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Speaker 1: a very special guest from WKRN News Too for forty

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Speaker 1: three years, Bob Mueller.

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Speaker 2: Nice to see him, Mike. Thank you for asking me

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Speaker 2: to be part of this. This is exciting.

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Speaker 1: How's to doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: I remember the first time I met you January two thousand, Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: uh huh, Planet Hollywood, the Monday before Super Bowl thirty four,

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Speaker 1: and it's one. I have a lot of memories of

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Speaker 1: that week. Ice storm, the ice storm, all of it,

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Speaker 1: but I'll never forget. John Dwyer asked me to be

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Speaker 1: on the program you guys were doing down there, and

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Speaker 1: I walk outside and there's Bob Mueller, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what's Bob Bueller doing here? And so I knew it

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Speaker 1: was a big deal.

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Speaker 2: Ben. I was on the road a month that year

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Speaker 2: because obviously that was you know, the magical year of

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine. We did a special outside of Nissans

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Speaker 2: to Adelphia Coliseum that turned into the Music City miracle.

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Speaker 2: We moved to Indianapolis, broadcasting out in the snow and

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Speaker 2: and Peyton manning false start. Then we flew to Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: post game in a pouring rain on the field in

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville with one light, me and John Dwyer. They turned

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Speaker 2: rain with one cleag lanlight on us for an hour.

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Speaker 2: We finish our show soaking wet, have to run to

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Speaker 2: we're there for a week. That was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: That was a wild twenty two days, which was.

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Speaker 2: An unbelievable time.

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Speaker 1: So how did they you're on the news side, how

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Speaker 1: did they get you involved in all of that?

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Speaker 2: We were doing a lot of the who's coming to

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Speaker 2: Where are some of the charity money going to. We

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Speaker 2: did a lot of stuff with kids in the in

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Speaker 2: the NFL zone. We did kind of the outside of

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Speaker 2: sports aspect of how this Super Bowl and how this

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Speaker 2: during this run.

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Speaker 1: The Indianapolis thing, as we go there this week, I

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Speaker 1: think is the forgotten part of the trip. Because everyone

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Speaker 1: remembers the Music City Miracle game, everyone remembers Jacksonville, everyone

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Speaker 1: remembers the super Bowl. But the Indianapolis thing was really

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Speaker 1: a wild deal because when we arrived Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Nine's everywhere, everywhere, everywhere.

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Speaker 1: And I mean it was shocking.

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Speaker 2: Once think and his white white coat coming in and

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Speaker 2: you did the game. The stadium was filled with more

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Speaker 1: They did at their own state. They had to take

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Speaker 1: was an incredible experience. You and I have something in common.

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Speaker 1: We both moved here from Chattanooga, Yes, and I remember

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Speaker 1: when we moved here, I knew Nashville was the state capitol,

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Speaker 2: Moved, exact same impression. The reason I wanted to come here,

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Speaker 2: I was really into politics, and obviously, being the state capitol,

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Speaker 1: But you could certainly understand that twenty two day period

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Speaker 2: Well, and Mike, you know this too. There's Nashville before

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Speaker 2: then you know, the miracle happens that the Oilers want

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Speaker 2: Before that is not even close to what we're seeing now.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I want to mention Duncan here real

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Speaker 1: quick because we're doing the OTP and it's always game

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Speaker 1: on with Duncan. So grab a coffee and kick off

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Speaker 1: the action, whether that's drinking a cup of coffee on

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Speaker 1: to help you get your game on, just like the pros,

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Speaker 1: like Bob Muller, we need to be at our best

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Speaker 1: come game time, which is why Duncan is the most

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Speaker 1: important part of your game day ritual because it's always

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Speaker 1: the best call for football America runs on Duncan. Bob Mueller, Yes,

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Speaker 1: where were you when the Music City miracle happened?

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Speaker 2: Well, I could all three hundred thousand people that were

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Speaker 2: Titans and the Progresses. And with sixteen seconds left, Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Everybody in our suite, everybody in the other suite are

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Speaker 1: He was Bud Adams. You saw him.

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Speaker 2: I was there. He was not in say had left.

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Speaker 1: He was headed out.

