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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hey guys, it's Ashley. Ben is

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Speaker 1: on the road. He will be making an appearance at

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Speaker 1: the end of the episode, but right now, I think

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Speaker 1: it's just gonna be me and the best co host

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Speaker 1: I could possibly have to replace Ben. And Ben, you

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Speaker 1: are not replaceable, Okay, it's that clear. You're not replaceable.

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Speaker 1: But like, if I had to pick another cost it

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Speaker 1: would be this guy. Chris Harrison is on the show today, yea.

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Speaker 1: And then we'll be calling My Bachelor in Paradise to

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Speaker 1: castmate Tenley molds on, I want the update on her relationship,

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Speaker 1: her marriage, and then we have Ben coming on and

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Speaker 1: he's going to surprise a new girl on American Idol.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Meghan Fitten, and on the premiere episode

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Speaker 1: of American Idol on One Day, she talked about how

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Speaker 1: she loved American Idol, how she grew up with it,

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Speaker 1: but her heart and soul is with Ben Higgins. Like

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Speaker 1: she's a huge fan of the Bachelor, and she spent

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Speaker 1: her American Idol audition package talking about Ben Higgins, so

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Speaker 1: that's really cool. So she thinks that she's calling in

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Speaker 1: to um to talk to like Ryan or something. I

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Speaker 1: think she's going to talk to Heart radio producers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so like I'm going to be that. My name is

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Speaker 1: Mark and I am an Ihart radio producer. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I'll pretend to be one of those. Yeah. So she

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Speaker 1: thinks she's calling in to talk to not Ben, and

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Speaker 1: then we're going to surprise her and be like, you're

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Speaker 1: actually on Ben's podcast. Here is This is gonna be

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Speaker 1: really fun. But you got away to the end of

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Speaker 1: the episode, which shouldn't be hard because we have Chris

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Speaker 1: Harrison on the line and he's not just the host

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Speaker 1: of the Bachelor. He also is the host of Volcano

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Speaker 1: Live with Nick wallanda Um and ESPN's Stage Steele. He's

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Speaker 1: co hosting this on March fourth. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: to him about this before we get into all the

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Speaker 1: Bachelor drama from the season. Hey, Chris, that's how you're doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm great. How are you awesome? It was good to

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Speaker 1: see you at the Women Tell All the other night.

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Speaker 1: You made the special little visit. I was honored. It

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Speaker 1: was very fun to be up there. It's actually quite nervous.

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Speaker 1: Before I got up there, I was like having evading

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Speaker 1: these women's space. I'm like, it's not my times, is

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Speaker 1: not my hour, and they're gonna not like me because

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Speaker 1: of it. I thought you would enjoy it because for

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Speaker 1: the first time, like nothing had to do with you.

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Speaker 1: You could just enjoy the moment and you you weren't

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Speaker 1: going to cry. It wasn't going to be a disaster

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Speaker 1: or just like a happy come visit us. So you

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Speaker 1: would think in my office, thank you, Yeah, you would

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Speaker 1: think that. I was like, oh no, see, usually I'm

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Speaker 1: here talking about myself and I can do that, but

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Speaker 1: I feel bad being here talking about them. Anyway, it

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Speaker 1: was really fun and I enjoyed it. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: this volcano lie that you're doing. Is this the guy

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Speaker 1: I was always walking around on the tight rope going

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Speaker 1: like across Niagara Falls and stuff. Yeah, I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you've grown up, you know, probably a little bit older

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Speaker 1: than you. The Welenda family are unbelievably famous, their legendary

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Speaker 1: and it's not just Nick and his wife, it is generations.

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Speaker 1: It goes back. You know, three or four generations of

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Speaker 1: crazy stuff. And you probably remember he did the crossing

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Speaker 1: the Grand Canyon. Um, he went across Niagara Falls. His

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Speaker 1: a couple of buildings. And so now his newest idea

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Speaker 1: was I'm gonna go the furthest and highest I've ever

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Speaker 1: been across a live active volcano in Nicaragua. And as

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Speaker 1: he called a good good friend of mine from Dick

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Speaker 1: Clark Productions who was at ABC and this is on ABC,

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Speaker 1: and they called, said, hey, would you want to come

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Speaker 1: Linda walking over a live volcano? And I said, who

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Speaker 1: says no to that? And absolutely, it's it's it's in

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Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, it's just it's in my blood, Chris.

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Speaker 1: I've been doing this since I was in the womb.

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Speaker 1: That's I will definitely be watching this on March fourth.

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday on ABC. Does it start at eight o'clock?

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Speaker 1: I believe so? Yeah. I mean I'm gonna be in Nicaragua,

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Speaker 1: so I have no idea the timing of this, but

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Speaker 1: Miss America and stuff like that. She was nice enough

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Speaker 1: still up in here. He's fighting for it. We're all

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, you guys will have to watch it.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be insane. And what's also going to be

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Speaker 1: insane is the rest of this Bachelor's season. Chris, I'm

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Speaker 1: about stuff that I feel like only you could answer, Um, well,

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Speaker 1: are the girls all rooming together this top three? Well,

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Speaker 1: She is saving herself for marriage, which is fantastic, wonderful

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Speaker 1: um And but it was this ultimatum, although she still

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Speaker 1: You would very rarely say that's something that we produced.

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Speaker 1: to a teenage girl definitely helps, and you know, being

428
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: around this show for eighteen years, so I do see that.

