1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: I think sex education is really important because the earlier 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: and sooner that kids learn about these subjects, the less confusion, shame, 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: and even pain that they're going to go through. 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 3: Hey lady, have you ever felt like the world just 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: doesn't get you? Well, we do. 7 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, the podcast dedicated to uplifting 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: and empowering women like you. 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: We're your hosts, Doctor Dominique Brussard and educator and psychologists. 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: And Terry Lomax, a techie and transformational speaker. 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: Join us every week for authentic conversations about everything from 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: fibroids to fake friends. As we create space for black 13 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: women to just be. 14 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: Before we dive in, make sure you hit that follow 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: button and leave us a quick five star review. 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I look forward 26 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: to hearing from. 27 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: You, lady. Today, we have a very special guest and 28 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: friend of the show sharing an important message that anyone 29 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: who works with or has young people should definitely tune 30 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: in for. Camella Rodriguez as a graduate of Texas A 31 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: and M and Wichita State University with a career background 32 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: and event management and more recently add sales. Her passion 33 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: for relationships led her to start a podcast, which significantly 34 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: deepened her knowledge of the sexual wellness space. Through her journey, 35 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: she realized that many people lack proficiency and sexual health education, 36 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: so she created a course to help bridge that gap. 37 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: Outside of work, Camilla is a fitness enthusiast who frequents 38 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: the gym, loves to travel, and enjoys pottery and hitting 39 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: the driving range. Even though she admits her swing still 40 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: needs a little bit of work. She recently started learning 41 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: how to snowboard and challenges herself to pick up a 42 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: new skill every year. An avid fiction reader with a 43 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: soft spot for a good love story. 44 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: She also finds. 45 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: Joy and her role as a pet parent to several 46 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: fur babies, including her dog Snow, whom she adopted at nineteen. 47 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: Now in her thirties, Camilla swears by her daily wellness routines, 48 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: with dry brushing and staying hydrated being her go to 49 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: tips for filling her best. So Camilla also goes by Cammy. 50 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: So I just want to say, Cammy, welcome to cultivating 51 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: her space. 52 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm honored to be here. I'm so glad, 53 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: thank you for having me on. You're so welcome. 54 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: Yes, we are so looking forward to this conversation, and 55 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: so we are going to start with our quote of 56 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: the day, which Cammy, will sound familiar to you because 57 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: these are your words from you. 58 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: Thank you. 59 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: You're on your website, all right, So our quote of 60 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: the day, The conversation starts with you. I'm gonna say 61 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: that one more time for the folks in the back 62 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: so they can really understand what we are talking about today. 63 00:03:54,320 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: The conversation starts with you, all right, Camy. When you 64 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: hear that quote and you think about this amazing course 65 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: that you created, what comes up for you? What inspired 66 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: that particular quote? 67 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: I think back to my mother, if I can be honest, 68 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: she had me pretty young, and I know for her 69 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: navigating her twenties and her thirties with two twin babies, well, 70 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: you know, we grew up with her, so she had 71 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: us at eighteen, and I know, I think now as 72 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: an adult, I'm like, Okay, I it took me a 73 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: long time to get to a place where I feel 74 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: confident about my sexual health and the information that I 75 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 2: have gathered through the years. And then I think back 76 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: to my mom, and you know, just how she was 77 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: raising us without while she was also getting to know herself. 78 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: And so whenever she gave U us the sex talk 79 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: quote unquote, it was it was lacking a lot of information. 80 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: And I think that's just because she wasn't educated in 81 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: it either. And I know that the conversation started with her. However, 82 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: you know, she didn't have all the tools that she needed. 