1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: last stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. What is something you think is overrated? Uh? 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Something I think is overrated is the bar the Griffin. 7 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: I would say the Los Angeles part the Griffin is 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: very overrated. Okay, So I was there on Saturday for 9 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: a friend's birthday party, and I was sitting in like 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: the nook that's towards the entrance, with my back to 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: the bar. And then suddenly I hear you know that 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: sound of like ship going down to the bar. Because 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: you hear this, the chairs go and just like all 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: the furniture moving, and I'll turn around and I just 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: see people rush each other. Then I'm like, wait, hold up, 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of Broadley do like Americans shift on. Wait, 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: there's some Fred Perry shirts. Wait, there's some Maga hats. 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: And I said, in the split second, I went from 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: having my back to a bar and I go, oh, 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: this ship became look like a Proud Boys meet up. 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: And then as we're leaving, I see Josh Androwsky over there, 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: and I said, Oh, you're gonna be on the show Monday, 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: does something to talk about. So yeah, the Griffin always 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: creating content, That's what I like about you. You were like, 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: I gotta have a scoop for the zeitgeist. Uh so 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: tell us what happened. So uh, I was texted by 27 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: a friend who was like, Yo, there's a giant Proud 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: Boys meet up. And by giant Proud Boys, I mean 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: by the number of Proud boys and the girth of 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: the Proud Boys. There were some corn fred hogs in 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: that group, real sweaty guys, the type of dudes that 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: are never not moist, you know. And uh they met 33 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: up at the Griffin and uh so I got some 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: folks from d S a l A, which I'm a 35 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: member of Democratic Socials of America Los Angeles. Uh, and 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: some folks from no Olympics Los Angeles and uh fend 37 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: Northeast Los Angeles, and we were like, let's go because 38 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: um as like socialists and activists. One of our main 39 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: jobs is to make sure that Nazis don't have fun 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: in our city. Um. We're sort of like in that 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: scene in pulp fiction where Marcellus Wallace is like, you've 42 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: lost your Los Angeles privileges. That's us. We're the ones 43 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: who say to the Nazis, you've lost your Los Angeles privilege. 44 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: Now what about these guys? I mean they just sound 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: like they're proud to be boys? What what are probably 46 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: so okay? So you know how Nazis suck. Now imagine 47 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: if Nazis didn't just suck, But we're also super fucking annoying. 48 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: So so you add a layer of frat culture onto 49 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: people who are yearning for a white ethno state, and 50 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: you've got yourself a proud boy. They are run by uh, 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: Gavin mcinness, the former creator of Vice. So they're built 52 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: on a pile of cocaine and underage models. Um. And 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: they do this a lot where they'll they'll they'll go 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: to a bar and try to harass and intimidate and 55 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: provoke people into fighting. Uh. And then they because the 56 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: American conservative, especially the white male American conservative, has it all, 57 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they have it all. The 58 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: one thing they don't have is victimhood. So they want 59 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: that because it's not enough to have power in all 60 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: three branches of government. It's not enough to have white 61 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: supremacy systemically, like like allow you to have more opportunities 62 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: than people of color. Um, what they also need is 63 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: everybody to like them. And so the fact that people 64 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: don't think they're cool drives them fucking nuts. So especially 65 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: when they when you get jumped in you know, when 66 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: you go to the third degree, Yes, and you got 67 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: oversight your cereals and get little tummy tummy punches. Yeah, 68 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we're watching. So these are a couple of 69 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: details about the probably in addition to them. So they 70 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: say they're anti racist, so how could they be bad. 71 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: They're also anti racial guilt. So those two things do 72 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: not they don't. But but a couple of things about them. 73 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: They think that they get like superpowers from not masturbating. 74 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: So they just like brag about how little they've come 75 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: in the last like months. And when you think about 76 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of angry young boys, right, the main thing 77 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: that you want to think about is, um, just fucking 78 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: jerk off, just jerk off on jerk off one fucking time, 79 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: and then maybe, just maybe all of that rage will 80 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: come out of you in the form of life. Yes, 81 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: And uh, they also beat each other into the Proud 82 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: Boy fraternity much like the Bloods and Crips beat you know, 83 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: jump you in. One big difference. Yeah, so they give 84 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: you a little tummy punches. Miles showed me a video 85 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: of one of them, and the guy is lively giggling 86 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: as he's being almost and this is a phrase I 87 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: feel like, I wouldn't say this is almost disrespectful to 88 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: gang members. I mean, like getting jumped in is you 89 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: get fucking stomped out? Like the whole point is like 90 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: can you endure this ship because you're down for the 91 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: set or whatever? And this was anyway, that suffice to say, 92 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: this is not what I would call it jumping in. 93 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: It was some sort of physical kind. It's more like 94 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: bounce housing in. Yeah. Anyway, So cut to the Griffin. 95 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: You're there because your whole thing is, you know, you 96 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: want these people to know that society does not accept 97 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: their presence, especially not in this city. Right and but 98 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: mostly so we didn't want there to be like a 99 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: big giant confrontation. What we wanted to do was to 100 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: alert the bar you know, like, hey, these aren't just 101 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: guys that voted for Trump. The Proud Boys are identified 102 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group, 103 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: and rightfully so. Um, this is a neo Nazi organization. 104 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: Kessler Jason Kellsler, who did the Unite the Right movement, 105 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: He was a proud Boy member. But then I think 106 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: that Gavin McGinnis tried to disavow him and distance himself 107 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: and the group as much as possible from that, even 108 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: though there were many and there still are a bunch. 109 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: You know, it is a hate group. It is. It 110 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: is a white supremacist group. And I'm sorry if there 111 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: are a couple Latinos or a couple Jews, like I'm 112 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: a Jew, and there were Jewish Nazis and there were 113 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: black slave owners, and the reason why is power safety. 114 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: And I think also, you know, these are some weak 115 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: willed people who are not given any solutions by the 116 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: liberal leadership, especially of Los Angeles when our mayor is 117 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: out campaigning in Las Vegas instead of watching over the city. 118 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: And so when you're not given any when liberalism fails 119 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: you and you're not giving any solution, and liberalism takes 120 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: all its time fighting socialism, which offers practical solutions like 121 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: free college, free healthcare, all that ship, then you're gonna 122 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: try to go for somebody that offers you a solution, 123 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: and the right the solution is, oh it's women, Oh, 124 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: it's gay people. Oh it's Jews. Oh it's people of color, 125 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: you know, it's trans people. Um. And so for weak 126 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: willed people, this scapegoat gives them a reason to keep 127 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: going because there's no other solutions being offered to them. 128 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: And so, uh they you know, we we went there 129 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: in order to just sort of explain to the bar 130 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: staff these guys are Nazis. They wear a fucking uniform. 131 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: And and let me just make a quick distinction, because 132 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: there's a ship ton of the dumbest people in the 133 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: world are tweeting at me right now, um, saying, well, 134 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: we're not Nazis. We're not from the nineteen forties in Germany. 135 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, dude, I get it. You're not 136 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: National socialists from Germany, from the fucking Weimar Republic, baby, 137 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: Like you're not. Okay, baby, you're not Himmler's fucking nephew. 