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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, these squirrels

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Speaker 1: are nuts, giant flying squirrels, rainbow squirrels, and goth squirrels.

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Speaker 1: Squirrel over this and more as we answer the age

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Speaker 1: old question, is that dried squirrel p or using as

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Speaker 1: an acrodisiac? Or are you just happy to see me?

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Speaker 1: Joining me today is writer, director, friend of the show,

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Speaker 1: and squirrel man Adam Ganzer. Okay, I'm proud of all

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Speaker 1: those titles, every one of those titles. Yeah, Squirrelman, Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: My Twitter are teasingal Squirrelman. Yeah yeah. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: just thought we should probably have an episode on squirrels,

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Speaker 1: and here it is. I could not dis agree harder

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Speaker 1: I could. I agree fully with you on this, right right,

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Speaker 1: Usually I've tried to tailor the episode to sort of

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Speaker 1: my guests likes dislikes. Um, this time, I just kind

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Speaker 1: of made the executive decision for it to just be squirrels. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how you feel about it, squirrel, but

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Speaker 1: this one's full nut right at you, right, full nut,

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Speaker 1: full frontal squirrel nut. I mean actually literally one of

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Speaker 1: the photos in the photo doc. But uh, yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about squirrels. I think that people have a

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Speaker 1: certain concept of the titular squirrel, of little little thing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's gray, maybe it's sort of a reddish color,

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Speaker 1: and it's got that fluffy tail, and it's kind of

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Speaker 1: hunched over a nut and it's chewing on an acorn

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Speaker 1: with little pause. You know, the little squirrel thingthing. Damn,

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Speaker 1: that's how you see him. Yeah, that's how I see him.

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Speaker 1: That's the squirrel, you know, the little little squirrel thing

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Speaker 1: they do you're sitting there with They're not going iron.

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Speaker 1: But there are in fact squirrels out there that'll blow

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Speaker 1: your damn mind. I mean yeah, looking at some of them,

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Speaker 1: I already shocked by a minimum three are shocking. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So we are first going to talk about the squirrels

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Speaker 1: of the world that will blow your mind that they exist.

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Speaker 1: I certainly some of these in my research. I just

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Speaker 1: found it existed, and my ding ding mind is blown.

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Speaker 1: One could say my own nut is uh is blown

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Speaker 1: because these squirrels are I can't believe it. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: then at the end we will come back home to

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Speaker 1: the gray squirrels, which I think we're all familiar with,

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Speaker 1: but look at them and how amazing they can be

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Speaker 1: as well. So you know that is that's the squirrels.

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Speaker 1: Squirrel sod in a nutshell, you know. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a lovely show. I'm I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to experience it. Yeah, well, hey, what are we waiting for.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk squirrels. Now, let's do it. So cat sized

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Speaker 1: flying squirrels discovered and the Himalayas. Right, that's uh, that's

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Speaker 1: not cute, that's terrifying, right, because like squirrels are one

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Speaker 1: of the only animals they get close enough to you

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Speaker 1: that they're not that cute, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like face, Yeah, it's like they're cute for from a distance,

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Speaker 1: but like you get you get real close to them,

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Speaker 1: it's close and you start to see those big teeth. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you see, she went on nuts and something else, if

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, you wonder if some

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Speaker 1: of them have ever thought how does blood taste? You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? I feel like some of them

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Speaker 1: thought that. Yeah, certainly I've seen squirrels chewing on like

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Speaker 1: a chicken bone, your opportunistic yeah, they will. They will

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Speaker 1: eat anything by the way that they keep KFC tomorrow

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Speaker 1: your bones. I could see a squirrel having a bumper

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Speaker 1: sticker on its squirrel car that yeah. Yeah. Could they

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Speaker 1: tree nuts tomorrow your nuts? Yeah yeah. They give you

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Speaker 1: a look just like that too, with their black eyes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like a doll's eyes. Yeah yeah. Yeah, so a big one. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Some people like Adam are afraid of the big squirrels,

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Speaker 1: but indeed the big squirrels do exist. So we're talking

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Speaker 1: about the wooly flying squirrel. And before we talk about

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Speaker 1: the recent discovery of these giants flying squirrels, we gotta

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Speaker 1: go into the history of the wooly flying squirrel because

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Speaker 1: we used to think they were extinct until they were

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Speaker 1: rediscovered in the ninety nineties. So the wooly flying squirrel

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Speaker 1: is a big honking squirrel. It's five pounds and around

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Speaker 1: They're about twenty four or two ft or sixty centimeters long,

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Speaker 1: centimeters about that's crazy. That's that's like like the rats

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Speaker 1: these these are their massive It's like it's like running

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Speaker 1: squirrel operating system on Bear hardware. You know, that's what

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Speaker 1: it looks like. Did I stutter when I said it

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Speaker 1: is the wooly flying squirrel Because this big old thing

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Speaker 1: it flies. It's like I feel like that should have