429
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: I see the emotion in my own daughter at times,

430
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, there's really no true explanation for

431
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: some of it. It's just a motion and you know,

432
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: there's no Hey, what are you trying to say right now?

433
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 1: Or tell me how why it's there is no why,

434
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: It's just a motion and it overtakes you sometimes. Exactly

435
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: how is your girlfriend Lauren when she is upset? Is

436
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: she very vocal? I feel like she's very good at

437
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: articulating her feelings. She's pretty good at articulating. She's actually

438
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: maybe the best communicator I've ever been with, and she's

439
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: really good at that. Yeah, and we are both and

440
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: I think because we're both hosts and we're both so

441
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: analytical in that way that yeah, we're maybe we're too

442
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: good at expressing ourselves sometimes maybe maybe some more mystery

443
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: needs to be involved. You guys have been together for

444
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 1: a year and a half. I know, isn't that crazy?

445
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: That is crazy? Do you It's really flown by. It's

446
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: really flown by. But I guess the when you know,

447
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: when you're happy and things are good, it flies by.

448
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: Last question about your personal life, would you get married again? Sure? Yeah,

449
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm definitely not against it. Um, you know, I

450
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: did it, you know for a long time. I was

451
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: married the first time around for what seventeen or eighteen

452
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: years and had kids and it was more of the

453
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: traditional route. You know. My life as I'm older now

454
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: is a lot less traditional. Uh as far as the

455
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: need for marriage. You know, it's kind of like what

456
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: you and Jared are going through. It's you get married

457
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: and you want to have babies, and it's kind of

458
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: that traditional route. Well, I've done that. I've already been there,

459
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: so I don't have that net desire to like, oh

460
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: my god, I gotta get married so I can have

461
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 1: babies and create this family. Now, I just want to

462
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: be happy. I want you know, people in my life

463
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: and including you know l Z and people that surround

464
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: me that just make me happy and that I love dearly.

465
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Speaker 1: And so if that leads to marriage someday, great, It's

466
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: just you know, it's not the goal and it's not

467
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: the end all be all it used to be when

468
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: I was years old. All right, can you tell everybody

469
00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: about your tropical rose. It's got past fruit, dragon fruit,

470
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: and rose flavors, and it sounds like it's going to

471
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: be the new drink of paradise and the official drink

472
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: of everybody's Bachelor Watch parties on Monday. And also included

473
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: are the tears of Ashley. I thank you. That's really

474
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: the secret ingredient. I couldn't announce it until now, but

475
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: it's it is touch of rose, passion fruit, dragon fruit,

476
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: and tears of Ashley. Oh my goodness, is there a

477
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: Kelsey variety that would be amazing? Um? Now, this is

478
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 1: actually something I've been working on for about a year

479
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: with Seagram's Escapes, and this amazing collaboration. I went to Chicago,

480
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: created the taste myself and went through it, created the

481
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: packaging and the look and the color, and it is awesome.

482
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: And it's finally hitting the store shelves now and it

483
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: will continue to roll out, uh kind of over the

484
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: next month where it'll hit all of the big stores

485
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: across the country. But I am so fired up. It

486
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: is so good and the best part about it every

487
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: everyone I'm giving it to that have tasted it. That's

488
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: the first thing. I'm like, Wow, I really love this. Okay,

489
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: and it's only a hundred calories. I know, it's such

490
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: a low calorie drink. That's amazing. And I would be

491
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: so surprised if Roses in Rose, you know Lauren Zima's

492
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: et recap doesn't become Roses in Tropical Rose. I don't

493
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: want to have a spoiler alert, but you may or

494
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: may not see this on this week's Roses and Rose. Okay, amazing,

495
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: So we'll be looking at We'll be looking out for

496
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Speaker 1: your face which is on the box at the grocery store,

497
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: at the liquor store to get our tropical Rose. Yeah.

498
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: I know these these drinks are so popular right now,

499
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you I've tried them all and the

500
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: one we created is unbelievable. I think people are gonna

501
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: love it. I know you said tastes like my tears,

502
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: but does it also taste like paradise? It does taste

503
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: a little bit like paradise. I think it goes perfect

504
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: with your favorite Monday night shell for sure. Okay, I'm

505
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: not done asking you questions about your relationship. How did

506
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: you go from her interviewing you, because she's just like

507
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: the bachelor beat reporter there at e t to dating,

508
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: Like where did that crossover? Did you ask her out?

509
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: We did well, kind of yes and know everything, you know,

510
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: there was a little you know, I was when I

511
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: do interviews and maybe just like you do, you just

512
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: kind of go blank and you just put a wall

513
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: up and you're just doing a job. And so I

514
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: had never really actually noticed her for the couple of

515
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: years she had been interviewing me. But there was one

516
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: time when we had this great conversation. It was actually

517
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: during the Tell All Angles Becas season, and we just

518
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: ran into each other in the parking lot. I was

519
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: sitting outside and drinking my tea as I usually do,

520
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: and she came up and We had a pretty in

521
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: depth conversation, but it was more personal and it was

522
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't have microphones or cameras and we

523
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: were just talking. And it was really the first time

524
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: I noticed her and thought, Wow, this girl is She's bright,

525
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: she's smart, she's quick, she's funny, and she's really cute.

526
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: And so that led to she slid into my d

527
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: M s and and just said whatever about our conversation,

528
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: And then I asked her out, that's a cute You

529
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: guys on paper are so compatible that wit that you

530
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: both have, like I feel you can go back and

531
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: forth with She's, uh, she's is pretty amazing and and

532
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, we both were a little reluctant because of

533
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: her job and covering the show. But I mean it's

534
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: not like she's covering the White House. You know, she's

535
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: a she's an amazing journalist and she does a phenomenal

536
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: job and still does. But she also does a million

537
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: other things, you know, on top of the Bachelor. That's

538
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: just a small part of what she does at et UM.

