WEBVTT - Rhys Hoskins Returns 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:15.880 Hi, this is Chase Utley and this is the Phillies Show. Hi, everybody, 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.440 Welcome to The Philly Show with Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury. 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.880 I'm todd so lucky. It is Monday, June third, twenty 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:27.200 twenty four. The Phillies take two of three from the 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:30.120 Cardinals this weekend at Citizens Bank Park. They lose the 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:34.640 series finale Sunday Night Tough One in ten innings. A 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.560 lot of things happened. The biggest thing that happened, for 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:41.560 sure was Brandon Marsh pulling up grabbing the back of 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.920 his right hamstring. No immediate word on the injury, but 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.839 it did not look good. Rob Thompson walked straight out 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.600 to second base and he told reporters afterwards I could 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:55.200 tell by the look in his face he was in pain, 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.120 so immediately called for the pinch runner. Rob said afterwards 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.160 about right now, right now. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:02.040 He is day to day. 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:07.520 But based off the way Marsh grabbed his leg does 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.640 not look very good. 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.920 Yeah it doesn't. I mean, look, the way teams and 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.920 athletes now are so cautious with injuries, I think we 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:26.319 can reasonably speculate that this is looking like an il stint. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:30.600 The way he you know, it happened so suddenly and acutely, 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.000 and the way he hobbled off and legs are an 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:35.560 important part of his game, and you got to think 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.920 they'll protect him. And obviously no official word yet, but 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.120 it wouldn't surprise me at all to see some Iel 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:46.120 time similar injury to Trey Turner, and you got to 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:50.520 knock those things out because otherwise they they linger all year. 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:54.080 It was a weekend series that left I'm getting greedy, 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.120 I know, but it left me wanting more. Even though 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.559 the Cardinals came in pretty hot team they won twelve 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.400 or fifteen, and the Phillies get out and win two 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.720 games right out of the gate. They look great, and 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.799 Taiwan Walker just the so so start, gave up those 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.600 two run two two run home runs, didn't pitch deep 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:15.080 into the game and starting pitching dictates everything, and it 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.280 just felt like, you know, they weren't going to overcome 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.200 it on Sunday night, and they did not. But the 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:25.160 Marsh injury is significant. You need all your pieces. I mean, 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.280 we've talked about it at nauseum, but this is a 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:28.920 team that's. 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:29.720 Going to play in the playoffs. 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.840 We know that barring something crazy and that crazy thing 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.560 would be a rash of injuries. So you need just 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.640 keep this team healthy. They seem to have skirted something 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:44.000 with Ranger Suarez on that comebacker, but marsh Turner, they've 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.680 done a great job playing over that injury, mostly because 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.840 of Sosa. Now they're gonna have to play over something else. 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:51.600 Not sure what they're going to do out there in 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.920 the outfield, but we've talked a ton about it. Needing 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.320 more production out there. Somebody like Merryfield. This could be 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.440 an opportunity for him to get more at bats, maybe 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.040 get him gone one he needs to get going. Clemens 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:03.960 could be in the picture, Pache will be in the 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:08.239 picture more. I'm sure I'm missing some some David dall 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.359 Is swinging it at Triple A. Maybe it's time to 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:14.000 take a look at him. So, you know, it's it's 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:18.359 an ever evolving season and injuries are something that a 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:22.000 front office always has to be aware of. And that's 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:23.919 where your depth. You know, we talked about depth and 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.480 starting pitching a lot in the last podcast. Depth on 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.240 your roster is vital. So yeah, we're gonna learn more 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.839 about this today. You hope it's not real long term, 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:35.240 but I think they're gonna have probably have to make 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:36.160 some adjustments here. 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:39.760 I mean, obviously you don't want to lose any of 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.800 your key players, and he certainly is one of them. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:44.680 Unless it was a cramp. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.880 I don't think there's any question that this guy's gonna 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.560 go on the I l they're gonna be as cautious 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.400 as they were with Trade Turner and continue to be 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:55.480 with Trade Turner that you can be sure that they'll 0:03:55.520 --> 0:04:00.600 be really cautious with Marsha as well. Big loss for 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.440 them just because of what he brings to the table, 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.800 not just on the field, but off the field as well. 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.320 He's just like having those guys on the field as 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.080 simple as that. They do have a cushion. They do 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.360 have some depth in there on their club, Jim, you 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.039 mentioned it, it would be interesting to see who they 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:18.560 go to. 