83 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: So that that was my inspiration with that quote. Is 84 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: I know for any parent, it's obviously like sex is 85 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: a really sensitive subject because a you know, you're wondering, Okay, 86 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: what age do we need to have these conversations? What 87 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: do I want to teach them? You know, then there's 88 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: a shame of like, oh am I teaching them too much? 89 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: Or am I doing this wrong? And I think a 90 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: lot of people probably overthink it. So I think at 91 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 2: the end of the day, if you're a parent trying 92 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: and you start the conversation and whatever capacity you're at, 93 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: and however you can hold space like that's important and 94 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: it just needs to open that door and that's the 95 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: that's the piece that's needed. So so yeah, shout out 96 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: to your mom. 97 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: That's so beautiful. So caim me before we jump You're welcome, 98 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: before we jump into your origin story, can you just 99 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: maybe help listeners kind of like get grounds on this 100 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: topic and just talk about why it's important because I 101 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: know a lot of people. I know many people, I'll say, 102 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: who have children and they are not having like thorough 103 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: sex conversations, And a lot of folks that I know 104 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: they just avoid it outright. They're just like, you know, 105 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: if I avoid it, just pretend it isn't there, like 106 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: it won't like it'll just, I don't know, make an 107 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: impact in some way. But it's like it may not 108 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: make the impact you want. So in your opinion, like 109 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: why is this topic about empowering the next generation through sex? Education. 110 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: Why is that important? I think it's important because, at 111 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: the end of the day, you know, sex is a 112 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: big part of being a human. And I how do 113 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 2: I want to say this? I think you know as 114 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: teenagers and I you know, for example, I discovered masturbation 115 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: at ten years old, and I had no idea what 116 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: I was doing or what it was, and you know, 117 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: and it brought a lot of confusion through my teen years. 118 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, as a teen and as 119 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: an adolescent, you're going through so much. You're trying to 120 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: learn this world, and then also you have all these 121 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: hormones that are suddenly turning you on and giving you 122 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: these feelings that you don't know what to do with. 123 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: So I think sex education is really important because the 124 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: earlier and sooner that kids learn about these subjects, the 125 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: less confusion, shame, and even pain that they're going to 126 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: go through. So I hope I answered your question correctly there. 127 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, yes you did, And so I appreciate your 128 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: grounding us in why this is important. And so so 129 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: let's go back a little bit and let's get your 130 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: origin story. So you talked about your mom having you 131 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 3: and your twin at when she was eighteen years old. 132 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: We heard your bio but te lesson on the in between. 133 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: How did you get to be the Cami that sits 134 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: here before us today? Sure, so I think, oh, where 135 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: do I want to start? You know, I have to 136 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: say so. 137 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 2: I am from Argentina, That's where I was originally born. 138 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: And I migrated into the US when I was eight, 139 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: which is pretty scary, you know, had to learn a 140 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: new language, I was starting school. I was, you know, 141 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: the only people I had in my corner were my 142 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: mom and my sister, my grandpa. At that point, I 143 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 2: was removed from the rest of my family, my cousins, 144 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: the life that I knew, you know. But I'm really 145 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: grateful because I feel like coming to the United States 146 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: brought a lot of opportunity for me. As a teen, 147 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: my mom remarried and then so we had a bigger family, 148 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: and that was really fun. As a teen, I was 149 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: very emotional, and I don't want to say that I 150 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: was like a like a late bloomer, but I didn't 151 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: have sex until I was about eighteen. But I was 152 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: pretty confused about what it all was for a long time. 153 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: I remember, I think up until I was like sixteen, 154 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: I thought sex was just two people that were naked 155 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: together lying down. That's it. And then yeah, I mean 156 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: I would say in college, I got to know myself more, 157 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: my body more. I was studying vertebrate zoology. I wanted 158 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: to be a vet. However, I love sciences, but they're 159 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: not my forte. So I had a dream of being 160 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: a vet, but that didn't come to fruition. I started 161 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: my masters, I met someone that I was in a 162 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: long term relationationship with, and then I and that was 163 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: in Kansas. And then but four years in twenty twenty happened. 