539
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: And I love that she is a part of the Bachelor,

540
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: and I love hearing her take on things. You know,

541
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't share a lot about the show with her,

542
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: and so I like, I get to hear from not

543
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: only a fan, but a really good journalist of things

544
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: we're doing right, maybe things were doing wrong. She has

545
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 1: a great perspective of and it's been interesting to have

546
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: that part of her as well. How do you not

547
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: share with her the ending? Like she's truly unspoiled the

548
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: entire time. Yeah, I know some people think, oh, well,

549
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 1: she knows everything, but I don't. Interest My kids don't know.

550
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: I just I've I've been doing this right teen years,

551
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: and it's very simple. I just don't tell anybody. And

552
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: and I've always had that rule of if you just

553
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: clearly have this rule of nobody knows anything, then you

554
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: don't have to worry, and you're never gonna get tripped up,

555
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: and you're never gonna screw up, and um so, And honestly,

556
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: she tells me, I don't want to know. She likes

557
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: to approach it by watching the episodes and covering it

558
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: from a journalistic standpoint, And she tells me that it

559
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: would kind of ruin it if I told her everything.

560
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: She would approach her job differently and she wouldn't have

561
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: these great analytical insights and perspective of someone who's watching

562
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: it along with the rest of the world, and so um,

563
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: for those reasons, we just, you know, that's just something

564
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: we don't talk about. I mean, you know, I'll share

565
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: things about the show, about my life personally, working, but

566
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 1: when it comes to spoilers, she didn't want to know.

567
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I do feel like you do a better

568
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: job reporting on the show and you don't know anything.

569
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: That's why this season has been so much fun because

570
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: it is apparently spoiler free. And now that we are here,

571
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, two weeks to go, I can I am

572
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: surprised it's still spoiler free. I'm I'm surprised as well.

573
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: So that means that there is a conclusion. Is there

574
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: a conclusion? Uh, you know, either way, there's gonna be

575
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: a conclusion good, bad or ugly. Um, but you know it,

576
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: we'll see there's I mean, obviously there's been spoilers before,

577
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: there hasn't. Um, you know, look, I never get mad

578
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: if people talk about the show, and a lot of

579
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: the show is public now, um, you know, and even

580
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: you have three people at to Tell All the other night,

581
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: and you can go online and read who talks at

582
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: to Tell All? And all that. Now I wish people

583
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. It's disappointing that people wake up in

584
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: the morning or people live their life to try and

585
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: spoil other people's work. I mean, there are thousands of

586
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: people that work on this show and it is their livelihood.

587
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: And the fact that someone would actually live their life

588
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: to ruin that, to try and put them out of

589
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: business or screw up what they're doing is it's it's

590
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess it just never ceases to

591
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: amaze me that there's people in this world that are

592
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: like that. But there are, um you know, in any

593
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: walk of life. There's just any people who they live

594
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: to crap on what other people are doing. And you know,

595
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: whether you create a new show or you create some

596
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: art and someone will be the first to say, oh

597
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: you suck or this show is terrible or I hate

598
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, they just want to crap on on good

599
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: and they want to crap on people's work and their creativity.

600
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: But that's that's where we live in. Do you know

601
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: that of all the seasons that we've been doing this podcast,

602
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: which we're almost up to three years, every season that

603
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: I have been spoiled by has been from a fan

604
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: commenting under my Instagram or tuning at me the ending

605
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: and never me trying to seek out the ending, because

606
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: there's people, there's people that just I guess information makes

607
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: people feel powerful and it makes me feel like they

608
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: have worth. And by the way, if that's how you

609
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: get yourself worth, I would urge you to find something better. Um.

610
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: But you know, whatever gets you through the day. Um,

611
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it doesn't ruin our franchise,

612
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: it clearly, and it doesn't ruin our ratings. I think

613
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: you need to watch. And I also know that anything

614
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: on social media any spoilers. It is such a minority,

615
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: so very few people actually here or read any of

616
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: that garbage. UM. So at the end of the day,

617
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: most people are just watching the show for entertainment and escapism. Um.

618
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: And so hopefully it remains that for those people got you.

619
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: What about all the flag that you guys have been

620
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: getting about age. Do you think that you're going to

621
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: try to get an older Bachelor at next season to

622
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: bring the age up? Because I feel like a lot

623
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: of Bachelor Nation is blaming some of the caddy drama

624
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: and the lack of emphasis on a love story on age. Yeah,

625
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: I think that. You know, look, we always the show

626
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: will will always evmon flow and the pendelum will slang

627
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. But we we always sit

628
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: back and reflect on, Okay, what worked, what didn't, what

629
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: needs to change, And I think the age definitely will

630
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: be something we look at and it's something that I

631
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: think you have to pay attention to. Where are these

632
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: people in their life? Um, And a lot of that's

633
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: casting as well. You know, our casting department does a

634
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: great job, and sometimes it's just a matter of who

635
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: is in the pool at the time that we felt

636
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: was good and then all of a sudden, you know,

637
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: maybe we didn't look at Oh wait, all of them

638
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: are a lot younger than we normally have. We don't

639
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: have that great diversity as far as age because we

640
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: worry about so many other things as well now, so

641
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: it is it's not as easy as hey, let's just

642
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: make them older, because we also want really good people

643
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: that are you know, in line with what we're trying

644
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: to do. So but yeah, you know, the shortest short

645
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: answer is yeah, we'll definitely pay more attention to it,

646
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: and I think you'll see probably an older skewing uh

647
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: group of men and women as we head forward. It

648
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: has been an honor. Thank you so much for talking

649
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: with us. You spilled a lot of tea. You really did,

650
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: did I really? I think so. I think there's a

651
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: couple of headlines in there. Oh boy, that's great. I

652
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: think it's mostly about you and Lauren. That's the problem is.