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Speaker 2: They were heading out of the suite before the kickoff

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Speaker 2: that turned into the Music City Miracle. They got back

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Speaker 1: You have given the OT people something they didn't know.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's I love telling that story.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So as as somebody who spent his life in

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Speaker 1: did you realize at that moment the significance of what

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Speaker 2: No, No, you know, I don't know anything about what's

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Speaker 2: this which win means just it just means, Okay, you're

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Speaker 2: it mean for the city of Nashville. No, I don't

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Speaker 2: think anybody understood how that game, how that the Music

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Speaker 2: to be remembered for it. It's been played a thousand

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Speaker 2: times and your call is fantastic. You and Pat Bryan

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Speaker 2: I think as the years have progressed, we've realized what

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Speaker 2: that what that one play meant to this city.

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Speaker 1: Wow, when did you know you were going to Indianapolis?

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Speaker 2: Well, we knew. We had planned before the playoff, before

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Speaker 2: We did our show. Me and John Dwyer. You know,

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Speaker 2: the Sunday was a Sunday or Saturday game. I can't

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Speaker 1: The Buffalo game was Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I thought Saturday game. And then we did that game.

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Speaker 2: We win, we do our post show and we're off

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Speaker 2: We're broadcasting in the snow outside. You know, it was

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Speaker 2: our postgame. Me and dwy are just looking at each

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Speaker 2: and you can't beat Jacksonville three times in a row.

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Speaker 2: You just can't happen. And they were so cocky, their

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Speaker 2: the owners and the coaches and Jeff Fisher and everybody.

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Speaker 2: People are in tears, and it was just a feeling

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Speaker 2: of like, these guys have really accomplished something. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: It made me so happy because I'll never forget all

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Speaker 1: the people who had worked for the Oilers, who had

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Speaker 1: been close in the late seventies and early eighties. The

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Speaker 1: Steelers kept them out of two super Bowls, and then

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Speaker 2: Thing like it. I'd have to talk to other people

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Speaker 2: But yeah, and liked being the leader of the team.

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Speaker 1: All right. I got to read this for our friends

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Speaker 1: you probably go back to your start seeing a guy

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Speaker 1: do live, good stuff, good stuff. All right. So I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you this week with Bob Mueller. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks on Sundays? How long has that been on?

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Speaker 2: I started that show in two thousand and six. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So there was a big Senate race Bob Corker and

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Speaker 2: Harold Ford Junior, and that was the start of the show.

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Speaker 2: I had done one in the eighties and nineties for

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Speaker 2: a while, but that one's been going on since two

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Speaker 2: thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: Very good show. Thank you, especially if you're a political

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Speaker 1: science graduate like I. Thank you so well done.

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Speaker 2: I think it's important, not just as my show. I

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Speaker 2: think it's I think that people of a community want

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Speaker 2: to hear from their elected officials, and there are not

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Speaker 2: enough venues, and that's why I do it. I think

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Speaker 2: it's important for people to hear the folks who they

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Speaker 2: vote for, who they vote against, their opinions, what they're

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Speaker 2: doing for their constituents, what they're doing for the community. Well,

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Speaker 2: they're not doing for the community, and that that's really

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Speaker 2: why I do it.

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Speaker 1: And it's often forgotten too that there is a public

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Speaker 1: service aspect and responsibility with a radio station or a

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Speaker 1: television station, and a lot of our great Titans radio

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Speaker 1: stations have those sorts of programs, and I hope it'll

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Speaker 1: always contend well.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. It's kind of my baby. I write it,

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Speaker 2: produce it, book the guests to do it all.

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Speaker 1: It's really good. It is really really well done as

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Speaker 1: that guy. What was a bigger accomplishment for the organization

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Speaker 1: getting the first stadium deal done or getting the second

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Speaker 1: stadium deal done?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I think the second stadium did really I do

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Speaker 2: you know. I know I was here during you know,

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Speaker 2: the vote that was going to happen. It was never

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Speaker 2: not going to pass. That was not going to happen.