164 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: I moved to California and my fiance then and I 165 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: broke up and I basically started a new life. So 166 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: I started my podcast with my twin about relationships and 167 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: just kind of kind of talking about like dating and 168 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: sex and sexuality and exploration and all those things, which 169 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: I do try to keep my podcast separate from this course. However, 170 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: my podcast Double Teamed was a huge inspiration for the 171 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: course as well. And so through you know, my network 172 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: of not only like like health and wellness coaches and 173 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: sex therapists and other people in the sexual wellness based 174 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: teaching about safety and consent and all those things led 175 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: me to a position where I felt like I really 176 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: got to know who I was in all areas, not 177 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 2: only just like you know, career and spiritually, but also 178 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: just like within my body and like how I respond 179 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: to other people. So that's what led me here. 180 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: Amazing, Thank you so much. Nice full circle origin story there. 181 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: And then when you think about I was thinking about 182 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: what you said about when you were sixteen and like 183 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: how you beat sex. If you could just go back 184 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,359 Speaker 1: in time and give your younger self advice about either sex, sexuality, 185 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: sexual education, Like what would you say to that younger 186 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: version of Cami who's trying to figure things out? Maybe 187 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: like you're eighteen and you're having sex and trying to 188 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: make sense of it, Like what would you even say 189 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: to yourself at that stage and age in your life. 190 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: I would say, first of all, to just slow down 191 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: a little bit. You know. It's also I think, especially 192 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: like being a teen, there's a lot of peer pressure. 193 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: You know, your friends are losing their virginity, your friends 194 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: are doing this, other people are doing that. You don't 195 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: know what you want. You know, maybe you're in a relationship, 196 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: maybe you're not. I would tell my younger self to 197 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: a just like, slow down, feel into my body. What 198 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: do I want to say yes to? What I want 199 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: to say no to? I would also just say like, 200 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: don't be so you know, ashamed or scared of, like 201 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: oh you did something okay, you know you had your 202 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: first kiss or you had your first oral moment. It's 203 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: not something to be ashamed of. Everybody does it. So 204 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: I would give her those two pieces of advice just 205 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: because I know that younger Cammie had a lot of 206 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 2: shame in her own discovery at a young age. 207 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, what beautiful advice to give your younger self. 208 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: And I think that as you were sharing that, I 209 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 3: think of how many other young people me to hear 210 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: that now as they are starting to experience themselves as 211 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: sexual beings. But then how many older adults need to 212 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: hear that as well to release some of the shame 213 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: and guilt that they have about experiences that they had 214 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 3: from their youth. 215 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 2: And so Camy. 216 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: When you tell us about your course Empowering Caretakers Navigating 217 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: Sex Education with Kids and teens, when I when I 218 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: look through the course I took the course, it to 219 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: me what I love about it is that it spans 220 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 3: all ages of childhood, and it's very thorough and developmentally appropriate. 221 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: Oh thank you, which. 222 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people don't think about that, like, wait, 223 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: we should be talking to kids about sex from the 224 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: moment that they're born. But what we tell a six 225 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: month old is different than whatuld we a different conversation 226 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: than we would be having with a seventeen year old. 227 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: And so tell our listeners why why this course is 228 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: so important and what they can gain from taking the course. 229 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: I think so. I think what's most important is and 230 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: the reason why my co creator and I'm Katelan, we 231 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,479 Speaker 2: wanted it to start. We wanted to start the conversation 232 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: early because I think that removes a lot of the 233 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: shame of having the conversation later, or at least like 234 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: the awkwardness for a parent. For example, I have a 235 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: friend I went to go visit her last year. She 236 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: has three boys. One is about six months old, I 237 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: think the other two are three and four, somewhere around 238 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: that age. And I remember we were all getting into 239 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: her car and I was telling her about how I 240 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: was creating this course and she was like, I think 241 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: that's great and mine. You know, she's from the Midwest, 242 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: different from California. Everyone has their own set of rules. 243 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: And she was like, I think that's phenomenal. And then 244 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: she turns to her little boys and she goes, she goes, boys, 245 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: what parts do you have? And they both go A penis? 246 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: And I thought that was so like good a because 247 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: she just said it. She just said the word penis. 