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.240 I obviously Dolls had experience, but Weston Wilson's a. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:26.159 Guy that they really liked and he has performed for 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.960 them when they you know, and I talk about this 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.920 all the time, you make your impressions in spring training 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.280 and regardless of how that guy is, you know, particularly 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.600 playing at the time in Triple A, because there's a 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.039 lot of different factors that are associated with playing in 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.880 Triple A. Once you're back down, it's a mental thing, 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:47.240 it's an emotional thing. You know, sometimes you don't play 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.160 to your peak ability. I've been there, I've done it. 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.360 I've I've gone down to Triple A and had the 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.760 woe's mees where you know, you just don't play to 0:04:56.160 --> 0:05:01.320 the level of what your particularly what you you know, 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:05.240 be accustomed to playing, and so it's hard for you 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.320 to mentally get up for every single game. 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:08.840 You're in Triple A and you're not in the big 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:10.240 leagues where you think you should be. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.640 That said, it will be interestingly who they go to 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.599 as far as, you know, creating some more depth. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:19.480 I do think. 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.680 I mean Cody Clemens is gonna play. I mean they 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.039 threw Cody Clemens out there and left field in the 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:30.640 cores field, and I mean it was a little precarious. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.160 He made another play, he made his place wasn't pretty, 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:35.920 But they're going to toss him out there, especially if 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:37.800 they're playing a siss Bank Park. It's not like a 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:41.480 really super challenging place to play left field necessarily as 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:42.880 far as covering ground. 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.719 So I think Cody's gonna get an opportunity. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:50.960 First, especially against the right handers. That's my guess, could 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.440 be wrong. Gladly I'm not the manager. I let topp 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:58.640 or take care of that. But but again, I mean, 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.920 it's it's about being costs with them because it's one 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.359 of those injuries again that you do not want to have. 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.640 Linger that said, I am surprised to see all these 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.680 soft tissue injuries like come on in this day and 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:15.120 age when guys in they're monitored, their their intakes are monitored, 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:19.080 they have these strap on things that monitor everything about them. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.239 They whether they have enough electrolytes and all this other stuff. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.040 I'm just surprised in this day and age when they 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:29.159 talk about being hydrated and take care. Why this is happening. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.680 It's happened a lot. I mean, you got I think 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:35.280 Blake Snell went on a g on the aisle. Are 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.120 going to go on an aisle with a growing injury. 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.600 There's guys with like hamstrings and quads, and in this 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.960 day and age, it just doesn't seem like this is 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:44.760 the kind of sid I know, it gets humid during 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.240 the game and things can happen, but it just doesn't 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:49.840 make sense for these things to. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:54.200 Be happening with the regularity. They're happening at the major 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:54.800 league level. 0:06:55.200 --> 0:07:00.360 So guys are guys are eating way too healthy? Need 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.400 you need I'm serious about this. I need to mix in. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.760 You need to mix in an occasional cheeseburger. I'm talking 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:06.800 about like one a week, one every two weeks maybe, 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.840 uh and and I think that would no, I'm serious. 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.160 I just think you get a little soft when you 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.400 eat a soft diet now now and now and then 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.440 you need to you know, you need to mix in 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.160 a good burger, a big, drippy burger. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.520 Nice and you know what, And you can't. You can't 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.360 pull fat, right, You can't pull fat if it's too muscular. 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.120 I mean, you just can't, you know. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:31.040 I actually, I actually was in a clubhouse probably this 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.720 might have gone back to the Vet. I think it 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.800 was the Diamond not I think it was the Rockies clubhouse. 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.200 And I was talking to a couple of guys and 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.600 there was a trainer talking to a player. And the 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.800 trainer was telling this player how it's okay to have 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.560 a cheeseburger now and then that your body craves that 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.200 type of fat and if it will do decent things 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.800 or put that fat to good work. Not every day, 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.040 not every week, but now and then it can be 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.160 good for you. So I'm sticking to that story. 