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Speaker 1: too bad, there's no flying monkeys, only plans. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: they fly now, remember that? Remember that. I know, I

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Speaker 1: just say they were flying monkeys. Well there's not, there's not,

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Speaker 1: what they're like, They're like, they fly now. But these

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Speaker 1: squirrels they fly now. Well they have probably for millions

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Speaker 1: of years too. But the point is this giant honking

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Speaker 1: It's gliding, not really flying, but whatever, the fact that

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Speaker 1: If I saw a thing of this size gliding by,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if I'm not going to dispute with

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Speaker 1: it whether it's flying or gliding. I'll give it whatever

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Speaker 1: word it wants to use to describe its movement. Make

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Speaker 1: the rules. Giant flying wooly squirrel foot three ft giant

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Speaker 1: furry bat. Yeah, absolutely, you make the rules. Now I

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Speaker 1: don't make the rules anymore. It is one of the

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Speaker 1: world's largest gliding mammals. Unsurprisingly. Actually, I can't think of

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Speaker 1: a bigger one unless them. I mean, flying foxes have

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Speaker 1: a very impressive wingspan. Those are mega bat but they

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Speaker 1: fly so like they genuinely fly. So I feel like

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Speaker 1: this might actually be the largest gliding mammal. I can't

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Speaker 1: through the air. Probably not that gracefully though, honestly, over

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Speaker 1: what distance, Like how far are these things traveling? I

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Speaker 1: think fifty feet? So yeah, okay, that's not that's not

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Speaker 1: I'm less scared of a fifty Like it's like fifty feet.

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Speaker 1: They're not you know, they're not clearing a football field.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was fifty meters. Hang on, Okay, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: full breath of the wild and this thing's as a glider,

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Speaker 1: you know, like that's a that's scary. Oh it's fifty

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Speaker 1: like four that's a hundred and sixty four ft. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: classic classic metric to imperial mistake. There, I'm sorry, did

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Speaker 1: four ft of gliding capacity these bad boys got, that's yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like do they when they get in a group, did

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Speaker 1: they swarm their murmurations of flying woolen squirrels? No? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thought they'd been like extinct for hundreds of years, and

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Speaker 1: then someone just went up there. It was like, no,

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Speaker 1: they're still here, right? How did it? So? Like they're

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Speaker 1: just in that one area the Himalayas, I assume like

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Speaker 1: mountain range. Uh. These ones are found in northern Pakistan,

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Speaker 1: still being alive and not extinct. But there's actually a

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Speaker 1: recent discovery that found there is not just one species

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Speaker 1: basing this discovery actually on already existing museum specimens where

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Speaker 1: their coat coloration, their genetic differences, and that indicates are

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Speaker 1: actually two species of flying squirrels. There are the Tibetan

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Speaker 1: woolye flying squirrels and the Union wullly Union wooly flying squirrels,

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Speaker 1: both live in the Himalayas, but they live thousands of

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Speaker 1: have become two distinct species. Interesting. Interesting. I still can't understand,

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Speaker 1: like in an energy conservation way, why a mammal of

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Speaker 1: why why does that need to happen? I mean, in general,

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Speaker 1: predators up in the Himalayas, probably some owls, but it

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Speaker 1: the wooly flying squirrel, has a diet of mainly pine needles.

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Speaker 1: So it's got teeth that are super weird. They actually

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Speaker 1: don't resemble squirrel teeth. I can't imagine the size of

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Speaker 1: the owl that would take to take down the squirrel,

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Speaker 1: like we're talking about. Yeah, we're talking about like a

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Speaker 1: like some kind of primitive deity sized owl, the mega owl.

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Speaker 1: very similar to an ungulate, like a cow or a deer,

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Speaker 1: because they chew on this really tough vegetation, pine needles.

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Speaker 1: But it's not tender, you know, it's not melt in

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Speaker 1: soft looking, kind of a bluish gray, and that helps

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Speaker 1: bit eerie. And yeah, they just barely look like squirrels,

418
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: but they they are quite quite strange, like when when

419
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: they're flying, they're just basically a rectangle of fur. And

420
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: then this weird little squirrel fox body looking down at

421
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: you with its balls kind of yeah, yeah, it's it's

422
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: definitely flying balls first at you. Yeah, it looks like

423
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: a Yeah. Also, this is one of the rare times

424
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: where I'm like, did we need the menacing eyeshadow? Like

425
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: these things have like these these again batman asque the

426
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: dark paints around their eyes, you know, yeah, yeah, it's

427
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: it's just it's crazy to me that there are so

428
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: many not just giant squirrels, but giant flying squirrels. Like it.

