WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Opening Camp

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>This is mick Shot streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the official Dallas Cowboys have and now your hosts,

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Spagnola, Everson Walls, Nate Newton, and Bill Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what a beautiful morning it is here in Oxnard, California.

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<v Speaker 2>It is truthfully day number one of Cowboys Camp twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three. It is day number one because there will

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<v Speaker 2>be football players on a football field behind us. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is micshots Bill Jones with Mickey Spagnola. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>Everson Walls, No, Nate Newton. Nate will be joining us

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<v Speaker 2>as we go along here from Oxnard over the course

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<v Speaker 2>of the next several weeks. Everson will eventually join us

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<v Speaker 2>at the Star in Frisco. But Mickey, it is a

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<v Speaker 2>glorious football Wednesday, Sun's out, Sky's blue sixty eight degrees.

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<v Speaker 3>And I already did ten fifteen minute show with Mate

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<v Speaker 3>this morning when he called me.

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<v Speaker 2>At six a m. But it was eight am his time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, did I wake you up? And I said,

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<v Speaker 3>you missed by thirty seconds because my alarm just went off.

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<v Speaker 3>So this was just your own two man show. I

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<v Speaker 3>told him, I audience too. You all we did right

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<v Speaker 3>now should have been when we started the show. You

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<v Speaker 3>need to be here, and he goes, oh, I gotta

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<v Speaker 3>wait till the pads come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, and the pads will come on on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a ramp up period, of course, by NFL rules,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the CBA, And of course the team arrived

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<v Speaker 2>here in Oxnard on Monday. We had the State of

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys press conference yesterday. We've already had breaking news

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<v Speaker 2>here in the first thirty six hours here, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be fun as we go along here as the

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys of course, will be here for the next going

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<v Speaker 2>on three weeks, and then the first preseason game back

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<v Speaker 2>home in Jacksonville, then another week here. So all told,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be four weeks here in Oxnard, and goodness, before

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<v Speaker 2>that second preseason game at Seattle, they will be breaking camp.

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<v Speaker 2>But wow, it's it's just great to have football back again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes it is, and it's been a while. And unfortunately

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<v Speaker 3>these first few practices are basically mini camp practices, so

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<v Speaker 3>no contact.

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<v Speaker 2>They might be better than the current mini camp practices

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<v Speaker 2>are though, just because they're not, they've scaled back mini

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<v Speaker 2>camp practice.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they probably scale back this because they all want

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<v Speaker 3>to get fined again for too much physicality, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't want the defensive backs trying to break up

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<v Speaker 3>passes or anything forbid.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, you can go online and see the

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<v Speaker 2>restrictions that are in the CBA. It's there very specific

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<v Speaker 2>as to what all the teams can do during this

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<v Speaker 2>first four day period. Then there's a mandatory day off

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<v Speaker 2>of the players, which will be on the fifth day,

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<v Speaker 2>which in the Cowboys case will be Sunday, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they'll put the pads on on Monday. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, So we'll go through this basically. What we'll be

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<v Speaker 3>able to find out here in a couple hours is

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<v Speaker 3>just sort of how they're lining up different guys on

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<v Speaker 3>the different units. Mike McCarthy already said that they would

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<v Speaker 3>start the offensive line like they left off in the

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<v Speaker 3>mini camp, so that kind of gave us a clue

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<v Speaker 3>of what they're going to do. And I guess that

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<v Speaker 3>suggests that Tyron Smith will be at left tackle and

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<v Speaker 3>Tyler Smith will be at left guard, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 3>go from there until we get to right guard, where

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<v Speaker 3>Zach Martin, unless he showed up right and early this morning,

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<v Speaker 3>was not on the charter flight.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's one of two major stories that we have here,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll get to Terrance Steele as well. The other

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<v Speaker 2>thing yesterday the Cowboys place the second round draft pick,

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<v Speaker 2>the tight end Luke schoon Maker on n f I.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a previously existing planter fascia issue his foot

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<v Speaker 2>that he's been dealing with throughout the off season. And

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<v Speaker 2>then Jordan Lewis, the veteran cornerback coming off the Liz

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<v Speaker 2>Frank fracture last season, as expected, starts training camp on pup.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and and that was it. You know, there

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<v Speaker 3>was Terrance Steele is active, and he's active. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know ready he is, I was told not as ready

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<v Speaker 3>as maybe you want him to. But the deal is,

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<v Speaker 3>when you put a guy on pup, he can't do

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<v Speaker 3>anything with the team. He's got to be away and

