home run hit a fast one or yeah he's
Speaker 9: a home run hitter.
Speaker 4: That doesn't mixed. I don't like that you picked the
Speaker 4: running back. Oh this is this is this is getting
Speaker 4: ready to be against our team. They got two good ones.
Speaker 6: This is getting ready. I would be shocked. I would
Speaker 6: be utterly shocked.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see what you're The Cowboys win if
Speaker 3: because you've been spot on the last two weeks, I
Speaker 3: have tomorrow. You need to put a lot of thought
Speaker 3: in that keep that work going. The stat the stat
Speaker 3: the Cowboys win. If this stat comes true, I would be.
Speaker 6: I will be utterly shocked if Detroit doesn't rush for
Speaker 6: two hundred yards.
Speaker 4: M h really, Oh that's a bold statement made rubbing
Speaker 4: his head.
Speaker 5: When when.
Speaker 6: I was talking to I was talking to Brian brought
Speaker 6: us a day or so ago, and you know, we're
Speaker 6: kind of like talking back and forth, and and you know,
Speaker 6: he had mentioned he was like, you know, this team's
Speaker 6: really good at getting to the second level. And I
Speaker 6: went back and I watched it again, and I said, oh,
Speaker 6: my goodness, they get to that second level. And that
Speaker 6: has been the struggle for the Cowboys defensively. They they
Speaker 6: that offense recreates a line of scrimmage, and they get
Speaker 6: such a surge that they get to that second Those
Speaker 6: guys get off those blocks and get to those linebackers
Speaker 6: so fast.
Speaker 5: Like they are.
Speaker 6: It's it's like, you know, it's you know, it's coached,
Speaker 6: but there feels like it's an emphasis for them to
Speaker 6: get off those initial blocks and you know, whatever those
Speaker 6: combo those dual blocks get off, make them get off
Speaker 6: of them. If he don't get if he can't handle it,
Speaker 6: we'll deal with that. You gotta get to the next level.
Speaker 6: And they get to the next level, that second level
Speaker 6: so well, and I just think about our team and
Speaker 6: how we struggle with that. And those backs. They are physical,
Speaker 6: they are fast, they got good vision, and when they
Speaker 6: see a crease, they don't play around with it. When
Speaker 6: they see the crease, they hit it, and it is
Speaker 6: hit at one hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 5: And I could just see.
Speaker 6: Them lasting through one of those creases, hit their head
Speaker 6: the goal post. I would be honestly, I would be shocked.
Speaker 6: I would be shocked if they didn't rush for two
Speaker 6: hundred yards.
Speaker 4: This was a writing This was a writing question by Kurt.
Speaker 3: What would be a good day for the Cowboys run
Speaker 3: defense if they hold him under Kurt's at one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty, you said you'd be shocked if they don't
Speaker 3: hit What do you what would be a good day
Speaker 3: for our defense to give a one hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 6: Is that the number one hundred and fifty over that
Speaker 6: you're in touchdowns, that's a good day.
Speaker 5: That's a good day.
Speaker 4: Okay, carry on, Kurve.
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just like Nate.
Speaker 6: I don't you know, listen, I got a Pro Bowl
Speaker 6: offensive lineman here, Like, what do you see when you
Speaker 6: watch this online, every short.
Speaker 8: Every show I've done, people say, well, they'll start out
Speaker 8: talking about the why I receivers. I say, everything's predicated
Speaker 8: on the offense from line, Yes, start I talking about
Speaker 8: the running back. Everything's predicated on the office and lie, well,
Speaker 8: you know, everything is predication on offensive line. They offensive
Speaker 8: line is dominant. They are dominant, and they are dominant,
Speaker 8: and the coach does not, Like you can tell if
Speaker 8: one of them backs come up there doing all this
Speaker 8: right there, he probably won't play no more because they
Speaker 8: all coming downhill. And what Jesse said is true. When
Speaker 8: you got backs that's coming downhill with speed, they're expecting
Speaker 8: for a hole to be there. So they're telling that
Speaker 8: initial guy who's sitting the block, if I'm coming to
Speaker 8: help you, I got to put all I got into
Speaker 8: that for a split second, and I'm going up to
Speaker 8: the next level. So you got to get your head
Speaker 8: in the proper position, whether you got to reach up
Speaker 8: under their grounds from crawling jerk them, or whether you
Speaker 8: run them on straight across. Because that guy coming straight downhill.