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Speaker 2: They were not going to deny an NFL franchise to

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Speaker 2: come to Nashville. I was never afraid of that. I

485
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Speaker 2: know that there was a lot of folks that spent

486
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Speaker 2: a lot of time campaigning, and if you look at

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Speaker 2: the result, I mean didn't blew it out. It was

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Speaker 2: a big win. I think this is difficult. Was more

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Speaker 2: difficult because the political aspect of the country has changed

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Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety eight. So I think that's why it

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Speaker 2: was more difficult. That and two hundred and eighty five

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Speaker 2: million as opposed to two point one billion is a

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Speaker 2: big difference. But I think the positive that didn't happen

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Speaker 2: for whatever reason with the Titan Stadium that's there currently

495
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Speaker 2: is that this is not just the stadium. This is

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Speaker 2: River North Oracle, what the city's going to. This is

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Speaker 2: East Bank will be unrecognizable. In five years, there's going

498
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Speaker 2: to be a whole new community, walking bridges, maybe a

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Speaker 2: marina parks. This isn't just about the Titan Stadium this time.

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Speaker 2: This is about a whole development of public public, private

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Speaker 2: moneies that are coming in there that's going to transform

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Speaker 2: the city. That's why I think it's more important and

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Speaker 2: was harder than the first one.

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Speaker 1: Well, the other aspect of it too, is in the

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Speaker 1: first one, Nashville had no leverage. No they they the

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Speaker 1: year had to do it or they didn't. And this

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Speaker 1: time around it was said, let's change how Metro's portion

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Speaker 1: of this is going to be paid for it.

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Speaker 2: I think that was fair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with the hotel motel and with you know, the

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Speaker 1: sales tax issues around there, and to see, you know,

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Speaker 1: what this place is going to be is exciting. I'm

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Speaker 1: thrilled it's staying in the same footprint too, because I

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Speaker 1: love that we have the stadium where we do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you can't, but I think where the

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Speaker 2: stadium is now is actually a better site than where

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Speaker 2: the new one's gonna be. I think love looking over

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Speaker 2: the river now. I know you can't just tear it

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Speaker 2: down a bill because you've got to play somewhere. But

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be gorgeous. It's gonna I think that if

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Speaker 2: it comes out like the renditions are, people are going

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Speaker 2: to love this thing. And I was rooting for a

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Speaker 2: retractable roof because I think I think the the temperatures

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Speaker 2: and the and the climate here are perfect for it.

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Speaker 2: But we've got translucent and there's going to be open

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Speaker 2: on the sides of it, so I think we're close

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Speaker 2: to being able. It's going to feel outdoor.

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Speaker 1: I think we were all for retractable, but when they

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Speaker 1: did the research saying how rarely you use it, I

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Speaker 1: mean just.

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Speaker 2: For the cost, like a half a billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: Crazy, Yeah, it's crazy. Do you know that they could

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Speaker 1: have done a retractable roof on Arrowhead in nineteen seventy

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Speaker 1: one for twenty five million dollars And it was crazy

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Speaker 1: at the time. There was a roof they could have

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Speaker 1: slid back and forth between the baseball stadium and the

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Speaker 1: football stadium and so there you know, there actually been

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Speaker 1: designs in this way. And we're going to go to

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis this weekend. Who knows whether they'll have the roof

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Speaker 1: open or not.

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Speaker 2: And it's a process. They got to kind of decide

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Speaker 2: to do it, and it takes a while to get

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Speaker 2: it open.

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Speaker 1: So the thing that I'm I'm excited about a lot

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Speaker 1: of things about the new stadium, but the terraces too.

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Speaker 1: That's going to give Bob Mueller the chance to look

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Speaker 1: over downtown and look over the rear.

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Speaker 2: Are Are you surprised? And I know it's because partially

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Speaker 2: because of the footprint that it's actually gonna be a

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Speaker 2: little smaller than the Sun Stadium.

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Speaker 1: No, No, not at all. The design. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think the league's I don't think mantra is not right, but.

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Speaker 2: Sort of a lot smaller, but a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Well, they wanted to go fifty five and the Titans do.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't go to fifty five. We had to stay

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Speaker 1: in the sixties. But what's happened, Bob is the change

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Speaker 1: in the public's feeling about like the upper deck yep.

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Speaker 1: And that's why you're going to see the upper deck

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Speaker 1: be at least in part, sort of the party deck

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Speaker 1: where people can hang out. People have changed how they

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Speaker 1: use tickets, how they use the stadium, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's going to be fun because my kids would certainly

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Speaker 1: buy a ticket on the party deck and stand there

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Speaker 1: with their friends and eat the food and drink the

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Speaker 1: drink and go out on the terrace tracks.

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Speaker 2: A different audience.

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Speaker 1: It attracts a different audience. And you know, Burkenye Hill

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Speaker 1: has said it consistently, and that is we have to

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Speaker 1: give fifteen, sixteen, seventeen different experiences. We're now at Nissan Stadium.