138 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: Cha cha uh. But here in America, we have a 139 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: handy term to call right wing hate groups that practice 140 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: fucking discrimination and violence, and it's Nazi. The word works, 141 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: and it's also super funny that these people are the 142 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: ones that are like, what do I have to call 143 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: a trans woman a woman? Why can't I call it him? Him? 144 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: But don't call me a Nazi? You know what I mean? 145 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, a trans woman was born a woman, 146 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: like a trans woman biologically is a woman. Uh, and 147 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: you chose to be a Nazi and you're more precious 148 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: about your identification, you know what I mean. Like, it's 149 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: it's such fucking backwards. Ships. So we go to the bar. 150 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: We implore the bar staff multiple times, like, yo, these 151 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: guys are Nazis, these guys are racists. Literally, one of 152 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: the bouncers goes, um, the only color I see is green? Right? Cool? Yeah, right? 153 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: And so that's Donald Trump Junior lines. It's so fucking like, 154 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, we're we're we're just trying super hard to 155 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: make sure that the bar kicks these people up before 156 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: something goes down, and sure enough, they ignore us. Multiple times. 157 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: Multiple bar staff members told us that they alerted the 158 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: management to this, nothing happened. And um, I'm sitting with 159 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: a group of maybe seven or eight people. There's about 160 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: twenty proud boys, and I see them in circle and 161 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: sort of like a semi circle, a couple of regular 162 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: bar patrons, just normal folks who were there for a 163 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: different birthday party. UM. And that's when I'm like, okay, 164 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: it's my job now to go in. UM. I have 165 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: experience dealing with fascists everywhere, from like shitty l ap 166 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: D officers to you know, just your garden variety Nazi 167 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: fuck um. And so what I do as a as 168 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: a Jew who reads white UM, who like I in 169 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: this moment, and I encourage anybody else who's listening this 170 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: to do this, use your privilege in this moment. You 171 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: I used my privilege to go over and distract them 172 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: from the normal bar patrons who were getting you know, 173 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: very agitated, um, being harassed and encircled by the probablice. UM. 174 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: I didn't catch it all, but you can guess what 175 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: they're saying, yeah, getting around them, And basically, I'm sure 176 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: it had to do with the fact that they were 177 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: flaunting their make America Great Again hats and yelling about 178 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: fucking uh you know whatever, the fun probablys yelled about 179 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: their white ethno state dreams or whatever. UM. And that's 180 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: when I was like, well, let me be a distraction. 181 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm an idiot. What what I do is I'm 182 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: a dick, right, Like, I'm an asshole, but I'm a 183 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: dick to people who deserve it. And so I just 184 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: go out and I be a dick to Nazis. Uh. 185 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: And so I was a dick. I was like, Hey, 186 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: take off that stupid fucking hat, you know. Uh, you know, 187 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: ship like, oh, hey, when's the last time you come? 188 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: You know, like maybe maybe if you came into the hat, 189 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: like it would grow an actual boy. Like to be fair, 190 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: that was the first question you asked me when you 191 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: walked into the last time. Yeah, I mean it's kind 192 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: of like it's on my business card, Um, Josh Andrewski, 193 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: when the last time you come? Yeah? So I was 194 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: just kind of sucking with them, and then before I 195 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: know it, they've all now circled me and my girlfriend 196 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: Madison fucking charges in and gets in between because what 197 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: she sees is there's another probably coming around them to 198 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: kind of like rush me and sucker punch me. And uh. 199 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: She then, which, by the way, great move when you've 200 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: outnumbered somebody twenty one is to hide behind your bigger friends, 201 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: go around them, and sucker punch the person that you're 202 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: up against but they didn't know. No one punched you, right, Well, 203 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: so Madison puts her hand on one of the that 204 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: guy that was like gonna, you know, rush me, and 205 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: then that guy fucking shoves her like two hand shoves her. 206 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: And she's a very small woman. You met her. She's 207 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: not a large American. Yeah, no, she is a small woman. 208 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: So they shove her like to the ground, and then 209 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: I lose it. And then one of them fucking takes 210 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: a swing at me and knocks off my glasses. But 211 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, he either tried to slap me or he 212 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: was so drunk that he missed. And then finally, after 213 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: the woman had been shoved, the security stepped in and 214 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: pulled me aside as though I was the one who 215 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: started all of this, uh, when in reality, we had 216 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: been at the bar for about forty five minutes trying 217 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: to get the bar to kick out the Nazis um 218 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: before something just like this happened it um, And so 219 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: at that point, uh, you know, all hell broke loose. 220 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: I may or may not have allegedly, in the scrum, 221 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: grabbed one of the proud boys Maga hats and chucked 222 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: it out into the street. That's assault brother. I mean, look, 223 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: allegedly I may or may not have done that after 224 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: they shoved my girlfriend to the ground and knocked my 225 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: glasses off my face. Oh it's a guy with glasses. Um. 226 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: Glasses are as we know from the Khmer rouge, are 227 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: a sign that you are a dissident who you know, 228 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: Randy trust exactly? Uh so Um at that point, then, um, 229 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: the bar staff is like yelling at me. And that's 230 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: where I like, I clearly I noticed it once Madison 231 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: got pushed over. But that's when that's when it really 232 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: go down. Yeah and yeah, and I could and it 233 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: wasn't clear to me. It seemed like the bar staff 234 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: was yelling. I don't know who they were yelling at, Like, 235 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: it seemed like at times they were yelling at you 236 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: or the other people seemed very So there were two 237 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: dudes and one of them was like the manager, I 238 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: assumed because everybody was like following it. He was like 239 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: a big, tatted up dude who was like visibly drunk 240 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: and like, I don't drink. I just go to bars 241 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: to hang out with friends and make sure Nazis don't 242 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: have fun. Um. And so this drunk sucking asshole is 243 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: like yelling at me. He's like, how am I supposed 244 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: to know their Nazis? And I was like, you could 245 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: have googled it when we told you forty five minutes 246 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: ago before they shoved a woman. They're wearing a uniform. 247 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: They're wearing their Nazi cosplay uniform. And and then he's like, yeah, 248 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: but man, I'm a liberal, I'm from San Francisco. Why 249 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: am I defending them? And that's you see that in 250 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: a video And then I go, I don't know, why 251 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: are you defending? Right? My other favorite moment from the 252 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: video footage of the night was outside, Yes, outside there, 253 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: like the proud boys are still like yelling threatening things. Yeah, 254 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: Irish live, So what what's your point? And uh And 255 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: one of the more you know, angry and you know, 256 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: tough acting gentleman, his mom walks up behind him and 257 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: his like we are going here. So I have no 258 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: confirmation that it's his mom, but that was that was 259 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: some real big mother energy. Yeah, that was that. Yeah. 260 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: It was definitely not uber like, It's not like fam, 261 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: It's like I'm just cancel your shit and go like 262 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: that's like we have to go. I'm watching your kid, right, 263 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: you got drunk, but we have to go. I mean, 264 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: yeah exactly. It's like I'm grandma, but I'm a real 265 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: mom to your son, you know, like uh like and 266 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: that that plays into like the whole thing of like 267 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: mommy taking them home because they're all from Orange County. 