Speaker 8: And when they go outside, they go outside with a vengeance.
Speaker 8: They ain't trying to mope around and see they going
Speaker 8: outside with a vengeance. So I'm with you. They are
Speaker 8: to me, they ask me this other show, what is
Speaker 8: your key to the game. We got to stop their offensive.
Speaker 6: Mind if you you want me to do a full
Speaker 6: one eighty and be impressed with this defense.
Speaker 8: Yes, sir, stop this run game.
Speaker 6: You stopped this, You stopped this offensive line and this
Speaker 6: run game.
Speaker 5: I'm on board.
Speaker 4: What what would what would impress you? One is what
Speaker 4: they need to do. What would impress you? What would
Speaker 4: make you think, say, okay, around one hundred and twenty, Yeah,
Speaker 4: they keep them around one hundred hundred, then we'll come
Speaker 4: in here on Monday and be like, okay, if.
Speaker 6: They if they keep this, if they keep this rushing
Speaker 6: attack from Detroit under one hundred and twenty rushing yards.
Speaker 4: Your boys, lunch one.
Speaker 8: You're coming anyway.
Speaker 5: You can pick your places. You can pick your place.
Speaker 6: And this is not this is not like me trying
Speaker 6: to pooh pooh on the Cowboys.
Speaker 8: Good.
Speaker 6: It's I'm looking at where we are deficient and you're
Speaker 6: down two of Yeah, you can get Bland back all
Speaker 6: you want.
Speaker 5: Fine, that's cool.
Speaker 6: He's not gonna affect the game like it's not you
Speaker 6: you have to now prove to me, Masie, you got
Speaker 6: to prove to me now, lynn Vell, that y'all really.
Speaker 8: Want to play footballs.
Speaker 6: Like y'all really want to play football, because you're about
Speaker 6: you about to face and I'm I'm not in their
Speaker 6: locker room.
Speaker 5: I've been in a lot of locker rooms.
Speaker 6: If you think that that that Dan Campbell is not
Speaker 6: telling them jokers, we are going to.
Speaker 14: Bleep bleep their kneecasts like he is, like we are
Speaker 14: going like he's gonna try to leave no doubt, like
Speaker 14: he's not gonna allow I know what happened last year.
Speaker 6: And and well we can talk offensively for the Cowboys,
Speaker 6: they're gonna need a They're gonna need another one of those.
Speaker 5: Offensive need to stay in this game.
Speaker 6: They are They're gonna need another one of those ceedee
Speaker 6: lamb two hundred and twenty seven yards, a couple of touchdowns,
Speaker 6: Dak willing to deal, You're gonna need You're gonna need
Speaker 6: every bit of that and probably some more to stay
Speaker 6: in this football game. I just have a gut feeling
Speaker 6: that they are coming in here. It is going to
Speaker 6: be physical from go. It is going to be they
Speaker 6: They got New Orleans and they got Baltimore. They're not
Speaker 6: worried about that. They're like, we don't we don't play
Speaker 6: we don't play the Giants. We don't play like Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6: We play like these two teams. And they're watching those
Speaker 6: games and they're saying, we can do and you down
Speaker 6: Micah and you down Tank and you down Marshaw.
Speaker 4: Kneeling and we're better offensive line wise, and.
Speaker 6: We're better like like Taylor Decker, Uh, Frank rag now
Speaker 6: us mess that.
Speaker 5: I've got it. I'm like Nate Marrafiu.
Speaker 8: I'm trying to throw you. Yeah, mistake.
Speaker 5: I'm like, get out, my boy, Jesse. Yeah, this is
Speaker 5: this defense.
Speaker 6: If you want to impress me and to have me
Speaker 6: do a complete one eighty, you're gonna have to You're
Speaker 6: gonna have to bow up.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to bow up.
Speaker 3: This week PFF had, according to Kurt Kirk's Favorite website,
Speaker 3: has their O line ranked second in the league and
Speaker 3: four of their five linemen or ranked top ten at
Speaker 3: their position.
Speaker 8: I'm telling you, I'm telling you.
Speaker 6: They there's gonna be about four fifteen yard four or
Speaker 6: five fifteen plus yard runs in this They're gonna have.
Speaker 3: Four or five yards four or five rushes longer than
Speaker 3: our longest rush from scrimmage one game.