429
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: They seem to be okay with being huge and in

430
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: the air, which I think it's quite something like when

431
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: we think about flying squirrels, they're the little they fit

432
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: in your pocket, you know, they're cute, they're adorable, little

433
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: tiny things, and you're like, yeah, that makes sense. You

434
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: could be airborne because you're so small, but these are

435
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: these are big and coming right at you. In fact,

436
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: there's another one called the red and white giant flying squirrels,

437
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: another species very similar to the red giant flying squirrel,

438
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: but they have like a little white mask that they

439
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: wear on their furs. They don't really wear it. It's,

440
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, biologically a part of them. It's just the

441
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: way they're furze colored. But it's kind of like a

442
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: bit of like a reverse red panda coloration. A little

443
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: bit going on here. But you know, it's a look,

444
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: it's a statement. This is in Africa? Is that what

445
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: these are? Is that what I heard? No, I'm wrong.

446
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: I think they're still in India and Asia. So all

447
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: the cool flying squirrels are in kind of a centralized region.

448
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: It seems like. Yeah, they seem to like to be

449
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: in and around the Himalayas, which I think is interesting.

450
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I know that the red and white giant

451
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: flying squirrel is found in China, um mainland China and

452
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: maybe South Asia. So okay, yeah, okay, but not with

453
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: the flying squirrels. Tired of them, you know, I'm tired

454
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: of They're too big for their bridges. They're like, oh,

455
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: look at me, you know, I'm in the air and

456
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm so big. It's like, you know what, I'm tired

457
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: of that. It's gimmicky. I mean, especially when they're clearly

458
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: trying to tea bag you from the sky. Yeah, what's

459
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: up with that? They're like, you know, these nuts and

460
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, hello, twenty or jokes, thanks for that,

461
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I want to talk about a big old

462
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: squirrel who doesn't like to put on airs and pretend

463
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: like it's a bird, the Indian giant squirrel. It's a

464
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: huge squirrel, but it doesn't fuss with flying, thank god. Finally,

465
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: just like an honest squirrel. He's like, you know what,

466
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a big squirrel, but not you know,

467
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: just go like, oh, well look at me. Maybe I'm

468
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: maybe I'm half bird, maybe I'm batman, you know what

469
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm just I'm big and I'm colorful. Uh.

470
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: It is a amazing looking squirrel, one of the most

471
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: beautiful squirls I think in the world. I actually mentioned

472
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: this guy briefly on a Listener Question episode, but they

473
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: definitely deserve more attention. They live in tropical forests in

474
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: India and eat a lot of fruits, and tree nuts,

475
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: and they helped the forest with seed disperse so with

476
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: their poop. So they're helpful, beautiful and helpful. God who

477
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: knew squirrel poop with such a valuable commodity. I mean,

478
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm glad I invested in it though. Yeah, that's that's

479
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: the doche coin of nature, right, Like, why is your

480
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: house covered in squirrel poop? And it's like, little do

481
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sitting on millions squirrel It's gonna explode,

482
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: just like Crypto, right right right to the moon. They're

483
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: a bit smaller than the giant flying squirrels we've been

484
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: talking about. They're only about a foot long from nose

485
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: to butt and a foot long at the tail, so

486
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: about two ft total. But still that is, you know,

487
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: like sixty centimeters of squirrel. That's a lot of squirrels still.

488
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: But what really sets them apart is their truly spectacular coat.

489
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: They have a brownish like almost blue, bluish black purply

490
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: color on their tails and their backs. They have a

491
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: band across their backs also that's like I'm a rune,

492
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: purply color like a mauve. And then they have gold

493
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: fur on their bellies and their faces, and there they

494
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: have a little on top of their heads. They have

495
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: more of that like mav color. Uh, and they're just

496
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: absolutely gorgeous. They also have this like stripe of yellow

497
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: that runs down the underside of their tail. Just the

498
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: most colorful squirrel I've ever seen. Yeah, they look like

499
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: a lot of like uh, recent baseball and football jerseys

500
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: in like Arizona, you know, I mean like those like warm,

501
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: those warm, cool, interesting colors you don't see any other place.

502
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: You're like, all right, yeah, the squirrels where they are, Yeah,

503
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: they're going there definitely. It is like you would find

504
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: a Pinterest board with like these color combos as like

505
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: as an aesthetic. Yeah, you put you put a d

506
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: Bax's hat on this thing, and it's you know, it's

507
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: right at home. H that they're black. By the way,

508
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen that in nature before. Yeah,

509
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: Like it's a really unusual color, it is. And it's

510
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: interesting because mammals are somewhat limited in terms of our

511
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: color palettes. Really, we don't have that many bright colors.

512
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: Just that's it's based on you know, the structure of

513
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: fur and with things like birds, their their wings structure,

514
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: the structure of their their feathers can actually refract light

515
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: in a certain way and create much more vibrant colors

516
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: than the mammals generally are capable of. So it is

517
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: quite astounding when you get for that's just like you

518
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: know what we're going with, like purply blue and maroon.

519
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: It's I would love an eyeshadow palette and these colors only.

520
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people could use it. Uh, absolutely,

521
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people could use it. You know, if

522
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: it was two thousand five, I wouldn't have minded it.

