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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Chase Utley and this is the Phillies Show. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Philly Show with Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury.

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Speaker 1: I'm todd so lucky. It is Monday, June third, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. The Phillies take two of three from the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals this weekend at Citizens Bank Park. They lose the

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Speaker 1: series finale Sunday Night Tough One in ten innings. A

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Speaker 1: lot of things happened. The biggest thing that happened, for

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Speaker 1: sure was Brandon Marsh pulling up grabbing the back of

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Speaker 1: his right hamstring. No immediate word on the injury, but

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Speaker 1: it did not look good. Rob Thompson walked straight out

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Speaker 1: to second base and he told reporters afterwards I could

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Speaker 1: tell by the look in his face he was in pain,

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Speaker 1: so immediately called for the pinch runner. Rob said afterwards

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Speaker 1: about right now, right now.

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Speaker 2: He is day to day.

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Speaker 1: But based off the way Marsh grabbed his leg does

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Speaker 1: not look very good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it doesn't. I mean, look, the way teams and

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Speaker 3: athletes now are so cautious with injuries, I think we

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Speaker 3: can reasonably speculate that this is looking like an il stint.

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Speaker 3: The way he you know, it happened so suddenly and acutely,

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Speaker 3: and the way he hobbled off and legs are an

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Speaker 3: important part of his game, and you got to think

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Speaker 3: they'll protect him. And obviously no official word yet, but

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't surprise me at all to see some Iel

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Speaker 3: time similar injury to Trey Turner, and you got to

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Speaker 3: knock those things out because otherwise they they linger all year.

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Speaker 3: It was a weekend series that left I'm getting greedy,

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Speaker 3: I know, but it left me wanting more. Even though

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals came in pretty hot team they won twelve

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Speaker 3: or fifteen, and the Phillies get out and win two

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Speaker 3: games right out of the gate. They look great, and

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Speaker 3: Taiwan Walker just the so so start, gave up those

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Speaker 3: two run two two run home runs, didn't pitch deep

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Speaker 3: into the game and starting pitching dictates everything, and it

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Speaker 3: just felt like, you know, they weren't going to overcome

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Speaker 3: it on Sunday night, and they did not. But the

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Speaker 3: Marsh injury is significant. You need all your pieces. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we've talked about it at nauseum, but this is a

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Speaker 3: team that's.

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Speaker 4: Going to play in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: We know that barring something crazy and that crazy thing

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Speaker 3: would be a rash of injuries. So you need just

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Speaker 3: keep this team healthy. They seem to have skirted something

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Speaker 3: with Ranger Suarez on that comebacker, but marsh Turner, they've

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Speaker 3: done a great job playing over that injury, mostly because

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Speaker 3: of Sosa. Now they're gonna have to play over something else.

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Speaker 3: Not sure what they're going to do out there in

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Speaker 3: the outfield, but we've talked a ton about it. Needing

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Speaker 3: more production out there. Somebody like Merryfield. This could be

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Speaker 3: an opportunity for him to get more at bats, maybe

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Speaker 3: get him gone one he needs to get going. Clemens

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Speaker 3: could be in the picture, Pache will be in the

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Speaker 3: picture more. I'm sure I'm missing some some David dall

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Speaker 3: Is swinging it at Triple A. Maybe it's time to

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Speaker 3: take a look at him. So, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 3: an ever evolving season and injuries are something that a

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Speaker 3: front office always has to be aware of. And that's

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Speaker 3: where your depth. You know, we talked about depth and

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Speaker 3: starting pitching a lot in the last podcast. Depth on

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Speaker 3: your roster is vital. So yeah, we're gonna learn more

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Speaker 3: about this today. You hope it's not real long term,

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Speaker 3: but I think they're gonna have probably have to make

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously you don't want to lose any of

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Speaker 4: Unless it was a cramp.

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Speaker 5: I don't think there's any question that this guy's gonna

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Speaker 5: be really cautious with Marsha as well. Big loss for

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Speaker 5: them just because of what he brings to the table,

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Speaker 5: not just on the field, but off the field as well.

