WEBVTT - #792 Packers Unscripted: Back from Brazil 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:16.040 Hi, everybody. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.880 Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.760 I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by my trust 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:24.880 in colleague Wes Honkoitz. We're coming to you here from 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:29.280 our studios at Lambeufield, back from Brazil where the Packers 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:33.440 unfortunately fell to the Philadelphia Eagles thirty four to twenty nine. 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.960 And Wes Weather, you're talking about the missed opportunities in 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:39.800 that game, the injury to Jordan Love, which we'll get 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:42.120 into more of the details of that here in a minute. 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.400 It was just a trip full of regrets for the 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.680 Green Bay Packers. Quite frankly, the way the way things ended. 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.919 Yeah, it was weird, Mike, because, like I left the stadium, 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.600 I mean it's a you know, you lost and it sucks, 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.920 But like I remember being so much more demoralized, like 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.400 by what happened in London against the Giants, then in 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.039 this game against the Eagles. And two things that one, 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:07.600 I think the Eagles are a pretty good team. 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:09.200 Yeah, I think I think they are too. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.560 And it was a knockdown, slug out fight. I think 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.160 I counted seven lead changes in this thing. It was 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.360 balanced throughout. It's just that I think the final round there, 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.319 the fourth quarter, the Eagles threw a couple more punches 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.680 and were able to win this thing. It's regrettable from 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.440 the standpoint that the green bait Packers had multiple chances 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:27.240 to take control of this game and they just were 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.000 not able to do it. When you get three takeaways 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:31.720 that the way they did two of them right off 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.360 the bat, but you only get six points when you 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.679 seem like every single time there was an opportunity to 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.520 really separate yourself in this matchup, the Packers fell short. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.199 And then certainly the last fifteen seconds of the game, 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.200 Jordan Love goes down with the knee injury, and I 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.640 just remember sitting there, beautiful stadium, beautiful night, but I 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.200 just remember sitting there in my chair thinking, like, man, 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.760 it really happened again, just like with Aaron and the thumb. 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:57.800 You hope it doesn't linger the way it did with Aaron. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.280 But right at the very end, you get got to 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.040 that game relatively healthy as a team, and then unfortunately 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:03.840 Jordan goes out. 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.240 Yeah, well, wait, what we have learned to this point 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.280 with regard to Jordan Love's knee injury. The Packers are 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.320 not putting him on injured reserve, which is good news. 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:17.800 And hearing Matt Lafleur talk about the situation on Monday, 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:22.239 he didn't use the phrase week to week, but that's 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.240 sort of what I took out of it, that, you know, 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.880 Matt Lafleur was not going to put a timeline on 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.919 this thing, and he didn't even actually rule Jordan Love 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.799 out for this Sunday against the Colts. But you know, 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:38.799 I took that not as much about what maybe this weekend, 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.160 what might or might not happen this weekend, but that 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.200 there seems to be a lot of internal optimism that 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.639 Jordan Love's injury is not going to keep him out 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:49.480 too awfully. 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.480 Log Now exactly. 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.919 What that's going to mean, we'll have to wait and see. 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.600 But that was the least good news because we've seen, 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.280 you know, in past years when Aaron Rodgers has broken 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.000 collar bones and the broken thumb and things like that. Now, 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.280 obviously Rogers kept playing through the broken thumb, but it 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.760 was something that definitely affected the Packers' season in twenty 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:14.239 twenty two for quite some time. Hopefully Jordan Love can 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.640 be back on the field sooner than later. The Packers 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:19.799 want to make sure that he's going to be all 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:21.959 the way back and he can protect himself and he's 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.200 not at risk of any greater injury to that knee. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.400 But in the meantime, the Packers are going to prepare 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.040 Malik Willis, who just got here a couple of weeks ago. 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:36.320 They're going to prepare him to start against the Indianapolis 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:40.840 Colts in place of Jordan Love. And it's kind of 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.440 how this league goes sometimes, right, you never know what 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.560 is going to happen week to week in this league, 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.000 and suddenly the Packers season in week two, what we're 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.320 looking at right in front of us just looks completely 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.520 different than maybe what we expected. 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.320 And my big line, not that I'm some fancy writer, 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.200 but was every NFL season has twists and turns, and 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.400 it's how you deal with that. Last year, it was 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.600 Aaron Jones in the hamstring. That was a storyline for 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.760 Green Bay the entire season. Actually, as it turned out, 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:07.680 he ended up aggravating again at the end of the 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:11.160 year in San Francisco with it Jordan Love with just 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.800 be in the sprain or whatever would have you. This 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.000 is something that obviously Matt Leffler said they're not going 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:19.960 to put him in a position where he can't protect himself. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:21.880 They're not going to put them in a position where 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.599 they're mortgaging their future for the short term, especially in 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.599 Week two. You don't want to go down that road. 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.160 For Malik Willis. I think this is a golden opportunity 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:33.960 if he is ultimately the guy that steps out there 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:35.840 on the field and leads the Packers into the home 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.400 opener against the Indianapolis Colts, because for so long he 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.559 was looking for that opportunity and that chance to show 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.480 how he's grown since just getting his feet wet and 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.159 being thrown into the fire as a rookie in twenty 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.800 twenty two, barely played last season, and now here he is. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.680 He comes to Green Bay, has off of strong training camp, 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.080 strong preseason, but they were going with will Levis and 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.040 they wanted Mason Rudolph as they're backup Tennessee, so then 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.480 Willis was available. Here he is now in this offense, 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.560 and with Matt lafluor Tom Clemens, there is going to 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.920 be an encyclopedia throne at him this week, I would imagine, 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.800 But ultimately it's on the coaches to find a digestible 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.640 game plan that he can function with he can administer 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.360 in the Green Bay Packers very much are still expecting 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:20.520 to win this game on Sunday. 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.880 I think that's really the key thing. And Matt Lafuir 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:27.560 emphasized that on Monday that, yes, Malik Willis has only 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.840 been here for a couple of weeks and he can't 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.480 really put a percentage on how much of the playbook 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.000 he actually knows, or how much of the playbook he 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.839 will know by the time Sunday's kickoff rolls around. But 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.719 that doesn't really matter. What matters is that Malik Willis 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.640 needs to understand one hundred percent of the game plan 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.080 that the Packers are going to take into this game. No, 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:51.640 he won't have that encyclopedic knowledge of the offensive system 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.840 that an Aaron Rodgers or Jordan Love would have with 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.960 the experience that they bring with Matt lfuor and with 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.880 this system to the tape. But that's not what matters. 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.000 It's about the game plan that's going to be taken 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.479 into that game on Sunday. And when you look at this, 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.279 you look at what Malik Willis will will have at 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.400 his disposal. Yes, you know, there were a lot of 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:19.880 regrets from the Eagles game. With regard to the mischances 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.640 in the red zone, the goal to go after, the turnovers, 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.280 all that kind of stuff, the penalties, there's a lot 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.120 for the Packers to clean up there on the offensive 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:32.800 side of the ball in particular. But a couple of things. 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:39.279 One we saw the massive explosive playability of Jaden Reid. 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.200 He ends up scoring two touchdowns in this game, one rushing, 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.760 one receiving the thirty three yard end around for a touchdown, 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.320 and then the seventy yard catch and run for a touchdown. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.320 So that is certainly something for the Packers to hang 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.719 their hat on. And aside from the end around for 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.880 a touchdown, the Packers really got their running game going. 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.800 It was a tough slot early they had to make 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:06.279 some adjustments against the Eagles, but after Josh Jacobs was 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.840 held to just six yards i'm sorry, four yards on 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:14.560 his first six carries against the Eagles, after that, Wes 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.800 Emanuel Wilson and Josh Jacobs combined for one hundred and 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.440 twenty six yards on fourteen carries. That was nine yards 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:27.160 per carry basically from the second quarter on against the Eagles. 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.440 That kind of running game, if the Packers can bring 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.280 that kind of running game into the home opener against 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.040 the Colts with Malik Willis at quarterback. That's going to 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.680 go a long way for that young man trying to 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.920 get a victory here in Jordan Love's play. 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:42.480 And that was probably when you get back to what 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.680 this game played out. The most maddening part of it 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.160 is if you would have told me on Friday morning, 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:48.440 as you and I are getting ready to get go 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.080 to this game, that the Packers are going to run 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:52.800 the ball twenty one times for one hundred and sixty 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.640 three yards and a touchdown three takeaways, I would say, oh, well, 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.360 how many touchdowns they went by? Just because it's like 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.400 those are big time numbers and big time explosive plays. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.520 And the thing that you can take some solace in 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.680 now going into this is it seemed like they were 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.320 functioning better as a unit in the second half. And 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.840 it's not just okay, well Philly was wearing down. No, 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.720 guys were just fulfilling their assignments. And that's always the 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:19.400 nice thing about being able to talk to Mattlin floor 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.000 on a Monday and just being able to get away 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:22.840 from the game a little bit. See the film Take 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.440 the Emotions Out of it in the locker room afterwards, 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.520 as Matt Steimond pointed out and his question to Matt, 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.520 a lot of guys were talking about the scheme change 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.080 they made and things that they did differently in the 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.760 second half, And as the floor pointed out on Monday, 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:37.000 it's wasn't so much that it was just guys blocking better, 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.960 being able to take out linebackers at the second level 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.240 rather than them shooting gaps and being able to stall 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.640 the running backs. And be really honest with you, I 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.400 thought one of the biggest plays and I can't remember 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.080 exactly how many yards I went for, but there was 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.200 one of those moments right there early in the third quarter. 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.560 I believe it was where Josh Jacobs was sort of 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.360 dead to rights in the hole and he made a 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.679 guy miss. And then once they started being able to 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.240 get some of those ten and eleven yard plays, the 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:06.000 ball started bouncing a little bit more. Emmanuel Wilson, Dude, 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.120 I've said it time and time again. This guy can 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.280 just run the football. And I had asked Josh Jacobs 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.480 about him two weeks ago and he said, if you 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.520 watch him on film, he doesn't look like he's that fast, 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.440 but that guy can move like when he's on the 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.320 field and you're playing the game of football. He is 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.360 a very difficult guy to bring to the ground with 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:27.000 his size and his speed. And they don't have aj Dillon. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.960 But I'll tell you what, man, especially with Marshawn Lloyd 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.680 still working his way back from this hamstring, Emmanuel Wilson 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:34.560 is a really good complimentary back in Mike. Before I 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.679 throw this back to I will just say one last time. 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.520 Twenty thirteen, the Packers lost Aaron Rodgers to the collar 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.680 bowen for the first time. Matt Flynn was a godsend 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:45.880 coming in from Buffalo after he got cut and was 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.000 able to manage the offense for the next month to 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:49.880 be able to get the Packers in a playoff position. 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.480 But the reason why the Packers were still alive when 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.880 Aaron Rodgers came back in Chicago was because of how 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:56.920 well Eddie Lacy ran the football and how well that 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:01.240 offensive line block for him. However long Jordan Law gone 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:05.040 zero games, one game, four games, who knows. Yeah, that 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.120 running game is going to be very important for Green 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:08.760 Bay now moving forward and being able to have a 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.200 second half like they did in Brazil. 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.840 Yeah, and I hope people realize as well. And I 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.560 put together my weekly what you Might have Missed segment 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.400 looking at the film specifically about the running game, and 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.840 I have the clips in there of what the Eagles 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.080 were doing on those early runs the way Nakobe Dean 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:29.160 Zach bond. The linebackers were shooting gaps. They weren't scraping, 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.520 you know, they weren't playing traditional run defense. They were 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.760 shooting gaps and playing really aggressively, and it was throwing 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.640 off the timing of the Packers blocking where you start 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.679 with a double team or a combo block and then 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.480 a guy shifts off to go pick off the linebacker. 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.920 My point is this is not as simple as saying, oh, 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.439 look at as soon as Emmanuel Wilson went in the game, 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.480 the Packers started to run the ball better. You know, 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.360 so why isn't it just give the ball to Wilson 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.040 instead of Jacobs. Well, take a look at the film, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.040 because when Wilson did first go into the game, and 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.560 the Packers also did change what they were doing where 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:06.760 they they instead of just doing strictly the zone scheme runs, 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.960 they were doing some gap scheme runs. They were pulling 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.240 Sean Ryan from right guard. They were pulling Tucker Kraft 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.439 from the right side at tight end to come over 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.360 and make blocks. So they were changing up their blocking scheme. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.920 That got the Eagles on their heels a little bit 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.679 to say like, okay, we can't just charge straight up 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.600 my field against this running game. So then when the 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.520 Packers went back to the zone scheme later in the game, 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.240 and again these clips are in the what you might 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.480 have missed, then you saw the Packers had. The Packers 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.120 timing was a little bit better. They were kind of 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.960 in some ways ignoring the combo blocks getting to the 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:41.960 guys on the second level right away so that they 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:45.400 couldn't shoot those gaps, and the running game just continued 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.120 to produce. And so at the end of the day, 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:52.160 you know the It's one of those things about Week one, right, 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.200 the Packers didn't know the Eagles were going to come 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.520 out and just shoot gaps with their linebackers against the 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.280 run in the first quarter. It took them a quarter 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.719 to adjust it. Unfortunately, it was during that quarter when 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.920 the Packers were getting the turnovers. They were in the 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.560 red zone and gold to go situations, but had to 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.800 settle for field goals because they couldn't get the running 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.600 game going in those moments. So it's just part of 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.640 how these games play out, and you just never know 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.600 the fact that the Packers still put twenty nine points 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.160 on the board in this game. When you look at 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.440 how many points they sort of left on the board 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:27.120 with the red zone failures and the one extra point 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:28.920 where they tried to go for two didn't get it. 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.520 You had a missed field goal in there. The Packers 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.040 put twenty nine on the board and had, you know, 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.520 legitimate opportunity for forty, you know, or at least upper 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:41.080 thirties in this game. So there is something for the 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:45.520 Packers to take into this game with Malik Willis at quarterback, 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.000 and then potentially, you know, you throw in the wrinkle 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.840 of a guy like Willis who might have some runs 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.440 designed for him as a quarterback, right, the kind of 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.079 thing that you don't necessarily design for Jordan Love. But 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.600 Malik Willis is a different type of quarterbacks. So I'll 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.000 be curious to see exactly when we talk about the 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.880 game plan and what Malik Willis has to digest, what 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.319 exactly the game plan is going to look like come 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:10.240 Sunday afternoon. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.280 It was funny because Matt had said. He came out 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.600 and said right away, you don't. If Jordan is not clear, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.000 then it will be Milik Willis. With Sean Clifford, the 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.400 fifth round pick from last year's currently on the practice squad, 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.199 he would serve as the backup. And some people had 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.160 asked an insider inbox that, well, you know, why would 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:25.920 you start Clifford? He has more knowledge of the playbook. 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.880 That's true, but there's also a ton of film out 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.760 there in pre season on Sean. People really don't know 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.839 what to expect what the Green Bay Packers want to 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.600 do with right Willis contrast to what he was doing 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:37.760 in some of the things he was asked to do 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.840 in Tennessee. Again, we did the five things story. We 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:42.760 talked to him after he came here. This is a 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.240 guy that is a dual threat quarterback. A lot of 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.120 people said coming into the league, the more you can 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:50.040 draw up for him based off of run action is 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.000 going to be really benefit him. In addition to having 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.480 a really good downfield arm towards the sideline, he could win. 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.920 Malik Willis was one of the top quarterbacks in that 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.600 twenty twenty two for that reason. It's just now going 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.160 to be a question of how quickly can you catch 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:07.040 the train? And that's where we're gonna have to find 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.240 out potentially on Sunday, exactly where he's at in this 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.520 whole thing. But the Green Bay Packers went out, Mike, 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.160 we said it. They didn't rest on their laurels. They 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.800 felt they needed to get better at that position, and 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.680 Milik Willis potentially could have a big opportunity to show that. 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.840 It definitely looks like a big opportunity for that young man. 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.240 He did rush for I believe it was right around 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.800 two hundred yards in the three starts that he had 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.200 for Tennessee back as a rookie in twenty twenty. Yeah, 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.640 so he dragged a he know, he averaged, you know, 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.520 right around sixty or seventy rushing yards per game, which 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.240 is pretty productive for a quarterback. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.480 By the way, because I focus so much on Jacobs 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.440 in Wilson, you had mentioned in your original toss to 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.560 me with Jayden Reid, and I don't know if you're 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:47.800 planning to get back to that, but I'm just going 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:48.840 to jump in here and ment. 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.280 Go ahead, yeah, go ahead. 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.720 The way that he made plays in this game. I 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:55.600 said it to you. I said it to Tom Fanning, 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.320 I haven't covered the league as long as you have. 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.440 I haven't covered the league as long as robdimovsk has. 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.400 In terms of a guy that is a natural wide receiver, 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.080 I've never seen anybody play that position with the vision 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.520 that he has, whether it was on the thirty three 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.880 yard end a round for the touchdown run, or whether 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:12.920 it was what he for the people he made miss 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.600 on a seventy yard touchdown. When that guy is in 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:17.640 open space, he's not as big as a running back, 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.960 but he sure runs like one. Yeah, and his ability 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.680 to break ankles. Again, I don't want to get into 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.920 the wide receiver one two, three, four five, talk, but 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.920 I thought this was an excellent example that when the 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.920 pads are on and the bolts are flying, this kid 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:33.760 is special. 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:34.680 Yeah. 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:39.080 We saw we saw a taste of that, right A. 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.600 I don't want to say tease, because he certainly was 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:47.320 very productive as a rookie. We saw the potential of 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.320 what Jaden Reid could become in this league as a 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.640 rookie last year. I think what we saw in the 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.520 first game of his second season is that he is 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.840 he is on the verge of sort of entering that 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:03.720 definition of an electrifying player. There is something, there is 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.200 something special, something different about the ball when it is 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.680 in his hands, when the ball is headed towards him 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:14.720 through the air, he brings a different dimension to things. 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.080 And I do think that is something the Packers can 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.960 whether it's Jordan Love or Malik Willis at quarterback, I 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.400 think that is something that the Packers are going to 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.840 look to maximize on here moving forward. 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.000 In twenty twenty four. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:31.920 The real tragedy in this was Jordan's knee injury happening 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.880 one play after that thirty three yard catch on the sideline. 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:40.040 YEAHY read that pound for pound. In terms of the difficulty, 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.280 that might have been the most difficult catch anyone made 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.280 on the field that day, and it came at a 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.880 pivotal time for Green Bay trying to mount and forget 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.760 themselves in a position for hail Mary. They got back 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.840 to the line of scrimmage, Jordan gets hurt on the 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.560 next play. Everybody forgets about. It's not talked about. It's 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.840 kind of lost within the box score. Jayden reed just 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.200 catch radius in addition to just what he does when 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.800 he gets the ball in the open field. Kids got it, man, Yeah, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.679 he's a lot there for the Green Bit Packers to 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:05.960 work with. 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:07.440 Yeah, it's gonna be fun to watch. 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.119 We do need to discuss the defensive side of the 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.679 ball here, and we'll do that after some sponsor business. 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:16.439 Serius XMNFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.359 the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need. Twenty 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.040 four to seven, three sixty five and net cousin subs. 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.480 We have something for everyone like our Wisconsin cheese curds, 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.240 mac and cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, all paired 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.040 with your favorite sub or sub and a bowl cousin subs. 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:36.720 Fifty years fifty plus years of better Defensively for the Packers, 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.160 it was not the debut of Jeff Haflee and his 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.399 defense as the new defensive coordinator. Was not the debut 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:49.600 that anybody was hoping for. Thirty four points by the Eagles. 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.919 It started out tremendously with the Xavier McKinney interception, a 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.879 great early moment for a brand new Green Bay Packer, 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:02.679 Then the fumble recovery on the Eagle's second possession, and 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.080 then jay r Alexander had an interception later in the 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.560 game for the three takeaways. Now the Eagles are a 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.160 talented offense. You know, this is the team that's been 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.720 to the Super Bowl. They are a perennial playoff contender. 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:18.159 Jalen Hurts is a really really difficult quarterback to handle 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:22.840 that receiver combination AJ Brown DeVante Smith, and then you 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:25.600 throw Saquon Barkley into the backfield. We talked about him 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:30.000 all of last week. And that offensive line certainly didn't 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.920 look like without Jason Kelcey at center, that it had 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.200 even skipped a beat. That looked like a pretty darn 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:38.040 good unit. That that gave the Packers some trouble. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:39.960 So all that. 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:44.080 Being said, getting a few days away from the game 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.880 and trying to digest it, and yes, the mistackles were 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.639 frustrating to watch. I know the field conditions had something 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.960 to do with that, and that cut both ways, et cetera, 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.240 et cetera. Getting away from the game a little bit, 0:18:56.280 --> 0:19:00.439 the two things that bothered me the most of the 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:04.960 defensive performance were the big touchdown to AJ Brown coming 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.680 out of the gate at halftime. I believe it was 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:12.040 the second or third play of the second half. The 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:16.400 Packers had done a decent job of keeping the explosive plays, 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:18.680 you know, at least in check a little bit during 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.199 the first half, but then boom, they hit you for 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.520 that big one. It goes all the way for a touchdown, 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.640 sort of answered the seventy yard er that Jaden Reid 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.119 had had in the second quarter for Green Bay. And 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.040