523
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: You know back when, back when Guyline there was doing

524
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: what was happening? Yeah, you know, we got to bring

525
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: back guyliner. Sure, you know what if squirrel, if this

526
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 1: squirrel could bring back Guyliner, I think our world would

527
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 1: be better off for it. I agree, if you could

528
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: just get Franz Ferdinand to release another record and uh

529
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 1: get Guyliner back in Back in Vogue, two thousand five

530
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: will be here again. We're actually going to take a

531
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: quick break. But speaking of two thousand five, actually probably

532
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: even earlier. When we get back, we're going to talk

533
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: about goth squirrels. So the squirrels are going goth, you know,

534
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: like nineteen five to two thousand and nine called Our

535
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: God's Still Around. That was an arbitrary a little bit

536
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: set up dates a little bit, you know. Yeah, I

537
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: think it's it's more I mean, I haven't been goth,

538
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: but I think it's like contained a certain musical tastes

539
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: or bands. Now know, when was Hot Topic? Oh, founded,

540
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: So I don't know, probably ninety five, I'm guessing I'm

541
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: gonna google it. But night nine, Hey, I was born. Yeah,

542
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: founded in nine nine, So I guess that's when goth started, right,

543
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: I'm going to get people are gonna be so mad.

544
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think Hot Topic was actually

545
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: more of a cell stuff to suburban versions of goths. Yeah, yeah, no,

546
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: absolutely and all that. Yeah, but it definitely peaked in

547
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: late nineties. That's when I remember, you know, that's when

548
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: I remember people going to school as goth and it

549
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: being like that's the thing everyone's doing now, right, Yeah, yeah,

550
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: I know. Even when I was in high school, I

551
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: felt like there was still a good contingent of goths,

552
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, going around out with the boots that were

553
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: like big, chunky, like so much so much hell, you

554
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: got to really commit five extra inches, yeah, so many laces. Yeah,

555
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: you can't step lately anywhere if you're a yeah you

556
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: got a clunk around, Yeah, yeah, you're never sneaking in anywhere,

557
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: Like that's not happened. No, you know, I've never heard

558
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: of a sneaky goth. You know that runs contrary to

559
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: the goth kind of manifesto. I believe that I can

560
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: accept that having no idea. Yeah, I'm just gonna say things,

561
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: What are gonna do get me? With their sad powers,

562
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: they might be like, hang on, I'm gonna put on

563
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: these boots and got it. I'm gonna come get you.

564
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 1: But you know it's going to take a while because

565
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: I've got so many laces scared of you. You've got

566
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: too many laces. We're gonna bring back email. That's what

567
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna do, you know, Well, lest the show become

568
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: just go joke our you know. No, the squirrels. The

569
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: squirrels are golf now. They're golf now, So provosts squirrel,

570
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: which again I think is actually already kind of a

571
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: goff name because they like that that kind of stuff,

572
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: like provost or my name is Illiquium and your name

573
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: is Provost. And we are drinking, uh tomato juice but

574
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: maybe it's blood. We don't know. But the prevoce squirrel

575
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: is also known as the Asian tricolored squirrel. And they

576
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: are black, white, and red. Some are just black and

577
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 1: red and some are black and orange. So they are

578
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: really really dressing Halloween all year long. I mean they

579
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: look incredible. Yeah, they look they look incredible. The orange

580
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: like the blood stained centerpiece here, like the breastplate of

581
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: blood or I guess sort of rust. But you know,

582
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: one could imagine pretty blood red for some of them. Yeah,

583
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: one could imagine Prevost just like drinking out of a

584
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: chalice like he was Gangrell and WF. For sure, you

585
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: can see it. I like these squirrels that my style Prevost.

586
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: My name is Prevost, and these squirrels I like them.

587
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 1: They're over the top, just like me. Yeah. They're found

588
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: in Sumatra, Borneo and the time Malay Peninsula in forests

589
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: and they yeah, they because their habitats have been kind

590
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: of disrupted by human activity. They like to visit your

591
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: garden if you live in those areas, which you know what,

592
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: I love a goth squirrel garden party, you know it

593
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: for sure. You know they're just like, I mean, the

594
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: one thing you have to give goths and goth squirrels

595
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: is they're mostly pretty chilled out. Yeah, you know, like

596
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: this squirrel doesn't look like it's causing a problem or

597
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: like screaming at you. They're exhausted from getting that cut

598
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: crease on their eyeliner, you know what I mean. Like

599
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: they are two, they have spent five hours on their makeup,

600
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: so they're not going to start a fight. No, just

601
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: pop on the Joy Division record and we'll all chill out, man.