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Speaker 5: He's just like having those guys on the field as

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Speaker 5: simple as that. They do have a cushion. They do

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Speaker 5: have some depth in there on their club, Jim, you

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Speaker 4: I obviously Dolls had experience, but Weston Wilson's a.

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Speaker 5: Guy that they really liked and he has performed for

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Speaker 5: them when they you know, and I talk about this

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Speaker 5: and regardless of how that guy is, you know, particularly

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Speaker 5: it's an emotional thing. You know, sometimes you don't play

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Speaker 5: I've I've gone down to Triple A and had the

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Speaker 5: woe's mees where you know, you just don't play to

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Speaker 4: You're in Triple A and you're not in the big

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Speaker 5: That said, it will be interestingly who they go to

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Speaker 5: as far as, you know, creating some more depth.

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Speaker 4: I do think.

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Speaker 5: I mean Cody Clemens is gonna play. I mean they

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Speaker 5: He made another play, he made his place wasn't pretty,

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Speaker 5: But they're going to toss him out there, especially if

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Speaker 5: they're playing a siss Bank Park. It's not like a

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Speaker 4: So I think Cody's gonna get an opportunity.

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Speaker 5: First, especially against the right handers. That's my guess, could

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Speaker 5: be wrong. Gladly I'm not the manager. I let topp

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Speaker 5: or take care of that. But but again, I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's it's about being costs with them because it's one

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Speaker 5: of those injuries again that you do not want to have.

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Speaker 5: Linger that said, I am surprised to see all these

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Speaker 5: age when guys in they're monitored, their their intakes are monitored,

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Speaker 5: they have these strap on things that monitor everything about them.

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Speaker 4: They whether they have enough electrolytes and all this other stuff.

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Speaker 5: I'm just surprised in this day and age when they

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Speaker 5: talk about being hydrated and take care. Why this is happening.

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Speaker 5: It's happened a lot. I mean, you got I think

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Speaker 5: There's guys with like hamstrings and quads, and in this

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Speaker 4: Be happening with the regularity. They're happening at the major

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Speaker 3: So guys are guys are eating way too healthy? Need

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Speaker 3: you need I'm serious about this. I need to mix in.

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Speaker 3: You need to mix in an occasional cheeseburger. I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about like one a week, one every two weeks maybe,

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Speaker 3: I just think you get a little soft when you

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Speaker 4: Nice and you know what, And you can't. You can't

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Speaker 4: I mean, you just can't, you know.

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Speaker 3: I actually, I actually was in a clubhouse probably this

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Speaker 3: And I was talking to a couple of guys and

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Speaker 3: trainer was telling this player how it's okay to have

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Speaker 3: a cheeseburger now and then that your body craves that

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Speaker 3: or put that fat to good work. Not every day,

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Speaker 3: not every week, but now and then it can be

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Speaker 3: good for you. So I'm sticking to that story.

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Speaker 1: Let me point out that Zach Wheelers is one of

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Speaker 1: the most durable pitchers in baseball, and he famously loves

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Speaker 1: him and Zach Eflin. So we talked about some options, Rubin,

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Speaker 1: you said, Cody Clemens Christian pace is an option to

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Speaker 1: the ils as we all seem to suspect Wit Marifield,

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Speaker 1: he's not been good this year. Rich Rob Thompson said,

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Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday that he just.

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Speaker 2: Hasn't played enough. We've got to get him playing more.

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Speaker 1: and then I'll continue with the other options. Wit Mayorfield

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Speaker 1: Is that not that much where he's it kind of

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Speaker 1: not excuses but explains why he's struggling so much. Three

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Speaker 2: No, that you should be a little bit more productive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, okay, all right, three hundred and seven is

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sure, okay, all right, that's sure.

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Speaker 3: You should be able to stay sharp on Okay.

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Speaker 4: I I know that this is judge. I've talked about

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Speaker 5: It's an adjustment going from and he'd being an everyday

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Speaker 4: Now there's really no excuse.