248 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: There was no shame in it, there was no awkwardness, 249 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: it was just exactly what it was. And then where 250 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: was I going with that? Fast forward to you know, 251 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: I'm back here at home. I have a friend who 252 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: has twin babies. They're three years old. They're my niece 253 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: and nephew. I have been helping, you know, raise them 254 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: as much as I can because I absolutely love them. 255 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: And I think too, you know, their upbringing and how 256 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: their parents are, you know, bring them up. And you know, 257 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: when I go in for a hug, I'm like, I 258 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: don't just immediately assume like Okay, I'm going to get 259 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: a hug. I ask my niece and nephew like, hey, 260 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: you want a hug? Can I give you a hug? 261 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: You know, because I'm thinking like what if they don't 262 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: want this? What if they want to tell me no? So? 263 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: And then I think of all my friends that have 264 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: like kids at different ages, and splitting the course up 265 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: in different age groups is important because obviously, like there 266 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: is different information that's relevant at different times. Also, one 267 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: of the things that we stress in the course is 268 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: the fact that like you can also just take this 269 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: at your own pace. You buy the course, you have 270 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: access to it for whenever you want. You don't have 271 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: to you know, take it all in one day and 272 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: then you know, immediately teach your kid everything. You can 273 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: just take your time with it. Like now you have 274 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: the information and you get to choose. Okay, when do 275 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: I want to teach them this? Do I want to 276 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: teach them this part? Do I want not want to 277 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: teach them that part? And then from there, like you're 278 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: already opening up the door so I seeeage when they're 279 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: you know, now you don't have three year old babies. 280 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: Now you have a ten year old and you know 281 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: they're starting to figure out that you know, their body 282 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: is changing, maybe they're you know, starting puberty, whatever it is, 283 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: and you want to continue having that just like sense 284 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: of empowerment, like oh I can talk about this freely 285 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: or they know that they can like trust you to 286 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: like use just your full words, not covering anything up 287 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: out of awkwardness or whatever. And then that way when 288 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: you get to the teen years, and now these subjects 289 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: are much more real. You know, now you have to 290 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 2: you know, teach them like okay, because you can't you 291 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: can't be like, Okay, my kid's not going to have sex. 292 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: They're going to at some point. Yeah, like they're going to, 293 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: and I mean alarmingly enough, and it's mentioned in the course, 294 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: but like a lot of kids have sex around what 295 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: is it, fifteen sixteen, Like the average age is somewhere 296 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 2: in that realm. That's before they even reach college. So 297 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: teach them now. So yeah, that I think having all 298 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 2: those different subjects because there's different obviously, there's different levels 299 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: to it. So if you purchase all three age groups, 300 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: you kind of see, like for example, like the anatomy 301 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 2: and terms, you kind of you know, progress with it 302 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: in age with it once you get to the final 303 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: lesson or like for example, nine through twelve will introduce 304 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: new subjects as opposed to zero through eight. So yeah, 305 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: I think my goal with that was just to make 306 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: sure that everyone had the correct information to give and 307 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 2: you know, whether they how when they want to start 308 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: that conversations up to them, but at least it's it's there, So. 309 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is so amazing. First, kudos to you 310 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: for asking for content. I think many of us grew 311 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: up having to hug people that we didn't want to 312 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: hug and be touched on by people that we didn't want. 313 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: To touch us. 314 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: And so I think that's so empowering that you're doing 315 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: that with your niece and nephew, asking them like you 316 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: don't have a hug. And I just think about the 317 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: content that you're sharing your course and how schools need 318 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: that as well. Like it's so important because, like you said, 319 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: I've been around toddler's I have a toddler. Kids are explorative, 320 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: they're touching their body or feeling things, and they're wondering. 