653
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna wake up tomorrow and I see these headlines.

654
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn it. Why did I ever talk to as?

655
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: I love you? Thank you so much. Well, we'll see soon.

656
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: Sounds good. I'll talk to you later. Bye. Before we

657
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: get townly on the line, I have three bachelor headlines

658
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: this week. Bachelor in Paradise is Demi Burunette is kissing

659
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: a new guy. His name is Slater, you know, as

660
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: you broke up with Christian Haggardy in October, and now

661
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: she is kissing a new guy on our Instagram celebrating

662
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: her birthday with him. I guess they've been dating for

663
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: a while, and I guess this means that Demi will

664
00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: not be our next bachelorette. Bachelor Nations, Hannah god When

665
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: and Dylan Barber reveal their secrets to love after Paradise.

666
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: The couple says, I think we just effortlessly kind of

667
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: care for one another. Hannah says, I feel like we

668
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: don't really have arguments and we're like, Okay, if you're

669
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: struggling right now, let's talk through it. Or I don't

670
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: agree with this, but this is where my head's at.

671
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: We're both not argumentative people in general, so it works

672
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: nicely for a relationship because they're both very open minded

673
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: when it comes to different perspectives. Dylan also says, we're

674
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: comfortable with what we do and they need to be

675
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: in front of everything all the time, isn't there We

676
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: don't really care. I think he's talking about press, media,

677
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: the spotlight right there. All right, Well, they just had

678
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: their engagement party two nights ago, and I don't know

679
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: if that means that the wedding is starting to be

680
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: planned or they're just celebrating their engagement from June. But

681
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: we are very happy that Hannah and Dylan are going strong.

682
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: And then we have another Oh. I should have talked

683
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: to Chris about this. He apparently just trolled everyone with

684
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: a pick of Peter Weber and his producer Julie Polaca,

685
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: who is the woman that all those crazy internet rumors

686
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: and a rumor that Ben and I believed at one

687
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: point are about Julie was his producer, his main producers

688
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: throughout the entire season, and Um Harrison posted this picture.

689
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: You can go to his Instagram to see it. It's

690
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: them in an airport and Julie is right behind Peter

691
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: and he says, knowing nothing in life, but to be

692
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: legit new album cover came out great. So basically they're

693
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: pretending to be like a rap band. I don't know

694
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: how that's trolling everybody with the pick of Julie. It's

695
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: a picture of the production team. How is this trolling?

696
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: You guys? Stop looking into everything? So crazy? Okay, you

697
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: guys are looking into everything. He's not trolling, he's just

698
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: taking He's showing a picture Julie. He doesn't end up

699
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: with Julie. Okay, it's not gonna happen, all right, Let's

700
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: get teny on the line from a bachelor, Timley mold On, Hello, Hi,

701
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: it's so good to hear you. Have you changed your

702
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: name yet? Yes? I have so, I'm Timley Leopold, but

703
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: Instagram won't let me change it. Really, yes? Is that crazy?

704
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: That is? You and Taylor have been married for almost

705
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: two years now, correct? Are you so good? Is it so? Is?

706
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: It's still so good. It's awesome. We're having a great

707
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: time too. But I don't know where two years is gone.

708
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: That's the craziest. We've just celebrated living in our house

709
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: that we bought last year, one year in here, and

710
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: so everything is so good. That's awesome. Can you tell

711
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: everybody about what you told me what a whimsical attachment

712
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: is in paradise? Because I brought up that to the

713
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: girls at Women Tell All this week. I was like,

714
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: maybe Peter was your whimsical attachment, which means that you

715
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: have to go on and find somebody else who taught

716
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: like he taught you what you need to go find

717
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: in another man. I love that you still remember it. No,

718
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: I think that it's stuck with you in like a really,

719
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: really good way. But I was so wrong telling you

720
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: that about thought Karen. But I so badly that I

721
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: just have to go back before I explained it, um

722
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: because I was so wrong, and I'm so glad I

723
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: was wrong. But I think in the moment, like he

724
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: was what your heart was supposed to be fixated on.

725
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: But you were you were meant to both of you

726
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: go grow and do your own things so that you

727
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: could be what you are today. So congratulations on all

728
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: of that and everything. But now the whimsical attachment. So

729
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: I I myself had been fixated on you know, um

730
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: signs or like little things are like this is it,

731
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: this is everything, and had a really hard time getting

732
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: over um a guy because I just thought, but he

733
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: was everything. He was everything I been praying for. He's

734
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: everything I thought that I should have and um, but

735
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: I mean he really wasn't now in hindsight, but I

736
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: just couldn't let go. But I was learning so much

737
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: from this person. Um. And then it happened again, like

738
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: another another really great guy came along, and I was like, Okay,

739
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: you're everything and more than that guy and thought, um,

740
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: I gotta let go or I couldn't let go. But um,

741
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: then when I realized this is just a whimsical attachment,