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Speaker 5: At some point, he's going to get a chance to

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Speaker 5: He's going to get a chance to play now. And

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Speaker 5: be more productive. Now I think he will be. I

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Speaker 4: Solid major league player.

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Speaker 5: Again, but you have to produce at some point, you know,

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Speaker 5: Dave Dobrowski, I know where they paying seven or eight

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Speaker 4: You got to You've got to kind of be productive.

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Speaker 2: You have to.

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Speaker 4: And I love the guy. I think he's I thought

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Speaker 4: it was a great signing, but you have to also produce.

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Speaker 4: We're in a production.

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Speaker 5: Business and and you know he's going to have to

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Speaker 5: start coming through with more consistent you know, at bats.

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Speaker 3: I think there already are peaking around and if if

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Speaker 3: they're not, they should be. For more production of that outfield.

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Speaker 3: You need to build this team that a team that's

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Speaker 3: going to succeed in October. And to me, that means

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Speaker 3: right now you should have your eye on the outfield

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Speaker 3: and how they can get more consistent production out there.

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Speaker 1: No, I do want to point out also we talked.

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Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about Nick Castis. I probably get

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Speaker 1: more tweets and emails and comments about Nicko. Why does

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Speaker 1: Rob Thompson keep playing Nick cast Let me point out

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Speaker 1: these numbers. I look these up. Just ten minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: Nick Cassi is less ten games, betting two seventy nine,

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Speaker 1: three home run six RBIs eight thirty seven ops. Nick

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Speaker 2: That's the goal.

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Speaker 1: This team's chances of winning the World Series improve if

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Speaker 2: That's why he's playing every day.

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Speaker 2: Would that be something you would look at?

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Speaker 3: why not. The kid's athletic enough. You know, there might

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree.

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Speaker 5: If you have these other off outfielders who are sort

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Speaker 1: And then triple A Wes Wilson, he is the only

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Speaker 1: you said Rubin, he's not on the forty man, always

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Speaker 4: That's the guy.

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Speaker 5: I think that's going to be the guy because he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Maker, that makes it right, Yeah, for sure, for sure,

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Speaker 2: So Marsh probably head of the il.

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Speaker 1: Ranger Suarez looks like he avoided serious catastrophe by maybe

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Speaker 1: You know, how lucky did, how lucky did, How lucky

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, crazy, very.

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Speaker 3: Lucky, both of them, very lucky guys having a career year.

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Speaker 3: Your team's had a career year. Can't affordunately, can't afford

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Speaker 3: to lose anybody. And he's such a major contributor and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 5: And my daughter went to the game. She came down

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Speaker 5: Ranger got popped and he's out of the game.

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Speaker 4: No way, I can't believe it. Something like that.

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Speaker 5: And I told Andre, it's okay, It'll be fine. Thankfully,

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: My colleague at MLB dot com, Paul Cassell, he had

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Speaker 1: this unbelievable stat. Listen to this eighth pitcher since nineteen thirteen.

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Speaker 1: There have been eight pictures since nineteen thirteen have seventy

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Speaker 2: And Ranger Suarez. I mean, that's how good.

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Speaker 1: That's how good you guys, Ben, So, yeah, I could

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Speaker 2: So what do they do there?

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Speaker 1: If it sounds like they're gonna he's gonna throw today

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Speaker 2: That's what I would do.

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Speaker 3: No, and they got a nice little this little cushion

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Speaker 4: You just have to be careful with grips.

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously when you start changing, if you have

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Speaker 4: I can assure you.

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Speaker 3: That, nor should he if he's ninety nine point nine

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Speaker 4: I'm right with you. Yeah, it's not that important.

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Speaker 5: The London Series is nice and it's great, and this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I feel like the vibe in

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Speaker 2: So he's not going to go You know, I'm okay enough.

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Speaker 1: I think even Ranger hopefully is smart enough to say,

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Speaker 1: But even if he wasn't hurt, I don't think he

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Speaker 2: He's really struggling right now in Triple A.