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<v Speaker 3>the only and the only person he can work with

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<v Speaker 3>is the trainer or strength coaches. Can't even interact with

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<v Speaker 3>his position coach. So they I felt like he was

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<v Speaker 3>far enough along that they weren't worried about a relapse

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<v Speaker 3>or anything. But maybe not ready to start. Although what

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<v Speaker 3>they do early, he might be able to do some

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<v Speaker 3>of that, but they felt like by time a week

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<v Speaker 3>or so passes that he should be good to go,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're gonna ease him in, right, same thing with

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Pollard, Gonna ease him in. You're not trying to

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<v Speaker 3>win the super Bowl week one of training camp. You

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<v Speaker 3>need these guys ready to start the season. So they

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<v Speaker 3>feel pretty good about both guys being ready to start

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<v Speaker 3>the season, but just maybe not do everything the start

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<v Speaker 3>of training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So I mentioned the two major stories that

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<v Speaker 2>became official yesterday, although it leaked out last week about

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Martin and then Trayvon Diggs signed to a long

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<v Speaker 2>term contract that was huge for the Cowboys. We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to Zach in just a second, but let's start with

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<v Speaker 2>Trayvon Diggs. Here a five year contracts extension ninety seven

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars that can get up to one hundred million,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one point twenty five million dollars signing bonus. It

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<v Speaker 2>was huge to get Draymond Diggs signed before camp started.

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<v Speaker 3>And even more important to him forty two point three

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<v Speaker 3>million guarantee you And that's what we always look at right.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, we got to see with the incentives,

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<v Speaker 3>it can get just a little bit more than one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred million, but we got to see how it's uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, how it's mapped out. So but the big

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<v Speaker 3>thing is forty two point three million. I would imagine

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<v Speaker 3>with half of that guarantee a signing bonus that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be three years something and then there's those

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<v Speaker 3>big base salaries at the end. So we'll see. But

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<v Speaker 3>by time those base salaries would hit, the salary caps

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<v Speaker 3>going up, and it's going up huge next year. It

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<v Speaker 3>may go up twenty five thirty million next year when

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<v Speaker 3>the TV new TV contract hits in. So that's how

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<v Speaker 3>they're structuring contracts going forward. But that's huge to get

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<v Speaker 3>him done because you can only next year franchise one guy,

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<v Speaker 3>and you got to think about you you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>Terrence Steele unless they can get him signed to a

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<v Speaker 3>long term deal. Look at his position and what exactlyise

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<v Speaker 3>and I saw online somewhere where they estimate market value,

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<v Speaker 3>and that someone estimated his market value at thirteen million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars a year, and it's like, well, if it's that much,

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<v Speaker 3>then Matt will let's go better get ready because they're

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<v Speaker 3>probably not gonna pay both starting offensive tackles that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of money. So they would like to sign him to

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<v Speaker 3>a long term deal. They wanted to sign Tony Pollard

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<v Speaker 3>to a long term deal. My information was they were

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<v Speaker 3>working on a three year deal. They couldn't come to

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<v Speaker 3>an agreement on a total. So he's gonna play ten

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<v Speaker 3>million do on the franchise tag. But he'll be a

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<v Speaker 3>free agent too next year, so you got to factor

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<v Speaker 3>that in. Tyler Biattish is on the final year of

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<v Speaker 3>his contract, so they've got some contract stuff to still

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<v Speaker 3>work on. Uh ceedee. Lamb would be going into his

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<v Speaker 3>fifth year option that they picked up at seventeen million.

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<v Speaker 3>They would like to sign him to a long term deal.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Dak Prescott's gonna come along too, So yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's this is his third year already, right. Uh So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they've got some things that they got to take care of.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not panicking. And I saw somebody already pointing out, well,

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<v Speaker 3>don't worry about the future, spend your money now. Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine, but there is a salary cap this year too.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's big from the Cowboys perspective, and

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<v Speaker 2>I like from Trayvon's perspective too, that he decided to

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<v Speaker 2>take this deal. I think I read where it makes

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<v Speaker 2>it his average per season, which is a little shade

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<v Speaker 2>over nineteen million a season. With the extension, it would

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<v Speaker 2>make him the fifth highest paid cornerback in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, his ego could have got the best of him.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be paid for the best, and he

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<v Speaker 2>understands the situation that he has here. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>understands and he understands the the market. He understands the

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<v Speaker 2>you know with the Cowboys, his marketability himself, and the

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<v Speaker 2>money that he can make aside from his contract. He's

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<v Speaker 2>in a very good position here, and so I just

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a very mature way to approach his

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<v Speaker 2>future and you know, set his family up for generations.