321 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: And I think that if we can be honest with them, 322 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: it can help with our relationship with them as well. 323 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: So we're not like lying and telling them one thing 324 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: and then as they get to a new age, it's 325 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: like a new thing that they're like, wait, did you 326 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: lie about this back then? So the question I want 327 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: to ask you is what's the biggest myth or misconception 328 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: you've encountered when it comes to sex education, whether it's 329 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: something you've heard from people when you're doing your research, 330 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: or even a personal experience, like what are some of 331 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: the biggest myths in misconceptions? Because Domini learned some stuff 332 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: when we were looking through your course, we were like, oh, 333 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: at this big age, we had to get a reminder here. 334 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: We didn't know this, so yeah, we'd love to hear 335 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: that from you. 336 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 2: Well. I think, especially back to, for example, my friend 337 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: just teaching her kids like the word penis. I think 338 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: one of the biggest misconceptions is that if kids start 339 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: learning these words that like not necessarily that it ages them, 340 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: but it's inappropriate. And I'm like, it's not inappropriate, it's 341 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: just an anatomical term. You have to be able to 342 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 2: teach it. I think if you hear you know, if 343 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: you think back to some of the news headlines you've 344 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: seen before of like a little girl being taught that 345 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: her vagina was a called cookie. So she would tell her, 346 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: you know, teacher, my uncle touches my cookie. She never 347 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: thought anything of that. The teacher was like, oh, okay, cool, 348 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: like what's a cookie? You know? But then and the 349 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: news article goes on to explain like it was you know, 350 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: obviously the little girl was being sayed and she didn't 351 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: even know it because she wasn't taught the correct term. 352 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: So I think that's one of the biggest misconceptions is 353 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: that it's like it's inappropriate to teach your kid. No, 354 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 2: it's not about sex. It's not you have to do 355 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: it even from a young age because you want to 356 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: avoid these situations specifically. And also, I mean, it's going 357 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: to empower your kid a lot more to speak up 358 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: for themselves if they know if you're showing the confidence 359 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: in those subjects, they're going to show that confidence back. 360 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: They're going to reflect it. So yeah, I'm trying to 361 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: think of any others I think, I don't know. I 362 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: think one is that parents, especially like when you think 363 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: about the age of like okay, thirteen fourteen, they're in 364 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 2: high school, and I think a lot of parents think, like, Okay, 365 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 2: they're going to learn a lot of this in school, 366 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: not necessarily because a you don't obviously, what curriculum is 367 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: taught at a school is dependent not only on the 368 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: state obviously, but what's mandated federally, et cetera. And then 369 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: ultimately you know what class is it being taught in 370 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: and is it how deep is it going? I believe 371 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: when I was in school, most of what we learned 372 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: was through my biology class, which was we learned like 373 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: the anatomical terms. We learned the scientific part of a period, 374 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: like what was happening. But it's not like they taught 375 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: us like, oh okay, here are the products you need 376 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: to use during your menstrual cycle. This is what's going 377 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 2: to happen to your body. So all schools are different. 378 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 2: You can't just assume that the school is going to 379 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: do that job for you. I think that's another misconception 380 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: for sure. 381 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: Yes, oh my goodness, Yes, I've done a lot of 382 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 3: research on sex education and the policies and the evolution 383 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 3: of absentence only to comprehensive and all the things in between, 384 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: and very few schools do comprehensive sex education. So that's 385 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 3: why I appreciate what you're versus offering, because your course 386 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: is offering a guide for caretakers to be able to 387 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 3: disseminate accurate information to the children in their lives. And 388 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: I appreciate that you in your course you emphasize using 389 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 3: the word caretakers and not parents, because there are lots 390 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: of adults in young people's lives that could be disseminating 391 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 3: this information, not just their parents. And so when we 392 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: think about that that it's not just parents, why do 393 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: you think that that's important for the caretakers to be 394 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: the ones disseminating information. 