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Speaker 2: Just illustrates starting pitching depth too.

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Speaker 1: You know, all this kind of stuff comes up and

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Speaker 3: Thank goodness they have Turnbull and excellent signing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it might might be one of the best signings

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Speaker 1: Well, my going back to my colleague Paul Cassella, he said,

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Speaker 1: They agreed to terms, and it was like, maybe he's

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Speaker 5: You got to get lucky sometimes, man. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 4: To have success, you got to give them some love

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Speaker 5: And shoot, you got to get lucky sometimes when you

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Speaker 5: I mean, because Pat believed in him, and he was like,

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Speaker 5: I think he took him in the office. He's just

441
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 5: like slammed him, like, dude, it's time for you to

442
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,919
Speaker 5: like step forward, let's freaking go.

443
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Speaker 4: And he did and from that went on.

444
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if Jason really talks about that all

445
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 5: that much or is discussed, but I mean Pat sort

446
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 5: of challenged him in a lot of ways, and the

447
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 5: kid responded and it became Jason Wirth.

448
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 4: He owes a lot to Pat. I think.

449
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 3: Story we're kind of on a tangent, but I like tangents.

450
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,199
Speaker 3: So you were going to kind of maybe sign him

451
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 3: to a minor league deal, and then didn't Billy Bean

452
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 3: come in and kind of backdoor you with a big

453
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 3: league deal and you had to give him a big

454
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Speaker 3: league deal.

455
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Speaker 5: Well, basically I've told him I was talking to the

456
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Speaker 5: agent I was in charge of like sort of managing

457
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 5: the negotiations, and you know, Pat.

458
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 4: Was like, he's not gonna sign. You know, he's not

459
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Speaker 4: gonna sign a major league deal.

460
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Speaker 5: And I'm like, I'm like, Pat, I don't think we

461
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 5: can get this guy. If you really want this guy,

462
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 5: we're gonna have to give him a major league deal.

463
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 5: And we ended up having to put him on the

464
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Speaker 5: forty man roster. I'm not sure if it was a

465
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Speaker 5: bunch of bs or not, but had we I mean,

466
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 5: I'm like, if you really want the player, you got

467
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Speaker 5: to step forward. I don't know if we at the

468
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 5: time we had room on the forty man. I don't

469
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Speaker 5: remember all the particulars about it, but uh, but Pat

470
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 5: did some serious background as he always does, did some

471
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 5: awesome background on him, went to see him. I think

472
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 5: he and Mike Arbuckle went to see him personally and

473
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 5: chatted with him. But I mean, we we basically had

474
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Speaker 5: to step forward and do a major league deal for

475
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Speaker 5: the guy. I don't know seven hundred thousand or a

476
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 5: million dollars or whatever the case may be, but we

477
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 5: sort of had to guarantee him that money, and Pat

478
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 5: was kind of reluctant to do it. I'm like that

479
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 5: we're not gonna get the guy if it don't do it,

480
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 5: and we ended up signing him in the rest was

481
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Speaker 5: sort of history.

482
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Speaker 3: Well, Spencer Spencer Turnbull's some similarities. You know, it's a

483
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 3: cut right deal, a guy coming back for some injuries

484
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 3: he had. It was a pedigree kind of draft, high

485
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 3: round draft. And if he goes out that continues to

486
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 3: have a really good year, much like Jason Worth is

487
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: gonna you know, get his career back on good footing

488
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 3: and has a chance to go Chi Chang.

489
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Speaker 5: Chi Chain, no question about especially with the dearth of

490
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 5: pitching and people who go, are you kidding me? If

491
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 5: you're a starting pitcher right now and you can have

492
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 5: some level of success, I mean they're turning guys. How

493
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 5: about Jordan Hicks who they turn They're turning you know,

494
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 5: bullpen guys into starters right now because it's.

495
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 4: Amazing, guys. The starting pitching is actually important.

496
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Speaker 2: It's nice, it's fun to watch.

