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Speaker 1: the Bark Tank, presented by Sugardale and Andrew Siciliano. It

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Speaker 1: is a winning edition of the Bark Tank as the

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Speaker 1: with a win in Philadelphia this past Saturday afternoon. Coming

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Speaker 1: up shortly, we'll talk to Browns quarterback coach Bill Musgrave

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Speaker 1: because as we sit here and record this before the

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Speaker 1: Rams preseason game at Huntington Bank Field, the Browns, as

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Speaker 1: you know by now, have made their starting quarterback decision.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back, however, to Philadelphia, which was Dylan Gabriel's

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Speaker 1: and he looked pretty good. March the Browns down the

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Speaker 1: field on that opening drive. The key stat there third

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Speaker 1: Amani Marshall also looked good on offense. Jamari Thrash came

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Speaker 1: up big as well. Brown's obviously try to solidify that

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Speaker 1: wide receiver three position with Judy and Tillman in those

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Speaker 1: When given opportunities this summer, he sees them. Talked a

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Speaker 1: He said that the different sized football was an issue

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Speaker 1: the results. So Jamari Thrash look good defensively. Listen, We've

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Speaker 1: other show we're doing here. Julian o'quara is a standout

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Speaker 1: team that the Browns face this year. You know about

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Speaker 1: Juwan Briggs was traded to the Jets for a future

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Speaker 1: And this is the first time that Bill Musgrave is

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Speaker 2: Is this the first time?

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Speaker 1: This is the first time, like we've we've spoken clearly before,

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Speaker 2: Right, No, not no, not today, but Jamis did he did? Yeah, yeah, yeah, good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. He went viral too, like ranking Thanksgiving foods, would

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Speaker 1: We'll save it for Thanksgiving. By the way, you were

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Speaker 1: We got to Joe Flacco after this long winding road.

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Speaker 2: Consistency, Joe's been there, done it, tremendous body of work.

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Speaker 2: And you said it about health factors, availability. Joe lined

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Speaker 1: I want to make certain that this is not misconstrued

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Speaker 1: Injuries happened, but the idea that the forty year old

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure he does. He looks great out there

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Speaker 1: And he has this ability as well, I think, to

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Speaker 2: I think he is authentic. He's just himself. He's not

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Speaker 2: When Joe is a younger player, they're in Baltimore, you

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Speaker 2: can imagine the leaders in that locker room were probably

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that, because you and I were

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Speaker 2: Isn't it amazing? Don't you think he's going to be

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Speaker 1: Yes, he is that guy. Yeah, Now is my point, like,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Let's talk about the two young kids as well,

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Speaker 2: So that's a common injury. But he's come back quickly,

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Speaker 1: Talking about you, if you're willing to do that, what's

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Speaker 1: Have you enjoyed working with two young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a blast. Both of them are eager, eager beavers.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not a blast of sitting in the rain.

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Speaker 1: So Bill, we appreciate you sitting here and doing this,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna let you go inside and get dry.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining the bark tank. I'm going to hold

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Speaker 1: you to that bark next.

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Speaker 2: Time, I will. I'll work on it between now and then.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Let meet some Bill Musgrave that that

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Speaker 1: So perfect timing, muskrap. All right, let's do what sizzlind

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Speaker 1: the AFC. Nor If that worked last week, let's do

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Speaker 1: it this week. First off, in Baltimore, a big scare

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Speaker 1: So I always say the NFL is the ultimate reality show.

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Speaker 1: Not to take a shot at your favorite reality show.

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