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.400 Let me point out that Zach Wheelers is one of 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.240 the most durable pitchers in baseball, and he famously loves 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:07.800 junk food. Yeah to his locker, he had the candy shop, 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:12.280 him and Zach Eflin. So we talked about some options, Rubin, 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.840 you said, Cody Clemens Christian pace is an option to 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:17.720 play left field. This is all if marsh goes on 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.600 the ils as we all seem to suspect Wit Marifield, 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.560 he's not been good this year. Rich Rob Thompson said, 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:27.960 I think it was yesterday that he just. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.920 Hasn't played enough. We've got to get him playing more. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.000 Now, let me ask you guys this about real quick, 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.120 and then I'll continue with the other options. Wit Mayorfield 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:35.760 is on pace right now to have three hundred and 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.160 seven to play appearances, is it? 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:38.520 That? 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.960 Is that not that much where he's it kind of 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.800 not excuses but explains why he's struggling so much. Three 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.120 hundred and seven played appearances for over the course of 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.559 the season seems like enough work. 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:52.720 No, that you should be a little bit more productive. 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.959 Yeah right, okay, all right, three hundred and seven is 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.920 what Pat Gillick. He used to use that phrase, semi regular, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:08:59.720 remember that, Rubin. 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.360 Yes, I'm sure, okay, all right, that's sure. 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.520 You should be able to stay sharp on Okay. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.320 I I know that this is judge. I've talked about 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.679 it publicly. I've talked about at nauseum. 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.040 It's an adjustment going from and he'd being an everyday 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.240 player to be an a bench player at some point. 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:16.200 Now there's really no excuse. 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.320 At some point, he's going to get a chance to 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.320 play probably three out of the next seven days, out 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:22.920 of the next seven day, whatever the case may be. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.160 He's going to get a chance to play now. And 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.439 if he's not being productive, then they're going to have 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.440 to start peeking around to see where else they can 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.000 be more productive. Now I think he will be. I 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.800 still think he's a you know, viable and. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:37.080 Solid major league player. 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.040 Again, but you have to produce at some point, you know, 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.800 Dave Dobrowski, I know where they paying seven or eight 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:43.480 million dollars. 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.840 You got to You've got to kind of be productive. 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:46.680 You have to. 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.720 And I love the guy. I think he's I thought 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.440 it was a great signing, but you have to also produce. 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:54.800 We're in a production. 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:59.160 Business and and you know he's going to have to 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:04.640 start coming through with more consistent you know, at bats. 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.560 I think there already are peaking around and if if 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.439 they're not, they should be. For more production of that outfield. 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.240 You need to build this team that a team that's 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.320 going to succeed in October. And to me, that means 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.400 right now you should have your eye on the outfield 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.680 and how they can get more consistent production out there. 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.120 No, I do want to point out also we talked. 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.640 We've talked a lot about Nick Castis. I probably get 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.120 more tweets and emails and comments about Nicko. Why does 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.640 Rob Thompson keep playing Nick cast Let me point out 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.679 these numbers. I look these up. Just ten minutes ago. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.080 Nick Cassi is less ten games, betting two seventy nine, 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.160 three home run six RBIs eight thirty seven ops. Nick 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.559 Cassian since May fourth betting two fifty five, five home 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:48.440 runs sixteen RBIs seven sixty three ops. MLB average ops 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.000 is six ninety eight. He's actually been putting up some 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.040 decent numbers for the last month. And we talked a 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.080 lot about this team trying to win the World Series. 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:55.680 That's the goal. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.720 This team's chances of winning the World Series improve if 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:00.959 Nick Castianos gets going. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:02.480 That's why he's playing every day. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.080 So you've got Clemens and left, possibly Mayfield and left, 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:10.800 possibly Christian Pace and left, possibly ed maybe when Turner 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.560 comes back at Mundo Sosa. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:13.280 Is that crazy? 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.400 I mean Rob's mentioned it, you know, possibly getting him 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:17.120 out there in left field. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:18.439 He hasn't played a lot of left field. 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.960 They tried him in center field a couple springs ago, 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:22.520 and then they kind of pulled the plug on that 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:23.679 once the season started. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:26.680 Would that be something you would look at? 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:27.960 Yeah? 