268 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: They're all from Semi Valley, Orange County like around then 269 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: because there's just not enough of them here, a lot 270 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: of them outside. We're trying to pull their chest up 271 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: on from East l A or whatever. Like I was 272 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: kinds of ship like that, and I was like, I 273 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: don't feel like the one Mexican dude that was in 274 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: the Proud Boys is uh, I guess a pretty famous 275 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: Proud Boy because he is Mexican, and Gavin mckinnis likes to, 276 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, show him off as his little toy. His 277 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: name is Levi Romero and and uh he um, there's 278 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: a lovely video that surfaced after the incident of him. Um, 279 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: I guess uh somebody from the Orange County Gazette or 280 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: or or some Orange County paper wrote about the Proud Boys, 281 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: and he recorded a video of himself threatening to murder 282 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: that guy and rape his wife. Um. And so you know, 283 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: like these are those these are the people right Like 284 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: they say, oh, we're not Nazis. They say all this 285 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,479 Speaker 1: ship in order to try to engender some sort of sympathy, 286 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: but in reality that's who they really. And then even 287 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: after I know some people are trying to go to 288 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: big foot up the streets, I think kicked out and 289 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: they were like, but they were also harassing like other 290 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: people that I know, calling, you know, using like gay 291 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: slurs and like for whatever reason saying like this is 292 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: Nigeria or some sh it. It was like very They 293 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: were not there to just like have a fun convision 294 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: evening with themselves. They went out to like function up 295 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: and harass people like that's what they do. And I 296 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: want to make a point. They try to hide behind 297 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: the First Amendment a lot and say we have the 298 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: right to peaceably assemble. There's no such thing as a 299 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: peaceable assembly of Nazis. Like literally any action that's done 300 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: to a Nazi. If I would have gone up and 301 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: just sucker punch one of those Nazis, which I'd never 302 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: do because I've got very Jewish bones. But if I 303 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: would have gone up and sucker punched one of those Nazis, uh, 304 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: that would be self defense. Because they're a Nazi, which 305 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: is why it's okay to always punched Nazis. There's a yeah, 306 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: I think they're The response from the bar was like, well, 307 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: we were trying to, you know, kill them with kindness 308 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: and just serve them so they would leave, and that's 309 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: how we've done things in the past or whatever. And 310 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, I a part of me is like, you know, 311 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: they obviously fucked up in not handling the situation properly 312 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: at all at all. Just it was, yeah, a lot 313 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: of chaos and then you know, there's a good reminder though, 314 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: two especially because like living in cities like l A 315 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: very normally very insulated from like that kind of overt 316 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: sort of like in your face kind of provocation. But 317 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: us out here in you know, well, and here's the 318 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: problem with trying to kill Nazis with kindness. What you're 319 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: doing is you are allowing people inside your establishment to 320 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: harass and intimidate oppressed minorities. You are you are by 321 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: being neutral, you are in effect siding with the Nazis. 322 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: You're not resisting that. Yeah, you need to either resist 323 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: the Nazis or get the funk out of my city. 324 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: Like like that's why, like I was like, I'm never 325 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: going to the Griffin again because you know, they their 326 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: their policy of trying to kill Nazis with kindness is 327 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: the most backwards, fucking bullshit thing in the world. Think 328 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: I was from San Francisco, how and and and like 329 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: later on, as you mentioned the Bigfoot Lodge, uh like 330 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: they I'm friends with one of the bartenders there, and 331 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: she texted me, Yeah, the Proud Boys tried to come 332 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: in here and we said, no, it's that fucking easy. 333 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: You know, I've I've a friend who manages a bar 334 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: in l A and, um, they you can be proactive 335 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: about this. First of all, if you're a bar owner 336 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, you should be in touch enough with 337 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: your community to know who the Proud Boys are to 338 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: know who like these groups of neo Nazis are that 339 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: are trying to hang out, especially because they've done it 340 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: couple of times. And um, they also organized online. Because 341 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: there's not enough of them in Los Angeles, they have 342 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: to like reach out to Orange County, Seemi Valley in 343 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: places like this. Um, So my friend got tipped that 344 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: they were trying to come to his bar that he manages, 345 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: and he just sent them a message that was like, hey, 346 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: if you come, you're not going to be let in, 347 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: Like we have the right to refuse service to anybody. 348 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: You're not gonna be let in. And what happened didn't 349 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: come in. And that's that's what that's what the Griffin 350 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: needed to do, is to be in touch or at 351 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: the very least listen to the patrons who are pleading 352 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: with them that these guys are Nazis. Uh and and 353 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: now they're fucking responses like oh, we're gonna put up 354 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: a sign that says no able is um like fuck up? 355 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: Like yeah, they they they've done, They've fucked up. You're 356 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: given a choice in life, and oftentimes you don't know 357 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: when this moment will be and and oftentimes this moment 358 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: happens more than once, or it will only happen once. 359 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: Where you decide do I want to be against the 360 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: forces of evil or do I want to be complicit 361 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: with the forces of evil? And clearly this guy because 362 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: he wanted to be neutral or he wanted to fucking 363 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: make money, which I think is what it was. Just 364 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: let Nazis fucking cavort in his bond. Well, I think 365 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: it's hard to a lot of people it's uncomfortable too, 366 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: because I think most people aren't used to being in 367 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: a position where they have to confront something directly, and 368 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: and a lot of people you could tell it to, 369 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: Like there was a lot of From looking at the 370 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: other patrons in the bar, I saw a lot of 371 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: shook people who were just sort of like, whoa, like, 372 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: is this happening? Like do I say something or whatever 373 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: it's And yeah, it's a that's a lot of people, 374 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: I think, And that's when the moment where a lot 375 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: of people try and sort of logically argue away, Oh, well, 376 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm not being I'm not I'm not complicit because I'm 377 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: doing this for that. But yeah, it's a if you're 378 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: in a position of power, can you control a space 379 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: and there are Nazis in your space? Not kicking out 380 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: hate groups is complicity, and then there's nothing else. And 381 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: that's why the Griffin is overrated. I think we got 382 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: an underrated and a myth all all tied up in there. Alright, 383 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break, we'll be right back, and 384 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: we're back. Um. So the big story of the moment, 385 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: uh is that Trump met with Putin in Helsinki and 386 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: then they made remarks to the media that we're pretty uh, 387 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: some people are calling them treason us. Uh. The front 388 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: page of the Drudge Report, as everybody else, was like, oh, 389 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: he just committed treason. I think the front pages of 390 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: Drudge Report was go with a picture of Trump catching 391 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: a soccer ball that putting through to him. So they 392 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: were just like, nailed it. But not everybody is agreeing 393 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: with them, and even Fox News is uh well psyched about. 394 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean the hottest take, one of the hot takes 395 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: out of there was he was like, well, I believe 396 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: Putin and not the my the intelligence apparatus in this 397 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: United States in terms of describing if there was any meddling, 398 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: what do you say? He's like, he mean, he was 399 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: pretty strong with his defense of his soul. If you 400 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: want to believe him on this one. Yes, it's like 401 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: the third time I think he's he said why I 402 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: asked him and I believe him. Uh, And yes, he 403 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: said he doesn't see why Russia would hack the election, 404 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: and that he wants to see the servers because he 405 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: thinks the intelligence community is well. First of all, he 406 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: thinks he's better at diagnostic like digital forensics than the 407 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: intelligence community's like I gotta I gotta see these for 408 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: myself as a man who eats forty hamburgers every day. 409 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: I think we can agree that Donald Trump is pretty 410 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: good at computers. Um, but yeah, he's just not buying it. 411 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: And he's like he he denied it pretty strongly. And 412 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: this is has always been his things that he trusts 413 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: his gut, he trusts his personal relationships. That's why everybody 414 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: who works for him are his kids and like family. Uh, 415 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: and it's why he thinks that he