602
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, these are like I feel like, actually,

603
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: this one's sort of like the SF Giants coloration, like orange,

604
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: white and black. Um, this one's just this one straight

605
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: up just like blood red and black, like blood red

606
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: on its tummy and black on its back. That's that's hardcore. Yeah,

607
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: it's like the Black Widow of squirrels. Yeah, yeah, no,

608
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: it's absolutely. Yeah, it's pretty that's pretty melodramatic for a squirrel, yes, right, Like,

609
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not saying that that's wrong. I'm

610
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: just saying like, hey man, why you know, like what's wrong,

611
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: like what's up? You need to talk or anything that's

612
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: not kind of like middle school golfs where they're basically

613
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: little babies. They've drawn like black eyeliner that like runs

614
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: down their face and it's like, oh, but you're like

615
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: ten years old, Like you're not even old enough to

616
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: like disintegration or something. You know. Uh, you just like

617
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: the makeup, yeah, which, hey, it is great, Which is great. No,

618
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm not No, you can get like the squirrel too.

619
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, what if you want to be

620
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: a cute little squirrel. And this is like, to be clear,

621
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: these are like just standard squirrel shaped, like they look

622
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: like little squirrels. It's just it's like you took a

623
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: squirrel and you know, just put on some golf makeup

624
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: on just a normal squirrel. I mean, I do enjoy

625
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: this bit. It kind of looks like it was painted almost,

626
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: Like that's what's so crazy, is it. It's like that's

627
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: another weird color of black, not not not quite as

628
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: as unusual as the other one, but like a pretty

629
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: dark color of black. And then the red is like

630
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: night and day different, like it's so saturated bright. Uh,

631
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: it's pretty. It's pretty wild. Yeah, yeah, they don't. They

632
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: look like they've they've got some kind of filter on

633
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: these squirrels. But I don't think so and this is

634
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: just the straight up squirrel truth. Yeah, and these kinds

635
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: of colors are very rarely seen in mammals, that bright

636
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: blood red, especially contrasted with the black. Yeah, I mean

637
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: you you hit the nail on the head with like

638
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: they are black widow coloration, which is crazy. Probably owl

639
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: poison and I'll eats one of those, and it's just

640
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like it dies gurgling as

641
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: soon as it eats one of these. I thought you

642
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: were kind of like saying, like a band of owls

643
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: that like Poison the band, but made up of owls, Like, yeah,

644
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: but that would be a parliament of owls, wouldn't it.

645
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: Right right now? That's true, But I mean because I

646
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: was gonna say, like I think Poison is glam metal,

647
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: it's not really gone. No, Poison is not goth. That

648
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 1: is accurate. It's the wrong, wrong aesthetic and vibe. I mean,

649
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: when I think of God, it's basically the Cure and

650
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: joint Division, Like those are the bands that are like, like,

651
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: you can't go wrong with either of those. Yeah, but yeah,

652
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: other squirrels are deciding to go goth as well. I'm

653
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: sure you are familiar with the Eastern gray squirrel. Even

654
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 1: if you don't live in the east of the US,

655
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: they are still in the west of the US because

656
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: they are good at spread and around. But yeah, the

657
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: if you live in basically anywhere in the US, and

658
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: even in I think Canada and all over North America,

659
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: the eastern gray squirrel is finds its way around. Um,

660
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: especially around college campuses. I'm sure you've seen them. And

661
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: they have this thing that happens in mutation of their coat,

662
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: which creates melanistic squirrels. So melanistic squirrels are black instead

663
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: of gray. And you know how like there's albino versions

664
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: of animals, that's where they kind of lack all pigment.

665
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: Melanistic versions of animals are the opposite. They have extreme pigment.

666
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: So this occurs in other animals as well. In fact,

667
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: black panthers are there is no distinct species of like

668
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: black panthers. Those are melanistic versions of leopards and jaguars.

669
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, okay, I'm looking right now

670
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: at a eastern gray squirrel that's melanistic and uh this

671
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: is this is a great looking creature. I think like like, wow,

672
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: if you saw one of these in the wild. Yeah,

673
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: they're beautiful. They're also like very striking and be like, WHOA,

674
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: but but they're really beautiful. I I hope to run

675
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: into one the next time I'm at a university campus

676
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: where squirrels rule all squirrels everything there. Well, if you

677
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: want to see some of these melanistic squirrels, you can

678
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: go up to the Stanford College campus in northern California,

679
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: where there are bountiful numbers of these melanistic squirrels. In fact,

680
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: there are so many around the Stanford College campus that

681
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: there was a rumor that they were an escaped scientific

682
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: experiment that some scientists, Stanford scientists are just like, yeah,

683
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna make make some uh make some god squirrels

684
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: and release them. I mean, they do look like you know,

685
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: in the genetic Mentel's p plant arrangement of it all,

686
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: they do look like they were made you know what

687
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: I mean. Uh, yeah, you wouldn't think it's what you're

688
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: saying is like a strange mutation. You'd think they were bred.

689
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: So I understand that rumor, Yeah, it's but yeah, no,

690
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: it is incredible because they do occur naturally, completely naturally.