395 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: Because I know, at the end of the day, not 396 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: every family looks the same. So you know, you might 397 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 2: have a kid who I don't know, something happened to 398 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: their parents and they're not in the picture. They're being 399 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: taken care of by their aunt and uncle. That means 400 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: that that aunt and uncle are in a primary caretaker role. 401 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 2: They're the ones raising this kid. They're the ones that 402 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: need to be able to have this conversation and guide 403 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: them through life. So I think that's really important because sure, 404 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: I grew up with a mom and dad, and I 405 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: could just stand there in a privileged, privileged position where 406 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, yeah, I have a mom and dad. 407 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: Everybody has the same No, they don't. Everyone's caretakers as 408 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: they go through life look different. So I want to 409 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 2: be inclusive to that. 410 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: That's so amazing. I think the more inclusive we can 411 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: be with this conversation is the more approachable it'll feel 412 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: to people as well because they can kind of see 413 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: themselves in the content, I think, which is great. So, Katy, 414 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: I want to know, have you seen anything on social 415 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: media in particular like that made you pause and things? 416 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: I know there's so much going on social media that 417 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: made you pause and think, like we need to address this. 418 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: A set like this thing that's going around I know, 419 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: TikTok what do they call it, TikTok University, where people 420 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: are stating erroneous information on TikTok or on other platforms 421 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: about sex in general or just different. I think I 422 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: saw something that you and your sister were talking about 423 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: on your page about aftercare, but anything related to sex 424 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: in general that you're like, we need to we need 425 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: to correct this, like this is not right right when 426 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: it comes to kids or anything in general. 427 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: Sure, to be honest, I'm not on TikTok a lot. 428 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: I'm mostly on Instagram. I think. I think I see, 429 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: thankfully through my platform, I see a lot of creators 430 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 2: stepping up and giving more correct information, which I think 431 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: goes to show that the world is starting to wake up, 432 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: We're starting to go in the right direction, because I 433 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: know through my sex education in the last like four 434 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: years as a podcaster in this space, I saw a 435 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 2: lot of like, for example, stigma on STDs and like, 436 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: oh you should be you know, you'd see your real 437 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: about someone making fun of like oh someone has heard herpes, 438 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: like make fun of that or I'm not sleeping with 439 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 2: this person whichever, And I look at content like that 440 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, that's really sad because a lot 441 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: of people have herpes and you want to make sure that, 442 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: you know, they feel empowered in their sex life and 443 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: how to talk about it. And so it's just it's 444 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: things like that where it's like either people bring like 445 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: shame and stigma on a certain subject and they just 446 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: don't know enough information. I think her piece is actually 447 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: a very good example for that because there's just way 448 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: too much incorrect information on that. And then also just 449 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 2: like STD testing in general, you know you see someone 450 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: say like oh, you know, she went to get tested 451 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: or something like that, like you know, what, who is she? 452 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: Like what is she? You know, maybe they throw the 453 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 2: word like oh, she's a whore for wanting to sleep 454 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: around and then get tested, and it's like wait a minute, 455 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: Like there's nothing wrong with getting STD tested. Actually it's 456 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: a part of your sexual health if you're dating, just 457 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: like everybody else does in this world, like you know, 458 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: you need to do this, they need to do this, 459 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 2: Like it's it's a part of our social responsibility. So 460 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 2: I'm you know, and like I said, thankfully, with the 461 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: accounts that I follow and the people that i've you know, 462 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: have built a community with, I see a lot more 463 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: people posting the correct information and then you know, making 464 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: sure to emphasize for the people who are negatively commenting 465 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: or you know, firing back with like oh but this, 466 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: you know, they check them with the correct information, like hey, no, 467 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: you need to be aware of this. So I would 468 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: say that that's the best example I have for that, 469 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 2: A good one, thank you. 470 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I love that example, and that the necessity to 471 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 3: correct the misinformation, because that's how things get worse. That's 472 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: how sdis and STD spread, that's how stigma gets perpetuated 473 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 3: because there's misinformation out there. So you mentioned inclusivity earlier, 474 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 3: and so I want to think about what does it mean? 475 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: How does one approach providing sex education when let's say 476 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 3: that the children or child in your life has certain 477 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 3: religious beliefs or their parents have certain values that don't 478 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: necessarily align or match up with yours. What would you 479 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: recommend for that child's community in terms of being able 480 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: to offer them appropriate and healthy sex education. 