can just you know, 416 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: be like I looked into his eyes and we're cool. Yeah. Meanwhile, 417 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: putin just big dickt him the whole way. He like 418 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: showed up late with like slouch during the meeting, with 419 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: like his like made his legs wider. I've never seen 420 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: a man spread like that Like that was arrest. It 421 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: was like he had to do like groin stretches before 422 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: his man spread wild. And Trump looked like he was 423 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: about to see the principle. Yeah, and just with his 424 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: hands like this. He I mean again, I think we're 425 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: past the point of being like what does he have 426 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: on him? And just be like, yo, dude, he's not 427 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: willing to hold Russih accountable for a fucking thing. Who cares? Like, Like, 428 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: my my question about all of this is who cares? Like, 429 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: how does this materially affect your life? Well, I guess 430 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't. It will it will affect my life down 431 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: the road. I think as if if more and more 432 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: elections are being meddled in and we get more of 433 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: this right wing kind of Congress stepping in, but the 434 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: elections are being meddled by the right wing of the 435 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: American political parties, like they're like the main So like 436 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: the Russian hacking or whatever, it's arguable how many votes 437 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: that changed, right like, if any there's no proof yet 438 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: that there was like legitimate there's nobody's been like, look 439 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand voting machines. They right, like that nobody 440 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: has done that yet. Um, the right wing is kicking 441 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: people off of voter rules, they're creating voter ideal laws, 442 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: They're they're dismantling the UM Voting Rights Acts and and 443 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: and to me, it's just like I understand that this 444 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: is hilarious. I understand that this is interesting, but like 445 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: the fact that this is on the front page of 446 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: the news all the fucking time. Russia, Russia, Ushia, Russia, Russia. 447 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: It's just it's it's distracting us from what's actually going 448 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: on in this country. And I just can't state how 449 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: little I pay attention to it and how much it 450 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: doesn't affect my life or anybody else's life. Trump will 451 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: never get impeached as long as the Republicans are in power, right, 452 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: The Republicans are going to be in power as long 453 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: as the Democrats don't offer any solutions to poor Americans. 454 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: And so we're just in this weird feedback loop where 455 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: the Democrats are blaming Russia, the Republicans are blaming the Democrats, 456 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: and all the people are just not voting because it 457 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, and they're not being let they're not being 458 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: allowed to vote, or they just don't care because their 459 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: eyes glaze over when they hear fucking One of the 460 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: John's from Pod Save America go, oh yeah, well, this 461 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: guy Struck is a household name now, and they're like, 462 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: who the fuck is Struck? Like no, but you ask 463 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 1: anybody who works for minimum wage who struck is and 464 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: they're like, uh is that a verb? Yeah? Right, No, 465 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: I understand of course when you look at sort of 466 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 1: what the direct threats are to American people, They're not 467 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: coming from Russia. But what is what is important too 468 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: is especially in this upcoming mid terms, if there is 469 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: going to be any kind of fair shot at trying 470 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: to vote some of these Republicans out to try and 471 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: get candidates in which there aren't that many that are 472 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: fully I think on the same platform that I would 473 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: be on. But I think that is that is that 474 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: is the existential threat for me. But if do you 475 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: do you honestly think that Russians are meddling with vote 476 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: outing like ballot boxes, I know that they are, based 477 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 1: on what has been written, that they are trying to 478 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: access as much of that infrastructure as possible right and 479 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: and trying to access right like well in certain cases 480 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: did because I know there are a lot of Secretaries 481 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: of States that for whatever reason, months after we're like 482 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: quietly alerted that like, hey, like hackers access to your 483 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: your system and blah blah blah. Sure, I mean, and 484 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: that's part of just generally trying to assess weaknesses in 485 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: a system exactly. And to me, it's like, okay, well 486 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: we do it, other countries do it. That's that's a 487 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: given there. People try to funk with our elections since 488 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: day one, and I think a lot of it is 489 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: in response to US fucking with their elections. But that's 490 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: neither here nor there. Like, there's always going to be 491 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: a threat of people trying to other countries, trying to 492 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: get what's best for them out of America, right, Like 493 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: so if we say that's a constant, which it is, 494 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, like Israel is getting America to do what 495 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: Israel wants in in so many more outrageous ways than 496 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: Russia is, And yet nobody's talking about the fact that 497 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: Israel is um, you know, exterminating the Palestinians right now 498 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: with our tax dollars. And like there, I would argue 499 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: that Israel is a worse influence on America than Russia 500 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: is as far as like getting what they want out 501 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: of Americans. But we talk about Russia because it's what 502 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: the Democrats used to shift the blame off of their 503 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: horrible strategy during the election, and it's just frustrated. Well, yeah, 504 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: I don't buy the whole thing that Russia is to 505 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: blame for all of this. I'm more interested in like 506 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: understanding and people being aware of the fact that there 507 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: is this bizarre relationship with a country that is so 508 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: anti democratic and now this country is even like is 509 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: now just sort of out in the open showing that 510 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: oh we're joining this wave to and and I mean, 511 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: and I know that the US has been anti democratic 512 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: from Jump Street. What I'm saying is to then be 513 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: like your winking at Putin and Ship and like when 514 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, the homies are Ji jimping and Putin 515 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: and Drew Terday or whoever else, Like, that's when you're like, 516 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: this is this is the direction that they're trying to 517 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: move it into and put Yeah, and when also to 518 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: know that this is a person who executes political opponents 519 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: and journalists or whatever. That's where you're like, it's so 520 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: unclear to the president, like what how everything works? That 521 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: That's where I'm just to me, it's the optics of 522 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: it that are just disheartening. It's not to say, hey, 523 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: Russia is the reason why wages have completely stagnated or whatever. 524 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: That's not the case, but it's it's part of understanding 525 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: the history of this country and like, oh, now we're 526 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: seeing the pendulum swing the completely other way for its 527 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: anti democratic solutions. And now and we're up there front 528 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: page on like we're part of that now. So I 529 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: have a question. I I just thought of something. Is 530 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: there something to this? What if Putin actually has nothing 531 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: on Donald Trump? But Donald Trump just thinks Putin's really cool. 532 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: That's entirely That's also entirely possible. Yeah, he's just jealous. 533 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean he thinks all strong man leaders are cool 534 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: and he yeah, and well that's why these Like the 535 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: thing that he wants most in the world is to 536 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: be able to execute journalists and to have people people 537 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: opponents rested like Vanity Fair would make him so solitary. 538 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: Grating Carter, you are shorts to to roots Chris Steakhouse 539 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: in Miami Beach, and for that crime you will be executed. Yeah. 540 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: I will say for people who are interested in finding 541 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: out more about how Israel is fucking with the Palestinians 542 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: using US tax dollars. Uh. Somebody who is talking about 543 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: that is superproducer on a Hosni on her podcast Ethnically 544 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: Ambiguous almost weekly, So you guys should check that show out. 545 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: I think the two interesting things about the like what 546 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: we're seeing now is basically that there is like it 547 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: started with them dropping the twelve and DiPT ments on 548 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: Russian intelligence agents at the end of last week because 549 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: they knew he was about to meet with Putin and 550 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: wanted to force his hand. And now there's just like 551 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: an open antagonism between the president and the intelligence community. 