742
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm just like whimsically um fast or like I'm

743
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: in love with the idea of this person versus um

744
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: like really like he's not my person, but I'm in

745
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: love with the idea of it. But it's just always

746
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: going to get greater from there. Like I said about

747
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 1: you and Jared. I was wrong, but it got greater

748
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: from there because you both were meant to have like

749
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: that growth time and really come together and learn like

750
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: that you were meant for each other. So yeah, So basically,

751
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: you find qualities in somebody that you never thought you wanted,

752
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: and then you learned from that person to go find

753
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: that quality in somebody else. Anyway, you guys, I thought

754
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: that I would just you don't bring that up with

755
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: Tony because it meant a lot to me at the time,

756
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: and I feel like it could mean a lot to

757
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: you girls out there who are single or with a

758
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: guy that you think like you want to be with

759
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: but he's not showing signs and he wants with you

760
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: or what not? What you know what I mean? Yeah,

761
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: just go ahead and uh put your heart into those

762
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 1: qualities of for sure, like setting your standards and then

763
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: not backing down once you've met some because I really

764
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: do believe there's always something greater than you can imagine.

765
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: So if it's not in the moment um, it could

766
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 1: very well be later on or just somebody very different

767
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: than he's even better for you. So hang on to

768
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: that hope. So you guys, um Tenley was on j

769
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: Pell Vacasies. My year was that well lastinutely filmed, but

770
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: two thou ten, so it's been like a decade and

771
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: the original pilot season, yes, the pilot season, but the

772
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: original of the pilots between Peter and Jake. Yeah, you

773
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: were runner up. You also did Bachelor pad and then

774
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: my season Bachelor in Paradise too. How do you feel

775
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: like the show has evolved since your time on it? UM, Well, obviously,

776
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I always hear you guys talking about

777
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: how like Crystal season, the season you were on, was

778
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: like the year you all came out and like had

779
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: really great um luck and response from social media, and

780
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: I agree with that, but it's weird because I think

781
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: it kind of like subtily was beginning um back in

782
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: two ves and ten. Um, Like I've I feel like

783
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: I've been so grateful to be working kind of on

784
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: the side with through Twitter and stuff and grow into Instagram.

785
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: But it's different, and I do think that that his

786
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: big comes a greater um, a greater difference for sure

787
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: over the last ten years of what somebody can get

788
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: out of the show, the recognition, the jobs that inst

789
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: the famous or whatever you want to call it um,

790
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: so that that is absolutely different UM. And I think

791
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to totally like it's hard for us

792
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: as viewers to even see that genuine pull because we're

793
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: all very aware of what can happen, um, and then

794
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: the storytelling is just different. UM. I think we we

795
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: always forget that that we do get a lot of

796
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: the drama up front, and then you start to get

797
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: to know the couple or the potential of the couple

798
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: and some of the girls a little bit closer. But

799
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: I feel like this year especially has been really hard

800
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: to see any bit of investment between Peter and the

801
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: girls and I and then some of me. Some of

802
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: that is I wonder if it has to do with

803
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: the genuine, in like approach to these people being a

804
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: part of the show. Does that make sense? Yeah, Oh,

805
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: it makes total sense. I feel like all of us

806
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: are pretty attached and see what he has with Madison.

807
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: I actually even think that we we see what he

808
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: has with Victoria, which is like a frenzy. I don't understand.

809
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: You don't mean I mean we see it though we

810
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: said that there's something, there's a connection, there's like an

811
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: intense pull towards each other to work it out, you know,

812
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: but I he's almost attracted to drama, right, yeah, or

813
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: he he loves the conflict. He almost likes conflict and

814
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: relationship because it keeps it interesting and even admits to that.

815
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: But I really, and I'm not. This is nothing against

816
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: Hannah Anne herself. I truly am not even I'm not

817
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: feeling their connection at all. Are you feeling it? No? No, no, no,

818
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: uh yeah no not at all. I feel like she's

819
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: she's kind of she's definitely, she's so beautiful, she's so sweet,

820
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: But I just feel like it's stale. I feel like

821
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: even there um there before the fantasy suite, there dinner portions,

822
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: by the way, just pointing out you probably noticed it.

823
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: Madison had this big, old, beautiful dinner set up and

824
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: both Victoria and Hannah, Hannah it was like no plates

825
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: on the table, no drinks, and like let's get to

826
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: the bedroom or like let's cut the budget here. I

827
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: don't know, but anyway, Hannah and just looked so there

828
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: was like this anxiousness, there was this like it just

829
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't easy. I know that you are a

830
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: very faithful woman. How do you feel that Madison is

831
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,959
Speaker 1: handling the no sex before marriage ultimatum. It was there

832
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: calling it okay, I have so much to say about this,

833
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: so please cut me off or jump in or what No, Okay,

834
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: we'll see where it goes. I've been thinking about it

835
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: a lot, but um one, I feel like she kind

836
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: of lost her confidence with Peter because she wasn't necessarily

837
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: straight up with telling him um that she like, she

838
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: wasn't straight up. She didn't come out and say, hey,

839
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for marriage. Yo. Girl. We had Harrison on

840
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: before you came on and he was said the same thing.

841
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: He was like. We were like, okay, yeah, this is

842
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: your time. Go talk to him after the Rose ceremony,

843
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: tell him everything. And she didn't tell him that, and

844
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: that was so critical to be honest critical. I mean,

845
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to say that

846
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: Peter messed up here. He should never have to assume anything.