691
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: In fact, like I think we've seen so many other

692
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: squirrels that have ridiculous coke colorations that at this point

693
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, yeah, of course, of course these black

694
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: versions of the gray squirrels are gonna occur naturally. As

695
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: to why this coat coloration happens, I mean similar to albinism,

696
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: Like there is just a genetic mutation that can mess

697
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: with the body's production of melanin and pigment. But we

698
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: don't see that many albino animals because they are such

699
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: easy pickens for predators unfortunately, so as beautiful as they

700
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: can be, they are you know, often picked off by

701
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: predators pretty quickly because it's easy to spot them, whereas

702
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: luckily with the melanistic squirrels and other animals, Uh, that's

703
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: not as much of a factor. So, like, they don't

704
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: stick out as much as an albino animals, so they

705
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: often survive more than their albino counterparts. So in terms

706
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: of natural settings where the melanistic coat variation maybe beneficial.

707
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: It's theorized that in certain forests that go through more

708
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: periodic burnings that black coat coloration would help them fit

709
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: in with sort of a black forest. Yeah, there's also

710
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: a theory that the black firm may help them stay

711
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: warm in the winter due to thermoregulation, where you know

712
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: they're absorbing more heat from the sun, but I would

713
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: imagine that would also put them at a disadvantage because

714
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: black fur on white snow would make it really easy

715
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: for a predator to spot. Uh. But really, you will

716
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: see most of them in an urban environment, especially around

717
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: college campuses. And the most compelling reason for them being

718
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: so plentiful around college campuses and in urban areas is

719
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: that their natural predators are pushed out of the urban environments,

720
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: so there are fewer hunting pressures on them, so they

721
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: can just thrive in their beautiful black coats. So if

722
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: you've been on a college campus, sometimes you know like

723
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: there will be like an albino squirrel that gets really

724
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: fame miss amongst the campus. And the reason that you'll

725
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: spot these albino squirrels and they may live to adulthood

726
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: is that they are somewhat sheltered by being on a

727
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: college campus because there are going to be fewer of

728
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: their natural predators around so many people, whereas the squirrels

729
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: are totally fine with the presence of of human beings. Um.

730
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: So uh, you know, college campuses are kind of ideal

731
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: for these squirrels because the high foot traffic, lots of

732
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: people willing to part with food, lots of trees, lots

733
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: of noise pollution, uh and light pollution that probably drives

734
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: off animals like owls or red tailed hawks who would

735
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: normally be their predators. So, you know, squirrels like to

736
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: go to college and party. Two. Let's be honest, though,

737
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: if a redtail hawk swooped down while you're in class,

738
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: right and it was like, you know, ask you with

739
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: its eyes, can I have some of your sandwich, you'd

740
00:48:55,040 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: give it some. It's really that the hawks aren't trying

741
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: as hard as they could be trying. They're not try hard. Not.

742
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: This is what I keep saying. Squirrels are try hards

743
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: and hawks, aren't you. Yeah, squirrels have no shame, and

744
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: I'm not judging. I'm not judging them. I'm saying like

745
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: they have evolved to the world we live in now,

746
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: where it's like, look, we're gonna ask for food and

747
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna give it to us, and that's how it is. Yeah,

748
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 1: it's a good lesson that things like pride and shame.

749
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: You know, look how successful squirrels are adapting to an

750
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: urban environment. Now compare that to the less less success

751
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: with red tailed hawks. Really, shame is just holding you

752
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: back your your manners. Your talent manners are going to

753
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: be the end of your species. So where did that get?

754
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: I see you holding up your teacup with one talent

755
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: daintally lifted monocle. I see you, right, and then the

756
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 1: squirrels just down there like give us a nuts, right? Yeah,

757
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: Like the squirrels basically like the drunk frat boy of

758
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: the university animal them like it'll it'll wander right up

759
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: to you. It's mostly harmless. It'll look at you until

760
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: you address it. You know, if you give it some food,

761
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: that's it. That's the end exactly. Well, before we go,

762
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: I've talked a lot about squirrels outer appearances, but I

763
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: want you to get to know the insides of the

764
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: squirrels as well, the depth of the squirrel uh, their

765
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: guts in their heart and now I'm kidding, like you

766
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 1: know their behavior. So I'm going to talk about gray squirrels,

767
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: who we actually this is what we've been talking about,

768
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: the melanistic version of gray squirrels. Um and you know,

769
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: we think of squirrels is just being kind of dumb

770
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: and just banging nuts around and not really thinking about stuff,

771
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: but that they're actually surprisingly intelligence. So gray squirrels have

772
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: a pretty incredible memory for where they bury their nuts

773
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: because they like to have cashes where they just like

774
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: bury it in sporadic areas and so of having like

775
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 1: one big cash, some squirrels do that, where other species

776
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: where they just have like a bunch of nuts in

777
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: one area, like a nut pile in like a hollow

778
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: log or something, but gray squirrels like to bury it around.