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.400 I would. I would. I don't think it's an everyday solution, 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.959 but no, occasionally, if you can make a play out 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:35.600 there and you can kind of ride this hot hand 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.679 that he's shown since Trey Turner went down, I mean, 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:42.080 why not. The kid's athletic enough. You know, there might 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.440 be a lot of mixing and matching until somebody steps 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:45.520 up and grabs that job. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:47.600 Yeah, I totally agree. 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:49.880 I mean sometimes you have to be a little bit 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:52.560 more creative in certain situations. 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:53.760 My concern is. 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.000 That that makes for a very, very ugly defensive outfield. 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.440 I think that, you know, that's where it's in a 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.680 lot of ways. Strangely, it sort of saves Johann Rojas 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.600 because he's got to play out there in center field. 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.640 If you have these other off outfielders who are sort 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.760 of out of position one and left, and you have 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.920 Castianis who's done a nice job but doesn't cover a 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:18.959 ton of ground and right. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.599 So now you're putting yourself in a position. 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.920 To be not very good defensively at the risk of 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.960 you know, just adding you know, production with the bat. 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.880 You sort of need somebody who can go catch the baseball, 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.479 and you got you got to be careful about that because. 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.200 You know, by and large, you're you know, one of 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:38.960 the biggest. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.000 Strengths of your team is yours you're pitching, so you've 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.719 got to make sure you support it defensively. And it 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.080 was a concern a couple of years back about you know, 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.400 the outfields defense is terrible. You know, it's got to 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:54.760 get better, and so you can't necessarily sacrifice that. And 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.280 something to think about as well. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.040 And then triple A Wes Wilson, he is the only 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.240 guy in the forty man David Dolls having a great year, Uck, 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.440 you said Rubin, he's not on the forty man, always 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:07.000 a consideration. Jordan Luplo having at another he's having a 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.000 good year as well, not on the forty man. Wes 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.120 Wilson started off terribly the last twenty games. He's really 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:16.480 really come on. So yeah, probably I would think. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:17.040 That's the guy. 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:18.360 I think that's going to be the guy because he 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.680 also creates a lot of versatility because you can play 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.120 so many different positions and he can really run, and 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.400 he's gonna play solid defense if he gets chances. 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:30.960 Yeah, Maker, that makes it right, Yeah, for sure, for sure, 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.719 short term, short term. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.240 So Marsh probably head of the il. 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:43.240 Ranger Suarez looks like he avoided serious catastrophe by maybe 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.760 breaking his hand on Saturday Night. I mean that kind 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.400 of illustrates starting pitching depth and the importance of it. 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.199 You know, how lucky did, how lucky did, How lucky 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.280 did Ranger get, and how lucky did the Phillies get 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:55.120 on Saturday Night. 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.640 It's crazy, crazy, very. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.280 Lucky, both of them, very lucky guys having a career year. 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:06.079 Your team's had a career year. Can't affordunately, can't afford 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.480 to lose anybody. And he's such a major contributor and 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.160 such an important piece to this so it was good 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:15.319 to see him escape escape injury. It was a little 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.120 scary for a moment. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:17.960 Yeah, it was. 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.120 And my daughter went to the game. She came down 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.440 from New York. She was all excited about seeing Ranger 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:30.280 pitch and he gets drilled. She texts me right away, Oh, no, Ranger, 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.200 Ranger got popped and he's out of the game. 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.600 No way, I can't believe it. Something like that. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:42.960 And I told Andre, it's okay, It'll be fine. Thankfully, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.600 was because you're right. You don't want to lose the 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.240 range or no. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:48.680 Man. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.680 My colleague at MLB dot com, Paul Cassell, he had 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:56.320 this unbelievable stat. Listen to this eighth pitcher since nineteen thirteen. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.680 There have been eight pictures since nineteen thirteen have seventy 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.040 five more strikeouts, nine or more wins and a one 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.520 point seven oh ear a and like eight starts or something. 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.520 Obaldo Hemen is in twenty ten. Then the list goes 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:11.640 to Pedro Martinez, Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, Greg Maddix, Vita Blue, 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:13.120 Sandy Kofax. 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.120 And Ranger Suarez. I mean, that's how good. 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.200 That's how good you guys, Ben, So, yeah, I could 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:19.960 see why everybody was holding the breath and while your 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.600 daughter was in a panic, full pat Saturday, full panic 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:24.240 on Saturday. 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:25.280 So what do they do there? 