847
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: But if I were him, I would have been like, Okay,

848
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: she's twenty three, she's expressed her faith, she's talking about

849
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: me about this. I would put the things together and

850
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: be like, she's probably a virgin, and I would probably

851
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: ask right, but maybe he I mean because Hannah was

852
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: a woman of faith but had no problem in you know, like,

853
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: so I feel like it's really so yeah. So first

854
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: of all, she lost her confidence and just didn't tell him,

855
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: and I think that would have been so much easier

856
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: for him to understand her heart. And really, as I

857
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: was watching, because I don't think it's an ultimatum that

858
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: she's offering, which so they can keep calling it that,

859
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: but I think more of what she was thinking is, dude,

860
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: if you if I'm your girl, then you're not going

861
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: to have a problem not having sex with these other women,

862
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: because that's how her mind thinks. Yes, well, so with

863
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: the whole like Luke and Hannah, we do not need

864
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: to talk about that. As I was watching that back

865
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: last year, I was like, I never asked Jake like

866
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: if he was having sex with other people in the

867
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: Dynasy suite, because with the conversations we had alone, I

868
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: was led to believe that we were completely in stinc

869
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: um with the way that we thought, the way that

870
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: our faith was, and that was just what Jake had

871
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: shared with me, and so I assumed that we were

872
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: going to be on the same page and I never

873
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: even brought it up. I never said sorry, having sex

874
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 1: with RG or whatever, and um, I never even thought

875
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: to think about it. And then later when I watched

876
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: the shows, like, I'm glad I didn't end up with

877
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: this guy because it was different. But like, I think

878
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: you can hand it that the conversation didn't go well,

879
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: but I get why he asked, and I feel like

880
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: Madison was just trying to say, hey, like, so these

881
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: are my personal standards. I would love it if you

882
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: If I'm your girl, you don't need anybody else. You

883
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: don't need to test the waters if that's what you're doing. Um,

884
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: you don't need a fun romp like with these other

885
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: girls because I'm your girl. Based on the conversating based

886
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: on the conversation that he has during the dinner portion

887
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: of their fantasy suitet day, which we don't know what

888
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: it leads to because it gets cut off at dinner

889
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: in this episode, but during that conversation, he makes it

890
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: seem like he really wasn't sure who he was going

891
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: to pick and that's why he decided to go with it.

892
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: So what you think that, Yeah, you think that you

893
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: just thought it was gonna be a fun, fun time.

894
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: I watched I watched it with my husband and who

895
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: has the same values as me, like and going into

896
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: marriage and everything. And he was like, oh, he just

897
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: he missed it. He didn't, he wasn't he wasn't thinking

898
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: about Madison. He but it wasn't that he was thinking

899
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: this is just what we thought like that. It wasn't

900
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: that he was confused about who he was choosing. It

901
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: seems like he adores Madison. You can kind of tell

902
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: in that, like with the whole setup, like her dinner

903
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: was candlelit and they did everything for the table. They

904
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: made it look so special, and um, the other girls

905
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: really didn't have that, And so he just kind of

906
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: phil led to believe that he's pretty into Madison. She's

907
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: the one, and that he he just kind of was

908
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: going for it because that's what you do in the

909
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: fantasy sweeps, and the other girls didn't have those boundaries,

910
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: so why not, Like I feel like you just kind

911
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: of got lost in the moment, as I think it's

912
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: really easy to do if you if that's just not

913
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: if that's how you will know you're right. When Jared

914
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: and I were watching it, he was like, oh, dude,

915
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: why could you not is keeping in your pants the

916
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: other two dates? But then how could he not like

917
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: how I'm just I'm thinking that the only way he

918
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: did that and didn't keep it in his pants is

919
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: because he really was confused and didn't know who's going

920
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: to pick. But if he really just totally disregarded what

921
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:24,479
Speaker 1: she asked him, mind boggle. But but I don't feel

922
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: like she really I don't think she gave it. That's

923
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: the other thing. I feel like it falls into Madison

924
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: and her losing her confidence in front of him in

925
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: whatnot saying Hey, I'm waiting, I'm saving myself for marriage.

926
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: In that moment at the hangar um after the road ceremony,

927
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: when she had that open door to say, give either

928
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: my standards. This is where I'm not. I haven't I

929
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: am a virgin, and um, I don't necessarily have these

930
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: expectations of you. But I think that if we were,

931
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: but this is what you should know, and he would

932
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: have had a completely different perspective going into the fantasy

933
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: sweet dates with the other girls. I think he I

934
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: really think he would have been thinking more of Addison

935
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: in that way versus she just doesn't want me to

936
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: do with these other girls, which totally makes sense. No

937
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: girl wants that. No girl wants to be back to

938
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: back like in anything, and so I do feel like

939
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: she kind of missed that door fatal flawf not telling

940
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: him she was a virgin up fronts. All right, Tenley,

941
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: thank you so much for all your thoughts and for

942
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: coming on the podcast. I really appreciate you to talk

943
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: to you soon. I'll talk to you soon. Thank you.

944
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: By all right, guys, let's take a break, and then

945
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: we're going to surprise the American Idol contestant. Before we

946
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: surprise this idle contestant, I want you guys to get

947
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: some context. So Mark is going to play the clip

948
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: of Ryan Seacrest talking to Megan and her expressing her

949
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: love for Ben Higgins's did you Peter the Pilot? Did

950
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: you like? I love Peter the Pilot. I'm excited for him,

951
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: but Ben Higgins is my favorite. Then Higgins is dreaming

952
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: born to be the Bachelor. Oh the cross promotion babies,

953
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: she loves it. Alright, should we get her on the phone? Mark?