552 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: And I just think, I don't know that we've never 553 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: seen that before. It'll be interesting to see what happens 554 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: from here. And it's also forcing people on the right, 555 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: I think even too. And and this is very early stages. 556 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: And I think they, you know, in the aftermath of 557 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: the Access Hollywood tape and ship like that, they were like, well, 558 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: I can't support this guy. And then eventually, like once 559 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: people got over there, families apart, like, I mean, do 560 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: it we have they got these tax cuts? Yeah, exactly. 561 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: This is like Neil Cavudo on Fox, who even, I 562 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: guess this is the thing to like you said, Jack, 563 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: there are optics things to consider, but this is the 564 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: first time you see more and more like there's like 565 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: part of this old like Russia hawk conservativism where people 566 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: are like right with everything, but like yo, like we're 567 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: trying to communist, like what's going on? So this is 568 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: Cavudo on Trump's performance at the press conference. That's what 569 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: made it disgusting that's what made his performance disgusting. I'm sorry, 570 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: it's the only way I feel. It's not a right 571 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: or left thing. To me, this is wrong. A U S. 572 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: President on for and so all talking to our biggest 573 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: enemy or adversary or competitor, I don't know how we 574 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: define them these days is essentially letting the guy get 575 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: away with this and not even you know, offering a 576 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: mild a mild criticism that that that that that sets 577 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: us back a lot. Why is Russia our biggest enemy 578 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: in terms of just trying to become like that guy 579 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: just said Neil Cavua just was like, Russia's our biggest enemy, 580 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: said democratic and and they they're trying to destabilize, like 581 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, they want to break up the Western Alliance 582 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: and become the real power broker on that continent. I mean, 583 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: do you think that date other countries? And you know, 584 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: but like more so than like what the Sadi are 585 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: doing to the Yemeni what you know, like horrible countries 586 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: in you know, like okay, so what the Saudis are 587 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: doing like is to me, I would say Saudi Arabia 588 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: as America's biggest enemy based on the fact that they're 589 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: going through like one of the biggest genocides right now, 590 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: and we're like kind of helping them. And by kind of, 591 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: I mean a lot, and by a lot, I mean 592 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: Obama started it. But like to me, like Russia just 593 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: seems like, you know how like in the in the 594 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: Spy movie, there's the red Herring who's like the really 595 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: loud guy that's like, yes, you think that one's the villain, 596 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: but then it was the quiet one that was inside 597 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 1: the whole time, you know, Like I feel like, like, well, 598 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: the benefit is that the Saudi's guide early enough that 599 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 1: we're like, okay, so we like doing business with you. 600 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 1: So they're like, I mean that's the I mean, obviously 601 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: the US has so many problematic relationships with other countries 602 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: Saudi's like maybe did nine eleven, you know what I mean, 603 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: Like if we're talking about like real enemies of America, 604 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: like it just seems so weird to just be like, well, 605 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: obviously Russia number one enemy. I think just in this instance, 606 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: because well, I think his thing his quote staying a 607 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: little bit out of context, because what they're saying is 608 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: he had he had the opportunity to speak to Putin 609 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: and say, Yo, what what the funk is going on. 610 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: All the intelligence people are saying the g r U 611 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: is behind all this massive, uh sort of attempt to 612 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: completely undermine the election, whether that was through hacking the 613 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: d n C and and disseminating that information or trying 614 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: to get into system Secretary of States sort of voting 615 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: systems and things like that. That that was an opportunity 616 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: as the leader of the country to say, yo, was 617 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: good about that, and it didn't happen. So like that, 618 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: I think in this I don't know if this guy 619 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: generally views I mean, it could be just for the 620 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: sake of preserving, you know, America's appearance of like, well, 621 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: let's not talk about that because the rest is the 622 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: real utomy, because it serves us to distract people from 623 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: that too. But I think the more I think the 624 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: thing was coming off of what he was talking about 625 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: was the idea of like, you know this, you're the president. 626 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: You don't even have anything to say to this guy, 627 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: like and that's what's just sort of eerie, is that you're, 628 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, as the leader, you're just letting all this 629 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: ship happen and you're just kind of like, what do 630 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: you think he did say two to Putin we had 631 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 1: a two hour meeting. It was I don't know. So 632 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: it's is Natasha and boris coming. I want to meet 633 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: that that moose I love. I love moose is I. 634 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: I have a fabulous moose mar Lago. It's a chocolate moose. 635 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: It's great. Natasha bad enough, Um, I don't Natasha take 636 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: your bra off? If you know what I mean. It's 637 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: just locker room top. It could be like them put 638 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: being like yo, like now we know how to funk 639 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: with those like voter systems or whatever. I mean. Also too, 640 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: when you see me, are you sure? It's like do 641 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: you know how do cocaine on jet Ski? Yeah? Or 642 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: it's like it's like I want to talk about Syria, 643 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: and then Trump's like I don't care, I don't care. 644 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: Show me that show my friend you watch Syria Heria? 645 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: Therea who cares? That's a watch? I mean. Putin does 646 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: his research on people like to the he's a kgb SP. 647 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: He knows what you're upbringing, was what your psychological like 648 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: weaknesses and strengths are going into a meeting, So like 649 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm sure nothing caught him off guard. Like 650 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: if if Trump wanted to talk about watches. I'm sure 651 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: he knew that before Trump knew that. I don't know 652 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: or they or Trump or Putin had set the agenda 653 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: and Trump was just there to go huh. Or Trump 654 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: was just like I could you only imagine, like like imagine, 655 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: like you know, we've we've set up Puttin to be 656 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: this like mastermind, even though he's also going through dementia 657 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: like Trump is, like there's like it's kind of proven that, 658 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: like both of their brains are dying, um and like, 659 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: but I'd love to imagine like the hypothetical mastermind who's 660 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: like practiced everything on Trump and and then he's like, Okay, 661 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: I know he's going to talk like this and it's 662 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: going to see these. I know he's going to see these. 663 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: And then all he talks about is like Tracy Bingham 664 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: from Baywatch. He's like, so, ever since I've been in Russia, 665 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: I've noticed there's a lot of sevens here. You know, 666 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: there's more sixes in d C. Let me tell you 667 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: there's only sevens in eight CRE. I haven't seen a 668 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: single ten. Like that's like what he would say. All right, 669 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: so let's talk about the latest trend that is apparently 670 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: not the latest trend that's been happening forever, but I 671 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: think we reached a new level, at least as I'm 672 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: aware of, in white people calling the police on people 673 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: of color. We have a a guy in a l 674 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: a fitness in Virginia who got screened in a pickup 675 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: basketball game, fell to the ground like in dramatic World 676 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: Cup player fashion, like he had just stepped on a mine, 677 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: and then immediately walked to the front desk said he 678 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: was calling the police, and did call the police, and 679 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: then just waited patiently for the police to come, and 680 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: then said, I got screened hard and I want you 681 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: to do so tell me. The cops come and go, okay, 682 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: so you're the one who was calling for us. He's 683 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: like yes, and he'll say the police officers say okay, 684 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: so what happened and what do you and what do 685 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: you think? He said to the police