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.000 If it sounds like they're gonna he's gonna throw today 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.040 or tomorrow, see if you can grip the ball, you 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.600 need to do that. If you can't go, you go 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.240 Spencer Turnbull on Saturday. Rangers schedule to go on. 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.280 That's what I would do. 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:43.040 No, and they got a nice little this little cushion 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.680 time wise because of the London trip, But yeah, I 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.720 would think you would go with Spencer Turnbull look good 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:49.200 and release the other night he gave you a little 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.960 bit of a little bit of length and yeah, this 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:56.280 is why you have that depth piece in Turnbull And 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.640 this is uh, he's pitched well and if you need 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.760 a spot start, he has to be the guy. I 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:02.160 would think. 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:04.800 You just have to be careful with grips. 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.120 I mean, obviously when you start changing, if you have 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.360 to start changing your delivery, or you have to do 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.680 something different with your hand. If he can't really grip 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.280 the baseball, I mean, the only thing that's on your 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.600 on the baseball, and as I talk about this, with hitting, 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.400 the only thing that's on the bat is your hands. 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.280 The only thing on the baseball is your fingers in 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:26.080 your hands. So if that's not working perfectly, then you 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:30.160 have a chance to then compromise your elbow, your shoulder, 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.760 whatever the case may be. So you can be sure 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.840 that they will not let him take the mound at 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.200 the major league level, particularly if they have to go 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:44.080 do it in London, to you know, compromise anything that 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.960 would damage this guy. And the fact that they have 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.880 Spencer Turnbull to be able to turn to sort of 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.560 a no brainer. Again, if he's fine, he'll pitch. If 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:57.800 he's not perfectly one hundred percent fine, he will not pitch. 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:58.680 I can assure you. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:03.000 That, nor should he if he's ninety nine point nine 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:04.200 take a rest. 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:06.880 I'm right with you. Yeah, it's not that important. 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.080 The London Series is nice and it's great, and this 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.679 would be great for him to pitch there, But guess what, 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.320 not that important when you're trying to win a World Series. 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.439 Yeah, and I think I feel like the vibe in 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:20.240 that clubhouse is we understand the big picture. 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.760 So he's not going to go You know, I'm okay enough. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.720 I think even Ranger hopefully is smart enough to say, 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.000 you know, I'm kind of not there, give me a 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:31.879 few more days and let's go forward. But it kind 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.679 of illustrates, gosh, if something had happened to Ranger, kind 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.200 of illustrates again starting pitching depth and what they would 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.960 do and and you know, you look down a Triple A. 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:41.280 Mc gables hurt right now. 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.960 But even if he wasn't hurt, I don't think he 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:45.720 would have been an option. 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:47.560 He's really struggling right now in Triple A. 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.440 Tyler Phillips is a starter with the ERA over five. 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.880 Davy Buchanan's got an e O over five. Michael Mercado 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:56.600 maybe their best starter right now, but he hasn't really 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:59.640 gone more than like four innings since he moved into 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:00.600 the row to So. 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.199 Just illustrates starting pitching depth too. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.320 You know, all this kind of stuff comes up and 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:08.840 kind of shows you how close they are to, you know, 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:09.760 walk on that line. 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.000 Thank goodness they have Turnbull and excellent signing. 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.720 Yeah, it might might be one of the best signings 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.479 of the Yearnest for sure might pre for the dollars 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.480 and cents might be one of the best signings in 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:22.240 all baseball. 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:25.320 I mean there's others that you know, I've done a 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:26.320 good job there, but. 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.240 Wow, with the with the level of importance that and 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:34.480 the level of depth that he creates for this team. 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.640 Well, my going back to my colleague Paul Cassella, he said, 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:40.679 the only other starter this season with six or more 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.520 starts with an ERA better than Rangers Suarez A Spencer Turnbull. 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:48.399 He's got a one six seven. I mean, really, again, 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:50.919 you think about it. When they signed him, it was 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:52.280 it was a Super Bowl Sunday. 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.679 They agreed to terms, and it was like, maybe he's 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.560 going to be a Triple A starter to start the year. 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.320 He would have to accept the assignment. Will he accept 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.560 the assignment to Triple A? Maybe he'll be a long man. 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.240