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<v Speaker 3>So you said it averaged nineteen something a shade last

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen Okay, so we looked up, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Five years, ninety seven million. I guess it's the it's

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<v Speaker 2>the extension part of that, not his current contract. It

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<v Speaker 2>factored into that, right would be what nineteen point.

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<v Speaker 3>Five because he's I think he's at four point three

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<v Speaker 3>base salary right this year so we looked up what

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<v Speaker 3>the franchise tag would be this year for a cornerback

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<v Speaker 3>and it was eighteen point one million. So if he's

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<v Speaker 3>averaging nineteen, they're looking at well, if he was franchised

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<v Speaker 3>this year and then next year, you got to do

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<v Speaker 3>twenty percent more, so that would be around twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty two million.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if both sides want to get a deal done,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty easy to figure out what the money will be. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>space off, you know, Okay, well here's the franchise tag

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<v Speaker 2>number now and what it would be perhaps this year,

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<v Speaker 2>and you kind of work off of that and you

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<v Speaker 2>can figure out where it needs to be.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why when I see this, well just just

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<v Speaker 3>sign these guys. Well it's got to be you know,

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<v Speaker 3>good for both sides. Right, And they wanted to say

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's like, well the Cowboys didn't want to pay a

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<v Speaker 3>running back. Well they did, but they wanted to pay

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<v Speaker 3>them within reason.

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<v Speaker 2>And now look around the league.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and see what's happening to the running backs. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not like they devalued. They were trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make an investment going forward. And from Tony Pollard's standpoint,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, these guys that want to bet on themselves

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<v Speaker 3>and play on a one year deal, and you take

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<v Speaker 3>a chance on injury, and then you go into free

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<v Speaker 3>agency with an injury, right, and then how do you

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<v Speaker 3>market yourself? The other thing is is he's got to

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<v Speaker 3>look at the market value for running backs going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to be twenty seven next year. Now, is

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<v Speaker 3>somebody going to give him more than a two or

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<v Speaker 3>three year deal going forward for a running back? No,

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<v Speaker 3>because twenty eight years old is usually the line of

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<v Speaker 3>demarcation between being very productive and starting to regress.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, five years in the league and now they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have the same number of carries that Zeke had rightly

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<v Speaker 2>after his first five years in the league. But he's

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<v Speaker 2>getting into that range there where, Okay, he you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the average career span for a starting running back, especially

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL, right, you know, got to be south

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<v Speaker 2>of four years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely. And then the other thing you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>also factor in and just think of what nearly happened

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<v Speaker 3>to Dak Prescott playing on the franchise tag. He has

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<v Speaker 3>that gruesome injury. If it was worse, the Cowboys would like, okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but we'll let you go into free agency

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<v Speaker 3>and see what somebody wants to sign you, not knowing

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<v Speaker 3>that when free agency begins, you can't walk into anybody's

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<v Speaker 3>facility without some sort of artificial assistance, right, So that

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<v Speaker 3>hurts your market value. So yeah, you got to be

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<v Speaker 3>careful saying yeah, I'm gonna play on this franchise tag.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that brings us to Zach Martin and ye,

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<v Speaker 2>so what do you think is going on here with

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Martin?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he wants he wants an extension. Basically, he wants

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<v Speaker 3>more money. Right now. When he signed that contract, that

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<v Speaker 3>was a pretty darn good contract, it was what six years,

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<v Speaker 3>eighty four million dollars, and so as you move along,

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<v Speaker 3>contracts increase, right. But I saw a deal where and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure what it meant, but it said his

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<v Speaker 3>contract value. It didn't say how they valued it, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was the second highest next to Lindstrom's that was

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and two million that he just signed, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, as far as interior offensive yeah, or guards.

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<v Speaker 3>Guards, that's what I meant. Yeah, And so now it

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<v Speaker 3>reminds me of the story I've told you before about

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<v Speaker 3>Greg Ellis. He signed a long term deal like six

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<v Speaker 3>seven million, and then a year or two later, the

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<v Speaker 3>market for defensive ends went way up, and he kind

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<v Speaker 3>of was butt hurt because he felt like he was underpaid.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, we were at a lunch bill and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Pat Summer all well, God rest his soul, and we

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<v Speaker 3>were He was wanting to know why why is Greg

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<v Speaker 3>ellis upset? And I was explaining to him that when

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<v Speaker 3>he signed his contract, he signed too long and then

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<v Speaker 3>the market value for defensive ends went up, but he

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<v Speaker 3>still had two years left on his old contract. And

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<v Speaker 3>I said something like I said, well, I said, unfortunately

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<v Speaker 3>for Greg, he came along too soon. And some are

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<v Speaker 3>all in his deep voice goes, we all came along

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<v Speaker 3>too soon. So that's kind of what's happening with Zach

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<v Speaker 3>Martin right now. And you know, he's what thirty thirty

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<v Speaker 3>two now, I believe going on thirty three.