497
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Speaker 3: Can you believe it?

498
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? I love it?

499
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 3: I mean again, but what old will we do?

500
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Speaker 5: It's just it's just the silliness of what is gone

501
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 5: and making contact and not striking out and stealing a base, And.

502
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 4: Isn't that amazing. It's for twelve years, somebody else took

503
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 4: over and changed the whole world. I don't get it.

504
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 4: Well confused.

505
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: Well, Jason Worth one of the most productive right handed

506
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: hitters for the Phillies in the last you know how

507
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 1: many years. Reyese Hoskins one of the most productive right

508
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: handed hitters for the Phillies in the last how many years? Uh,

509
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: Brewers coming back into town tonight, three game series at

510
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: Citizens Bank Park. Jim, you wrote about Reese at allphl

511
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Speaker 1: y dot com.

512
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you want to tell me about it?

513
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 3: Well, he's coming back tonight for three games. Comes off

514
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,239
Speaker 3: the I l You know, I always had a lot

515
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: of respect for Reese. I remember he was drafted during

516
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: Ruben's time as GM. He was drafted fourteen, fifth round,

517
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: which is kind of a bit of a magic round

518
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 3: for the Phillies and first in Big Bats where they

519
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 3: got Ryan Howard. But you know, I still remember his

520
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: first year talking to Charlie Manual and Charlie said, you

521
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 3: know in his voice that Boyden knows how to drive

522
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 3: in a run, and he had a knack for driving

523
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: in runs. And you know, he developed the leg kick

524
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 3: with Joe Jordan and Andy Tracy and it became a

525
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 3: real staple in his in his swing. But what always

526
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: jumped out about me Reese's maturity, his intelligence. He was

527
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 3: and this is no BA. He was always team first,

528
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: and he would survived from some rough days in that

529
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 3: rebuild when he was like the great Hope and the

530
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: great position player Hope, and he was the kind of

531
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: the one guy that emerged from that group and was

532
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: there when they were ready to win. And you know,

533
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: he always looked to me like a foundational player that

534
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: might be around a good long time. And then all

535
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 3: of a sudden, now there was this influx of players

536
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 3: from outside the system, Hoskins, Wheeler, Real Mudo, Turner, Schwoar

537
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: or Castianos, and they all have big price tags. And

538
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: I used to talk about this with Reese more than once.

539
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 3: You know, everybody's getting their paydays, and you know, do

540
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: you ever wonder if there's gonna be room for you?

541
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 3: And you, the homegrown guy who endured the rebuild, are

542
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 3: going to be the guy that's pushed out? And you know,

543
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 3: he he was always mature in talking about it, recognized

544
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 3: it was a possibility, never complained about it, and just

545
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: worked hard every day and Indeed, he was the guy

546
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 3: that for a lot of reasons just wasn't payroll. It

547
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: was spot you know, they needed a spot for Harper,

548
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: they needed a spot for Schwore where they're heavy in

549
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 3: these DH types and first base DH types. And he

550
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 3: also survived to me, three very serious injuries. I mean

551
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: he had the the UCL tear, he had the abdominal tear,

552
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: and the the a c L which he missed all

553
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 3: last year, three serious injuries that required major surgeries. So

554
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: I always thought he was a good Philly, good guy,

555
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: class guy, and I believe he'll get a really nice

556
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: ovation tonight and we might even see that Batspike a

557
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: little bit up on the scoreboard.

558
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think we'll see it. Several times. I

559
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 4: would just say this a couple of things.

560
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 5: One, I have a soft spot for him, obviously because

561
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 5: he was in our system when we brought him into

562
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 5: the system, when I was still as the GM and

563
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 5: just watching his progression and you know, come through the system,

564
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 5: there was a question always about you know, defensively he

565
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 5: could be okay and he's gonna end up being a DH,

566
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 5: but a great run producer. Really matured as a hitter,

567
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 5: especially and I think he put some ridiculous numbers up

568
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 5: in reading at one point where he was just mashing

569
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 5: the baseball and driving in runs at at a tremendous rate.