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Speaker 1: You get about four and that's that's life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, I'm looking forward to it's going to be.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be an experienced when that stadium is

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Speaker 2: up and running.

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Speaker 1: This has been an experience to have you here. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for doing this. And I was thinking about anybody who

576
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Speaker 1: follows you on any of your socials or.

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Speaker 2: Oh me on my boat and my ski, Well we know.

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Speaker 1: I mean you were an active guy, You were an

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Speaker 1: athlete growing up, and so getting has to talk sports

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Speaker 1: for the news guys kind of probably love.

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Speaker 2: You know. When I was in college, like I said,

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Speaker 2: I tried to play some baseball. Wasn't quite good enough,

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Speaker 2: but I did get to do play by play for

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Speaker 2: baseball for football and kind of soccer and basketball. And

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Speaker 2: I absolutely am envious of you. I think it's why

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Speaker 2: did you give it up? I think it's the most

587
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Speaker 2: fun because in the seventies when I was graduating and

588
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Speaker 2: getting in, it was when they first started hiring people

589
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Speaker 2: that were former athletes, and that's it was a big trend,

590
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Speaker 2: and they weren't really that everybody was kind of going

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Speaker 2: in that route. So I went to new and I

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Speaker 2: love news. I'm a big news guy. But by far

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Speaker 2: of everything I've done, the years I was in college

594
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Speaker 2: doing baseball play by play were the most fun I

595
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Speaker 2: ever had. I loved doing baseball play by.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty great.

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Speaker 2: It's so much fun sitting in the stands doing play

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Speaker 2: by play.

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Speaker 1: Well, you go to the park, you stand around during

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Speaker 1: BP and you talking to the to the manager or

601
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Speaker 1: whoever you're talking to the guy. I mean, it's just

602
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Speaker 1: it is the leisurely game that when it goes in

603
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Speaker 1: the seventh or eighth thing, when it really goes, it's

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Speaker 1: very exciting.

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Speaker 2: And baseball, to me, is the hard sport. You've got

606
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Speaker 2: to be a storyteller. You to be really hard good

607
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Speaker 2: baseball announcer. It is there's a lot of downtime and

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Speaker 2: you don't want to You don't just fill it with stats,

609
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Speaker 2: need to fill it with personality. You need to fill

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Speaker 2: it with something that's going to keep an audience well.

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Speaker 1: And the part of it too, that's very complicated in

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Speaker 1: calling baseball is you're you're talking about the hot dog

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Speaker 1: you eate and the experience you have, and then a

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Speaker 1: guy hits one in the gap and you go from slow, slow,

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Speaker 1: slow to really fast and it's a it's hard to

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Speaker 1: keep up that pace and keep up with everything. But

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Speaker 1: the guys who do it well, they're the best.

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Speaker 2: I was a big Jack Buck fan. Jack Buck and

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Speaker 2: Harry Carey in the day Jack Bucks book at my

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Speaker 2: high school senior football graduation Bankwood, I got a picture

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Speaker 2: with him when I'm seventeen years old. It was you know,

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Speaker 2: he was my hero. He was such a good announcer.

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Speaker 1: I know he and Harry were together, but he and

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Speaker 1: Mike Shannon yep, oh, yep, Mike. You know. I remember

625
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Speaker 1: we went to Atlanta to a game in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: two and bucking Shannon. You know, one of the big

627
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Speaker 1: reasons I wanted to go is I wanted to see

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Speaker 1: them in the booth. So I brought my binoculars and

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Speaker 1: by the second inning it was filled with smoke and

630
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Speaker 1: we could see the beer cooler. I mean they were

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Speaker 1: old school man. They were working on some Marboroughs and

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Speaker 1: at some bud Why.

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Speaker 2: It was a different time.

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Speaker 1: It was a different time man. Thank you for doing

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Speaker 1: this absolutely, thank you for joining the Snickers hot seat.

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Speaker 1: You go there, you go, Bob Mueller news to forty

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Speaker 1: three years. Congratulations on a great career.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you come back and do this again. I'd

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Speaker 2: love to thanks for the invitation, all right.

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Speaker 1: For Bob Mueller, I'm Mike Keith, thanking you for joining

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Speaker 1: us for the Oh Team. Peete,