officers, He assaulted me, 686 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: I think happily how he put it. And then and 687 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: then the guys like which one. He's like this black guy, right, 688 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: and then what happens like I just put a pick 689 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: on you know what I mean? And he ran into 690 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: it because that is basketball. Why would a human being 691 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: called the on this. It's staggering. Wait what is did 692 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: he say like he threw an elbow and like broke 693 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: my chest out mar Fan syndrome of a chest wall, 694 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: like putting me at risk? Like what is the what 695 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: is the how do we take this beyond like logically 696 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: that it was anything more than you got your in 697 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: your feelings because you probably ran into the screen, but 698 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't first maybe you complain to management, Hey, that guy's 699 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: playing a little too rough on the court right as 700 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: opposed to you know, you know what, I gotta call 701 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: the authorities. That's my question is are they seeing these 702 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: videos going viral and thinking that we're proud of like 703 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: the white people who are calling the cops. They're like, see, 704 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: we can apparently call the cops on this. This is 705 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: because they are the heroes of Rudge being like brave 706 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: man of Virginia Jim ends the scourge of blindside picks, Like, 707 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, that's not that's not what it is. It's 708 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: just we live in an era now where people have 709 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: access to video cameras on their cell phones. They can 710 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: document things and spread that information much quicker because of 711 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: social media. That would just be more and I think 712 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: so what's happening all along. I mean, there's no shortage 713 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: of people from my dad as a child to me 714 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: even in my teen years of having experiences with police 715 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: that were unnecessary because people being at a park see 716 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: you through a window and they're like, there's people of 717 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: color at the park at night, and then they pull 718 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: up and they're like, what's going on. You're like, we're 719 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: playing basketball and they're like, all right, well someone called 720 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: the cops and they thought you were doing something, and 721 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 1: that's nothing new. So I think now it's just people 722 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 1: are saying for whatever, getting even more bold, so they're 723 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: they're willing to be I mean, because really what they're 724 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: doing is they're treating you know, the police as customer 725 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: service for their waning white privilege, you know what I mean, Like, 726 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: excuse me, I would like to, uh, the only people 727 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: that can sort this out is the police because you 728 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: have the guns and you can you can put your 729 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: foot down on this. And then most of the time 730 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: when they come up, it's incident free and other times 731 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: it can be fucking fatal. So to me, it's like 732 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: it's nothing new. We're just seeing it more and it's 733 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: being documented more, and I think there could be maybe 734 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: a slight uptick, but this is not a new experience 735 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: for you know, you know, like getting hold over because 736 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: you're black, and maybe there's yeah, there's this new element 737 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: of now you know, we're seeing people just calling the 738 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: police for any old reason, like even in Canada now 739 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: and I read a story about a black family begetting 740 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: the police called on them because they were at the pool, 741 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: or a Muslim family because they were wearing cotton at 742 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: the pool. I'm still not sure what exactly their grievance 743 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: was with that, aside from probably the kids. I think 744 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: one of the kids may have had he job on 745 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: or something like that. So it ain't none new, right, 746 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: How do you what was the fall out here? What 747 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: what did the police do when they the police showed up? 748 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 1: The athlete who like screened him was asked to step 749 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: outside of the gym and the cop talk to them. 750 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: And this is the photograph you see of it where 751 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: the cop is standing between them and it's like a 752 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: preschool like you know, rivalry, where the teacher is just 753 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: talking to them, telling them how you handle your feelings. 754 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: And the guy who called the cops is standing on 755 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: the other side of the cop with his arms crossed, 756 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: like ha ha, now I got you man, and everybody 757 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: was just like this is blown away. Yeah. I mean 758 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: anyone who grows up playing pick up basketball, you know, 759 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: there's always like that friend who everything is a foul 760 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: and like, oh, that's a foul. That's reached it. That's 761 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: a foul. Man, you blocked me, that's a foul because 762 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 1: it's my ego, that's you fouled. But like, I don't 763 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: know what happened to this guy that he didn't get 764 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: the you know, the constant foul calling shamed out of 765 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: him by playing basketball enough. It's a five foot four 766 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: and a half man. I would spend a lot of 767 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: time on the bench at the pickoff basketball games. Should 768 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: I have called the authorities? Yea, I have not been picked. 769 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: I ever been picked. I think it's a racism. They're like, 770 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: these guys are all white too. I don't know, I 771 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: don't know. I just the ancestry test. Now we should 772 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: look deeper. Yeah, but yeah, it's just a I mean, 773 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: at some point, I think I think obviously the conversation 774 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: now is shifting towards what is the proper protocol for 775 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: police officers who handle these kind of situations. When they're 776 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: unnecessarily brought into intervene on behalf of people who are 777 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: just have some kind of implicit bias, uh, because like 778 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, there are people who remember there was a 779 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: story about the group of black women playing golf and 780 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: the owner of the country club called the police because 781 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: they're playing too slow. Insanity, you know what I mean. 782 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,720 Speaker 1: And that's when the police have to be like, I'm sorry, 783 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: this is not a priority for us as police, Like 784 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: we're here to stop like real crime. And if I'm 785 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: out here trying to mediate you because you don't like 786 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 1: the speed at which when we're playing golf and something 787 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: happens and I'm here, then then we have problems. But 788 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if because you know, the nine one 789 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: one can't be I'm sorry, that's not heavy enough that 790 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: just because then you get into a slippery slope of 791 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: like being because what if something does happen a sudden 792 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 1: there's violence, one person said, right, And I think that's 793 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: where maybe the police have to begin having to mediate 794 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: these in a way that they're like, so let me 795 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 1: tell you how I'm seeing this, law enforcement. You have 796 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: no standing. You look like this feels like harassment to 797 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: me or whatever, and I don't know how they're going 798 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: to begin. There should be some like official form of 799 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: harassment or something like a fine at the very least 800 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: to like like when you waste the police goes off 801 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: to my house. I'm sorry interrupted you, but I was 802 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: just adding to what you said. When my alarm accidentally 803 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: goes off and they can't contact my wife or IY, 804 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: the cops show up and it's like, oh, nothing happened here. 805 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: I get a hundred and fifty fine. Yeah, so that 806 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: should happen here if you're wasting time on the green 807 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: saying those ladies are too slow, let's go. Yeah. The 808 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 1: other thing is I mean, because there are flaws about 809 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: like calling nine one falsely or whatever like unnecessarily, but 810 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: those are rarely enforced. I mean, I think the permit 811 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: thing is because their alarm thing is because that they 812 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: think they're responding to. Yeah, but I think that's where 813 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 1: you know, these police associations or you know, community groups 814 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: or whatever need to really figure out, or you know, 815 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: or just people don't realize, you know, people of color 816 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: are not a threat to you. I'm sorry that we're 817 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: out here trying to exist too, but I'm not I'm 818 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: not at the pool being like how much turn this 819 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: place into all black and y'all don't have to wear 820 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: koofies and start celebrating Kuanza And I mean, like it's 821 