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<v Speaker 2>He will be thirty three November twentieth.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, Tyron Smith will be thirty three Undercember,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's the oldest.

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<v Speaker 2>He's older, Yeah, Tyron Smith, even though Tyron came into

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<v Speaker 2>the league three years before Zach Martin and did of course,

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<v Speaker 2>Tyron came in as the ninth overall pick in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eleven after just three years at USC and Zach Martin

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<v Speaker 2>was already what a twenty four year old out of

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame when he was the sixteenth pick in the

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<v Speaker 2>draft in twenty fourth So I think, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think Zach looks at what's happened with Tyron.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The difference here, obviously, over the last three years, Tyron

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<v Speaker 2>has had a difficult time to staying on the field,

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<v Speaker 2>and Zach, another credit to his future Hall of Fame status,

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<v Speaker 2>is he very, very very rarely misses games. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you look, you look just across the room, the offensive

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<v Speaker 2>line room, and you see what's happened with Tyron's contract.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Zach, if he has an injury plagued

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<v Speaker 2>year or something like that, he could be in the

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<v Speaker 2>same boat here in a couple of years when his

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<v Speaker 2>contract or next year, when he's going into.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year, next year, the last one. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>that's what he's looking at. And you know, this didn't

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<v Speaker 3>just happen. They talked him a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 3>about trying to work out an extension. And now I'm

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<v Speaker 3>thinking back to the OTAs in mini camp when he

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<v Speaker 3>was just basically rehabbing, he said a little soft tissue

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<v Speaker 3>something maybe not right. He might have been making the

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<v Speaker 3>first volley at a renegotiation there in the off season.

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<v Speaker 3>And really for this first week, he's not going to

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<v Speaker 3>miss anything except for money. Yeah. Well, and from what

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<v Speaker 3>I keep reading, for a veteran under contract, fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 3>a day and it's not supposed to be waived either.

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<v Speaker 3>Before you could say, oh that's okay, well, it's I

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<v Speaker 3>think in the CBA that you've got to pay that.

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<v Speaker 3>So now you can negotiate that into the extensions obviously, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but otherwise it's a fine, right, So but we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>where that goes. I think they'll figure that out. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see him missing any game time, and yeah, gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>he's so good he can probably miss alli training camp

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<v Speaker 3>and still be Zach Martin as long as you stay healthy,

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<v Speaker 3>right right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there you go. That's a very smart thinking there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, they'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Do that for you too, put the sign on the door.

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<v Speaker 2>John McLean a veteran reporter down in Houston. He grew

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<v Speaker 2>up a Cowboys fan, I believe, and went to Baylor

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, but of course he's covered Houston sports for decades.

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<v Speaker 2>He tweeted this just moments ago. I love training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>My first was nineteen seventy seven. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>did on the first day of school. Every year, the

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<v Speaker 2>start of Texans camp means we're one step closer to

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<v Speaker 2>the start of the season. We can say that about

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys camp too, And Jerry was talking about it at

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<v Speaker 2>the press conference. In fact, he was the last question

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<v Speaker 2>basically of the press conference yesterday. He was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the drive in every year and sentimentally gets and it

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<v Speaker 2>gets to his room here and then he you know,

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<v Speaker 2>settles into his room, then he slips out the back

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<v Speaker 2>door and sleeps at the billboard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was that was great. Well, So Jerry's first

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<v Speaker 3>training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Was eighty nine, ye in the ten thousand Oaks and

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<v Speaker 2>the next year they went to.

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<v Speaker 3>Austin eighty nine, makes this about thirty five.

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<v Speaker 2>It's thirty four years. And this is the seventeenth year

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<v Speaker 2>now that the team has trained in uh Oxnard. And

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<v Speaker 2>of course there were a few years in there that

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<v Speaker 2>they split training camp right between San Antonio and Oxnard

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<v Speaker 2>and had had the one year COVID year obviously was

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<v Speaker 2>in Frisco. But basically the Oxnard journey began I think

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>So when does when was your first.