779
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: They diversify their portfolio. They're not portfolio. It's very smart

780
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 1: and they are able to remember where they put these

781
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: nuts and retrieve up to ninety of their cash. Obviously

782
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: this can vary, so sometimes they only recover like of

783
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: their cash. But there's this idea that like squirrels forget

784
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: most of their nuts, and that's just not true. It's

785
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: just very variable. Sometimes they're really good at retrieving like

786
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: most of them. Sometimes it's harder for them to retrieve

787
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: their nuts and find them. But they definitely do have

788
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: good spatial memory. There have been a lot of studies

789
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: on that, and they actually use kind of landmarks to

790
00:51:55,080 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: help triangulate where where their nuts are. That's incredible. Yes, wow, uh,

791
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: I would think that they would, like do they know

792
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: when their site has been disturbed? You know what I mean,

793
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: like if they bury them? Like do they know if

794
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: like an owl set a little trap form or something?

795
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Well, actually, sometimes they will

796
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: be observed by thieves, so other squirrels will stalk them.

797
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: These are all gray squirrels, so like some of them

798
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: are just kind of sneakily watching another squirrel that they

799
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: see has got a nut, and they like stalk them.

800
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: And so squirrels have developed this strategy, this counter strategy.

801
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: So the thief will stalk the squirrel and then wait

802
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: until the other squirrel is gone and then go and

803
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: dig up the squirrel stash and take it for themselves.

804
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: So a strategy that they've done to thwart the thieves

805
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: is they will bury like fake nuts, so they pretend antomime, Yeah,

806
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: they pantomime burying a nut, and they actually put nothing

807
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: in the ground. So like, uh, they dig a little hole,

808
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: thrust their little paws inside as if they're burying something,

809
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: but there's nothing there, and then cover it up with

810
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: leaves and go away, so that the thieves will go

811
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: over there and like try to dig up nothing, like congratulations,

812
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: you found nothing, while the other squirrel is off like

813
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: baring its Actually, that's incredible. It would have been a

814
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: little better if there had been like one of those

815
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: boxing gloves on a spring when it digs it up,

816
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: you know, right right right to the thief. Yeah, or

817
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: like a little note I owe you one nut. Yeah

818
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: yeah x x so yeah exactly. Yeah. How far are

819
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,479
Speaker 1: we from squirrels and venting banks? Are we? Right? That's

820
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: once that happens totally different. It's ten years. I think

821
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, yeah, we're close. I mean yeah. They

822
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: are pretty smart with their nuts. They get a nut

823
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: that it detects houses a larvae like a moth larvae.

824
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: The squirrel will eat the nut immediately instead of storing

825
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,479
Speaker 1: it because it knows that the larva will eventually eat

826
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: all the meat of the nut before the squirrel gets

827
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: a chance to retrieve it from its cash. So like

828
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 1: it has a nut and it's got like a little

829
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: hole in it, and it goes like, well, if I

830
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: bury this nut, like in a few weeks, when I

831
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: come back to get the nut, the larva is probably

832
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Speaker 1: it's worthless. The larva is going to have eaten it,

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Speaker 1: so it just eats the whole nut, larva and all

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Speaker 1: extra protein. It's good. Actually helped out in when I

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Speaker 1: was a undergrad. I was did this. It was one

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Speaker 1: of the mini student ras on like a study where

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Speaker 1: we were looking at squirrel behavior with these nuts and

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Speaker 1: we would give them nuts to that had holes in

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Speaker 1: them and have to watch them and write our observations

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Speaker 1: down on the clipboard, which was really good for my

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Speaker 1: like kind of social reputation, just like sitting down giving

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Speaker 1: us nut to a squirrel and then writing stuff down

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Speaker 1: very normal behavior. Did you name them? And stuff like

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Speaker 1: did you did you go that far? Squirrels? No? I

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Speaker 1: wanted to remain impartial. Named Lucy. You're rooting for it,

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Speaker 1: right right exactly. I don't want you know, it's got

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Speaker 1: to be double blind. I can't know who you are squirrels.

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Speaker 1: We got to protect the squirrels privacy, you know, because

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Speaker 1: what if we find out like, oh, squirrels are good

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Speaker 1: at this, but Hector is not, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: like he's not good at it? Uh, yeah, then he'd learned,

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Speaker 1: which we know is death for squirrels, right, No, we can't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's shame will be the downfall of squirrels. They can't

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Speaker 1: ever know shame that will. There can never be an

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Speaker 1: Adam and Eve squirrel otherwise they are doomed eating the

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Speaker 1: nut of eating still a snake that tempts him though,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I feel like a

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Speaker 1: snake still works for that story, right right. Fortunately, even

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Speaker 1: when squirrels forget their nuts, it still has a happy

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Speaker 1: ending because forgotten squirrel nuts can help with forest growth

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Speaker 1: because they are essentially just doing gardening. They got tricked

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Speaker 1: into doing gardening. Unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, squirrels some like they're

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Speaker 1: incredibly positive influences on their environment, despite being three feet

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Speaker 1: of winged doom as I as I felt earlier, right right,

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Speaker 1: three to four feet of winged furry doom coming from above,

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Speaker 1: screaming like a child with him the sema that description

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Speaker 1: deserves to me on mat Man's tombstone, just like a

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Speaker 1: chain smoking child. What is that, sir? Like? Where did

869
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Speaker 1: did you learn that the coal mines? Where did you

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00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: find that fact? Yeah? You think you know nuts? You

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Speaker 1: know no nuts about nuts? You know you want to

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Speaker 1: play Jack's uh well, did you enjoy learning about squirrels.