954
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: Are you ready? I'm ready? And she's on hold. We

955
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: have to have been on home, so you got to

956
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: wait and get every all of our duction use I'm

957
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: gonna say, how do you like this? Actually ill said Hi.

958
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm with HI Radio. It's nice to meet you. Congratulations

959
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: on going to Hollywood. That's great. Oh. You know what,

960
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: before I ask you any questions, there is somebody on

961
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: the line who wants to talk to you. Okay, okay, good, right, okay,

962
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: we go. Hi Megan, Hi, Hi Megan. It's Mark with

963
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: II Hour Radio. How are you good? How are you good?

964
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: Thank you? I'm so sorry to keep you on hold

965
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: there for a few minutes. Um, do you have a

966
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: second here? Yeah, okay, great, we have a few questions

967
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: for you. But you know what, actually, before I ask

968
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: you any questions, there's somebody else here who wants to

969
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,959
Speaker 1: say hi to you. Okay, are you Megan? It's been here.

970
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: How are you doing? Wait? No, no, no, no, no

971
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: at all? Oh my god, what how are you doing? Megan?

972
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: Congratulations on everything. I I'm super pumped to be talking

973
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: to you. You don't understand. My heart is just elevated

974
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: so much. It's just a joke, right, Oh, I definitely

975
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 1: not a joke. I would recognize the voice anywhere, Megan.

976
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: You are on the Benn and Nashley almost famous podcasts. No,

977
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm oh my god, stop stop dopp you're joking. Oh

978
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: my god, Oh Dag and uh we are. We are

979
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: huge fans of you. Uh, you have blown up. Oh

980
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: of course, I've gotten so many videos sent to me.

981
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: Ashley and I were so excited to talk to you today.

982
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: Congratulations on everything so far. We had to get you

983
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: on the podcast making because I'm not kidding. I've gotten

984
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: more text and more emails and more messages in the

985
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: last twenty four hours and any other time in my life.

986
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh my, I'm guys, I'm featless and that does not

987
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,479
Speaker 1: happen to me. Oh my god. Well, I'm so glad

988
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,479
Speaker 1: that you saw the cliffs. Clearly, I'm a big fan

989
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: of both of you. Yeah, I'm sorry actually that you

990
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: didn't get a little montage within my Uh it's okay,

991
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: we suff Oh my god, this is crazy. So what

992
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: do you think about this season? You want to give

993
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: us a little bit of your thoughts? Absolutely, absolutely, Okay.

994
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for some girl to to come through for me,

995
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: because I'm not crazy about anyone right now. If I'm

996
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: gonna pull for anyone, it's gonna be Madison. Um. But

997
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: I'm honestly up for some Hannaby drama. I want her

998
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: to enter. I wanted her to enter from the Star

999
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: I to here to go back in the house. Hannah

1000
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: By is my favorite bachelorette UM and I'm i'm I

1001
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 1: love her and I thought Peter was gonna win last season,

1002
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: and then he didn't. I was really surprised. I think

1003
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: she regrets it. I think he does well. I think

1004
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: does Megan. We gotta ask you, though, I mean, so

1005
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: you have your own podcast, give us a little give

1006
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: it a little shout out here on the almost Famous podcast.

1007
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: But then also if you if you really believe that

1008
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: Hannah By could step up and be the Bachelorette again,

1009
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: can you give her a sales pitch because at this point,

1010
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: I believe, at the beginning of the season, I'm not

1011
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: believing it anymore that she is the best choice for Bachelorette.

1012
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: Who do you think is the best choice? I mean,

1013
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: if Maddie doesn't get chosen, I think it has to

1014
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: be Maddie. If Maddie does get chosen, then I think

1015
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: reaching back into like the Tassia's TIA's that world. I

1016
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: would love Pia. Oh. I was such a big fan

1017
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: of person um. But yeah, that's that's a definitely good

1018
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: a good, good choices, good choices. Um, I don't know.

1019
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: I think hannahby she's just like been through it and

1020
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: I want her to I want her to go to

1021
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: rise up. I want like I love story for her.

1022
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: So you do want her to be the Bachelorette again? Well,

1023
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: that would be like my sales pitch, except for I

1024
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: don't think she's going to be, you know, I because

1025
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: she added more dates to her dancing with the Star

1026
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: Wars store and it would happen during I mean, here's

1027
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: the thing though, and I think we're touching on something

1028
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: that most people we talked to our feeling and including

1029
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: Ashley and I. We had high hopes for Peter. I

1030
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: still like Peter, actually still likes Peter as a person,

1031
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: but this season it's just kind of missed it for us,

1032
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: Like there's been very little attachment to it. Are you

1033
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: feeling that way, Yes, definitely feeling that way. I still

1034
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: I had really high hopes for Peter, to be honest,

1035
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: then I saw a lot of qualities that you possess

1036
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: in Peter, so I was excited for him. I was like,

1037
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: all right, he's gonna up up to the plate um.

1038
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: But it's it's been a little different. He's made some

1039
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: questionable choices, which I know you guys have talked about

1040
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: on the podcast. Um so it's been a little different.