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<v Speaker 2>My first training camp was nineteen eighty two this year,

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<v Speaker 2>working for a television station in Lubbock and had the

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<v Speaker 2>great fortune of having a news director who loved the

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<v Speaker 2>cowboys and so it was not a hard sell at

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<v Speaker 2>all for us to come out the Thousand Oaks.

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<v Speaker 3>For a week.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just amazing how things have changed over the

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<v Speaker 2>decades and even how we do business. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you know we're sitting here doing a podcast. Right

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<v Speaker 2>when we get done here, I'm going to do something

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<v Speaker 2>with Mickey for CBS where I've got Mickey. They have

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<v Speaker 2>supplied me with two wireless microphones.

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<v Speaker 3>And I used my phone to did you get the

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<v Speaker 3>little stand for your I got a little tripower for

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<v Speaker 3>the phone and everything. We're going to set that up afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>But getting back to nineteen eighty two, back in that day,

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<v Speaker 2>we used to come out and cover training camp and

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<v Speaker 2>each day we would then drive to Lax from Thousand

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<v Speaker 2>Oaks and it was a good hour, especially through LA traffic,

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<v Speaker 2>and put our tape on a plane that they would

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<v Speaker 2>send it back to, in that case Lubbock, so I

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<v Speaker 2>would get there like the next day and they put

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<v Speaker 2>the story together.

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<v Speaker 3>Back then, I remember that. I mean, my first camp

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<v Speaker 3>was eighty five, so I've done every one except eighty

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<v Speaker 3>eight since then. And so eighty five, eighty five is

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<v Speaker 3>your first week, Okay, So like thirty I think it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to about thirty eight years and this year and

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<v Speaker 3>so yeah, I remember being in Thousand Oaks and the

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<v Speaker 3>TV stations making drives to LA, the Cowboys sending stuff

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<v Speaker 3>back and they had to go to LA to put

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<v Speaker 3>it on some overnight service and then get it.

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<v Speaker 2>To this And then by the time Jerry bought the

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<v Speaker 2>team in eighty nine, most everybody had satellite trucks Big

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<v Speaker 2>Oaks right drive, Yeah, or in a thousand Oaks, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess for one two thousand Oaks. And then in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>the satellite trucks were still a thing even.

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<v Speaker 3>When we came here. We returned right for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And then here in the last decade, I mean literally

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<v Speaker 2>TV camera meant they have little boxes about that big

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<v Speaker 2>called a live view unit that they were able to

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<v Speaker 2>transmit what they're shooting media here on the field that

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<v Speaker 2>immediately goes live back to the TV station. So but

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<v Speaker 2>it's just I mean the whole Yeah, you think about

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<v Speaker 2>it when you come out here, and it's it's great

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<v Speaker 2>to be have this access and be out here and

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<v Speaker 2>so forth, but it's also a grind. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>day starts early and ends late. But there are so

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<v Speaker 2>many you get into a mindset that you're at summer camp,

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<v Speaker 2>right basically now it's like you're a kid at summer camp.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are so many great memories through the years

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<v Speaker 2>of what happened or what has happened at training camp.

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<v Speaker 3>We could write books, right, Yeah, you said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>John was talking about like the first day of school.

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<v Speaker 3>So Monday when we were getting ready to charter flight

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<v Speaker 3>and it was at one o'clock and I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if it was anxiety or anticipation. I woke up at

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<v Speaker 3>five in the morning. We couldn't go back to sleep,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm going come on. So uh now we're you know,

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<v Speaker 3>still on sleeping on Central time, but we're living on

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Pacific Coast time, and it's uh, it takes about almost

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 3>a week to get used to it, the time change anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you have to get used to it when

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<v Speaker 2>you get back home. All right, team on the practice

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<v Speaker 2>field today, what are some of the things that you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for just in terms of uh, you know, position

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 2>battles during camp and that sort of thing that that

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get, you know, and to get started.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a question on Dallas Cowboys dot com for today.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the question was what under the radar position

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 3>battle are you looking at? And I go, well, first

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 3>of all, there's nothing under the radar with the Cowboys,

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 3>And second of all, once the offensive line is settled,

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:57.680
<v Speaker 3>and assuming if Thailand Tyron Smith is playing left tackle

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 3>at the level we're used to seeing him, meaning Tyler

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Smith can play left guard, I mean the battles are

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:09.360
<v Speaker 3>for backup spots and roster spots other than kicker. Now,

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna keep an eye on the kicker. Right, We're

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 3>gonna sit there and chart every kick those guys have

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 3>between Tristan Viscayano and Brandon Aubrey that they signed after

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 3>the offseason workouts. He'd been in the USFL and kicked

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 3>awfully well, which is a really good story.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Michael Gelk in the Morning News, I

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 2>give credit to him. He's got a great story today

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 2>on Brandon Aubrey and his journey. He played for the

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Cowboys when he was five years old.