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00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: They're great. What a lot of fun squirrels there are. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I still think they're like inclined towards evil, though, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm allowed to still think that. I think they're just

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00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: inclined towards success with no moral compass. They're a moral

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00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: they're morally neutral, and but they crave success. So maybe

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00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: that is what evil is. I don't know. I'm not

879
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: a philosopher. I'm also not not one. I'm not a

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00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: doctor of philosophy. I am simply an appreciator of squirrels.

881
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, I mean, you know you could do

882
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: some positive philosophically, couldn't you. Yeah. I posit that squirrels

883
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: are they are takers, and they are. I posit that

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00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: squirrel not generous, can't trust they're not generous. I posit

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00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 1: that squirrels should probably be investigated by the I R. Sure, like,

886
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: so these are we're all just talking about the nuts

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00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: we see? What about the nuts? You don't see? It's

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00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: just kind of the tip of the nutbird underneath the forest.

889
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: If you dig down far enough, we suspect there's just

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Speaker 1: a gigantic nut down there. An I R. S auditor

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00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: just like opens up a closet and a bunch of

892
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: nuts start like you know, pouring out and then just

893
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: keeps coming. You think it's gonna end, but no, more

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00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: and more nuts were staring with what would be an

895
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Speaker 1: apology in a different animals face, but not these squirrels

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00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: now just smoking a cigarette thing. What do you want

897
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: me to tell? Figuring out the angles? Like, that's what

898
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: he's doing. My texted herd he has been in Bermuda

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Speaker 1: since July. I'll lead this to you, and then he

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Speaker 1: flies out the window and wings. Well, squirrels now you know,

901
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 1: now you love them, now you fear them, Adam. Where

902
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: can people find you? Where can the squirrels come to

903
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Speaker 1: your dreams? Well, they can find my podcast on the

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Speaker 1: Small Beans network. I have three of them. One of

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Speaker 1: them about video games called one Upsmanship. Another one is

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Speaker 1: about friendship media called I'll show your Mind to show

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Speaker 1: me yours and finally direct your piec it or is

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Speaker 1: about basically the filmmaking process in your pop low art movies.

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Speaker 1: It's very fun. You can find me very funny on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at the Real Games also Twitch. I do a

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Speaker 1: lot of video games streaming. Had the Real games and

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Speaker 1: some day sum in theaters, Golding Someday, someday, soon you

913
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Speaker 1: should do one on a script the it's the Prehistoric

914
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Speaker 1: Squirrel and the Ice Age trilogy or is it a quadrilogy?

915
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Speaker 1: How many ice Ages are there? More than many, more

916
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Speaker 1: than I've cared about, more than I want to face

917
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: the reality of that. There's so many animated films that

918
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Speaker 1: are like, oh, that makes a lot of money and

919
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't care about it. Yeah, but it's truly about script, right,

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00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: Like the squirrel who's always after that nut and he

921
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Speaker 1: can't get his nut, Like it's script, it's the human condition.

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00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: He's the you know, Sisyphus of squirrel of food gathering. Yeah, right,

923
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: like the rest of the Ice Age movies, I think

924
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: is kind of like just junk that it's a vehicle

925
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: for the script stories, which are truly beautiful. And there's

926
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Speaker 1: a kind of Kaman exploration that's that we're all do

927
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: about script, right, a nihilism. It's a squirrel. The squirrel

928
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Speaker 1: sort of like revealing the naked, naked reality of failure

929
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Speaker 1: to attain a journey, the hollow sorrow of success, like

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe the movie right exactly, the movie begins

931
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Speaker 1: right when he eats a nut, and it's like, now,

932
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: what you know, He's always spending his time pursuing the

933
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: nut and never time just experiencing. Yeah. Well, anyways, you

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Speaker 1: can find us on the internet at Creature feature Pot

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, at Creature feet Pot on Twitter. That's f

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Speaker 1: can write me your questions or comments or squirrel pictures.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually playing anning on doing a good chunk of

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Speaker 1: listener question shows soon, so please do send me and

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Speaker 1: your questions at Creature Feature Pod at gmail dot com

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Speaker 1: and I would certainly appreciate those. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for listening. If you've been enjoying the show, I would

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Speaker 1: it if you left a rating and review right now? Now?

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding, guys, I I really just you listening is enough.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. But you know, if you do

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