481 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: That's a great question, and that's one of the things 482 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: that I kept in mind when I was creating the course, 483 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: because that's actually one thing that I mentioned in the 484 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: course is everything that we put in is from a 485 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: very factual standpoint. I really try to remove all the 486 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: bias and my you know, my beliefs, just to make sure, 487 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: you know, because there are some subjects in there, like 488 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: for example, queerness or things like that where it's like, 489 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: you can teach this if you want. At the end 490 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 2: of the day, your child is and I say this, 491 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: your child is going to come up on this subject 492 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: at one point in their life, whether they're a kid 493 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: or they're an adult, and then they're going to make 494 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: up their own beliefs about it. I would say, And 495 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: for a community for example, like yes, I would like 496 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: my course to be, for example, in a school or 497 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: something like that, because then I would know, Okay, you know, 498 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: if let's say you have a parent that just doesn't 499 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: want to have this talk at all, you know, then 500 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: at least this child is getting this information at to 501 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 2: some capacity in their school. However, I also realize, you know, 502 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll get in schools. I hope so, 503 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: but we'll see, we'll see where it goes. But yeah, 504 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: you there will be the you know, unfortunate situation where 505 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes a parent just doesn't want to breach 506 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: this subject. So at that point, you're going to have 507 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: a kid who will learn about this either through their peers, 508 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: their friends, you know, their classmates, or just on their 509 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: own as they mature in to an adult, in which 510 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: then at that point I hope that you come across 511 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: my page and they can take the course for themselves, 512 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: you know, since their parents didn't want to, you know, 513 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: give it to them. So yeah, we can. 514 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: I have a two parter for you. Two part of questions, 515 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: So what advice would you give parents and caretakers to 516 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: help their child or team advocate for themselves, especially to 517 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: the parent or caretaker, right, because it's important for kids 518 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: to learn at some point to set boundaries with their parents. 519 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: And then the second part of that is what do 520 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: you do when the boundary is being placed with you? So, 521 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: like if your niece and nephews like, nope, I don't 522 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: want a hug, or like nope, I don't want this right, 523 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: So that's a two parter for you there, sure. 524 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: You know, for there are many times when like I 525 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: go to my niece and nephew and they're like and 526 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, can I have a hugg or 527 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: would you like to give me a hug? And they're 528 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: like no, And I'm like, Okay, we can come back 529 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: to this, like you know, maybe later or maybe not today, 530 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: and that's fine. You know, well, I'll ask you the 531 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: next time I see. I think, you know, especially for 532 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: a parent and or caretaker in the child, relationship boundaries 533 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: are really important. I think it's also just and I 534 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: realize that, you know, everybody, the relationship that you formed 535 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: with your parent is going to be different, you know, 536 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 2: from the next person at the end of the day. 537 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: I think what is most important is that there is 538 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: a b sign of respect in which, especially as a 539 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: parent or caretaker, you see that your kid is trying 540 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: to learn the world. They're you know, trying to navigate 541 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: this as much as you are, and it's hard. You know, 542 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: being a human is hard, and when you're younger it's 543 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: harder because you are very naive and you're learning, and 544 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: some things are a lot bigger of a shock. So 545 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: anything that a parent or caretaker can do just to 546 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,239 Speaker 2: you know, reassure them, hey, I'm here for you, or 547 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: you know, I'm here if you would like to talk, 548 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: whether you're going through something. You know, maybe your kid 549 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: has a a new relationship and you know, or they 550 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 2: got their heartbroken. I don't know, maybe they failed a 551 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: test and you just want to offer them support. I 552 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: think for parents and caretakers and kids, at the baseline, 553 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: there just needs to be a really good foundation of 554 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: respect where you both realize you're both humans. You're both 555 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: gonna get triggered. Something's gonna accept one person, something's gonna 556 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: accept or upset the other, and you can come together 557 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: and find a solution and you can offer support to 558 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: each other. Because I think that I definitely wish I 559 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: had learned that when I was younger, or you know, 560 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: kind of had seen that more is you know, sometimes 561 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: you do just have to, especially like with your care 562 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: your caretaker, your parent, just like take a deep breath 563 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,239 Speaker 2: and realize, Okay, we we will come back to this, 564 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 2: we'll figure this out, but we're here for each other. 