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Right, but he's soccer, but he played soccer at Plano.

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, Hey, I played soccer at Plano. Was scholarship

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 3>soccer athlete at Notre Dame.

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 2>By the way, and what did Notre Dame do his

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 2>first year when he was a freshman at Notre Dame

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 2>National National championship.

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 3>And he got dryfted into professional soccer soccer Major League Soccer.

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 2>He was a first round draft pick of Toronto FC.

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:12.120
<v Speaker 2>What did they do his rookie season? They won the

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 2>MLS Cup title and then he and and it's long

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 2>story how he didn't transferred over to football. But with

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:26.120
<v Speaker 2>the Birmingham Stallions in the USFL, what did they.

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Do his first year and second year and second year

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 3>they won the USFL championship And and do you know

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 3>who his kicking coach was at Birmingham the second year?

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<v Speaker 2>You tell me Chris Boniell. That's who I was going

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 2>to guess, but I wanted you to have that honor.

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Thank you since I got a text from Chris boniall

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 3>after they signed him and it said, darn you just

0:28:53.760 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 3>signed my kicker. And I was like, what's he talking about?

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 3>The kicking special teams coach in Birmingham And it's like, well,

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 3>how did you get that job? And he goes Skip

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Holtz is that was the head coach. So Skip Holtz

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 3>caught coached all those years at LA Tech and Boniol

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 3>that's where he went to college. So there was a

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 3>connection with LA Tech.

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>There always is a connection.

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 3>So I wrote about it on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 3>Boniol was really high on him. He said he he's

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 3>got the leg, he's got the talent, he's got the demeanor,

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 3>and he said the last thing I told him before

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 3>he left was now, you've got to compete, because that's

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 3>what it comes down to. It's competition. And you're not

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 3>just competing with Vis Guyano. You're competing with the rest

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 3>of the league and anybody else out there that doesn't

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 3>have a job. And I said, you think he can

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 3>handle it. He said, he handled it so far, I said,

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 3>And we ended up talking on the phone and I said,

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 3>so can when he when he competes. You know, you

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 3>got to have the right temperament, right, And he goes, oh,

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 3>he's got that. I said, Now, the hard part is

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 3>they're trying to replace a kicker, and the Cowboys are

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 3>going to have trouble with this. That made ninety percent

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 3>of his field goals last year. You don't find those

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 3>guys just walking on the street. And Boniol goes, my

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 3>guy made ninety two percent of his field coat.

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 2>He was He was fourteen for fifteen on field goals

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 2>this year with birmingam Riam mean, he was thirty five

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 2>for thirty five on extra points.

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 3>And and and so here here's all this stuff works.

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you remember Kevin Holtz. He worked

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 3>for the Cowboys back in the early nineties, son of

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Lou Holtz, right, And so I mentioned that Skip Holtz

0:30:54.640 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 3>was Aubrey's head coach in Birmingham. So he and he goes, oh,

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 3>I just saw the story about the kicker and you

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 3>know my brother and everything he goes, he goes. You

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 3>know how he got started because Skip. The only reason

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Skip knew about him was John Carney. Carne was doing

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 3>kicking the trainers. Well, when this guy decided Aubrey he

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 3>wanted to get into football, Carney ended up being his

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 3>his mentor his teacher. And if I'm remember reading the story,

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Carne and I'd have to look this up if I remember,

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 3>I didn't write it down. Carne had a connection with

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 3>his dad somewhere along the line Arkansas or Notre Dame

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 3>and uh, and so there was all these connection with

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Brandon Aubrey, who we probably I watched that championship game, right,

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 3>I just but I didn't know who he was or

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 3>what he was doing.

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I watched it looking for a kicker. I said, Well,

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 2>as I watched, and I said, I guarantee you John

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Fossil was watching this well. And of course, and of

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 2>course Cavante Turpin came out of the US last year,

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 2>and I said, okay, they they've got they've got to

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 2>have their eye on somebody, because otherwise they would have

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 2>signed another ricer.

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 3>And they kept saying, we were watching everything right. Well,

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 3>what they meant when John said that was Boniol told

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 3>me he came to one of their games to scout

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 3>Aubrey in person. So it was pretty pretty good that

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 3>the connections there. And uh, you know, and I'm sure

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys probably checked with Boniol and you know, what's

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 3>this guy got and he said he had talked to

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Fossil about it, and.

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Uh, John Carney went to Notre Dame.

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 3>He did what it was? Yeah, okay, so that was

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 3>the connection.

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. Yeah, connection from nineteen eighty seven. It's

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 2>amazing how this stuff works. And by the way, the

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 2>last time Brandon Aubrey before the Birmingham Stallions, the last

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 2>time he played for a football team, meaning an American

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 2>football team, not soccer, was in middle school in Plano,

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Shimmelfing Middle School in Plano. He was the kicker and

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver.

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 3>They have kickers in junior high now they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So can't wait to feature him on the

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 2>preseason game.

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely, I can't wait to talk to him when

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 3>he gets out.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's right, all right, time for another break and we

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<v Speaker 3>to me, you went twelve and five, twelve and five,

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<v Speaker 3>and what brought this up when Giannie talked about getting

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't a failure. We just didn't get to where

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<v Speaker 3>the example of Michael Jordan. You know, however many years

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<v Speaker 3>he played and they think they won six championships. He says,

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<v Speaker 3>so all the other years for Michael Jordan were failures.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I asked dan Quinn about it, and dan

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<v Speaker 3>Quinn had an interesting thought. He goes, we have to

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<v Speaker 3>address that. And he goes, and the way I explain

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<v Speaker 3>it to is, you're climbing a mountain, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not starting from the bottom. You're starting from the

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<v Speaker 3>base camp, like where that's kind of where you left off,

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<v Speaker 3>and now you've got to make the climb. And you

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 3>don't talk about failure. He goes, I never used that word.

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Mike McCarthy said, never use that word. So, but for

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 3>the cowboys, they've got to be able to start from scratch.

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 3>But it's not starting from the bottom. You're starting from

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<v Speaker 3>where you you were. Now you got to keep improving.

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<v Speaker 3>And he goes, in that way, they're on the front porch, Yeah,

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.879
<v Speaker 3>the front porch, right, they're on the front porch. They're

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 3>not on the on the grass, right, they took the

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:33.439
<v Speaker 3>steps up to the front porch.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Mike McCarthy was about to quote bum Phillips. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know when he went down that road

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 2>about banging down the door, the door down. Yeah, that

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 2>goes way back to.

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when he was with the Oilers and Oilers couldn't get.

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>To Cowboy Mike Renfro who previously was with the Houston Oilers.

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<v Speaker 2>He was actually in bounds and he was out of bound.

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Stealer fans will say otherwise. But uh, And then they

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 2>came home to the Astrodome and in front of a

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 2>large crowd of the Astrodome, Bum Philip said, uh, they're

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 2>going to kick the kick the door down next year

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 2>with so many words, yeah, something like but you got

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<v Speaker 2>to be on the porch to kick the door down.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think that's way Mike McCarthy looked at it.

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<v Speaker 2>There are so that story's in, by the way, in

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<v Speaker 2>that preview magazine. By the way, there are players around

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 2>the league as camp kicks off here kicking the financial

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<v Speaker 2>door down at their local bank. And justin Herbert the

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<v Speaker 2>Latest yesterday as he gets a five year two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty two million dollar exten point five Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll forget the point five five hundred thousand dollars the

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<v Speaker 2>bill and averages out to what fifty two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half a year. So as far as the average salary goes,

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 2>he's up there at the top. And Joe Burrow, you're

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<v Speaker 2>now on the clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. And so we thought when Lamar Jackson signed his

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 3>five year deal that tops at two sixty. We thought

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<v Speaker 3>when Hurt signed his it was two fifty five. So

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<v Speaker 3>as you see, it keeps going up. And Deck's got

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<v Speaker 3>what two years left on his deal?

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<v Speaker 2>That's right into dex sees.

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<v Speaker 3>That, and I have another guy missing the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>I just saw this Patrick Mahomes now and his his

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 2>contract is yeah, so outdated. Right, he is the average

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 2>salary per year. He ranks third in his division. That's good, right,

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:39.760
<v Speaker 2>But no one justin Herbert and Russell Wilson, no one else.

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<v Speaker 3>Has got a twenty year contract or whatever the hell

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<v Speaker 3>it was with.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight ten something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 2>The Giants have signed their left tackle Andrew Thomas to

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 2>an extension a neighborhood of one hundred and seventeen million.