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: not like that, So come on, just let's live alright, guys, 822 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna take another quick break. We'll be right back, 823 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: and we're back. While as you were saying that you're 824 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: hearing in your intel communities that you see in cell communities, 825 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: oh you oh no, no, no, I have no connection 826 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: to them. Okay, I mean, you know, just based on 827 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: Twitter and reading different think pieces from diplomats or people 828 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: inside and outside of intelligence, there have been a lot 829 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: of people talking like I can't say name names, but 830 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: this is a diplomat who's serving right now, and like 831 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: the quote is like crazy, Like dude, I don't know 832 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: what the fox's wrong with trump Man, Like either he's 833 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: totally Underputent's thumb or he's pussy and you're like whoa, 834 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: Like this is how this guy is talking. And no, 835 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: because right now a lot of these people are like 836 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: looking at like yo, this guy is really really trying 837 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: to fucking fun the game up with with his leadership. Um, 838 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: and now now we're seeing like you know, it's clear 839 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: that the intelligence community has clearly had their eye on 840 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: this thing for a while and they have not been 841 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: able to say anything because they're just there to provide 842 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: the executive or the government at large with the information 843 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: this is what we know, and do what you need 844 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: to do, because that's what our job is. But now 845 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: it seems like they're trying to really wave their hands 846 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: and be like no, no, no, hold on, you guys 847 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: need to start seeing what we know. For example, like 848 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 1: Dan Coates, D and I Dan Coates, he had an 849 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: interview with Andrew Mitchell yesterday at the Aspen Security Conference, 850 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: and he was out here with his chest out, like 851 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 1: not really giving a funk about what the president would think. 852 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: Throughout the interview, Andrew mitchells asking him, like about the 853 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 1: Helsinki thing and how he handled that, and he was 854 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: just like, I wouldn't have done it differently, you know, 855 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: just openly sort of questioning the president because he's the 856 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: Director of National Intelligence. And then you can really tell 857 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: like he did a fucking like literal double take when 858 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: the news broke that the White House was going to 859 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: invite Putin to d C in the fall. This is 860 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: a clip from that moment, we have some breaking news. 861 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: The White House has announced on Twitter that Vladimir Putin 862 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: is coming to the White House in the fall. Vladimir Putin, Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, 863 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 1: I heard about this. But that's going to be special. 864 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: That's going to be That's the fucking acting Director of 865 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,919 Speaker 1: National Intelligence, right, He's just like this fucking guy, yeah, 866 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: and they can't believe it. And I mean, luckily for him, 867 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: he's a solid like he's a full on Republican. You 868 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 1: cannot question his like Republican credentials. He's like Jim mad 869 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: like the whole gang is right. But I mean, like 870 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 1: in terms of criticism from the White House to be 871 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: like this guy's a hack or whatever, like, dude, this 872 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: guy isn't and like Jim Maddest rides for him there. 873 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: To Dave's point, that's exactly what we were saying about Mueller. 874 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 1: When they were like, well they're bringing Mueller. Everyone was like, 875 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: and this guy's unimpeachable. He's like the biggest Republican nobody's 876 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: ever gonna question. I guess more in terms of like 877 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 1: it'll be harder for him to fire Dan Coates because 878 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: he also has a lot of support, like within the 879 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: cabinet already to like he's from Indiana, He's like Mike 880 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: Pence really likes him anyway. But I know, but to 881 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 1: that point, of course, anyone who begins speaking the truth 882 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: to power will immediately be painted with your hack or 883 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: what this whole thing I mean. I've been trying to 884 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: really comprehend the level of devotion. I think a lot 885 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: of people. If you're Spurs fan, people love Greg Popovich, 886 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: then he has one you championships meant something to you 887 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 1: specifically in your life. And then when he starts talking 888 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: to the president, some people in San Antonio, that guy 889 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: I never really liked him, never really care George Clooney 890 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: people like that. You think, like, oh, people know them. 891 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: They're just as ubiquitous. People turn to hate those movies. 892 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: It's have you seen Icarus? And then did you see 893 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: the Trump documentary series on Netflix? Like four parts? I 894 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 1: started watching it. I didn't get through all the whole thing, though, 895 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: if you know his whole life, and it's probably not 896 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: that interesting, but I was pretty unfamiliar with his life 897 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: in the eighties in New York and Roy Kane and 898 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: suing the city and all this, and it's bananas it's 899 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: such a great glimpse into like exactly how he's operating 900 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: currently because you kind of see him be birthed into 901 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: this thing that he is now. Originally has different teeth, 902 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: he's obviously younger, but he's talking about Citizen Kane and 903 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: he's kind of eloquent and he's weirdly like endearing, where 904 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,839 Speaker 1: he's painting this picture of a guy who's you can't 905 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: trust people because of money and kind of how do 906 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 1: you know what true love is? He's like, I can 907 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: relate to that. And then you just see this twist 908 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: where like when he first starts cheating on Ivana and 909 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: the press knows about it and they know he's cheating 910 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: on her with Marlo Maples and he's just like, oh, 911 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 1: it's crazy. And that's when he invents characters that he's 912 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: calling in and be like it's start recording, like this 913 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 1: can't be real, and he's just lies. I mean, they're 914 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: on ski trips where legitimately takes the family to like Aspen, 915 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: and Marla has a hotel across the street. It's fucking crazy, 916 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 1: and people he just keeps lying like no, no, no no, 917 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: she's just a friend. She I don't know why she's here, 918 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 1: she's after me, they're married. The biggest one is the 919 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: taj Mahal, Like it's all the analysts are like, hey, dude, 920 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: this is nothing personal, but we've run the numbers a 921 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: bunch of times. This can't sustain itself. It's great, it's 922 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: fake news, you're idiots, You're a bunch of more. And 923 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 1: they're like, and then right up until the end until 924 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 1: it went bankrupt, he just I think he's going great, 925 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,760 Speaker 1: We're making tons of money. So those two things, Nicaris 926 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: and that to me or like, everyone should see that 927 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: just to get a good sense of oh, that's what 928 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 1: we're dealing. Yeah, this is a group who knows how 929 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: to work this way. Here's a person who only knows 930 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: how to operate in this sense. Put it together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 931 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: And I just think that people are Trump supporters first, 932 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: an American second. At the point I think, yeah, I mean, 933 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: another example of what you were talking about with the 934 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: Papovich thing is when de Niro said fuck Trump at 935 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: the Tonys. There are all these great videos of like 936 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 1: dudes from New York or like Bobby fucking loved you 937 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: in like Good Fellows, the greatest film of all time. 938 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 1: I modeled my life after you go funk yourself picture. 939 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: I've had this good Fellows posters since i was in 940 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: fucking community college. Bro. Yeah, I'm fucking tortunate. Yeah. And 941 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 1: then also to just sort of go along with the 942 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: intelligence community kind of doing their own thing. After when 943 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: he denied that he well, when he said full through, 944 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I believe Putin over the intelligence community. 945 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 1: They then leaked information essentially to The New York Times 946 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: saying this motherfucker knew it was Putin since like before 947 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 1: he even came into office. We had top secret briefings 948 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: with him. We showed him fucking emails, texts showing that 949 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: these orders came from the fucking top and he can't 950 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: act like he didn't know. We put the ship in 951 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: front of his face and said, this is what the 952 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: fuck is going on, And a lot of people were like, WHOA, 953 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: that's new, Like for you to suddenly be like, oh, 954 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: he knew, like and clearly coming from the intelligence community, 955 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: like like dead that to be burned a source they 956 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: like that information is based on a source close to Putint. 