570
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 5: But when I think of Reese Hoskins, I think of

571
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 5: a classy young man and and sort of represented And

572
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 5: I know he was sort of the spokesman for a

573
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 5: while as as they were, as we were in that transition,

574
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 5: or as the organization was in the transition.

575
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 4: I was gone at that point once he got to

576
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 4: the big leagues.

577
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 5: But I think he represented the organization extraordinarily well. I

578
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 5: think he represents his family. He and his wife represent

579
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 5: the family extremely well. And so you have a soft

580
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 5: spot for someone like that who's that classy and that professional.

581
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean baseball is a tough game, and

582
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 5: it's the decisions that you have to make. You know,

583
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 5: they end up signing to Castillanos and that's probably Castiumers.

584
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 5: And then and then you have you know, the Schwarbers,

585
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 5: as you said, Jim of the world, and you start,

586
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 5: you know, looking at your team and Okay, where can

587
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 5: we improve in certain areas? Where do we fit all

588
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 5: the pieces of the puzzle. And he ended up being

589
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 5: a guy that then ended up being sort of the

590
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 5: odd man out. But but I think in his heart

591
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 5: of hearts, he'll always sort of be a Philly. I

592
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 5: think he probably feels that he probably felt a little

593
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 5: disappointed and shunned about, you know, what happened in in

594
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 5: the offseason. But I'm glad he landed with Milwaukee. Great

595
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 5: spot for him. He I'm sure he's bringing a lot

596
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 5: of maturity to that team, who has a has a

597
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 5: very young team, uh with some very good athletes, and

598
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 5: I think that's a it's a great thing for that organization.

599
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 5: Good kid man, good you good young man, I should

600
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 5: say kid man. He's a he's a grown man.

601
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: He's a girl man. You know, think about this. You know,

602
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: they he and his wife Jamie, bought a house in

603
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: Center City. They lived here a couple off seasons.

604
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: That doesn't happen too often anymore where you know, players

605
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: was just scattered to Florida or Scottsdale or wherever they

606
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: want to live warmer weather.

607
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: In the off season.

608
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: They stayed here a couple of years because they were

609
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: so connected to the city, did a lot of work

610
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: charity work with MDA, and you know, they were always

611
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: out in the community.

612
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: They really did love it here.

613
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: When I think of Reese, I think of the same

614
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: thing Jim just being in the clubhouse. How many times

615
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: during that awful run they were.

616
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 6: On to be go.

617
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: Yes, let's talk to Reese, because he's kind of he

618
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: was kind of the de facto spokesman. They know you

619
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: valued his opinion, and he was always available and at

620
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: his locker after bad loss after bad loss after bad loss,

621
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: if he had a good game or a bad game,

622
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: he was there. I very distinctly remember at the end

623
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: of I think it was the twenty nineteen season, they

624
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: lost like ten in a row. They finally gotten eliminated

625
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, A couple of his teammates were kind of

626
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: yucking it up, getting dressed ready to go back catch

627
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: a team bus, and he was still in full uni,

628
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: his head buried in his locker because they had finally

629
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: got officially eliminated from the postseason.

630
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: Because he he did care that much.

631
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: And every time I will point out, every time you

632
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: see a Phillies player homer and salute the bullpen, that

633
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: was a tradition that Reese Hoskins started back in eighteen

634
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: so and now you see it all around baseball. That

635
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: is a Reese Hoskins started tradition the sal college.

636
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: Yep, he started that. He started that.

637
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: I wrote about that last going in the last postseason.

638
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: You know, I was a little piece of Reese is

639
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: going to carry into the postseason.

640
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: And he started at City Field.

641
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: No, he started it. He's we went back and found it.

642
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: He came back from the injured list.

643
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: When you remember when he broke his jaw, falling up

644
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: all off his face.

645
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: And.