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 2>So a lot of teams getting things done right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are some holdouts around the league too, not

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<v Speaker 2>only Zach Martin here, but also Nick Bosa in San Francisco,

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Chris Jones in Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 3>You're holding it's all about the money.

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<v Speaker 2>Never Jerry say in the press conference that he never

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<v Speaker 2>never saw a player or walk away unhappy after We're

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<v Speaker 2>going for the money.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, well, and just think about how it's increased. I remember,

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<v Speaker 3>uh that year in Thousand Oaks, we were waiting for

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Dorset to show up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it might see those those training camp holdouts

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 2>were some of the greatest memories you have of training

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 2>camps or.

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<v Speaker 3>When or when he showed up in eighty six after

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<v Speaker 3>they signed herschel Walker to a one million dollars a

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 3>year contract that was unheard of out of the US, right,

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 3>and so Dorset shows up and everybody asked him, what

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 3>did you think about the Cowboys signing herschel Walker And

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.920
<v Speaker 3>he said, feel like a million dollar man. He was

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 3>already negotiating for a pay right.

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 2>And then there was the Randy White hold out one

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.280
<v Speaker 2>year and he was fishing in East Texas.

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 3>It was late twokeny, I think okay, and and somebody

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 3>was fishing there that I think worked at either the

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 3>Fort Worth Paper or the Dallas Times Herald, and they

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 3>ran into Randy fishing on the lake. Because everybody was

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 3>looking for him, they couldn't find him, right, he just

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 3>went out there and got out in East Texas and

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<v Speaker 3>was fishing as he was holding out that year.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, two minute warning goes to both benches here

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<v Speaker 2>as we wrap up this edition of Mixed Shots. You

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<v Speaker 2>got a partying mix shot for us today.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what we were talking about under the radar,

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 3>you know position battles, and I think maybe the most

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 3>under the well, I don't know if it's under the radar,

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 3>but it's Tony Pollard and who at running back? And

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 3>I think that'll be one that we keep an eye on.

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<v Speaker 3>And I still got in the back of my mind

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.320
<v Speaker 3>that Ezekiel Elliot hasn't signed with anybody.

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 2>He has not signed with anybody, and he's still outright.

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Then we're seeing more and more with each passing day

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 2>what the running back market looks like.

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Who just signed for three million dollars? Somebody one of

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 3>those guys, one of the running backs that was out there,

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 3>signed for for three million year deal too.

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Darrenton Evans signed with Buffalo yesterday because they lost Nahim

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Hines to an injury. He okay, this was a non

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:30.839
<v Speaker 2>football injury. He's sitting on his jet ski at the lake.

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I saw that and someone crashes into him and he

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 2>tears his a cl.

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 3>So now they're going to put in contracts no jet skis.

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<v Speaker 3>So so that's my parting shot. You got one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just excited to be out on the to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to watch guys on out out on the football field,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll see what happens.

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 2>It's it's there's always something that happens, you know, and

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 2>these as you as you put it, you know, the

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 2>under the radar piss battles. These teams are all put

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 2>together during the off season, correct, starting with the new

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 2>league year back in March, and then the draft and

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 2>now it's it's just very interesting to follow it as

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 2>things happen. You know, they're player gets tweaked, injury, tweak,

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, not a season ending thing when they need

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:24.800
<v Speaker 2>a reinforcement at that position. Or well, this rookie that

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 2>we drafted, maybe he won't be ready. Maybe you know,

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 2>we haven't the third rounder that we thought might be

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 2>able to push somebody. Maybe we need veteran help there, right, Cowboys,

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:38.359
<v Speaker 2>look at their offensive line, what's going on there as

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 2>far as the health of the players, and do they

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 2>need any more assistance?

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 4>Then?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you think back to last year, it was

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 3>training cap right when they brought in Elik Hooker yep,

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 3>and it took a while for him to get going.

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 2>So look how strong that safety position is now.

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:58.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So injuries, as Brad Sham would always say, we

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.319
<v Speaker 3>go to training camp, who gets hurt yep?

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 2>So that's and hopefully nobody gets hurt today on the

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:08.399
<v Speaker 2>first day of practice out here in a training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, That does it for this edition of Mix Shots.

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<v Speaker 2>The break is coming up here in fifteen minutes and

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<v Speaker 2>we will be back together on Friday morning at eight

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 2>am Pacific time ten am Dallas time. Make it a

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<v Speaker 2>great first day of practice wherever you are, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see you again on Friday here on Mixshots.

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<v Speaker 3>Soya.

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