957 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,280 Speaker 1: So the fucking intelligence community had a source close to Putin, 958 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: and we're willing to like burn that, and a lot 959 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: of people were saying, well, like, oh my god, you 960 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: just put that source in jeopardy and that. But that's 961 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: the thing there. I think nine people died mysteriously since 962 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: the Steel dossier came out that had connected to the 963 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,760 Speaker 1: Russian government, a lot of quote unquote heart attack falling 964 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: out of buildings accidentally. Yeah, and that's what they're saying, Like, 965 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: I think the reason that the intel community even leaked 966 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: it was they probably suspect because we already know Michael 967 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: Flynn and Jared Kushner were trying to talk to the 968 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 1: Russians the whole time that that source was probably burned 969 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,320 Speaker 1: a long time ago, which is why they're like fuck it, 970 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 1: Like it's not like we're putting this person in jeopardy again. 971 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,240 Speaker 1: But it just shows you there's there's clearly a group 972 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 1: of people who, like you can maybe call actual patriots, 973 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 1: who are looking at the information before them that their 974 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 1: expertise is intelligence and counter intelligence and being like, yo, 975 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: how long till you guys like do something about But 976 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: it didn't. There was I think, I want to say 977 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: South Dakota Republican congressman that goes I think he was 978 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: playing him. He was showing the upper hand. He was 979 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 1: going out there saying I know, and you know that 980 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: I know, but if you want to keep playing this game, 981 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: go ahead, but I'm gonna hold you to it. And 982 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: then the press, like in this week, becaues, is that 983 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,320 Speaker 1: what you think? And he goes, that's the only logical 984 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: conclusion I can come to. Like, so they're just doing 985 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 1: these mental gymnastics like Trump's a genius and he's working people. Definitely, 986 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: it's this whole thing of of being confronted with truth 987 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: and the second that that doesn't gibe well with your 988 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: like skewed worldview, then you have to find the next 989 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: available life raft off of that thing too, because this 990 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: one's sinking. Um And yeah, I just don't know. It 991 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: seems like the hell Sinki things clearly a red line 992 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: for like a lot of ships changed. I think we 993 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,359 Speaker 1: all do it in the smallest ways. You know, your 994 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: team loses a pivotal game mid season. Say you're watching 995 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,479 Speaker 1: football and you're like, they run the table from here. 996 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: They do it with their third string quarterback. It's been 997 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 1: done before, and people, you're crazy, just just move on, 998 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 1: picked up, watch something else. No, no, no, And they 999 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: lose the next game, they're mathematically eliminated. Yeah, but I 1000 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 1: think you just I get all the bright part emails, 1001 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 1: like the daily like recap of what's going on, and 1002 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: they had a recap that Russi. Limbough is now saying 1003 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,320 Speaker 1: that this is how Democrats are going to do away 1004 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: with elections. So by using the Russia story just to 1005 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: cast doubt on the outcome of elections, the Democrats are 1006 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 1: going to take over and never let Republicans win an 1007 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: election again. So like that's the direct Like that's how 1008 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 1: they far how far they can go in a different 1009 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: direction and interpreting something that seems fairly straightforward to us. 1010 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 1: What we want to talk about is important stuff like 1011 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 1: that Michael Jackson was chemically castrated and I called it 1012 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: seven years ago, so you called it seven years ago, 1013 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: so we did uncracked. I've never heard somebody celebrate someone's 1014 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: chemical castration like that. Oh yeah, well so yeah, oh yeah, 1015 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 1: a little watch a little that shows lousy with castration. 1016 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: Lousy with castration. It's not done chemically. I don't think 1017 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: the technology so horrifying. Conspiracy theory that we wrote about 1018 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 1: in an article by Christie Harrison Adam Todd Brown on 1019 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: cracked back in two thousand eleven, but it like made 1020 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 1: too much sense. I don't know, I felt like it 1021 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: was probably true at the time, and now we're getting 1022 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: confirmation from his doctor. Uh. The idea is basically that 1023 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 1: when Michael Jackson as a twelve year old, started showing 1024 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: signs of puberty, started getting acne and his voice started changing. 1025 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: You know, we didn't know at the time who was 1026 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: kind of making this happen, but apparently his dad encouraged 1027 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: him to take this thing called sepritarn that is basically 1028 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: an anti male horn. Mom. Uh, knocks the man right 1029 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,320 Speaker 1: out of you, as it was written in the article. 1030 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 1: But no, no, no, it basically blocks puberty, so you 1031 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: just never go out of puberty. Um. And it makes 1032 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 1: sense given that you know it affects your bone growth 1033 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,799 Speaker 1: and that looking at what Michael Jackson ended up looking like, 1034 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: and also just the fact that like this isn't invented 1035 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 1: by this conspiracy theory. This is the thing that they 1036 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: did throughout history to men who sang soprano. Until eighteen seventy, 1037 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: this was a common practice. The people were called castrati 1038 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: and they were just literally castrated in order to maintain 1039 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: their singing voices. Um, so yeah. Anyway, so what the 1040 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 1: theory was based off the article cracked is that the 1041 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 1: theory was he was being chemically castrated. Yes, interesting, And 1042 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 1: was that based off of just like how's this man's 1043 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: ways like this forever or there was like a moment 1044 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 1: that they saw. I think there was a doctor who 1045 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: had put the theory forward based on appearance and based 1046 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 1: on all the problems he was having. And Christie I 1047 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,800 Speaker 1: think dug that up in a in a book about 1048 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,879 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, and it just seems like, I don't know, 1049 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 1: it made too much sense. And also like mentally, if 1050 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 1: you never go through puberty, uh, like if you want 1051 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 1: to hang out with a bunch of kids, it would 1052 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: stand the reason that like you would turn your house 1053 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: into an amusement park and like just still be interested 1054 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 1: in things. And even on top of that, never got 1055 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 1: to experience a childhood has even when you were even 1056 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: before if you were to you, like, I gotta imagine that, 1057 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 1: like what a horrible prison to be a child forever 1058 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: but never experienced childhood? Right? That sounds like the worst 1059 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: thing you could do to say, And who was this 1060 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: the Michael Jackson's doctor. So Michael Jackson's doctor, Vladimir Putin, 1061 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,800 Speaker 1: who is currently serving time for manslaughter, because he was 1062 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: the guy who gave him the drugs. But he was 1063 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 1: in the position to give him the drugs because he 1064 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 1: was like his most trusted, you know, medical advocate, and 1065 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: like basically his entire job was being Michael Jackson's doctor, 1066 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,959 Speaker 1: and he like traveled with him and you know, gave 1067 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 1: him the drugs that ended up killing him. Uh. He 1068 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: said that, you know, among the people. I think we're 1069 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 1: asking him about it. It's coming out now, I think 1070 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: because Joe Jackson passed away. Uh the reference. He was like, yeah, 1071 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 1: the abuse that Michael underwent when he was a kid 1072 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 1: is just terrible. And he was like, I mean, and 1073 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: the chemical castration thing is just confided in him. It 1074 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,919 Speaker 1: seems like that's what he's saying. And also just as 1075 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 1: his doctor, I guess you would know that sort of thing. 1076 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 1: I know, my doctor asked me that every time I 1077 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 1: go in, right, chemical yeah shack, yeah not yet. All right, 1078 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this week's Weekly Zeitgeist. Please 1079 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,919 Speaker 1: like and review the show. If you like the show, 1080 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: uh means the world of Miles. He needs your validation. Folks, 1081 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will 1082 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By