646
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: Yes, he he was on the il and I think

647
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: what the story he told was after the game, after

648
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: you a game, Hector Norris and he were by the

649
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: iPad in the clubhouse where they turn up to music,

650
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: and they were doing some rock and roll music and

651
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: Hector Norris did the rock on signed from him. It's

652
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: like jumping around acting like a goofball because that's what

653
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: Hector Nerris is.

654
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: And then.

655
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: Hoskins came back from the aisle. It might have been

656
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: that first game back or second game back. He homered

657
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: and he gave he gave the old salute to Hector

658
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Speaker 1: Harris in the bullpen and then he just kept doing

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Speaker 4: So that's that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: That's an awesome little tidbit everybody does it now, you

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Speaker 3: shit it up and down the game, and it's like

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Speaker 3: the guy who invented the high five, Glenn Burke, him

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Speaker 3: and Dusty Baker invented the high five. So Reese Hoskins

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Speaker 3: invented the bullpen salute, which is like we said, it's

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Speaker 3: probably gonna be around for an awfully long time.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, Kyle, and Kyle Schwarber said, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to keep doing it, and you know, every well, everybody.

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Speaker 2: In the Phillies keeps doing it. It's it's kind of

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Speaker 2: a thing now.

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Speaker 3: And I like it because those guys in the bullpen.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you go in the doug everybody high fives,

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Speaker 3: he gives you a little, you know, a little love

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Speaker 3: of home run. These guys in the bullpen just as

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Speaker 3: much as part of the team, and they're just as happy.

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Speaker 2: And that's what that's what that was part of it.

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Speaker 2: Hector and Nerris said.

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Speaker 1: He's like I told Reese afterwards, like you got to

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Speaker 1: keep doing that because we're we're part of.

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Speaker 2: The team too, you know.

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Speaker 1: And now it's to the point where Bryce Harper has

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Speaker 1: done this a few times where he's forgotten to salute

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Speaker 1: and he will call down the bullpen to apologize.

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Speaker 3: That's right, bad guys. I will sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: I forgot to give you guy. This is the salute.

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Speaker 3: So that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: So Reese will get a standing ovation, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: If he hits a home run, it might be a

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Speaker 2: different story.

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Speaker 1: But I think no, I think it would be at

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Speaker 1: some point it will be sure that it would be a.

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Speaker 2: Loving boo if he gets booed.

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Speaker 3: It's the funny thing, is he you know, he hits

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Speaker 3: that home run against Spencer Strider in Game three in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two against the Braves in the NLDS. He

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Speaker 3: was booed early in that hit, the home run in

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Speaker 3: the third inning. He was booed after striking out in

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Speaker 3: the first inning. He was booed during introductions because he

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Speaker 3: had a tough night in Atlanta the night before, and

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Speaker 3: I mean that was part of that batspike.

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Speaker 1: It was like, you know for him, yeah, that that

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Speaker 1: isn't quite a moment for him.

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Speaker 3: And he never complained about the booze. He never complained.

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Speaker 3: I remember that one great quote he had about Philadelphia

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Speaker 3: said it's an honest market, meaning you know, I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you when you're good to tell you when you're bad.

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Speaker 3: And it was to me a perfect summation of playing here.

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Speaker 2: That's a moment.

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Speaker 1: Fifty years from now, they're going to be doing a

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Speaker 1: retrospective on the Phillies and you're gonna have Tug mcgrad

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Speaker 1: dropping to his knees.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have bed limit the bank.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have you know, brad Lidge dropping, Tug raising

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Speaker 1: his arms, Lydge dropping to his knees, and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have the batspike from brhys Hoskins in Game three of

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NLDS, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: So don't forget that home run from Bryce Harbor no.

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Speaker 2: Limit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that literally was the greatest. I was one of

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Speaker 4: the most amazing moments I've ever seen. Anyway, that's that

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Speaker 4: was gonna digress.

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Speaker 1: More more what we will be back Wednesday or Thursday

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Speaker 1: before the Phillies go to London. So don't want to

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Speaker 1: miss that next episode. It's gonna be a good one,

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Speaker 1: I promise. Oh yeah, thanks guys.

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