565 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: So I love that thank you. 566 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: Did that answer the question? 567 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you did. Yes, And because I think the 568 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: thing that I'm taken away from that is just in general, 569 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 3: this baseline of respect, right, that if there is a 570 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 3: baseline of respect, then communication can come into play and 571 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 3: we can unders we can find a path to understanding 572 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: whether whether that is a boundary that's being said or 573 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 3: there are things that need to be said that might 574 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 3: feel a little difficult or uncomfortable. If there's an underlying 575 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 3: baseline of respect, then these things can be worked out. Yeah, 576 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 3: And so when you think about this course that you've created, 577 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 3: and you know, like we said, it's broken up into 578 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 3: developmental stages. What we know is that information on sexual 579 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: health is constantly evolving. And so let's say that there's 580 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 3: a parent who buys the full package today, right, and 581 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 3: they have, you know, they have like a ten year old, 582 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 3: and then we fast forward five years and they're like, 583 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 3: all right, now, I want to move from what I 584 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 3: was working on with this tent, the conversation I was 585 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 3: having with this ten year old to this now fifteen 586 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 3: year old. How do you will one will they still 587 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 3: have access to the course five years from now? And 588 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 3: two how often will the course be updated. 589 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: Oh that's a great question. Yes, I want with this 590 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: course especially, I want to offer lifetime access. One of 591 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 2: the things that me and my co creator discussed is 592 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: a fact that we do and she has a degree 593 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: in public health, so she is more on the pulse 594 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 2: on this, but we definitely discuss like, okay, as the 595 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 2: years go by, we want to be regularly updating the 596 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: information and keeping it up to date. For example, I 597 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 2: know a lot of things are changing with the CDC 598 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 2: right now and what information's available on there. Unfortunately, I 599 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 2: quoted certain links from the CDC, So tomorrow I'm going 600 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: in and making sure those links still work. If not, 601 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 2: then I definitely will have to link another source for 602 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: that information. But unfortunately, I do realize that like it's 603 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 2: you know, especially for this kind of information, things are 604 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: going to be well, not unfortunately, I would say fortunately, 605 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 2: things are going to be updated or updating and you 606 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 2: know as time goes on, and I want to make 607 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: sure to be providing accurate information all the time. So 608 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: that is the goal is to for the upkeep of 609 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: this is going in and making sure that everything remains relevant. 610 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: It's so good to know. So it's a course that 611 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: can grow and evolve with us as humans as we 612 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: gain more knowledge and insights. 613 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 2: So that's awesome. 614 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: Can we thank you so much for just enishing this conversation. 615 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: Thank you for the course and the work that you're 616 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: doing in the world, because it's so important, so important. 617 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: Sexual health is extremely important, and I'm happy to know 618 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: that we're progressing in ways that are going to be 619 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: helpful for our community. So happy to hear that. And 620 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: also want to know, Kimmy, is there anything that we 621 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: did not cover or a question that you really wanted 622 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: to dive into that we didn't cover before we close out? 623 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 2: No, I thought this was good and I really like 624 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: your questions. Thank you so much. 625 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: Yay, thank you so. 626 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 2: Much, Jimmy. 627 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 3: Yes, and so Cammy, can you tell our listeners because 628 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: I'm sure at this point in the interview they're like, 629 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 3: all right, y'all keep talking about this, but where where 630 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 3: can we find this? 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