Speaker 8: Okay, these guys play with such great leverage today. They
Speaker 8: can actually throw you on the ground if you get
Speaker 8: off on one foot trying to you know, they can
Speaker 8: actually throw you on the ground. They play with great
Speaker 8: average and great confidence.
Speaker 4: What does great leverage mean?
Speaker 8: What do you mean I can get up underneath you.
Speaker 8: It's like when the guys are down and on all
Speaker 8: fours and the guy who gets up underneath pad level
Speaker 8: gets lower. Yeah, and see, the one of the biggest
Speaker 8: issues ex protest is not that Mazie always has laid
Speaker 8: off the snap, is that he will come up high
Speaker 8: off the snap. You come up how off this guy?
Speaker 4: You know telling backwards?
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're gonna go. You're gonna go for a ride,
Speaker 8: and by the time you feed hit the ground, you're
Speaker 8: gonna be having that lineback and run down, you know. Kurt.
Speaker 4: Before we get out of here, you made a little
Speaker 4: note here.
Speaker 3: Patrick had a really good story up about Jordan Lewis
Speaker 3: on the website.
Speaker 9: He did did a nice job, talked about his injury
Speaker 9: and how bad his foot injury was. It just shattered
Speaker 9: it crazy and then just kind of that intensity he
Speaker 9: brings to the team, even though he's a little guy.
Speaker 6: Maybe I feel like we talked about that about Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 6: Don't we give Jordan Lewis some love on the show?
Speaker 8: Always?
Speaker 9: Yeah, but he's he's kind of becoming up. I'm sure feisty.
Speaker 5: I love George. I love Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: I like.
Speaker 6: Those players play in Detroit. Jeorde Lewis is from Detroit.
Speaker 8: Like I.
Speaker 5: I like the fight that Jordan Lewis brings, like he is.
Speaker 3: He's gonna bring it this game too, with them playing,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, playing the lines.
Speaker 6: Not only that, if you go back, if you look
Speaker 6: on the line him and Amara Saint Brown, Amara said
Speaker 6: something and off he's like many that got cat from
Speaker 6: from Dallas. Jorge Lewis, Man, he was talking crazy. And
Speaker 6: then they asked Jordan Lewis about it, and he's like, man,
Speaker 6: I don't really remember, but if it was something disrespectful,
Speaker 6: then I probably said it.
Speaker 5: Said again again, Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Go look at sounds from the sideline this week? Yeah,
Speaker 3: pretty good.
Speaker 6: So you can you can you can best believe there's
Speaker 6: gonna be a little bit of a game. And even
Speaker 6: I said it quickly even even Trayvon was on micro
Speaker 6: podcast and the clip came up and he was talking about,
Speaker 6: you know, uh, how Jeorde Lewis was getting in with
Speaker 6: with George Pickens from Pittsburgh and and Tremon was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 6: he's like I was telling him, like, bru, how you
Speaker 6: get into with him? I'm guarding him. He's like, how
Speaker 6: y'all get into it? You ain't even guarding him. I'm
Speaker 6: guarding him. So like Jeorde louis just a little He's
Speaker 6: just a little pit bull man. He want to fight
Speaker 6: wherever he's at.
Speaker 3: Want If you ever met him, he's the most low key,
Speaker 3: just chill. He not high strung, just really laid back dude.
Speaker 3: And you see him on the field, you're like he's
Speaker 3: a psycho.
Speaker 8: He's like, you know what, it's all well and good.
Speaker 8: We need to get off the air.
Speaker 4: It's all well and good.
Speaker 8: Y'all talking about this dude that's standing like thirty five
Speaker 8: yards away. You better deal with these dudes up front.
Speaker 8: They got like.
Speaker 4: Four, we got some got some.
Speaker 3: Actually send him to cheer for the Defense this week
Speaker 3: to get free food. All right, Jesse, good stuff, man, Chris,
Speaker 3: get us your your.
Speaker 4: Top five buffets. Tomorrow.
Speaker 8: That'll be good.
Speaker 4: Uh, that'll be a good thing to do tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Nate, thank you, Kurt, thanks for all the stats. Josh Jazz,
Speaker 3: thanks for keeping Chris company in the back. We will
Speaker 3: be back tomorrow, same time, same place.
Speaker 8: I thought.
Speaker 4: I thought I thanked him first, and then yeah, he
Speaker 4: took a little Yeah.
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