1041
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm not attached to any girls like I usually am

1042
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: in this season. Um so I'm really interested to find out,

1043
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: especially tonight. Chris Harrison made an interesting post that tonight

1044
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: when like the real the real story starts so on

1045
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: the podcast. Yeah, so I'm very interested to see what

1046
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: goes down in this top three. Um and yeah, and

1047
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: what unfold. There's just like Colton season, there's gonna be

1048
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: a bomb dropped at the very end, and I have

1049
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: no idea what's going to happen. Well, Megan, I know

1050
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: you live in Brooklyn, New York. Uh, do me a

1051
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: favor if if you have the chance, please come say

1052
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: hi to meet when we come through town for the

1053
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: Bachelorive on stage. After this call, I'll have somebody from

1054
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: my heart reach out and get you some tickets, and

1055
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: then please come say hi and hang out with me

1056
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: before the show. Is that okay? That would make all

1057
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: of my dreams come true. I would absolutely love it.

1058
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: It would be a blast. Uh, Megan, before we go,

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Speaker 1: please promote anything you're a part of, right now, including

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Speaker 1: American Idol and also your podcast. Tell our listeners where

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Speaker 1: they can find you. Yeah, sure, um so my podcast,

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Speaker 1: that's a very generous word to call it. I just

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Speaker 1: call him a little recap there on my sound cloud.

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Speaker 1: Um under, I watched The Bachelor and you don't care.

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Speaker 1: That is the name of it. Little recap by Megan.

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Speaker 1: Um and then I'm currently yes in Brooklyn and um

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Speaker 1: just gigging around. I'm actually releasing an EP a month

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Speaker 1: from today, March. It's called all Over the Place. Um

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Speaker 1: so check that out. It'll be on Spotify and all

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Speaker 1: of the streaming services. But just keep up with me

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Speaker 1: through my Instagram, which is Megan fit In m E

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Speaker 1: G h N Megan and F I T T O

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Speaker 1: N awesome. Thanks Megan. Well, hey, Ashley and I love

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Speaker 1: American Idol. We're a big fan of. Oh my gosh, Megan,

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Speaker 1: everything I should tell you before you leave. I used

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Speaker 1: to have a heart Idle on my license plate. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god. I was obsessed. I used to paint my

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Speaker 1: car every finale with who I voted for, and I

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Speaker 1: would say vote like for example, I can see in

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Speaker 1: my head I was like vote Blake. Even though I

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Speaker 1: love Jordan Sparks. So it was vote Blake and then

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Speaker 1: I had the number to dial to vote and now

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Speaker 1: I recorded Ryan Seacres Studio. It's very cool. That amazing

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Speaker 1: thing I've ever heard. That's gonna say. It's pretty on brand.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know you personally, but it sounds pretty astley.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. It's very true to me. Hey, thank you

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Speaker 1: for being a guest in the almost famous podcast. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. We're rooting for you. And please, please please

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Speaker 1: come see The Bachelor live on stage we come through

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Speaker 1: New York. I will be there and thank you for

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Speaker 1: literally the best surprise of my life. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to top this, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: You're very sweet. Thanks Began. Hey, bet right bye, Ben.

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Speaker 1: While we still have you on the line, I just

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Speaker 1: want to ask you how the past week has been

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Speaker 1: for you wild Actually, we've had a big week. We've

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Speaker 1: gone through just listen to it. So in the last

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Speaker 1: eight days, we've been in Mesa, Reno, Santa Rosa, San jose, A,

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Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Modesto, Cheyenne, and Denver, and now I

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Speaker 1: find myself in Tucson, Arizona. Actually I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you've heard this or not. I'll send you a video here.

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Speaker 1: In a set get in Salt Lake City, I was

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Speaker 1: on stage and during one of the dancing numbers, I

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Speaker 1: went and stepped in my knee completely dislocated in front

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Speaker 1: of the docket in two different places on stage, and

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Speaker 1: I had to hobble off pop it back end. I'll

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Speaker 1: show you. I'll show you the video. It is. It

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Speaker 1: is nasty. Popped it back in yourself, your knee. That

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Speaker 1: sounds like something that a doctor we need to handle.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty gross, but hey, the show must go on.

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Speaker 1: We are having a good time here on the road.

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Speaker 1: But we are definitely on the road. I'm I did

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Speaker 1: not expect. I mean, yeah, we've been up and down

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Speaker 1: this country already, but we're having a great, a great time.

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Speaker 1: Vachel Nation has responded really well. Um but uh, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of work. Hey, but I'm happy

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Speaker 1: to be talking to you. Actually, Uh, continue just to

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Speaker 1: h to carry this podcast because I appreciate it. You

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Speaker 1: know you sound just fine. Now. It could have had

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Speaker 1: you on the entire episode. I know, I know, Um,

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Speaker 1: but U yeah, what a fun time talking to Megan.

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Speaker 1: I got the New it's on the rundown with Chris

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Speaker 1: what an interview. Uh, that's some that's some juicy stuff.

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Speaker 1: And uh and Ashley, Uh yeah, I'm just really proud

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Speaker 1: of you. Thank you. I'm proud of you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just don't know how you're doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be mind Bible to buy it forever. Uh,

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Speaker 1: You're the best. Ash Well, Hey, is this the end

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Speaker 1: of the podcast now? Yeah? It is, so we can

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Speaker 1: sign off the way we know it only would this

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Speaker 1: feels nice. I needed this this week, act. I needed

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Speaker 1: to hear your voice. Hi. I have another co host

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Speaker 1: on stage, but Ashley, you're my first co host and

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Speaker 1: I missed your voice. So with that, I've been there

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Speaker 1: as bye, guys, Fanks too much. Follow the Benn and

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Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe

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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts.